February 05, 2014

Hey Conservatives! Are You Ready To Nominate One Of Your Own For President? Too Bad Because The Hottest New Establishment Darling Is....Jeb Bush.
— DrewM

Jeb Bush: Tanned, Rested, Moderate!

“Bush’s speeches are getting better, tighter, and more campaigny, from what I’ve noticed,” a senior Florida republican strategist says. “I still think Jeb is only a three-in-ten shot to go, but if you’re in his shoes, and Chris Christie has taken a huge hit in stock value — wouldn’t you wait and see? If Christie survives and runs, it’s a harder proposition by far, obviously.”

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The third issue that could cause Bush headaches as a presidential candidate [after Bush fatigue and amnesty] is his support for Common Core. He’s not backing down, despite the controversy, declaring at a charter high school in Hialeah last week, “The aspiration ought to be: Every child should be college- or career-ready. And we should benchmark ourselves to the best in the world. The good-faith effort of Common Core State Standards and now these Florida standards is the right path to be on.”

The problem for Bush is that a vocal chunk of the conservative grassroots thinks Common Core is precisely the opposite of a “good-faith effort.”

Via Andy let me add a fourth issues that would cause heartburn if Jeb were to run...global warming.

“I can see him coming around to some combination of a cap-and-trade program as the best alternative to regulate and at the same time not completely abandoning his principles on something by going to a place where we’re scientifically uncertain,” said David Struhs, who served six years as the Bush-appointed head of the Florida Department of Environmental Protection.
“Those are the kinds of conversations that he can engage in in a way that a less familiar politician, particular in the Republican Party, can’t do, even if they’re intellectually capable of it,” Struhs added. “They have to go hard right to prove they’re conservative. Jeb Bush is given a pass there because he’s already been there. He’s already done it.”

Um, I'm not sure conservatives buy Jeb Bush is a conservative.

Yes people will point to his work on school choice but is there any evidence that it moves votes? It's the right policy (at the state and local level) but there's no reason to believe that another massive reorganization of federal education policies will lead to more local control and choice. A truly conservative national education policy is...get the hell out of education policy at the federal level.

Some people are committed to running through every warmed over moderate before they are willing to even consider an actual conservative. Unfortunately those people are the ones who run and fund the GOP.

Related for fun: Mitt Romney is back to thinking global warming is a problem.

“It is a Democrat issue but I think it’s an issue for both parties,” he said. “If you think global warming is just in America, it’s not just America. There needs to be a global understanding and a real global effort. There’s no global effort whatsoever.”

Posted by: DrewM at 10:19 AM | Comments (428)
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1 *face palm*

Posted by: EC at February 05, 2014 10:20 AM (GQ8sn)

2 hey everybody! I'm back after a very long and painful morning with no power and trees coming down everywhere! it's like a freaking war zone in my development but of course - all due to Manmade Global Warming So it's my own fault really. As are the Bushies.

Posted by: Black Orchid at February 05, 2014 10:20 AM (pS66t)

3 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 10:20 AM (PYAXX)

4 This is surprising?

Posted by: Bigby's Germy Hands at February 05, 2014 10:21 AM (KgN8K)

5 how about a govt effort to TAKE DOWN TREES BY POWER LINES that is a simple, important thing that govts should actually do. Pondering AGW . . . no. please stay away from wasting money on that PLEASE

Posted by: Black Orchid at February 05, 2014 10:21 AM (pS66t)

6 After removing a foot of fresh Global Warming from my driveway and walkways, I assure you that it is indeed a problem. Oh. Wait.

Posted by: Andy at February 05, 2014 10:21 AM (vGQV1)

7 Well, he beats Fat Bastard Rino.

Posted by: maddogg at February 05, 2014 10:22 AM (xWW96)

8 No More Bush!   ....wait let me rephrase that.

Posted by: dogfish at February 05, 2014 10:22 AM (NuPNl)

9 12 years ago? Yes. Now, not a chance.

Posted by: Hank Johnson at February 05, 2014 10:22 AM (0FSuD)

10 C'mon Jeb, just switch parties already.


Posted by: drill_thrawl at February 05, 2014 10:22 AM (rdiUQ)

11 >> how about a govt effort to TAKE DOWN TREES BY POWER LINES Or, even better, to bury the goddamned power lines.

Posted by: Andy at February 05, 2014 10:22 AM (vGQV1)

12 I make certain to tel the RNC how I feel about Jeb every time I speak with them. As for the claim that he's so popular in Florida: Bullshit. He WAS popular but now couldn't get reelected to Tallahassee.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2014 10:22 AM (DmNpO)

13 Posted by: EC at February 05, 2014 02:20 PM (GQ8sn) I see your face palm and raise you another: *double face palm*

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 10:23 AM (PYAXX)

14 Off ugly Guam sock!

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 05, 2014 10:23 AM (0FSuD)

15 Oh, and fuck the GOP Establishment with a bridge abuttment wrapped in razor wire.

Posted by: maddogg at February 05, 2014 10:23 AM (xWW96)

16 time for some weapons-grade SMOD

Posted by: the Butcher at February 05, 2014 10:23 AM (8g9qq)

17 Friends, you have nothing to fear with Jeb Bush in the White House.

Posted by: shredded chi - cereal killer at February 05, 2014 10:23 AM (u8vcQ)

18 I like it.

Posted by: Burn Burn Burn at February 05, 2014 10:23 AM (Aif/5)

19 Jon Huntsman hardest hit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 05, 2014 10:23 AM (8ZskC)

20 The only thing mildly interesting on this front lately are the e-mails I've been getting about drafting Ben Carson. Sadly, last I heard, he was for Amnesty too.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 05, 2014 10:23 AM (0jFxY)

21 Jeb Bush Oh sweet Jesus. No no no no no no no no no! (facepalm)

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 05, 2014 10:23 AM (7ObY1)

22 Michael Gerson just got a semi.

Posted by: DCPensFan at February 05, 2014 10:23 AM (ma/2m)

23 Jeb Bush still won't debate Michelle Malkin in regards to Communist Core.

He's fucking coward statist fuck.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at February 05, 2014 10:24 AM (cxs6V)

24 really?

I posted a couple weeks back that the wife said she saw him in LAX and he looked like he'd been dragged behind a pickup for about a mile.

She even considered buying him a bottle of water (that's how wrecked he looked) but then quickly remembered she didn't like him and pressed on to get her bags.

Posted by: tangonine at February 05, 2014 10:24 AM (x3YFz)

25 Bush versus Clinton in 2016, what's next a revival for Destiny's Child?

Posted by: MikeH at February 05, 2014 10:24 AM (cYaNh)

26 19 Jon Huntsman hardest hit. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 05, 2014 02:23 PM (8ZskC) Jon Huntsman's daughters, the most hard to hit!

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 05, 2014 10:24 AM (0FSuD)

27 With that headline, yer jest troll'n us.

Posted by: Justin Lately Jr at February 05, 2014 10:24 AM (nQE02)

28 No Clintons, Bushes, Yalies, Harvardites, or lawyers. Next.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 05, 2014 10:24 AM (659DL)

29 A friend of mine marveled recently at the GOP's capacity to misunderstand its base, and the reason for its existence. 


I wonder why anyone thinks the GOP misunderstands anything.  They know what they're doing.  That their goals and the goals of their base do not coincide is not coincidence.  >_> It is simply a problem for them to work through. 


No vote for the GOP, ever.  Rather, I'll watch it burn.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at February 05, 2014 10:24 AM (AaIQj)

30 Shut up Mitt. Go away Bush. There, all fixed. And with the attention and careful effort it deserves too.

Posted by: MTF at February 05, 2014 10:24 AM (F58x4)

31 I see your face palm and raise you another:

*double face palm*

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 02:23 PM (PYAXX)



The pain is so great I will up that with...


*triple dog-dare face palm*

Posted by: EC at February 05, 2014 10:24 AM (GQ8sn)

32 "As for the claim that he's so popular in Florida: Bullshit. He WAS popular but now couldn't get reelected to Tallahassee." He didn't fare well at all in that poll we did of registered voters in FL late last year.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 05, 2014 10:25 AM (0jFxY)

33 Alright, the last of the wine and a nap. BBL

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 05, 2014 10:25 AM (0FSuD)

34 I'm already three-quarters convinced that McLame and Romney were sacrificial plants, intended to lose to His Historicalness. If the DOPe actually runs Jebbie, I will be fully convinced.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 05, 2014 10:25 AM (7ObY1)

35 Yeah, I scraped a thick layer of global warming off my car this morning. Why would any Republican buy this crock of socialist shit?

Posted by: joncelli at February 05, 2014 10:25 AM (RD7QR)

36 What a waste of energy it is to keep fretting over Jeb Bush. He isn't running.

Posted by: Soothsayer and the Cult Jam at February 05, 2014 10:25 AM (iwCB8)

37 No More Bush! ....wait let me rephrase that. Waxed hardwoods FTW!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 05, 2014 10:25 AM (xorT2)

38 The pain is so great I will up that with... *triple dog-dare face palm* Posted by: EC at February 05, 2014 02:24 PM (GQ8sn) triple double-dog dare face palm

Posted by: MikeH at February 05, 2014 10:25 AM (cYaNh)

39 Yes!!!! Maybe four more years of BOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSHHHH. Actually Jeb, STFD and STFU. Listen to your mom.

Posted by: RWC at February 05, 2014 10:25 AM (fWAjv)

40 Good Lord, do I hate these people. 

Posted by: PAgirlinNC at February 05, 2014 10:25 AM (mPKiR)

41 Bob Dole still thinks its his turn.

Posted by: Bob Dole at February 05, 2014 10:25 AM (8ZskC)

42 28 No Clintons, Bushes, Yalies, Harvardites, or lawyers. Ted Cruz is two of those, you know.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 05, 2014 10:26 AM (7ObY1)

43 Oh, that darn Mitt. Gosh darn, he would have made a heck of a president. We would have seen a "fix" of Obamacare, he would have put in a nice crippling cap and trade policy and had a really neat amnesty program already in place.

Posted by: Duke at February 05, 2014 10:26 AM (d3clc)

44 I still think Jeb is only a three-in-ten shot to go

The correct phrasing is "I give it one chance in three."

Then you eat a forkful of steak.

Posted by: Waterhouse at February 05, 2014 10:26 AM (hBNxo)

45 >"A friend of mine marveled recently at the GOP's capacity to misunderstand its base..."



I'm in the camp now where I don't think they do.  They understand it quite well and want nothing more than to jettison it so they can turn to port.

Posted by: dogfish at February 05, 2014 10:26 AM (NuPNl)

46

“It is a Democrat issue but I think it’s an issue for both parties,” he said.

 

FFS, can't we find a politician who has enough brains to know that AGW is baloney, and start talking about the flaws in the data, so when the fucking thing comes unravelled, we will be there saying told ya so?

 

In order to make that judgement, the politicians will have to get their heads around some facts and data, so they can make the call on how far we get out ahead of the coming Globaloney crash and burn. It is coming - just a matter of how soon.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at February 05, 2014 10:26 AM (sG76x)

47 35 Yeah, I scraped a thick layer of global warming off my car this morning. Why would any Republican buy this crock of socialist shit? Posted by: joncelli at February 05, 2014 02:25 PM (RD7QR) For the tax revenues, it's all about the money

Posted by: MikeH at February 05, 2014 10:26 AM (cYaNh)

48 33 Alright, the last of the wine and a nap. BBL Posted by: Nip Sip at February 05, 2014 02:25 PM (0FSuD) Nip Sip, I think you may have a drinking problem. It took you wayyyyyyyy too long to finish that bottle.

Posted by: RWC at February 05, 2014 10:26 AM (fWAjv)

49 the important thing is for more than one RINO to get in the race so they split money and votes in the primaries we want Christie/Jeb/Ryan fighting it out for who can whore themselves out to the Chamber of Commerce most

Posted by: Jose at February 05, 2014 10:27 AM (zc/sw)

50 No.
Never.
Enough's enough.

Posted by: backhoe at February 05, 2014 10:27 AM (ULH4o)

51 Remember: we're supposed to vote for politicians who take Democrat positions, and push for Democrat policies because they're Republicans.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 05, 2014 10:27 AM (0jFxY)

52 Oh right, so the media can reuse every trope they used on his father and big brother. The Establishment never seem to learn.

Posted by: Mike Giles at February 05, 2014 10:27 AM (QM4YC)

53 9 out of 10 MSNBC hosts approve.

Posted by: --- at February 05, 2014 10:27 AM (MMC8r)

54 Oh for fuck's sake. JUST GO AWAY, BUSHES.

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 05, 2014 10:27 AM (eytER)

55 Black Orchid

Living in the northern forest where trees over top all the power lines everywhere.
I can sympathize with you.

You know those trees will fall one day, and they will take down the power line, and no one will do anything about it until the power goes out then it's panic time.

Posted by: Justin Lately Jr at February 05, 2014 10:27 AM (nQE02)

56 He didn't fare well at all in that poll we did of registered voters in FL late last year *** I don't know any R'pub who likes him.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2014 10:27 AM (DmNpO)

57 Told you so.

Posted by: Daybrother at February 05, 2014 10:27 AM (+zA/K)

58 well, that's one way for the RNC to make sure a Demonrat wins in 2016...

re-running Mittens is another, as is passing amnesty, no matter how they package it.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 05, 2014 10:28 AM (q+fqH)

59 I already have my daddy calling Hairy Reid to tell him Jebbie hasn't filed his tax returns in decades. Oh, and I speak Mandarin, bitchez.

Posted by: Jonny Huntsman at February 05, 2014 10:28 AM (7ObY1)

60 Nip Sip, I think you may have a drinking problem. It took you wayyyyyyyy too long to finish that bottle. Posted by: RWC at February 05, 2014 02:26 PM (fWAjv) Well, I lied. I am on my third. Hand hurts like shit from operation, that's my story.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 05, 2014 10:28 AM (0FSuD)

61 Posted by: Justin Lately Jr at February 05, 2014 02:27 PM (nQE02) And *then* they'll blame the power company.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 10:28 AM (PYAXX)

62 triple double-dog dare face palm

Posted by: MikeH at February 05, 2014 02:25 PM (cYaNh)



Nobody does a triple double dog dare!


Posted by: EC at February 05, 2014 10:28 AM (GQ8sn)

63 Bring it!  I'm sooooooo ready...

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 05, 2014 10:28 AM (GjPnA)

64 If the Repubs do nominate him?? Or even seriously TRY??? Proof that the GOP is suicidal... and the Big Whigs of the GOP are REALLY out of touch with the base.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 05, 2014 10:28 AM (84gbM)

65 I'm in the camp now where I don't think they do. They understand it quite well and want nothing more than to jettison it so they can turn to port.

Posted by: dogfish at February 05, 2014 02:26 PM (NuPNl)


That is how I feel as well.  It is why I will simply not vote for them anymore.

I mean, really, once the mask has come off, does anyone still buy the act when the mask is put back on?

