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September 12, 2011

Greenmail: "Green" Companies Hotbed For Graft and Insider-Dealing
— Ace

It's all about the green, and by green, I mean sweet, sweet government nobody's-paying-attention money.

Three more examples (and more at the link):

Al Gore acolyte Cathy Zoi was Obama's assistant secretary for energy efficiency and renewable energy while her husband was an executive at a company that received direct subsidies from the Obama administration and profited from the Cash-for-Caulkers bill Zoi's division implemented. Zoi has since left DOE to run a clean-tech hedge fund owned in large part by Democratic mega-donor George Soros.
A group of Democratic operatives have formed an investment company called U.S. Renewable Energy Group, or US-REG, which seems to exist for the sake of buying green-tech companies, and then helping them get subsidies. In at least one case, US-REG appeared to be a U.S. beard for a Chinese company seeking U.S. dollars to make wind turbines in China.
The Department of Energy's inspector general has repeatedly found that a loan program created by the 2005 energy bill and expanded by Obama's stimulus falls short on transparency and accountability.

Does no one in the Democratic Party get this? If I create a government subsidy for ghost hunting technology, I will create dozens of ghost-hunting-tech firms within days, as everyone gets aboard the gravy train.

This is not a good thing. Ghosts do not exist, and this money will soon be lost.

Posted by: Ace at 01:49 PM | Comments (159)
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1 I have revolutionary ghost-hunting technology, BTW.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at September 12, 2011 01:50 PM (ehEyA)

2 Anytime the government supports businesses whose plan is to sell $2 products for $1 there is going to be a problem. The business plan is a farce; why wouldn't everyone involved just suck it dry for as long as possible?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative)) at September 12, 2011 01:51 PM (LH6ir)

3 Hey ace, you might want to correct your previous post. A lot of commenters were saying that Rush did mention Bachmann very early on.

Posted by: buzzion at September 12, 2011 01:51 PM (GULKT)

4 I exist.

Posted by: Casper the Subsidy Ghost at September 12, 2011 01:51 PM (PEwFJ)

5 We'd have more ghosts if the CIA would stop killing them.

Posted by: Dr Spank at September 12, 2011 01:52 PM (fj/P0)

6 Ghosts do not exist, and this money will soon be lost.

The deuce you say?

Posted by: Al Capone's Vault at September 12, 2011 01:52 PM (ndlFj)

7 Greenmail: "Green" Companies Hotbed For Graft and Insider-Dealing

Look, Pal, work your own corner.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at September 12, 2011 01:53 PM (O6q63)

8 I get $10 everytime I say Boo.

Posted by: Ghost at September 12, 2011 01:53 PM (PEwFJ)

9 I also have a grant proposal to study why unicorns don't seem to be shitting skittles. It's called the Multidisciplinary Study for the Alleviation of Unicorn Constipation and it will cost $112 million dollars. The check should be made out to me.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at September 12, 2011 01:54 PM (ehEyA)

10 If there are no ghosts, who is watching me fap?

Posted by: garrett at September 12, 2011 01:54 PM (GmeQp)

11 BTW, is steevy getting a subsidy for mentioning that Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure?

Posted by: fluffy at September 12, 2011 01:54 PM (O6q63)

12 Exactly, Ace.

As the Europeans found out, carbon-trading exchanges are also huge targets for fraud by organized crime.

The top cops in Europe say carbon-trading has fallen prey to an organized crime scheme that has robbed the continent of $7.4 billion Â— a massive fraud that lawmakers and energy experts say should send a "red flag" to the U.S., where the House approved cap-and-trade legislation over the summer amid stiff opposition.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 12, 2011 01:55 PM (c0A3e)

13 But, but, but.....Gaia is dying! Sob!

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2011 01:55 PM (LGL3n)

14 Hey ace, you might want to correct your previous post. A lot of commenters were saying that Rush did mention Bachmann very early on.

Worse than that. Rush talks about Bachmann in the video Ace linked where he says Rush doesn't mention her. That's sloppy. Almost MSM grade sloppy.

Posted by: Heorot at September 12, 2011 01:56 PM (Nq/UF)

If there are no ghosts, who is watching me fap?

How do you know someone is watching? Do you hear applause when you climax?

Posted by: fluffy at September 12, 2011 01:56 PM (O6q63)

16 10 If there are no ghosts, who is watching me fap?

Your pets and/or demons.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 12, 2011 01:56 PM (c0A3e)

17 That's liberal economics for you...they'll piss away $100 in tax payer's money to get $1 of kickback...it's all profit as far as they're concerned.

