April 27, 2011

Huckabee Out?
Denied

— Ace

He was getting pressured by Fox to make up his mind one way or another (due to their position that they would have to let him go, should he be a live candidate), and a report says he's given the would-be members of his South Carolina political team the go-ahead to work for other candidates.

That's the report, I stress.

This is wacky. I figured he'd run.

He's still at the top of the polls, or close to the top.

I'd run under those circumstances. It's a toss up.

Well, I wouldn't run. I'm lazy. I'd just watch TV.

But if I had greater energy and drive, like Huckabee, I'd run.

Update: At the same Hot Air link, Huck's team denies the story, and says they still haven't decided.

Posted by: Ace at 02:39 PM | Comments (159)
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1 Blog fucked?

Posted by: Ed Anger at April 27, 2011 02:41 PM (7+pP9)

2 Chuck fuckabee !

Posted by: Jackhole at April 27, 2011 02:41 PM (+qHxi)

3 Lord, please.

Some mentally-challenged viewer on Fox & Friends Morning Zoo Crew e-mailed his dream ticket:

Trump/Huckabee

I hadn't even had my first cup of coffee.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2011 02:42 PM (UOM48)

4

and a report says he's Posted by:Ace at 06:39 PM

Dammit man, don't tease us like that!

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 27, 2011 02:42 PM (WRW1S)

5 Step by Step, we tip-toe toward a second Obama term.

Why are Republicans so terrified of running against the worst President in American history, during the worst economy in two generations, with gas going to $5 or $6 a gallon?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2011 02:42 PM (kUaEF)

6 The fact that he can't raise 2 red cents weighs heavily in his decision. The bad news is he will continue to be on Fox.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at April 27, 2011 02:43 PM (qIHlG)

7 Uh, the link at HA has an update w/the denial.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 27, 2011 02:43 PM (yJ7/V)

8 Update: Still no decision, says Team Huck.

Posted by: Ed Anger at April 27, 2011 02:43 PM (7+pP9)

9 Nah, he'd've done poorly in Iowa and for a known candidate, that's death.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2011 02:43 PM (T0NGe)

10 I never support the Huckster nor would I ( yeah yeah I'd vote for road kill before Obama ) so I 'm glad he is not running. Actually he looks like a real decent kinda of guy.

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 27, 2011 02:43 PM (7wmOW)

11 Step by Step, we tip-toe toward a second Obama term.

Why are Republicans so terrified of running against the worst President in American history, during the worst economy in two generations, with gas going to $5 or $6 a gallon?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2011 06:42 PM (kUaEF)

Probably because they got schooled by a neophyte last time

Posted by: Jackhole at April 27, 2011 02:44 PM (+qHxi)

12 Romney/West 2012!

Posted by: ParisParamus at April 27, 2011 02:44 PM (bgSjf)

13 Best news all day.  First the birthers are made irrelevant, now this. All we need is the Donald and Palin to officially bail out and the circus will be over.  We can have a real candidate and a real shot of ousting Obumbles.

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at April 27, 2011 02:44 PM (HwE/1)

14 He's got a huge mortgage!

Posted by: BatterBlasta at April 27, 2011 02:44 PM (Kq/LG)

15 13 "Best news all day.  First the birthers are made irrelevant, now this. All we need is the Donald and Palin to officially bail out and the circus will be over.  We can have a real candidate and a real shot of ousting Obumbles."

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at April 27, 2011 06:44 PM (HwE/1)


Real candidate?  You mean Ron Paul?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2011 02:46 PM (kUaEF)

16 This helps one man......


Fred Thompson.

Posted by: Ace's Political Desk at April 27, 2011 02:47 PM (GC5/b)

17 President's salary doesn't pay for a house that costs a couple million in New York. He was out long ago. But being out, doesn't keep the speculators watching his show.

Posted by: SnowSoul at April 27, 2011 02:47 PM (+7e79)

18

Update: Still no decision, says Team Huck.

Just saw that; he says he'll make a decision in the summer.

Without a team behind him and entering late, I have to wonder what he's thinking here. As much as I disapprove of him, I think he'd be a stong contender in a weak field.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 27, 2011 02:47 PM (WRW1S)

19 HAPPY FUN-BALL!!!

Posted by: Funniest SNL Skit Evah at April 27, 2011 02:47 PM (Kq/LG)

20 Out, please.

Posted by: CMU VET at April 27, 2011 02:47 PM (cC6s1)

21 Huck will keep twisting until he sees me.

Posted by: reason at April 27, 2011 02:48 PM (0GucZ)

22

President's salary doesn't pay for a house that costs a couple million

 

You need to be a Senator for that kind of income!

Posted by: Barack 'Husseinus Africanus' Obama at April 27, 2011 02:49 PM (Kq/LG)

23 Jowly Jeebus wants a few more months of free campaign time to stare into the camera and try to look smart and concerned.

About stuff.

Posted by: sifty at April 27, 2011 02:49 PM (ei2Q9)

24 Hey, Ace! Are we going to get a Justified thread? Tonight's the second to last episode. The last episode is called "Bloody Harlan." No mystery that there is going to be an all out war between the Mags clan and Raylan's people's clan. The mystery is who and how many people get taken out. I'm worried that Nick Searcy may take a bullet. I think Mags will, too, though she is an evil enough villain to bring back. Winona or Eva may have their contracts terminated. And how about sniperboy? That's where the excitement lies - who lives, who dies. Can we take bets?