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at February 05, 2014 10:28 AM (AaIQj)

66 It's never a good sign when you defend something by calling it a "good-faith effort."

Posted by: Michael at February 05, 2014 10:28 AM (smKbx)

67 Hey wingnuts, we can be Compassionate and Conservative!

Posted by: El Gobernador Jeb Bush at February 05, 2014 10:28 AM (8ZskC)

68 44 I still think Jeb is only a three-in-ten shot to go The correct phrasing is "I give it one chance in three." Then you eat a forkful of steak. Posted by: Waterhouse at February 05, 2014 02:26 PM (hBNxo) Then sing the Soviet National Anthem, like Barry does when he wakes up

Posted by: MikeH at February 05, 2014 10:28 AM (cYaNh)

69 Ted Cruz is two of those, you know. Yes, I do.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 05, 2014 10:28 AM (659DL)

70

Rudy    Giuliani.

 

Roooooody

Posted by: eleven at February 05, 2014 10:28 AM (fsLdt)

71 Jeb Bush, really?  The guy whose own mother said it's not a good idea...ummm, okay. 

Posted by: no good deed at February 05, 2014 10:28 AM (vBhbc)

72 If the GOP establishment's moderation were carbon dioxide, Global Warming would be real.

Posted by: Boomslang Joe at February 05, 2014 10:28 AM (0h8aq)

73 54 Oh for fuck's sake. JUST GO AWAY, BUSHES. Posted by: @JohnTant at February 05, 2014 02:27 PM (eytER) So you like my Brazilian?

Posted by: St Sandra at February 05, 2014 10:29 AM (0FSuD)

74 Global warming. Yeah, MR's evolution in that is no surprise Here in Utah they are seriously making noise about eliminating wood burning. That'll do wonders for our tourism, not to mention the budgets of working families who use it to supplement home heating.

Posted by: Y-not aka t-shirt at February 05, 2014 10:29 AM (zDsvJ)

75 SMOD why have you abandoned us?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 05, 2014 10:29 AM (nzKvP)

76 We talk like fags and our shit's all retarded.

Posted by: Grand Old Party of Marxist Quislings at February 05, 2014 10:29 AM (JQuNB)

77 "There needs to be a global understanding and a real global effort. There’s no global effort whatsoever.”


Then it's agreed, we should be the last to do anything so we don't screw ourselves over. So as long as China, India, and Africa hold out we should as well.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invsible Pimp Hand at February 05, 2014 10:29 AM (WdbF7)

78 >>>Sadly, last I heard, he was for Amnesty too. It is such a done deal that you're probably better off thinking hard on how you'll deal with it afterwards. All of the political class are behind it, with few exceptions, and have been for the last 20 years. They're just awaiting an opportune moment. The question for me is akin to what Ace said so long ago: The Left thought they couldn't go full Socialist becoz it would wake the American Bear, which it didn't. Now they think they can do this, too. Frankly, I'm curious how much they want to poke the bear now. Oughta be a good show.

Posted by: Bigby's Germy Hands at February 05, 2014 10:29 AM (KgN8K)

79 Y'all ought to read the sidebar Drudge referral on Google and the end of privacy. This is a winning issue for someone in the next election; passing a law ending corporate attempts to identify individuals, except in credit granting, for the purpose of selling information about you. Get rid of surveillance without a warrant, public or private. Credit granting companies should, on the other hand, be required to verify your identity before lending, ending all consumer credit card and lending fraud impacts on citizens.

Posted by: MTF at February 05, 2014 10:29 AM (F58x4)

80 With the New York Times playing the part of Lucy, I'm sure they can get Charlie GOP to think Jeb Bush is their best chance for a win.

Posted by: t-bird at February 05, 2014 10:29 AM (FcR7P)

81 No. More. Dynasties.

No more Kennedys.
No more Clintons.
No more Bushes.
Enough!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 05, 2014 10:29 AM (POpqt)

82 Yeah, if the GOP wants to end it's misery I'll be glad to help.  Nominate Jeb and I'll pull the straight ticket D handle.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 05, 2014 10:29 AM (kxSZr)

83 Bush v. Clinton II: This Time, It's Personal

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 05, 2014 10:29 AM (8ZskC)

84 If the GOP establishment's moderation were carbon dioxide, Global Warming would be real. Well, it certainly smells like methane.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 10:29 AM (PYAXX)

85 Jeb Bush for President is the worst idea I've heard in the last 45 seconds, when I learned that George Zimmerman is supposedly boxing some rapper named DMX in a charity boxing match. Reported as straight, but could be Onion-ish, I saw it on a secondary site and couldn't bear to investigate further.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 05, 2014 10:30 AM (ZshNr)

86 Hooray for monarchy! I serve House Bush. Death on House Clinton and House Lannister!

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 05, 2014 10:30 AM (tmzN0)

87 Big Whigs Hey, leave us out of it. We've gotten a few dogcatchers elected so far, but that's about it. We're not responsible for ANY of this shit.

Posted by: The Whigs at February 05, 2014 10:30 AM (7ObY1)

88 62 triple double-dog dare face palm Posted by: MikeH at February 05, 2014 02:25 PM (cYaNh) Nobody does a triple double dog dare! Posted by: EC at February 05, 2014 02:28 PM (GQ8sn) I know I created a slight breach of etiquette by skipping the triple dare and going right for the throat!

Posted by: MikeH at February 05, 2014 10:30 AM (cYaNh)

89
Screwed just barely scratches the surface.



Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 05, 2014 10:30 AM (BZAd3)

90 OK better shovel, I guess.

Posted by: Bigby's Germy Hands at February 05, 2014 10:30 AM (KgN8K)

91 "There needs to be a global understanding and a real global effort. There’s no global effort whatsoever.” Global understanding: It's bullshit with a side order of human hubris.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 05, 2014 10:30 AM (659DL)

92

Why are we focusing so tightly on 2016.  Isn't there some other  political event that happens before then?   This is one of the reasons DC is so fucked up.  The campaigning never stops.  2016 is a long time from now, and the SCOAMT isn't done with the destruction. 

 

By the time the presidential election cycle starts, there might not be much left of this country  to argue over.

 

And I agree with a commentor upthread.  They're  floating all the RINOs first to see if they can fool some conservatives.

Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2014 10:30 AM (WLKl0)

93 Jeb Bush may well get fewer popular votes than any major party candidate in history -- without accounting for population growth.

Posted by: SFGoth at February 05, 2014 10:31 AM (nptiF)

94 fuck that cunt

Posted by: pashmr at February 05, 2014 10:31 AM (3aNC4)

95 Let. It. Burn.

Posted by: blaster at February 05, 2014 10:31 AM (4+AaH)

96 Since everyone alive breathes out carbon, at base a carbon tax is a poll tax. I don't have a problem with poll tax on principle (it's fairer than income tax), but it happens to be unConstitutional. Not that this matters much these days.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 05, 2014 10:31 AM (iQxYV)

97 A little behind the curve on that global warming issue?

Where do they find these fucking idiots working from 5 year old talking points?

Fucking retards. (insert joke about sex with retarded people here)

Posted by: Dang at February 05, 2014 10:31 AM (MNq6o)

98 *insert string of blasphemous, obscene language here*

Posted by: Insomniac at February 05, 2014 10:31 AM (UAMVq)

99 Jeb Bush for President is the worst idea I've heard in the last 45 seconds, when I learned that George Zimmerman is supposedly boxing some rapper named DMX in a charity boxing match. Reported as straight, but could be Onion-ish, I saw it on a secondary site and couldn't bear to investigate further.


I heard it too.

Does DMX realize Zimmerman's record is 1-0?


Posted by: EC at February 05, 2014 10:31 AM (GQ8sn)

100 The dream primary would be where multiple establishment candidates split the squish vote and a real conservative makes it through.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 05, 2014 10:31 AM (IN7k+)

101 This detroys AmishDudes theory.

Posted by: flounder at February 05, 2014 10:31 AM (Kkt/i)

102 People in the south just have to understand a lot of republicans don't want a very conservative candidate.

Posted by: N.H. Primary Voter in 2012 at February 05, 2014 10:31 AM (Aif/5)

103 62 triple double-dog dare face palm

Posted by: MikeH at February 05, 2014 02:25 PM (cYaNh)

Nobody does a triple double dog dare!

Posted by: EC at February 05, 2014 02:28 PM (GQ8sn)

Yeah, that'll get you thrown in the barrel.  The clearing barrel.

Posted by: tangonine at February 05, 2014 10:31 AM (x3YFz)

104 Stay out the Bushes.

Posted by: grognard at February 05, 2014 10:32 AM (/29Nl)

105 These are the people who claim when they push moderates that it's all about winning, by the way.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 05, 2014 10:32 AM (tmzN0)

106 Does DMX realize Zimmerman's record is 1-0? EC, you have won the internet and I am going to hell.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 05, 2014 10:32 AM (659DL)

107 There...is..a....notheerrrr

Posted by: CAC at February 05, 2014 10:32 AM (dMRye)

108 Either this country aims to be a meritocracy or it doesn't. I also wasn't that impressed with the last Bush. We dont need another one.

Posted by: AD at February 05, 2014 10:32 AM (tgz/6)

109 There is no reason to participate in a system that has two leftist parties bent on national suicide. Time for something new.

Posted by: Golem_Master at February 05, 2014 10:32 AM (i6/+j)

110 Does DMX realize Zimmerman's record is 1-0? I don't think Zimmerman gets to bring his 9mm this time.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 05, 2014 10:32 AM (UAMVq)

111 The Clintons and Bushs need to go fuck themselves fifteen ways south of Belize.

Posted by: Fritz at February 05, 2014 10:33 AM (UzPAd)

112

The word  "global"  has became hateful to my ears.

 

And green.  I  hate  that f'ing word.

Posted by: eleven at February 05, 2014 10:33 AM (fsLdt)

113 I've got just three words...

Nearly $18 trillion in debt.

Over $127 trillion in unfunded liabilities.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 05, 2014 10:33 AM (BZAd3)

114 Since everyone alive breathes out carbon, at base a carbon tax is a poll tax. Errr... no. A poll tax is a tax one pays to be able to vote. A carbon tax would be a capitation tax (a head tax), which taxes you simply for being alive. But we've already got one of those in the 404Care Individual Mandate, and SCOTUS gave it the Seal (or-or-or!) of approval.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 10:33 AM (PYAXX)

115 Who do you think has shot more people, GZ or a successful rapper?

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 05, 2014 10:33 AM (ZshNr)

116 Does DMX realize Zimmerman's record is 1-0? _______ Now THAT was funny.

Posted by: shredded chi - cereal killer at February 05, 2014 10:33 AM (u8vcQ)

117 115 Who do you think has shot more people, GZ or a successful rapper? Good point.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 05, 2014 10:34 AM (tmzN0)

118 "Jeb Bush"

Stopped reading immediately after those two words.

DO NOT WANT.

The Bush family are the ones who were handed the enormously valuable Reagan legacy and promptly flushed it down the toilet.

Bush The Lesser paved the way for the rise to power of Bill Clinton. The second Bush, Bush The Lesser Still, paved the way for the rise to power of Barack Obama.

Enough of that. No more.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 05, 2014 10:34 AM (gqT4g)

119 I will vote for Hillary before I will put up with another Bush in the White House. The first two have fucked up conservatism enough, thank you very much.

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 05, 2014 10:34 AM (bb5+k)

120 Does DMX realize Zimmerman's record is 1-0 No guns in boxing. Z-man wasn't doing too well during the actual fighting part of it. But personally, I think Zimmerman and DMX (whoever the fuck that is) should go at it Monday Night Rehabilitation style.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 05, 2014 10:34 AM (7ObY1)

121 Didn't John Quincy have a little brother? It's probably his turn. What about Nancy Reagan? How come we skipped over he, you mysoginistic bastardsr?

Posted by: Dynasty Scorekeeper at February 05, 2014 10:34 AM (F58x4)

122 just returned the RNC survey and plea for bucks. Told them that Boner and Ryan want Obamalite. Also told them as long as Boner is speaker not one more dime. Yeah, I can see donating to the Jeb Bush campaign. NOT

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at February 05, 2014 10:34 AM (HVff2)

123 107 There...is..a....notheerrrr

Posted by: CAC at February 05, 2014 02:32 PM (dMRye)


Hey, if we could get a young Princess Leia to run GOP, especially with the slave costume, she would cruise to victory!

Posted by: joncelli at February 05, 2014 10:34 AM (RD7QR)

124 NEWS FLASH I've been checking out various lefty sites. New Euphemism Alert! First there was Global Warming. When that didn't pan out, they switched to Climate Change. But when they failed to arose general panic due to being too wishy-washy, as I noted in some reports last year the cutting-edge enviro-groups started using Climate Chaos which is a lot like "change," but more panicky and hysterical, and thus more effective. But maybe -- too hysterical to be taken seriously? Hence, it's time to fine-tune that euphemism one more time, to the perfect level of not-wishy-wishy and not-overly-hysterical. Something like... http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2014/01/25/18749757.php CLIMATE UNCERTAINTY "Thriving Resilient Communities: Adapting to Climate Uncertainty from Cuba to California How might we have food resilience amongst climate uncertainty? What might we in California learn from Cuba's pioneering initiatives in food and farming? This November a delegation of permaculture designers, farmers, and global citizens converged in Cuba for the 11th International Permaculture Convergence to explore these questions, and discover solutions to our collective problems." Look for this phrase to creep into the language over the next year. You heard it here first!

Posted by: zombie at February 05, 2014 10:34 AM (+cx5n)

125 Ahh, but Jeb Bush that's... that's where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with... geometric logic... that a Jeb Bush path to the White House DID exist, and I'd have produced that path if they hadn't of pulled the me out of action. I, I, I know now they were only trying to protect some fellow pollsters...

Posted by: Karl Rove at February 05, 2014 10:35 AM (cYaNh)

126 Posted by: CAC at February 05, 2014 02:32 PM (dMRye) There are a bunch of others. I'm pretty sure a retarded sea-urchin* would be a better president than Jeb Bush. *-No offense towards, or defamation of, sea-urchins is intended by this comment.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 10:35 AM (PYAXX)

127 Uncle Jeb will keep the seat warm for me!!

Posted by: George P. Bush at February 05, 2014 10:35 AM (POpqt)

128 Off damn bold!

Posted by: zombie at February 05, 2014 10:35 AM (+cx5n)

129 How come we skipped over he, you mysoginistic bastardsr? David Eisenhower and Julie Nixon are still around, right?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 05, 2014 10:35 AM (659DL)

130

Romney is not back to thinking anything.  His position has always remained the same.  

 

I disagree  with his general statement on global warming  but   he has  always indicated  that he cannot say for sure whether global warming is man made or not but that any steps to reduce GW  cannot be at the expense of the economy and that the USA  should  not be the focus when other countries are allowed to continue  with no restrictions.

 

 

DrewM may in the future write the best post ever written on the blogosphere but I'll miss it because this is the last post of his I will read.     

Posted by: polynikes at February 05, 2014 10:36 AM (m2CN7)

131 If I hear any more good news today I think my heart will just spontaneously stop beating from an overdose of joy. /sarc

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 05, 2014 10:36 AM (SwHqo)

132 Dang It's b/c their aides are pimply 25 yr olds with poli sci degrees and the right family connections. Our policies are largely a product of privileged kids, not experienced knowledgable adults.

