December 02, 2011
— Ace Mother Jones attempts to sour social cons on Gingrich with a headline titled "How Newt Gingrich Saved Porn."
The article is about him blocking a massive censorship regime in the earliest days of the internet (back in 1995, 1996) that could have penalized someone who simply wrote one of the "seven dirty words" with two years in jail and a $100,000 fine.
Obviously, Mother Jones should be thanking Gingrich, as the leftist Mother Jones is obviously hostile towards that idea.
But of course Gingrich is the Designated Villain, as Gabe says, so the article gets an over-the-top hit-piece headline.
"Barbarian pornographers are at the gate and they are using the internet to gain access to the youth of America," warned Sen. Jim Exon (D-Neb.).To fend off the barbarians, Exon introduced an amendment to the Communications Decency Act criminalizing the transmission of "indecent" materials over the internet. In case any stone remained unturned, it went after internet service providers as well: Email or distribute nude photos—or even just type one of the "seven words you can't say on television"—and you could face a $100,000 fine or up to two years in prison.
To illustrate the danger of internet porn, Exon compiled an album of graphic images he'd found on the web—including one of a man engaging in intercourse with a German shepherd—in a blue binder with a red "caution" sticker, and invited his colleagues to take a look.
Exon's measure passed the Senate with 86 votes. The appeal was clear: No elected official wanted to be seen as voting for smut. The Contract With America—Republicans' promise to voters in advance of their landslide win in the 1994 elections—had even contained a provision vowing to crack down on child pornography.
That's where Gingrich came in.
To the House speaker, the debate presented a clash between his desire to prepare America for the 21st century and his conservative values. Gingrich, by his own description, was a "conservative futurist." He envisioned honeymoons in space and laptops in every classroom; the Exon amendment, by casting such a wide net, threatened that future.
Gingrich was right that Exon's bill was extremely broad. As Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) pointed out in a particularly inspired floor speech, the law could even have criminalized the online distribution of Gingrich's first novel, 1945, in which a "pouting sex kitten"—who is also a Nazi—seduces a White House aide in order to extract classified information. It would also have prohibited most non-Will Smith forms of hip-hop.
"[The amendment] is clearly a violation of free speech and it's a violation of the right of adults to communicate with each other," Gingrich said at the time. "I don't agree with itÂ…" In an interview with British journalist David Frost, he elaborated on his position. "I think there you have a perfect right on a noncensorship basis to intervene decisively against somebody who would prey upon children. And that I would support very intensely. It's very different than trying to censor willing adults."
That was previously a controversial position. That, too, has changed.
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Posted by: The Dude at December 02, 2011 11:40 AM (M8yfa)
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at December 02, 2011 11:41 AM (qiOph)
Posted by: Racist, Right-Wing Terrorist in Midwest...Or Tea Party Member for Short at December 02, 2011 11:41 AM (fOPv7)
Posted by: t-bird at December 02, 2011 11:42 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: joncelli, who would really like to be 9 at December 02, 2011 11:42 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: SFGoth at December 02, 2011 11:42 AM (dZ756)
Posted by: Everyone at December 02, 2011 11:43 AM (QQn2V)
Newt Gingrich saved the AoSHQ comments section!
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 02, 2011 11:43 AM (XTONQ)
Posted by: Yes it's True, damnit at December 02, 2011 11:44 AM (XGLac)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 02, 2011 11:44 AM (+i7bT)
Back then labradoodles were not nearly as popular as they are now and a lot of guys just had to make do with whatever dog was at hand.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 02, 2011 11:45 AM (+lsX1)
Speaking of pron, I can't tell as this is grainy but is Olbermann sporting a pornstache in this clip?
As for the content of this clip, well delusional. All I can say is that they're completely off their rocker.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 02, 2011 11:45 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: USA at December 02, 2011 11:45 AM (6Cjut)
Of course, researching bestiality pictures is just one of my many talents. . .