Posted by: CanaDave 'You can have my Gibson when you pry it out of my cold dead fingers' at September 12, 2011 01:56 PM (T3vxL)

18 Put your hand in some pottery mud then grab demi moore's butt. It pays.

Posted by: Ghost at September 12, 2011 01:57 PM (PEwFJ)

19 If there are no ghosts, who is watching me fap? curious.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 12, 2011 01:57 PM (vzFJV)

20 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 12, 2011 01:57 PM (8y9MW)

21 Oh go screw yourself!!

Posted by: Slimer at September 12, 2011 01:58 PM (KeWDI)

22 Does no one in the Democratic Party get this?

Of course they get it .. in the form of subsidies and grants.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at September 12, 2011 01:58 PM (e8kgV)

Feature, not a bug. In a real market economy, some of the result is determined by forces other than the Democratic Party. Here in the fake economy, people are 100% dependent upon Democratc largess. And the campaign contributions increase proportionally.

Unions? Fuck, that's small potatoes!

Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 12, 2011 01:58 PM (I2LwF)

24 Ace: "Ghosts do not exist, and this money will soon be lost."

You say "lost." I say "found!" And found money is the best kind.

Posted by: Wampum for Watermelons at September 12, 2011 01:58 PM (r4t7/)

Looks like everyone else had the same idea I had.

So... you guys are pretty smart.

Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 12, 2011 01:58 PM (I2LwF)

26 This green movement has had an organized crime feel since the beginning. Eco Terrorist thugs, Eco paid lawyers paying off Gov. Officials, no show jobs all of the trappings of a criminal enterprise are represented. All that's missing is a Rico charge.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 12, 2011 01:59 PM (ZDUD4)

27 If Democrats "got this" they wouldn't be Democrats.

Posted by: dlc2 at September 12, 2011 01:59 PM (hnh2F)

28 Too right, Ace.

Just looking at all the references to "green" this and "green" that in the STSAA (Save The SCOAMFOTUS' Ass Act -- also known as his new "Jobs" bill) makes me want to see the Repubs grilled on it tonight.

Mmmmmm. Grill.

Posted by: K~Bob, who says, High-Speed Rail!!! at September 12, 2011 01:59 PM (ydjiB)

29 is this the halloween thread? I love halloween.

Posted by: joey biden at September 12, 2011 01:59 PM (PEwFJ)

30 Since when is Ace into ghost hunting? I thought he was focused on developing a technology to efficiently waste Hobos.

Posted by: Kansas Gman at September 12, 2011 01:59 PM (u4a/I)

31 ...Ghosts do not exist.

Well, there goes half the dem voting base.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at September 12, 2011 01:59 PM (p+mzQ)

32 Let's say this twinkie represents the level of graft and corruption at your average company...

Posted by: Dr. Spengler at September 12, 2011 01:59 PM (31mml)

33 Does no one in the Democratic Party get this? If I create a government subsidy for ghost hunting technology, I will create dozens of ghost-hunting-tech firms within days, as everyone gets aboard the gravy train.

I'm not sure I see the problem here.

Posted by: Dr. Peter Venkman at September 12, 2011 02:00 PM (HwE/1)

Do you hear applause when you climax?

Always. That doesn't happen to you guys?

Posted by: garrett at September 12, 2011 02:00 PM (GmeQp)

35 It would be nice if this green technology nonsense could be a point of discussion at one of the 12,452 GOP debates. Unfortunately, I just don't see it happening...

Posted by: joejm65 at September 12, 2011 02:00 PM (UZuc4)

36 What's wrong with a partisan kick-back hedge extortion fund for progressive magical thinking when there's nobody to call them on it? Would you feel better if they call it a social justice fund?

Posted by: Schlock House Press Secretary at September 12, 2011 02:00 PM (FabC8)

37 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at September 12, 2011 02:00 PM (fyOgS)

38 34, I hear an old comedians rim shot.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 12, 2011 02:01 PM (ZDUD4)

39 Suckers of Cock.

Posted by: toby928™ at September 12, 2011 02:01 PM (GTbGH)

40 The corn ethanol association came right out and said that if the mandate (for using ethanol in gas) is repealed, they are out of business.

That's a hell of a business model too. Only via a mandated purchase of their product can they survive. Mandated purchase -- now where have I heard that term before?

Plus we have a big tariff on Brazilian ethanol to keep the ole competition down.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 12, 2011 02:01 PM (ENKCw)

41 Green is the new kickback.

Posted by: huerfano at September 12, 2011 02:01 PM (kD+se)

Why CORRUPTOCRATS want to raise you taxes - again.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 12, 2011 02:01 PM (0fzsA)

43 Let's say this twinkie represents the level of graft and corruption at your average company... Now, tell him about the Twinkie.