Posted by: Y-not aka t-shirt at February 05, 2014 10:36 AM (zDsvJ)

133 How does Compassionate "Compassionate Conservatism" sound? I pledge to offer a slightly less evil than the mildy less evil version of conservatism (which we all know is basically evil at it's core) that my brother offered. It's important that we start by recognizing that our base is mostly made up of evil, uncaring racists that hate children and vagina-americans. And we build from there by pointing to all of the things we aren't totally super evil about. Most of us don't beat our own children, for example. That's something I intend to highlight.

Posted by: Jeb Bush at February 05, 2014 10:36 AM (ZPrif)

134 122 just returned the RNC survey and plea for bucks. Told them that Boner and Ryan want Obamalite. Also told them as long as Boner is speaker not one more dime.

Yeah, I can see donating to the Jeb Bush campaign. NOT

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at February 05, 2014 02:34 PM (HVff2)

I just got out a Sharpie and wrote "LOL!" in 4 inch letters and mailed it back.

Posted by: tangonine at February 05, 2014 10:36 AM (x3YFz)

135 Posted by: zombie at February 05, 2014 02:34 PM (+cx5n) We don't know what's going to happen or why! So give us all your money! *head desk*

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 10:36 AM (PYAXX)

136 Someday I will get my chance.

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at February 05, 2014 10:36 AM (6bMeY)

137 81 No. More. Dynasties.

No more Kennedys.
No more Clintons.
No more Bushes.
Enough!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 05, 2014 02:29 PM (POpqt)


No shit!  This says something about the state of our democracy and none of it is good.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 05, 2014 10:36 AM (BZAd3)

138 I disagree. There is nothing moderate about Jeb Bush. He is a raging liberal Republican.

Posted by: The Awkward-Turtle at February 05, 2014 10:37 AM (hcbCT)

139 It isn't over yet! Guam hasn't reported!

Posted by: Karl Rove at February 05, 2014 10:37 AM (tmzN0)

140 One of the more profound things W said was that he inherited half his father's friends and all of his enemies. W didn't leave the White House with a lot of friends but had a ton of enemies. That's not a good start for Jeb, no matter how much money he raises and how much goodwill he has with the Old Boy's Club.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 05, 2014 10:37 AM (/Crba)

141 Why lose one election for your party when you can lose many? Thanks RINOs.

Posted by: garrett at February 05, 2014 10:37 AM (KsP9i)

142 And Jeb's son is moving into politics yet Jeb, who doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of being elected, can't sit his ass down for the sake of his son's future. Vanity run amok.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2014 10:37 AM (DmNpO)

143 Hurry up, mom, I want it to be my turn soon!
I'm almost old enough and I've got 'lost of experience, you know. Dad's got me preparing for this at his Global Initiative.

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at February 05, 2014 10:37 AM (POpqt)

144 We don't know what's going to happen or why! So give us all your money! *head desk* Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. But one thing's for sure: Socialism is the solution! We look to Cuba for answers!

Posted by: zombie at February 05, 2014 10:37 AM (+cx5n)

145 Oh, that darn Mitt. Gosh darn, he would have made a heck of a president. We would have seen a "fix" of Obamacare, he would have put in a nice crippling cap and trade policy and had a really neat amnesty program already in place.

Posted by: Duke at February 05, 2014 02:26 PM (d3clc)

 

 

---------------------------------------------

 

 

And JeffB and Hollowpoint said he was soooooo electable.

Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2014 10:38 AM (WLKl0)

146 Donald Fagen For President NOW!!!

Posted by: dananjcon at February 05, 2014 10:38 AM (NpXoL)

147 IT'S JEB'S TURN!!!!!

Posted by: --- at February 05, 2014 10:38 AM (MMC8r)

148 No guns in boxing.

Z-man wasn't doing too well during the actual fighting part of it.

But personally, I think Zimmerman and DMX (whoever the fuck that is) should go at it Monday Night Rehabilitation style.


How hard is it to conceal a Kel-tec PF-9 in a boxing glove?


When Zimmerman is getting knocked around again, he'll start having flashbacks and whip out "Trayvon's Bane".

Posted by: EC at February 05, 2014 10:38 AM (GQ8sn)

149 Zombie You started t Your list off incorrectly. I'm still pretty young (and handsome) and can remember : Global Cooling

Posted by: shredded chi - cereal killer at February 05, 2014 10:38 AM (u8vcQ)

150 But one thing's for sure: Socialism is the solution! We look to Cuba for answers! They have a killer health care system!

Posted by: Michael Moore at February 05, 2014 10:38 AM (UAMVq)

151 If the republican establishments goal is to lose gracefully in 2014 and 2016... then they are doing a hell of a job with all these fig leafs to the democrats when they are on the ropes with Obamacare. What's the saying again.... politics ain't beanbag or some shit.... Sweep the leg! You c*cksucking pussy GOPers.

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at February 05, 2014 10:38 AM (B/3gr)

152 Oooops, wrong thread, blog, era.



 

Posted by: dananjcon at February 05, 2014 10:38 AM (NpXoL)

153

"Hey Conservatives! Are You Ready To Nominate One Of Your Own For President? Too Bad Because The Hottest New Establishment Darling Is....Jeb Bush.

Aaaaaaaaand get ready for  POTUS  Hillary!

The inevitable result if Jeb Bush is the Republican nominee.

Posted by: Marmo at February 05, 2014 10:39 AM (QW+AD)

154 I STILL like Ike!

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 05, 2014 10:39 AM (kxSZr)

155 BZZZZZZZZZZZT *jabs Jeb with sanity prod* Move along, sir.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 05, 2014 10:39 AM (LP0Fj)

156 Who do you think has shot more people, GZ or a successful rapper? Posted by: Lincolntf at February 05, 2014 02:33 PM (ZshNr) Don't forget football players!

Posted by: Plaxico Burress at February 05, 2014 10:39 AM (659DL)

157 130 Romney is not back to thinking anything. His position has always remained the same.

Posted by: polynikes at February 05, 2014 02:36 PM (m2CN7)



Can't help but think how different things would be now had someone with character won the last election. 

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 05, 2014 10:39 AM (BZAd3)

158 What might we in California learn from Cuba's pioneering initiatives in food and farming? So what CAN the world's fresh fruit and vegetable basket learn from a backwards communist shithole? Jeebus, we really are starting to get way too many Onion/reality convergences.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 05, 2014 10:39 AM (659DL)

159

 Oh, that darn Mitt. Gosh darn, he would have made a heck of a president. We would have seen a "fix" of Obamacare, he would have put in a nice crippling cap and trade policy and had a really neat amnesty program already in place.
Posted by: Duke at February 05, 2014 02:26 PM (d3clc)

 

DrewM plays you guys like a fiddle. 

Posted by: polynikes at February 05, 2014 10:40 AM (m2CN7)

160 Anyone who doesn't laugh at the idea of global warming doesn't get my vote.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 05, 2014 10:40 AM (q5wSU)

161 I'm pale, I'm exhausted, and I'm ready!

Posted by: Hillary! at February 05, 2014 10:40 AM (RD7QR)

162 Re GZ and DMX: F. Bill McMorris ‏@FBillMcMorris 2h DMX will box George Zimmerman. Luckily it's not MMA. Zimmerman's got no ground and pound defense

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2014 10:40 AM (DmNpO)

163 Sweep the leg! You c*cksucking pussy GOPers. You know... that guy lost. Just sayin'. OTOH, I remember a commercial for the first Resident Evil wherein a pumpkin with a markered-on zombie face was placed on the ground, and then a foot in a combat boot stomped on it and crushed it. I believe that's much better imagery.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 10:40 AM (PYAXX)

164 even if they’re intellectually capable of it,” wow go fuck yourself

Posted by: thunderb at February 05, 2014 10:40 AM (zOTsN)

165 ROTFL!!!

Posted by: Still no sign of sig at February 05, 2014 10:40 AM (q177U)

166 Plaxico gets an asterisk because it was a Selfie.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 05, 2014 10:40 AM (ZshNr)

167 Which is to say- I vote we change "sweep the leg" to "zombie stomp the head."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 10:40 AM (PYAXX)

168 "CLIMATE UNCERTAINTY"

Is that anything like "Food Insecurity"? It replaced hunger a few years ago. Apparently"1 in 5 children are food insecure" = they got 1 in 5 kids surveyed to claim they went to bed hungry **once** in the past year.
Not exactly starving in the streets.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 05, 2014 10:41 AM (POpqt)

169 Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2014 02:38 PM (WLKl0) Mitt Romney: the man who doubted he could win, but kneecapped anybody who ran in the primary.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 05, 2014 10:41 AM (tmzN0)

170 CLIMATE UNCERTAINTY

Then...

Weather Wackiness

Outdoor Shenanigans

Climate Kerfufel

World War Weather




Posted by: Dang at February 05, 2014 10:41 AM (MNq6o)

171 151
If the republican establishments goal is to lose gracefully in 2014 and 2016... then they are doing a hell of a job with all these fig leafs to the democrats when they are on the ropes with Obamacare.

What's the saying again.... politics ain't beanbag or some shit....

Sweep the leg! You c*cksucking pussy GOPers.

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at February 05, 2014 02:38 PM (B/3gr)

benghazi
IRS
Fast and furious
Obamacare

the commies have thrown about 20 interceptions in this game and the GOP keeps running into the wrong end zone.

These idiots could fuck up an anvil.

Posted by: tangonine at February 05, 2014 10:41 AM (x3YFz)

172 The truth is that big government is good for the establishment in both parties and that's the reason we will be left voting for whoever they decide we should vote for in the end.  


Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 05, 2014 10:42 AM (BZAd3)

173 These idiots could fuck up an anvil. That's hot.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at February 05, 2014 10:42 AM (PYAXX)

174
David Struhs, who served six years as the Bush-appointed head of the Florida Department of Environmental Protection, “....the Republican Party, can’t do, even if they’re intellectually capable of it.”




In a related story. David Struhs' mom.

Repeatedly.



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 05, 2014 10:42 AM (kdS6q)

175 Zimmerman won his last fight in one round.


You're laughing.  Admit it.

Posted by: Dang at February 05, 2014 10:42 AM (MNq6o)

176 There is a saying that when a man is shooting holes in your walls, it's pointless to patch the holes until he is disarmed. Meaning, you should vote Republican until the Democrats are out of power. But it just sticks in my craw to have to vote for people who are, in effect, my political enemies. It makes sense to vote for scoundrels who just want to rob me over those who actually want to kill me, but it still bugs the shit out of me to reward them at all.

Posted by: toby928© at February 05, 2014 10:42 AM (QupBk)

177 Now THAT was funny.
Sez you, beeatch! Peruvia sucks!

Posted by: zombie trayvon at February 05, 2014 10:42 AM (LLfr9)

178 Oh, and any mention of the Bush family is incomplete without recalling Bush The Lesser, in the 1980 primaries, deriding Reagan's economic proposals as "voodoo economics" in that nasal preppy whine.

After Bush The Lesser eventually followed Reagan into the Oval Office, and was evicted from that office after only one term by a ridiculous horny hillbilly whose campaign centered on "it's the economy, stupid," I wanted to send Bush a voodoo doll of himself full of pins.

Thought better of it. You never know what the Secret Service may take amiss.

But the sentiment is surely there.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 05, 2014 10:42 AM (gqT4g)

179 "Monkey in the Bush"

Posted by: Ms. Swan at February 05, 2014 10:43 AM (B/3gr)

180 Related for fun: Mitt Romney is back to thinking global warming is a problem. *** It is more the lack of global warming that is the problem right now.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 05, 2014 10:43 AM (M3hAT)

181 and in NJ, Christie just signed a bill to provide 2,000 scholarships to illegals, Viva, Mexico!

Posted by: MikeH at February 05, 2014 10:43 AM (cYaNh)

182 We heartily endorse Jeb!!

Posted by: Conservatives for a Conservative Conservatism at February 05, 2014 10:43 AM (juDHN)

183 It was a TKO. Trayvon Killed Outright.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 05, 2014 10:43 AM (ZshNr)

184 Anyone who doesn't laugh at the idea of global warming doesn't get my vote.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 05, 2014 02:40 PM (q5wSU)

 

Hope you weren't considering DrewMs guy,  Newt Gingrich.    Funny that DrewM would throw in a gratuitous shot at Romney  when his chosen candidate was Gingrich.  

Posted by: polynikes at February 05, 2014 10:43 AM (m2CN7)

185 Is that anything like "Food Insecurity"? It replaced hunger a few years ago. Apparently"1 in 5 children are food insecure" = they got 1 in 5 kids surveyed to claim they went to bed hungry **once** in the past year. We had food insecurity in the late 60's then. I got sent to bed without dinner more than once for doing something stupid.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 05, 2014 10:44 AM (xorT2)

186 He's a Lincoln Chaffee Conservative.

Posted by: --- at February 05, 2014 10:44 AM (MMC8r)

187 It is more the lack of global warming that is the problem right now. You want global warming. You'll take not freezing. You'll get a new glacial advance.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 10:44 AM (PYAXX)

188 There is a saying that when a man is shooting holes in your walls, it's pointless to patch the holes until he is disarmed. Is there a saying about what happens if you say the shooter is a 'fine man' who we should work with?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 05, 2014 10:45 AM (tmzN0)

189

Hope you weren't considering DrewMs guy, Newt Gingrich

-

No, I never supported Gingrich.     Anyone (like him) who tells me that the conservative path is to make government work smarter (not smaller) is useless.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 05, 2014 10:45 AM (q5wSU)

190 nobody wants JEF care no body wants amnesty no body believes in global warming and belief in these three things destroys jobs fuck the "elites" the governing class they are clueless

Posted by: thunderb at February 05, 2014 10:45 AM (zOTsN)

191 The last five years have been a boon to a fairly small group of people on both sides of the political spectrum.  Trillions have seemingly evaporated with absolutely nothing to show for it for the country at large.  Why would they want it to end?

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 05, 2014 10:46 AM (BZAd3)

192 they are clueless You misspelled "traitorous swine."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 10:46 AM (PYAXX)

193 146 Donald Fagen For President NOW!!! _________ Now there's a candidate I can support. The "Chase the Dragon" campaign! But Walter Becker is too stage-shy to be the veep. Who then?

Posted by: shredded chi - cereal killer at February 05, 2014 10:46 AM (u8vcQ)

194 Hey NDH, my list of 10 is at 41. And growing. Could be like an Ace movie review...

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 05, 2014 10:46 AM (LSJmV)

195 "Mitt Romney: the man who doubted he could win, but kneecapped anybody who ran in the primary."

Just once in my life I'd like to have the opportunity to vote for a GOP candidate who hits his Democratic opponent in the general election as hard, or harder, than he hit his Republican opponents in the primaries.

Instead, the last couple of cycles the Republicans have selected someone who goes medieval on the asses of other Republicans during the primaries, and then turns into an agreeable milquetoast when facing a Democrat in the general.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 05, 2014 10:47 AM (gqT4g)

196 >>I'm pale, I'm exhausted, and I'm ready! - Hillary

And lookin' really old and fat, too.
There's a double standard and no amount of screaming "misogynist" or "unfair" changes the fact that Hills looks awful.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 05, 2014 10:47 AM (POpqt)

197 Hope you weren't considering DrewMs guy, Newt Gingrich. Funny that DrewM would throw in a gratuitous shot at Romney when his chosen candidate was Gingrich. I supported Gingrich for one reason: Moon Colony. Seriously, the only way out of our problems is extraterrestrial mining. If we made space cheaper, we'd have virtually unlimited energy and resources.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 05, 2014 10:47 AM (tmzN0)

198 Things are going pretty good for MLS and me.

Posted by: David Beckham at February 05, 2014 10:47 AM (ZPrif)

199

The last five years have been a boon to a fairly small group of people on both sides of the political spectrum. Trillions have seemingly evaporated with absolutely nothing to show for it for the country at large.

