April 04, 2011
— Ace I missed/obscured the real story about KSM's trial in order to make a point.
The point I was trying to make was that It ain't easy. Despite what these simpletons thought. Only low-functioning assclowns could possibly believe leading a once-mighty nation is easy.
But in making that point, I didn't emphasize at all that this policy is against Eric Holder's choice, not per his choice.
And he wants you to know that too.
In stark language, Holder lambasted Congress for imposing restrictions blocking any detainees from being tried in the U.S., saying that the "unwise and unwarranted restrictions" undermine the U.S. in counter-intelligence and counter-terror efforts.Expressing his disappointment in no uncertain terms, the attorney general said that as a native New Yorker, he knows as well as anyone the federal court's capacity to try the suspects. He added that he's intimately familiar with the cases, much moreso than congressional members -- or the public -- who opposed allowing the cases to be held in the United States.
"Do I know better than them? Yes. I respect their ability to disagree but they should respect that this is an executive branch function, a unique executive branch function," Holder said in a press conference.
Well Congress seems to have blocked it with the power of the purse so it seems to not be an entirely unique function, eh?
Too bad Holder won't be able to deliver civilian-trial victories like this one.
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Posted by: Lizbth at April 04, 2011 01:14 PM (JZBti)
Posted by: Heorot at April 04, 2011 01:14 PM (Nq/UF)
Posted by: Cicero at April 04, 2011 01:15 PM (QKKT0)
He's just pissed off that he can't tank the prosecution. You know damn well that he was planning on presenting a really shitty case.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 04, 2011 01:16 PM (9daa6)
What a little bitch. How many members of Congress have worked in the Executive Branch at one time or another?
Posted by: Rocks at April 04, 2011 01:20 PM (Q1lie)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 04, 2011 01:22 PM (UO6+e)
Posted by: © Sponge at April 04, 2011 01:24 PM (UK9cE)
Bush should have had everyone of those people at GITMO shot before he left office. He knew what was coming.
Posted by: Vic at April 04, 2011 01:25 PM (M9Ie6)
WAAAAH! Boo Freaking Hoo. The only reason this was announced today was to coincide with Obama's re-election campaign. (They still need to appeal to the far left kook base).
Rush made an interesting point today. With Holder arguing that the best venue for a fair trial was in a courtroom in the U.S.A., it sets up ground for appeal. Douchebag. It really pisses me off that our stupid asshat Republicans let this lying P.O.S. sail right through the confirmation process.
Posted by: runningrn at April 04, 2011 01:25 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: Franklin Raines at April 04, 2011 01:26 PM (tvs2p)
Posted by: © Sponge at April 04, 2011 01:26 PM (UK9cE)
I have noticed a pattern of Obama Admin. officials criticizing Congress. Whenever they're losing a PR battle or just need a PR boost, they'll lecture Congress and blame them for the problem.
NOTHING is ever their fricking fault. It drives me batshit crazy.
Posted by: runningrn at April 04, 2011 01:26 PM (ihSHD)
"The Iranian regime president also said the only difference between Obama and Bush is that Obama is a liar." http://tinyurl.com/3d4lerg
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at April 04, 2011 01:26 PM (YVZlY)
Wait a minute, Holder usually just ignores the law and does whatever he wants. Why should this occasion be any different?
Answer: Because he can't fly under the radar this time.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 04, 2011 01:30 PM (JxMoP)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at April 04, 2011 01:30 PM (saFHA)
Posted by: ontherocks at April 04, 2011 01:32 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at April 04, 2011 01:33 PM (saFHA)
-Shit E. Holder said, Vol. IX
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 04, 2011 01:33 PM (pLTLS)
Holder arguing for separation of powers!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Good for me but not for thee!
Shut the fuck up Holder.
Posted by: momma at April 04, 2011 01:33 PM (penCf)
Why you gotta bring the president into this?
Posted by: Bomber at April 04, 2011 01:33 PM (d88g9)
1. He was captured in civilian clothing.
2. He was not fighting under the flag of a sovereign nation.
3. Summary execution on the field of battle.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 04, 2011 01:35 PM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Damiano at April 04, 2011 01:36 PM (3nrx7)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at April 04, 2011 01:36 PM (saFHA)
O/T: Pickled or not?