Posted by: Senator Exon at December 02, 2011 11:45 AM (YWZwH)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 02, 2011 11:45 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Electability Republicans at December 02, 2011 11:46 AM (KEMgn)
Posted by: Dustin at December 02, 2011 11:46 AM (rQ/Ue)
Posted by: Sen. Jim Exon at December 02, 2011 11:46 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: RamonAllones at December 02, 2011 11:47 AM (ha+6S)
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at December 02, 2011 11:47 AM (qiOph)
Posted by: Mother Jones at December 02, 2011 11:47 AM (ggRof)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at December 02, 2011 11:47 AM (bjRNS)
Looks like I'll have to vote for Obama after I'm done blowing up the cars of left-wing TV hosts.
Posted by: Ken, the Kenniest Ken Who Ever Kenned at December 02, 2011 11:47 AM (W8x1p)
Gingrich was right that Exon's bill was extremely broad. As Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) pointed out in a particularly inspired floor speech, the law could even have criminalized the online distribution of Gingrich's first novel, 1945, in which a "pouting sex kitten"—who is also a Nazi—seduces a White House aide in order to extract classified information. It would also have prohibited most non-Will Smith forms of hip-hop.
And there were downsides to it, too.
Posted by: Randy M at December 02, 2011 11:48 AM (vI8R6)
Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at December 02, 2011 11:48 AM (IfkGz)
Of course, researching bestiality pictures is just one of my many talents. . .
Posted by: Senator Exon at December 02, 2011 03:45 PM (YWZwH)
And if he hadn't people would have shouted 'If you don't see it how do you know it's bad!"
Posted by: kdny at December 02, 2011 11:48 AM (SrCor)
McCainBlogette Meghan McCain Yes, I had a moment on air and said "more smarter" instead of "much smarter". Live TV, I'm human, made a mistake. Give a girl a break! :-)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 02, 2011 11:49 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: CoolCzech at December 02, 2011 11:49 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: Wall-E at December 02, 2011 11:49 AM (48wze)
Posted by: Jenna Jameson at December 02, 2011 11:50 AM (b6Lsz)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 02, 2011 11:50 AM (+lsX1)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 02, 2011 11:50 AM (1+CnU)
Of all the "gotcha" issues -- Hinckley shoots Reagan, let's push through the Brady Bill or brand its opponents as potential assassins; car wrecks cause bloody messes, let's lower the speed limit, mandate $1000s of extra costs in new cars, and lower BAC threshholds to half of what they were previously; people OD, let's have a war on drugs or brand its opponents as stoners -- child predation may be the worst. It's such a visceral issue that politicians can sneak in all sorts of frightening legislation in its name.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2011 11:50 AM (kaalw)
Posted by: Y-not, cookie queen at December 02, 2011 11:51 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: John at December 02, 2011 11:51 AM (D5sfV)
Posted by: Peter North at December 02, 2011 11:52 AM (b6Lsz)
Believe we much!!!!
Posted by: © Sponge at December 02, 2011 11:52 AM (UK9cE)
McCainBlogette Meghan McCain Yes, I had a moment on air and said "more smarter" instead of "much smarter". Live TV, I'm human, made a mistake. Give a girl a break! :-)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 02, 2011 03:49 PM (pLTLS)
Yes, but when meggie's panties get in a wad it warps the structure of spacetime.
Posted by: joncelli, who would really like to be 9 at December 02, 2011 11:52 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: t-bird at December 02, 2011 11:53 AM (FcR7P)
They've so caricatured us that they can't conceive that even rabid social conservatives value free speech over available filth.
Of course, it could be that if they were in that position, they would have censored the internet of "hate speech", which would of course, quickly be "nonliberal speech".
Posted by: AmishDude at December 02, 2011 11:53 AM (T0NGe)
This weekend, I shall Salute Newt.
(Actually, brb)
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at December 02, 2011 11:53 AM (qiOph)
Posted by: Asia Carrera at December 02, 2011 11:54 AM (b6Lsz)
Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2011 11:54 AM (o+SC1)
Then I realized that Poles, Frenchmen, and Russians don't.