Posted by: Bloody Mary at April 27, 2011 02:49 PM (dDbkT)

25 Ron Paul!!!!!

Posted by: robtr at April 27, 2011 02:49 PM (MtwBb)

26 He wont run if palin does. She'll have to drop a hint on fox or something. Huckabee has a giant mortgage in florida, he has A LOT of skeletons, the guy cant fundraise, and plus he is fat as a cpw with no indication of losing weight.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 27, 2011 02:49 PM (V+VTK)

27

Nah, he'd've done poorly in Iowa and for a known candidate, that's death.

Huh?  He'd have to play catch-up with his ground game, but he won IA in 2008 and remains popular there according to the polls.

I don't care for him, but I see little reason to believe that he wouldn't have a  good shot at winning IA and SC.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 27, 2011 02:49 PM (WRW1S)

28 We don't think he could stand the heat we would turn up his  bible thumping ass.

Posted by: Families Of Four Murdered Seattle LEO's at April 27, 2011 02:50 PM (EL+OC)

Posted by: momma aka at April 27, 2011 02:50 PM (penCf)

30 16 "This helps one man......


Fred Thompson."

Posted by: Ace's Political Desk at April 27, 2011 06:47 PM (GC5/b)


Do you MIND?  I'm trying to take a nap!

Posted by: Fred Thompson at April 27, 2011 02:51 PM (kUaEF)

31 Two words: Willie Horton 2.

Posted by: Joe Biden at April 27, 2011 02:51 PM (6MNtp)

32 Huckabee doesn't have a prayer against the Magnificent One. It's in the bible, look under Lawrence Chapter 2 verse 7. Tune in tomorrow for Chapter 3!

Posted by: Lawrence O'Donnell: Ultimate Theologian at April 27, 2011 02:51 PM (0vJ4C)

33 Huckleberry polls strongly among cop killers.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at April 27, 2011 02:51 PM (qIHlG)

34

He wont run if palin does. She'll have to drop a hint on fox or something. Huckabee has a giant mortgage in florida, he has A LOT of skeletons, the guy cant fundraise, and plus he is fat as a cpw with no indication of losing weight.

Huckabee and Palin appeal to different demographics.  She polls terrible in the South, and not that great in IA, either.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 27, 2011 02:51 PM (WRW1S)

35 yeah I'll do a justified thread... since I won't be watching at the time I'll have to avoid. (I have to watch it later, I haven't watched the last one yet.) What the hell? This is the last episode? They're still doing this half-season stuff?

Posted by: ace at April 27, 2011 02:52 PM (nj1bB)

36 Where's his Birth Certificate?

Posted by: Rocks at April 27, 2011 02:52 PM (th0op)

37 America isn't ready to elect another white Jimmah Carter when they can reelect the black one and save themselves the agony of feeling racist.

 Because Whoopi Fuckin Goldberg told them they were racist. And she wouldn't lie.




Posted by: sifty at April 27, 2011 02:53 PM (ei2Q9)

38 Where's his Birth Certificate? Posted by: Rocks at April 27, 2011 06:52 PM (th0op) He ate it

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 27, 2011 02:53 PM (7wmOW)

39 Don't run - Make big bank from Fox and eat all the fried squirrel he wants. Run - Sell dream house and lose weight only to get ass handed to him in the end. Yea, tough call.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2011 02:53 PM (TMB3S)

40 35:

Lots of the craftspeople are pissed about the shooting schedule on Justified. Not just the fans.

Some of the actors are shooting features this summer.


Posted by: sifty at April 27, 2011 02:54 PM (ei2Q9)

41 Jesus told Huckabee that he is, in fact, crazy. Go Jesus.

Posted by: railwriter at April 27, 2011 02:54 PM (daRzV)

42 Real candidate?  You mean Ron Paul?

Funny enough, I like to see Ron Paul running.  He can't win and I don't want him anywhere near the White House, but he'll keep talking about deep deep spending cuts and will keep the others from getting cowardly on the subject.

No, I meant real candidates like Daniels, TPaw, Christie (I can dream), etc...

And no, you freaks, Christie will not send the Gestapo to take your guns away.  You asses who talk that way sunk Castle and gave the Republicans their first deeply stupid Wiccan candidate in history.  So, you know, just shut up already.  You purity testers have done enough damage.

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at April 27, 2011 02:55 PM (HwE/1)

43 I haven't talked to a single person that says they will vote for him.  He'd be crazy to give up that job.

Posted by: ryukyu at April 27, 2011 02:55 PM (MOHSR)

44

WHAT A FUCKING FREAKSHOW THE REPUBLICAN FIELD IS.

Posted by: CAPTAIN ALL CAPS at April 27, 2011 02:55 PM (q177U)

45 Squirrels hardest hit;  Sales of popcorn cookers unexpectedly rise up. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 27, 2011 02:55 PM (c0A3e)

46 ELLLEVENTY!!1!1!!1111

Posted by: CAPTAIN ALL CAPS at April 27, 2011 02:55 PM (q177U)

47 The only way Huckabee is allowed to run is if they bring back Arsenio Hall and he goes on and plays Bass.

Posted by: Rocks at April 27, 2011 02:55 PM (th0op)

48

Without a team behind him.......