-

And ninety percent of them were bundlers.  Each with payback in the seven figures for their donations.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 05, 2014 10:47 AM (q5wSU)

200 154 I STILL like Ike! My BIKE likes Ike.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 05, 2014 10:47 AM (7ObY1)

201

DC is like this little society of criminals that blow each other continuously while providing absolutely nothing to anybody but themselves.

But don't you question Paul or John, they are as conservative as anybody out there.

Fo sho.


Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Christies at February 05, 2014 10:48 AM (xggaJ)

202 I heard it too.Does DMX realize Zimmerman's record is 1-0?
Posted by: EC at February 05, 2014 02:31 PM (GQ8sn)

Now I am picturing them both in the ring, DMX showing off his fancy footwork and mugging for the fans, and suddenly Zimmerman does an Indy Jones, pulls out a gun and shoots him. Thanks for making me laugh AND making me feel like a horrible person.

Posted by: LizLem at February 05, 2014 10:48 AM (BF+2f)

203 So let me get this straight: Dole, Bush (twice), McCain, Romney and now fucking Jeb Bush? If Gore and Kerry hadn't been such shitty candidates, the GOP would be ofer since 1988.

I'm no longer registered as a Republican. If they force Jeb through, I will no longer VOTE Republican. But hey, I'm not a big time donor, so fuck me, right?

Posted by: physics geek at February 05, 2014 10:48 AM (MT22W)

204 "Just once in my life I'd like to have the opportunity to vote for a GOP candidate who hits his Democratic opponent in the general election as hard, or harder, than he hit his Republican opponents in the primaries."


But they won't do that because of... women.  We are SOL.

Posted by: Dang at February 05, 2014 10:48 AM (MNq6o)

205 181 and in NJ, Christie just signed a bill to provide 2,000 scholarships to illegals, Viva, Mexico!

Posted by: MikeH at February 05, 2014 02:43 PM (cYaNh)

Eff the discount. Go straight to giving money away.

Bet the Latinos will now forgive him for Bridgegate.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at February 05, 2014 10:48 AM (gHDMy)

206 Off topic: something pleasant to look at. >.> 


tinyurl.com/l36vuxh

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at February 05, 2014 10:49 AM (AaIQj)

207 Anthropogenic Climate Change IS a problem. It is just not a problem that we can do anything about. Including predict its effects in any way that is specific enough to be useful. I am not an Anthropogenic Climate Change denier. I am not even an Anthropogenic Climate Change skeptic. The overall idea seems reasonable enough to me. What I am is an Anthropogenic Climate Change apathetic. Join us -- the apathetic majority.

Posted by: SL at February 05, 2014 10:50 AM (/RTvI)

208 Food and liquor are never OT.

Posted by: toby928© at February 05, 2014 10:50 AM (QupBk)

209 DrewM is messing with our heads, man.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 05, 2014 10:50 AM (8ZskC)

210

It is February 2014.  The nomination is two years away.    So it is time to panic.

 

 

Alright everyone...1...2...3!

 

 

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! *runs around in circles with hair on fire*

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Innuendoes for Both Men and Women at the Outrage Outlet! at February 05, 2014 10:50 AM (hLRSq)

211 "It was a TKO. Trayvon Killed Outright."

This machine has a spill resistant keyboard. Otherwise I'd be sending you a demand to pay up for a replacement. As it is I have to go get more coffee. And blow my nose.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 05, 2014 10:50 AM (gqT4g)

212 Off topic: something pleasant to look at. >.>


tinyurl.com/l36vuxh
Posted by: Kinley Ardal


Probably full of trans fat.

Posted by: Dang at February 05, 2014 10:50 AM (MNq6o)

213 Jeb Bush..... Hmmmm..... good thing the name Bush doesn't carry any baggage along with it.... Also, I wonder if the media will make hay out of his thoughts on Hispanics and how they are all fertile and shit.... nah, they wouldn't stoop low like that.... Jeb is totes electable you guys. Syrias.

Posted by: Totes Conservative statagists in the GOP at February 05, 2014 10:50 AM (B/3gr)

214
BTW -- CNN had a poll this week with Hillary beating Jeb by 20%.

But, you know, electable.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 05, 2014 10:50 AM (kdS6q)

215 Mitt Romney: the man who doubted he could win, but kneecapped anybody who ran in the primary. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 05, 2014 02:41 PM (tmzN0) If only he could have been so vicious in attacking Obama.

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 05, 2014 10:51 AM (bb5+k)

216 Did I just read that title right?

Sandra's fluke pulls out?

Some images...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 05, 2014 10:51 AM (NNjb2)

217 The word "global" has became hateful to my ears. And green. I hate that f'ing word. It ain't easy!

Posted by: Kermit T Frog at February 05, 2014 10:51 AM (aA2hG)

218

Off topic: something pleasant to look at. >.>


tinyurl.com/l36vuxh

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Posted by: Kinley Ardal


Probably full of trans fat.

-

 

So, it is another Upton pic?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 05, 2014 10:51 AM (q5wSU)

219 I'm good.

Posted by: Paul Ryan's Excellent DC Future at February 05, 2014 10:52 AM (5ikDv)

220 Watch the MyRA thing start to catch wind.  My bet is that the repubs will even start lining up behind it.  With China saying they won't be buying anymore of our debt, someone is going to have to do it.  You watch,  there will be a push to govt mandated savings and you will be purchasing treasuries for 1% interest.  That'll be your govt sponsored nest egg.  And...

you'll probably be taxed on top of that.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 05, 2014 10:52 AM (BZAd3)

221 Yesterday no snow, today a shitton. If that ain't Climate Change I don't know what is.

Posted by: mugiwara at February 05, 2014 10:52 AM (3a584)

222

DrewM is messing with our heads, man.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 05, 2014 02:50 PM (8ZskC)

 

 

You think so?  I don't.  Nearly every post being on Republican Perfidy only proves exactly how dastardly and nefarious the evil powers of the RINO establishment actually are.   How they plot our doom.   I think it is excellent forewarning.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Innuendoes for Both Men and Women at the Outrage Outlet! at February 05, 2014 10:52 AM (hLRSq)

223 Cut Mitt some slack. Doesn't he live in CA now, so he wouldn't know how badly the warming globe is inflicting the rest of us at the moment. Will they never learn? Republicans - always attacking issues no one cares about. Very astute party, no?

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at February 05, 2014 10:52 AM (r+7wo)

224 When will Chelsea be old enough?

The Week "It's over. Jeb Bush will be the Gop Nominee."
http://tinyurl.com/n2uuq3q

If he can read a speech like Obama, I could vote for him.

We should be looking at his speech writers.
John McCain could read a pretty good speech. He had me cheering. Once.

Posted by: Justin Lately Jr at February 05, 2014 10:52 AM (nQE02)

225 "Good Faith Effort" is now Washington-speak for "It don't work for shit, but hey, we tried."

Posted by: Daniel Simpson Day at February 05, 2014 10:52 AM (aA2hG)

226 Hey NDH, my list of 10 is at 41. And growing. Could be like an Ace movie review... *** DUDE!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2014 10:52 AM (DmNpO)

227 >>Hillary beating Jeb by 20%.

Wasn't Christie polling above Hillary a while back, and then -*boom* - scandal!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 05, 2014 10:53 AM (POpqt)

228 Jeb Bush? Why, is Scott Brown unavailable?

Posted by: RobM1981 at February 05, 2014 10:53 AM (zurJC)

229 << “If you think global warming is just in America..." - Mitt Romney>>

This is a perfect example of how the republican elite think the rest of us are just too stupid; we don't know the difference between 'global' and 'America'.

Cause we're just dumb conservatives.

Posted by: SGT York at February 05, 2014 10:53 AM (FL9pc)

230 Posted by: SL at February 05, 2014 02:50 PM (/RTvI)

It's the anthropogenic part I disagree with.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at February 05, 2014 10:53 AM (gHDMy)

231 Thanks for making me laugh AND making me feel like a horrible person.

Posted by: LizLem at February 05, 2014 02:48 PM (BF+2f)



I didn't make #4 commentor for all of 2013 for nuthin!!!



Posted by: EC at February 05, 2014 10:53 AM (GQ8sn)

232 Maybe mining some exotic materials in Space during our lifetimes, but for anything terrestrial, far more efficient to declare vast swaths as "mineral extraction zones" or whatever half of Russia is designated as, and just digging and blasting and ripping through endless earth wherever you please. I've always hoped that one of the private companies would go to the moon, or even Mars, and come back and tell us that the Governments have been hiding the fact that there are gems, platinum, the rare elements used for advancing tech, etc. on the surface of the moon. That stuff would be worth it.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 05, 2014 10:53 AM (ZshNr)

233 You want global warming. You'll take not freezing. You'll get a new glacial advance. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 02:44 PM (PYAXX) It's funny because it's true! *clambers up on medium size soapbox* Why the hell does everything environmental have to be oh noes we are destroying the whole world eleventy! A clean environment, by which I mean clean air and clean drinking water and lack of radiation unless I can turn into a super heroine in which case point me to the vat baby, is a good thing. Why the actual fuck can we not discuss that, hey, maybe dumping chemical waste into the river is suboptimal and ho there maybe we should clean out that underbrush before everything burns down and gosh golly gee whilikers maybe we should open up land to development instead of forcing people to build vertically on a hillside that is one tenth of inch of rain away from mudsliding off without it turning into we must all live in caves for Gaia! How about, yes, we should save critters where we can but we shouldn't destroy humanity in doing so? How about recognizing that golden rice is a miracle? How about having a real evaluation of the relative environmentally friendly nature of nukes v. wind v. solar v. natural gas v. oil? How about, idefk, acting like grown ups? How about that, hmmm? *carefully clambers down*

Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us, oh mighty SMOD at February 05, 2014 10:53 AM (VtjlW)

234 Amnesty and the "Third Term of Bush" for the Democrats to run on?

Remind me again which side the GOP-e is on?

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 05, 2014 10:53 AM (VjL9S)

235 I would vote democrat rather than vote for the son and brother of a former president.  Its incestuous and royalist and shows a really crappy dearth of talent or access on the Republican side.  not just no, but hell no.

Posted by: Don't make me go Roundhead. at February 05, 2014 10:53 AM (P+fpB)

236 They run this guy and it's clear they're absolutely trying to lose. Who is paying them to lose?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 05, 2014 10:54 AM (oFCZn)

237 Just no. 

I don't have any long, snark-filled rant.  Just, please.  No. 

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 05, 2014 10:54 AM (fwARV)

238 172 The truth is that big government is good for the establishment in both parties and that's the reason we will be left voting for whoever they decide we should vote for in the end. Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 05, 2014 02:42 PM (BZAd3) I fear you are right. The problem has become institutionalized in the Republican party too, and now we have no one with any desire to control the growth or appetite of the beast.

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 05, 2014 10:54 AM (bb5+k)

239 Join us -- the apathetic majority. ----------- Sure, if/when I get around to it.

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 05, 2014 10:54 AM (PFy0L)

240 I've always hoped that one of the private companies would go to the moon, or even Mars, and come back and tell us that the Governments have been hiding the fact that there are gems, platinum, the rare elements used for advancing tech, etc. on the surface of the moon. That stuff would be worth it.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 05, 2014 02:53 PM (ZshNr)



Unobtanium?



Posted by: EC at February 05, 2014 10:54 AM (GQ8sn)

241 "I'm in the camp now where I don't think they do. They understand it quite well and want nothing more than to jettison it so they can turn to port.
Posted by: dogfish at February 05, 2014 02:26 PM"

what he said: the Beltway RINOs have no incentive to win, and every reason to defend the status quo they profit from...

why would they want to upset a balance that personally benefits them?

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 05, 2014 10:55 AM (q+fqH)

242 I'm in favor of single payer, global warming action by a world authority, higher taxes, expanded safety nets and federal control of education. Unlike the Democrats though, I wear red neckties, and that issue will engine my campaign.

Posted by: Jeb Bush at February 05, 2014 10:55 AM (F58x4)

243 Here you go , Jeb.

*hands over copy of concession speech*


 You'll need this.

Posted by: Mitt Romney [/i][/b] at February 05, 2014 10:55 AM (5ikDv)

244 Hey, remember how the Left always said America sucks cause we spent more on evil defense spending than the rest of the world combined? Good news! That's no longer true. We only spend 1/3rd of global defense spending now. China spends around 10% of the global total and growing fast. By 2015 China is expected to spending more than UK, France, and Germany combined.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 05, 2014 10:55 AM (ZPrif)

245 Cut Mitt some slack. Doesn't he live in CA now, so he wouldn't know how badly the warming globe is inflicting the rest of us at the moment. Will they never learn? Republicans - always attacking issues no one cares about. Very astute party, no? Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at February 05, 2014 02:52 PM (r+7wo) 1. Fuck Mitt and his wife's horse he rode in on. 2. Astute Party? That's nicer than saying the Fucking Dumb Party. 3. Will they ever learn? Probably not.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at February 05, 2014 10:55 AM (HVff2)

246 I can't wait for Jeb to bash conservatives during the primaries and general. And then lose to Sir Edmund or Lieawatha or whomever.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at February 05, 2014 10:55 AM (r+7wo)

247 >>>> Republicans should pound on Democrats harder than each other.

"But they won't do that because of... women."

I keep hearing that crap. The consultants always claim that women want "nice" candidates who are polite and meek and work towards compromise.

I also keep noticing in the dating world, women invariably say they want to date "nice" guys, yet at the end of the night, they quite frequently leave with the rude bad boy.

As a female friend observed, "Men waste a huge amount of time trying to figure out what women want. Meanwhile, women themselves don't know what they want."

Posted by: torquewrench at February 05, 2014 10:55 AM (gqT4g)

248 >>How about, idefk, acting like grown ups? How about that, hmmm?

Uh, because there's no money in doing that.

Posted by: The Democrats at February 05, 2014 10:56 AM (POpqt)

249 I like Bevin.  I think he can beat McConnell.  I'm going to start sending him money.

Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2014 10:56 AM (WLKl0)

250 #207 SL

Show me the proof.  I believe in climate change, because  climate  changes.  Anthropogenic global warming  because of man-made CO2, though?  Show me the scientific proof.

Posted by: Marmo at February 05, 2014 10:56 AM (QW+AD)

251 Instead, the last couple of cycles the Republicans have selected someone who goes medieval on the asses of other Republicans during the primaries, and then turns into an agreeable milquetoast when facing a Democrat in the general. Posted by: torquewrench at February 05, 2014 02:47 PM (gqT4g) There must be an explanation for it, and the only thing I can think of at the moment is fear of the Liberal media. They never have to worry about the Media when they are attacking conservative candidates.

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 05, 2014 10:56 AM (bb5+k)

252 BoooOOOOooooOOOOOooooOOOooSSSSSHHHH!!11!!11!

Posted by: obligatory[/i][/b] at February 05, 2014 10:57 AM (5ikDv)

253 BS. I have it on perfectly good authority, a Huffpo/Abc or some other such Soros funded organ; that Marco Rubeo, having completed re-education 101 is now, just yesterday the new establishment anointed.