Posted by: Michael Jordan at December 02, 2011 11:54 AM (W8x1p)
McCainBlogette Meghan McCain Yes, I had a moment on air and said "more smarter" instead of "much smarter". Live TV, I'm human, made a mistake. Give a girl a break! :-)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 02, 2011 03:49 PM
I'm more human! Like give a girl a brake!
Posted by: Meghan McCain, English is my 2nd language at December 02, 2011 11:56 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Ace's Friday nights at December 02, 2011 11:56 AM (b6Lsz)
Even the right doesn't know what the right is like. All you have to do is look at this site to see the over reaction and villification of the dreaded "SOCONS".
Posted by: kdny at December 02, 2011 11:56 AM (SrCor)
Posted by: Saudi Arabia at December 02, 2011 11:57 AM (ggRof)
Posted by: Penfold at December 02, 2011 11:57 AM (1PeEC)
62 54 40 Aw. Princess has her panties in a wad....
McCainBlogette Meghan McCain Yes, I had a moment on air and said "more smarter" instead of "much smarter". Live TV, I'm human, made a mistake. Give a girl a break! :-)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 02, 2011 03:49 PM
I'm more human! Like give a girl a brake!
--
I'm more humaner. Fixed it for ya.
Posted by: Senator Exon at December 02, 2011 11:58 AM (YWZwH)
Posted by: Asia Carrera at December 02, 2011 03:54 PM (b6Lsz)
Hey, she's a Mensa member and former concert pianist.
Posted by: taylork at December 02, 2011 11:58 AM (5wsU9)
They need to keep the government out of internet entirely but Obama is trying to kill that as well.
Oh, and piss on Mother Jones. Most of the shit they print is "indecent" as is the word I just used "shit".
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 11:59 AM (YdQQY)
McCainBlogette Meghan McCain Yes, I had a moment on air and said "more smarter" instead of "much smarter". Live TV, I'm human, made a mistake. Give a girl a break! :-)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 02, 2011 03:49 PM (pLTLS)
Dear Meghan: #1: You're response should be to make fun of yourself. Since you didn't, it shows you're a thin-skinned prick.
#2: Want to be immune from criticism? Become a Democrat. You're halfway there.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 02, 2011 12:00 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Penfold at December 02, 2011 03:57 PM
Good, somebody forgot to put a new roll in here
Posted by: Jon Corzine at December 02, 2011 12:00 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Third Fluffer From The Left in "100 Guy Creampie #250" at December 02, 2011 12:00 PM (o+SC1)
Despite your obvious attempts to change our minds, this is one Evangelical Christian Conservative who will continue to vote for Newt (or Cain for that matter) before Mitt or Perry.
Please Ace, lead tomorrow off with some 5000 word post on how it was Newt Gingrich, himself, that started the Log Cabin Republicans, and how Newt, and Newt himself, secretly brought about the invention of pedophilia.....maybe then you could try to scare off some Christians from voting for him.
Posted by: doug at December 02, 2011 12:01 PM (gUGI6)
Posted by: The Grand Canyon at December 02, 2011 12:03 PM (+i7bT)
Posted by: Not a prude at December 02, 2011 12:03 PM (LNRLz)
Please adjust your tinfoil. There is no underlying message here.
Posted by: taylork at December 02, 2011 12:04 PM (5wsU9)
Posted by: Not a prude at December 02, 2011 12:04 PM (LNRLz)
Doubt it. Porn is one of the main drivers of technological innovation.
Posted by: taylork at December 02, 2011 12:05 PM (5wsU9)
Posted by: Racist, Right-Wing Terrorist in Midwest...Or Tea Party Member for Short at December 02, 2011 12:05 PM (fOPv7)
Posted by: Alec Baldwin The Colostomy Bag® at December 02, 2011 12:06 PM (9wLy+)
Posted by: booger at December 02, 2011 12:06 PM (EjNp5)
Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2011 12:08 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Burt TC at December 02, 2011 12:10 PM (TOk1P)
So Newt embraced the AOS lifestyle BEFORE there was even an AOS.