Posted by: Winston Zedmore at September 12, 2011 02:02 PM (l9zgN)

44 Next thing you'll tell me is that the EPA gives grants to groups that sue them and even encourages suits by creating a "citizen's guide" that explains how to sue them.

Posted by: Dr Spank at September 12, 2011 02:02 PM (fj/P0)

45 Fat SCoaMF Bob Beckel says Americans wont have any power if we don't catch up with the world on green energy.He's right but not for the reason he gives.

Posted by: steevy at September 12, 2011 02:02 PM (fyOgS)

Ace, Ace, you don't understand these things. The difference between ghost hunting and green energy is the same as the difference between Mighty Mouse and Superman. Mighty Mouse is a cartoon and therefore imaginary, while Superman is a real guy.

With all due respect, you have to leave these matters to the green energy professionals, the people who are actually making money hand over fist from government subsidies. What's your net worth? I rest my case.

Man. My Divinity School training is really getting a workout these days.

Posted by: Al Gore at September 12, 2011 02:02 PM (w41GQ)

47 Kratos (Ghost of Sparta): "As the Europeans found out, carbon-trading exchanges are also huge targets for fraud by organized crime."

The irony. Organized crime the target of even more organized crime.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 12, 2011 02:02 PM (r4t7/)

48 One thing worse than crony capitalism. Crony socialism, which leads to tyranny.

Posted by: Countrysquire at September 12, 2011 02:03 PM (neP+b)

49 Since when is Ace into ghost hunting? I thought he was focused on developing a technology to efficiently waste Hobos.

Ghost production.

I think I'll see what's involved in getting my own eco startup: MagicBeans Inc.

Posted by: toby928™ at September 12, 2011 02:04 PM (GTbGH)

50 One thing worse than crony capitalism. Crony socialism, which leads to tyranny.

Wanna buy a Chevy Volt?

Posted by: Gub'mint Motors at September 12, 2011 02:04 PM (ehEyA)

51 11 No.I do it out of love...or hate,yes,hate.

Posted by: steevy at September 12, 2011 02:04 PM (fyOgS)

This is not a good thing. Ghosts do not exist, and this money will soon be lost.

Next he will be beating up on bigfoot again.

Posted by: robtr at September 12, 2011 02:04 PM (MtwBb)

53 Great. It empowers a panel for appropriations for Infrastructure. The panel consists of seven presidential (SCOAMFOTUS) appointees, who get to decide where the infrastructure in Democrat strongholds need money.

Let's save time, and commission those great plumbers in New York who made the 9-11 memorial waterfalls work, to build us a giant toilet to flush the SCOAMF out of office.

Now that's infrastructure.

Posted by: K~Bob, who says, High-Speed Rail!!! at September 12, 2011 02:04 PM (ydjiB)

54 **Ghosts do not exist, and this money will soon be lost.** why are you anti-science!!!!1 Actually, I want to start accusing libs of being anti-math. Jesus, where's this money coming from?

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 12, 2011 02:04 PM (QxSug)

55 OT: since Italy is turning to China for $$, maybe we should just buy Italy. Italian chicks are hot. And it's fun to ride scooters.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 12, 2011 02:05 PM (OhYCU)

56 This is what Perry needs to hit on tonight when asked about global whatever the hell they're saying this seeking.

Posted by: lauren at September 12, 2011 02:05 PM (Hf41M)

Man. My Divinity School training is really getting a workout these days.

Posted by: Al Gore at September 12, 2011 06:02 PM

Ponder this, Al. You're going to hell for perpetuating a lie and a fraud on the world.

Posted by: huerfano at September 12, 2011 02:05 PM (kD+se)

58
10 If there are no ghosts, who is watching me fap?
Do you live under a rock?

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at September 12, 2011 02:05 PM (p+mzQ)

59 Ghosts are more real than green jobs.

Posted by: steevy at September 12, 2011 02:05 PM (fyOgS)

60 Why do some people fart far often than others? This fundamental inequity in stinking up the environment must be addressed by effective government regulation.

Posted by: A Concerned Libtard at September 12, 2011 02:06 PM (ehEyA)

61 At least in my day we wasted money on hookers and blow. Hookers and blow make the world go round. This green BS just makes people rich who shop at Whole Foods. Ever get a cashier at Whole Foods do the horizontal mambo? Hell, no....

Posted by: Zombie Tip O'Neil at September 12, 2011 02:07 PM (afrI6)

62 The same fake economy has been created by the security industry to satisfy the War on Drugs, War on Terror, War on the Consitution (opps, did I say that?).