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 27, 2011 06:47 PM (WRW1S)

He still has "The Little Rockers".

Posted by: PoconoJoe at April 27, 2011 02:56 PM (Qetbx)

49 No, Ace, it's the second to last episode tonight. Next week is the last episode. Yeah, half season is all the rage. However, I read that last year they filmed 17 episodes and only aired 13. So, they filmed only 9 episodes this year. I hate these half seasons. BB starts 7/17 and Psych has been pushed back to Fall.

Posted by: Bloody Mary at April 27, 2011 02:56 PM (dDbkT)

50 Step by Step...

Niagara Falls?

Posted by: A wise guy at April 27, 2011 02:56 PM (vuMH7)

51 Huckleberry keeps saying people are asking him to run. Die in a fire sounds nothing like run.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at April 27, 2011 02:56 PM (qIHlG)

52 Born-again murderers with federal convictions are following this story closely.

Posted by: Cicero at April 27, 2011 02:56 PM (QKKT0)

53 WTF?!?! Psych was PUSHED BACK UNTIL FALL?!?!? why why why why?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 27, 2011 02:58 PM (SB0V2)

54 Huckabee and Palin appeal to different demographics.  She polls terrible in the South, and not that great in IA, either. ---------- I know you hate palin but i call bullshit. She appeals very in the south (ie evangelicals)

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 27, 2011 02:58 PM (V+VTK)

55 44

"WHAT A FUCKING FREAKSHOW THE REPUBLICAN FIELD IS."

Posted by: CAPTAIN ALL CAPS at April 27, 2011 06:55 PM (q177U)


Now, now, Trump IS running, after all...


NO, Wait!!

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2011 02:58 PM (kUaEF)

56 We just didn't trust his judgement.

Posted by: 4 Dead Cops at April 27, 2011 03:00 PM (cDRYC)

57 Fuckin Shemp is beamin over BO's BC...cock knocker.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 27, 2011 03:02 PM (uIz80)

58 It's because Obama released his birth certificate, isn't it?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2011 03:02 PM (kUaEF)

59 "WTF?!?! Psych was PUSHED BACK UNTIL FALL?!?!? why why why why?" Don't know but it's from the psych writers twitter site so it is not a rumor.

Posted by: Bloody Mary at April 27, 2011 03:02 PM (dDbkT)

60 MMMM MMMM MMMM Sarah Louise Palin the door is open for the lass The rinos can just kiss my ass MMMM MMMM MMMM Sarah Louise Palin Here the green, sharia compliant Pawlenty took a swipe at the donald today. He is so done.

Posted by: 4 Dead Cops at April 27, 2011 03:04 PM (cDRYC)

61

OMG....This is awesome news!

Huckelberry Hound had no chance. The polls lie. It's just like 2008, the Democrats pick our candidates for us, and of course they wanted Huckleberry Hound!

"So your saying we still have a chance?"

Posted by: Jimi at April 27, 2011 03:04 PM (JMsOK)

62 Shit, he just decided last week to finally suspend his primary campaign against McCain. Give the guy some time.

Posted by: Damiano at April 27, 2011 03:04 PM (3nrx7)

63

I know you hate palin but i call bullshit. She appeals very in the south (ie evangelicals)

Google it.  Her poll numbers in states like SC, GA and MS suggest that her appeal lies somewhere between Abraham Lincoln and the ebola virus.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 27, 2011 03:05 PM (WRW1S)

64 60 That sould have been Hear, not here and I forgot to remove my sock.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at April 27, 2011 03:05 PM (cDRYC)

65 Polls are like dicks, People lie about numbers but few know the truth.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at April 27, 2011 03:07 PM (cDRYC)

66 The first time he ran he annoyed the ever lovin' shit outta me with all his jokey banter.  He took that down home shit way too far to be considered a serious national candidate.

Posted by: Dang at April 27, 2011 03:08 PM (TXKVh)

67 @42 So, you know, just shut up already.  You purity testers have done enough damage.

So, you're happy with the pragmatic GOP leadership in the House, are you?

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at April 27, 2011 03:10 PM (fjoLg)

68 Google it.  Her poll numbers in states like SC, GA and MS suggest that her appeal lies somewhere between Abraham Lincoln and the ebola virus. ----------- Last year when she was in the news, she was tieing schmuck in SC. I say bullshit. She has dropped off the radar for now which suggest current polls. You are obsessed with. 2 year out polls, a campaign has not started yet.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 27, 2011 03:10 PM (V+VTK)

69 67 Get em Otis, another RINO spreading Manure.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at April 27, 2011 03:11 PM (cDRYC)

70

Last year when she was in the news, she was tieing schmuck in SC.I say bullshit. She has dropped off the radar for now which suggest current polls. You are obsessed with. 2 year out polls, a campaign has not started yet.

 

You got into a college?

Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2011 03:13 PM (Kq/LG)

71 So, you're happy with the pragmatic GOP leadership in the House, are you?

I'm happy with a candidate that won't make swing voters run screaming from the GOP.  I want to win this fucking thing.  We cannot survive as a country with 4 more years of Obama.

