January 29, 2011
— rdbrewer Egypt updates:
--Mubarak named his intelligence chief and close confidant Omar Suleiman vice president.
Mubarak was widely seen as grooming his son Gamal to succeed him, possibly even as soon as in presidential elections planned for later this year. However, there was significant public opposition to the hereditary succession.Suleiman has been in charge of some of Egypt's most sensitive foreign policy issues, including the Palestinian-Israeli peace process and inter-Palestinian divisions.
His appointment as vice president answers one of the most intriguing and most enduring political questions in Egypt: who would succeed the 82-year-old Mubarak?
--Mubarak's sons just landed in London, according to Allahpundit: "Hosni Mubarak's two sons Alaa and Gamal have arrived in London." Also, Mubarak's wife has left for london.
--Kirsten Powers tweets that Suleiman is a good choice: "Our egyptian uncle in Cairo says Omar Suleiman is well respected and would be a good president. Says his appt to VP is good for Egypt."
Update:
--Looters broke into the Egytian Museum, destroying mummies.
The museum in central Cairo, which has the world's biggest collection of Pharaonic antiquities, is adjacent to the headquarters of the ruling National Democratic Party that protesters had earlier set ablaze. Flames were seen still pouring out of the party headquarters early Saturday."I felt deeply sorry today when I came this morning to the Egyptian Museum and found that some had tried to raid the museum by force last night," Zahi Hawass, chairman of the Supreme Council of Antiquities, said Saturday.
"Egyptian citizens tried to prevent them and were joined by the tourism police, but some (looters) managed to enter from above and they destroyed two of the mummies," he said.
--Yahoo reports that the Egyptian army stormed the museum:
The Egyptian army secured Cairo's famed antiquities museum early Saturday, protecting thousands of priceless artifacts, including the gold mask of King Tutankhamun, from looters.The greatest threat to the Egyptian Museum, which draws millions of tourists a year, first appeared to come from the fire engulfing the ruling party headquarters next door on Friday night, set ablaze by anti-government protesters.
Then dozens of would-be thieves started entering the grounds surrounding the museum, climbing over the metal fence or jumping inside from trees lining the sidewalk outside.
Well, Mubarak did something right.
Update:
--Protestors helped protect the museum:
One man pleaded with people outside the museum's gates on Tahrir Square not to loot the building, shouting at the crowd: "We are not like Baghdad." After the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, thieves carted off thousands of artifacts from the National Museum in Baghdad — only a fraction of which have been recovered.Suddenly other young men — some armed with truncheons taken from the police — formed a human chain outside the main entrance in an attempt to protect the collection inside.
"I'm standing here to defend and to protect our national treasure," said one of the men, Farid Saad, a 40-year-old engineer.
Another man, 26-year-old Ahmed Ibrahim, said it was important to guard the museum because it "has 5,000 years of our history. If they steal it, we'll never find it again."
Damn right. Next to lives, it's the most valuable thing in Egypt. It's an incredible place. What a nice story. Thanks to some troll in comments.
Update:
--Live streaming video from Al Jazeera in English. They showed some of the damage to the museum. The rioters got some of the priceless stuff, looks like. Thanks to Liberty Chick.
Update:
--Pictures of some of the damage to the museum. Here is one of them:
There are many more at the link, most better than this. You can see that the cases aren't really designed to keep people out. Thanks again to Liberty Chick.
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Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 07:20 AM (n0WLs)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 29, 2011 07:24 AM (eOXTH)
Posted by: Stu-22 at January 29, 2011 07:24 AM (k4bdL)
Posted by: Egyptian Automated Message at January 29, 2011 07:27 AM (n0WLs)
Posted by: Sean at January 29, 2011 07:28 AM (RTMRC)
Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 07:29 AM (Ez4Ql)
Kirsten Powers is the liberal version of S E Cupp, but lacking the hotness, tight sweaters, magnificent ass, and librarian glasses.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 07:29 AM (ZHsNw)
Posted by: Geraldo A Bonafide Republican at January 29, 2011 07:34 AM (EL+OC)
Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 07:34 AM (qdtoY)
Posted by: Sean
And what does this guy think of the Muslim Brotherhood? And the Muslim Brotherhood of him? There has been a low level civil war going on between the government (since the time of Nasser) and the Muslim Brotherhood, and I'll wager that the MB does not think highly of Suleiman, as he has probably be ordering the struggle against the MB.
Clearly, Mubarak knows that they are the most dangerous element in the storm. The MB has tried to assasinate Mubarak on several occasions.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at January 29, 2011 07:37 AM (sJTmU)
Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 07:38 AM (1cC24)
Kirsten is cute, but she sure has gotten bitchy smug since she got married. SE Cupp is flat out smoking hot.
Posted by: Fox Girlz Rule at January 29, 2011 07:38 AM (yARWD)
Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 11:34 AM (qdtoY)
Yeah. It's sort of funny. The whole world's favorite Egyptian, Sadat, was exactly the same as Mubarak.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 07:38 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: ac at January 29, 2011 07:38 AM (Brajx)
Posted by: Egyptian Automated Message at January 29, 2011 07:41 AM (n0WLs)
Powers is right now a primary source because she has telephone communication with people in Cairo.
Also, Reuters reports Israel has evacuated most of their embassy and families and tourists. We have two ships heading in that direction "in case" evacuation becomes necessary.
Meanwhile, PJ Crowley of State made a comment about how this change in government isn't good enough. I swear to God, I think that Obama has organized this revolt and is backing the Muslim Brotherhood, at the instigation of Soros.
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 07:41 AM (Fo83G)
http://tinyurl.com/64h8qor
Posted by: JEA at January 29, 2011 07:41 AM (4kpbt)
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 07:43 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Ayman al-Zawahiri at January 29, 2011 07:43 AM (y5tGs)
Yeah. It's sort of funny. The whole world's favorite Egyptian, Sadat, was exactly the same as Mubarak.
Posted by: iknowtheleft
Sadat is safely dead, not just stunned. Mubarak is alive, for the moment. for whatever the reason, Mubarak has been luckier/smarter/whatever in evading assisination by the MB.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at January 29, 2011 07:46 AM (sJTmU)
Posted by: bigred at January 29, 2011 07:46 AM (cX9pO)
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 07:46 AM (p302b)
I'm just ridin' your ass, rd. And thinking that AP gets his worldview from the Interwebz and occasionally opening the blinds in his apartment, and even if KP does have contacts (hey, I have a friend whose son was in Egypt a couple years ago, so I'm an expert, too), she has to filter the info through her vapidity. But mainly I'm ridin' your ass.
Posted by: MrScribbler© at January 29, 2011 07:46 AM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 29, 2011 07:47 AM (eOXTH)
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 07:47 AM (p302b)
I wouldn't care if Powers was married to Mubarak. She's a left wing moron who would have been spouting in the 70's about how that nice Mr. Khomeini will undoubtedly lead Iran into a new golden age after that mean old Shah is out of town.
Posted by: ed at January 29, 2011 07:47 AM (CUyJl)
Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 07:49 AM (Ez4Ql)
Kudlow? I heard that particular brand of idiot telling me a couple of weeks back on the radio that inflation was non-existent. Why, oh why, does anyone cite to him as an authority?
Posted by: ed at January 29, 2011 07:49 AM (CUyJl)
Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 07:49 AM (qdtoY)
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 07:50 AM (p302b)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 07:50 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 29, 2011 07:50 AM (eOXTH)
http://tinyurl.com/64h8qor
Posted by: JEA at January 29, 2011 11:41 AM (4kpbt)
Meh. Arabs and muslims have an absolutely abominable history with artifacts of any sort. They have no respect, at all, for historical artifacts of their own and have always been exceedingly hostile to artifacts left from anyone else. If it hadn't been for the Westerners, or the lack of greater looting skill on the part of the arabs, there wouldn't be any Egyptian artifacts or any Cairo museum.
Muslims have distinguished themselves in the protection of large rocks, though.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 07:50 AM (N49h9)
That is not the administration line. So I am fairly sure she is reporting what her in-laws are saying.
All taken with a grain of salt, of course. I have had exchanges with her before on twitter, and she is polite and hasn't blocked me yet, unlike some of the lefties.