Posted by: pawn at September 12, 2011 02:07 PM (iMsF6)

63 57 OT: since Italy is turning to China for $$, maybe we should just buy Italy. Italian chicks are hot. And it's fun to ride scooters.

And it's fun to ride Eye-talian chicks

Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 12, 2011 02:08 PM (afrI6)

64 And we would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling .... Wait, we are getting away with it.

Suckers!

Posted by: Eco Mobsters at September 12, 2011 02:08 PM (GTbGH)

65 The only ghost technology that works is sharks with lasers powered by electric eels. Fortunately, I just started the Sharks With Electric Eel Technology (SWEET) company with govt funds.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 12, 2011 02:08 PM (PEwFJ)

66 I'm not reading any more of it. I can't take it. It's up to you'se Morons.

I got dinner to make and drinks to drink and that has made all the difference.

(No poets were harmed in creating this comment, which is unfortunate.)

Posted by: K~Bob, who says, "This SCOAMF goes to eleven." at September 12, 2011 02:10 PM (ydjiB)

67 If I create a government subsidy for ghost hunting technology, I will create dozens of ghost-hunting-tech firms within days, as everyone gets aboard the gravy train.

This is not a good thing. Ghosts do not exist, and this money will soon be lost boost the economy to record highs.

FIFY

Posted by: Paul Krugman at September 12, 2011 02:10 PM (2jQGY)

68 Oh Hell, that money was gone as soon as the ink was dry on the Green Jobs bill.

Posted by: no good deed at September 12, 2011 02:10 PM (mjR67)

69 You're going to hell for perpetuating a lie and a fraud on the world.

Revelation 21:8 states unambiguously: "...all liars..." will go to hell.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 12, 2011 02:11 PM (8y9MW)

70 (No poets were harmed in creating this comment, which is unfortunate.)

The long sobs of autumn's violins wound my heart with a monotonous languor

Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 12, 2011 02:11 PM (afrI6)

71 Don't you get it Ace?

Phase 1: Gov't spends WWII level GDP on ghost subsidies because ghosts don't exist

Phase 2: ...

Phase 3: Profit

Posted by: Ghost of Krugman's Nobel Prize at September 12, 2011 02:12 PM (uAjYN)

72 I think it's sweet that some people still think this is all an innocent mistake and that these folk are "magnets to corruption." Seriously, the corruption came first, it's not just a feature and not a bug, it's THE feature. There's literally no reason for a carbon market otherwise. No one forms them outside of bureaucrat/mafia collusion because they don't do anything but siphon money to lawyers, bureaucrats and criminals (BIRM).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 12, 2011 02:12 PM (bxiXv)

73 12 Who would of thought that trading an invisible gas would lead to fraud??

Posted by: steevy at September 12, 2011 02:12 PM (fyOgS)

74
We need Government Grant Moneys to investigate the Vast Ghost Fap Watching Conspiracy!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 12, 2011 02:13 PM (wPbwV)

75 Did Boehner pass the TAX JOBS bill yet!!! Come on people!

Posted by: Jimmah at September 12, 2011 02:13 PM (F13r2)

76 and the Sky is Blue, also. So there's that..........

Posted by: Group Capt Lionel Mandrake at September 12, 2011 02:14 PM (UqKQV)

77 Revelation 21:8 states unambiguously: "...all liars..." will go to hell.

Damn, they always forget about us...

Posted by: The cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice mag at September 12, 2011 02:14 PM (afrI6)

78 Who ya' gonna call?

Posted by: Ray Parker Jr. at September 12, 2011 02:14 PM (mjR67)

79 >>This is what Perry needs to hit on tonight when asked about global whatever the hell they're saying this seeking. Oh I don't think so. Which state has the most wind power and wind power mandates from the state, costs which are only now being passed on to consumers? It's big and right next to Mexico.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2011 02:15 PM (TMB3S)

80 80 Who ya' gonna call?

Anyone see Perry?

Posted by: Phineas at September 12, 2011 02:15 PM (afrI6)

When I go to Vegas, if I tell my wife "let me be clear, the hookers are already paid for", am I off the hook?

Posted by: yinzer at September 12, 2011 02:15 PM (LJ9nk)

82 Hey, I actually believe in ghosts. Never had an experience myself, but have had friends tell me convincing stories. By the way, did anyone else catch that 9-11 survivor ghost story show on Bio over the weekend? The fireman's story was incredibly touching.

