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February 02, 2011

Health Care Reform Repeal Vote UPDATE: Vote Fails 47-51
— DrewM

Above the post update:

The vote on the McConnell amendment (which was technically a vote to waive a budget point of order and required 60 votes to pass, see below) fails . All 47-51. Republicans voted for repeal, straight party line vote for Democrats as well.

No word yet on if this will be an ongoing effort by Republicans or a one off. Part of it will come down to whether or not Harry Reid continues to allow an open amendment process or not.

Original Post:
They are voting now on one of two 1099 repeal proposals, then they are on to Mitch McConnell's complete repeal amendment.

I suggested yesterday that the amendment would be ruled not germane to the underlying FAA re-authorization bill. I've subsequently been told by someone who works in the Senate that there is no requirement amendments be germane prior to a cloture vote.

What the Democrats will do is raise a budgetary point of order against it saying repeal will increase the deficit. In order to waive the point of order, repeal supporters will have to muster 60 votes. That's not going to happen but the point will be made.

Meanwhile, John McCain calls bull on the CBO process that claims repealing ObamaCare would increase the deficit.

"So what I'm saying is, garbage in, garbage out," McCain said on the Senate floor.
McCain cited two examples of how the CBO's estimate is not properly taking into account the true costs of the healthcare law. First, he noted that the repeated increases in reimbursement levels to Medicare physicians, and the failure to repeatedly let cuts to those payments happen, are estimated to cost $208 billion over 10 years. "Nowhere is that put into the equation," McCain said.
He also criticized the Community Living Assistance Services and Support (CLASS) Act, a long-term care insurance program that was part of the law. While the program allows for employees to contribute to it, many Republicans believe it will have to be funded by the government at some point, and that this assumption is not being taken into account by CBO.

Will any Democrats flip and vote for repeal? Ben Nelson of "Cornhusker Kickback" and double digit deficit in his reelection bid fame was a candidate to flip but he saysreform not repeal.

Update:

First 1099 repeal effort, the Levin Amendment, failed.

Second 1099 repeal amendment passes 81-17. Funny but a lot of those 81 votes came from Democratic Senators who voted to include it last year. Guess you have to pass the damn thing to find out what you need to repeal less than a year later.

Now voting on the budget point of order against the McConnell full repeal amendment.

Posted by: DrewM at 01:41 PM | Comments (45)
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1 Ben Nelson to the white, courtesy Phone.

Posted by: Loudspeaker at February 02, 2011 01:43 PM (3lx5O)

2 Ben Nelson. White, courtesy Phone.

Posted by: Loudspeaker at February 02, 2011 01:43 PM (3lx5O)

3 The lipless one is doing the right thing. Draw the line and see who steps across.

Posted by: toby928™: Free nickless the still-banned (99.174.64.43) at February 02, 2011 01:45 PM (GTbGH)

4 IF they actually repeal it then Manchin should take it out back and shoot it.

Posted by: Rocks at February 02, 2011 01:46 PM (RuL8J)

5 So the Dem slogan then is

Obamacare, because sometimes hell no!!! really means yes.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 02, 2011 01:46 PM (bgcml)

6 This utterly bugfucking insane 1099 requirement must be repealed.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 02, 2011 01:47 PM (AZGON)

7 At any 7-11 this bill would be called counterfeit.

Posted by: tcn at February 02, 2011 01:47 PM (DjPot)

8 Of course Obamacare cuts the deficit - you have to spend money to save money! Now, if you'll excuse me I have to go waste, err, invest some taxpayer money.

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 02, 2011 01:47 PM (bgcml)

9 Just listened to Rand Paul floor speech, excellent just excellent.

Posted by: lions at February 02, 2011 01:48 PM (lW97b)

Bart Stupak- please report to the Returns Department. Your Paperwork has been revoked. Bart Stupak to Returns Department.

also - Mary Landrieu we have your flip-flops at the Kickbacks Counter.

That is all.

Posted by: Loudspeaker at February 02, 2011 01:49 PM (3lx5O)

11 At any 7-11 this bill would be called counterfeit.

Posted by: tcn at February 02, 2011 05:47 PM (DjPot)

Sorry, I don't speak Indian.

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 02, 2011 01:49 PM (bgcml)

12 I'm kind of glad Moderates-In-Name-Only such as Nelson are willing to go down with this ship. He's tying Obamacare around his neck like an anchor and walking out over the plank as we speak. One wrong move . . .