That's my priority.  What's yours?

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at April 27, 2011 03:13 PM (HwE/1)

72 Geez fox can at least give him until May 16th when we find out if the donald is "in or out" (say in heidi klune)

Posted by: curious at April 27, 2011 03:14 PM (k1rwm)

73 That's my priority.  What's yours?

Anal with Anne Hathaway.

Posted by: nickless at April 27, 2011 03:15 PM (MMC8r)

74 Posted by: nickless at April 27, 2011 07:15 PM (MMC8r)

really?  really?

Posted by: anne hathaway's hemmoroid at April 27, 2011 03:16 PM (k1rwm)

75

Anal with Anne Hathaway.

We Got Next!

Posted by: WNBA All-Stars - Strapped-On and ready at April 27, 2011 03:17 PM (Kq/LG)

76 But... Palin is unelectable!!!

Posted by: that guy who likes to start thread wars at April 27, 2011 03:17 PM (ZkHkm)

77 Yeah, I could get behind that, too, IYKWIMAITTYD.

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at April 27, 2011 03:17 PM (HwE/1)

78 Anal with Anne Hathaway. Okay, I'll share, as long as I get her front side.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 27, 2011 03:18 PM (ZkHkm)

79 12: Heh, I think MY dream pair is Daniels/West. West brings some energy and spark to Daniels who has actually cut spending and didn't rubber stamp a marginally tweaked healthcare bill. But West and any of the boring white guys (not Huckster or crazy RP) works for me. Lets get to know West better for 4-8 years as VP and then make him president.

Posted by: Palerider at April 27, 2011 03:18 PM (dkExz)

80 Yes, because we need another pasty, go-along-get-along, lying, moralistic, pansy who attacks his own team with more gusto than he ever attacked the left.

Anyone who would think of voting for that worthless turd in the primary deserves to be kicked in the crotch.

Posted by: jimmuy at April 27, 2011 03:19 PM (GDCB+)

81 We dont need another populist from Arkansas.

Posted by: MAJHAM at April 27, 2011 03:19 PM (AfjsS)

82 Posted by: nickless at April 27, 2011 07:15 PM (MMC8r)

I can't picture her with a strap-on.  Oh,  wait a minute... never mind.

Posted by: Dang at April 27, 2011 03:20 PM (TXKVh)

83

Last year when she was in the news, she was tieing schmuck in SC. I say bullshit. She has dropped off the radar for now which suggest current polls. You are obsessed with. 2 year out polls, a campaign has not started yet.

Make up your mind- are the polls meaningless or not? Or are they only relevant if they show her doing well?

Two SC polls released just yesterday:

Huckster 19.1%, 20%

Romney 16.6%, 18%

Palin 10%, 10%

While one should rely too heavily on early polls, especially with regards to lesser-known candidates, she's not nearly as strong in the South as you seem to believe.

 

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 27, 2011 03:20 PM (WRW1S)

84 41 Jesus told Huckabee that he is, in fact, crazy.

Go Jesus.

Posted by: railwriter at April 27, 2011 06:54 PM (daRzV)

You know it!! Hey--everyone have a chance to see my wang?!

Posted by: Hunky Jesus (endorsed by Zombie of PJM) at April 27, 2011 03:20 PM (GAQ6o)

85 I know you hate palin but i call bullshit. She appeals very in the south (ie evangelicals)

Nope. Palin's numerical base is men west of the Appalachians. Huck's is TV-addicted church-lady busybodies who think Palin's a lipstick-wearing whore. The South is full of those.

In what-if? polls where Palin's in and Huck's out, the homeless Huckabites split evenly among anyone-but-Palin. His presence in the race corrals the anti-Palin vote, making him a sort of kingmaker—if she doesn't run. So he's waiting for her not to.

"You know who this benefits?"

Posted by: oblig. at April 27, 2011 03:22 PM (xvZW9)

86 Heres my priorities Rod, 1) Our liberty is from God not the government 2) Our sovereignty is in our soul not the soil 3) Our security is through strength not surrender 4) Our prosperity is from the private sector not the public sector 5) Our truths are self-evident not relative These are Palin's Values. These are my values. Maybe she won't run, but for now, I wait. I watch the RINO's like Pawlenty and Romney being crushed to death by their own bullshit. Thank God we have a crazy ass businessman out there creating chaos for the other side. That's far more than any of the vagina's you listed would ever do.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at April 27, 2011 03:22 PM (cDRYC)

87 I'm happy with a candidate that won't make swing voters run screaming from the GOP.  I want to win this fucking thing.  We cannot survive as a country with 4 more years of Obama.

That's my priority.  What's yours?

Well, first of all I should make it clear that both Huckabee and Paul are in my view terrible choices, for reasons unrelated to the pragmatist-purist axis.

My priority at this point is getting the most conservative candidate possible nominated. When the party (and Democrat voters in open primary states) has made it's choice, I will vote for him/her/it. 

But my point was that events since the recent election have pretty much killed the whole corrosive purity-pragmatism argument around here, and I was wondering why you would bring it up again.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at April 27, 2011 03:22 PM (fjoLg)

88 well, if the huckster drops out then it almost looks like no one is up for the challenge, almost seems as though they don't want to waste their capital in a race they know they will most definitely lose which sort of doesn't bode well for the republican party.  I mean heck, he can run unopposed and then argue for a third term cause no one challenged him.

