1
Don't confuse me with the facts!

2 Everybody knew Clinton lied like hell but everybody loved him 'cause gas was around $1.00/gal and smokes $1.00/pack.

Only inflation -- particularly $5.00/gal gas -- will really hurt Obama.

3 MFM = CGI

4
It's simply those lucky rich people who won life's lottery, and we need to cut them down to size. 

And redistribute their money to our voters.

5

This is entrepreneurial thinking.

Love it!

6 So the way to get to Obama is to attack the mushy, careless middle for the thumbless cretins they are?  I gotta tell you, I've been doing that for years, and I can't tell any difference.

7 That's ok.  Gas prices are getting ready to wake up the hard of hearing.

8
Redistribution of wealth is the only way we can guarantee equality for the alcoholics, drug addicts, lay-abouts, neer-do-wells, and baby popping ho's.

9 Quit bringing up Natalie Portman's ass. The girl is unjackable.

10 Yes, Ace, over a half-century of polls support your basic point here:

Only one in six adults can identify the Demo and Rep positions on three or more current issues.

Most people vote on the basis of how they perceive the candidate to be helpful to themselves and the group(s) they identify with

11 Posted by: Ed Anger at April 18, 2011 03:09 PM (7+pP9)

How am I supposed to submit well reasoned insight, if you are going to do it before me?  Hmm?

12 Trump is nice to have around because he's a bomb thrower. But a) that's all he brings to the table, and b) it lacks the substance we need to defeat Obama.

13 above average, Natalie's ass is.  

That Irish lass who dived in the water for Portman ain't half bad, either  ( nice cheeks )

14
Redistribution of wealth is the only way we can guarantee equality for the alcoholics, drug addicts, lay-abouts, neer-do-wells, and baby popping ho's.



I'm childless, you idiot teebaggers.

15 They aren't squishy independents as we would like to think, they're cynical about us as much as they're cynical about the liberals. We will never get Peggy Joseph to admit that Obama isn't paying for her gas and mortgage but the swing vote sure as hell will be motivated against obama, if not by now, by 2012. Even if Obama was telling the truth about everything, the numbers for his term suck. deficits ($200billion versus $2trillion), jobs (4.5% versus 9+%), wars (2 versus 3), inflation (none versus 10%), taxes (low versus uncertain). But I think what Ace would like to do is to appeal to the center's cynical nature...or appreciation that they're voting for the lesser of 2 evils. In this case, show that -regardless of Tina Fey's impression of Palin (the deciding factor in 200 - Obama is a cynical bad guy. Fine, crony capitalism, what it really mean, like the government buying GM, or shutting down poker websites because they hate competition. Union thugs not being thugs but being well paid lazy fucks. That is, no right thinking person, even liberals, wants a lazy fuck in a rubber room getting six figures plus pension. Make these things Obama's and the centrists will hate him.

16 Without the cooperation of the press even the most brilliant strategy will be most difficult. On a subject the press is happy to report, I suggest the birthers change their strategy to make it more about historical record keeping than about politics. Present the fact that we don't even know what hospital Obama was born in and that collecting information like this for our National Archives is an American tradition and Obama refuses to cooperate.

17 The "mushy middle"??? I still don't think that there is enough of those to vote in a city council member in Podunck, Indiana.

Of actual voters what you have are Dems and Republicans and a very few who truly do not know hat they are. The Dems don't give a damn what the issues are.  The only thing they care about is voting their own paychecks (unions and non-tax payers) and yellow dog Dems who will never vote anything but Dem until the day they die.

Republicans on the other hand do care what the issues are because their are the famous three legs of the Republican stool. The fiscal/libertarian cons want a candidate who supports small government and low taxes. The social cons want a government who supports "family values" and in some case religion. The defense cons want a hawk.

So they all follow candidates stands on "their" favorite issues.

18
It's senseless to listen to the drone of political discourse when you can do one-stop shopping with either Bill Maher, David Axelrod, or Christiane Amanpour, guardian's of everything politically relevant.

19 The mushy middle are liars. They know the fucking issues, they just don't have the balls to elect a madman to actually do something about it.

20 Ace, I like what you are doing here. I totally understand what you want. We have smart people; need to come out with some kick ass videos.

