June 09, 2011
— Ace Update: This really isn't too much beyond what we know, but a Texas source just told Rich Lowry "He's in."
Word From The Inner Orbit: "Nothing has changed."
Well, okay, Bryan, if you're going to be King Pill of Buzzkill Mountain.
But of course they'd say that. You announce on the day you announce. You don't tip this stuff off, on the record, before that.
...
Allah's speculation was sound.
Ben Domenech, who's frequently had Perry on as a guest on his Coffee and Markets show, and ergo has people he routinely reaches by phone, now says:
Call to Texas. "If you're calling about what I think you're calling about... I can't talk about it yet." Ha!
All Right... Domenech tells me this was a call to a Texas consultant.
I sort of think maybe he's, erm, underselling this.
I stand by my posting of La Grange.
And No... I didn't post it because it's about a whorehouse. I didn't even know that. It just sounds like music you hear right before there's a Texas-sized barfight.
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Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 09, 2011 12:20 PM (agD4m)
Posted by: Madison Hippie Dipshit at June 09, 2011 12:21 PM (O0/OX)
Posted by: joejm65 at June 09, 2011 12:21 PM (BDB5n)
Posted by: IE Con at June 09, 2011 12:22 PM (/COcn)
Posted by: Newt Gingrich at June 09, 2011 12:22 PM (VXBR1)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 12:23 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Liberal Douchebag at June 09, 2011 12:23 PM (VidfH)
Interesting music vid choice. LaGrange. Whores. Unacceptable. Perry. I get it.
Score one more for Team Ogabe.
Posted by: But who am I, to question? at June 09, 2011 12:23 PM (ucq49)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 12:23 PM (uwljR)
Texas is one of the few states with any kind of economic growth, so I'll be glad to pay more attention if he's in.
Posted by: Downscaled Upscale at June 09, 2011 04:21 PM (IhHdM)
I haven't paid that close attention to it since I wasn't really into politics until recently, but how much of his "success" was continuing policies of predecessors (GWB)?
Posted by: © Sponge at June 09, 2011 12:24 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Rich Lowry's Combover at June 09, 2011 12:24 PM (/COcn)
Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2011 12:24 PM (Di3Im)
Posted by: Rocks at June 09, 2011 04:24 PM (Q1lie)
Not a given, but if Perry gets in, Palin certainly will factor that in heavily to her decision.
Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2011 12:25 PM (Di3Im)
Posted by: Not a stinkin' Moby, oh no at June 09, 2011 12:25 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: © Sponge at June 09, 2011 12:25 PM (UK9cE)
Though I see less signs of him getting in then Palin. From last thread: "Perry and her are tight and I think they are doing a bait and switch. Perry will endorse Palin when she runs. There was a report saying so about a week ago. Perry called a special legislative session in Texas and will have his hands full."
Just my take though. Opinions?
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 12:26 PM (uwljR)
OT - but CNN was just talking about Alabama's new toughest in the nation anti-illegal immigration bill.
Very nice bill. Tough. Good for Alabama.
Or as the media will soon be referring to them - Talabama.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 09, 2011 12:26 PM (GKQDR)
Posted by: Bob Saget was not at his computer when those sext messages were sent to underage girls at June 09, 2011 12:26 PM (F/4zf)
Posted by: Damiano at June 09, 2011 12:27 PM (3nrx7)
Posted by: The Washington Post at June 09, 2011 12:27 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Vic at June 09, 2011 12:27 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 09, 2011 12:27 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: Jack Bauer's Dad at June 09, 2011 12:27 PM (YulS3)
Posted by: Ben at June 09, 2011 12:28 PM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Liberal Douchebag at June 09, 2011 12:28 PM (VidfH)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 09, 2011 12:28 PM (AZGON)
Con: he doesn't have a nice set of boobies
Posted by: Soothsayer
Mitigating factor- his hair is FAB-O-LUS.
Posted by: J.Edwards, in the America where good hair still means something at June 09, 2011 12:28 PM (XyjRQ)
Wow, yet another milquetoast lukewarm Rino Republican nobody gives a shit about. How very *snore*
This is becoming a veritable parade of the mediocre. Give the fuckers name tags so we can tell them apart.
I call this the Standard Generic Centrist Republican casting call.
Posted by: maddogg at June 09, 2011 12:28 PM (OlN4e)
speaking of P's...
Gov Pataki was on Laura Ingraham's fill in this morning. Sounds like he's almost running. Sounded good. Hit all the right notes on fiscal conservatism.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 09, 2011 12:29 PM (G/zuv)
Perry != Obama
which can be rewritten as
Perry >> Obama
So Perry = President would be OK unless he Tweets his junk to Huma Weiner.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 09, 2011 12:29 PM (1yViP)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 09, 2011 12:29 PM (i6RpT)
Perry has had his over-reach issues in the past (Trans-Texas Corridor, Guardasil), but he's fairly pro-business (he's been accused of Cronyism, etc., but never very successfully- it's kind of like when people claimed cronyism when Halliburton was selected as the company to do most of the energy contracting in Iraq- who else was going to do it?), and he's softer than I'd like on illegal immigration- but far better than most. He doesn't cotton too much to the "path to citizenship" but he's much more concerned with the criminal nature of all-too-many illegal aliens (drugs, human-trafficking, etc.) than he is with the border itself.
On the good side, he's never really raised taxes (fees are another thing, but he's even kept that down), and he takes rebukes (like the ones he got over TTC and Guardasil) pretty well and knows when to back down. He's been very good about sending such resources as believes are within his power to the border (Texas Rangers, State Troopers, and Texas Guard) and trying to secure at least our side of that particular war-zone.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 12:29 PM (8y9MW)
There was a story, a while back, that said that only one or the other would run, and that Perry was waiting for a decision from Palin. Don't know how accurate the story was -- and don't know if Perry was tired of waiting -- but it's why I think Palin's not running.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at June 09, 2011 12:29 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: Madison Hippie Dipshit at June 09, 2011 04:21 PM (O0/OX)
Let no Special Olympics go unmolested.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 12:29 PM (T0NGe)
Sharp Dressed Man, or Cheap Sunglasses would have been better.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 12:30 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 09, 2011 04:27 PM (TMB3S)
The MBM is still not over Bush, so I'm sure Perry wouldn't mind Bush not endorsing him, to be honest.
Bush is still an albatross for R's, unfortunately. Perry was his Lt. Gov for a spell, so he'll have to shake that on his own.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 09, 2011 12:30 PM (UK9cE)
All the more reason to like him.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 09, 2011 12:31 PM (qaU+h)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at June 09, 2011 12:31 PM (VidfH)
Posted by: Perry campaign theme at June 09, 2011 12:31 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Methos at June 09, 2011 12:32 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: mike at June 09, 2011 12:32 PM (cTfh7)
Oh c'mon- Kinky Friedman's initials are NOT R.P.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 09, 2011 12:33 PM (XyjRQ)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at June 09, 2011 04:29 PM (bjRNS)
I dont think so. Perry is in a special session of the legislativr branch and he will need some time to get ready if he wants to run. I just dont see Palin not running after the bus tour, movie, early primary stops, and staff hires. Either she or Perry will run. Not both. Perry is behind in organizational preparations compared to palin.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 12:33 PM (uwljR)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 09, 2011 12:34 PM (GTbGH)
Well, he was a Democrat for a while, there. Ran Al Gore's first campaign in Texas.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at June 09, 2011 12:34 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 09, 2011 12:34 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 09, 2011 12:34 PM (cCtS2)
Perry != Obama
which can be rewritten as
Perry >> Obama
Obama is a global minimum so, yes, that is a tautology.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 12:34 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: maddogg at June 09, 2011 04:28 PM (OlN4e)
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means
Perry seems very "Moderate" because he's from Texas. Our liberals are to the Right of most Massachusetts conservatives.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 12:35 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: The Schwalbe: © at June 09, 2011 12:35 PM (UU0OF)
Posted by: moki at June 09, 2011 12:35 PM (dZmFh)
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 09, 2011 04:33 PM (XyjRQ)
Neither was "one tough grandma"....Carol Keaton Streyhorn, however you spell it.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 09, 2011 12:35 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at June 09, 2011 04:34 PM (bjRNS)
Well, krep. That ain't good.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 09, 2011 12:35 PM (XyjRQ)
TX has a thrity day special session so look for a Perry announcement after that. Fourth of July weekend, anyone?
As to Ron Paul, I could see him running third party against Perry and Obama. Yes, I think there is that much bad blood. The only thing that might hold Ron Paul back is that that would damage his son Rand's career.
And a Perry vs. Obama race will give Alex Jones a heart attack, he hates em both.
Posted by: Now it gets fun at June 09, 2011 12:35 PM (3oPjL)
Are there specific names we should look for? That's what I'm asking. The machine is a bit vague to be useful. Karen Hughes?
Posted by: toby928™ at June 09, 2011 12:36 PM (GTbGH)
Which is what I was getting at, on the assumption that Perry was running. If Perry's not running, then we can still talk about Palin.
But neither have announced-announced yet, so we'll see.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at June 09, 2011 12:36 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: t-bird at June 09, 2011 12:36 PM (FcR7P)
Yeah, but he got better...
And remember that Democrat in Texas is not quite the same thing (or, wasn't 10 years ago) as it is in, say, Pennsylvania.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 12:37 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Damiano at June 09, 2011 12:37 PM (3nrx7)
I didn't post it because it's about a whorehouse. I didn't even know that.
B.S. Even I knew that.
Posted by: Rich Lowry's Combover at June 09, 2011 12:37 PM (/COcn)
Posted by: Aqualungman at June 09, 2011 12:38 PM (WvcAo)
Just so he is not like our Republican ex-Democrats in the Statehouse here. They still think they are Democrats.
Posted by: Vic at June 09, 2011 12:38 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at June 09, 2011 12:39 PM (VidfH)
Posted by: Bugler at June 09, 2011 12:39 PM (VXBR1)
Posted by: loltrain at June 09, 2011 12:39 PM (B49Do)
I know that many people here are not happy with the prospect of a Northern (or at least Northeastern) Republican winning the primary. I'm just wondering how yet another Texas governor will play nationally. Especially so soon after the last one.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at June 09, 2011 12:39 PM (YmPwQ)
He spoke as cleanly to the problems created by this administration of anyone I've yet heard. He didn't attack. He just laid out the case for the impacts of individual issues affecting the business community.
Cavuto asked about his thoughts regarding Perry running for POTUS and he said that he's a Romney fan because he's the only candidate with the business experience to pull out the economy, although he thinks Perry would be great too.
I hope they put the clip up on FNC.
Posted by: Clueless at June 09, 2011 12:39 PM (piMMO)
He didn't. I think he helped with the Clinton campaign in 92. Because, in 92 (IIRC) he was a Democrat. He switch by 95 (again, If I recall correctly). He may have, technically, been part of the Al Gore apparatus in Texas in 92, but don't mistake that for Al Gore's presidential campaign in 2000- he was a solid Republican (and GW's Lt. Governor) by that time.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 12:40 PM (8y9MW)
Oh if he does announce, hope it's then. Plan on being in DC that weekend, would LOVE to watch lefty heads assplodin' all over the dipshit district that weekend.