Posted by: curious at April 27, 2011 03:22 PM (k1rwm)

89 Huckabee is our only hope with the crucial cornpone vote.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 27, 2011 03:22 PM (ZkHkm)

90 Sorry, the guy always rubbed me the wrong way. Always got that sleezy politician / used car salesman / Jesse Jackson vibe from him.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at April 27, 2011 03:23 PM (Rk+mU)

91

"You know who this benefits?"

 

Please let it be me.

Posted by: Skylined Caribou at April 27, 2011 03:23 PM (Kq/LG)

92 @87 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrgh I mean of course "its choice", not "it's".

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at April 27, 2011 03:25 PM (fjoLg)

93
another Angry AoS Fantasy Candidate Circle Jerktm?


Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 27, 2011 03:25 PM (TeF6E)

94 Anybody watch Glee last night? I usually just skim watch it looking for songs I might like. Last night - none. And again, it was all gay all the time.

Posted by: Any Topic But the Huckster, Please! at April 27, 2011 03:25 PM (dDbkT)

95 That's too bad. I can't stand Huckleberry's politics, but I do like a candidate with big ol' titties.

Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at April 27, 2011 03:26 PM (+lsX1)

96 By the way, anyone still think Cankles is actually going to oppose His Menthol Koolness? Not likely.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 27, 2011 03:26 PM (ZkHkm)

97 If Obama wins a second term, I'm leaving the country. Seriously. I'll find a job teaching English in another country.

Posted by: Any Topic But the Huckster, Please! at April 27, 2011 03:27 PM (dDbkT)

98 I've stopped watching it and I know a lot of other people who just stopped watching it and now parents are screening what their kids should see since they were totally caught off guard when the writer's chose to go down this road.  Have heard a lot of parents are angry with Glee now.

Posted by: curious at April 27, 2011 03:27 PM (k1rwm)

99 His Menthol Koolness? Priceless, I will steal that.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at April 27, 2011 03:27 PM (cDRYC)

100  That's too bad. I can't stand Huckleberry's politics, but I do like a candidate with big ol' titties.

Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at April 27, 2011 07:26 PM (+lsX1)

Even if said titties have hair on them?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 27, 2011 03:28 PM (yQWNf)

101 100, and smell like sweat and funyuns? h/t EoJ

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at April 27, 2011 03:29 PM (cDRYC)

102

If Obama wins a second term, I'm leaving the country. Seriously. I'll find a job teaching English in another country.

 

You'd do better to learn Mandarin.

Posted by: Donald Trump's Forehead Merkin at April 27, 2011 03:29 PM (Kq/LG)

103
Trump doesn't wear a wig.

Vince McMahon pulled on Trump's hair on WWF and it is very real.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 27, 2011 03:31 PM (En7xg)

104
And...

Trump's hair can do the wave.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 27, 2011 03:32 PM (TeF6E)

105 Huckabee showed incredibly poor judgment dusting it up with Beck. Huckabee was out of his league.

Posted by: mare at April 27, 2011 03:32 PM (A98Xu)

106 Had to look this shit up dammit.

"  Integrative Complexity is an accurate indicator of an imminent conflict.
Changes in the integrative complexity of other players indicates an imminent escalation in hostilities
In a related study, "the integrative complexity of the communications of major decision-makers [was found to be] significantly lower during crises that eventually culminate in war than during crises that are resolved peacefully." (pg. 431) Therefore, if you seek peace, try to increase the level of complexity of discussion. Ultimatum type yes/no, black/white discussions are less complex, and are therefore more likely to culminate in war. "

Source - Seudfeld, TetLock & Ramirez; "War, Peace, and Integrative Complexity"

Posted by: Odin at April 27, 2011 03:32 PM (3OCZw)

107 But my point was that events since the recent election have pretty much killed the whole corrosive purity-pragmatism argument around here, and I was wondering why you would bring it up again.

Because national elections work differently.  If you don't seize the squishy middle, you don't win.  Period.  And with them, it's not so much wooing them (since they're already dis-satisfied with Obama) as it is not scaring them off.

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at April 27, 2011 03:32 PM (HwE/1)

109 n a related study, "the integrative complexity of the communications of major decision-makers [was found to be] significantly lower during crises that eventually culminate in war than during crises that are resolved peacefully." In other words people that talk shit don't do shit.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at April 27, 2011 03:34 PM (cDRYC)

110 Trump's hair is unbeweavable.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at April 27, 2011 03:34 PM (UciSl)

111

Vince McMahon pulled on Trump's hair on WWF and it is very real.

 

That's not Wrasslin'!

Posted by: Junior High Wrestling Coach at April 27, 2011 03:35 PM (Kq/LG)

112 @106 Integrative Complexity

Did I miss the definition of this here in the thread? because its meaning is not self-evident.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at April 27, 2011 03:35 PM (fjoLg)

113
In other words, obfuscation is the best path to negotiating peace.

That's interesting. Because I know when people talk in circles and try to confuse me, it makes me desire peace with that person.

Integrative Complexity, is there anything it can't do?