21

To me this is big news: S&P downgrades US debt. 

Not surprising, just big.  And on cue, the White House attacks the messenger without substantive arguments against the rationale. 

Obama just dinged our national credit.  Don't think that's happened in my lifetime.  Not sure.   

22 OT, but WTF?  If this is true, why the hell would the Russians sell Iran this kind of stuff?  First nuclear tech and now advanced missile tech?

Cable: Russia sells missile technology to Iran

/7000 miles?  Iran could then put a nuke anywhere on Earth if they've managed to adapt this technology. 

23 I think it's as good a tactic as any, but I'm not sure how effective it would be anyway.

I really think there are a lot of people out there looking for an alternative to Obama.  I think we were in a similar situation in 2004 when Bush was up for re-election.  That's why Howard Dean did so well (until his implosion) and why the Democrats ended up with John F'n Kerry.  (Situation now reversed, of course, and that outcome was the better of the possible choices).

What Republicans really need to do is get out there, now, and start making their case: "This is what I would do different."  Be as specific as possible.  Make sure your factual statements can be backed up- and always, without fail, produce your sources.  Especially when people don't ask for them.  And they need to make no bones about doing it more on Fox than anywhere else- because Fox will let them say what they have to say so that the American People can hear it unfiltered.

When primary season gets underway in earnest- here in a few months- the Republican field needs to be ready and girded for battle- but they need to fight with facts, and with tactics, and with "this is what I would do."  Then, when the primary season is over, everyone needs to get on board with the winner, and the Republicans need to push their agenda.

Something like this:

GStrepanopuls: "Mr. Obama is proposing to eliminate the deficit in 12 years by closing tax loopholes.  Why do you want old people and children to starve?"

Republican Du'jor:  "The Republican vision for the future is one with increased opportunity for everyone.  This requires reducing the deficit- in as many fewer years than 12 as is possible- but also requires we make the least negative impact on people's wallets as possible.  We're proposing to cut as much government out of your life as possible- with the government only doing those things the Constitution requires it to do."

GS: "But that would kill Social Security, which would kill Seniors.  You senior hater."

RD'J: "Social Security is neither.  It pits our most matured assets- our seniors- against those with the most potential- our youth.  This provides neither a sound social foundation, nor security for the future.  We have made promises, and there are people today who cannot survive if we do not fulfill them.  To those, we will keep those promises which were made, in bad faith, by prior Congresses.  For those who are not yet dependent upon the government for their survival, we suggest they find ways to mature and exploit their abilities to take care of themselves, their families, their friends, and their neighbors.  If everyone works to their best ability, you won't need Social Security."

Now- obviously- my specific wording won't sell.  But that's the message we need to get across, and I don't think negativity towards Obama- beyond that required to "maintain" the principle that he's an unprincipled sack of excrement- is the way to do that.

However bad Carter was, Reagan didn't beat him by saying "He's a jackwagon."

24
All I know about politics I learned from Oprah and Sean Penn.

25 So, in other words.....we're fucked, right?

26

On a subject the press is happy to report, I suggest the birthers change their strategy to make it more about historical record keeping than about politics. Present the fact that we don't even know what hospital Obama was born in and that collecting information like this for our National Archives is an American tradition and Obama refuses to cooperate.


Posted by: polynikes at April 18, 2011 03:18 PM (7sQ6G)

You know, his ego is going to demand he have the biggest presidential library ever built.  Its also going to be one the most devoid of anything of the president its named for.  But they can fill that in with racial struggle garbage.

27 We need someone who can articulate the message calmly and convincingly.  Who could that be?

28
Obama just dinged our national credit.  Don't think that's happened in my lifetime. 

Posted by: Beagle at April 18, 2011 03:21 PM (sOtz/)

Even during the worst years of Jimmah Cartah, with muni's at 12-14%, the long bond between 12-14 1/2%, and CD's at a high of 18-20%, S&P never spoke of downgrade of the AAA rating. 

Yes, O'Bongo is the worst president ever including Jimmah!

29

If, I say IF we had a clear candidate on the conservative side maybe that person would be willing to take your advice Ace but unfortunatly we've only got the Donald making his rounds on the talk show circuit...Someone please step up to the plate!