Posted by: curious at April 04, 2011 01:37 PM (k1rwm)
Posted by: curious at April 04, 2011 05:37 PM (k1rwm)
Maybe it was blessed by a Rabbi? I could think of a million better places to send a pigs foot.
Posted by: Samuel Adams at April 04, 2011 01:39 PM (saFHA)
Posted by: curious at April 04, 2011 01:39 PM (k1rwm)
Posted by: Black Panthers at April 04, 2011 01:41 PM (McG46)
Posted by: Holder's family at April 04, 2011 01:41 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: nerdygirl at April 04, 2011 01:41 PM (SfSiO)
I don't think he did. I think that, like so many others, GWB thought that a few days to a few weeks in office would be enough to make Obama see the real world, and behave accordingly. He was wrong.
I would be willing to bet that his main regret from his years in office was that he wasn't more active in the 2008 campaign (even if only behind the scenes) to help get another Republican elected.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 04, 2011 01:42 PM (8y9MW)
"The Iranian regime president also said the only difference between Obama and Bush is that Obama is a liar." http://tinyurl.com/3d4lerg
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at April 04, 2011 05:26 PM (YVZlY)
Dinnerjacket might be nothing more a blind squirrel or a broken watch, but we have Bingo!
Posted by: ontherocks at April 04, 2011 01:42 PM (HBqDo)
No, guys, you are not smart. You aren't. You're dumb, that's why you went to law school.
Posted by: AmishDude at April 04, 2011 01:42 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at April 04, 2011 01:44 PM (6IReR)
"Do I know better than them? Yes. I respect their ability to disagree but they should respect that this is an executive branch function, a unique executive branch function," Holder said in a press conference.
There it is. In a nutshell. What's wrong with the entire Obama administration. They think they know better than everyone else. They are incapable of being wrong. What naked arrogance on display.
Posted by: runningrn at April 04, 2011 01:44 PM (ihSHD)
You know, at some point I want to know the genesis of this deep hatred you have for lawyers.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 04, 2011 01:45 PM (8y9MW)
Lindsay Graham and now this prick. God I hate lawyers and their supreme arrogance.
No, guys, you are not smart. You aren't. You're dumb, that's why you went to law school.
Ruh roh! (Looks nervously around for Lacey)
Posted by: runningrn at April 04, 2011 01:45 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: nerdygirl at April 04, 2011 01:45 PM (SfSiO)
OT: The Dems have been spinning fast and furiously against the 2012 R budget proposal. Andrew Stiles provides some insight into their plans, including this gem:
"UPDATE: Oh, good. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D., Fla.) has schedule a press conference for tomorrow afternoon to discuss the 'impact of GOP budget cuts on seniors.'”
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 04, 2011 01:46 PM (UO6+e)
The feds have been claiming that they have the right to indefinitely hold these (importantly) foreign fighter-jihadi scumbags as illegal combatants per the various international conventions on prisoners of war, or prisoners of war who've committed various violations of the rules of war. Which they do and the jihadis have, IMO. BUT, some of them suddenly get magically transported to civilian court for trial.
When the Soviets did that we called them show trials.
Fighting a politico-religious enemy who fights asymmetrically using Seventh Century and extremely high tech techniques all blended together with theology and ancient concepts of law is confusing. They've declared war on us using fatwas. Do those count?
By now though everyone should get the fact that, to them at least, it's a war. So turning a Pakistani loose because his Miranda rights were violated in the Hindu Kush during a sniper attack is not going to work unless your idea of work involves a substantial body count.
Posted by: Beagle at April 04, 2011 01:46 PM (sOtz/)
On Day Obama Launches Re-election Bid, White House Spokesman Says 'The PresidentÂ’s Not Focused on Elections'
http://bit.ly/fPmVVM
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at April 04, 2011 01:46 PM (YVZlY)
Well, they can't blame Bush EVERY time. Geez, be reasonable.
Well, crap! He tried the other night during his "Labia" speech. I love how he also threw Our First Black President/President of The World, Bill Clinton under the bus too.