What is holding up your endorsement, Ace?
Posted by: connertown at December 02, 2011 12:10 PM (+q3dR)
But on the occasion when Newt goes wrong, he'll jump completely off the tracks and it'll take a huge effort to get him pointed in the right direction again.
Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2011 04:08 PM (o+SC1)
I think the biggest question at this point is which one will surround themselves with people that don't suck like Odipshit has.
Posted by: © Sponge at December 02, 2011 12:11 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: jimmuy at December 02, 2011 12:12 PM (lJ+rM)
Posted by: Soona at December 02, 2011 12:12 PM (ujDRj)
i am not a Mitt-witt but here is my thing on Newt-
I could see Newt doing all of the following-
Bush's perscription drug coverage
Bush's no union left behind education money pump
Unemployment extensions for ever
Cap and trade
Solyndra type green energy schemes
Course, I can see Mitt doing all that too.
We screwed.
We screwed.
Posted by: kdny at December 02, 2011 12:14 PM (SrCor)
Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2011 12:15 PM (o+SC1)
Mother Jones is obviously completely clueless as to what conservatives care about. Thank goodness Newt stopped this retarded internet censorship bill back then.
But I still don't want him as President...
Posted by: OSUsux at December 02, 2011 12:15 PM (DFXmi)
Posted by: Soona at December 02, 2011 12:17 PM (ujDRj)
Teenagers who are sent naked pics by other teens may face prison time and registration for life as a sex offender.
CGI child porn -- that doesn't actually involve actual children -- may be legal in some jurisdictions....but you have to go to the Supreme Court to find out.
And, of course, if you take pictures of your kids in the bath, don't be surprised if you get a visit from the child protection people.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2011 12:18 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: OSUsux at December 02, 2011 12:18 PM (DFXmi)
Posted by: taylork at December 02, 2011 04:05 PM (5wsU9)
Really? I call shennanigans.
Posted by: BetaMax at December 02, 2011 12:18 PM (84pE9)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at December 02, 2011 12:20 PM (ijjAe)
O'Reilly has a great many fans in the Republican Party out here. I've lost count of how many hold the view that the first amendment only applied to the press. Not radio, TV, or internet. Some of these same Republicans also supported the assault weapons ban since obviously the second amendment only applies to flint locks.
Posted by: Bob Saget at December 02, 2011 12:25 PM (SDkq3)
Heinlein had a good quote for people who want to get rid of porn. He called them the Mrs Grundy's of the world who were terribly afraid that somewhere someone was having fun and it was their job to stamp it out.
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 12:30 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: taylork at December 02, 2011 04:05 PM (5wsU9)
Really? I call shennanigans.
Posted by: BetaMax at December 02, 2011 04:18 PM (84pE9)
No, it's true!
Posted by: Pic viewer slide show function at December 02, 2011 12:33 PM (TOk1P)
Okay, I think Newt just secured the votes of the entire male population for the next 8 years and yes including the vote of our scoamf.
Now that this is over, who are we running in 2020?
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at December 02, 2011 12:37 PM (97AKa)
Well thanks alot Newt you as##ole.. Now the fu##*ing youngstes are gonna be picking up 7 new sh**ty *uck%$# words they never would have heard before.
Posted by: no sniveling at December 02, 2011 12:41 PM (GgAdp)
@48: "Lacey's comment about the mustache reminded me, what is up with Michael Jordan and the Hitler stache? "
Hitler 'stache is reg, Pappy.
Posted by: Wassik from Generation Kill at December 02, 2011 12:41 PM (jAqTK)
FIFY
Oh, and is Mother Jones laboring under the delusion somebody is going to read the article?
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at December 02, 2011 12:49 PM (Qxdfp)
even just type one of the "seven words you can't say on television"—and you could face a $100,000 fine or up to two years in prison
What sort of fuckery is this, you suckers of barbed cock and fuckers of goats? come and get me, you mutha fuckin' neoPuritans!