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at February 02, 2011 01:50 PM (kM3n4)

13 DjPot? That's some serious hashtag.

Posted by: tcn at February 02, 2011 01:50 PM (DjPot)

14 Votes for sale appetizing young votes for sale votes thats fresh and still unspoiled votes thats only slightly soiled votes for sale

Posted by: Ben Nelson at February 02, 2011 01:50 PM (AZGON)

15 DjPot? That's some serious hashtag. In Clownifornia, that gets you an automatic license to sell medical marijuana.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 02, 2011 01:51 PM (AZGON)

16 I know I'm tilting at windmills but after the amendment process is done don't we want our senators voting against the underlying FAA bill?

Posted by: John Galt at February 02, 2011 01:51 PM (NLWij)

17 I hope the SCOTUS just shoves this up the Democrats' asses so bad. I just looked on the Hotair thread where they were talking about the severability clause, and lo and behold the law troll was there saying that the mandate is constitutional because it's necessary and proper to regulate the market. I hate trolls. Especially bad ones. Btw, how do circuit courts decide which Judges on the court get to panel each court case? Or do they all just decide together? The 11th circuit's chief is a W appointee I believe.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at February 02, 2011 01:52 PM (c5RQr)

18 This will certainly make his "friends across the aisle" very cross with him. Shall we begin to place bets upon how he kisses and makes up with them/fucks us over? There is that new gun-ban legislation that will be introduced soon...

Posted by: Herr Blücher at February 02, 2011 01:53 PM (5DwhA)

19 Will Ben Nelson hear the Call of History?

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 02, 2011 01:54 PM (c0A3e)

Posted by: George Orwell at February 02, 2011 05:51 PM (AZGON)

Your hash is still one of the top 5 here.

It's like a Super Villain or a Planet...or an Albanian.

Posted by: garrett at February 02, 2011 01:54 PM (3lx5O)

21 Will Ben Nelson hear the Call of History? Does it include a cashier's check to his campaign fund?

Posted by: George Orwell at February 02, 2011 01:55 PM (AZGON)

Will Ben Nelson hear the Call of History?

...or will he use his Moral Imagination?

Tune in Next Week, for another exciting edition of 'Suicidal Incumbents'.

Posted by: Disembodied Voice at February 02, 2011 01:57 PM (3lx5O)

23 Your hash is ... like a Super Villain or a Planet...or an Albanian. You have no idea of the vast powers at my disposal when I invoke my name. I can even cause room lights to come on at the touch of my finger.

Posted by: AZGON, Lord of Darkness and Bombast at February 02, 2011 01:58 PM (AZGON)

24 "Btw, how do circuit courts decide which Judges on the court get to panel each court case?" I would assume by vacation schedule and rotation.

Posted by: moi at February 02, 2011 02:00 PM (Ez4Ql)

25 I can even cause room lights to come on at the touch of my finger.

Posted by: AZGON, Lord of Darkness and Bombast at February 02, 2011 05:58 PM (AZGON)

IOL! Instant on Lighting!

Posted by: tcn at February 02, 2011 02:00 PM (DjPot)

It's like a Super Villain or a Planet...or an Albanian.

Posted by: garrett at February 02, 2011 05:54 PM (3lx5O)

Hey.

Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 02, 2011 02:01 PM (bxiXv)

27 Nelson is so toast, that he might as well stick with his vote. He has a better chance of making money chairing blue ribbon commissions than getting re-elected as Senator.

I'm willing to bet that November 2012 will be the last time he sets foot in Nebraska.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 02, 2011 02:01 PM (T0NGe)

28 Hey! My hash is: easy for cute lady...

Posted by: moi at February 02, 2011 02:01 PM (Ez4Ql)

29 Nelson is so toast, that he might as well stick with his vote. He has a better chance of making money chairing blue ribbon commissions than getting re-elected as Senator. Hey, if the pay is right, I'm there like a monkey on a cupcake.

Posted by: Ben Nelson at February 02, 2011 02:03 PM (AZGON)

30 I'd like to repeal Hillary's legs and replace Bill's junk with mine!

Posted by: Harry Reid at February 02, 2011 02:05 PM (zgZzy)

-Yes, I ordered a Pizza about 30 minutes ago. Sure, I'll hold.

-Yes, like I was telling the other...Nelson. Ben Nelson. Yes, I'll hold.

-Uhm,, yes - I'm still here. Boy, you guy's must be awful busy...Like I was saying - we ordered a Large Pie with pepperoni and we got one with what appears to be dog shit on it.

-Can I hold? Yes.