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 07:51 AM (Fo83G)
I wasn't "citing him as an authority"...I was putting out his opinion as something else to throw in the mix. the reason to listen to Kudlow is his callers, he has the ear of Wall Street and they all call him and that's where you learn little nuances.
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 07:52 AM (p302b)
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 07:56 AM (pqsMB)
Posted by: Egyptian Automated Message at January 29, 2011 07:57 AM (n0WLs)
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at January 29, 2011 07:57 AM (gQF+b)
Posted by: What the MSM wont tell you at January 29, 2011 07:58 AM (FQn+U)
Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 07:58 AM (Ez4Ql)
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 07:58 AM (N49h9)
"...tight sweaters, magnificent ass, and librarian glasses."
These beautiful words will forever be seared into my soul. Thank you.
Posted by: sherlock at January 29, 2011 07:59 AM (thr9V)
Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 08:00 AM (Ez4Ql)
Coming up is an interview with Chris Christie. link
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 08:00 AM (p302b)
Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 08:03 AM (n0WLs)
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at January 29, 2011 08:04 AM (5YgO+)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 08:04 AM (alr7n)
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 08:04 AM (p302b)
Meh.
Here's the thing. There is so much abject poverty in Egypt, that I really can't get all outraged about looters. Yeah, maybe they were like our post-Lakers-victory/loss looters and just a bunch of thugs... or maybe they were dirt-poor folks who've been kept that way be a corrupt government. If the latter, then good for them.
Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 08:04 AM (pW2o8)
So I get to witness the assassination of JFK, the Vietnam War, Watergate, The Iranian Revolution, the collapse of the USSR, Gulf War I, 9/11, Gulf War II, the Afghan War and what looks like the Egyptian Revolution.
Seems like there's always something going on.
Posted by: Ed Anger at January 29, 2011 08:04 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 08:04 AM (pqsMB)
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 08:06 AM (pqsMB)
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 08:06 AM (p302b)
Egyptiain Protestor : We Protest because we do not like the way the Govenrment runs things...
Mubbyariak: Then I will fire my Government, and appoints instead my Head of SECURITY to run it! Yea, my Right Hand Man will change the Government, which I ran, into a better Government!
OK... do any of you NOT see the problem here...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 08:07 AM (AdK6a)
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 12:06 PM (p302b)
It's only been that way for some 5,000 years.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 08:08 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 08:09 AM (alr7n)
I nominate Tariq Aziz to be released from the Baghdad prison and be placed in a position of power in Egypt. He did such as wonderful job advising Saddam, he can heal Egypt too!
Exit question: Is it possible to hang twice?
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 08:10 AM (ZHsNw)
Posted by: Mummy Dearest at January 29, 2011 08:10 AM (pqsMB)
Posted by: Ed Anger
Ya know, that's what I says. It's always somethin'!
Posted by: Rosanne Rosanadanna at January 29, 2011 08:10 AM (sJTmU)
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 12:07 PM (AdK6a)
If there was no likelihood of the Muslim Brotherhood winding up filling any void of power in Egypt and turning it into a new Iran, I would be on the side of these protesters.
As it is, any democratic movement that might be operating here, should they depose the current secular government, would be overwhelmed by the Islamists in short order, and that would have very bad repercussions for the entire region and the rest of the world.
Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 08:11 AM (qdtoY)
Posted by: wildwood at January 29, 2011 08:11 AM (VSWPU)
Egypt's 1979 re-enactment
Polyester knits resurfacing as a fashion fabric
The rise in home decor of avocado green, chocolate brown and orange colors
They are re-making Charlie's Angels
Inflation is rearing it's ugly head
Wide-legged pants and wide collars are starting to appear
Soon we will have gas lines and disco.
And the Misery Index.
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 08:11 AM (Fo83G)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 08:11 AM (alr7n)
He was looking for his mummy.
Posted by: Yakov Jhurkov at January 29, 2011 12:08 PM (o0D5y)"
haha a three-fer. Joke = funny. Nic = funny. Hash = oO so funny.
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at January 29, 2011 08:12 AM (cQfrc)
Yep.
Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 08:12 AM (pW2o8)
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 08:12 AM (pqsMB)
Posted by: Egyptian Help Desk at January 29, 2011 08:13 AM (AZGON)
Nothing shocking about that. It's what the MSM does, run your mouth first, (maybe) check later. Think back to just the Gabriel Giffords shooting. She's dead (oh wait, no she's not). Shooter was a right wing fanatic (oh wait, no he's not). They do very little fact checking anymore.
Posted by: some wench at January 29, 2011 08:14 AM (bqjJT)
I have to type my html in directly, and links get converted over to the proxy-url. I'll re-send my info to Ace if it doesn't get fixed soon...
Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 08:14 AM (qdtoY)
Posted by: Fish the Impaler
You seem to have made a ghastly mistake in identity!
Posted by: Jane Curtin, Weekend Update! at January 29, 2011 08:15 AM (sJTmU)
Can one of the cob-loggers fix your problem?this would also happen in chicago if there was a riot
SAVE WRIGLEY FROM THE HEATHEN SOUTH SIDERS!!!
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 08:16 AM (uIQK6)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2011 08:16 AM (TMB3S)
Rosanne Rosanadanna, you ignorant slut!
Posted by: Fish the Impaler
You seem to have made a ghastly mistake in identity!
Posted by: Jane Curtin, Weekend Update! at January 29, 2011 12:15 PM (sJTmU)
It was meant for both of you scrunts, and Velvet Jones too!
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 08:17 AM (ZHsNw)
Miss Marple,
gas lines, ok
green refridgerators, ok
inflation, ok
Charlies Angels, if we must.
But please, for the love of God, not DISCO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: bigred has seen too much at January 29, 2011 08:17 AM (cX9pO)
I was not aware of that. Thanks for the info. That will come in handy for many future comments.
--The meaning being the state (crown) owns the estate, but you get to pay tribute for the privilege of being allowed to "squat" on it, until the state (Kelo anyone) needs it.
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 12:11 PM (alr7n)
Yep. I have often tried to make a point of the major difference between the view in the US and that in just about every other nation - even to this day - that for most nations they still look at their country as being property of the government. We were the big outlier in that ... until recently, as you point out (property taxes notwithstanding).
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 08:17 AM (N49h9)
this would also happen in chicago if there was a riot
SAVE WRIGLEY FROM THE HEATHEN SOUTH SIDERS!!!
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 12:16 PM (uIQK6)
Are you kidding? If the rioting South Siders started to torch Wrigley, all the Cubs fans would say "you know? maybe the loser Cubs really aren't worth it"
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 08:18 AM (pqsMB)
Toby928 was banned on that glitched thread the other night, too. Could be others...
Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 08:18 AM (qdtoY)
Sulieman is a gangster, a real thug, who is just the man to kick the asses of communist student agitators without giving a shit about world opinion. and to restore order to that country. Well entrenched socialists, aka, progressives, aka, greenies, aka communists fomented and exaserbated that revolt - not the Muslim Brotherhood.
Does anyone here see the insideous link between those progressives and the progressives in this administration? The ouster of Mubarak would have given this administration precisely the destabilization that they wanted to escalate and to advance their greenie agenda by making oil prices prohibitive.
Other Islamic states and even Israel are suppurting Mubarak for the stability of the region, though, in effect flashing The Obama Administration the bird all in unison. Another reason why Obama should be impeached.
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 08:18 AM (sYrWB)
And it's better than the Muslim Brotherhood having the canal.
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 08:18 AM (Fo83G)
How does it feel to re-live the 70's?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 29, 2011 12:07 PM (9hSKh)
It's a real bummer of a flashback.Posted by: Ed Anger at January 29, 2011 08:19 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 08:19 AM (n0WLs)
Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 08:19 AM (fy8R6)
Posted by: Al Roker at January 29, 2011 08:20 AM (tvs2p)
Both of them think that once they get control, the other side can be neutralized.
Muslim Brotherhood is stronger than you think.
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 08:20 AM (Fo83G)
this would also happen in chicago if there was a riot
---
It's funny you mention Chicago, because I was thinking about it when mulling over the "value" of Egypt's antiquities.
Yes, they are amazing. A triumph of human achievement and a world treasure.
But how are they helping the average Egyptian? Tourism revenue? Well, maybe, but does that trickle down to the poor in Egypt?
Chicago was a great city after the fire than it was before.