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at December 02, 2011 01:05 PM (1hM1d)
I know a guy. He's a black helicopter, FEMA camps, buy-a-rifle-to-fight-the-feds type fellow. He was so alarmed when the FCC took over the internet. Yet he is constantly talking about how the government should censor content on the internet.
Talk about contradictory beliefs.
Posted by: WeekendAtBernankes at December 02, 2011 01:21 PM (L5TO4)
Posted by: taylork at December 02, 2011 04:05 PM (5wsU9)
Nah. Computer gaming drives computer innovations - faster processors, better video, more memory. Etc.
Posted by: lorien1973 at December 02, 2011 01:27 PM (usXZy)
Remember when the the only good thing the left could say about Cheney was how nice his lesbian daughter was?
This is the same thing.
And both Dem candidates (pres and vice pres) Kerry and Edwards went there in the official debates.
Posted by: Have Blue at December 02, 2011 01:29 PM (IKTC8)
Posted by: steevy at December 02, 2011 01:30 PM (7WJOC)
Credit where credit is due.
Posted by: Sherman Scain, CEO, Big Sausage Pizza at December 02, 2011 01:39 PM (tPqaR)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at December 02, 2011 02:26 PM (vahvH)
Posted by: Voting-Age Nebraskan at December 02, 2011 02:57 PM (KbGY6)
Posted by: Kasper Hauser at December 02, 2011 03:09 PM (1CXpM)
Posted by: Burke at December 02, 2011 03:16 PM (wmdMN)
Posted by: PugBoo TeaPug Jihadist Former Level Two Escroter at December 02, 2011 03:19 PM (V6pJz)
I'm beginning to think Ace actually has active connections with Republican establishment. Just today the news comes out that Iowa evangelicals can't agree on who to vote for, then Ace comes out with this coordinated attack....
It's as if the Cain thing (you know, the one where this blog ran countless stories trying to cut down his support), was coordinated and now they all are going to start the same thing on Newt.
I'm still befuddled on which of the establishment's candidates Mitt or Perry, that they are trying to benefit.
I'm thinking that the old Republican establishment is backing Romney and are cleverly using Ace and the newer establishment as their lackeys, setting them up by having them think that their man Perry has a chance.
Posted by: doug at December 02, 2011 03:40 PM (gUGI6)
Posted by: halodoc at December 02, 2011 04:07 PM (gLiPk)
Posted by: Farmer Joe at December 02, 2011 04:32 PM (w3Ocj)
Posted by: Encyclopedia Mythologica iBooks at December 02, 2011 04:38 PM (rqZsd)
Posted by: The LEGO Ideas Book ePub at December 02, 2011 05:18 PM (Yl6rb)
Wow that article was sureal, I almost thought I had stumbled onto a website run by the Committee For the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice and that any minute I would trip an audio file screaming
Death to the Demon Gingrich and the Blasphemous First Amendment!!
You know like Ayman al-Zawahri promoted that the real enemy of the Faithful was democracy the filthy doctrine which said Men could make their own laws instead of the abiding by the Perfect Law given to us by Allah in the Koran,.
These folks act really ticked off about Newt doing what he did.
Posted by: Dan Kauffman at December 02, 2011 05:32 PM (5ZsaL)
IÂ’ve been looking everywhere for this! Thank goodness I found it on Bing.Thx
Posted by: The Soul Mirror AudioBook at December 02, 2011 05:49 PM (AiJJw)
Posted by: Extra Virginity ePub at December 02, 2011 08:53 PM (AiJJw)
I hate how the media assumes all conservatives are Bible-thumping prudes because of people like Falwell and Huckabee. Sure, there are pleny of socio-cons, but I couldn't care less if Gingrich "saved porn." In fact, that's a point in his favor. It shows he respects individual liberty.
I have no problem with porn. Children shouldn't be exposed to it...but then again, they shouldn't be exposed to South Park, either. That's up to parents.
Posted by: DRayRaven at December 03, 2011 03:38 AM (4kYSc)
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Okay, second look at Gingrich.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at December 02, 2011 11:40 AM (W8x1p)