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 27, 2011 03:36 PM (En7xg)

114

"I'm leaving the country"

Why bother? Just quit your job, and go on welfare. It seems to wrok well for everybody else. Besides, you know if Obama wins a second term.....the Nanny State is coming back bigger than ever!

Posted by: Jimi at April 27, 2011 03:37 PM (JMsOK)

115 Is it all about me yet?

Posted by: Sarah Louise Palin at April 27, 2011 03:38 PM (FYCiJ)

116
Integrative is one of those college-campus words.

Like normative. And hetero-normative. And reductionism.

Nobody uses these words in real life; only on campus.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 27, 2011 03:39 PM (En7xg)

117 Even if said titties have hair on them?

It never bothered me with Kirstie Alley.

Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at April 27, 2011 03:39 PM (+lsX1)

118
the perfect Vulcan

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 27, 2011 03:40 PM (TeF6E)

119 I know some people don't want him but we better start getting used to Romney being the nominee.

Posted by: Ken Royall at April 27, 2011 03:41 PM (9zzk+)

120 Because national elections work differently.  If you don't seize the squishy middle, you don't win.  Period.  And with them, it's not so much wooing them (since they're already dis-satisfied with Obama) as it is not scaring them off.

Now, see how easy it is to express yourself cogently without using divisive terms of abuse?

There's demonstrable truth in what you say, but you are doing the usual Republican thing of underestimating the popularity of conservatism, properly put forth. This kind of thinking gave us McCain last election.


Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at April 27, 2011 03:41 PM (fjoLg)

121
Mitt's in the race, so Huckster is in the race. I've been pimping the idea for awhile, but I really think that he hates Romney enough that he'll run just to piss all over Mitt's campaign. I'll be massively surprised if Huck opts out.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 27, 2011 03:42 PM (7YzRS)

122 Nader announced he is forming some sort of committee to find democrats to challenge Obama.

And like some others, i would vote for roadkill before the Huckster. The man is a frickin' menace.

Posted by: Penfold at April 27, 2011 03:42 PM (WdtC6)

123 You know it!! Hey--everyone have a chance to see my wang?! Posted by: Hunky Jesus (endorsed by Zombie of PJM) at April 27, 2011 07:20 PM (GAQ6o) Yeah. Wasn't impressed.

Posted by: John Holmes at April 27, 2011 03:42 PM (GS9dw)

124 121 I agree.He showed real,personal animosity.Is it because Romney is mormon?

Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2011 03:43 PM (HLVoN)

125 They have been shoving integrative education up our asses in the middle school. Basically it is using math to teach science, Science to teach English, English to teach math. In the end we are so busy trying to meet the needs of the collectivist bureaucracy that the kids get lost in the shuffle.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at April 27, 2011 03:43 PM (cDRYC)

126
Nader is coming to MA in a few days.

He'll be speaking at Andover High School, talking about activism and how to be a general nuisance.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 27, 2011 03:44 PM (En7xg)

127
Because I know when people talk in circles and try to confuse me, it makes me desire peace with that person.



The first step to peace is to walk up to Mr. Scrabble-Champion and kick him in the 'nads.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 27, 2011 03:46 PM (7YzRS)

128 @125

No shit, my older one is in the second grade, and apparently there is more than one way to do subtraction. It's bad when even his union-loving teacher was bitching about it  (and I know she is a union-loving teacher because she sends home flyers from her union to us - asking us to rally for the teachers).

Posted by: Penfold at April 27, 2011 03:46 PM (WdtC6)

129 106 Had to look this shit up dammit. Integrative Complexity is an accurate indicator of an imminent conflict. Posted by: Odin at April 27, 2011 07:32 PM (3OCZw) So Mr. Gettin' Too Big For His Britches Ace is assigning us homework now? During cocktail hour? Not gonna help the hit count, sonny!

Posted by: ya2daup, an iPhone iMpeded iPosting at April 27, 2011 03:46 PM (85+IL)

130 Dammit, someone shoot a fucking dart filled with anabolic steroids and Viagra into Teh Fred's ass. We're dying here!

Posted by: ErikW at April 27, 2011 03:48 PM (NgJve)

131

@119

Yep.......it's either we run with Romney or the fat lady is gonna sing.

The people that keep talking about Pawlenty, Huckleberry Hound, Paul, and Palin don't quite seem to understand how to win. Out of those people just listed....Palin probably has the best shot at the nomination but, I doubt she can beat Obama. The only hope is, if we are gonna get stuck with Obama hopefully the Republicans get a supermajority in the House and Senate. I'm not sure what kind of numbers it is gonna take to make that happend, but that would be the least painful situation.

 

Posted by: Jimi at April 27, 2011 03:48 PM (JMsOK)

132

"Even if said titties have hair on them?"

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 27, 2011 07:28 PM (yQWNf)


You got a problem with that, Punk?

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnel at April 27, 2011 03:49 PM (kUaEF)

133
124 121 I agree.He showed real,personal animosity.Is it because Romney is mormon?

Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2011 07:43 PM (HLVoN)




I suspect it's the religion thing, but you'll never get Huck to admit it in public. Hell, I'm not a Mitt fan either, but it's nothing to do with how he worships.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 27, 2011 03:50 PM (7YzRS)

134 133, No kidding, I'd have a rastafarian if he actually supported the Constitution.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at April 27, 2011 03:51 PM (cDRYC)

135 119 I know some people don't want him but we better start getting used to Romney being the nominee.