Maybe Egypt needs to stop looking at - and protecting - its past (or, rather, the few great things from its deep deep past) and start focusing on the present and the future.
Museums and parks and prisitine wild spaces are things that rich societies can afford. Maybe they hold back poor societies.
Posted by: Y-not is being philosophical at January 29, 2011 08:21 AM (pW2o8)
Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 08:21 AM (fy8R6)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 08:21 AM (alr7n)
Hopefully the boat thing for Americans is true and they can leave that way. At this point, I think they'd take a camel out.
Posted by: specious at January 29, 2011 08:22 AM (KV25a)
Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 08:22 AM (Ez4Ql)
No matter the outcome in Egypt, O'Dingo and Missy Rodham will still remit the billion and half dollars annually to "commence the healing." Bet on it!
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 08:22 AM (ZHsNw)
Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 08:22 AM (n0WLs)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 08:23 AM (alr7n)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 08:23 AM (AZGON)
I spent quite a while yesterday on Twitter trying to convince them that this was a lot more important than the WTF initiative from Obama, and then that this wasn't like some student protest in Berkley.
They are all young and don't have any memory of the Carter years. I had to tell them to look it up and see the similarities between this and 1979 Tehran.
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 08:23 AM (Fo83G)
Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 08:24 AM (qdtoY)
Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 08:24 AM (n0WLs)
99 all the Cubs fans would say "you know? maybe the loser Cubs really aren't worth it"
are you kidding? we are so in denial its not even funny
almost like this:
t: you were with that ho last night
me: nope
t: you're dead (while she's holding a gun)
me: nope
t: (after she's tied me to a chair, doused me in gas and has lit the match) you're done!!
me: nope
that level of denial
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 08:24 AM (uIQK6)
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 08:24 AM (Fo83G)
Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 08:25 AM (fy8R6)
Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 12:11 PM (qdtoY)
Hmmmm ... guess I was not clear...
My point was that this is FAR from over....
Does Mubarik really think that giving his Right Hand Dude a PROMOTION is gong quiet the protests?
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 08:25 AM (AdK6a)
Both of them think that once they get control, the other side can be neutralized.
The Iranian Communists that helped overthrow the Shah thought the same thing.
They were wrong. Dead wrong.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 29, 2011 08:25 AM (9hSKh)
Well Chicago also doesn't have irreplaceable 3,000-year-old artifacts. They have obnoxious beer-swilling Cubs fans. Big difference.
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 08:26 AM (pqsMB)
How many commie countries have high-speed rail, by the way?
Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 12:24 PM (qdtoY)
Only Zamunda has high speed rail, thanks to the effort of King Jaffe Joffer.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 08:26 AM (ZHsNw)
I went to the Egyptian Museum back in '88. There is no way to describe how incredible their collection is. And I'm sure I only saw a small fraction of it. Most was probably rotated into storage, and I only had half a day to see the rest.
One thing I noticed was how flimsy some of the display cases were. If someone had wanted to break a large case of tourquiose and gold jewelry, it wouldn't have been hard. But that was half a life ago. Maybe it's been updated.
Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 08:26 AM (1cC24)
Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 08:27 AM (fy8R6)
Sulieman has a reputation for being a brutish thug who has no aversion to torture..torture torture, not just making the prisoner uncomfortable.
...but if it's Allahpoundit's fantasy girlfriend Kirsten Powers' uncle, well then he's a great guy
Posted by: beedubya at January 29, 2011 08:28 AM (AnTyA)
126 Well Chicago also doesn't have irreplaceable 3,000-year-old artifacts. They have obnoxious beer-swilling Cubs fans. Big difference
ummm, we make better spouses? i would ask the wife but her answer may shatter my fragile ego
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 08:28 AM (uIQK6)
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 08:28 AM (0Hp4r)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 08:28 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: texette at January 29, 2011 08:29 AM (5bYzm)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 12:23 PM (AZGON)
Blacklight posters!
On the serious side, a vote for B Hussein in 2008 was a vote to replay the 60's (as he was nothing but a representative of the same old 60's coalition of America-hating commies, idiots, and black militants) and it was clear at that point that this experiment in suicidal idiocy would end the same way the 60's ended, except that it would be 10000 times worse, since the radicals aren't just running around the streets causing problems, but holding all the levers of power. Brace yourselves.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 08:29 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2011 08:30 AM (TMB3S)
Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 08:30 AM (fy8R6)
I know it sounds bad, but I am not saying it or effect or to be a prick. I'm serious. What is the economic and political value of Egyptian antiquities? It's not obvious to me that they are helping average Egyptians -- and by average Egyptians I mean the poor that we all want to forget exist.
A bunch of years ago my husband was doing book promotions. One of the books was written by an economist who analyzed the real economics of having a major professional team come into a city. Everyone always touts how it's great for the city, but this guy's research (which was ultra-scholarly and very rigorous; I think he was an NBER economist) demonstrated that it actually hurts a city economically.
Now that's not necessarily a reason to not have a pro sports team, but I guess what I'm saying is that something like that is the sort of thing a society can support if it is healthy and robust economically.
Maybe Egypt would be better off if it held a huge garage sale and sold off its antiquities. Or leased them. Or something.
And maybe Detroit would be better off without the Lions, Tigers, Redwings, and Pistons.
Posted by: Y-not is being philosophical at January 29, 2011 08:30 AM (pW2o8)
Posted by: Zahi Hawass at January 29, 2011 08:31 AM (Kmnx0)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 08:31 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: sherlock at January 29, 2011 08:32 AM (thr9V)
When Home Depot starts selling dark wall paneling with real wood-grain look, brace yourselves.
College son calls to tell me about how his apartment for next year has these great wood walls!....... Each generation has to make it's own mistakes.
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 08:32 AM (0Hp4r)
Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 08:32 AM (BPptn)
Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 08:32 AM (Kmnx0)
Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 08:32 AM (fy8R6)
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. I graduated high school in the mid '70's so I do have some fond memories of that era, and they might even include an occasional fond memory of disco;-)
Posted by: some wench at January 29, 2011 08:33 AM (bqjJT)
It's just that I think that something is a little wrong when we are more worried about a couple of destroyed mummies than we are about the filth and stench that many Egyptians live in each and every day with no hope of escaping.
Posted by: Y-not is being philosophical at January 29, 2011 08:34 AM (pW2o8)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 08:34 AM (AZGON)
It might, if it's actually being driven by forces like MB or communists that could be isolated by putting the intelligence chief in charge of the military. If it's a genuine people's uprising, probably not without real brutality.
Well, either way, it's probably going to get rough, but so would a revolution. And Sharia.
Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 08:34 AM (qdtoY)
Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 08:35 AM (5ql/p)
148 the filth and stench that many Egyptians live in each and every day with no hope of escaping
you think they would riot and overthrow the government
oh wait..........
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 08:35 AM (uIQK6)
Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 08:35 AM (5ql/p)
Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 08:35 AM (fy8R6)
Posted by: Brendan Fraser at January 29, 2011 08:36 AM (AZGON)
One thing I noticed was how flimsy some of the display cases were. If someone had wanted to break a large case of tourquiose and gold jewelry, it wouldn't have been hard. But that was half a life ago. Maybe it's been updated.
Grave robbing was a national pasttime there. Like, since the dawn of time! The populus views the theft of funerary items and the antiquities as one of the worst crimes against the state.
When people are caught robbing antiquities graves the penalties are quite profound. Think of the fate of child molesters in the general population of a prison. It's like that.
Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 08:37 AM (Kmnx0)
Is that who is rioting?
And who is doing the looting?
If the folks doing both are the underclass of Egypt and not a bunch of Islamists or Communist or outside agents, then bully for them. Let them steal the antiquities to fund their revolution. It's their history as much as it is Mubarek's.
See what I'm saying?
In the story about the citizens protecting the antiquities, the person they referred to is an engineer. I bet he has indoor plumbing.
Posted by: Y-not is being philosophical at January 29, 2011 08:38 AM (pW2o8)
Posted by: Shoppy at January 29, 2011 08:38 AM (KdEbQ)
Interesting that the protesters defended the museum. I would take that as a sign that the Islamists haven't co-opted the revolt just yet. Islamists really hate Egypt's attachment to all that pre-Islamic shit. Seriously, destruction of Pharaonic artifacts and such has always been on their to do list.