Please please please.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 09, 2011 12:40 PM (XyjRQ)
I didn't post it because it's about a whorehouse. I didn't even know that.
Oh, geez, man. That's the Chicken Ranch they made the musical (and movie) about.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at June 09, 2011 12:40 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: Jean at June 09, 2011 12:40 PM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at June 09, 2011 12:40 PM (+lsX1)
Then nothing will stop him. Ron doesn't give a damn about anybody else, least of all his son. And little Rand has proven to be a bit of an enabler.
And a Perry vs. Obama race will give Alex Jones a heart attack, he hates em both.
Well, that's the last checkmark for me. Sign me up for Team Perry.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 12:40 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Chaz Gibson, player at June 09, 2011 12:40 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: looking closely at June 09, 2011 12:40 PM (PwGfd)
Might.
And if so, she will endorse Perry, who will crush the rest.
He's not my ideal, but damn is he a lot better than I was expecting. Seriously tons of leadership experience with positive results. Imperfect record, but over such a long period of time I have to think he's actually pretty good.
It's basically Bush vs Obama without some of Bush's baggage. Totally winnable if Perry is our nominee.
Posted by: Dustin at June 09, 2011 12:40 PM (Q3nWV)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 09, 2011 12:40 PM (cCtS2)
Posted by: East Coast Libs at June 09, 2011 12:41 PM (FcR7P)
The first 30 seconds has "they gottalota nice girlsssaah!!!"
What exactly did you think that meant? It's a quaint little town with an unusually high 'hottie' quotient?
Posted by: © Sponge at June 09, 2011 12:41 PM (UK9cE)
My beloved grandparents, God rest their souls, would have had great difficulty and it would have been painful to do so, but they would have switched to the Republican party by now.
Posted by: Clueless at June 09, 2011 12:41 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Bob Saget was not at his computer when those sext messages were sent to underage girls at June 09, 2011 12:41 PM (F/4zf)
Posted by: mike at June 09, 2011 12:41 PM (cTfh7)
Posted by: Via Twitter at June 09, 2011 12:42 PM (nQR0p)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 04:30 PM (8y9MW)
Why not Tube Steak Boogie?
Posted by: Anthony "overused sock" Weiner at June 09, 2011 12:42 PM (NCw5u)
Posted by: Unfrozen Caveman Voter at June 09, 2011 12:42 PM (MMC8r)
@91: "Something is a little off about Perry. Combine that with him being an Aggie and a former Aggie cheerleader, and noooo, no thanks."
Great, a former college cheerleader from Texas. That worked so well 2000-2008.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at June 09, 2011 12:42 PM (xy9wk)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 04:35 PM (8y9MW)
Really, do you include Austin in that ? Texas is filling up with a lot of people who are not Texicans, and they are hurting the state.
BTW, I was born in South Texas, and went to school at Texas Tech. I go back there and it is not the same place it was 20 years ago. The fucking place has been taken over by the leftards. It used to be known as Cowboy U. But they seem to be somewhat ashamed of that legacy nowadays.
And I am conservative by Texas standards, but not when compared to those who wrote the founding document. I understand Perry is a squish on border security, that is a mighty big liability in my book.
Posted by: maddogg at June 09, 2011 12:43 PM (OlN4e)
Puhleeze! Rand has star written all over him. He could easily have been a second on a 2012 ticket but his dad wanted it more himself than for his son. AND, if he can fuck up the name a little more before Rand gets his big shot, then that doesn't seem to bother him at all.
Posted by: Clueless at June 09, 2011 12:43 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 04:30 PM (8y9MW)
Why not Tube Steak Boogie?
Posted by: Anthony "overused sock" Weiner at June 09, 2011 04:42 PMso long as it ain't "Jesus just left Chicago".
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 09, 2011 12:43 PM (XyjRQ)
(a) Pataki is probably to the left of Mitt.
(b) He makes T-Paw look positively charismantastic.
(c) He has no recognition outside of his own state, which he would surely lose.
(d) He could conceivably beat Gillibrand for Senate. (This goes for you, too, Rudy.)
(e) The only reason he'd be running is to be somebody's VP. And that somebody won't be Mitt.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 12:43 PM (T0NGe)
Perry was chairman of the 1988 Gore primary campaign in Texas.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at June 09, 2011 12:44 PM (bjRNS)
The window is Fourth of July weekend. That is when Palin will announce her intentions. I think she'll run. Perry's hands are tied with a special session of the Texas legislature right now.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 12:44 PM (uwljR)
Why not Tube Steak Boogie?
Posted by: Anthony "overused sock" Weiner at June 09, 2011 04:42 PM (NCw5u)
They said that song was about surfin......
Posted by: © Sponge at June 09, 2011 12:44 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 09, 2011 12:45 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 09, 2011 12:45 PM (TMB3S)
Yeah, we created a ton of jobs in Texas. Unfortunately, a lot of them were 7 dollars an hour filled by illegals. Don't believe me, just go to any fast food place in Dallas-Fort Worth and see who serves your Big Mac. Of course, a 7 dollar an hour job is better than no job, just sayin. And there are still a lot of Katrina people here down in Houston and that area. But we also gained a lot of tech jobs in la-la land (austin), and a hell of a lot of oil field workers.
Perry made a lot of noise about doing this and that about the border, and ended up not doing a damn thing. He is ultra-connected to the inside the beltway gang, although he denies it constantly, and will run as an outsider. He has perfect hair, and spouts bullshit (what candidate won't) BUT he ain't Obama. So if he is the nominee, he gets my vote. As some moron said one time, I'd vote for the Anti-Christ, if he ran against Obama. (and also, i haven't seen any pictures circulating on the Net containing pictures of Perry's u-know-what, so that's another plus.)
Posted by: mikeyslaw at June 09, 2011 12:46 PM (QMGr1)
Really? You're going to trot out TTC as something current? He dropped it 4 years ago- at the beginning of his last full term as Governor. He even made a statement about it (I'll see if I can find it) where he basically said, "I still think it's the right move for Texas, but it's obvious Texans don't like the idea, so I'll drop it." Which was about the only honest way he could get out of it.
If you're going to be upset about his government over-reach positions, complain about Guardasil. And then, be sure you note that the "extreme lengths" people had to go to to opt out was basically a one-page form that said, "Yes, I know the benefits, no, I still don't want my daughter to have it."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 12:46 PM (8y9MW)
"Oh, geez, man. That's the Chicken Ranch they made the musical (and movie) about."
Chicken Ranch - NV. About 1.5 hrs from Vegas. I don't personally know, just what I've heard. 
Posted by: But who am I, to question? at June 09, 2011 12:46 PM (ucq49)
Posted by: Aqualungman at June 09, 2011 12:48 PM (WvcAo)
Perry > Barry
It's a law of physics.
Posted by: toby928™ at June 09, 2011 04:24 PM (GTbGH)
A syphilitic sea cucumber > Barry
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 09, 2011 12:48 PM (8rHXV)
Posted by: Mitt Romney hardest hit at June 09, 2011 12:48 PM (P33XN)
Posted by: maddogg at June 09, 2011 12:49 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: t-bird at June 09, 2011 12:49 PM (FcR7P)
I don't dislike the guy.. and if he can beat Obozo - I'm in. but for some reason I'm uneasy. but then - I felt that way about T-paw at one point.
meh.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at June 09, 2011 12:49 PM (0fzsA)
I don't know which one came first, but the one that ZZTop sang about was in La Grange, TX. Was protected by the local sheriff, until it was busted by Marvin Zimler.
Anyone who lived in Houston at the time can probably still hear his voice in their heads: "Mar-vin Zimler! Eye! Witness! News!"
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at June 09, 2011 12:49 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: Northeastern Libtard at June 09, 2011 12:49 PM (YmPwQ)
FWIW I think Perrys in. I can't say much more, but he's been reaching out to some possible big donors here in Texas.
Posted by: Jollyroger at June 09, 2011 12:49 PM (NCw5u)
Mandatory sonagram before an abortion, NOT RAISING TAXES, vetoing the amazon / sales tax stuff...
Perry's not perfect - I think he boned the Vaccine stuff, and the TTC stuff was misguided, but overall Perry's successes / positives greatly outweigh the negatives.
Rick Perry would be leaps and bounds better than Obama... or Mittens Romney.
Posted by: Naqamel at June 09, 2011 12:50 PM (UMwMT)
http://youtu.be/-G84P5K-W1c
Posted by: Caiwyn at June 09, 2011 12:50 PM (ttktr)
A syphilitic sea cucumber > Barry
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 09, 2011 04:48 PM (8rHXV)
You leave my mighty staff out of this!
Posted by: Anthony Weiner at June 09, 2011 12:50 PM (c45xH)
That worked so well 2000-2008.
You mean the time I wish we could go back to? It worked out just fine for me.
Posted by: eleven at June 09, 2011 12:50 PM (7DB+a)
Posted by: davidt at June 09, 2011 12:51 PM (GfhFm)
Again, this election will have zero to do with the GOP and everything to do with a) Obama now having a record which cannot be spun, and b) a media exposed for cheerleading for the progressives to the extent that the swing voters (read ignorant middle) felt mislead in '08. It's Referendum Plus.
Obama will not win. The MBM will do double-overtime to re-elect their guy, but the die has been cast. Obama will not be retooling policy; he'll just rearrange personnel. And his policies are The Suck.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 09, 2011 12:51 PM (1yViP)
Ace has got his humor on in the twitter stream...
Is there a direct link to that on the homepage? I am not a twit, but I love watching him and iowahawk goof off.
Posted by: Lynyrd Skynyrd at June 09, 2011 12:51 PM (QcjoT)
And I disagree a little about Perry's hands being full because of the special session he called, we have a huge majority in the state legislature, and they are doing whatever they want to do, since the rules in special session are different than in the regular session. we passed a voter ident law, a loser pays (in lawsuits) law, and 75 mph speed limits already.
Posted by: mikeyslaw at June 09, 2011 12:52 PM (QMGr1)
>> He's also a former Democrat, but that's not unusual in Texas, or the South generally.
Yeah, think Phil Gramm, Ralph Hall, et.al.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 09, 2011 12:52 PM (WvXvd)
I include Austin the way people from Michigan include Detroit: that is, as little as possible. Yes, Texas has moved closer to the center, but we're still one of the most conservative states in the Union, so I'm not terribly concerned at the moment. And most of the rest of us have been rolling our eyes at TexasTech for at least the last 15 years.
I understand Perry is a squish on border security, that is a mighty big liability in my book.
He's not... exactly. It's hard to explain his position to those grafted to either end of the argument, but I'll give it a go.
He's not terribly concerned about illegals who really just want to cut grass or clean houses. That's not really his concern, and they're not hurting the Texas Economy enough to really measure (see also: +250,000 jobs in the last few years). He is, however, very serious about border security generally, because he sees it as a National Defense/Criminal issue: he wants to control the border to stop the drug/gun/slave trafficking that's going on.
Now, I don't completely agree with him on that position- I do think any illegal alien is a blow to national sovereignty: BUT I don't accuse him of being soft on the border- just soft on illegals, if you get the fine distinction there.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 12:52 PM (8y9MW)
I have, thankfully, avoided watching more than about five minutes of that movie, between all the times I've flipped away from it on TV.