 

30 I agree with Ed Anger, everyone,EVERYONE knows the guy is a bald faced liar and I'll go as far as to say everyone knows he is a radical Marxist who is doing his best to drive the country into the ground so that it will maybe rise like a phoenix from the ashes into some super awesome centralized socialist government. We have to do better than pointing out the obvious, he is a liar.What we need are political leaders who will hammer this Bolshevik night and day on all that he has done and all that he is doing whenever a camera is around. Palin, Bachman and at times Ryan seem to be the only ones who are taking it to him, everyone else is in the McCain statesman like bullshit mode. The fact that Republican leaders are rolling over at every turn scores no points either, in fact it is doing untold harm that is sure to be seen come 2012.

31 You think you can just sneak that into a six month spending bill?  You think you can nickel & dime me like that?  You think we're stupid?

C'mon.  It was a miscommunication, and you know it.

32

Posted by: Drider at April 18, 2011 03:26 PM

I couldn't agree more. We need someone to take the fucking gloves off and start hammering this boner.

33
Yes, O'Bongo is the worst president ever including Jimmah!




I've always had a lot of sympathy for the crew of the USS Jimmy Carter. Can you imagine the "Boy Named Sue" effect of the USS JugEars?

34 And speaking of articulate communication, how come every Republican politician doesn't take that graph of income levels with him every time he goes on TV?

This ain't rocket science.

35

I really don't think there can be a mushy middle right now.  I think both sides have their ground firmly staked out.  I do, however, strongly believe that there is a mushy-brained middle.  Good luck trying to influence them with tactics. 

I think one big mistake that the right makes is assuming that everyone basically has a functioning brain.  The left knows better and plays this for everything it's worth.

36 22 OT, but WTF?  If this is true, why the hell would the Russians sell Iran this kind of stuff?  First nuclear tech and now advanced missile tech?

Cable: Russia sells missile technology to Iran

/7000 miles?  Iran could then put a nuke anywhere on Earth if they've managed to adapt this technology. 

Dammit.  They beat me to it.

37 I've always had a lot of sympathy for the crew of the USS Jimmy Carter. Can you imagine the "Boy Named Sue" effect of the USS JugEars?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 18, 2011 03:28 PM (sBoN3)

Heh.  USS Dick Butkis.

38
21 Our deficit just got bigger with that action and is fixing to get worse.
Advice: Buy stuff now like a motorcycle and ammunition. Better than investing in gold.

39
everyone else is in the McCain statesman like bullshit mode.

Posted by: Drider at April 18, 2011 03:26 PM (HaJD9)

President McCain is not pleased with your response sir. 

40 I've been re-posting all of these fiscal articles on my Facerbook page,for what it's worth. I'm not sure how my apolitical friends are taking it, but I know that they set off the moonbats....

41

Here's the thing.  I don't like personal attacks anymore than anyone else.  "Joe Schmoe wants to kill women, children and newborn puppies!" is not going to make me support his opponent.  And coming out and saying, "Obama is an idiot and a liar and a hypocrite!" isn't going to work either. 

BUT!

Obama IS an idiot, a liar, and a hypocrite, and there's no clearer way to demonstrate that to the American public than by doing a simple split screen commercial with "Before" and "After" Obama footage.

BEFORE:  Candidate Obama - "I will not use signing statements"
AFTER:  President Obama - Uses signing statements

BEFORE: Senator Obama - "The President can't go into foreign conflict without Congressional approval."
AFTER: President Obama - Goes into foreign conflict in Libya without Congressional approval.

Etc, etc.

You go into the fight armed with the truth and the proof, and let the audience draw the conclusions themselves. 

"Hey... he's a total hypocrite!" 

"Wow, I didn't believe it when everyone told me he was a liar, but... well... facts don't lie.  Apparently Obama does."

It's policy AND personal, tied into one.  Because with Obama, they're the same thing.  That's what happens when the stupidest 52% of the country's voting public decides to elect a blatant narcissist to the most powerful office in the world.

42 Obama just dinged our national credit.  Don't think that's happened in my lifetime.  Not sure.  

Left's response:   Boooooshhhh!!11111!!!!

43 Advice: Buy stuff now like a motorcycle and ammunition. Better than investing in gold.

A dirt bike is better than a motorcycle.  A surplus jeep (if you can find fuel) is even better.