Beat that pole dance er poll.
My mind temporarily went into the gutter.
Half of it anyway.

Posted by: Tortuga at February 05, 2014 10:57 AM (FmyWU)

254 Climate uncertainty, aka, climate unpredictability, aka, weather.

Posted by: flounder at February 05, 2014 10:57 AM (Kkt/i)

255 What might we in California learn from Cuba's pioneering initiatives in food and farming?

Ummmm........How to starve?

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at February 05, 2014 10:57 AM (F26eZ)

256 SL Scientific reality is not determined by what seems reasonable. It's determined by experimental data. The AGW crowd's dataset - the stuff they haven't effin list, that is! - is crap. Thus, their models are crap. Garbage in, garbage out. So, speaking as a scientist who has worked on complex systems, i DO reject their assertion that man has changed the Earth's climate. They have not proven that. There are plenty of reasons to study climatology and the ability of living things to adapt to it. And there are good reasons to limit pollution. But these pols who "feel" tge need to accept - or even not challenge- the AGW crowd's premise are lazy and stupid.

Posted by: Y-not aka t-shirt at February 05, 2014 10:57 AM (zDsvJ)

257 I'd settle for Adamantium or Vibranium.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 05, 2014 10:57 AM (ZshNr)

258

Why the hell does everything environmental have to be oh noes we are destroying the whole world eleventy! A clean environment, by which I mean clean air and clean drinking water and lack of radiation unless I can turn into a super heroine in which case point me to the vat baby, is a good thing.

-

Amen.  Set up some basic guidelines about damaging the environment, and sue the hell out of anyone who violates them.  Prior restraint is too big and we can't afford it.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 05, 2014 10:57 AM (q5wSU)

259 If Jeb Bush wins a single primary, you know that to be the definitive sign that the fix is in, and may act accordingly.

Because there's no fucking way that'd be any more legitimate than any of Saddam Hussein's 99% reelections.

Posted by: grognard at February 05, 2014 10:58 AM (/29Nl)

260 How about, yes, we should save critters where we can but we shouldn't destroy humanity in doing so? How about recognizing that golden rice is a miracle?

How about having a real evaluation of the relative environmentally friendly nature of nukes v. wind v. solar v. natural gas v. oil?

How about, idefk, acting like grown ups? How about that, hmmm?


*carefully clambers down*

Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us, oh mighty SMOD at February 05, 2014 02:53 PM (VtjlW)

 

That is exactly Romney's position and when he says,  GW is not only in America , he is referring to global economics and that any restrictions cannot  just be focused on the United States. 

Posted by: polynikes at February 05, 2014 10:58 AM (m2CN7)

261 I fully agree with Ipecac (sp?) that the hockey stick is real and it is human caused and that climate change is imminent,  unstoppable, irreversible,  and accelerating.   Only they have yet to stumble across the accurate title,  Climate Improvement.

Posted by: Don't make me go Roundhead. at February 05, 2014 10:58 AM (P+fpB)

262 I didn't make #4 commentor for all of 2013 for nuthin!


And you're now a shoo-in for "Best Gratuitously Offensive But Funny Riff On A Great National Tragedy" Award for 2014.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 05, 2014 10:58 AM (8ZskC)

263 Over 50 percent of voters polled STILL blame Bush for the current shitty economy and the Establishment STILL thinks that Hillary and the MSM won't STILL tell the LIV's that all would be skittles and unicorns if not for the malevolent curse of BOOOSH? The Establishment Heart Wants What It Wants, I guess

Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2014 10:59 AM (aTXUx)

264 Anthropogenic Climate Change IS a problem. Excuse me, but bullfucking shit. Next.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 05, 2014 10:59 AM (659DL)

265 And you're now a shoo-in for "Best Gratuitously Offensive But Funny Riff On A Great National Tragedy" Award for 2014.


*scoops up various awards off the ground*


These will be worth something in the Burning Times!!!


Posted by: EC at February 05, 2014 10:59 AM (GQ8sn)

266 We fought two fucking wars to avoid a monarchial system.  Is the GOP truly claiming that a mere 250 years later, they've decided that a monarchy is indeed the best way to run things?

If yes, I'll be upstairs, cleaning my weapon and loading magazines.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 05, 2014 10:59 AM (fwARV)

267 2013 Defense Spending 1 USA 582B 2 China 139B 3 Russia 69B 4 UK 59B 5 Japan 57B 6 France 53B 7 India 46B 8 Germany 45B 9 Saudi Arabia 43B 10 Korea,South 32B ... 14 Turkey 21B 16 Taiwan 15B 19 Israel 13B

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 05, 2014 10:59 AM (ZPrif)

268 Anthropogenic Climate Change IS a problem. No it's not, unless "Anthropogenic" has suddenly started meaning "Natural." Oh, also- not a "problem." The earth has supported life at temperatures both significantly higher and lower than current global norms/averages. It will continue to do so (sans Jesus returning, or the sun dying/going nova) for millennia to come. Warmer temperatures indicate a longer growing season, and more abundant food, which is generally a good thing. Colder temperatures aren't so good (and it looks like we're entering a phase of cooling, given the actual temperature numbers), but mankind will, I'm sure, find a way to cope. To accept either the "Anthropogenic" or "problem" portions of climate hysteria, one must choose to be completely ignorant of actual history.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 11:01 AM (PYAXX)

269

They run this guy and it's clear they're absolutely trying to lose. Who is paying them to lose?

 

Soros?

Posted by: Infidel at February 05, 2014 11:01 AM (cojT9)

270 i won't vote for jeb.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 22 days until spring training at February 05, 2014 11:01 AM (u8GsB)

271 Has anyone heard from Ace?  I hope he is okay. 

Posted by: grammie winger at February 05, 2014 11:01 AM (P6QsQ)

272 2013 Defense Spending
1 USA 582B



Makes you wonder where it's all going.

Posted by: EC at February 05, 2014 11:01 AM (GQ8sn)

273 They run this guy and it's clear they're absolutely trying to lose. Who is paying them to lose?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 05, 2014 02:54 PM (oFCZn)

 

 

--------------------------------------------------

 

 

That's easy.  The democrats.  It's all a scam  inside the  beltway.  Everyone's getting rich beyond their wildest dreams.  Why do we not have any evidence of "stimulus" spending  outside of DC.  We know now.

Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2014 11:01 AM (WLKl0)

274 "I've always hoped that one of the private companies would go to the moon, or even Mars, and come back and tell us that the Governments have been hiding the fact that there are gems, platinum, the rare elements used for advancing tech, etc. on the surface of the moon."

Dr. Harrison Schmitt actually has gone to the Moon, and he'll tell anyone who listens that it's a huge reservoir of Helium-3, which if available in quantity makes getting commercial fusion power going on Earth a hell of a lot easier.

Collective response in America: ::yawn:: Who? Didn't we fake that landing on the moon stuff anyway? Pass the bong and the Cheetos, man.

Collective response in China: We're so there. ::frantic building sounds commence::

Posted by: torquewrench at February 05, 2014 11:02 AM (gqT4g)

275 207 Anthropogenic Climate Change IS a problem. It is just not a problem that we can do anything about. Including predict its effects in any way that is specific enough to be useful. I am not an Anthropogenic Climate Change denier. I am not even an Anthropogenic Climate Change skeptic. The overall idea seems reasonable enough to me. What I am is an Anthropogenic Climate Change apathetic. Join us -- the apathetic majority. Posted by: SL at February 05, 2014 02:50 PM (/RTvI) Incorrect. AGW is a lie.

Posted by: eman at February 05, 2014 11:02 AM (4nNd6)

276
Makes you wonder where it's all going.


Green oil and lead free bullets. 

Posted by: Chuck Hagel at February 05, 2014 11:02 AM (Aif/5)

277 Misanthropic Humantiarian at February 05, 2014 02:55 PM (HVff2) By the way, I was totally sarcastic about cutting Mitt some slack because he lives in CA. His statement is idiotic and demonstrates that the best course of action for him is to shut up and go away. This is difficult for me to say as I grew to like and respect him last election cycle.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at February 05, 2014 11:02 AM (r+7wo)

278 Mexicans Love Jeb! /Norm MacDonald

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 05, 2014 11:03 AM (KgN8K)

279 Isolate and eliminate the Tea Party voters.

Appeal to the squishy middle.

Amnesty.

This could work!

And I know just the candidate to pull this off...

Posted by: Karl Rove - from his underground bunker [/i][/b] at February 05, 2014 11:03 AM (5ikDv)

280

Seriously people, it's a short list.  And you don't make the list. 

 

Feel free to romance anybody you want, but when it's time to take your stroll down the aisle, it's  going to be Jeb  or Christie or heaven forbide, Huckleberry.  I can't think of  anyone else at the moment who  will even be allowed to be considered. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 05, 2014 11:03 AM (TOk1P)

281

2013 Defense Spending

1 USA 582B



Makes you wonder where it's all going.

-

Hammers.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 05, 2014 11:03 AM (q5wSU)

282 "Just once in my life I'd like to have the opportunity to vote for a GOP candidate who hits his Democratic opponent in the general election as hard, or harder, than he hit his Republican opponents in the primaries." It was a long, long time ago but I did get that opportunity. Reagan '84. Would have voted for him in '80 too, but I was too young to vote. Ronnie hit the Dems hard, with a smile on his face.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 05, 2014 11:04 AM (7ObY1)

283 *scoops up various awards off the ground* /watches hobo-trap net scoop EC up They never learn...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 05, 2014 11:04 AM (naUcP)

284 Look people, I have to say - and I am sure that Chi-Town Jerry will fully back me up on this - that if you wingnuts keep trying to nominate conservatives, you're only going to destroy your electoral chances.  You HAVE to nominate Jeb because only a moderate can win!

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at February 05, 2014 11:04 AM (YYJjz)

285 Green oil and lead free bullets. Posted by: Chuck Hagel at February 05, 2014 03:02 PM (Aif/5) Littoral combat ships that self-destruct. Oh, there is some work that needs to be done on the defense budget.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 05, 2014 11:04 AM (659DL)

286 2013 Defense Spending 1 USA 582B Makes you wonder where it's all going. Unions.

Posted by: garrett at February 05, 2014 11:05 AM (KOOGu)

287

Feel free to romance anybody you want, but when it's time to take your stroll down the aisle, it's going to be Jeb or Christie or heaven forbide, Huckleberry.

 

Pretty much.

Posted by: eleven at February 05, 2014 11:05 AM (fsLdt)

288 Green oil and lead free bullets.

Posted by: Chuck Hagel at February 05, 2014 03:02 PM (Aif/5)



With that kind of money, I expect powered fucking armour and ED-209's (maybe) on patrol, orbital drop shock troops launched from space carriers, rail guns (never miss again!), and sharks with frickin' lasers on their heads.



Posted by: EC at February 05, 2014 11:05 AM (GQ8sn)

289

Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us, oh mighty SMOD at February 05, 2014 02:53 PM (VtjlW)

 

 

Now those are teh rants I come here for.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Innuendoes for Both Men and Women at the Outrage Outlet! at February 05, 2014 11:05 AM (hLRSq)

290 Global warming is caused by all you gasoline tooting Neanderthals. Buy a bike.  Now I have to go tend my "herbal" garden. First I have to find my birkenstocks and adjust this sock on my head (whatever they call that thing) out from under which my nasty unwashed white guy dreadlocks flow.

I'd vote for Jeb if he'd have a toke with me, but he won't. He's a Dewars man.

Posted by: Sphynx at February 05, 2014 11:05 AM (OZmbA)

291 Jeb is big with Asians! /Norm MacDonald

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 05, 2014 11:05 AM (KgN8K)

292 So far,     only    Rand Paul, Rick Perry, and      Scott Walker are even remotely worth considering that I can think of.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 05, 2014 11:05 AM (q5wSU)

293 There are plenty of reasons to study climatology and the ability of living things to adapt to it. And there are good reasons to limit pollution. But these pols who "feel" tge need to accept - or even not challenge- the AGW crowd's premise are lazy and stupid.

Posted by: Y-not aka t-shirt at February 05, 2014 02:57 PM (zDsvJ)

The integrity of science was lost decades ago.  Now it's just about grant money.


Posted by: tangonine at February 05, 2014 11:06 AM (x3YFz)

294 and sharks with frickin' lasers on their heads.

Plus morays with plasma rifles.

Posted by: Waterhouse at February 05, 2014 11:06 AM (hBNxo)

295

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at February 05, 2014 03:02 PM (r+7wo)

 

Sorry to see  that  you  have  been  sucked  into  the  vortex  too. 

Posted by: polynikes at February 05, 2014 11:06 AM (m2CN7)

296 Go ahead. Nominate another Bush. Would NEVER get my vote.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at February 05, 2014 11:06 AM (HsTG8)

297 Plus morays with plasma rifles.


Just what you see, buddy!


Posted by: EC at February 05, 2014 11:06 AM (GQ8sn)

298 With that kind of money, I expect powered fucking armour and ED-209's (maybe) on patrol, orbital drop shock troops launched from space carriers, rail guns (never miss again!), and sharks with frickin' lasers on their heads. Well yeah, but this is Obamunism, where the State forces you to pay way more for inferior results, then calls you racist when you complain about it...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 05, 2014 11:07 AM (naUcP)

299 Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 05, 2014 03:05 PM (q5wSU) True. And I don't want another legislator as President for a long time. So strike Paul off the list.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 11:07 AM (PYAXX)

300
People are worried that China will pose a serious threat to us in the next few years.  If I were China, I'd make a big show about building up the military while just sitting back and watching the politicians in this country do their work for them.

Won't take long.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 05, 2014 11:07 AM (BZAd3)

301 So far, only Rand Paul, Rick Perry, and Scott Walker are even remotely worth considering that I can think of. I can be talked into Jindal and perhaps John Thune, if he would bite the bullet and run.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 05, 2014 11:07 AM (659DL)

302 Because we all know that the climate has never ever changed, ever. And that speaking of average temps was completely superfluous because until we started destroying the earth, the temperature on a given day of the year never changed, so the temp everyday was the temp on that day for millennia past.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at February 05, 2014 11:08 AM (r+7wo)

303 seriously, why does it take floating a Jeb nomination to get so many to see the writing on the wall?

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 05, 2014 11:08 AM (KgN8K)

304 John Thune is a RINO of the McCain variety no thanks Cruz

Posted by: thunderb at February 05, 2014 11:09 AM (zOTsN)

305 So, maybe we should get some flowers and a Get Well card for Ace. I hope he's feeling better...

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 11:09 AM (PYAXX)

306 *scoops up various awards off the ground* /watches hobo-trap net scoop EC up They never learn... Posted by: Brother Cavil Cold. But highly entertaining. Do it again. Do it again.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 05, 2014 11:09 AM (xorT2)

307 To accept either the "Anthropogenic" or "problem" portions of climate hysteria, one must choose to be completely ignorant of actual history.

Posted by: AllenG

That.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at February 05, 2014 11:09 AM (cxs6V)

308 286 2013 Defense Spending

1 USA 582B



Makes you wonder where it's all going.


Unions.