Posted by: Ronsonic at January 29, 2011 08:39 AM (UFJvm)
Sorry, guys. Clearly I need to get laid.
153
Has anyone pointed out that this is Obama's Shah/Iran moment?
Yes, Col. West.
From his FB/Twitter:
Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 08:39 AM (pW2o8)
Yeah, nothing that happened before the birth of Mohammed is important...why should anyone bother?
Was thinking today about the recent trend of returning antiquities from European and American collections to the countries from whence they came (in the 18th and 19th centuries, before it was realized primative societies were actually more enlightened than the West). I'm pretty sure it will continue, because it's more important to not "look racist" than to keep pre-Islamic objects from being destroyed.
Fun fact: Ground-up mummy bodies were used for black ink during the Rennaissance.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 29, 2011 08:40 AM (4ucxv)
I'm guessing that the antiquities are a major source of national pride and identity. Really what would that whole region be without it's ancient past? Does harkening back to it hold their society back or give them a sense of identity where they feel at least as valuable as more advanced societies? I don't think that is an appreciation for and an investment in their past that holds them back. It's their specific religion that holds them back and the degree to which they adhere to it.
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 08:40 AM (0Hp4r)
Posted by: Y-not is being philosophical at January 29, 2011 12:30 PM (pW2o
It has nothing to do with whether the antiquities help the average Egyptian or not. It doesn't matter. Arabs and muslims have NO RESPECT for historical artifacts. NONE. If anyone wants something historical preserved, having it in an arab country is almost a guarantee that it will eventually be looted, melted down and sold. We have seen this play out around the arab world (what happened in Iraq was not an anomaly in any way). They even pull this shit in Jerusalem, on the Temple Mount.
You know why the Dead Sea Scrolls are in a bunch of little pieces? Because arabs were offered to be paid by the piece for them, so they would find large scroll parts and break them up to make more money.
Islam has no respect for history and arab cultures have never had any respect for history, either. The only things that have ever been important to them are large rocks.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 08:40 AM (N49h9)
Well that's the same thing Adam Smith talked about when he wrote that we cry more when we prick our finger than if an earthquake were to swallow up all of China. The priceless Egyptian artifacts have value to us and our culture. Poor Egyptian yooths? Not so much.
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 08:41 AM (pqsMB)
Should change that to "Y-not is making sense."
Posted by: MrScribbler© at January 29, 2011 08:41 AM (Ulu3i)
159 i was kidding
the only concern i have out of this whole mess is the price of gas and if the muslim brotherhood will take over
as far as the antiquities go, i'll hush on my opinion of that...its kind of not nice
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 08:42 AM (uIQK6)
Posted by: Hosni Mubarak at January 29, 2011 08:43 AM (AZGON)
I think I made more sense in the later post:
163 /philosophical mode off
Sorry, guys. Clearly I need to get laid.
Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 08:43 AM (pW2o8)
You know who could fix this?
Tom Friedman.
All he has to do is put on his 'serious face' and say two or three sentences of college-sophomore-sounding jejune phrases.
Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 08:44 AM (BPptn)
Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 08:44 AM (fy8R6)
Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 08:45 AM (pW2o8)
Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 12:45 PM (pW2o
Peace be upon him.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 08:46 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: C.S Lewis at January 29, 2011 08:46 AM (RHFUq)
Posted by: Y-not is being philosophical
Detroit's problems are from the downsizing and out sourcing of the auto factories and their supply chains to Mexico and Canada, and elsewhere (right to work states) and their falling market share of auto sales, largely due to the omnipresent reactionary antics of the UAW. This then led to white-middle class abandonment of the core city of Detroit, and the rise of the present cleptocracy minority- led city government.
So yeah, cleptocracy governments everywhere will promote the circus of professional sports and their associated coliseums, to the detriment of any sort of honest development and private enterprise business growth. And still have the chimera of "popular government" to give it the Good Housekeeping seal of approval.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes... at January 29, 2011 08:46 AM (sJTmU)
Great, one of the biggest asshole douchebag trolls who I'm sure got his link from either Kos or whatever Obama's propaganda site is called, I'm sure is honored.
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 08:46 AM (0Hp4r)
Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 08:46 AM (qdtoY)
btw, the news never mentions this but Obama has American hostages in Iran for far more days than Carter.
Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 08:46 AM (BPptn)
Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 12:45 PM
Peace Be Unto Him.
(That lets you and all moronettes out, Y-not.)
Or: Peanut Butter Under Ham.
Posted by: MrScribbler© at January 29, 2011 08:47 AM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 08:47 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: moki at January 29, 2011 08:47 AM (dZmFh)
Damn, that's disturbing.
Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 08:48 AM (qdtoY)
Posted by: What the LSM Wont Tell You at January 29, 2011 08:48 AM (FQn+U)
Sorry, guys. Clearly I need to get laid.
No, no. Not engaging in decadence = increased brain power. What's more important anyway?
(This was a plot line of a Seinfeld episode, if memory serves me correctly).
175 Can someone tell me what PBUH stands for? I always see it and I never know wtf it means.
PBUH - Peace Be Upon Him (Mohammed)
Or, Piss Be upon Him,
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 29, 2011 08:49 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Hosni Mubarak at January 29, 2011 12:43 PM
You should paint them white to reduce global warming. While I'm thinking about it, it would also be a good idea for you to paint all that sand white.
Posted by: Steven Chu at January 29, 2011 08:49 AM (pNQJY)
Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 08:49 AM (fy8R6)
Posted by: Ali from match.com at January 29, 2011 08:50 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 08:51 AM (0Hp4r)
Yeah, I assume that's the value (aside from the cultural value).
But after learning about the economics of major sports in the U.S., I have become a little skeptical about assuming that tourism dollars flow through/down to the people who need them. I mean, if the government and society are corrupt/totalitarian, then I don't know if the dollars accomplish what we'd all hope they accomplish.
Thanks for the PBUH explanations!
Off to Cabelas to see if I can find the dog a dog bed. She has decided to use our living room chairs which is not on!
Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 08:51 AM (pW2o8)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 08:52 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 08:53 AM (fy8R6)
Damn, that's disturbing.
Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 12:48 PMGreat minds, dude. Great minds....
Posted by: MrScribbler© has the fastest comebacks at January 29, 2011 08:53 AM (Ulu3i)
It sucks that the world still has to live with the billion+ followers of that false prophet Mohammad. A 6th century murderous,child rapist schizo warlord named Mohammad hears voices and 1400 years later we still have to live with the consequences.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 29, 2011 08:53 AM (QcFbt)
That works with pooches? I know it's surefire with kittehs....
Posted by: MrScribbler© at January 29, 2011 08:54 AM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: texette at January 29, 2011 08:55 AM (beZqk)
Tourists need cabs, tour guides, food, hotels, souvenirs, etc. You're right, corruption might eat up a lot of the cash coming in, but there's still jobs to be had from all that activity.
Other than tourism, what industry does Egypt have?
Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 08:56 AM (qdtoY)
I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall when that sleazy creep in the White House talked with Mubarak yesterday.
The course of events show that, contrary to what that compulsive and pathological liar said to save face during his press conference yesterday, he most certainly did not sternly lecture Mubarak, who isn't a man to whom someone can lecture anyway, or someone who will back down to a pimp.
A much more likely scenario was that Obama asked Mubarak to step down, and Mubarak politely told Obama to go fuck himself. Today's events validate my suspicions, and so now the Obama Administration and their slimy shills in the MSM are frantically back-peddling and bullshitting to weasel their way out of their complicity in a revolt that is fizzling on them.
BTW, CNN, The Communist News Network is completely distorting the events which are occurring in Egypt - deliberately, not inadvertently..
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 08:56 AM (sYrWB)
It should be kept in mind that whenever muslims or arabs fight, the first thing they look to do is destroy religious places and precious artifacts, even against other muslims (and they don't care about destroying their own, either). Scorched Earth is a deeply imbedded cultural strategy in the arab/persian/muslim world, because they don't value anything other than forcing submission. The fact is that Westerners value most other people's artifacts far more than they do and we also value their lives far more than they do, which is just plain stupid.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 08:56 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 08:56 AM (fy8R6)
Actually, as a non-humanist grouch, I'd prefer brooming the peasants and hanging on to the antiquities....