I figure Burt Reynolds in a musical has to be as bad as Clint Eastwood and Lee Marvin.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at June 09, 2011 12:52 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 09, 2011 04:34 PM (GTbGH)
I think vic is a former democrat. For God's sake, he lived in the Bay Area.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 09, 2011 12:52 PM (LH6ir)
"I understand Perry is a squish on border security, that is a mighty big liability in my book."
Guess you missed the two times he tried to meet w/ Obama, and deliver letters to him, protesting the lack of Fed support on the borders.
Posted by: But who am I, to question? at June 09, 2011 12:52 PM (ucq49)
Posted by: Bob Saget was not at his computer when those sext messages were sent to underage girls at June 09, 2011 12:52 PM (F/4zf)
I was living there for 25yrs and Marvin was a hoot every night and the whorehouse in La Grange came 1st.
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 09, 2011 12:52 PM (cCtS2)
As somebody commented above, this just got interesting.
Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at June 09, 2011 12:52 PM (5d6vv)
Rick Perry with Sarah Palin's endorsement wins the GOP nomination for President of the United States.
Palin w Perry's endorsement does not.
Perry is going to run. People from outside Texas are emailing, mailing, and calling for him to run. Never met a Texan lacking a big ego.
He dusts Obama in the general election.
Only question is who is the running mate? Paul Ryan comes to mind. Sarah Palin offered Secretary of Energy. John Bolton offered Secretary of State. Romney Secretary of the Treasury. Rudy Guliani becomes the Attorney General of the United States.
I pray this happens..
Posted by: Dick_Nixon at June 09, 2011 12:53 PM (kaOJx)
Posted by: BuckIV at June 09, 2011 12:53 PM (AtjNL)
I like it. We need a better field, as long as they dont attack each other, just attack the Obama Administration.
Posted by: KOW at June 09, 2011 12:54 PM (TbM8N)
Posted by: Naqamel at June 09, 2011 04:50 PM (UMwMT)
I won't argue with you on that fact, for sure.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 09, 2011 12:54 PM (UK9cE)
I have, thankfully, avoided watching more than about five minutes of that movie, between all the times I've flipped away from it on TV.
Not the movie, the play. The movie was much better.
Posted by: maddogg at June 09, 2011 12:55 PM (OlN4e)
A syphilitic sea cucumber > Barry
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 09, 2011 04:48 PM (8rHXV)
My dingleberries > Barry
My navel lint > Barry
My fomunda cheese > Barry
Sense a trend here??
Posted by: Hedgehog at June 09, 2011 12:55 PM (Rn2kl)
"And I am conservative by Texas standards..."
Posted by: maddogg at June 09, 2011 04:43 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 09, 2011 12:55 PM (LH6ir)
Their physical undifferentiability looks like it could be a Nazi rally concern. You know what the grid-of-primary-candidates'-faces cover on every magazine in every waiting room in the world is gonna look like? The arrangement of the faces there? You see it?
Waiters are voters. D voters. Who need motivation.
Posted by: oblig. at June 09, 2011 12:55 PM (xvZW9)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 04:52 PM (8y9MW)
I understand. Well said.
Posted by: maddogg at June 09, 2011 12:55 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: NAME REDACTED at June 09, 2011 12:56 PM (vhtNy)
Posted by: KOW at June 09, 2011 04:54 PM (TbM8N)
Yeah, that's our job.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 09, 2011 12:56 PM (LH6ir)
He has to fend off such things every single time he runs for office (twice, now, on TTC, once on Guardasil, and since I don't even remember when on Oil). So far, he's succeeded. Whether such things would gain legs in a national election is a different question, of course, but he has a good strategy for such things judging from his success with it so far.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 12:56 PM (8y9MW)
Only question is who is the running mate? Paul Ryan comes to mind. Sarah Palin offered Secretary of Energy. John Bolton offered Secretary of State. Romney Secretary of the Treasury. Rudy Guliani becomes the Attorney General of the United States.
I pray this happens..
Posted by: Dick_Nixon at June 09, 2011 04:53 PM (kaOJx)
'Scuse me while I go tweet a picture...
Posted by: Hedgehog at June 09, 2011 12:56 PM (Rn2kl)
Bush is still an albatross for R's, unfortunately. Perry was his Lt. Gov for a spell, so he'll have to shake that on his own.
Bush endorsed Kay Bailey Hutchinson over incumbent Perry in the last governor's race.
Bush and Perry do not like each other.
Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at June 09, 2011 12:57 PM (5d6vv)
Yep, La Grange, Texas was the place for the sportin' girls, and Mama Lucinda's for Lone Star Beer and tacos. Ole!
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at June 09, 2011 12:57 PM (cwFVA)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 09, 2011 04:55 PM (LH6ir)
I'm not from New Joisy, so that would be understood.
Posted by: maddogg at June 09, 2011 12:58 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Rich Lowry's Combover at June 09, 2011 12:58 PM (/COcn)
"Don't believe me, just go to any fast food place in Dallas-Fort Worth and see who serves your Big Mac. "
Those jobs have been filled by illegals for over a decade. At least in Dallas, where the white flight to the suburbs started over 20 yrs ago. In response to over 20 yrs of Dim control of Dallas. The burbs are thriving. The city, not so much. Unexpectedly!
Posted by: But who am I, to question? at June 09, 2011 12:59 PM (ucq49)
Bush and Perry do not like each other.
Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at June 09, 2011 04:57 PM (5d6vv)
I didn't remember Bush endorsing anyone. I know Cheney backed Kay, for some reason. She was worthless, but didn't remember Bush jumping on that wagon.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 09, 2011 12:59 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: polynikes-EX Romney supporter at June 09, 2011 01:00 PM (1QAha)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 09, 2011 01:01 PM (cCtS2)
We're used to it. We can take it.
Though I would be very interesting to see who the actual originators of this plan are. Remember, the ethnic major groups are a triangle now--even here...
Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at June 09, 2011 01:01 PM (GBXon)
I don't either, actually. I know Cheney and Rove both backed Kay Bailey, but I think GW kept his nose out of it. He really seems to want to become a more-or-less private citizen again.
And I'm convinced that Cheney did so out of "beltway loyalty" or somesuch.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 01:01 PM (8y9MW)
Thank you.
Posted by: eleven at June 09, 2011 04:59 PM (7DB+a)
But...Waiters are people too!!!!!
Posted by: © Sponge at June 09, 2011 01:01 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 09, 2011 04:54 PM (i6RpT)
I would love to watch him throw at Obama's head in the debate.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 09, 2011 01:01 PM (LH6ir)
National Review did a cover piece about Perry a few issues back. They say the Bushes detest Perry, and vice versa.
Anyone agree that a reason so many on the GOP side are jumping in is because they figure anyone can beat this incompetent sumbitch Obumbler?
Posted by: Jim Sonweed at June 09, 2011 01:02 PM (FVhEi)
Posted by: Clueless at June 09, 2011 04:41 PM (piMMO)
Most sane dems have already left the party, its a party of marxist and alinksy disciples now. JFK wouldn't recognize the party now.
Posted by: johnc_recent_EXdem at June 09, 2011 01:02 PM (ACkhT)
Posted by: polynikes-EX Romney supporter at June 09, 2011 01:02 PM (1QAha)
@146: "You mean the time I wish we could go back to? It worked out just fine for me."
Your hockey helmet and water wings are currently being shipped. We'll have the SLOW sign installed in your yard by Sunday.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at June 09, 2011 01:03 PM (xy9wk)
Their physical undifferentiability looks like it could be a Nazi rally concern. You know what the grid-of-primary-candidates'-faces cover on every magazine in every waiting room in the world is gonna look like? The arrangement of the faces there? You see it?
Waiters are voters. D voters. Who need motivation.
Posted by: oblig. at June 09, 2011 04:55 PM (xvZW9)
Hey stranger!! What planet do you hail from?
Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2011 01:03 PM (yny8c)
Posted by: Jollyroger at June 09, 2011 01:03 PM (NCw5u)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 01:03 PM (uwljR)
Paul would have to quit the House. Even if he could legally run for both offices, it would look bad, like he's hedging his bets. (This holds for Republicans, not for Democrats.)
Still, it's more than a year to the VP pick and there will be a lot of changes to the dynamics to the race until then. If Perry's polling regularly above Obama, Ryan might be willing to do it.
If you want a fun choice, how about Thad McCotter?
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 01:04 PM (T0NGe)
I don't know if he'd ever be President'n material, but Nolan Ryan is one of, maybe, three or four people in the state who could run for governor and win by running one commercial once a day in the major markets:
"I'm Nolan Ryan, and I'd kind of like to be Governor." he'd win in a landslide.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 01:04 PM (8y9MW)
I'm thinking that I will support Palin if she decides to run. She has the right ideas and that's good enough for me.
I was hoping for the fantasy West / Bolton ticket but that's obviously not going to happen.
If she doesn't run, I'm hoping the Nuge will step up. 
Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2011 01:04 PM (9GDSB)
Posted by: Lawrence of the Labia at June 09, 2011 01:04 PM (+3AeF)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 09, 2011 01:04 PM (i6RpT)
Those jobs have been filled by illegals for over a decade. At least in Dallas, where the white flight to the suburbs started over 20 yrs ago. In response to over 20 yrs of Dim control of Dallas. The burbs are thriving. The city, not so much. Unexpectedly!
Posted by: But who am I, to question? at June 09, 2011 04:59 PM (ucq49)
Not so sure about it having been 20 years. But you are sure right about Dallas. Now being entirely controlled by the ever popular John Wiley Price (heavy on the "Wiley")
Posted by: mikeyslaw at June 09, 2011 01:06 PM (QMGr1)
I would love to watch him throw at Obama's head in the debate.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 09, 2011 05:01 PM (LH6ir)
Rick Perry: Nolan Ryan
Barack Obama: Robin Ventura
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 01:06 PM (T0NGe)
about 40% of the new jobs created in 2010 in this country were created in Texas. I have business collegues in TX who have told me how very easy it is to start, maintain, grow a business there, very easy.
He's very pro-10th amendent, limited govt. In the 90's if Perry was a democrat, I can understand that, I was a dem, dems were more sane then, they were many more conservative/moderate dems then, the radical lefties were far fewer in numbers back then.
Posted by: johnc_recent_EXdem at June 09, 2011 01:07 PM (ACkhT)
Posted by: reemul at June 09, 2011 01:07 PM (5aFjz)
Posted by: Robin Ventura at June 09, 2011 01:07 PM (nQR0p)
You don't think that Nolan Ryan is presidential? Compare this to anything Obama has ever done in his entire life.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 09, 2011 01:08 PM (LH6ir)
...too bad it was the furry kind and not the one of those that smuggles illegal Messicans across the border
Posted by: beedubya at June 09, 2011 01:09 PM (AnTyA)
Could the Compost and Slimes have finally jumped teh shark?
Posted by: RushBabe at June 09, 2011 01:09 PM (Ew27I)
Posted by: eleven at June 09, 2011 01:09 PM (7DB+a)
Probably was just a coincidence though. Best to blame Bush. The press likes that.
Posted by: Lawrence of the Labia at June 09, 2011 05:04 PM (+3AeF)
Did someone mention my name?
A BLACK WHAT!?!?!