Posted by: garrett at February 05, 2014 03:05 PM (KOOGu)

not to defense, that's certain.

Most of it is wasted by an acquisitions system run by unqualified people, unions, unaccountable FFRDCs, and multiple clown cars filled with people looking to get a job at LockMart when they retire.

Posted by: tangonine at February 05, 2014 11:09 AM (x3YFz)

309 Posted by: thunderb at February 05, 2014 03:09 PM (zOTsN) Naaa... I want Cruz where he is. Also, see my above statement about not being thrilled w/ having another legislator in the President's office for a while.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 11:10 AM (PYAXX)

310 This is difficult for me to say as I grew to like and respect him last election cycle. It's been my experience that Mormons are among the nicest, most salt-of-the-Earth folks around. I may not get the whole Joseph Smith and his Golden Tablets, or whatever, but as people, Mormons are top-notch. My extended vacay to Utah last year only reinforced my opinion. Mitt is a nice guy, I have no doubt about that. Would he have made a great POTUS? Doubtful. But I don't doubt that he's a great guy.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 05, 2014 11:10 AM (7ObY1)

311 Polynikes, I still think Mitt is a good man. Doesn't make what he said not stupid.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at February 05, 2014 11:10 AM (r+7wo)

312 'old the line! 'old the line!

Posted by: Leftenant POMO [/i] [/b] at February 05, 2014 11:10 AM (cxs6V)

313 noooooooooo wait i ment nooooooooooooooooooooo

Posted by: elrobalo at February 05, 2014 11:10 AM (wH5Tk)

314 You know, if we stop climate change the Thermometer will go the way of the Buggy Whip.

Posted by: garrett at February 05, 2014 11:10 AM (KOOGu)

315 don't forget the Navy going "green", that aint free

Posted by: thunderb at February 05, 2014 11:10 AM (zOTsN)

316 So far,    Cruz has done     literally everything right, but he is like rookie of the year.  I'd like to see him in action for more than a year before I commit.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 05, 2014 11:11 AM (q5wSU)

317 296
Go ahead.
Nominate another Bush.
Would NEVER get my vote.


Exactly!

Posted by: "mythical" GOP establishment - Second Place And Loving! [/i][/b] at February 05, 2014 11:11 AM (5ikDv)

318 The last thing we need in this country right now is someone with the last name Bush in the oval office.  No offense to the prior two, who are some decent human beings who are on paradoxically board with some toxic ideologies, but this is a Republic, not a monarchy.

Posted by: Cato at February 05, 2014 11:11 AM (i+Vw2)

319 Because we all know that the climate has never ever changed, ever.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at February 05, 2014 03:08 PM (r+7wo)

 

 

I know you are being sarcastic, but can I introduce you to the glacier outside my office window?  It's name is Bjerg. 

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Innuendoes for Both Men and Women at the Outrage Outlet! at February 05, 2014 11:11 AM (hLRSq)

320 Cruz No. We've had enough Ivy Leaguing and Lawyering. I like him a great deal...maybe as a Supreme Court Justice, but not as President.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 05, 2014 11:11 AM (659DL)

321 Rand Paul Rick Perry Ted Cruz Scott Walker That's about it for my list. Maybe Jindal.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 05, 2014 11:11 AM (7ObY1)

322

If you want a real conservative nominee, cut the conspiracy theorizing and push forward a real conservative who's not

A) a hardcore so-con who lost a Senate election 8 years ago and for some reason hasn't gone away

B) a serial philanderer who's been out government for almost 20 years

C) an anti-semite, or

D) someone with a well-documented history of Foot-in-Mouth disease.

 

It's not hard.

Posted by: Paul at February 05, 2014 11:11 AM (9qDRl)

323


It is impossible for me to believe that they could find a bigger shlubby pussbag than Jeff Bush.

The GOP is awesome.




Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Christies at February 05, 2014 11:12 AM (xggaJ)

324 Romney would make a great Treasury Secretary.  That's about as far as I go.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 05, 2014 11:12 AM (q5wSU)

325 /watches hobo-trap net scoop EC up

They never learn...
Posted by: Brother Cavil


*uses sharp edges of awards to saw through net*



Posted by: EC at February 05, 2014 11:12 AM (GQ8sn)

326

As for the global warming nonsense, it used to be that scientists who started with a theory, then proceeded to try to force the data to conform to their theories were not, indeed, scientists. 

 

We used to call them frauds,  fanatics,  sharlatans, snake  oil salemen, or whatever.  Now  we give them Nobel prizes and whatnot. 

 

The  times, they are a burnin' (cue harmonica).

Posted by: BurtTC at February 05, 2014 11:12 AM (TOk1P)

327 315 don't forget the Navy going "green", that aint free

Posted by: thunderb at February 05, 2014 03:10 PM (zOTsN)

Every time I read or hear the term "going green" I kill a kitten.

In a pile of burning tires.

Posted by: tangonine at February 05, 2014 11:12 AM (x3YFz)

328 "sustainability"

Posted by: thunderb at February 05, 2014 11:13 AM (zOTsN)

329

Okay, that was a weird keyboard mangle in #318. Should have read "paradoxically on board with some toxic ideologies."

Posted by: Cato at February 05, 2014 11:13 AM (i+Vw2)

330 earth friendly

Posted by: thunderb at February 05, 2014 11:13 AM (zOTsN)

331 Even if Jeb Bush injected himself with Coolidge DNA, he would still be a Bush. Democrats would absolutely love to face another Bush.  It would be like 2006-08 all over again.

Posted by: Shoot Me at February 05, 2014 11:13 AM (qiXMt)

332 Every time I read or hear the term "going green" I kill a kitten. Small kitty, warm kitty little ball of fur Happy kitty, sleepy kitty, burn burn burn.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 05, 2014 11:13 AM (7ObY1)

333 *uses sharp edges of awards to saw through net* /watches EC fall 10 feet in a rain of swords /makes more popcorn

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 05, 2014 11:13 AM (naUcP)

334 reduce the carbon footprint

Posted by: thunderb at February 05, 2014 11:13 AM (zOTsN)

335 My early hopes are for Walker, but he'd have to continue to impress with his campaign strategy, primary showings, polling in vital States, just like everyone else.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 05, 2014 11:13 AM (ZshNr)

336 Posted by: Cato at February 05, 2014 03:13 PM (i+Vw2) I kind of liked "...onparadoxicallyaboard..." Good Moronism.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 11:14 AM (PYAXX)

337 At Last! Mankind has the power to destroy the universe. By looking at it. The Universe really is the Story of Obama.

Posted by: t-bird at February 05, 2014 11:14 AM (FcR7P)

338 Do you think, back in the early 1800s, that the citizenry was clamoring for a couple more Adamses?

We are so boned.

Posted by: jakeman at February 05, 2014 11:14 AM (vH4YP)

339  So far, only Rand Paul, Rick Perry, and Scott Walker are even remotely worth considering that I can think of.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 05, 2014 03:05 PM (q5wSU)

 

 

----------------------------------------------

 

 

Good choices.    Too bad they have to run against each other in the primaries.  Seems as though that's where the conservative cause gets sidetracked  and the RINO wins.

Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2014 11:14 AM (WLKl0)

340 (Honestly, it's like EC never saw Return of the Jedi or something...)

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 05, 2014 11:14 AM (naUcP)

341 Every time I read or hear the term "going green" I kill a kitten. In a pile of burning tires. With an empty set of six pack plastic rings.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 05, 2014 11:14 AM (659DL)

342 Small kitty, warm kitty little ball of fur
Happy kitty, sleepy kitty, burn burn burn.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 05, 2014 03:13 PM (7ObY1)

^5  nicely done.

Posted by: tangonine at February 05, 2014 11:14 AM (x3YFz)

343

As for the global warming nonsense, it used to be that scientists who started with a theory, then proceeded to try to force the data to conform to their theories were not, indeed, scientists.

-

That was like the stone age of science, before they started voting on theories.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 05, 2014 11:14 AM (q5wSU)

344 environmental justice

Posted by: thunderb at February 05, 2014 11:14 AM (zOTsN)

345 I hope that Ace hasn't been experimenting with that Phillip Seymour Hoffman heroin...

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 05, 2014 11:15 AM (LSJmV)

346 Just want to add that I am a modeler by trade (not climate) and if I pulled the crap climatologists did, I would be run out of town on a rail and no one would ever hire me. Then again, we don't rely on govt grants for funding and the companies that hire us deal in reality need results for the money they are spending.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at February 05, 2014 11:15 AM (r+7wo)

347 Posted by: t-bird at February 05, 2014 03:14 PM (FcR7P) something something "No man knows the day nor hour, not even the Son, but on the Father" something something.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 11:15 AM (PYAXX)

348 582 billion for all defense spending in 2013. 200 billion for one year of five year farm bill. FFS.

Posted by: Mainah at February 05, 2014 11:15 AM (659DL)

349
The good-faith effort of Common Core State Standards and now these Florida standards is the right path to be on.









It seems that Good Intentions Paving Specialists Inc. is booked solid for the next few years......

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 05, 2014 11:16 AM (TIIx5)

350 344 environmental justice

Posted by: thunderb at February 05, 2014 03:14 PM (zOTsN)

Oh yeah, that one too, and "social justice" will ragestroke half the family.

Posted by: tangonine at February 05, 2014 11:16 AM (x3YFz)

351 food desert



really?

Posted by: grammie winger at February 05, 2014 11:16 AM (P6QsQ)

352 Posted by: Paul at February 05, 2014 03:11 PM (9qDRl) Your guys are pushing JEB Bush, a fat man who had a tantrum with a bridge, and a guy who didn't think he could win in 2012. There's no room to go criticizing candidates.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 05, 2014 11:17 AM (kdfQ/)

353 "So far, Cruz has done literally everything right, but he is like rookie of the year."

I continue to like Cruz but continue to harbor suspicion and distrust in two areas.

-- Another (!) goddamned Ivy Leaguer. Even though the rest of the Ivy Mafia regard him as a filthy class traitor. The last non-Ivy president this country had was Ronald Reagan, and I'm more than ready to revive that model.

-- His wife works for the Vampire Squid, a.k.a. Goldman Sachs. I continue to believe that it would have been best for the country and the world if Goldman had been allowed to go totally bust in 2008, as they would have if left to their own devices. Not to mention that this opens up Cruz to the "Wall Street plutocrat" line of attack which worked well against Romney. (Romney was a LOT cleaner than Goldman Sachs, mind you.)

Posted by: torquewrench at February 05, 2014 11:17 AM (gqT4g)

354 345 I hope that Ace hasn't been experimenting with that Phillip Seymour Hoffman heroin... Posted by: Countrysquire at February 05, 2014 03:15 PM (LSJmV) It is, after all, his brand. Or maybe he is in hiding from the authorities due to his, um, company's involvement with the PSH incident. But seriously, I hope he gets well soon.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at February 05, 2014 11:17 AM (r+7wo)

355 I like him a great deal...maybe as a Supreme Court Justice, but not as President.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 05, 2014 03:11 PM (659DL)

 

 

-------------------------------------------------

 

 

He needs to stay in the senate.  He'd make a great senate majority leader.

Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2014 11:17 AM (WLKl0)

356 It seems that Good Intentions Paving Specialists Inc. is booked solid for the next few years......

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 05, 2014 03:16 PM (TIIx5)

hearing "I'm on the highway to hell!" lyrics.

Posted by: tangonine at February 05, 2014 11:17 AM (x3YFz)

357

Environmental justice.

Social justice.

-

Does anyone remember what the definition of justice is?  That one gets     what     one deserves, not that political connections determine the outcome.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 05, 2014 11:17 AM (q5wSU)

358 New one.

Not Ace.

I think he's run away from home.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 05, 2014 11:18 AM (P6QsQ)

359 146 Donald Fagen For President NOW!!!
_________
Now there's a candidate I can support. The "Chase the Dragon" campaign!
But Walter Becker is too stage-shy to be the veep. Who then?

Posted by: shredded chi - cereal killer at February 05, 2014 02:46 PM (u8vcQ)

**


Don't matter, I'm doing stream of conscience commenting. Whatever is on the radio at the moment I post a comment I will incorporate that musician into my comment. And it works well.....


VanMorrison 2016. 




Point is...we're Doomed.



Posted by: dananjcon at February 05, 2014 11:18 AM (NpXoL)

360
A just a reminder Texas voters, you have the pleasure this year of voting against Jeb's son George P. in the Land Commissioner race.

Vote against him in the primary. vote against him in the general. Say bad things to his face if you meet him in the street.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 05, 2014 11:18 AM (kdS6q)

361 O/t Interesting twitter fight concerning Piers Morgan and a bunch of trannys... If any of you good people check out Twitchy once in a while it's worth a laugh or two.... Piers made a "blunder" apparently by calling a tranny a former "man" which upset the tranny as she considered herself to be a "boy" until the age of 18 and never a "man". Piers is in hot water with this lefty group now even though he is totes on their side. Too ironic.... I think.... I'm hoping for an epic AceofSpadesHQ movie review of this Piers Morgan twitter fight to show up later this afternoon when the head ewok gets out of bed.....

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at February 05, 2014 11:18 AM (B/3gr)

362 So now they've made FOUR arrests in the Hoffman death. The NYC police are surely this fast and diligent every time a poor black kid in Harlem OD's, right? Riiiiight? C'mon, Bill DeStalino, you're letting your base down pandering to these Manhattan elites.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 05, 2014 11:18 AM (7ObY1)

363

305 -

 

And who do you expect to deliver said flowers/card? 

 

Bret (He Who Shall Not Be Named)? 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 05, 2014 11:18 AM (TOk1P)

364 I'm sure in any Sino-America War in the Taiwan Straits, it will be a huge advantage to America if we are paying 3x the cost of fuel than the Chinese are. Will we out-Green them militarily. Also, the Chinese have almost zero Diversity. It's basically just all Chinese dudes. As we all know, Diversity is our Greatest Strength. How could a non-Diverse nation like China ever militarily defeat a Diversity rich nation like America? Just speaking in terms of physics and science that is unpossible. That's not an opinion. You can't accomplish anything without Diversity. China doesn't have any african-americans people or hispanics. Hell, they don't even have white people! So, as you can see, scientifically speaking China cannot stand up against our Diversity and Green initiatives. China thinks they can compete just be building military technology and training their soldiers and sailors. They don't even allow vagina-americans in the infantry! Come on!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 05, 2014 11:19 AM (ZPrif)

365 I know there is a lot of Rand love here, but his comments on business (that they should be able to make bigoted decisions like not serve blacks on the basis of race) and his father's remarks on Jews are too much for me

Posted by: thunderb at February 05, 2014 11:19 AM (zOTsN)

366 Well, I will not vote for Jeb Bush. I did not vote for W in 2000. The minute he started that "compassionate conservatism" crap and talking about wanting to be "the education president" I figured he was a loser. I also feared that the GOP Congress would go squishy as soon as they had a GOP president. So I wanted Gore to win. I didn't actually cast a vote for Gore because of his endorsement of partial-birth abortion, i.e., infanticide, but I hoped he would win. I didn't vote for anyone for POTUS that year.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 05, 2014 11:20 AM (dfYL9)

367 360 A just a reminder Texas voters, you have the pleasure this year of voting against Jeb's son George P. in the Land Commissioner race. Wasn't George P. the "little brown one?" Remember that kerfuffle?