Same goes in D.C.
Posted by: MrScribbler© at January 29, 2011 08:57 AM (Ulu3i)
Also, a chief negotiator with the US, Israel and the Palestinkians.
That said, Osamabama will hate him.
Posted by: What the LSM Wont Tell You at January 29, 2011 08:57 AM (FQn+U)
Posted by: Shoppy at January 29, 2011 08:57 AM (Z12xM)
/Timmy Thomas youtube link posted without comment.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at January 29, 2011 08:59 AM (MxETE)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 08:59 AM (alr7n)
Does this mean you guys want to buy a calendar?
How about a cook book?
Mint 1st edition Greene Man comic book?
Posted by: Chubbles Johnson at January 29, 2011 09:00 AM (o0D5y)
Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 09:00 AM (1cC24)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 09:01 AM (AZGON)
Other than tourism, what industry does Egypt have?
Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 12:56 PM (qdtoY)
The Suez Canal, which the Egyptians are lucky other people came to build, that they then stole - just like the gulf oil fields.
Another interesting note on Egyptian love of artifacts. They drowned quite a bit of priceless ancient Egyptian history with the Aswan-High Dam, without even batting an eyelash.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 09:01 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 09:01 AM (1cC24)
I wonder if the seed was planted when the Muslims helped by being human shields to let the Coptic Orthodox Christians have a easier Christmas after a massacre a few days before. I hope all the Christians and Churches are not a main target for damage. If they are, the riots would have to have a religious mode and be bad because the Brotherhood will have control. Lets hope the churches are treated like the museum and get the protectors regardless of religion.
Posted by: Tjexcite at January 29, 2011 09:02 AM (0oLjq)
Posted by: Buffalobob at January 29, 2011 09:02 AM (GwH6h)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 12:59 PM (alr7n)
Yeah, its interesting that everyone thinks these are Pro Western Democracy Protests...
History.... Nazis had large scale protests.
Communists in Russia? Protests.
French Revolution? Mob Protests which brought down multiple Governments.
I think this is a case of wishful thinking by the Administrtion, and those who spin for it.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 09:02 AM (AdK6a)
Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 09:03 AM (fy8R6)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 09:04 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 09:04 AM (alr7n)
Yes.
Also delete the little fuck's posts.
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 29, 2011 09:05 AM (STZ9e)
Waterhouse do a lot of people have this fainting spell?
Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 09:05 AM (1cC24)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 09:06 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 09:06 AM (BPptn)
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 29, 2011 09:06 AM (STZ9e)
Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 09:07 AM (1cC24)
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at January 29, 2011 09:08 AM (MxETE)
Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 09:08 AM (BPptn)
Posted by: A1 at January 29, 2011 09:08 AM (Z12xM)
Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 09:09 AM (1cC24)
you know, i'm getting ready to put a couple laptops up for sale
i wonder if i can add some mummies to the ad?
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 09:09 AM (uIQK6)
Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 09:09 AM (1cC24)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 29, 2011 09:10 AM (c5RQr)
This will NOT end well, as Communism and Islam do that to countries they control. Posted by: Hrothgar
I bet King Faud is getting his diaper changed hourly. This does not bode well for the King. OBL wants this to happen in S.A. just like his right hand man, Egyptian doctor Zawahiri wants for Egypt.
Posted by: What the LSM Wont Tell You at January 29, 2011 09:12 AM (FQn+U)
If there was no likelihood of the Muslim Brotherhood winding up filling any void of power in Egypt and turning it into a new Iran, I would be on the side of these protesters
I suspect that they are actually behind the protests. In Egypt, a substantial portion of their GDP comes from tourism. MB terrorists killed several tourists in Luxor a few years ago, and continually make threats, so they damage the tourism of Egypt. Then, as the economy goes south, they gain the unwitting support of the poor to overthrow the current regime. Once the regime is gone, they install their own dictatorship to fill the void. Look at Russia 1917-1921, France 1789-1805, etc. and you will see the same scenario. The totalitarians, whether marxist or muslim theocrats, don't take advantage of a power vacuum, they create it, and dupe the common man into assisting them.
Posted by: Vashta.Nerada at January 29, 2011 09:12 AM (9Uxl0)
Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 09:12 AM (1cC24)
I am not serious, of course, but how does your inhumanity feel when it's thrown back in your stupid face?
Shut the fuck up and fuck you.
How does that feel?
Is today Asshole Day at AoS?
Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 09:13 AM (5ql/p)
ncj - Did you watch 'Somewhere Back in Time' with the little one last night?
As soon as I saw Dave Murray spin his axe around his back, I thought of your little rock star.
Does she need some Strap-Loks?
Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 09:13 AM (Kmnx0)
Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 09:14 AM (fy8R6)
Posted by: A1 at January 29, 2011 01:08 PM (Z12xM)
You care far more about Egyptian lives than Egyptians do. Does that make you feel morally superior, or something?
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 09:14 AM (N49h9)
okay, rddrewer.
you're now the 3rd worst blogger at AoS
Any more lip from you and you'll be demoted to 2nd worst.
Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 09:15 AM (5ql/p)
Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 09:15 AM (1cC24)
Posted by: Vashta.Nerada at January 29, 2011 01:12 PM (9Uxl0)
One "indicators" the Press and many pundits seem to be missing... it that they are gathering at MOSQUES, and then marching on the Public buildings...
Not a good sign IMO.
Westerners no longer understand the Intersection of Religion and Politics that Islam embraces... we kinda threw it out during the Reformation.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 09:16 AM (AdK6a)
You do know the real in real estate comes from the Spanish real
nah....that's just coincidental..
Real today means "actual". The older English meaning is more like "pertaining to"...Latin root is "res"
Posted by: beedubya at January 29, 2011 09:16 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 09:18 AM (AZGON)
Rising death toll in Egypt protests: Cairo 25; Suez 38; Alexandria 36 - Al Jazeera
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 29, 2011 09:18 AM (9hSKh)
Westerners no longer understand the Intersection of Religion and Politics that Islam embraces... we kinda threw it out during the Reformation.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 01:16 PM (AdK6a)
Ataturk did his best to explain it to the West.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 09:19 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: Commissioner Gordon at January 29, 2011 09:19 AM (L00d6)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 09:19 AM (sYrWB)
Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 09:19 AM (5ql/p)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 09:20 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 09:21 AM (pqsMB)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 09:21 AM (AZGON)
248 nope, and i think she grew out of stage tricks
she's in her room playing black-ops with her cousins but she needs to be practicing for tomorrow, she's supposed to be learning to use her pinky for soloing...the oversized frets and her tiny finger spread makes it rough cause you can side fret but she doesn't have the finger strentgh yet
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 09:22 AM (uIQK6)
Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 09:22 AM (fy8R6)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes... at January 29, 2011 12:46 PM (sJTmU)
Best succinct description/explanation on the sitch in Detroit I've seen.
Posted by: beedubya at January 29, 2011 09:22 AM (AnTyA)
El Baradei: "Egypt is in a state of collapse."
So, here's some kindling, kerosene, and matches.
Now go set yourselves on fire in a public square.
Posted by: El Baradei with Pockets Full of MullahBucks at January 29, 2011 09:22 AM (Kmnx0)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 29, 2011 09:22 AM (eOXTH)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2011 09:22 AM (TMB3S)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 09:22 AM (alr7n)
How W ever thought democracy and Islam could meld is beyond me. Iraq, I concede, because it was secular, had the best chance of becoming a democracy. However, it is quickly regressing to another sh*t hole theocracy. Islamics require authoritarian control. They do not have the education or intrinsic belief in freedom because islam is shoved down their throats from birth. Someone said, I think Golda Meir, that until islamics love their kids more than they love death, they will never be able to self-govern.
Posted by: What the LSM Wont Tell You at January 29, 2011 09:23 AM (FQn+U)
I don't have any recollection of JEA. S/he coughed-up the link to the very nice CSM article. Am I supposed to delete the credit now that I know s/he's a troll?
I've been waiting for 2 weeks for JEA to provide the links showing that Fox, Rush, and conservative blogs get all of their information and marching orders from oppressive corporate capitalist powers. So after he provides those then he can work on providing other links. Seems fair.