Posted by: John Wiley Price at June 09, 2011 01:09 PM (UK9cE)
Best Texas music that ain't whorehouse; Asleep at the Wheel; best album - Ride With Bob
One of the songs but live and not from the album
Posted by: Vic at June 09, 2011 01:10 PM (M9Ie6)
But, yeah, the Bush wing is not the Perry wing. The Bush family is a political dynasty, so anything threatening that is going to get some blowback from the entrenched power. Perry would be a desirable split if the intent is to more equitably distribute power rather than consolidate it to one family's desires.
Again, this is more of a swipe against the Bush power base than an endorsement of Perry. However, were Perry to run against the Floridian Bush (for example), I'd go with Perry. Nepotic dynasties have no place in this country.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 09, 2011 01:10 PM (1yViP)
"I'm Nolan Ryan, and I'd kind of like to be Governor." he'd win in a landslide.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 05:04 PM (8y9MW)
don't know his politics but him being governor would be awesome. He could just post a pic of Ventura with a tagline "Yep, I beat the shit out of him. Mess with Texas and you gonna get it too"
Posted by: The Dude at June 09, 2011 01:10 PM (Ig1Wo)
Posted by: joncelli at June 09, 2011 01:10 PM (RD7QR)
OT - but CNN was just talking about Alabama's new toughest in the nation anti-illegal immigration bill.
Very nice bill. Tough. Good for Alabama.
Or as the media will soon be referring to them - Talabama.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 09, 2011 04:26 PM (GKQDR)
Obysmal: Eric, add Alabama to that Arizona paperwork.
Posted by: RushBabe at June 09, 2011 01:10 PM (Ew27I)
Posted by: PeePeePundit at June 09, 2011 01:11 PM (+sBB4)
Posted by: Superunknown at June 09, 2011 01:11 PM (Jffpi)
I think that Nola Ryan is Legen... {wait for it}... ... dary. But I don't think he's Presidential. If nothing else, I'd like a president who can still use consonants.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 01:11 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2011 05:04 PM (9GDSB)
That whole "winning" thing is too confusing for you?
She will have a very tough time of it. Now may not be the time to base our votes on who is the ideal candidate with the best ideas, but rather who has the best shot at dethroning the JEF.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 09, 2011 01:11 PM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Robin Ventura at June 09, 2011 05:08 PM (nQR0p)
That's OK. I can't believe I was the first to refer to Weiner's junk as "Little Anthony and the Imperials" either.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 01:11 PM (T0NGe)
Not in the American League anyway. Where they play a game similar to baseball.
Posted by: toby928™ at June 09, 2011 01:12 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 09, 2011 01:13 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: t-bird at June 09, 2011 01:14 PM (FcR7P)
Global Warming Deniers have thwarted every attempt 2 ameliorate effects of Climate Change~Now there are consequences. Joplin blood is on their hands.
Why waste the time?
Posted by: © Sponge at June 09, 2011 01:14 PM (UK9cE)
Rick Perry won't have much trouble shrugging off Bush- it really is true that all of Bush's team (and possibly even GW himself, though I don't remember for sure) endorsed KBH in her run for Governor against Perry. Their disagreements aren't exactly secret.
Anyone who tries to say "George Bush's 3rd term" will get a mouthful of "Endorsed my opponent."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 01:14 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: ParisParamus at June 09, 2011 01:14 PM (QN76w)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 09, 2011 01:14 PM (y/+eD)
I like Palin, but I cannot convince the independents in my family to vote for her, they cannot stand Obama, but they cannot stand Palin more.
Not sure who I will vote for in the repub primaries, but with Palin, I feel there will be more time spent defending her than more time attacking the Messaih, who will be staunchly protected by the press. I just don't know about Palin, with only 17 months until next november, I would rather vote for a repub who has the best chance of beating Obama, I just don't see that with Palin, I see it with some family members, they cannot be swayed, and I would rather be convincing them to keep their opposition up against Obama.
If her numbers change, then that's different, I just don't see it, and to me kicking Obama out next year is much more important.
Perry is a good choice. Romney, not a fan off, but compared to a radical like Obama, all repubs are conservative. Even a potted plant is a good choice for the repub nominee.
Posted by: johnc_recent_EXdem at June 09, 2011 01:15 PM (ACkhT)
I'm kidding, but he seems like a serious man. Every interview I have ever seen has reinforced that impression.
Also...it was an excuse to watch the Ventura video again.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 09, 2011 01:15 PM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Shoey at June 09, 2011 01:16 PM (jdOk/)
I'm on it @ParisParamus
Posted by: ParisParamus at June 09, 2011 01:16 PM (QN76w)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 01:16 PM (uwljR)
Also...it was an excuse to watch the Ventura video again.
Fair.
And I really do think he could be Governor just by asking, more-or-less.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 01:16 PM (8y9MW)
"Asleep at the Wheel"
I know he's a weed dead brainer, but how 'bout a Willy song. Bloody Mary Morning should apeal to the Moron Nation.
Posted by: But who am I, to question? at June 09, 2011 01:17 PM (ucq49)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 09, 2011 05:14 PM (y/+eD)
You are one of two people I thought might hit that link.
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2011 01:17 PM (QcjoT)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 09, 2011 01:18 PM (eOXTH)
After twelve years of watching those fucks demonize a thoroughly decent man, on election night I want my TV screen filled with liberals wailing and sobbing. I want to walk the streets of Astoria and see every hipster douchebag and bitter-beer-faced middle-aged libtard white woman stumbling around like they just had a death in the family.
Well, that's what I want.
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 09, 2011 01:18 PM (agD4m)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 09, 2011 01:19 PM (y/+eD)
Willy?
Sweet's Little Willy?
Anthony, this is your song...
'Cause little Willy, Willy won't go home
But you can't push Willy round
Willy won't go, try tellin' everybody but, oh no
Little Willy, Willy won't go home
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 09, 2011 01:20 PM (G/zuv)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 09, 2011 01:20 PM (cCtS2)
She will have a very tough time of it. Now may not be the time to base our votes on who is the ideal candidate with the best ideas, but rather who has the best shot at dethroning the JEF.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 09, 2011 05:11 PM (LH6ir)
I can't go with you there. Yes, it's early and there will probably be some surprises but as it stands now, Palin is the most rock solid Conservative with a voice.
I'm tired of squishes, it's time to run a hardcore conservative and see how it plays out.
Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2011 01:21 PM (9GDSB)
I agree, but he'll have to be proactive about it -- without being insulting -- because you know the Bush III tag is coming, and it's the one thing Team Obama and the MBM (BIRM) will emphasize first. Before Palin was their Emmanuel Goldstein, there was Bush.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 09, 2011 01:21 PM (1yViP)
Posted by: Aqualungman at June 09, 2011 01:21 PM (WvcAo)
Absolutely. One of my top 3 fave bands.
I got to see Ministry, Skinny Puppy and My Life withThrill Kill Cult at the RockandRoll Church / Limelight...but I never made it to a Revco show.
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2011 01:22 PM (QcjoT)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 09, 2011 01:22 PM (DUOUR)
I want my (astonishingly liberal) brother to yell and scream about how "it's not fair."
Perry is heartily resisting calls to tap into the Texas Rainy-Day fund to pay for schools, and teachers and administrators (who get 3 months off every year, but get paid enough to support themselves for the whole year) are now busing into Austin to pressure lawmakers into taking more of that money than they already have.
I want him to have to drop those Promthean boards and go back to white-boards (or blackboards). I want him to realize that the rest of us have to produce something to a certain standard- and we don't get to use "Well so-and-so didn't do their job" as an excuse for 5+ years (like many teachers do).
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 01:22 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 09, 2011 01:22 PM (i6RpT)
Got it.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 09, 2011 05:17 PM (G/zuv)
Who is the man you're talking about? Perry? He seems less likely to run then Palin.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 01:22 PM (uwljR)
Posted by: Aquarius Loves Aries at June 09, 2011 01:23 PM (Z+JNA)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 09, 2011 01:23 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 09, 2011 05:20 PM (GTbGH)
somebody had to say it, lol
Posted by: Shoey at June 09, 2011 01:24 PM (jdOk/)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 09, 2011 01:24 PM (y/+eD)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 09, 2011 01:24 PM (TMB3S)
The Chicken Ranch was in Texas. It's the Mustang Ranch that's near Reno. I know about these things because my Twitter account was hacked.
Posted by: Anthony's Weiner at June 09, 2011 01:25 PM (q3AKy)
Posted by: #Perry Slogans at June 09, 2011 01:25 PM (QcjoT)
Perry/Romney baby!!
Posted by: Hedgehog at June 09, 2011 01:25 PM (Rn2kl)
Word. Hornbooks were good enough in my day, and the old trusty slate.
Posted by: toby928™ at June 09, 2011 01:25 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein -- Proud Resident of Brattleboro, VT at June 09, 2011 01:25 PM (48wze)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 09, 2011 05:18 PM (agD4m)
My wife had a friend who was killed in Afghanistan during Bush's terms. There was a bit of a memorial in NYC, where he was from, and his was asked to go into a private room for a moment. After just a few seconds the president of the United States walked in, alone, and spoke with them for 15 minutes. There was no publicity, no entourage, not motorcade and no press. This guy was a grunt. Not an officer, not famous, not anything other than a patriotic American who did his duty as he saw it.
That's why I have tremendous respect for George Bush.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 09, 2011 01:26 PM (LH6ir)
If Palin doesn't run and Perry does, he's got my vote. Why? Because it would be great to see someone wearing shitkicking boots in the WH. And, because our enemies would be pissing themselves, again.
Yeah, it's shallow, but I don't care.
Posted by: Steph at June 09, 2011 01:26 PM (AkdC5)
I did see Skinny Puppy & TKK when they opened up for Siouxsie.
That was one of the shows I saw...
Siouxsie had 'pneumonia' and canceled the set.
Double the WaxTrax!
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2011 01:27 PM (QcjoT)
(from Luke Russert tweet) Hillary Clinton seeking position with World Bank.
wtf?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 09, 2011 01:27 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 09, 2011 05:17 PM (G/zuv)
Has Perry declared?
Posted by: davidt at June 09, 2011 01:28 PM (GfhFm)
It is executive experience the country needs most. Texas is big, but being a governor of a Southern state is more or less a "tallest dwarf" distinction. It doesn't guarantee the competency to run a complicated, diverse modern democracy. What is worse is his focus on social issues, with most of the country far more concerned with economic issues. We don't need a year and a half of a culture war. We don't have the luxury to elect another on-the-job training president. Perry should stay in Austin a few more years and maybe try for VP in 2016.
Posted by: Aquarius Loves Aries at June 09, 2011 05:23 PM (Z+JNA)
i've never wanted to punch a fellow conservative in the face, but i'm making an exception for you.
Posted by: Shoey at June 09, 2011 01:29 PM (jdOk/)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 01:29 PM (uwljR)
(from Luke Russert tweet) Hillary Clinton seeking position with World Bank.
wtf?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 09, 2011 05:27 PM (UOM4
She wants to be free to rape too?
Posted by: © Sponge at June 09, 2011 01:29 PM (UK9cE)
I really don't know much about Perry. So far TPaw is my top choice, but I could be convinced to switch to him if he turns out to be better.