Posted by: Serious Cat at September 12, 2011 02:15 PM (PZMn3)

83 I want to punch T. Boone Pickens in the face every time I see one of those damn turbines being carted down Hwy 105.

Posted by: no good deed at September 12, 2011 02:17 PM (mjR67)

When I go to Vegas, if I tell my wife "let me be clear, the hookers are already paid for", am I off the hook?

Yea, go with that...

Posted by: William Jefferson Clinton at September 12, 2011 02:17 PM (afrI6)

Ghosts do not exist, and this money will soon be lost.

You can't be certain that ghosts don't exist. And if ghosts don't exist and we pass the Ghost Tech Bill, we lose some money. But if ghosts do exist and we don't pass this bill, the consequences could be catastrophic.

That's why we have to pass the Ghost Hunting thing. For the children.

The ghost children.

Posted by: FireHorse at September 12, 2011 02:19 PM (F5OMl)

86 When will Oblamer realize he's wrong? Can it happen? Stop fucking spending so much goddamned fucking money that we don't have.

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 12, 2011 02:20 PM (QxSug)

87 Hey, I actually believe in ghosts. Never had an experience myself, but have had friends tell me convincing stories.

refrigerium interim

Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 12, 2011 02:20 PM (afrI6)

88 81 Texas does everything big.Even mistakes.

Posted by: steevy at September 12, 2011 02:21 PM (fyOgS)

89 Screw the ghosts! Let them get their own free money. The nation's primary concern is our alien preparedness system. You're crazy if you don't prepare for the little green men first and most.

Posted by: Paul Krugman, Village Idiot Emeritus at September 12, 2011 02:21 PM (r4t7/)

90 I denounce all of you as being racist. Green people are people of color too.

Posted by: College Professors Everywhere at September 12, 2011 02:23 PM (VxqUc)

91 91 Screw the ghosts! Let them get their own free money. The nation's primary concern is our alien preparedness system. You're crazy if you don't prepare for the little green men first and most.

Of course, you're forgetting the alien ghosts!

Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 12, 2011 02:23 PM (afrI6)

92 Green hedge fund?

Needs a serious hosing of Weed-B-Gone.

Posted by: Dang at September 12, 2011 02:24 PM (TXKVh)

Green people are people of color too.

Don't call me colored, muthafucker!

Posted by: Sprout at September 12, 2011 02:24 PM (GmeQp)

Of course, you're forgetting the alien ghosts!

Alien ghosts are actually made out of carbon dioxide, you know.

Posted by: FireHorse at September 12, 2011 02:24 PM (F5OMl)

95 "If I create a government subsidy for ghost hunting technology, I will create dozens of ghost-hunting-tech firms within days, as everyone gets aboard the gravy train."

Why do you hate science?

Posted by: fb at September 12, 2011 02:25 PM (JVEmw)

96 No green jobs.No jobs for ghosts.African Americans hurt the most.

Posted by: Maya Angelou at September 12, 2011 02:25 PM (fyOgS)

Later all.

I'm going to go see the Reverend Horton Heat and Nashville Pussy.

Have a fun evening.

Posted by: garrett at September 12, 2011 02:25 PM (GmeQp)

98 I've read about this scheme more than once-

1. Politician wins elective office, close relatives open "green energy" company that consists of little more than a post office box.

2. ????

3. Close relative suddenly enjoying millions of dollars in revenue and a six figure salary via government subsidies which are spent on subcontractors, lobbyists and campaign donations.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 12, 2011 02:25 PM (SY2Kh)

Why are there not people on the way to jail for this. This administration - and the preceding Democratic Congress that preceded it under Pelosi-Reid - will go down as orchestrating the greatest raid on the American taxpayer's treasury in history.

These bastard Democrats put the fucking Visgoths and Vandals to shame. They were pikers compared to these modern day bastards.

Posted by: LGoPs at September 12, 2011 02:25 PM (lHn6+)

100 If ghosts don't exist, what the hell am I doing in this refrigerator?

Posted by: Gozer at September 12, 2011 02:25 PM (6TB1Z)

101 Being libertarianish and a cynic I am still constantly amazed how immoral government behaves when entrusted with morals. The more government gets involved in "causes" the more it abandons its basic responsibilities.

Posted by: Shiggz at September 12, 2011 02:26 PM (59Uva)

102 102 If ghosts don't exist, what the hell am I doing in this refrigerator?

I thought they sent Gozer back to another dimension?

Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 12, 2011 02:27 PM (afrI6)

103 There is no Easter bunny, there is no tooth fairy, and there is no queen of England.

Posted by: Patrick at September 12, 2011 02:28 PM (Mfc9p)

104 Ace, instead spending your valuable time lifting Tepid Air 'news', perhaps you could correct your lie about me on the previous thread. re: Michelle Bachmann

Sincerely,
Rush

Posted by: Rush Limbaugh at September 12, 2011 02:29 PM (EL+OC)

105 106 There is no Easter bunny, there is no tooth fairy, and there is no queen of England.