-Ben...er, Senator Nelson. Yes. Are you the Manager?

-You were just fired? That's terrible.

- Salary, you say? Full bennefits, too... Oh...I see. Well yes, the premiums will be going up a bit...but it's my Pizza order that I was calling about.

-Your wife was fired, too?You know what. We'll just keep this one.

Posted by: Ben Nelson on the Phone w/the Pizza Guy at February 02, 2011 02:05 PM (3lx5O)

Repeal won't happen.

Plan B: Starve the beast

Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 02, 2011 02:05 PM (+/p72)

33 Senate Scraps 1099 Requirement in Health Care Law
Posted Wednesday, February 02

In a 81-17 vote, the Senate voted to roll back one of the most universally despised pieces of the 2010 Affordable Care Act -- a new requirement for businesses to fill out 1099 forms for every expenditure over $600.

There were two amendments written to do this on the floor. One, from Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., would have rolled back the requirement while introducing some new ways to get revenue -- which was the point of the requirement in the first place. It only got 44 votes. The amendment that sailed through simply killed the measure, and came from Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., who is up for re-election in 2012. Very few of the Democrats up that year opposed her bill.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 02, 2011 02:06 PM (L8y7Q)

34 Which way do I vote to keep my cushy seat?

Posted by: Ben Nelson at February 02, 2011 02:08 PM (zgZzy)

35 So now only the businesses who have already done their taxes are boned on 1099s. Niiiice.

Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 02, 2011 02:08 PM (bxiXv)

36 It doesn't really matter what they do with the 1099 rule. No one is planning on complying with it anyway.

Posted by: Small Business Owner at February 02, 2011 02:10 PM (sfNbl)

37 fffff the cornhusker and his kickback.

Posted by: Call Me Ishmael at February 02, 2011 02:13 PM (YZ0iV)

38 Taht 1099 comment is damning. The democrats were so in a hurry to pass anything, they had no idea it's contents or real world consequences.

Posted by: joeindc44 at February 02, 2011 02:14 PM (QxSug)

In a 81-17 vote, the Senate voted to roll back one of the most universally despised pieces of the 2010 Affordable Care Act -- a new requirement for businesses to fill out 1099 forms for every expenditure over $600.

Somebody needs to fire those new accountants.

Posted by: H&R Block at February 02, 2011 02:17 PM (3lx5O)

40 McCaskill just signed her own ticket out of the Senate in 2012.

Posted by: Girl from Missouri at February 02, 2011 02:21 PM (SOCzs)

41 Speaking of how toxic Romney -- oops sorry -- Obamacare is in red/purple states:

BATON ROUGE -- Attorney General "Buddy" Caldwell has switched his party affiliation from Democrat to Republican.

Caldwell announced the party switch Wednesday. He says he feels more comfortable with what the GOP represents nationally and locally, citing the federal health overhaul bill as an example.

Caldwell, who is up for re-election this year, becomes the latest in a long line of conservative Louisiana Democrats to leave the party. His departure will leave U.S. Sen. Mary Landrieu as the lone Democratic statewide elected official.

As recently as 2004, Democrats held both Louisiana's U.S. Senate seats, as well as six of the seven statewide constitutional offices.

First elected in 2007, Caldwell was the only Democrat to join a federal suit challenging the constitutionality of the new federal health-care law, which was overturned earlier this week by a judge in Florida. A former district attorney in the 6th Judicial District, which encompasses East Carroll, Madison and Tensas parishes, Caldwell has been leading the state's legal efforts in connection with the BP oil spill.

His move follows recent switches by state Sens. John Alario of Westwego and Fred Mills of Parks, and state Reps. Simone Champagne of Jeanerette, Noble Ellington of Winnsboro and Walker Hines of New Orleans.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 02, 2011 02:21 PM (L8y7Q)

42 Taht 1099 comment is damning. The democrats were so in a hurry to pass anything, they had no idea it's contents or real world consequences.

Posted by: joeindc44 at February 02, 2011 06:14 PM (QxSug)

If passing idiotic laws really damned the Democrats, they would have all been in hell for about fifty years now.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 02, 2011 02:43 PM (z1N6a)

43 If you would like to see the 17 hard core communists that voted to keep the 1099 requirement....

http://tinyurl.com/6953mxr

Posted by: John Galt at February 02, 2011 02:44 PM (NLWij)

44 #43 Seems like our beloved Menedez (D-NJ) figured out he's toast. Otherwise, I have no idea how to explain his vote.

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Posted by: katy at February 07, 2011 10:43 AM (va41F)

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