I did send a picture of my junk to his hair though.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 09, 2011 01:30 PM (WRW1S)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 05:16 PM (8y9MW)
Don't even think he would even really have to ask, his stump speech could be "I'm going to be the next governor. Got it?" and people would be okay with it
Posted by: The Dude at June 09, 2011 01:30 PM (Ig1Wo)
Perry has been elected as Governor 3 times in the state with the largest job-growth of any in the country. He was Lt. Governor (the seat with "real" power) before he was Governor, and Ag Commissioner and State Rep before that.
His "focus on social issues" extends all the way to... what? He supports a bill requiring that expectant mothers see a sonogram before they have an abortion- well, so does most of the nation. He invited all the other Governors to a "non-denominational prayer event," and he's had other prayer events before. He's a very staunch social conservative, but it's never what he runs on (always business, growth, and taxes) and never the "focus" of what he tries to get done in Austin. So I'm not really sure where you're getting that.
On the business side, he worked with Texas's largest small business association to pass a tax bill that simultaneously increased state revenues while lowering the total tax burden (including prep and accounting costs) on small businesses. When everyone else though he should turn the surplus money raised from property taxes (about 6 years ago, I think?) around and give it back to property owners (a good, principled idea- I'm not besmirching it) he was smart enough to realize that the boom economy wouldn't last and, instead, placed it in the rainy-day fund: which turns out almost to have been prescient.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 01:30 PM (8y9MW)
Yeah, I'll bet she is.
Her and Jamie Gorelick.
Do these people have any qualifications to rule over us? She went to fucking law school. That's it. That's all these people do and suddenly they're qualified for everything.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 01:30 PM (T0NGe)
To do what? Replace its travel agents? Hasn't she reset enough stuff she doesn't know anything about already?
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 09, 2011 01:30 PM (1yViP)
I got to see Ministry, Skinny Puppy and My Life withThrill Kill Cult at the RockandRoll Church / Limelight...but I never made it to a Revco show.
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2011 05:22 PM (QcjoT)
And you made a wise ass comment about my musical taste?
Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2011 01:30 PM (9GDSB)
Posted by: Aquarius Loves Aries at June 09, 2011 01:31 PM (Z+JNA)
I don't know much about Perry except for the blogosphere stuff (created jobs in Texas, etc). I do know that when I look at him, I get a sinking feeling. He looks too...something. I don't know. I hope I'm wrong. Next....
aggy?
Posted by: Zharkov at June 09, 2011 01:31 PM (GRoWk)
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 09, 2011 01:31 PM (Z05lF)
Well, if ZZ Top approves then so do I.
Seriously, could vote for Perry over the rest of the herd. Don't care about anything but Obama's defeat right now.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at June 09, 2011 01:31 PM (FnRYN)
Posted by: Aquarius Loves Aries at June 09, 2011 05:23 PM (Z+JNA)
So, you're new to the United States, are ya?
What, exactly, do you think the Democrats have been doing with their congressional control over the last 6 years (before Jan.) and owning the White House?
You should come out from under the rock more often.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 09, 2011 01:31 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 05:29 PM (uwljR)
Where the hell do you get this shit?
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 01:32 PM (T0NGe)
Palin is the most rock solid Conservative with a voice.
Agreed.
it's time to run a hardcore conservative and see how it plays out.
Even if it plays out into four more years of the JEF? No thanks. I love America too much.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 09, 2011 01:32 PM (LH6ir)
Exclusive: Clinton in talks about possible move to World Bank
/Who might primary Obama in 2012 then?
Posted by: The Human Centipede at June 09, 2011 01:32 PM (c0A3e)
The State Department has denied the report.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 09, 2011 01:32 PM (UOM48)
"Texas is not going to the Democrats anyway" - true
"And it's objectionable to most of the country," really? pics?
"particularly the Northeast, to have another guy from Bush's state"
Anyone other than a RINO OK for the NE?
Are you concerned?
Eeyore much?
Posted by: But who am I, to question? at June 09, 2011 01:33 PM (ucq49)
The State Department has denied the report.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 09, 2011 05:32 PM (UOM4
Oh My God!
That means it's true!
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 01:33 PM (T0NGe)
And you made a wise ass comment about my musical taste?
Dude.
You declared that 1984 was the best album in rock and roll history.
It clearly isn't even the best album released in 1984!?
...and get with the program. In 1987-1989 WaxTrax was pushing the envelope of Industrial Rock. The live shows were legendary events.
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2011 01:34 PM (QcjoT)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 09, 2011 01:34 PM (y/+eD)
Where the hell do you get this shit?
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 05:32 PM (T0NGe)
There was a primary poll of Texas with him included and he was like 3rd. Behind Romney and Palin. I forget the poll though, it was about a week ago.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 01:35 PM (uwljR)
Who is the man you're talking about? Perry? He seems less likely to run then Palin.
I suggest you stay far, far away from the horsetrack if you're this horrible at assessing odds.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 09, 2011 01:35 PM (WRW1S)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 09, 2011 01:35 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 09, 2011 01:35 PM (cCtS2)
Posted by: Aquarius Loves Aries at June 09, 2011 01:35 PM (Z+JNA)
So it looks like they were leaving Newt just to leave him.
Like anti-Humas.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 01:36 PM (T0NGe)
For better or worse, I think that's exactly right. Sports legend with direct ties to Houston and Dallas/Ft. Worth Metroplex? Franchise owner and businessman with aw shucksisms out the wazoo? Likeable persona with a tough as nails persona underneath? He puts celebrity candidacy to shame.
In fact I would almost expect him to be governor at some point. It really would be his for the asking.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 09, 2011 01:36 PM (1yViP)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 09, 2011 05:32 PM (LH6ir)
It's worth the risk. I'd rather have a known hardcore conservative who might lose than a squish whom we really don't know anything about win.
I'm tired of this half-assed approach. It's not working.
Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2011 01:37 PM (9GDSB)
Co-President of the West Bank with Arafat's widow?
/They did kiss after all,
. Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 09, 2011 01:37 PM (c0A3e)
almost 95 degrees right now
now it's dark and windy...thunder!
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 09, 2011 05:10 PM (G/zuv)
What did one of Weiner's balls say to the other ball?
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at June 09, 2011 01:37 PM (6yyVB)
Posted by: phreshone at June 09, 2011 01:37 PM (T3vCe)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 09, 2011 01:38 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Aquarius Loves Aries at June 09, 2011 05:35 PM (Z+JNA)
Wow....that's just flabbergasting.......really.
Green behind the ears? He's been running the 2nd (or 3rd?) largest state in the country for 3 TERMS. That carries NO weight with you...huh?
Posted by: © Sponge at June 09, 2011 01:38 PM (UK9cE)
I suggest you stay far, far away from the horsetrack if you're this horrible at assessing odds.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 09, 2011 05:35 PM (WRW1S)
What is your take then, oh great one? Seems very plausible. Dont let you PDS cloud your thinking. But keep trying to find the flavor of the month.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 01:38 PM (uwljR)
Bawooooooooooooo!1111!!!!!!
Posted by: Pooter Hound at June 09, 2011 01:38 PM (le5qc)
I remember not being happy with her set list anyways.
She canceled 2/3 shows that I was at...never there to see Siouxsie, though.
No my bag...but she was everywhere for three years!?
Jerry Garcia and Trent Reznor percentages of Canceled appearances, though.
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2011 01:39 PM (QcjoT)
Can't do it. Sorry, I can't adequately describe the stupidity of this statement.
As life-long (close enough) Massachusetts resident, I find this assertion especially insulting.
Posted by: fluffy at June 09, 2011 01:40 PM (SwkdU)
There was a primary poll of Texas with him included and he was like 3rd. Behind Romney and Palin. I forget the poll though, it was about a week ago.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 05:35 PM (uwljR)
Of course you forget the poll.
I have seen a Texas primary poll but Perry wasn't even included and it was far enough back that Huck was polling well there.
Stupid source of evidence regardless. An unannounced candidate in a poll nobody can quote...
No words for the stupid.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 01:40 PM (T0NGe)
So now the goal-post moves.
Tell me, what do you feel about Herman Cain? Is he, too, too wet behind the ears?
The thing is every candidate will have areas of strength and areas of weakness. Assessing Perry, I see this:
1) A man who has repeatedly shown that he can be elected in large-scale (albeit not national scale) elections. Indeed, this includes both primaries (his base) and general elections (his base + enough independents to win)
2) A man who has consistently fought the knee-jerk politician reaction to a) raise taxes and b) spend any surplus.
3) A man who has never flinched from his convictions- even when they were unpopular- but was wise enough to know when to concede defeat.
4) A man who has made Texas one of the (if not the single) best states in the US for economic growth- which means more jobs.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 01:40 PM (8y9MW)
Did he go to an Ivy League school? If not, he isn't qualified. Sorry.
Posted by: Mainstream Republican at June 09, 2011 01:40 PM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Aquarius Loves Aries at June 09, 2011 05:31 PM (Z+JNA)
Does stupid hurt?
Posted by: Steph at June 09, 2011 01:40 PM (AkdC5)
As well as being a sideshow attraction.
Posted by: toby928™ at June 09, 2011 01:41 PM (GTbGH)
Stupid source of evidence regardless. An unannounced candidate in a poll nobody can quote...
No words for the stupid.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 05:40 PM (T0NGe)
My bad. But the dude is meh among texans. I have con relatives there
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 01:42 PM (uwljR)
Does stupid hurt?
Posted by: Steph at June 09, 2011 05:40 PM (AkdC5)
Obviously, not, as it's so widespread.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 01:42 PM (T0NGe)
Gave birth to a herm, eh?
I can't hold that against him, as I'm not sure what I would do as a parent of a daughter. With a SIL with HPV and cervical cancer.
I hold it against him because he signed an EXECUTIVE ORDER forcing my child to get the shot for something that wasn't proven and side effects weren't all that clear.....and it only lasted a short period of time.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 09, 2011 01:42 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Aquarius Love Aries at June 09, 2011 01:42 PM (bN5ZU)
Posted by: Honey Badger at June 09, 2011 01:42 PM (GvYeG)
You declared that 1984 was the best album in rock and roll history.
It clearly isn't even the best album released in 1984!?
...and get with the program. In 1987-1989 WaxTrax was pushing the envelope of Industrial Rock. The live shows were legendary events.
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2011 05:34 PM (QcjoT)
It's not my fault that Billboard licks balls. Eddie Van Halen is the greatest guitarist in history. That in itself boosts Van Halen's value through the roof.
And who the fuck cares about Industrial Rock?
Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2011 01:43 PM (9GDSB)
@324: "In 1987-1989 WaxTrax was pushing the envelope of Industrial Rock. The live shows were legendary events."
Isn't that like pushing the envelope of classical tuba? Yes, there are fans out there, but still.... This word, "legendary," perhaps it does not mean quite what you think it means.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at June 09, 2011 01:43 PM (xy9wk)
What is your take then, oh great one? Seems very plausible. Dont let you PDS cloud your thinking. But keep trying to find the flavor of the month.
Same take as it's always been- Palin probably won't run, probably won't win the nomination if she does, and would be almost guaranteed to lose the general if she did get nominated. After losing a general election, she can kiss all that sweet, sweet Fox News, book and paid speech money goodbye.