And I'd be watching you, like a dingo watches a human baby!

Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 12, 2011 02:29 PM (afrI6)

106 Posted by: The cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice mag at September 12, 2011 06:14 PM (afrI6)

Only because I was responding to a specific post.

I was dealing with sarcastic 3rd & 4th graders on Sunday morning. They were rather shocked to find out the Bible specifically states that liars will go to hell. Though, in a failure of their parents, they didn't know that "Thou Shalt Not Lie" wasn't actually one of the 10 Commandments.

Oh. It's that time.
Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 12, 2011 02:30 PM (8y9MW)

107 JackStraw: "It's big and right next to Mexico."

A really big breadbox? Al Gore's gaping maw? Alaska?

Posted by: Peggy West (Democrats For Boycotting AZ) at September 12, 2011 02:31 PM (r4t7/)

108 Lying about sex is okay though,right?

Posted by: Bill Clinton at September 12, 2011 02:31 PM (fyOgS)

109 107 Ace, instead spending your valuable time lifting Tepid Air 'news', perhaps you could correct your lie about me on the previous thread. re: Michelle Bachmann

Sincerely,
Rush
Posted by: Rush Limbaugh

If you're Rush Limbaugh, I'm the Queen of England

Posted by: Elizabeth Regina at September 12, 2011 02:31 PM (afrI6)

110 There's literally no reason for a carbon market otherwise.

Ken Lay invented the concept of carbon trading, and Goldman Sachs picked it up after he got perp walked. The whole thing was shady from the get-go.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 12, 2011 02:33 PM (WXhxA)

111 We had this ghost in the house where we used to live. Always saying funny shit like, "who left this light on?" and "who forgot to flush in here?" Used to put my mom's underwear in the freezer and stuff. One time we came home and found all the cats dressed up in GI Joe clothes. Turned out it was a retarded kid who lived a couple of trailers over. Used to wander into peoples homes. We stared calling him "Ghost" because he was really pale and smelled like ozone. Ozone and Grape PopTarts. Anyway, we had this ghost/retarded guy and it was pretty cool.

Posted by: Dang at September 12, 2011 02:34 PM (TXKVh)

112 Ace, the Democrat party knows exactly what it's doing.

It's always been the party of Tammany Hall.

It's the ideology that's held it together since the early 19th century -- graft and corruption.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 12, 2011 02:34 PM (T0NGe)

113 I was dealing with sarcastic 3rd & 4th graders on Sunday morning. They were rather shocked to find out the Bible specifically states that liars will go to hell. Though, in a failure of their parents, they didn't know that "Thou Shalt Not Lie" wasn't actually one of the 10 Commandments.

Yep, Bearing false witness is... not lying. Also, Rev 21 was addressing those who do not accept Jesus as Savior.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 12, 2011 02:34 PM (afrI6)

114 Stein on Levin's show right now. Gird your loins.

Posted by: Countrysquire at September 12, 2011 02:35 PM (neP+b)

115 Spending on green schemes is like the Medieveal practice of buying indulgences... except indulgences are a better investment.

Posted by: theCork at September 12, 2011 02:35 PM (ia9oR)

116 "

Don't call me colored, muthafucker!

Posted by: Sprout at September 12, 2011 06:24 PM (GmeQp) "

oh how I love this place LOL

Posted by: nora at September 12, 2011 02:36 PM (VxqUc)

117 This is not a good thing. Ghosts do not exist, and this money will soon be lost

How do you know that? until the ghosts are found? You just haven't funded the ghosthunt enough.

Posted by: Douglas at September 12, 2011 02:36 PM (YKOnu)

118

"Ghosts do not exist"

Please show me your computer models proving this statement! I have nearly captured dozens of encounters with ghosts on my show!

Posted by: Zak Bagans at September 12, 2011 02:37 PM (xy9wk)

119 Cheney on with Cavuto.He doesn't look too well.God bless him.

Posted by: steevy at September 12, 2011 02:37 PM (fyOgS)

120 There's literally no reason for a carbon market otherwise.

I get all my carbon online now. Free shipping. The carbon market by us closed. It was run by foreigners.

Posted by: Dang at September 12, 2011 02:38 PM (TXKVh)

121 Yep, Bearing false witness is... not lying. Also, Rev 21 was addressing those who do not accept Jesus as Savior.

Bearing false witness is lying, not all lying is bearing false witness. Squres and rectangles, my friend, squares and rectangles.

