1

I can always tell when a new thread shows up here at AoSHQ, because the prior thread dries up almost instantly. 

I know I won't be, but FIRST!

I understand that ceremonial resolutions are nice and all, but I'll never really understand teh need to pass a resolution condemning something as clearly worthy of condemnation as a mass murder.  But that's neither here nor there.  At least now they'll get back to the business at hand.

2 Any word from our betters about whether this is an uncivil and sharply partisan thing to do?

3 I'm still stalking the land.  Good.

4

Holy crow, I WAS first.

O_O

And I am so annoyed with my inability to type the word "the." 

5 But but, shouldn't we all be basking in the glow of Obama's great memorial speech for a few more months?

6 Git 'er done, Boehner.

7 Good. Stopping this vote was a major goal of their frothing lunacy.

8 2 Any word from our betters about whether this is an uncivil and sharply partisan thing to do?

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 13, 2011 03:37 PM (Gx9Qb)

Give us a minute, we're working on it.

9 Their only doing this now because Rep.Giffords in not able to vote, thanks to Sarah Palin (spit!).  They should wait until she is out of the hospital before they hold any votes on anything.

It's the right and moral thing to do.

10 But...but....but Sarah Palin has marks on a map and she said blood libel! You can't stay in session!!!Waaaaaa!

11 Good. Git r done.

12 I'm glad they are doing this. Screw the media- they will rip the GOP no matter what they do, just like in 1995 ( starving children). Also, very heartened to see them going after the crazy 1099 provision. Barry had his moment- time to get back to the ballgame.

13 In fact, they should not be ALLOWED to hold this vote.  It should be illegal!!

This is just another example of the Tea Party and Sarah Palin dancing on the graves of those poor victims in AZ.

TOGETHER WE THRIVE!!^tm

14

Drew

I agree that it should have been done this week...and I like the fact that Boehner didn't feel the need to attend the Obama campaign kickoff/slash pep rally in Tuscon last night..

...Giffords getting shot was a bad, bad thing...but there is a country to run

15 Allah is tweeting that poppin' fresh is offically more of a candy ass than he is today. I disagree.

16 10 But...but....but Sarah Palin has marks on a map and she said blood libel! You can't stay in session!!!Waaaaaa!

Posted by: NYT at January 13, 2011 03:39 PM (+Z6ve)

You know, when I picture what the NYT editorial boardroom must look like, I invariably picture an enormous Chuck E. Cheese monstrosity, with a ball pit and mini merry-go-round, and Paul Krugman in a corner hitting a small child on the head with a toy hammer because the small child called his beard stupid.

17

Good to see the majority is not intimidated by the ghouls of the left.

Must be hard loosing all that swag of absolute power and then to find yourself hustling drive-by shootings for meaning and attention. Makes me wonder who the mentally disturbed are.

Remember our instructions from the Ivy League's: "Restore Civility - Assassinate Pallin".  Its the only civil thing to do.

18 and the home, of the...............Braaaaaaave. PLAY BALL!!!

19

You know, when I picture what the NYT editorial boardroom must look like, I invariably picture an enormous Chuck E. Cheese monstrosity, with a ball pit and mini merry-go-round, and Paul Krugman in a corner hitting a small child on the head with a toy hammer because the small child called his beard stupid.

Add some weird sex toys and a pile of reefer and I think you've got it.

20 Clearly, the world keeps turning and the country still needs running.

21 Amen.

22 Some ABC reporter said something like, "...bill which Republicans, before the shootings, called job-killing" What a retard.

23 A nutjob kills some people so the right needs to surrender 1/5th of our economy to socialism?

As if.

This is the first time we get to see if our new Republican leadership has a set.

24

Their first act is to coursen the public discourse be reading a 200+ year old document written by a bunch of racist, homophobic men and now they're trying to implement their "die quickly" vision of health care. 

Have they learned nothing?

25 See America? The rethuglicans just don't want to play nice.

26 Yea........... The MFM had no problem with the Obama campaign speech in Tucson yesterday. How about only a day after 911 the Commie-Crats were nuking Bush...That was OK .

27
good word to know: prorogue

As in: the House was prorogued.

It means to defer, postpone; to discontinue a session of.