The worst possible thing that could happen to Palin's career and influence would be to win the GOP primary.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 09, 2011 01:44 PM (WRW1S)
My bad. But the dude is meh among texans. I have con relatives there
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 05:42 PM (uwljR)
curious that you'd pull that card. curious indeed.
Tell ya what, chief. Let's bet. If Perry runs I will bet that he will both (a) win the Texas primary and (b) win Texas in the general election.
Want to take that bet?
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 01:44 PM (T0NGe)
"Green behind the ears? "
That not surprisingly wipes out the entire GOP field except Cain and me, baby!!!!
What I'm too old. You're right - Obama in 2012.
Posted by: Lee Iacocca at June 09, 2011 01:44 PM (ucq49)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 05:42 PM (uwljR)
You have no frame of reference here, Donny! You're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know...
Posted by: Walter Sobchek at June 09, 2011 01:44 PM (QcjoT)
You tell me
Posted by: Aquarius Love Aries at June 09, 2011 05:44 PM (bN5ZU)
If you sock stupid, own it.
Posted by: Steph at June 09, 2011 01:45 PM (AkdC5)
Same take as it's always been- Palin probably won't run, probably won't win the nomination if she does, and would be almost guaranteed to lose the general if she did get nominated. After losing a general election, she can kiss all that sweet, sweet Fox News, book and paid speech money goodbye.
The worst possible thing that could happen to Palin's career and influence would be to win the GOP primary.
------------------------
Signs have been pointing to her running and she is well positioned in gop polls now. I think she'll be fine.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 01:46 PM (uwljR)
My bad. But the dude is meh among texans. I have con relatives there
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 05:42 PM (uwljR)
curious that you'd pull that card. curious indeed.
Tell ya what, chief. Let's bet. If Perry runs I will bet that he will both (a) win the Texas primary and (b) win Texas in the general election.
Want to take that bet?
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 05:44 PM (T0NGe)
Considering Ace's update you already win it Amish.
Flapjack, you may be a good cheerleader for Palin but your political instincts and insights show your age.
Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2011 01:46 PM (oVQFe)
Non-Texan says what?
More than one or two political junkies have called Perry "the once and forever Governor." He beat Bill White to pulp (politically speaking) in a year he was supposed to be very vulnerable (thus the reason he had two Primary challengers).
With Rick Perry, it's very easy to forget that, every time he's run, he's been able to convince a clear majority of Texans that, however flawed, he was the best choice.
The other thing is this: assuming you're right: He's very 'meh' among some of the most conservative people in the Nation (what, 3rd behind OK and UT?) which places him solidly on the Right side of the aisle, without being quite so scary to the squishy middle.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 01:47 PM (8y9MW)
Y'all are getting a little sloppy on your sock detection skills...
Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at June 09, 2011 01:47 PM (GBXon)
WaxTrax shows outside of Chicago were rare. Usually had 2-3 Label groups who shared members and rotated lineups like a P-Funk / Parliament / Funkadelic show.
No two were alike, and to see one at a venue like the Limelight was a big deal. If the style of music isn't your bag, that's cool.
I have friends who don't like jazz. But they wouldn't deny that the 3 night run at Carnegie Hall during the NYC JazzFest is the stuff of legend. Where else could you see Miles on stage with BBKing, Sonny Rollins, and Jim Hall in the same night? Nowhere but Montrose or Newport...
this was the same type of thing.
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2011 01:49 PM (QcjoT)
Posted by: Aquarius Love Aries at June 09, 2011 05:42 PM (bN5ZU)
Oh, wonderful.
How tedious amusing tedious.
"etjegareva"
Spelled backwards is, of course, "Average Jte"
Well done, genius.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 01:49 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 09, 2011 01:49 PM (XmqZJ)
Posted by: Aquarius Love Aries at June 09, 2011 01:49 PM (bN5ZU)
we have a huge split in the Party, on one side is the Party Apparatus, their hangers-on and adherents, they claim that the only way to win is by picking moderate (progressive-lite) canidates, they fear the collapse of big government worse than they fear the collapse of our economy and culture, they claim to understand the trouble we are in, but only want to talk about solutions not actually solve any problems, they act like conservs, they talk like conservs but whenever it's time to BE a conservative they always get all weak-kneed and flibberty-jibberty.
they are the enablers of the socialist-destroyers and they still have most of the levers of power at their disposal, they are the enemy just as much as the socialists are, never, ever, ever trust anything they say.
on the other side are the remants of traditional america, the limited government-types, the individual liberty-types and the christians, they want they government out of their lives, out of their pocketbooks and firmly bound by the restrictions stated in the Constitution, they believe in this document the way it was written, not the way 220 years of lawyering says it is (and which is bought hook, line and sinker by the progressive repubs)
so prog repubs work really hard to take out real conservs and real conservs are finally starting to fight back and the prog-pubs hate it, they think the GOP is their's... it isn't, not anymore.
Posted by: Shoey at June 09, 2011 01:49 PM (jdOk/)
You tell me
Posted by: Aquarius Love Aries at June 09, 2011 05:44 PM (bN5ZU)
It's about to.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 01:49 PM (T0NGe)
I read something somewhere talking about a tussle in the republican party, the Bush contingent versus the others. Guess this means the bush contingent is all in?
Posted by: curious at June 09, 2011 01:51 PM (k1rwm)
One of....I'll give you one of.....
Posted by: © Sponge at June 09, 2011 05:48 PM (UK9cE)
If you say Santana I'll smack you through the webs.
Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2011 01:51 PM (9GDSB)
Eh. Good news for Palin - latest Fox poll had her second. Bad news for Palin. Same poll had her down 11 to Romney.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 09, 2011 05:49 PM (OWjjx)
another poll had her leading it.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 01:51 PM (uwljR)
Posted by: Aquarius Love Aries at June 09, 2011 01:51 PM (bN5ZU)
Rick Perry is not exactly part of the Bush Contingent.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 01:52 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 09, 2011 01:52 PM (cCtS2)
Posted by: DarkLord© still calls a certain state 'Thunderdome' at June 09, 2011 01:52 PM (GBXon)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 09, 2011 05:45 PM (LH6ir)
Actually does anyone give a honey badger shit?
Posted by: Vic at June 09, 2011 01:52 PM (M9Ie6)
Update: This really isn't too much beyond what we know, but a Texas source just told Rich Lowry "He's in."
Didnt say I was happy about it.
Posted by: Rich Lowry's Combover at June 09, 2011 01:52 PM (/COcn)
If you say Santana I'll smack you through the webs.
Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2011 05:51 PM (9GDSB)
Um.....no. He's not bad, but he's not one of the greatest. Hispanically speaking, maybe, but not of all time.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 09, 2011 01:52 PM (UK9cE)
another poll had her leading it.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 05:51 PM (uwljR)
Put your pants back on. You are pulling way too much out of your ass today.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 01:53 PM (T0NGe)
"My bad. But the dude is meh among texans. I have con relatives there"
I call bullshit. I've got squishes here, and they'd all pick Perry. Let's see - McLame takes TX by 4 million votes, but Perry ....?
Posted by: Face Palm at June 09, 2011 01:54 PM (ucq49)
Well, she does win every one of the AoSHQ online polls, so there's that.
Posted by: toby928™ at June 09, 2011 01:54 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 09, 2011 01:54 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: Aquarius Love Aries at June 09, 2011 05:51 PM (bN5ZU)
No. That's me.
And I'm all about the headbutts.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 01:54 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 09, 2011 05:43 PM (OWjjx)
Reminds me of the scene in Dark Knight where the Joker (Obama) gets girl-punched by Rachel (TPaw, Romney, etc.) and says, "You've got a little fight in you. I like that." Enter Batman (Perry)- "Then you're gonna love me".
Yup. If there is one thing I like about Perry, he's been consistent on bitch slapping Obama every chance he gets... and it leaves a mark.
Posted by: Damiano at June 09, 2011 01:55 PM (3nrx7)
Put your pants back on. You are pulling way too much out of your ass today.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 05:53 PM (T0NGe)
It was a reuters poll from like 2 days ago. You're getting a bit too excited about this.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 01:55 PM (uwljR)
The left & other left coast can suck it!
Posted by: TexBob at June 09, 2011 01:55 PM (7cXE7)
Posted by: Steph at June 09, 2011 01:55 PM (AkdC5)
Signs have been pointing to her running and she is well positioned in gop polls now. I think she'll be fine.
Signs that she's going to run such as... participating in the June 13 debate to which she was invited but isn't attending? Addressing the recent Faith and Freedom conference? Hiring veteran campaign advisors? Spending a lot of time in IA, NH and SC giving speeches? Forming an exploratory committee? Terminating her Fox News contract?
Yes, in early polls that are biased towards name recognition she does well among GOP primary voters. Amongst the general electorate, she polls somewhere between Charlie Sheen and the Ebola virus.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 09, 2011 01:56 PM (WRW1S)
Posted by: davidt at June 09, 2011 01:56 PM (GfhFm)
No. Not even close.
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2011 05:53 PM (QcjoT)
Well, then fucking pony up.
Jesus, dude, you poo-poo and go away.
Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2011 01:56 PM (9GDSB)
I call bullshit. I've got squishes here, and they'd all pick Perry. Let's see - McLame takes TX by 4 million votes, but Perry ....?
Posted by: Face Palm at June 09, 2011 05:54 PM (ucq49)
In the general? Sure they would. Most conservatives would. What are you talking about?
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 01:56 PM (uwljR)
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 09, 2011 01:57 PM (WvXvd)
“Finally, parents need to know that they have the final decision about whether or not their daughter is vaccinated. I am a strong believer in protecting parental rights, which is why this executive order allows them to opt out." Rick Perry February 5, 2007
Posted by: Public Service Message at June 09, 2011 05:52 PM (IhHdM)
It's the principal of the thing. There was an opt out clause, that I had to inconvenience myself to go through when I didn't need to in the beginning. If my doctor and I discuss such things about my daughter, that's fine. I don't need my doctor standing there with a needle telling me I can opt out if I want.
But that's just me, I guess.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 09, 2011 01:58 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 09, 2011 05:56 PM (WRW1S)
Can't they both lose?
Posted by: Henry Kissinger at June 09, 2011 01:59 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 09, 2011 01:59 PM (LH6ir)
they didn't invite that Johnson guy to the debate. This is how they control the system.
I wonder who was invited.
Posted by: curious at June 09, 2011 01:59 PM (k1rwm)
It's easier to opt out the HPV vaccine than it is, say, the Chicken Pox vaccine. It's a judgment call. I also think he made the wrong one, but I'm not all that upset about it.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 02:00 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Steph at June 09, 2011 02:00 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: K~Bob at June 09, 2011 02:01 PM (6sv5x)
Posted by: Stace at June 09, 2011 02:01 PM (H2SO+)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 09, 2011 02:01 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 02:02 PM (uwljR)
Eddie is a top 3 shredder.
Not a one-trick pony, but certainly not so head and shoulders above his contemporaries that he could be considered the 'best' at even his own genre.
He ranks behind Beck, Clapton, Zappa, Bolin, Iommi, and at least a half dozen other Rock and Roll guitarists I can name here.
He lacks versatility in tone more than technique. He also has a minor base of work when compared to other Rock Guitarists who played and recorded volumes more than he...
He's a stud. He had a huge impact, but for a limited time.