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 09:24 AM (0Hp4r)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 09:24 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 29, 2011 09:25 AM (QcFbt)
the oversized frets and her tiny finger spread makes it rough cause you can side fret but she doesn't have the finger strentgh yet
My dad still has no pinkie for solos.
Get her a Raquetball to build strength and teach her to stretch out her hands.
Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 09:25 AM (Kmnx0)
Posted by: beedubya at January 29, 2011 09:26 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 01:19 PM (sYrWB)
Some sites were cut and reassambled, including major tourist sites, but signifcant amount did get flooded--For instance, there was a network of very large ancient Egyptian forts that's now completely covered with water.
Posted by: AD at January 29, 2011 09:26 AM (9r1ux)
277 good idea on the raquetball, will do
she thinks she has the stretch already because she's "george lynch with better hair"
my women amaze me
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 09:27 AM (uIQK6)
For instance, there was a network of very large ancient Egyptian forts that's now completely covered with water.
Underwater Antiquities Based Tourism!
Posted by: Zahi Hawass - Bog of Douche at January 29, 2011 09:28 AM (Kmnx0)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 09:29 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 09:29 AM (alr7n)
she thinks she has the stretch already because she's "george lynch with better hair"
There are some table-top excercises that will help her limber up...I'll look around today and see if I can find a link to them. I've seen a few on Guitar Boards re: Hand Surgery / Injury Recovery.
If I find the ones I am thinking of I will bookmark them and link them on an ONT.
Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 09:30 AM (Kmnx0)
One of the books was written by an economist who analyzed the real economics of having a major professional team come into a city. Everyone always touts how it's great for the city, but this guy's research (which was ultra-scholarly and very rigorous; I think he was an NBER economist) demonstrated that it actually hurts a city
Y...I think it actually had to do with the city subsidizing the arenas for the sports teams
Posted by: beedubya at January 29, 2011 09:31 AM (AnTyA)
We need to hold contests each day called Today's Shiny Object at AoStm where we pick what subject will derail a thread.
Will it be hot dogs and condiments? Maybe it will be hunting?
Or maybe guitars?
Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 09:31 AM (BPptn)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 09:33 AM (alr7n)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 01:29 PM (alr7n)
Exactly. It's funny that the Western leftists who constantly scream about cultural relativism act as if the whole world thinks just as the West does. They even go so far as to think that cross-cultural empathy is some sort of accurate gauge. It's also funny how these same Western "cultural relativists" keep calling everything that passes through their pea-brains "universal values".
Cognitive dissonance. It's where the left lives.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 09:33 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 09:33 AM (BPptn)
Posted by: knuckleheads stupid knuckle at January 29, 2011 09:34 AM (guyRL)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 09:35 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 09:36 AM (pqsMB)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 09:36 AM (alr7n)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 09:37 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 01:22 PM (alr7n)
Yeah... its going to be intresting when Christian Men, suddenly get angry enough to realize that the Religion has been wimpified way beyond what was intended...
When will it be time to throw the MoneyChangers from the Temple...
When will it be time to sell our Cloaks, to buy a Sword...
Its coming... and its going to be ugly.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 09:38 AM (AdK6a)
The Western elites, as you call them, view all non-whites as victims...even in their own counties.
Can you imagine traveling with a college-campus leftist intellectual to Egypt or Mexico or Somalia? They'd spend their time feeling sorry for the locals because they're victims of the White Man.
Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 09:39 AM (5ql/p)
We need to hold contests each day called Today's Shiny Object at AoStm where we pick what subject will derail a thread.
Or maybe guitars?
OK..I'll start...and go with guitars cuz just this morning I picked up an un-used, but scratched, Epiphone Les Paul Standard for $99.00
Posted by: beedubya at January 29, 2011 09:39 AM (AnTyA)
I'd like to see the left wrap their inane little minds around the fact that these mohammed worshipers have been breeding with their first cousins for hundreds and hundreds of years. Couple that with a religion that represses thought, encourages murder, subjugates at a minimum half of society, and revels in hatred and death and you get something less than human.
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 09:40 AM (0Hp4r)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 29, 2011 09:41 AM (c5RQr)
Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 09:41 AM (qdtoY)
Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 09:41 AM (Ez4Ql)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2011 09:41 AM (TMB3S)
I said early on that the street protesters may have been mainly genuine reformers but ultimately it didn't matter because the MB was playing the background - I guessed that ElBaradEi was one of their cards and it looks like he's out of play, which is good news.
Maybe (if we're lucky) this has spun out of the MB's control. They're crafty but also more cautious than other groups, they have been slow on the uptake in the past. Maybe they thought *too* long-term this time.
Need to find out more about Suleiman, but while press coverage is nothing to actually base your decisions on it's nice to see stories about protesters protecting heritage sites. Gives everyone a moment of "feel-good" during this crap.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at January 29, 2011 09:42 AM (bxiXv)
The first principle of campus group thinktm: All non-whites are oppressed people.
Everything they do, say, and think is based on that.
Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 09:43 AM (5ql/p)
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 09:45 AM (AdK6a)
Posted by: Gen. Sir Harry Flashman, VC at January 29, 2011 09:45 AM (ffZ9M)
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 09:45 AM (0Hp4r)
Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 09:46 AM (Kmnx0)
I suspect this has been posted before, but anyway: below is a link to an article in Telegraph UK claiming covert support and encouragement for the Egyptian uprising by the Obama regime. Since this goes back to at least December 2008, perhaps it is yet another policy continued from the Bush years. Or, the State Department has been operatiing as a power unto itself - again.
Perhaps this is sidebar-worthy.
Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising The American government secretly backed leading figures behind the Egyptian uprising who have been planning “regime change” for the past three years, The Daily Telegraph has learned.
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at January 29, 2011 09:46 AM (5YgO+)
Posted by: Vashta.Nerada at January 29, 2011 09:48 AM (9Uxl0)
btw, anyone keeping count of how many evil dictators the Obama admin has supported while their people went batshit crazy?
Honduras, Iran, and now Egypt. Who else?
Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 09:48 AM (5ql/p)
My 5 year old told the clerk, 'Mom's worried about E-Gypt!'
Clerk looked at my son and asked him (not me), 'Why, did a plane crash or something?'
We are boned until our (younger) kids are old enough to vote. The tween set gives me little hope.
Posted by: momma at January 29, 2011 09:49 AM (penCf)
Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 09:49 AM (BPptn)
Big knives are shiny.
Posted by: 1,000 Ghurkas at your doorstep at January 29, 2011 09:49 AM (o0D5y)
293 God you dumb knuckleheads will only be happy until every "mussie" is dead huh?
or prison.....yeah, that works for me yep yep
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 09:49 AM (uIQK6)
btw, anyone keeping count of how many evil dictators the Obama admin has supported while their people went batshit crazy?
Honduras, Iran, and now Egypt. Who else?
Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 01:48 PM (5ql/p)
The European Union.
And Venezuela.
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at January 29, 2011 09:50 AM (5YgO+)
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 01:45 PM (0Hp4r)
Yeah, could you imagine if someone started a NEW Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon ... ie the Templars...
The Howling from the Elites would be hears all the way to Temple Mount...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 09:50 AM (AdK6a)
Yeah, well on the other hand, I remember seeing something similar to this happen in Iran a little over 30 years ago. It did not end well.
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 29, 2011 09:50 AM (R88Ry)
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 09:51 AM (0Hp4r)
BTW, CNN, The Communist News Network is completely distorting the events which are occurring in Egypt -deliberately, not inadvertently..--Posted by: Brian
Yes, not that the left's ingrained, kneejerk anti-American tone oozing from their commentary is surprising in the least. Yesterday one of CNN's correspondents on the ground in Egypt went out of his way to make what he imagined to be a Very Important Point that a tear gas cannister fired by the Army had "Made in the U.S." stamped on it. Similarly the New York Times which described Mubarak’s government as “American-backed”, thus by snide implication making America somehow responsible for all the evils putatively committed by Mubarak’s government simply by virtue of the fact that America recognizes the existence of Mubarak’s government and deals with it in terms of realpolitik.
Posted by: Commissioner Gordon at January 29, 2011 09:51 AM (L00d6)
Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 09:51 AM (qdtoY)
Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 09:51 AM (Ez4Ql)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 09:52 AM (uIQK6)
Are we counting just the ones he's personally bowed to?