28
I was afraid that the Democrats bullying and the Republicans cowardice would lead to the House being prorogued.

_{^{Don't ever say I never teach you guys stuff.}}

29 Have you no shame? How can you not respect their two-year period of mourning?

30 22 Some ABC reporter said something like, "...bill which Republicans, before the shootings, called job-killing"

What a retard.

Posted by: t-bird at January 13, 2011 03:45 PM (FcR7P)

I heard that too. So I'm driving to pick up the kids saying to myself: Job-murdering, job slaying, job-ending, job ravaging, job destroying, job fucking....sigh

31

I'm up for a re-do.

Let's read the Constitution again. Let's keep reading it until these folks don't need to have a copy in front of them.

32 "GOP kills Health Aid for Poor. Palin praises sharp aim."

33

I heard that too. So I'm driving to pick up the kids saying to myself: Job-murdering, job slaying, job-ending, job ravaging, job destroying, job fucking....sigh

don't forget job-waterboarding.

34 Naturally there's the whole "How can the GOP do this now?" thing out there and it will only get worse during the debate and after the vote.

However, during its debate and passage, this statement didn't apply when Ted Kennedy was on his deathbed.  The left only wants to stall when it's convenient for them.  Otherwise, when it's what they want,  it's a ramfest, baby.

35 @ Soothsayer: "prorogue"

Yeah, that's the part before the first chapter of a book read by the dictator of Korea.  When he's ronery.

36 I got yer moral imaginations right here!

37 "GOP Uses Killings To Begin HealthCare Repeal"

38 Okay, A question that has been somewhat OT (and a little cruel) until now- what about Rep Gifford's seat?  How long do they wait (if at all) before they say she's incompetent to hold office?

Even granting the best recovery possible, it's my understanding that she won't be in any shape to make it Washington DC for months.  If it takes longer than that, or leaves her permanently brain-damaged (and there's no way to know, yet) at what point do they say "The people of Arizona need their Representative to be in Congress" and have that seat filled?

Just a procedural question, really, but one I've been wondering about.

39 They should have t-shirts printed up with Obamacare: Together we Writhe

40 "GOP Cycle of Violence Claims New Victim"

41
How can you not respect their two-year period of mourning?

Funny, but this is the desire of the Democrats -- to unofficially prorogue the Republican-led House.

42 Medved approves of Obama's speech. Imagine my shock.

43

I am amazed that around the world, not just here, that the closer the left's ideology of theft comes to destroying societies and countries, the harder the hold to keeping their policies of theft and the more violent they get in trying to keep them.

Somehow I think that this too, is the right's fault.

44 If the Repubs let themselves to be pushed around here, much of what was gained in November will be lost / squandered

That grotesque shit-for-all last night was a disgrace to our culture, our citizenry, our traditions, and another deliberate provocation to all good people in America

Fight the bastards; fight them on EVERY hill now;  it's war

If we lose this fight, America goes down the Obama Toilet.

45 "HealthCare - What Would Christina Do?"

46
Mourning, btw, in this case, includes rallies, commemorative knick-knacks, and fund raisers.

47 Um, Ron Paul only votes against Israel in resolutions.

I'd respect his "principles" if he were consistent.  It's not crazy to be anti-resolution and refuse to vote on them.  But he conspicuously votes against Israel all the time.

48 Laena Fallon, eh?

49 The Dems got right back to work after Fort Hood--they didn't even take a day off from ruining the country so as to set it up for 'Transformation'

Giffords isn't even dead, FCS ( fer Christ's sake ); she didn't die but Obamacare needs to be put down, as the Irish say

50 2 Any word from our betters about whether this is an uncivil and sharply partisan thing to do?

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 13, 2011 03:37 PM (Gx9Qb)

Actually, this whole thing started because of the uncivil and sharply partisan Health Control Bill.

We are following the lead of the president in asking for its repeal so that the American people can heal from its destructive effects.

51

Oh, and Geitner is telegraphing the next TARP.  That last one worked so well.

Idiot for president, idiot for treasury, idiot for homeland security, idiot for vice president.  Idiot at State.  Idiot advisors.  We are enjoying a glut of idiocy.  A deluge.  We're forming an idiocy bubble.  We may no longer be a super, but we have the best idiots in the world.  We could be an exporter of idiots.  We have an idiot surplus.

52

But he conspicuously votes against Israel all the time.

There is a name for that.  "Iranian."