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2011 02:02 PM (QcjoT)
Posted by: Steph at June 09, 2011 06:00 PM (AkdC5)
yes
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at June 09, 2011 02:03 PM (uwljR)
Posted by: among others at June 09, 2011 02:03 PM (ucq49)
Screw you. We're from Texas
Screw you. We're from Texas
Screw you. We're from Texas
We're from Texas baby, so screw you
Posted by: Ray Wylie Hubbard at June 09, 2011 02:03 PM (le5qc)
I agree with you, however, at this point it looks like it's either Romney (RomneyCare), TPaw (Look! I got a new marketing team! Pay no attention to my squishy record!) or Perry. The rest are there purely for entertainment purposes.
Perry v. Romney is a no brainer IMO.
I suppose there could be a debate about Perry v. TPaw, but when it comes down to brass tacks, who's got the better resume and record and who has been most consistent?
Or to make it more simple: which State is currently less in the shitter? MN or TX?
Posted by: Damiano at June 09, 2011 02:03 PM (3nrx7)
We just call Him ol' beady eyes.
The whole vaccination thing pissed a lot people off, mandatory now.
Oh and the transcorridor PAY thing.
Posted by: SomeWhereSouthWest at June 09, 2011 02:04 PM (CyPWX)
It is a disease that can be prevented by behavior, unlike measles and mumps and chicken pox and the rest of the communicable diseases. I agree that it's not the government's business to push this vaccine.
[Although I wish you had been a sock or a troll; I would have told you that it wouldn't be an issue if your daughter could keep her legs closed.]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 09, 2011 02:04 PM (LH6ir)
Thanks for the reminder. Time to put on some relaxin' music. About the only thing better than that is Tweeting my Johnson to coeds.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 09, 2011 02:05 PM (1yViP)
they didn't invite that Johnson guy to the debate. This is how they control the system.
I wonder who was invited.
Posted by: curious at June 09, 2011 05:59 PM (k1rwm)
All of 10 seconds and I found it. Maybe you should try looking for the answers to the questions you ask sometime instead of posting off topic links all day.
Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, businessman Herman Cain, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, Texas Rep. Ron Paul, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum will participate in the June 13 debate on the campus of Saint Anselm College....
...Invitations were extended to the seven Republicans who will appear on stage in New Hampshire as well as Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and businessman Donald Trump.
Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2011 02:05 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2011 02:05 PM (QcjoT)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 09, 2011 02:06 PM (y/+eD)
Posted by: Steph at June 09, 2011 05:55 PM (AkdC5)
I really think Perry is in.
I can't say much more but my boss is a (very) well to do Texas oilman who knows Perry personally.
Posted by: Jollyroger at June 09, 2011 02:06 PM (NCw5u)
I'm not opposed to Perry running, and in fact I might support him if I like what I see; I just don't know anything about him aside from having nice hair.
However, know who his candidacy helps? Mitt Romney.
Currently, the race is shaping up to be Romney or the not-Romney candidate. Currently, that candidate appears to be Pawlenty. In a largely two man race between Pawlenty and Romney, TPaw has a pretty good shot. In a three-way race involving Romney, Pawlenty and Perry, the latter two could end up splitting the anti-Romney vote.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 09, 2011 02:06 PM (WRW1S)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 09, 2011 02:06 PM (cCtS2)
The list has a LOT to choose from.......
Posted by: © Sponge at June 09, 2011 05:59 PM (UK9cE)
I like Eddie for my favorite genre of 80's rock but Joe Satriani is amazing. I would guess that their skills are close.
Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2011 02:06 PM (9GDSB)
That is something he'll have to defend- not TTC: it's pretty much ancient history, politically speaking, and not something I think will gain much traction outside of Texas, anyway. But he is a major support of Toll Roads- which many people hate with passion.
Toll Roads have basically exploded since Perry became governor- on the other hand, I've been to all the neighboring states in just the last couple of years, and we have better roads, so it's a trade-off.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 02:06 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2011 02:07 PM (yny8c)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 09, 2011 02:08 PM (eOXTH)
Which is completely ridiculous, since TPaw is, on his record, Romney-Lite.
Not saying he couldn't really have had the epiphany he claims, but his record says he's a moderate Republican who believes in big-government policies.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 02:10 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2011 06:06 PM (9GDSB)
Are you a Zappa Fan? His take on Santana is funneh.
Frank was a mother on the guitar and his work ethic (and Satch) made Vai the maniac that he is.
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2011 02:10 PM (QcjoT)
they didn't invite that Johnson guy to the debate. This is how they control the system.
Johnson wasn't really in the May debate that he participated in.
If anything, there are too many people invited and participating as it is. Perhaps they should invent an age limit rule for the purpose of excluding Ron Paul and his obnoxious supporters.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 09, 2011 02:11 PM (WRW1S)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 06:10 PM (8y9MW)
Ronald Reagan has just such an epiphany. At some level it is a sign of intelligence and common sense that he can change his mind. I think we look for purity and consistency of thought at the expense of recognizing that situations and data change.
I'm not trying to start a fight, but we are too doctrinaire too often.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 09, 2011 02:14 PM (LH6ir)
Reuters is out with a story late Thursday that says Secretary of State Hillary Clinton may leave the Obama administration next year to become World Bank president.
The White House declined to comment, and ClintonÂ’s spokesperson denied that she is eyeing the job.
But the Reuters story, which relies on three unidentified sources, says the talks are far along: “A third source said Obama has already expressed support for the change in her role. It is unclear whether Obama has formally agreed to nominate her for the post, which would require approval by the 187 member countries of the World Bank.”
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 09, 2011 02:15 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2011 06:02 PM (QcjoT)
Good deal. All talented guitarists you mentioned, for sure.
FWIW, Clapton hangs out in a couple bars in Worthington, about 20 minutes from here. I'm tempted to drive over and say hi, maybe get a picture.
Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2011 02:15 PM (9GDSB)
Killing Joke, nice Joanie.
I'm a big Nels Cline fan. Loved his work with M.Watt.
Lee Ronaldo and Thurston Moore blow me away...too many good guitarists.
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2011 02:15 PM (QcjoT)
Posted by: observer at June 09, 2011 02:17 PM (YYfif)
Yeah... but Reagan's epiphany was long before he ran for President. TPaw's seems a little convenient to me.
Now, I know he's saying all the right things- and even saying things which would normally be unpopular (proposing ending corn subsidies- while in Iowa, for instance), so I'm willing to give him a chance, but I'm skeptical.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 02:17 PM (8y9MW)
I really think Perry is in.
I can't say much more but my boss is a (very) well to do Texas oilman who knows Perry personally.
Posted by: Jollyroger at June 09, 2011 06:06 PM (NCw5u)
He may be, and if he is I'm fine with it. More the merrier. I've just become so cynical with anything reported by media from "sources" that I try to wait until it comes from the horse's mouth.
Posted by: Steph at June 09, 2011 02:18 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 09, 2011 02:18 PM (kUaEF)
they didn't invite that Johnson guy to the debate. This is how they control the system.
Johnson wasn't really in the May debate that he participated in.
If anything, there are too many people invited and participating as it is. Perhaps they should invent an age limit rule for the purpose of excluding Ron Paul and his obnoxious supporters.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 09, 2011 06:11 PM (WRW1S)
on this we can agree, Paulbots are incredibly annoying...
Posted by: Shoey at June 09, 2011 02:19 PM (jdOk/)
Posted by: davidt at June 09, 2011 02:19 PM (GfhFm)
Are you a Zappa Fan? His take on Santana is funneh.
Frank was a mother on the guitar and his work ethic (and Satch) made Vai the maniac that he is.
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2011 06:10 PM (QcjoT)
No, I don't know much about him. Any songs I should focus on?
I've been working on country lately and haven't been paying much attention to anything else.
Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2011 02:20 PM (9GDSB)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 09, 2011 02:20 PM (cCtS2)
Well, that's better than a squish who doubles down on the squish. TPaw's tax record is very good and he disavows the C&T stuff pretty strongly. So I'm willing to take it.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 02:20 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 09, 2011 02:21 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 09, 2011 06:20 PM (cCtS2)
Get outta my head! 
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 09, 2011 02:21 PM (UOM48)
Yeah, like I said, I'm willing to give him a chance- I'm just maintaining my skepticism.
Of course, if Perry runs, it won't matter what I think about TPaw- I already know I like Perry better. Also, if Perry runs, my vote won't count- since Texas will vote for Perry whether I head to the polls on election day (primary or general) or not.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 02:22 PM (8y9MW)
Clapton hangs out in a couple bars in Worthington, about 20 minutes from here. I'm tempted to drive over and say hi, maybe get a picture.
He's a humble player. Never seen him step on anyone's toes. Ever.
Derek and the Dominoes Live at the Filmore is one of my fav guitar albums of all time. The 'Why Does Love...' on that is fantastic. Silly Wah work.
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2011 02:23 PM (QcjoT)
I am sure that another strongly worded letter from Boehner is in the works... right?
Posted by: Damiano at June 09, 2011 02:23 PM (3nrx7)
Posted by: A Confused Aerosmith Fan at June 09, 2011 02:24 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 09, 2011 06:18 PM (kUaEF)
She's been bathing in their blood for years, but so far to very limited effect.
Posted by: Cicero at June 09, 2011 02:25 PM (QKKT0)
Yeah, if Perry gets in, I don't see TPaw breaking out at all. He's got no niche.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 02:26 PM (T0NGe)
Well hell I only have 15-20yrs left and I didn't fight as a Grunt twice in a war to see my Country taken down by a bunch of misfits so the Lord will give me that dream I think, I've somewhat been a good boy. : )
Oh btw do you know anyone named Vic Aliffi in Savannah, he was one of my CO's in Nam.
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 09, 2011 02:26 PM (cCtS2)
I wasn't aware that Yemen had civilians.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 02:27 PM (T0NGe)
"Great. Can't wait for the news stories of her accosting young maids and forcing them to perform orals sex on her."
You hate men right? Trying to put a pic so disgusting in our mind that all the brain bleach, and Viagra, will leave us, like Weiner, soon enough, shriveled, flaccid, unable to make roll call.
Posted by: among others at June 09, 2011 02:27 PM (ucq49)
I think Romney's candidacy withers and dies the minute Perry announces.
I could see voting for Perry. I know a lotta Texas folk have been claiming he's RINO-iffic, so I'll do my own vetting. Maybe send him a picture of AW's junk. Would that be bad?
Posted by: K~Bob at June 09, 2011 02:27 PM (6sv5x)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at June 09, 2011 02:28 PM (6yyVB)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 09, 2011 02:29 PM (lbo6/)
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 06:27 PM (T0NGe)
Heh. NYT's words (and O'Gusty's), not mine.
Posted by: Damiano at June 09, 2011 02:29 PM (3nrx7)
No, Mr. Fantastic will still be in it, but if it's Romney vs. Perry, he doesn't stand a chance. If he can get the conservatives sniping at each other, he can win a bunch of primaries with 30%-40% of the vote and do things the McCain way.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 02:29 PM (T0NGe)
I'm not a huge fan of making political predictions, but it seems to me that the nomination is Perry's to lose, if he runs at all.