Also, context is less important when you're already dealing with sarcasm. At that point, all you're trying to do is prove to them that being sarcastic to the teacher is a bad idea.

I also throw dry-erase markers at them (softly) to get their attention/shut them up.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 12, 2011 02:38 PM (8y9MW)

122 Green is good, especially when you can hump Lenny the Lizard.

Kermie!

Posted by: Miss Piggy at September 12, 2011 02:38 PM (afrI6)

123 Why are there not people on the way to jail for this. Posted by: LGoPs at September 12, 2011 06:25 PM (lHn6+) Because the people who decide what people go to jail or not are the people committing this fraud (roughly speaking). Next question?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 12, 2011 02:39 PM (bxiXv)

124

"Ghosts do not exist"

Ixnay on the onay-ostsghay. We've got a good racket going!

Posted by: The Father, The Son and No One Else, apparently at September 12, 2011 02:39 PM (xy9wk)

125 But libs would argue that we can't know ghosts don't exist until the government spends money to prove it.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at September 12, 2011 02:40 PM (C2//T)

126

These bastard Democrats put the fucking Visgoths and Vandals to shame. They were pikers compared to these modern day bastards.

Posted by: LGoPs at September 12, 2011 06:25 PM (lHn6+)

Not to mention that the Visigoths only sacked Rome when the emperor basically screwed them over, and even then they were pretty polite about it. The Vandals under Gaiseric were nasty, though.

Posted by: Grey Fox at September 12, 2011 02:40 PM (nEMLy)

127 Bearing false witness is lying, not all lying is bearing false witness. Squres and rectangles, my friend, squares and rectangles.

Oops, you are right!

Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 12, 2011 02:40 PM (afrI6)

128 Mmm, shaved ham.

Posted by: Kermit at September 12, 2011 02:41 PM (TXKVh)

129 You all are just hatin' on Obama's subsidies because he's black.

Posted by: Casper the Hollywood Ghost at September 12, 2011 02:42 PM (Y+DPZ)

130

@10: "If there are no ghosts, who is watching me fap?"

I've seen you masturbate....and....you're good.

Posted by: Christopher Walken at September 12, 2011 02:42 PM (xy9wk)

131 Kermie!

Posted by: Miss Piggy at September 12, 2011 06:38 PM (afrI6)

I'm truly sorry you found out in a public forum. Let's spend time together, kiss and make up, and maybe we can do the horizontal bop.

Sure, come on over. I'm storing up a bop just for you!

Posted by: Miss Piggy at September 12, 2011 02:42 PM (afrI6)

132 I even brought the spread.

Posted by: Miss Piggy at September 12, 2011 02:43 PM (TXKVh)

133 The only thing whiter than ghosts that was subsidized and favored by SCOAMF was MSNBC when it was under GE

Posted by: kbdabear at September 12, 2011 02:43 PM (Y+DPZ)

134 Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 12, 2011 06:40 PM (afrI6)

Yeah... I'll never forget the time my dad was teaching a class where I was sitting in the back with one of my brothers. He was explaining the "pharisees, saddusees, and teachers of the law," and pointed straight back at us and said, "There are two prime examples."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 12, 2011 02:43 PM (8y9MW)

135 Bearing false witness is lying, not all lying is bearing false witness. Squres and rectangles, my friend, squares and rectangles.

Is bearing falsies a sin?

Posted by: Lady Gaga at September 12, 2011 02:44 PM (Y+DPZ)

136 This thread is about to snap.

Posted by: Dang at September 12, 2011 02:45 PM (TXKVh)

137 his is how you colonists treat an icon. Well sir, screw you.

^{Posted by: Elton John at September 12, 2011 06:29 PM (Lt/Za)}

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYbTqAmVB88

Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 12, 2011 02:48 PM (HwE/1)

138 Wait, so the gig now is "green energy?" Yeah, that whole home mortgage scene is pretty stale anyway.

Posted by: Franklin Raines at September 12, 2011 02:49 PM (Fw2Gg)

139 Ponder this, Al. You're going to hell for perpetuating a lie and a fraud on the world.

Posted by: huerfano at September 12, 2011 06:05 PM (kD+se)

BULLSHIT. BULLSHIT. BULLSHIT.

I am a humble and godly man.

Posted by: Al Gore at September 12, 2011 02:49 PM (w41GQ)

140 When you need this green stuff totally effed up, I am available. Not cheap though!

Posted by: Jamie Gorelick at September 12, 2011 02:50 PM (Fw2Gg)

141 One time we came home and found all the cats dressed up in GI Joe clothes.

Did they smell like pee 'cause I love the smell of cat pee in the morning. Actually, morning, noon and night. It smells like victory.
Posted by: Lieutenant Colonel Kilgore Kurious

Kind of a cross between cat pee and Deviled HamÂ™. You'd like it.