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 05, 2014 11:20 AM (7ObY1)

368 There's no room to go criticizing candidates.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 05, 2014 03:17 PM (kdfQ/)

 

 

And since it is February 2014 we really do not know who is going to run until next year.  I admit it is fun speculating, and the panic does get the old blood flowing and the heart pumping, but it is a bit early to go full Tea Party.

 

 

I want to save that until I actually have targets.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Innuendoes for Both Men and Women at the Outrage Outlet! at February 05, 2014 11:20 AM (hLRSq)

369 Ted Nugent for Prez.

Posted by: Sphynx at February 05, 2014 11:20 AM (OZmbA)

370
I hope that Ace hasn't been experimenting with that Phillip Seymour Hoffman heroin...
Posted by: Countrysquire




The negotiations for the sale to Salem Communications are at a delicate phase, so he's kinda busy right now.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 05, 2014 11:20 AM (kdS6q)

371 I know there is a lot of Rand love here, but his comments on business (that they should be able to make bigoted decisions like not serve blacks on the basis of race) and his father's remarks on Jews are too much for me

Posted by: thunderb at February 05, 2014 03:19 PM (zOTsN)


In a world of perfect reason, he's right about businesses being able to serve who they please.  In such a world, the market would destroy any business that did that, and rightfully so.

We don't live in that world.

Posted by: grognard at February 05, 2014 11:21 AM (/29Nl)

372 Hey Washington Nearsider, the Kinetic F-16I Sufa.

Get this, the instructions at no place calls out the installation of a cooling scoop on right hand side of the avionics spine.  The part is P19 and you must drill out the locator hole on that half of the spine, the locator dimple can be seen on the inside of P25.  And the scoop opening faces aft.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 05, 2014 11:21 AM (NNjb2)

373 working for Goldman in Houston is not the same thing as working for Goldman in NYC

Posted by: thunderb at February 05, 2014 11:22 AM (zOTsN)

374 Ted Nugent once had a song called "Stormtroopin'" He's a Nazi! There's the PROOF! A Nazi, I tell ya!

Posted by: The MFM at February 05, 2014 11:22 AM (7ObY1)

375

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 05, 2014 03:20 PM (dfYL9)

 

Lets see.    Compassionate Consevatism slogan  or Partial birth Abortion.   Such a hard choice.   Looks like I'm going to have to go with the PBA for the win.

 

 

Posted by: polynikes at February 05, 2014 11:22 AM (m2CN7)

376
He's a Nazi! There's the PROOF! A Nazi, I tell ya!

Posted by: The MFM at February 05, 2014 03:22 PM (7ObY1)



Well, ya, and he kills deer and eats them. Evil, evil guy.

Posted by: Sphynx at February 05, 2014 11:23 AM (OZmbA)

377  New thread

Posted by: Gmac at February 05, 2014 11:23 AM (4pjhs)

378 346 Just want to add that I am a modeler by trade (not climate) and if I pulled the crap climatologists did, I would be run out of town on a rail and no one would ever hire me. Then again, we don't rely on govt grants for funding and the companies that hire us deal in reality need results for the money they are spending. Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at February 05, 2014 03:15 PM (r+7wo) Same here, until I retired 18 months ago. Under no circumstances was I ever allowed to bury the data or otherwise torture it so that falling temperatures became rising ones without having a damn good explanation why that was a valid thing to do. These "climate scientists" hiding their gaming of the data and then refusing to turn it loose is what pisses me off above all else. They should be stripped of funding, indicted for fraud and jailed.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at February 05, 2014 11:23 AM (HsTG8)

379 errrr, post, yes, up even.

Posted by: Gmac at February 05, 2014 11:24 AM (4pjhs)

380 nood up

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 05, 2014 11:24 AM (7ObY1)

381 @112 - That makes two of us.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at February 05, 2014 11:24 AM (vg8iE)

382 >>>Your guys are pushing JEB Bush, a fat man who had a tantrum with a bridge, and a guy who didn't think he could win in 2012.

There's no room to go criticizing candidates.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 05, 2014 03:17 PM (kdfQ/)

 

I'm not saying the "establishment" candidates are any good (FTR I like Perry, Walker, Rand Paul, in that order).

 

I'm saying Romney and McCain before him won because they passed a basic competency test with primary voters. That test being, "does this guy seem mostly 'normal'?" A shadowy cabal in a smoke-filled room had very little to do with it.

Posted by: Paul at February 05, 2014 11:25 AM (9qDRl)

383
Dateline March 2017--President Ted Nugent today announced a national firearms competition to be held on the grounds of the Whitehouse shortly after the annual Easter egg roll.  Bunnys will be heavily featured in target selection.

Posted by: Sphynx at February 05, 2014 11:25 AM (OZmbA)

384 Talk about TONE DEAF!! No way in hell the voting public will have another Bush in the White House.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 05, 2014 11:26 AM (9eDbm)

385

>>>Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 05, 2014 03:19 PM (ZPrif)

 

lol. You actually seem to think Obama's America will stand up to China if it invades the Senkakus. That's funny.

Posted by: Paul at February 05, 2014 11:27 AM (9qDRl)

386 Just want to add that I am a modeler by trade (not climate) and if I pulled the crap climatologists did, I would be run out of town on a rail and no one would ever hire me.

Climatologists have done violence to the fields of meteorology, physics, mathematics, statistics, and computer science, just to get warmed up.  In some ways it's the perfect leftist cause, because all of those fields tend to dispute postmodernism.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 05, 2014 11:28 AM (B/VB5)

387 I love it when the tree hugging bunny humpers scream Solar/ Wind !!!111!!!!! They don't consider that both use huge amounts of rare earth minerals, which the EPA won't let us excavate for because every ton of rare earth minerals mined creates one ton of toxic waste and a couple of Olympic sized swimming pools of contaminated water. China is the only place we can get those materials from right now. So we trade Middle East masters for Chinese Masters, either of who can shut off the spigot any old time they want to. Not to mention that neither of those technologies are viable without loads of taxpayer money. And all for junk science.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at February 05, 2014 11:30 AM (+hPIb)

388 "261 I fully agree with Ipecac (sp?) that the hockey stick is real and it is human caused and that climate change is imminent, unstoppable, irreversible, and accelerating. Only they have yet to stumble across the accurate title, Climate Improvement. Posted by: Don't make me go Roundhead. at February 05, 2014 02:58 PM (P+fpB)" I am so stealing that.

Posted by: tmitsss at February 05, 2014 11:31 AM (7Rx8v)

389 #230 Its the caring about it part that you should disagree with. #250 Marmo Why should I show you proof? Why should I even suggest that you look for proof? Why, indeed, should either of us care what the other thinks? What part of apathetic do you not understand? Join us. #256 Y-not: I am honored that you, as a scientist with experience in complex systems see fit to write a thoughtful and somewhat lengthy reply. So you are arguing that as someone who is not a scientist I should actually care about this? Care enough to sort through the various conflicting and emotionally charged discussions? Why? 268 AllenG (and 307): Eh, it is probably a "problem" but it is not really a problem we can do anything about. You and I are going to die sometime. I think we would both agree that is a problem. But since we have nothing beyond the vaguest idea of when, and we can do little about it, why worry? 264 Circa and 275 eman: If it really is bullshit or a lie, what difference, at this point, does it make?

Posted by: SL at February 05, 2014 11:38 AM (/RTvI)

390 Wait....are you telling me that after a carefully orchestrated comeback, Mitt Romney went ahead and shoved his foot down his throat? What are the odds of that??

Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 05, 2014 11:45 AM (5xmd7)

391 I really don't think Ted Cruz is eligible to be President. He was born in another country. It wasn't on an army base. Plus, I really don't see how so many people think that Marco Rubio or Jeb Bush have disqualified themselves for the nomination. I, personally, like Bobby Jindal. I don't see why he was overlooked as VP last time.

Posted by: rex batt at February 05, 2014 11:55 AM (9NHfs)

392 So NOW is it okay to talk third party?

Posted by: Dandolo at February 05, 2014 11:58 AM (0XBx+)

393 Mitt Romney is back to thinking global warming is a problem. Deer Mitt 1. There hasn't been any notable global warming for 15 years. And unless summer starts on 1 April and lasts to 30 November and is blistering hot, I doubt there will be noticeable warming this year, either. 2. We've never had the discussion of "what is the optimal climate for life on this planet?". The warmists proceed from the assumption that a global temperature of 290K with 270 PPM CO2 is "optimal", but we know that's not true. Ask the ever expanding polar bear population if you don't believe me. 3. There's the very real possiblity that we're entering into a sun spot minimum comparable to the Maunder Minimum that lead to the Little Ice Age that lasted 500 years, beginning at about 1350 and lasting to 1850. Which is taken to be the beginning of the Industrial Revolution and the advent of global warming.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at February 05, 2014 12:04 PM (1hM1d)

394 Hubby will like the news about Jeb cause he refuses to accept that George W. is a moderate.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at February 05, 2014 12:28 PM (4Chvm)

395 As Coulter said back in '08- looks like Republicans have elected to sit out this next election as well.

Posted by: Book at February 05, 2014 12:30 PM (qWES6)

396 Mitt isn't back to believing in CAGW, he was lying before to get the votes of the dummies so he could do the "right" thing after he got elected. The man suffers from an overestimation of his understanding.

Posted by: chuck at February 05, 2014 12:30 PM (hUPCS)

397 Please tell me Jeb Bush once closed a bridge while he was governor.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 05, 2014 12:36 PM (QXlbZ)

398 Y'all, this is good news! The media can fry chubby Jeb early then our real guy can emerge from my hallucinations and prayers!

WHY do both parties have to run (or think they have to run) repeats? While I say this, and hope a new guy will run (like Ted Cruz or Trey Gowdy or anyone who will not take any crapola playing hands across the aisle), I will vote for anyone, anytime, anywhere against Dems.

It is also good news, the emerging potential new scandal of zipperless Bill and asking Tom Sizemore for his gf's phone number (who he flew, supposedly, to WH for four blissful days, probably trying out the Lincoln bedroom and all bedrooms in WH). Supposedly he told Sizemore he and Cankles had an open marriage and yada. Whatever, I enjoy his scandals.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky survived 2014 Polar Vortex at February 05, 2014 12:37 PM (baL2B)

399

"WHY do both parties have to run (or think they have to run) repeats?"

Give the Dems some credit for breaking with the script and going for the new guy in '08.  We're all suffering in hell now, but you can't say it didn't work for them.

Did the GOP learn anything from that?  No, the GOP never does.

 

Posted by: Donna V at February 05, 2014 12:48 PM (u0lmX)

400

lol Bush is a worse choice than Romney OR McCain, and yet another sign of the party establishment's corruption.

Posted by: Born Free at February 05, 2014 12:56 PM (xL8Hf)

401 No, Dandolo, it's NOT ok to start talking about Third Party. Unless you want 10 more years of a Democrat President...

Posted by: rex batt at February 05, 2014 01:16 PM (9NHfs)

402 Is there ANY Republican that we all can agree on?

Posted by: rex batt at February 05, 2014 01:18 PM (9NHfs)

403 I say we form an angry amenable mob and go draft Bill Whittle.

Posted by: davem at February 05, 2014 01:33 PM (wmzCM)

404 The entire Bush family is fucking crap I used to work for W as a consultant in the oil field. Nice guy, but..,

Posted by: TexasJew at February 05, 2014 01:33 PM (qK2iX)

405 Let Jeb have his 15 minutes.

We know the party isn't going to nominate someone all in for amnesty AND Common Core.  And it's not likely we'll go for Jeb, still too soon and even his Mom doesn't think he should run because of the family thing.

We are still ten freaking months from the MIDTERM election, folks.  Save some freaking-out for later when it may be needed, mmmkay?

Posted by: Adjoran at February 05, 2014 01:57 PM (QIQ6j)

406 My own recollection of Jeb Bush was a little-circulated story about when he was governor, when he sent the state cops in to try to "defend" that brain dead woman. This resulted in a stand-off between the local cops and the state cops. Somebody could have gotten killed. Somebody who puts his life on the line every day in public service. Over a dead woman. Because of this fool with some sort of religious nonsense rattling around in his head. Practically anybody would be better than whatever Democrat they come with to further their Cloward-Piven agenda, but that shows a major lapse in judgement, and I'd like to think the Republican Party can do better.

Posted by: Optimizer at February 05, 2014 02:08 PM (saDM3)

407 @391 "I really don't think Ted Cruz is eligible to be President. He was born in another country. It wasn't on an army base. Plus, I really don't see how so many people think that Marco Rubio or Jeb Bush have disqualified themselves for the nomination. I, personally, like Bobby Jindal. I don't see why he was overlooked as VP last time." Ted Cruz was not naturalized because he was a natural-born citizen - a citizen by virtue of the circumstances of his birth. So he's certainly eligible. A blind man could see that he's aggressively running, of course, but he has his plusses and minuses. Jindal? He sounds like a religious kook to me.

Posted by: Optimizer at February 05, 2014 02:13 PM (saDM3)

408 @391 Rubio was born in Miami.

Posted by: Y-not aka t-shirt at February 05, 2014 02:21 PM (zDsvJ)

409 NOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at February 05, 2014 02:21 PM (KL49F)

410 Jebbie's recent idiotic foray is his support of Common Core.

Also, Mittens is an idiot. Hope he GOES. AWAY. Shuddup already!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at February 05, 2014 02:23 PM (KL49F)

411

No.. Forkin...Way...In...Hell.

 

 Republicans are the absolute kings of dunbass if they push this RINO off on us.

Posted by: Gotta B Kidenme at February 05, 2014 02:25 PM (KEy1O)

412 "This resulted in a stand-off between the local cops and the state cops. Somebody could have gotten killed. Somebody who puts his life on the line every day in public service. Over a dead woman. Because of this fool with some sort of religious nonsense rattling around in his head." She wasn't dead yet, which was the point of ordering her starved to death. If opposing that is religious gobbledegook, lemme know when the secular government can start executing convicted murderers by the same method.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 05, 2014 02:28 PM (5xmd7)

413 Jeb Bush? Can't Commissar Obama run again?

Posted by: Veritas at February 05, 2014 02:35 PM (w9drt)

414 Nothing in the Bush family that amounts to the powder to blow it to hades.  

Posted by: burt at February 05, 2014 02:39 PM (1+kJ5)

415 Bill Clinton/Herman Cain. Clinton can't be elected anyhow, so use the loss to spread brand recognition. Of course that's crazy talk, because Bill Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act, deported illegals en masse, endorsed prosecution of medical marijuana users, signed welfare to work, and abandoned the effort for a federal health insurance program, so he's far too right-wing for the GOP.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 05, 2014 02:52 PM (5xmd7)

416 Piers made a "blunder" apparently by calling a tranny a former "man" which upset the tranny as she considered herself to be a "boy" until the age of 18 and never a "man". In fairness, Piers was never a man either, so it's a bit of fratricide.