Posted by: Fucktards Everywhere at April 04, 2011 01:47 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at April 04, 2011 01:48 PM (cDRYC)
Oops, left a stupid sock on.
On Day Obama Launches Re-election Bid, White House Spokesman Says 'The PresidentÂ’s Not Focused on Elections'
That would explain his dumbass first ad. He totally outsourced that one.
Posted by: runningrn at April 04, 2011 01:49 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: nerdygirl at April 04, 2011 05:45 PM (SfSiO)
Well actually, we want to blame Bush every time, but we're pacing ourselves...
Posted by: Obama and his 'Blame Bush' administration at April 04, 2011 01:49 PM (YVZlY)
You know who else knows better? My 17 year old daughter. Listen to her people, she's a fucking genius, and doesn't need life experience. She just knows shit! Ok?!
I got the same urge to bash Holder over the head that I get when my sweetie girl starts telling me, what a stoopid gaytard I am and how it is a miracle that I can even dress myself. Same f'n urge I tell ya.
Posted by: Sgt. Fury at April 04, 2011 01:50 PM (BPl2/)
Posted by: Damiano at April 04, 2011 01:51 PM (3nrx7)
I got the same urge to bash Holder over the head that I get when my sweetie girl starts telling me, what a stoopid gaytard I am and how it is a miracle that I can even dress myself. Same f'n urge I tell ya.
Geez, if there's one thing gaytards can do, it's dress! And accessorize! (Unless they're of the female persuasion).
Posted by: runningrn at April 04, 2011 01:52 PM (ihSHD)
"Hey caddy, what do recommend to get around the sand trap?"
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 04, 2011 01:52 PM (8y9MW)
iowahawkblog David Burge "The 1st Amendment doesn't give you the right to shout 'fire' in a crowded beheading stadium." -- Oliver Wendell Graham
Posted by: Obama and his 'Blame Bush' administration at April 04, 2011 01:53 PM (YVZlY)
Do I know better than them? Yes. I respect their ability to disagree but they should respect that this is an executive branch function, a unique executive branch function," Holder said in a press conference.
How to parse such stupidity...
Does he know better? Given that there are no lawyers in congress...waitaminute... "Ability" to disagree? How about "right" to disagree bunghole. "Executive branch function"? Except you need the judiciary to run the trial, dimwit.
Posted by: lost in amaze at April 04, 2011 01:55 PM (1vG6v)
Posted by: rdbrewer at April 04, 2011 01:57 PM (/v6J+)
And we made him president!
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 04, 2011 01:59 PM (Z1jiu)
Democrats have no problem wasting OUR money on their politics.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 04, 2011 01:59 PM (0fzsA)
Just checked out a link that convinced me I had to be on drugs (No, I'm not) or at the Mad Hatters' Tea Party. The director of the ACLU was quoted as being disappointed because NOW the trials will be inefficient and subject to all sorts of procedural delays, technicalities, etc. I would try to provide the link but truly, it isn't worth the time for the drivel involved.
Do these guys spend any time in the real world?
Anyway, I think Obama really thought it WOULD be easy. All his life he has been told that he is great by many, to the point where he was essentially deified in the last election. When he was an organizer and a Senator, he was protected by the liberal media from any consequences to his words and promises, and told he was a "Rock Star" after one convention speech.
What has ever happened in his life that would make him feel that the Presidency wouldn't simply be one more summit he would march up and conquer in double time, just as readily as he had done with his other tasks? He's always been one of the anointed, a "prince", a king in waiting. Hubris brings down the mightiest. He probably honestly feels betrayed, and so, probably, do many of his followers.
Posted by: RM at April 04, 2011 02:00 PM (TRsME)
I caught some of Holder's speech. What a whiney little bitch.
Posted by: Dennis at April 04, 2011 02:01 PM (sb8LP)
hey, you know who else should be on trial, Eric Cockknocker Holderpurse?
that muslim jihadi Nadil Hassan, that's who.
When will his 13 DEAD VICTIMS and the others he wounded going to get justice?