44
The only liberal I know broke contact with me over my insistence that O'Dumbo is driving the country into insolvency.  He's a lawyer, so he can fuck himself.........twice....once for being a lawyer and the other for loving Obama.

45 I think the main problem between repubs and dems is pride. You talk to a dem and all you get is the country sucks, we suck, the man sucks etc etc. There is no pride in the country at all.

Talk to a repub, and there is pride. He believes in the country, and its people a hell of a lot more than an ass sucking dem.

And THATS where they go wrong. They place such high regard on the US population that they can't see half of them are too fucking stupid to close an umbrella or count their balls and come up with the same number twice. Because of that they don't do a hell of a lot of selling of ideas, because they assume people can reason things out. We know damn well 52% can't.

 Bush sat on his fucking ass for 8 years and took hit after hit by the left for this very reason. He assumed the population could see through the shit.

yeah right.

46 Then again, everyone knew he was lying about shit on the campaign trail, they just didn't know about what.

47 I believe its time to connect the presidents unicorns and rainbows energy policy with inflation and death for fixed income types. Its a slam dunk, and its unanswerable.

48
It's politically incorrect to email a photo of Obama with a chimp face, but politically correct to call Bush McChimpy, Chimp, Chump, Hitler, or post photos of Bush with a monkey body.

49 And THATS where they go wrong. They place such high regard on the US population that they can't see half of them are too fucking stupid to close an umbrella or count their balls and come up with the same number twice. Because of that they don't do a hell of a lot of selling of ideas, because they assume people can reason things out. We know damn well 52% can't.

Naw.  I think most conservatives would say that the population has been infantilized by a nanny-state gummint.  American exceptionalism ain't about the American people du jour, it's about the institutions and ideas the country was founded on.

Besides, we know that people are imperfect.  That's why we want gummint to be small and unobtrusive.

50

OT: 

While we're on the subject of underhanded, morally bankrupt, misguided, ignorant, narcissistic, infinitely corrupt asshattedness... Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you THE D.O.J.

(link to Pajamas Media)

51
Then again, everyone knew he was lying about shit on the campaign trail, they just didn't know about what.

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 18, 2011 03:37 PM (QxSug)

It is my belief that the Smoking Gun in Obama's election was foreign donations, and we will never discover the true extent of his criminality without a conservative AG, and possibly never?

52 ""It's politically incorrect to email a photo of Obama with a chimp face, but politically correct to call Bush McChimpy, Chimp, Chump, Hitler, or post photos of Bush with a monkey body""

I have a few leftard inlaws that called bush mcchimpy. When it was my turn I said straight out obama should be sent into retirement to live out his days in kenya dressed in a loincloth and hunting monkeys with a blowgun.

53 Ace: "The mushy, careless middle which doesn't think too hard about these things loves to believe all it cares about is "substance" but in fact they can't be troubled."

That's why I'm always demanding we have "a conversation" about troubling, vital issues. I loves me some conversation. After "American Idol," of course. And just conversing. No actual action which would... oh look, a squirrel!

54 President McCain is not pleased with your response sir. Well Mr. Fish McCain can just go and blow it out his ass then, can't he.

55 ""Naw.  I think most conservatives would say that the population has been infantilized by a nanny-state gummint.  American exceptionalism ain't about the American people du jour, it's about the institutions and ideas the country was founded on.""



Conservatives, not republicans. I'm talking run of the mill repubs, like Bush was, kinda squishy.

56
.....obama should be sent into retirement to live out his days in kenya dressed in a loincloth and hunting monkeys with a blowgun.

Posted by: Berserker at April 18, 2011 03:43 PM (FMbng)

..Now that is funny!

57 Conservatives, not republicans. I'm talking run of the mill repubs, like Bush was, kinda squishy.

Posted by: Berserker at April 18, 2011 03:45 PM (FMbng)

He had a liberal foreign policy and a liberal domestic policy.  Other than that, he was a compassionate conservative.

58 Bush claimed to be a compassionate conservative, and there again he expected people to know what the hell he was talking about. Bush was not one to sell ideas, this is my point. You can't just toss an idea out there and not sell it.  The JEF gives 1000 speeches to sell a shit sandwich nobody wants. Repubs toss out an idea and then count on people to figure it out. They need to sell, sell, SELL.