Posted by: AD at January 29, 2011 09:52 AM (9r1ux)
Type like an Egyptian... with your boobs!
French Revolution? Mob Protests which brought down multiple Governments.
But the French invented democracy... I'm confused.Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 29, 2011 09:53 AM (mHQ7T)
How about cold titties?
Posted by: momma at January 29, 2011 09:54 AM (penCf)
Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 09:55 AM (Ez4Ql)
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 01:51 PM (0Hp4r)
You are channeling Keefums again?
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 09:55 AM (pqsMB)
Oh! I know! I know! Pick me!
What is America for $1,000 Alex?
Posted by: momma at January 29, 2011 09:56 AM (penCf)
Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 09:56 AM (Ez4Ql)
I bet most libs would tell you that Islam is the oldest religion and that Christianity is just trying to invade the Mid East. Their heads would probably explode if you told them Christianity was there centuries before.
Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 09:57 AM (qdtoY)
Posted by: Muckraker at January 29, 2011 09:59 AM (6K81O)
Their heads would probably explode if you told them Judaism Christianity was there centuries before.
fixed for maximum offense
Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 10:01 AM (Kmnx0)
I'm thinking Omar has a nice thick file on how much Tehran has been paying El Baradei over the years; and blaming this on "those crafty Shiite bastards in Iran" with a perfect fall guy already under house arrest, isn't a bad way out of this mess.
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2011 10:04 AM (CPefM)
"A bipartisan group of top-ranking lawmakers is calling on the Obama administration to veto an 'anti-Israel' resolution being pushed by Palestinian leaders at the United Nations.
In a letter to President Obama, House Republican Leader Eric Cantor and Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer joined other officials in claiming the proposed resolution was 'without merit' and should be publicly condemned."
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 10:05 AM (sZ+lP)
Leading off tonight: Unrest in Egypt. Proving the Iraq war wasn`t needed these protests in Egypt, as well as in Yemen and Tunisia, are all aimed at dictators supported by the U.S. The demonstrations have not yet turned anti-American, but they could. These are the events the Bush administration hoped to encourage by lying about weapons of mass destruction and invading Iraq. A live report from Richard Engel at the scene coming up. And we`ll stay on this story throughout the hour as events warrant
Posted by: Pink Soothsayer at January 29, 2011 10:09 AM (5ql/p)
A senior Obama administration official, meanwhile, said Friday evening that Mubarak’s speech was “hardly conciliatory and highly disappointing, but what did you expect?”
It’s clear, the official said — speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter — that Mubarak believes he can ride this out, “and this time, we’re not so sure that is the right assumption.”
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 10:12 AM (sZ+lP)
The above is Chris "Malari Brain" Matthews' prelude to his show yesterday.
The protesters haven't turned anti-American...yet...but they will when they realize it was America's and specifically George Bush's meddling and lying that caused all their problems.
Posted by: Pink Soothsayer at January 29, 2011 10:12 AM (5ql/p)
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 10:14 AM (pqsMB)
Their heads would probably explode if you told them Judaism Christianity was there centuries almost two millenia before.
fixed for maximum offense
Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 02:01 PM (Kmnx)
refixed for maximum offense
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 10:16 AM (N49h9)
Remember when Biden said Obama would be tested and people wouldn't think he was doing the right thing?
I hope to God this isn't another one of those times.
Posted by: Palandine at January 29, 2011 10:16 AM (g7D8V)
I've been on T-Mobile for about three years now. I do pre-paid. After you hit the $100 mark, you get 15% more minutes, and they last for a year.
Just got an unlocked smartphone and put my TMobile sim card in it.
Posted by: shibumi at January 29, 2011 10:18 AM (OKZrE)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 29, 2011 10:20 AM (c5RQr)
Armed looters with Central Security IDs...
Businesses and hospitals being looted...
Children's Cancer Hospital looted...
Clashes at/in a Prison...
Thugs with knives, chains...
Complete breakdown of law and order.
Meanwhile, reporting by U. S. media outlets is pathetic, giving little but endless, repetitive droning commentary. whlie U.S. diplomats are tweeting foreign policy.
Now Al Jazeera is receiving frantic calls for help from the Egyptian populace, asking where they should go and what to do. The only answer, of course, is that they're on their own.
Posted by: Commissioner Gordon at January 29, 2011 10:22 AM (L00d6)
Kudlow? I heard that particular brand of idiot telling me a couple of weeks back on the radio that inflation was non-existent. Why, oh why, does anyone cite to him as an authority?
Posted by: ed at January 29, 2011 11:49 AMIt is non-existent! As proof, I've cut the price of my newsletter and web site subscriptions by 5 percent!
BUY! BUY! BUY! BEFORE YOU'RE PRICED OUT
Posted by: Jim Cosmo Cramer at January 29, 2011 10:22 AM (vdfwz)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 10:24 AM (AZGON)
The above is Chris "Malari Brain" Matthews' prelude to his show yesterday.
The protesters haven't turned anti-American...yet...but they will when they realize it was America's and specifically George Bush's meddling and lying that caused all their problems.
Posted by: Pink Soothsayer at January 29, 2011 02:12 PM
Yes, they saw Sarah Palin's targets and saw Michele Bachmann blinking in code to them. Give me a damn minute, I'll work that into the story
Posted by: Chrissy Matthews at January 29, 2011 10:25 AM (vdfwz)
Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 10:29 AM (Ez4Ql)
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. I graduated high school in the mid '70's so I do have some fond memories of that era, and they might even include an occasional fond memory of disco;-)
Posted by: some wench at January 29, 2011 12:33 PM
The 70s ; Feel it now
Posted by: kbdabear at January 29, 2011 10:29 AM (vdfwz)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 10:30 AM (AZGON)
No offense - but I'd rather use soup cans and twine before I'll use an Apple product.
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 10:31 AM (pqsMB)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 10:31 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 02:31 PM (pqsMB)
Hear, hear!
And that goes double for any google products.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 10:32 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: AT&T at January 29, 2011 10:33 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 10:33 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 10:35 AM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 10:35 AM (AZGON)
Go ahead start your bashing. but he's a good option from my POV.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 29, 2011 10:36 AM (xdHzq)
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 02:31 PM
Cool, hip, ironic, and I can reel in the Andy Warhol fanboys. I love it!
The Yes i-Can
The Macolytes will be lining up for blocks for days before they go on sale!
Now, back to you, Meester Bond ...
Posted by: Steve Jobs at January 29, 2011 10:36 AM (vdfwz)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 10:36 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: James T Kirk at January 29, 2011 10:38 AM (vdfwz)
Posted by: Montgomery Scott at January 29, 2011 10:41 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: railwriter at January 29, 2011 10:41 AM (daRzV)
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 10:42 AM (0Hp4r)
If the thugs already haven't been on the streets, they will be now. When law and order break down, it's everyone for themselves. Unfortunately, that means looting In a country where one hell of a lot of people are dead poor.
This is not going to have a good end.
Posted by: HH at January 29, 2011 10:43 AM (6oDXl)
Posted by: David Gregory at January 29, 2011 10:44 AM (AZGON)
How about cold titties?
Posted by: momma at January 29, 2011 01:54 PM (penCf)
You raise some interesting points. Two, in fact.
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 29, 2011 10:48 AM (XBM1t)
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 10:51 AM (0Hp4r)
Apple stuff is generally stylish, but not very robust in the internal mechanical design aspects.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 29, 2011 10:53 AM (oHdHd)
Posted by: nostradamus at January 29, 2011 10:53 AM (ngvie)
Posted by: James T Kirk at January 29, 2011 02:38 PM (vdfwz)
Really? /eyes glow
Posted by: Nephertiri, the Gould at January 29, 2011 10:54 AM (AdK6a)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 29, 2011 10:56 AM (xdHzq)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 29, 2011 10:57 AM (xdHzq)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 10:57 AM (sYrWB)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 10:57 AM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 29, 2011 10:57 AM (c5RQr)
While I really should know better than to take Al Jazeera at its word, if you're Mubarak, this is the perfect plan--Withdraw any form of security from the populace, have some high profile anarchy such as the museum looting, and count on people eventually begging your regime to stay to keep order.
Yes, I now feel like the conspiracy nuts who kept yelling "false flag!!!11" at the World Trade Center a few years back. On the other hand, these are the actions of an actual dictatorship we're talking about instead of a pretend one.