Posted by: fuckit at April 04, 2011 02:02 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 04, 2011 02:03 PM (Z1jiu)
Posted by: nerdygirl at April 04, 2011 02:03 PM (SfSiO)
Posted by: Dngr Mousse at April 04, 2011 02:06 PM (DffuX)
@70 - Is this surprising? Their only selling point is being the Hugh Hefner party, and you can't do that if you're not willing to protect people from the consequences of their promiscuity.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 04, 2011 02:06 PM (8y9MW)
70 So 41 dem senators say they will filibuster a budget that defunds planned parenthood. They care more about having abortions than they care about having a country, I guess.
But the Republicans are extreme!!!
/channeling Chuckie Schumer
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 04, 2011 02:06 PM (UO6+e)
Holder gives me same skeevies that deWon does. Arrogant pieces of shit. According to them, there's nobody on the earth smarter. In actuality, they are some of the dumbest fuckers to ever breathe. What pisses me off most about them is they believe that we are the stupid ones. Hell, my 3 lb. chihuahua has more brains/smarts in his little apple head than either could ever hope to have.
At this rate, by the time both of those fucks are out of office, I'll probably be a raging alcoholic.
Posted by: Steph at April 04, 2011 02:07 PM (AkdC5)
I got the same urge to bash Holder over the head that I get when my sweetie girl starts telling me, what a stoopid gaytard I am and how it is a miracle that I can even dress myself. Same f'n urge I tell ya.
Posted by: Sgt. Fury at April 04, 2011 05:50 PM (BPl2/)
Good Lord, if I had ever called my father a "gaytard" or "stoopid" I WOULD have been bashed over the head - by my MOTHER for being disrespectful.
Posted by: kathysaysso at April 04, 2011 02:08 PM (ZtwUX)
Are you in? over your pointy head
Are you in? league with Satan
Are you in? competent
Are you in? sane
Posted by: The Slogan & Platitude Department, A Unique Executive Branch Function at April 04, 2011 02:09 PM (FaFnu)
At this rate, by the time both of those fucks are out of office, I'll probably be a raging alcoholic.
Ha! Ha! True dat! I don't know if my liver can take 2 more years of Teh Won, let alone 6 more. Even mr. rn who never was a drinker is imbibing these days. I find myself thinking about adult beverages at breakfast these days.
Posted by: runningrn at April 04, 2011 02:11 PM (ihSHD)
At this rate, by the time both of those fucks are out of office, I'll probably be a raging alcoholic.
Posted by: Steph at April 04, 2011 06:07 PM (AkdC5)
Be a drunk, less meetings.
Posted by: Beagle at April 04, 2011 02:11 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Damiano at April 04, 2011 02:13 PM (3nrx7)
Posted by: Donna at April 04, 2011 02:16 PM (bdE9c)
Good Lord, if I had ever called my
father a "gaytard" or "stoopid" I WOULD have been bashed over the head -
by my MOTHER for being disrespectful.
Posted by: kathysaysso at April 04, 2011 06:08 PM (ZtwUX)
You'd be amazed at what teens call their parents now a days. My 16 yo step son's friends are crude as hell to their parents. It makes me sick. When they come over, they aren't allowed to talk like that or even talk about it.
Posted by: momma at April 04, 2011 02:16 PM (penCf)
Last time I checked, the American people, in a resounding voice, did not want terrorists tried in e U.S.
Posted by: Damiano
Unprecedented! Where did you get that idea?
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at April 04, 2011 02:17 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: mac at April 04, 2011 02:17 PM (gSYTw)
Well, they have a right to blame Congress - it isn't like they had a Congress their own party controlled, and a lapdog media that would hide their goofs and never ask any tough questions, like Bush had!!
Oh, wait...
Posted by: sherlock at April 04, 2011 02:18 PM (LvQK2)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at April 04, 2011 02:18 PM (cDRYC)
Ha! Ha! True dat! I don't know if my liver can take 2 more years of Teh Won, let alone 6 more. Even mr. rn who never was a drinker is imbibing these days. I find myself thinking about adult beverages at breakfast these days.
Posted by: runningrn at April 04, 2011 06:11 PM (ihSHD
I had all but given up drinking years ago, except for one every so often at a party. I got damn near falling down drunk on election night '08. Since then, my home is always stocked. It's the only way I can tolerate knowing those fuckers are in the WH.