53
It's only a matter of hours until the first of many Democrats go on the House floor and scream, "If the Republicans repeal this bill, they will be killing millions of Americans!"

and the media will either yawn or agree

54

I heard that too. So I'm driving to pick up the kids saying to myself: Job-murdering, job slaying, job-ending, job ravaging, job destroying, job fucking....sigh

don't forget job-waterboarding.

Posted by: rockhead at January 13, 2011 03:49 PM (RykTt)

Job-coal burning.

55 Yes, since they promised to do this first they need to get it out of the way. I don't expect it to do any good but if they are going to do it it needs to be soon.

It will take a lot of time to craft all those independent department funding bills before the CR expires.

I WANT TO SEE SOME DEPARTMENTS DEFUNDED!

Start with the EPA.

56 I am amazed that around the world, not just here, that the closer the left's ideology of theft comes to destroying societies and countries, the harder the hold to keeping their policies of theft and the more violent they get in trying to keep them.

With apologies to Kratos, in the end, there's us.

57 The speed with which the Repubs pushed the "hey, let's take a week off to honor Gabby Giffords" thing confirms -- at least to me -- a long-held suspicion: None of them want to get any work done. It might make them unpopular and all.

Yeah, it was fine to stand up in front of the Cheering Masses and spout "principles," but that's just not as much fun when it leads to voting on, discussing or drafting legislation. It becomes too much like work.

58

They will us Giffords as the rallying cry against this repeal and it will be disgusting.  One line of attack will be that if they were to repeal Obamacare, Giffords would not of been able to get the great care she has gotten at the medical center. 

Mark my words, its going to happen and it will be 10 times more vile than what I've stated here.

59 53 I see what you did there

60 They will us Giffords as the rallying cry against this repeal and it will be disgusting. One line of attack will be that if they were to repeal Obamacare, Giffords would not of been able to get the great care she has gotten at the medical center. The rally cry would be that if ObamaCare was enacted a year ago, Jared Loughner would be receiving the care he needed and this needless tragedy would never of happened.

61 Posted by: WishRich at January 13, 2011 04:00 PM (hdpay)

No, won't work:  Congressmen have gold-plated health care

62 It's only a matter of hours until the first of many Democrats go on the House floor and scream, "If the Republicans repeal this bill, they will be killing millions of Americans!" Anthony Cockgobbler is still there.. I'm sure he would be more than happy to say something.

63 Posted by: MrScribbler© at January 13, 2011 04:00 PM (Ulu3i)

Give them a chance--60 days or so; until then, enough with the Constant Doom & Bitter Premature Recriminations

64 I'll just momentarily step out of my lurking shadows to say don't listen to the MFM marginalize them, don't hit their TV stations or buy their newspapers, make them hurt in the wallet and by all means make fun of the little anarchists!

65

"As the president said, rhetoric was not the cause of this tragedy and implying that it was is the wrong thing to do. We will now get to work doing what the voters told us to do in the November elections."

End of Chapter.

66

I could not agree with Drew more.  I called Cantor's office this morning inquiring when the vote was going to happen.

We call and rally our Congresspeople to influence their vote--nothing.

Shoot one in the head--they postpone a vote.

What does this encourage???  There are enough sickos out there--they should continue to conduct their business.

67 Let's Put the FUN back in Funeral!

68

We call and rally our Congresspeople to influence their vote--nothing. Shoot one in the head--they postpone a vote.

Would not postponing have helped, or harmed, the chance to repeal Obamacare?

69 Give them a chance--60 days or so; until then, enough with the Constant Doom & Bitter Premature Recriminations
Posted by: Timmy the Turd from Tucson at January 13, 2011 04:06 PM

I suppose after 60 days you'll be saying "hey, give 'em six months...."

How long did Congress recess after 9/11? How long after Ft Hood?

Ordinarily, people are expected to start work on a given day, not whenever-the-fuck they feel like it.

The shootings in Tucson were an evil act but, frankly, a matter for national concern and sorrow for the victims, not an opportunity for the Welfare Queens in the House to take a week off. One day would be understandable (because one of their own was a victim); but a week is nonsense.

70 When my unit was ambushed in 'Nam we didn't take a time out we attacked, get some balls Conservatives!!!!!

71 When my unit was ambushed in 'Nam we didn't take a time out we attacked,

Fucking A, buddy!  Fucking A!