59 ACE
You are a f***ing political genius.
I thank our lucky stars that you are on our side.

60 Public attacks on their character are long overdue....Americans are ready when it is the TRUTH!

61 I also promised to read every word of every bill submitted to me before signing, Ace.

62 I would agree Ace, except for 'he's historic and post-partisan, and he's for change.' If we show him to not only be hyper-partisan, but also a huge fat liar on all things big and small (Gitmo, signing statements, lobyists, war) WITH HIS OWN WORDS, its not a personal attack, it is public education that if we had an unbiased media, would not need to be done. He would have been laughed out of the office by now if we had a true media watchdog.

63

obama is a sociopath.

it explains how the media's been charmed by him,

it explains his continous lies after lies,

it explains his demeaner,

msm is in complete deniel --(examples--->In Chuck Whitlock's fascinating book, Scam School, Whitlock gives example after example: a minister who convinces an elderly woman to give him her home, a man who marries women in order to extract a large sum and then disappears, a woman who murdered elderly male borders for their social security checks, a man who used a ponzi scheme to convince others to invest in spurious investments, and on and on. I have met people like this on serveral occasions. They appear to be creative, charming, often attractive, charismatic)

it explains how soldiers are dying and obama is golfing.

64

Um, Palin did in her WI speech.

...ThatÂ’s right; on this, White House, you lie.

You can say what you want about her, but at least give her credit for having the guts to tell it like it is.   Not of this bullshit "misspoke" crap.

She called him out on a hell of a lot in WI.   At least give her credit where credit is due.

65 Great points!!  I know how to attack Obama--support staunch conservatives like Mike Castle in primaries.  That will draw the distinction with the American people!!!

66 .......nooooooooooooooooooooooo........

67 Hey, good one Ace. I like your take on this packaging idea. Point for point, very interesting.

68 Just have Trump call him out for the fucking liar he is every chance he gets.

69 here's an idea i don't have the skilz or time to do, but think would be a devistating  add against obama

show an obama promise...say.."the health care debates will be televised"
followed by a bug red  "FAIL"
followed by another promise.."all bills will be posted on the internet for 72 hours before being voted on"...."FAIL"
repeat...repeat...repeat
be sure to use video of obama making the promise, so the left cannot dispute the promise..
you could probably come up with an hour or so of these broken promises.
a series of 60 second political adds run nation wide would pretty much destroy obama's re-election bid by branding him a shameless liar with his own words.
anyone who wants to undertake this task is more than welcome to the idea, free of charge, or recognition, all i want is obama gone.

70 Obama's weakness really isn't complicated. The catchword is "competence". As with President Bush hit that competence enough and Obama has about as much chance of survival as a package of Twinkies does spending the night at Michael Moore's house. Ed Anger is right. Consider the Clinton re-election. The mushers couldn't have cared less about lies and character. They cared about their portfolios, job prospects and being worry free about foreign threats. Obama is in deep doo doo.

71 Please encourage all Leftoids to vote for Nader when he makes his inevitable run. It's the only way to reverse Obama's disgusting move to the middle!

72 Sample campaign advertisement:

Video of Obama's recent statement: "Let me be clear.  I will do X to ensure Y."

Video from Obama's 2008 campaign: "Let me be clear, I will do Y to ensure X will not happen."

Repeat ad nauseum; there must be innumerable examples of this by now - on almost every issue - and though political junkies claim they hate "Gotcha!" politics, "independents" respond to it.  Destroy the man's credibility, but in a neutral way.

Then cap it off with a voice over like this:

"Obama promised to change Washington.  Instead, Washington changed him.  We need someone with the strength to stand up to those special interests.    We need [insert candidate name here]."

73 Q.How can you tell OBAMAS lying?   A. His lips are moving

74 I don't know if it is an effective meme but it has the advantage that even liberal Democrats accept it as true is when somebody complains about the high gas price, reply that at least Obama has kept one campaign promise and energy prices have skyrocketed.

75

Pathetic.  How do the weasels at the Demorat Party attack?  On the issues or just attacks on character?  Do they bother with the truth or broker lies and slanders.

?

 

 

Did Obama win?

 

Get real.