Posted by: Steph at April 04, 2011 02:19 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: Damiano at April 04, 2011 02:19 PM (3nrx7)
Posted by: AmishDude at April 04, 2011 02:21 PM (sZjem)
Holder's first name should be Richard.
Well, I got it. Reminds me of a certain transit worker my fellow commuters and I were particularly un-impressed with. We knicknamed him "Richard Cranium".
Posted by: sherlock at April 04, 2011 02:21 PM (LvQK2)
Last time I checked, the American people, in a resounding voice, did not want terrorists tried in e U.S.
Sigh! That's the problem you get when you have Fox News and the right wing bias of the media lying about these wonderful, innocent men being illegally held at Gitmo. Shepherds, goatherders, nomadic tribesmen who stumbled into the wrong place at the wrong time are now being punished for crimes they didn't even commit. Our arrogance in trying to extract some kind of revenge on these poor gentle souls is exactly why the world hates us. I had hoped that this would change under President Obama, but unfortunately, the media won't report the truth.
Posted by: Kay in Pain at April 04, 2011 02:21 PM (ihSHD)
Getting a mental pic of me calling my dad a gaytard.
Heh. Pain like that cannot even be imagined.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 04, 2011 02:21 PM (ud5dN)
Why can't Soros or GE fund Planned Parenthood? Why should tax payers who disagree with abortion, be forced to fund it? Oh yeah - that's "fairness" in the eyes of a democrat.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 04, 2011 02:22 PM (0fzsA)
1. He really doesn't understand how civilian courts function, the limits of their power; That they have no way to sidestep rules of evidence, or any of the other police limiting rules accorded as rights in the Constitution, and as such are ill equipped to handle international terrorists, whom are first captured and detained internationally as irregular combatants and war criminals, or, as enemies of humanity.
2. He really just wants KSM and others to be acquitted to "prove" how wrong the US was in capturing and detaining them.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at April 04, 2011 02:22 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at April 04, 2011 06:18 PM (cDRYC)
Why Hello there, Sailor!
Posted by: Slutty Pantyless Canadian Chick From Previous Thread at April 04, 2011 02:23 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 04, 2011 02:24 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: Barry Soetoro's fluffer at April 04, 2011 02:27 PM (l4J9G)
"You're a far better person and more charitable than I will ever be.
I agree with where your going, but in my mind Obama is nothing more than a glaring example of everything that has ever been wrong with Affirmative Action, including willful and unfounded narcissism."
Not so sure about that more charitable stuff. My post was just a statement of how THEY probably feel. I have less than zero sympathy for what befalls them as a result of stuff going wrong with their crazy policies and fiats.
Posted by: RM at April 04, 2011 02:28 PM (TRsME)
Posted by: Bomber at April 04, 2011 06:01 PM
(snort)
Posted by: rdbrewer at April 04, 2011 02:28 PM (/v6J+)
Nothing was preventing us from shooting them ON the battlefield, there was sufficient justification for it. IMHO, the best solution, barring outright execution, is military tribunals.
Fucking good thing a loose cannon like me isn't in charge, this would never have arisen.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 04, 2011 02:32 PM (ud5dN)
Posted by: W.H. Doubter at April 04, 2011 02:42 PM (OCO/h)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose
BINGO!!!!!!!!!
And Bob, what prizes do we have for this contestant?
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at April 04, 2011 02:45 PM (sJTmU)
For those who might have forgotten in the total shitstorm of lies and disinformation that is the prime characteristic of the Obama Regime.
Of course Holder knows better. He's playing both sides in this game.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at April 04, 2011 02:51 PM (sJTmU)
Eric (and Barry) need to remember that everything is indeed easier when you are king and answer to no one. Unfortunately, the whole pesky Constitution thingy was an attempt to ensure that we didn't have a king over here since George III didn't work too well for us. Barack I isn't working out too well for us either, but hopefully he will abdicate and allow an election to select his successor.
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 04, 2011 02:55 PM (DCpHZ)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at April 04, 2011 06:18 PM (cDRYC)-
Just letting you know that I'm stealing that line, Pal.
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Yeah, let's try him in federal court.
Posted by: tachyonshuggy at April 04, 2011 01:14 PM (t+tqr)