Posted by: toby928© at February 05, 2014 03:31 PM (QupBk)

Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at February 05, 2014 04:22 PM (lILC0)

418 Let's not get too distracted by the presidency; the Congress is the important thing.

Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at February 05, 2014 04:23 PM (lILC0)

419 So, repeat of 2008 and 2012 with people screaming and wailing and dividing against the damn Dems. For the record: I do not like Jeb except during a hurricane, as he does know how to organize. I do like Rubio, a lot. I do like Romney. I do like Jindal. I love Ted Cruz and Rick Perry. I like Rand Paul. I would vote for Huckabee. People will find something wrong with all of the above and whine and gnash teeth and scream RINO or religion or something. I am tired of the RINO screeching.

It is waaaay too early for this. If the media want to vent their spleen on Jeb, then let them. I don't care. Bottom line: I will vote against the Democrat. Every time. And those of you who stayed home in 2008 or 2012 are the reason we have a jug-eared jackass in the WH and his "signature legislation" of Obamacare ruining our economy until the rest of most of our lives (or, so says the CBO guy today). While your reasons for staying home and allowing the Dems to win were justified, due to your high standards, which I agree with, by the way. However, unlike the blind Dems who voted for a black person to be president, as, unprecedented and historical! Part of history! Or the ignorant lambs led to slaughter for a beer or a pack of cigs or foodstamps, told to vote next to the (D). Or the people rigging the polls and finding trunks of votes, or throwing away the military absentee votes....you are educated, smart, conservative but plain stupid when it comes to moral high ground trumping reality: which was without you the Dems would win. This proved right in 2008, and, I think, in 2012 when, omg, we can't vote for a MORMON!!!11!

So, from comments today, I see the beginning of the circular firing squad forming again, full of high dudgeon and flip out. Let's see: vote GOP and maybe, by a freaking miracle, take back the Senate, and repeal Obamacare. Or, flounce! Moral high ground. Or, in 2016, let's say the ticket is Romney (who says he is not running, so there's that) or Ryan or Rubio. Ok. They are trying to pass an immigration bill. Their statements, some taken out of context, are that security does not matter and blah, blah, or they have to do this first. Ok. This is an issue I do not like: more added to welfare rolls, etc. But this bs of paying for their crap anyway, to the tune of, uh, over $7 to $9 thousand dollars per tax paying household in Floriduh (I haven't looked lately, could be more), well, fellas, that ain't working either. Speaking of my corner, many illegals are not here anymore because the economy is so bad they deported themselves back to Mexico...but I digress. I am going to listen to what these guys say and try to figure out their reasoning, as I think Rubio and Ryan are pretty smart guys. Yeah, politicians...but let's try something new and listen to what whoever says is running vs having it being read to us by Rush who is just reading the Drudge headlines (and I like both Rush and Drudge).

The choice will be clear again: stay home and let this raft keep heading for the rapids, or vote against the Dems, who sure as hell don't have your backs. If a third party is to be birthed, you better get busy, as, right now, I see no alternative but to vote or keep rolling over and playing dead. Oh, and I will go to my grave believing Romney/Ryan won but there was lots and lots of illegal doings going on including hacking in some states. But, crap, let's try to get it right this time and do what our parents and grandparents did when a Republican won the primary (do you think for one red hot minute my parents adored Nixon? Or Goldwater? Or anyone other than General Eisenhower? I mean, please). Unfortunately, with the Internet, our lives are, like Baroque's, in continuous campaign mode.
#politicsmakesmebitchy

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Something at February 05, 2014 05:18 PM (baL2B)

420 Oy

Posted by: Weirddave at February 05, 2014 10:44 PM (N/cFh)

421 So, repeat of 2008 and 2012 with people screaming and wailing and dividing against the damn Dems. For the record: I do not like Jeb except during a hurricane, as he does know how to organize. I do like Rubio, a lot. I do like Romney. I do like Jindal. I love Ted Cruz and Rick Perry. I like Rand Paul. I would vote for Huckabee. People will find something wrong with all of the above and whine and gnash teeth and scream RINO or religion or something. I am tired of the RINO screeching.

There is a tremendous amount wrong with your entire comment.  But, I'll just say that I am tired of GOP apologists who seem to believe that the entire purpose of conservatism is to elect republicans.  that we are playing a team sport and the only goal is to help the "r" team win and defeat the "d" team.

People who think like that are as much, if not more, of the problem for the U.S. than the dems. Because it empowers the GOP to be as liberal as it wants, knowing that "conservatives" who think simply electing an "r" is the solution, when the republicans are really as much of the problem as the dems.

Let's see: vote GOP and maybe, by a freaking miracle, take back the Senate, and repeal Obamacare.

Talk about not paying attention.  Both McConnell and Boehner have stated publicly that they have no intention of repealing Obamacare - only "fixing" it.  This is what I mean by beliving that voting "r" solves everything. 

but I digress. I am going to listen to what these guys say and try to figure out their reasoning, as I think Rubio and Ryan are pretty smart guys. Yeah, politicians...but let's try something new and listen to what whoever says is running vs having it being read to us by Rush who is just reading the Drudge headlines (and I like both Rush and Drudge).

So, your argument is listen to whatever they tell you during a campaign and do not - under any circumstances - listen to things they've said in the past or done in the past (or things they are telling people in private)?  Yeah.  Brilliant strategy. 

I hate to break it to you, but every politician (even the dems) run to the right during the election (and particularly during the GOP primary).  None of them ever actually do anything they promise during the campaign. For instance, no republican ran on passing amnesty.  Yet, that is what they are going to do.  No republican ran on increasing spending.  Yet they did that.  So, your argument here - listen to what they say during a campaign and ignore everything else - is absurd.

The choice will be clear again: stay home and let this raft keep heading for the rapids, or vote against the Dems, who sure as hell don't have your backs

Vapid at best.  Vote for the GOP to increase spending, increase gov't, increase entitlements, and pass amnesty or else what?  The dems will do all those things? 

I'm pretty tired of GOP apologists who think they are smart explaining why we have to vote "R" or else we'll get "D".  Ohhhh, scary!  If we don't elect the "r" we'll end up with more gov't.  Newsflash - the R's also increase the size, scope and expense of gov't. 

I'm sick of the moral high ground of the unprincipled republican apologists telling us that our lives depend on voting for republicans no matter what they do or say.  And then complaining that we have other ideas and complaining that we are "truecons" or "outrageously outraged" or "self righteous" or whatever nonsense.

the reality is you are just as self-righteous about your "principles", the only difference is that your principles are different.  Your principles are "elect republicans no matter what".  That is what you are self-righteous about.  That is where your high moral dudgeon kicks in.  You are better than us because you will pull that "r" lever no matter what!!!  That makes you smarter, better, and more righteous in your mind. 

We don't owe our votes to the GOP.  The GOP is not entitled to our votes.  The GOP and any candidate it runs must earn our votes.  The GOP as a whole has done everything in its power over the last 20 years to try and get conservatives to stop voting for the GOP.  So, it shouldn't really surprise the GOP or the GOP's die-hard supporters that conservatives are extremely leery of voting for the GOP.

Actions speak much louder than words and the GOP's actions prove that the GOP is a left of center party that disdains conservatives and conservatism.

I note that nowhere in your rant do you give a reason to vote for the GOP.  You merely bitch and complain that if we don't vote for the GOP the Dems will win. 

typical.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at February 06, 2014 03:49 AM (sOx93)

422 Dear Mr. Monkeytoe,

And where, kind sir, do you offer a solution? You may consider me vapid and bitchy, and if you think for one nanosecond a monkey toe's opinion behind his keyboard bothers me, well, whatever.

Where is your solution? I will vote for a miracle conservative, who manages to unite the party, in a freaking heartbeat. I consider myself a conservative, but in the weird world we live in, where the odds seem to be against us with demographics and liberal media bias, I am a "realist conservative" who is willing to not only roll with the punches but knock down Dems at the same time.

While there is political speak to "fix" Obamacare, from what I have read (and I admit, since 2012, I am both disinterested in politics, as there is a life off the keyboards and calling Congress; as well as disillusioned, with both sides of this argument: conservatives vs Rino. My point is this: division only strengthens the Dems and they are thankful for this process, brought on by purists and the liberal media. It makes their liberal messaging easier. Do you think if,maybe, Rush (who I respect) had supported Romney earlier he would have won? I think it would have helped, if, right out of the primary process, there was uniting instead of whining to beat this stupid preznit we have. So, you see, you are fighting against your own (me) who does not agree with you. That is exactly what the Dems want. 'gradulations, as Corinne Brown would say!

Therefore I have decided to support anyone against Democrats, without all of the hoopla and character assassinations (unless warranted, of course, like a Weiner or other perverts and weirdos). I have thrown rotten tomatoes at Huckabee in the past. No more. The alternative: a Dem, is far worse.

So put that in your pipe and smoke it. If you want a purist conservative, find him and let's roll. If you want to stay home, stay home. Jimmy cracked corn, and I don't care.

But since you are so busy taking each bit of my comment to pieces, let's see your solution! xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Something at February 06, 2014 06:00 AM (baL2B)

423 My point is this: division only strengthens the Dems and they are thankful for this process, brought on by purists and the liberal media. It makes their liberal messaging easier. Do you think if,maybe, Rush (who I respect) had supported Romney earlier he would have won? I think it would have helped, if, right out of the primary process, there was uniting instead of whining to beat this stupid preznit we have. So, you see, you are fighting against your own (me) who does not agree with you. That is exactly what the Dems want. 'gradulations, as Corinne Brown would say!

More stupid.  If we just shut up and support whoever you tell us to we'll beat the dems!!!! Hooray!!!  And then what? 

I love how you want to argue we should have "supported Romney earlier".  what?  What does that mean?  Should we even have primaries?  Why?  Shouldn't we just wait and see who the GOP tells us to vote for and then do so?  Silly.

Your response to me is more of the same.  "Shut up and support the GOP no matter what becasue I am a realist who says so!!!!"

What is my solution?  fight for conservative principals and goals.  That does not = mindlessly supporting the GOP as you suggest.  Not even close.  Not even remotely close.

So put that in your pipe and smoke it. If you want a purist conservative, find him and let's roll. If you want to stay home, stay home. Jimmy cracked corn, and I don't care.

Obviously, you do care or you wouldn't have responded with more vapidity.  I never said "purist conservative" - those are your words.  those are teh words of the "shut up and support the GOP no matter what" brigade.  If we don't just kneel and worship at the GOP altar whey you command, we are "purists" or "right-wing crazies" or a "circular firing squad". 

Your solution is obvious - "shut up and support the GOP".  That's a poor solution and not remotely conservative.  That is a big-gov't solution.  the GOP is not a conservative party and does not pursue conservative goals.  So your blind allegiance to the GOP is not well thought out.

I consider myself a conservative, but in the weird world we live in, where the odds seem to be against us with demographics and liberal media bias, I am a "realist conservative" who is willing to not only roll with the punches but knock down Dems at the same time.

In other words - not a conservative.  You've already given up.  You are willing to take whatever the GOP gives you to "beat the dems".  That is exactly what I said was the problem and you admit it and continue to claim that is somehow a good thing? 

Sad.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at February 06, 2014 06:21 AM (sOx93)

424 But since you are so busy taking each bit of my comment to pieces, let's see your solution! xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Something at February 06, 2014 10:00 AM (baL2B)


And, I'm responding to your comment because it so cleanly encapsulates the thinking of a large number of commenters on this site - that we should just all shut up and support the GOP no matter what.


Conservatism does not equal the GOP and the GOP does not equal conservatism.  That is my point.  Everyone who argues for blind loyalty to the GOP is not conservative - they are republicans.  They have tribal loyalty to the "R" brand, not loyalty to any conservative principals.  That is the problem.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at February 06, 2014 06:27 AM (sOx93)

425 So put that in your pipe and smoke it. If you want a purist
conservative, find him and let's roll. If you want to stay home, stay
home. Jimmy cracked corn, and I don't care.

the other reason this isn't true is that you posted your original comment complaining (yes whining) that conservatives don't shut up and vote "r".  That was the whole point of your original comment.  If you didn't care about conservatives who don't blindly follow the GOP, you wouldn't have felt the need to comment on how we should just shut up and blindly follow the GOP.

this is a type of comment we repeatedly see.  The "why don't you all just shut up and support the GOP no matter what or else the dems will win" comment.  It's as if some people don't understand the difference between conservatism and the GOP - they are not the same thing.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at February 06, 2014 06:36 AM (sOx93)

426 Ah, the wisdom of Monkeytoe. Merci!

This is a stale argument for many years now. I "got" it in 2008. I supported it then and do hope for a pendulum swing of conservatism.

I do not tell people to shut up, by the way. Those are your words. What people do is their bidness. Find where I said shut up: yep, you can't. I am simply making a statement, jumped on by you as we see differently and you are getting all defensive and appear, to me, to be the only one whining.

I think it is bad enough when Dems and people who vote GOP are in a room and the topic of either Dear Leader or Romney comes up. There is no middle ground...none. Totally polarized opinions based on content learned from the media. Rarely are opinions based on their own reading and making decisions for themselves (and this is in families today who vote opposite of each other. Obama has done one thing: he has polarized this nation).Very rare are the reasonable people who now see Obama's failures and things Romney predicted...and other GOP Congresscritters predicted, in the failure of Obamacare and the impact on the economy. Romney would have been a much better president than the one we have. He, at least, knows how to successfully run a business, is smart, and wants to fix this country. Baroque not so much, as he mostly appreciates his free ride on Air Force One and the chance to swag a little or sit at his empty big boy desk. There was a choice to make in 2012 and this is the choice we got: a pretender vs someone who wanted to make a difference and correct the ride off the cliff.

That said, it is such a pity that I FREAKING AGREE with you as a conservative, and I am one, dude. But there is no path to victory with purists vs the Rino label you throw at anyone who does not agree with you.

My glass is always half full. I adjust to change. And, apparently, from the last two elections, this is how it may be: a candidate with conservative values, but, to gain votes, has to compromise on some issues (one issue I will not compromise is my pro-life stance and the entire mess Obamacare has added to that of us all now paying for free abortions and birth control). Other issues I can...sometimes..compromise on. It is like a marriage, I guess, or a relationship with children: they are not always going to agree with you.

I am going to hopefully be very surprised in 2016, with the abject failure and chaos of obamacare creating conservatives from Dems like water to fine wine. I think the elections this fall will, hopefully, start the pendulum swing back to conservative principles, if it is not too late after 2008 and 2012, where Dems waltzed in and took over. Should we win all of Congress, maybe there is hope for repeal or "fixing" the law as it stands. That would give me a lot of hope.

I have no idea who you are nor do I care. Seriously. Whatever, dude. Nor do you have a bit of knowledge, apparently, on being a conservative realist, and that is what I am and have evolved into since 2008. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Something at February 06, 2014 07:26 AM (baL2B)

427 I'd vote for a genric RINO, right after I named my first child after Obama.

Posted by: Veritas at February 06, 2014 12:39 PM (w9drt)

428 BOTH OF THESE  ===>

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Something at February 05, 2014 09:18 PM (baL2B)

Posted by: Monkeytoe at February 06, 2014 07:49 AM (sOx93)

===> are  EXCELLENT  rants.

= = = = = = = = = = =

They are BOTH   *ABSOLUTELY*   true.

The rest of us need to print them out and laminate them ... then think long and hard and seriously about how to reconcile them in our own minds.

Thank God the next Presidential elections are a good long way off. 

Thank you both.

Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse at February 07, 2014 02:56 PM (Zy2tG)

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