72 The dems didn't take off, didn't that congresswoman introduce an anti gun bill and didn't Peter King introduce some bill about words or something and didn't another dem introduce another bill about words too?

Only the republicans/conservatives took time off....

73 How long do they wait (if at all) before they say she's incompetent to hold office?

They won't.  Remember that South Dakota had a Senator in a coma (Johnson) and he kept his seat.

From what I'm hearing, she isn't incompetent at all and should make a full recovery.  Besides, it's almost impossible to do it anyway.  You don't want governors going around calling people incompetent and having a special election.

If she does resign, then I'd guess that it will happen too late to hold a proper special election.

74 Has Sheriff Dipshit scheduled a press conference to weigh in on this? Is this considered vitriol or will it go right to being a hate crime?

75 Aaaannnnndddd , the warm glow of civility and cooperation from Obama's Sermon from the Mount continues ...

Video: Charity fires director for Facebook comments on Tucson shooting

Glen Busch and his wife have clothed more than 2,000 poor children since starting the Chicago chapter of Coats for Kids in 2005.  That seems like a success story, but apparently a couple of Facebook postings asking people to stop leaping to conclusions over the Tucson shootings outweigh the years of good work performed by the Busches.   The national organization fired Busch from the position he created after finding his messages on line, informing him that his connection to the charity is untenable after entering the political fray:

76 Posted by: kbdabear at January 13, 2011 04:26 PM (vdfwz)

this is why there are more and more independents....you can get fired if your political views are not the mass political view

77 I'm still confused about why we had a national memorial service for a politician who didn't die.

78 Couldn't agree more with your points on the one week delay. How many organizations shut down for a week when one of their employees is shot? What a precedent for the Republicans to set! Anyone wishing to disrupt Congress for a week now knows what it takes. Bad move all around, Boehner.

79 Posted by: Jaynie59 at January 13, 2011 04:30 PM (YjQWV)

what is wrong with you people?   You're always nit picking....

80 I posted this last night.  Not sure if you guys are ignoring this or didn't see it:
"Obama speech undercuts federal charge for judge's murder"
via drudge

Was curious what you guys think about this.

81 It would have demonstrated that the Congress and the country is stronger than any one person and that neither will not be held hostage by the acts of a mentally defective and violent man.

He still has veto power.

82 Posted by: MrScribbler© at January 13, 2011 04:16 PM (Ulu3i)

no, man, 60 days means 60 days:  No continuations, commutations, convolutions, or coming too soon.  Line in the sand, etc

83 Repealing Obamacare needs to be tied with raising the debt limit if they are going to be serious about getting rid of it.  Without using the debt ceiling as leverage, it's all just a big meaningless show.  

84 77 I'm still confused about why we had a national memorial service for a politician who didn't die.

Posted by: Jaynie59 at January 13, 2011 04:30 PM (YjQWV)

You're expecting a Hell of a lot of critical thinking from Democrats.

Right/wrong alive/dead... it's all above their pay grade.

85 The repeal vote was scheduled for earlier this week but was postponed in order for the House to pass a resolution on the shootings in Arizona.

Call me insensitive, but I'd prefer that they did some real work. If they want to show solidarity, circulate a large get-well card for everyone to sign.

86

Personally, I think they should have done it this week.

If the House wanted to take a few hours to say nice thing about their friend and colleague, fine. That's certainly understandable and appropriate. But the idea that all serious business gets put off indefinitely gives a nut like Loafnerd far too much credit and power.

--

Finally. 

I felt like a complete asshole because no one seemed to feel this way.  Well, now I'm an asshole with company at least. 

87 He still has veto power.

Nice.  ISWYDT.

88 Screw the media- they will rip the GOP no matter what they do, just like in 1995- starving children...

What do we hear about Republicans shutting down the government back then? "Clinton balanced the budget." That's right. This is a golden opportunity to put Obama in the hot seat. Make him use his veto pen or STFU.

89 He still has veto power.
Haha! I saw this. It might have been the BBC:
This year, 2011, both Groundhog Day and the State of the Union address occur on the same day.

It is an ironic juxtaposition of events- one involves a meaningless ritual in which we look to a creature of little intelligence for prognostication, while the other involves a groundhog.

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