He appeals to enough of the base to get their consent and support, and he'll carry Texas (which is a lot of votes). I think he plays well in LA, FL, OK, and most of the mid-west as well, so he's got a lot of wiggle room.
Moreover, he's the only one (with actual name recognition) who is a current governor and can say, "Look at my accomplishments. Isn't it time we had someone with government executive experience and a laundry list of actual accomplishments in the White house?" Even with his negatives, I bet that would generate a lot of support.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 02:30 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2011 06:23 PM (QcjoT)
Clapton is a class act. That's why I don't want to bother him.
Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2011 02:30 PM (9GDSB)
No, I don't know much about him. Any songs I should focus on?
I would start with the album/cd 'Overnight Sensation / Apostraphe'...'Sheik Yerbouti' and 'Joe's Garage' are also good introductions.
I like a lot of the live stuff from the late 70's, too. They released a lot of that stuff to cut down on the viability of bootlegs.
As for good Country/Rock -
the Supersuckers 'Must've Been High' and Ween's '12 Golden Country Greats' both good stuff.
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2011 02:31 PM (QcjoT)
Here's a thought.....why don't you try being informed rather than just opinionated?
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 09, 2011 02:31 PM (J4Pnx)
Good idea. But, remember, that it's Texan's saying he's RINO-iffic. And, compared to many of us, he is. It's just that being a Texas RINO is still well to the Right of, say, Mittens.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 02:32 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 09, 2011 02:32 PM (kOtPb)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 06:30 PM (8y9MW)
Oh no. What's in the negatives?
Posted by: First Tony Weiner, Now This at June 09, 2011 02:33 PM (QKKT0)
By the time we get to the primaries in the state you mention (with the exception of FL), it's a good bet that things are already over.
It would be interesting to see how things go with Perry v. Romney v. Pawlenty in the early states.
Posted by: Damiano at June 09, 2011 02:34 PM (3nrx7)
Well hell I only have 15-20yrs left and I didn't fight as a Grunt twice in a war to see my Country taken down by a bunch of misfits so the Lord will give me that dream I think, I've somewhat been a good boy. : )
Oh btw do you know anyone named Vic Aliffi in Savannah, he was one of my CO's in Nam.
I sure don't, 'Nam. Looking in the directory, there are only about four Aliffis listed, and no Vic.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 09, 2011 02:35 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 09, 2011 02:35 PM (kUaEF)
Okay- Rick Perry folks trawling the inter-tubes for Perry's weak points? Make sure you address Guardisil.
Here's the skinny: Rick Perry advocated for (and got) requiring Guardisil immunizations as required state immunizations for public school enrollment. He ALSO left in a provision which- by all accounts- makes it very easy to opt out of that "required" immunization and still have your girl enrolled in public schools. I'm not sure how easy it is or isn't, and I won't find out for about another 12 years, so ask someone with a girl older than 14.
So, to recap: three ways to avoid the Guardisil injection: 1) opt out. 2) private school. 3) Home school. Anyone who can't do 2 or 3 still has option 1.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 02:36 PM (8y9MW)
Texas is big, but being a governor of a Southern state is more or less a "tallest dwarf" distinction. It doesn't guarantee the competency to run a complicated, diverse modern democracy.
Fuck you.
Posted by: An Official Message From The Lollipop Guild at June 09, 2011 02:37 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: mpurinTexas
I think Ace should have put up a wager board on how long it would take the regulars here to stop chomping down on every fishhook tossed out by Average Joe.
I'd take the 'Never' line in a heartbeat.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 09, 2011 02:37 PM (qaU+h)
You owe me a new laptop.
And a new can of Dr. Pepper.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 02:37 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: t-bird at June 09, 2011 02:37 PM (FcR7P)
Yeah, that wasn't my favorite either- but it is completely in keeping with his normal stance on the border. See my earlier post outlining Perry's position on the border, above.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 09, 2011 02:39 PM (8y9MW)
http://tinyurl.com/3k6cscd
Posted by: Fritz at June 09, 2011 02:39 PM (p2IBw)
We need the women to chime in:
Who is better looking Romney or Perry? You have to be honest, because that determines which one win the Primary. If you doubt it, place your bets.
A country dumb enough to have put Obama in power, doesn't think on the complicated thinking being used at this site. I'm a guy so I would romeny gets it, plus the Republican Establishment is more likely to go for Romney.
Posted by: Poo for Brains at June 09, 2011 02:41 PM (JMsOK)
I'll check it out.
Cool.
If it was still 20 years ago, I'd offer to swap you out blank tapes for copies via snail mail.
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2011 02:41 PM (QcjoT)
I wasn't aware that Yemen had civilians.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 06:27 PM (T0NGe)
Well, strictly speaking, terrorists are civilians.
Posted by: Herr Blücher at June 09, 2011 02:41 PM (PaOTm)
Ace updated the headline to "He's in".
Well, that cinches it. Perry is definitely not running. Other than his infallibly accurate Weiner prophecy, Ace has an unblemished always-wrong record on predictions.
Posted by: Damiano at June 09, 2011 02:42 PM (3nrx7)
He's also got charisma. His negatives are not as bad as similar negatives in the other feasible components.
I think you're right. It's his to lose. I also think he would keep Sarah from running.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 09, 2011 02:42 PM (T0NGe)
I'd take the 'Never' line in a heartbeat.
Well, I think the advice works for Average Joe quite well, whatever the sock may be.
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 09, 2011 02:43 PM (J4Pnx)
Posted by: Steph at June 09, 2011 02:44 PM (AkdC5)
Texas is big, but being a governor of a Southern state is more or less a "tallest dwarf" distinction. It doesn't guarantee the competency to run a complicated, diverse modern democracy."
Unlike Lame, Vermouth, New Humpshears, Conneticunt, Road Innerds, Taxachusetts, New Sodom & Gomorrah, ......
You're influence is meh. Tiny like Weiner's member. Check an electoral map. Get over it.
Posted by: among others at June 09, 2011 02:45 PM (ucq49)
Sarah won't run. She will endorse Perry, she will fund raise for him and she will graciously accept a cabinet position when he wins.
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 09, 2011 02:45 PM (J4Pnx)
Posted by: Barbara at June 09, 2011 02:47 PM (GfhFm)
He's a humble player. Never seen him step on anyone's toes. Ever.
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2011 06:23 PM (Qcjo..)I always got that vibe from him. Jack Bruce pointed out (after playing with a bunch of other guys in the late 70's and early 80's) that Clapton had the best time of all of them.
I double down on that one. Clapton and SRV has/had monster "time." That grabs you before you even get a chance to marvel at the chops.
My current favorite guitar player is Laith Al-Saadi. Sings his ass off, too. Laith's regular bass man (Dave Stearns) is a beast, too. Laith doesn't do "the look" of a pop star. Kinda has that chunky, plain look that's deceiving. So get past that and listen to the chops.
Posted by: K~Bob at June 09, 2011 02:47 PM (6sv5x)
Posted by: Tony "The Tweeter" Weiner at June 09, 2011 02:48 PM (6yyVB)
Perry makes a good bottom of the ticket guy. We will have to see how well he does on the debate stage...that is a difficult area to be.
Posted by: Jimi at June 09, 2011 02:48 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 09, 2011 02:51 PM (cCtS2)
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at June 09, 2011 02:52 PM (YYfif)
@482: "I am sure that another strongly worded letter from Boehner is in the works... right?"
Du....*hic*....dude. I'm on thish like a motherfucker.
*blink*
Enny...ennybody got a little scotsh?
Posted by: John *hic* Boehner at June 09, 2011 02:55 PM (xy9wk)
We need the women to chime in:
Who is better looking Romney or Perry? You have to be honest, because that determines which one win the Primary. If you doubt it, place your bets.
--------------------
Perry, but who cares? I was for Haley Barbour and then Mitch Daniels so looks are pretty obviously not a factor. LOL
Posted by: Beth at June 09, 2011 03:01 PM (5NfIh)
Posted by: Stace at June 09, 2011 03:01 PM (H2SO+)
I think a lot of that had to do with running for re-election in Texas, you can't trash the hispanics and get elected here. I think he will have more "acceptable" position on this subject in a national election. Remeber what I said in my original post, he is a CAREER POLITICIAN. Like it or not ...
Posted by: Superunknown at June 09, 2011 03:09 PM (Jffpi)
Posted by: Stace at June 09, 2011 07:01 PM (H2SO+)
Save your breath. Our (GOP) betters, ie Rockerfeller/Limosene conservatives, like the Dims, who know what's best for us.
Posted by: Here we go again at June 09, 2011 03:17 PM (ucq49)
Posted by: Former Powers Rome, Austria-Hungary, and California at June 09, 2011 03:21 PM (xy9wk)
@541
You got me. That's Huge! ObamaCare/RomneyCare, AGW, tax and spend, .... mmm mmm mmm
Did you know that T-Paw has a wart on his left cheek. Huge. I mean disqualifying!
Posted by: Here we go again at June 09, 2011 03:26 PM (ucq49)
Key word there is mandatory. Do your research.
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 09, 2011 03:29 PM (J4Pnx)
@544
Sorry I'm not one to generally disqualify someone for one thing, but this is a huge to me. Who the hell does he think he is to tell me I HAVE to have my daughters vaccinated with this crap?
Posted by: smalltowngirl at June 09, 2011 03:34 PM (PedQN)
Bypassing the Legislature altogether, Republican Gov. Rick Perry issued an order Friday making Texas the first state to require that schoolgirls get vaccinated against the sexually transmitted virus that causes cervical cancer.
this is the correct link to the story.
Posted by: smalltowngirl at June 09, 2011 03:37 PM (PedQN)
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 09, 2011 03:38 PM (J4Pnx)
Opt-out option for parents
Texas allows parents to opt out of inoculations by filing an affidavit objecting to the vaccine on religious or philosophical reasons.
Not mandatory.
Also a dead issue.
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 09, 2011 03:41 PM (J4Pnx)
@549
I did read the opt out portion, but doesn't it concern you how he went about this, and in general doesn't it concern you that he (the government) is telling you what's best for your kid?
I'm not trying to start a fight, I'm really confused and concerned by his decision to do this, I would think others would question it as well.
Posted by: smalltowngirl at June 09, 2011 03:43 PM (PedQN)
Posted by: K~Bob at June 09, 2011 03:55 PM (6sv5x)
I did read the opt out portion, but doesn't it concern you how he went about this, and in general doesn't it concern you that he (the government) is telling you what's best for your kid?
I'm not trying to start a fight, I'm really confused and concerned by his decision to do this, I would think others would question it as well.
I wish the vaccine had been around when I was teen. Would have saved me from having to have a cervical biopsy and a cancer scare when I was in my 30's.
Governments can propose anything...as long as it's not mandatory.
I'm more concerned with being forced to buy health insurance and facing penalties if I don't.
Further, the legislature killed this and Perry could have vetoed the bill and made it happen anyway, but chose not to. He knows when an issue has gone south and knows when to back off.
If they came up with a vaccine that prevented AIDS, would you not have your loved ones vaccinated?
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 09, 2011 04:02 PM (J4Pnx)
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Posted by: Comanche Voter at June 09, 2011 04:57 PM (3ESDJ)
Swing for the fences. Nexttime include reference to Haliburton and Diebold. And extra style points for a "Chimpy Halibushitler."
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