Posted by: Dang at September 12, 2011 02:50 PM (TXKVh)

142 Gorelick, eh? Is that Swedish?

Posted by: Al Gore at September 12, 2011 02:52 PM (TXKVh)

143 Well what do you think was meant by "green" jobs? As Solyndra demonstrates, it was all about the benjamins from the get-go. And the phrase green jobs was just a feel-good catch-phrase to get the pot-smoking tree-hugging hippies on the left and other brainless Obama-bots to line up behind the cause.

Look at all the green flying out the taxpayer's pockets to left-supporting lobbyists, hedge funds, fixers, campaign supporters, and now bankruptcy attorneys.

As its turns out, all those shovel ready jobs? Yep, burying the American dream for your children.

Posted by: Flounder at September 12, 2011 02:53 PM (Kkt/i)

144 Ghosts do not exist, and this money will soon be lost. I sell dead people.

Posted by: Haley Joel Osment for Solyndra™ at September 12, 2011 02:54 PM (AZGON)

145 I get all my carbon online now. Free shipping. The carbon market by us closed. It was run by foreigners.

I buy my carbon at the grocery store. They had a sale 6 bucks a bag. I bought two. It cooked up some great kabobs.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at September 12, 2011 02:56 PM (0q2P7)

146 At least belief in Ghosts doesn't keep me from being able to turn on my lights and air conditioner when I want. Ecofraud is far more injurious to the believer.

Posted by: theCork at September 12, 2011 02:57 PM (ia9oR)

147 Ace missed the most obvious point ...
All of this "Green" Fraud, Graft and Insider-Dealing is caused by Global Warming

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at September 12, 2011 02:59 PM (e8kgV)

148 Texas does everything big.Even mistakes.

Posted by: steevy at September 12, 2011 06:21 PM (fyOgS)

If anyone thinks that TX is one big happy conservative state, they need to visit Austin or San Antonio. The bad breath of leftism blows strong in those cities.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 12, 2011 03:00 PM (zK4pP)

149 This is not a good thing. Ghosts do not exist, and this money will soon be lost.

Government drone response: Not my money so who cares?

Posted by: Deathknyte at September 12, 2011 03:07 PM (G9bUt)

150 Texas does everything big.Even mistakes.

Posted by: steevy at September 12, 2011 06:21 PM (fyOgS)

If anyone thinks that TX is one big happy conservative state, they need to visit Austin or San Antonio. The bad breath of leftism blows strong in those cities.

I've been to both cities and thought the air was remarkably refreshing.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Who's From California and Doesn't Want to Hear Texas Whine About a "Liberal" Problem at September 12, 2011 03:08 PM (0q2P7)

151 Ace...this is the "establishment" at work. The left is more blatant because the media lets them get away with it, but the entrenched GOP class plays the "you-scratch-mine and -I'll-."..game too.

Mr. Mittens is establishment.

As governor, he proposed a regional cap and trade scam...where he admitted it would destroy industries and cause jobs losses...but not to worry because the Green Unicorn would be there to save them.

...and gee....wouldn't there be some great opportunities to make $$$$$$ off arranging capital investment in these green companies

Posted by: beedubya at September 12, 2011 03:09 PM (AnTyA)

152 They get it. They just want to be on the receiving side of those sweet government crony subsidies. The Democrats regard large swaths of the economy being dependent on the sufferance of the government as being a feature, not a bug. Even more so if the successful companies require juice with the government; that way they can leverage their government contacts to make more money for themselves.

Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at September 12, 2011 03:25 PM (XZWie)

153 Does no one in the Democratic Party get this?

OF COURSE THEY DO. IT'S A MONEY-LAUNDERING SCAM.

Posted by: Osama, sleepin' with the fishes. at September 12, 2011 03:36 PM (MMC8r)

154 Thank you, Robot Devil.

the sinner,

Patrick

Posted by: Patrick at September 12, 2011 03:59 PM (Mfc9p)

155 One thing I want to know. How many of these companies, or "investors" involved with these companies, are giving money to Obama. Yes, we all know that politicians receive donations and "help" their donors out with business. Corrupt, but yeah, it happens. No, what I want to know is how many of these non-viable green companies/investors donating, meaning, despite no viable technology, no valid product price points, basically sure losers, are giving money to Obama and are they then getting their money back. Shorter version, is Obama basically getting campaign donations indirectly from taxpayer money.

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