Posted by: Ken Royall at April 27, 2011 07:41 PM (9zzk+)


Sure looks like it, don't it?


Unless Pawlenty surprises us, or Mitch Daniels jumps in and suddenly catches fire.  Beyond that... Donald Trump?  Jeesh.

I just hope his Mormon Magic Underwear don't show at his nomination acceptance speech.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2011 03:51 PM (kUaEF)

136 Garret, I'm typing oN my iPhone. I don't have the time to troll over my grammar and spelling. @oblig. The hucks out, Palin in polls show she gets huck votes nicely. I don't see where you are getting your info. But hey, you and hollow can keep sucking the polls this far out

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 27, 2011 03:54 PM (u8JAM)

137 Hell, I'm not a Mitt fan either, but it's nothing to do with how he worships.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 27, 2011 07:50 PM (7YzRS)


How you worship is one thing, but Jebus, the Book of Mormon?  The American Indians are really ancient Hebrews in disguise?  Really??  Our continent is covered with (invisible) ruins of ancient cities built by the Lost Tribes of Israel?  Jesus, after ascending to the Father, decided a Comeback Tour of America was a good idea?  Who knew??

I can't help thinking of all that as the Scientology of the 19th century - and wonder about the judgment of a convert like Romney.


Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2011 03:54 PM (kUaEF)

138

Yep.......it's either we run with Romney or the fat lady is gonna sing.

Too soon to say.  Romney has to overcome the Romneycare albatross around his neck, probably won't win IA, and may have a tough fight in SC.  If he loses those two, I'm not sure that wins in the Mormon states will be enough momentum to drag him over the line.  Sort of depends on which version of Mitt we see this time around.

If Pawlenty can close the charisma and name-recognition gap, he could be a contender depending on who actually runs.  I wouldn't count Daniels out yet, either.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 27, 2011 03:55 PM (WRW1S)

139

I can't help thinking of all that as the Scientology of the 19th century - and wonder about the judgment of a convert like Romney.


Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2011 07:54 PM (kUaEF)

This. Mormons are a wierd cult.

Posted by: ErikW at April 27, 2011 03:57 PM (NgJve)

140 Does anyone think Romney would make a full court press to repeal Obamacare, if he did win the Presidency?

If I thought that, I'd vote for him even if he was an amateur voodoo witchdoctor.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2011 03:58 PM (kUaEF)

141

@137

"I can't help thinking of all that as the Scientology of the 19th century - and wonder about the judgment of a convert like Romney."

But it's not about all that! It's about ensureing Obama doesn't get another term. We all know Romney isn't no Obama, so if we don't like him, we cn kick him out in 4 years.

Hell....I'd vote for Roseanne Barr right now, just to get this Commie out of there. They got big plans for us in the second term, we must boot him. But, I can't bullshit you......what I really believe is....there is no way Obama is gonna lose this next term....it's just that Romney is the best chance at that possiblity

Posted by: Jimi at April 27, 2011 03:58 PM (JMsOK)

142 137 139 Yeah it is weird stuff.South Park went over it.They(mormons)are mostly good,conservative people though.

Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2011 04:00 PM (HLVoN)

143 If Mitt is the nominee,I will put aside all doubts and grievances.I will vote wearing mormon underwear if necessary.

Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2011 04:04 PM (HLVoN)

144 Now, see how easy it is to express yourself cogently without using divisive terms of abuse?

My so-called "divisive terms of abuse" was to preemptively head off screaming nonsense posts full of "he's going to take our guns!!!1111!!eleventy!!" because I had the temerity to mention Christie as my dream choice.

I'll take a brilliant communicator who can actually sell the masses on conservatism over, well, just about anything else I'm seeing out there right now.  We need another Reagan.  This guy's got it.

A shame he isn't running.

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at April 27, 2011 04:05 PM (HwE/1)

145 But it's not about all that! It's about ensureing Obama doesn't get another term. We all know Romney isn't no Obama, so if we don't like him, we cn kick him out in 4 years.

No, we can't.  Only the Dems can.  Has an incumbent President ever been successfully primaried?

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at April 27, 2011 04:07 PM (HwE/1)

146

@145

Rod,

I would take my chances of 8 years of Romney, over 4 more of Obama......It just couldn't be anymore Black and White than that for me! 

Posted by: Jimi at April 27, 2011 04:09 PM (JMsOK)

147

The problem is.......or the reason why I keep saying that Obama is gonna win....is that there is alot of people out there that if they get the sense that the Republican can't win.......they won't even vote.......and the media are experts at this.

By late next summer they will have Conservatives and Independents so demoralized I think everybody is gonna be amazed how big Obama is gonna win!

Posted by: Jimi at April 27, 2011 04:11 PM (JMsOK)

148 Pretty sure Huckabee won't play in Iowa this time around. In Southwest Iowa, we were originally tempted to caucus for him and several of us in our county dug into understanding his qualifications better. He seemed like a promising candidate at the time, but we didn't know the depth of RINOisms on fiscal matters, combined with his evangelical "I want to micro-manage your body and lifestyle" imperial tendencies.

Iowa's a strange state given the predominance of independent voters. Given we have to register with a party in order to participate in the caucus, it tends to confuse the national forecasts. Not speaking to the blue collar and U of Iowa radical left on the eastern part of the state, much of the state consists of small towns and educated rural folk (where Norwegian Ollie and Lena jokes are common). That's what perplexes me when the news media "elites" write off our rural folk as uneducated; most of my farmer friends in southwest Iowa all have college degrees. The small town attorney I work with a county over graduated in the top of his Princeton law school class. We live here in small Iowa towns because we like the lifestyle, but by no means are we hicks.

So I'd suggest that Huckabee, who tends to require a less thoughtful, more reactive, white socioeconomically challenged lower class voter, will not likely find support in Iowa this time. Our lower class is predominantly Democratic and located on the eastern side of the state, voting how the unions instruct them to.

Posted by: Multitude at April 27, 2011 04:15 PM (7r7wy)

149 This. Mormons are a wierd cult.

I have a few of them in my family.  Some of their beliefs are odd, but they're good people.  Anyone who would not vote for Romney solely on the Mormon issue is the walking definition of intolerant.  There, I said it.  Besides, there are so many better reasons not to vote Mitt (like socialized medicine).

Is what they believe that much stranger than actually believing that the wafer and wine literally turn into the blood and body of Christ during communion, as Catholics do (or at least are supposed to)?  And as far as that goes, how many people really believe in every single tenet laid down by their religion, whether chosen or inherited from birth?  Do we know for a fact that Romney buys the whole Joseph Smith story?

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at April 27, 2011 04:16 PM (HwE/1)

150

The problem is.......or the reason why I keep saying that Obama is gonna win....is that there is alot of people out there that if they get the sense that the Republican can't win.......they won't even vote.......and the media are experts at this.

By late next summer they will have Conservatives and Independents so demoralized I think everybody is gonna be amazed how big Obama is gonna win!

Posted by: Jimi at April 27, 2011 08:11 PM (JMsOK)

Say, we like you kid.  And, we like the way you accept the inevitable, like John McCain in '08.  You just keep away from that twisted Rush Limbaugh and you'll be fine.  Everything's gonna be A-okay. You'll see.

Posted by: The MBM at April 27, 2011 04:18 PM (Ew27I)

151 I would take my chances of 8 years of Romney, over 4 more of Obama......It just couldn't be anymore Black and White than that for me!

Jimi,

I agree with you.  I was just questioning the statement that we could replace Mitt with another one of our own if he turns out lousy.  I would pull the lever for Mitt in a heartbeat if it came down to him or Obumbles.

Ron Paul or Huckabee topping the ticket might just make me stay home, however.  We have to have some standards, after all.

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at April 27, 2011 04:19 PM (HwE/1)

152

The problem is.......or the reason why I keep saying that Obama is gonna win....is that there is alot of people out there that if they get the sense that the Republican can't win.......they won't even vote.......and the media are experts at this.

By late next summer they will have Conservatives and Independents so demoralized I think everybody is gonna be amazed how big Obama is gonna win!

Posted by: Jimi at April 27, 2011 08:11 PM (JMsOK)

Shut up. We wont be demoralized.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 27, 2011 04:26 PM (u8JAM)

153 Beck's a Mormon too, and I think it's more about lifestyle than doctrine. Being an alcoholic I think the Mormon lifestyle works for Beck...... Huckabee may have animosity toward Beck and Romney because of the Mormon issue. Didn't Mitch Daniels say something epically stupid about the budget recently?

Posted by: mare at April 27, 2011 04:28 PM (A98Xu)

154 Please God give Huck a mission to make fat people thin and stay in Arkansas the rest of his hillbilly life.

He's a fucking idiot.

Did I mention he doesn't drink?

Posted by: Kemp at April 27, 2011 04:57 PM (JpFM9)

155 Huckabee's waiting for a sign from God at the bottom of his hot fudge sundaes.

Posted by: swamp_yankee at April 27, 2011 05:01 PM (ZIpcL)

156 Huckabee is a RINO turd that has no chance whatsoever.  I don't know about y'all, but I already have one preacher and don't need another.  This is truly the best news of the week for me that Huckaphony doesn't want to give up his plush FOX salary... yay!  Stick with FOX televangelism Huck!

Posted by: Andrew at April 27, 2011 07:14 PM (Yvrvz)

157 I hope someone takes the poles and shoves them up the Hucksters ass!  I can't stand that moron even for a second.  He is a big government progressive who will bend over for the Dems so he can seem moderate.  The big problem is he will not be the one getting screwed in the end.  Sorry, no thanks!

Posted by: Obama's People at April 27, 2011 08:56 PM (hsk48)

158 Gottdammit.  I scrolled all of the way down to see how many comments are on this thread so far, because my contempt for Fuckabee is a force unto itself.  I want to get an idea of co-moe-ron sentiment, but now I'll have to read 160 brain turds.  This labor intensive endeavor is my sacrifice to our future.  Gottdammit.

Posted by: skh.pcola at April 28, 2011 12:34 AM (vsFI8)

159 Getting on the County Central Committee gets you the most bang for your buck Here in Linn County Iowa the Tea Party is an effective voting block in the County Committee. That did not happen by accident or overnight

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