Posted by: AD at January 29, 2011 10:58 AM (9r1ux)
And his best ally will be Israel. Undoubtedly Israeli intelligence agents penetrated the Egyption MB before they made this move.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 29, 2011 10:59 AM (oHdHd)
Why do we think our "power players" are any better than these scumbag marauders?
Posted by: bill at January 29, 2011 11:03 AM (VGEci)
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 11:04 AM (0Hp4r)
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 29, 2011 11:07 AM (DLxD/)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 11:10 AM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: James T Kirk at January 29, 2011 02:38 PM (vdfwz)
Really? /eyes glow
Posted by: Nephertiri, the Gould at January 29, 2011 02:54 PM (AdK6a)
Go ahead, my captain. Have your trifling trysts with exotic women. I know who'll be at my cabin door during those long, lonely warp speed runs across the universe. None of those other girls know how to wring out every last iota of command stress from you, holding you on the edge of forever. Yes, I will pout until you smooth my ruffled feathers of jealousy, but smooth them you will. For you can not resist my charms. Remember to get checked out by McCoy before you come a knocking at my door. I'll keep it warm for you, tiger.
Posted by: Yeoman Janice Rand at January 29, 2011 11:11 AM (XBM1t)
Fox reporting the Crisis Response Team assembling in the White House with Joe "Numbnuts" Biden advising.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 11:13 AM (ZHsNw)
On the issue of Egypt, is it common practice for the person in power to leave all the country's money there when they leave or do they take it out of the country and then the people have to track it down and try to take it back?
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 11:14 AM (p302b)
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 11:16 AM (0Hp4r)
Fox News has a great statesman speaking about Egypt. Well, statesman in his own mind if you're Alan "Skeletor" Colmes.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 11:16 AM (ZHsNw)
Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at January 29, 2011 11:16 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: railwriter at January 29, 2011 11:17 AM (daRzV)
Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 11:18 AM (Ez4Ql)
Where's the fabulous S E Cupp when you need succinct and reasoned analysis? Also a marvelous pair of double D's.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 11:18 AM (ZHsNw)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 02:57 PM (sYrWB)
Key is going to be which way the Army goes...
There is already video up of the Army (in M113s no less) interposing itself between rock throwing crowds, and the Police.
In many Mid East States, the Army is a power unto itself... (Turkey is a perfect example).
Posted by: Nephertiri, the Gould at January 29, 2011 11:19 AM (AdK6a)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 11:19 AM (AZGON)
I haven't watched it but I've heard a lot about it from everyone who does. It seems to me it is one of those movies that you watch on two or three levels. Some people really think it is magnificent because it can be watched on so many levels. I'm not going to see it but I hope Portman gets the oscar.
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 11:20 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 11:21 AM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 11:21 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 03:13 PM (ZHsNw)
Relax, remember, never let a good crisis go to waste. We're WTF here.
Posted by: Emanu, Rahm-in-Charge at January 29, 2011 11:22 AM (vC2SL)
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 11:22 AM (0Hp4r)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 11:22 AM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:20 PM (p302b)
Orrrr... as the Elites really think... if you don't like it its because you are not smart enough to see the many levels...
And of course, the rest of the Elites aggree... even though they really did not like it either..
Kinda like Modern Art... if you don't get it its because you are an idiot... not because you actualy want your Art to look like somthing.
Posted by: Nephertiri, the Gould at January 29, 2011 11:23 AM (AdK6a)
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 11:23 AM (p302b)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 11:23 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Nephertiri, the Gould at January 29, 2011 03:23 PM (AdK6a)
AHHHHH ... a Sock has taken over /eyes start to glow...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 11:24 AM (AdK6a)
Biden held the meeting because the Prez was at either Sasha or Malia's basketball game. Now, I'm all for supporting family members, but he should have chosen another day to attend.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 11:25 AM (sZ+lP)
Oh, when I deal with those kind of people, when I finally lose my patience and want to make sure they don't talk to me ever again I simply say "I have something you don't have" and of course they can resist and they say "oh really, what is that" and I say "common sense".
shuts them down right away
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 11:25 AM (p302b)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 11:25 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:21 PM (p302b)
I agree. And the other thing in the mid-east. If your country goes to shit, where do you run to?
Posted by: HH at January 29, 2011 11:26 AM (6oDXl)
Things are quiet but tense down there.
Also, machine-gun fire coming from the Ministry of Interior.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 11:27 AM (sZ+lP)
Biden held the meeting because the Prez was at either Sasha or Malia's basketball game. Now, I'm all for supporting family members, but he should have chosen another day to attend.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 03:25 PM (sZ+lP)
and that is the new attack on Sarah Palin, that her family is such a handful that she could not possibly handle the office of the president. Have read that idea so many times, said in so many different ways in the last week that I've decided that's a new Sarah Palin talking point.
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 11:27 AM (p302b)
Yea, that Jeffersonian Democracy will work in Egypt, the same way it's gonna work in Iraq.
Removes wishbone from pocket and calls bookie for odds!
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 11:28 AM (ZHsNw)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 11:28 AM (AZGON)
and that is the new attack on Sarah Palin, that her family is such a handful that she could not possibly handle the office of the president. Have read that idea so many times, said in so many different ways in the last week that I've decided that's a new Sarah Palin talking point.
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:27 PM (p302b)
New? They were talking about if she could handle being VP and a mother during 08.
Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 11:29 AM (oVQFe)
I agree. And the other thing in the mid-east. If your country goes to shit, where do you run to?
Posted by: HH at January 29, 2011 03:26 PM (6oDXl)
/rapidly writing a check from the Palistinian Refuge fund....
Oh.... I don't know....
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 29, 2011 11:29 AM (AdK6a)
New? They were talking about if she could handle being VP and a mother during 08.
Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 03:29 PM (oVQFe)
The detractors were correct. Sarah Palin is a girl.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 11:30 AM (ZHsNw)
Posted by: kbdabear at January 29, 2011 02:29 PM (vdfwz)
yea, I remember those days - after I watched that video I had to watch John Travolta in "saturday night fever"
_____________________
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 02:36 PM (AZGON)
Pretty soon we're going to have to have a Godwin rule as it relates to Palin.
Posted by: some wench at January 29, 2011 11:30 AM (bqjJT)
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 11:30 AM (p302b)
This is different in that the President has not bothered to take much time to discuss the situation either with world leaders or to cancel other events so as to meditate on the matter. In other worlds, the President seems more concerned about other matters and has done nothing but lecture. Palin would certainly show more leadership on and dedication to the issue.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 11:31 AM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 03:27 PM (sZ+lP)
/Taking notes for SOP document in case of large Protest Marches
Posted by: Janet Napolitano at January 29, 2011 11:31 AM (AdK6a)
WTF? Egypt is in open revolt and people are jumping into the feeds complaining about Sarah Palin? Are they going to explain why this is her fault now?
What The Future?
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at January 29, 2011 11:31 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 11:31 AM (0Hp4r)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 11:32 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Al Roker at January 29, 2011 11:32 AM (tvs2p)
, let them organize themselves and figure things out and have "the world" get out of their way.
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:30 PM (p302b)
Agreed!
Note to Hilly Clinton: Stop Payment on Egypt's Billion Dollar Boondoggle
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 11:32 AM (ZHsNw)
Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 11:33 AM (Ez4Ql)
Pretty soon we're going to have to have a Godwin rule as it relates to Palin.
Posted by: some wench at January 29, 2011 03:30 PM (bqjJT)
That or a new Game! 7 2 orders of seperation from Kevin Bacon Sarah Palin!
Posted by: Janet Napolitano at January 29, 2011 11:33 AM (AdK6a)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 11:33 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 11:34 AM (AZGON)
We could call it the Alaskan Corollary.
Maybe a new Urban dictionary entry!
Posted by: some wench at January 29, 2011 11:35 AM (bqjJT)
Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 03:33 PM (Ez4Ql)
She wasn't pretending, she attended one of the best ballet schools in New York when she was a kid through her teens until she finally started her movie career. I know people who have her on video tape dancing next to their kid.
She is a very nice person.
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 11:36 AM (p302b)
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 11:36 AM (0Hp4r)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 11:37 AM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 11:37 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 11:38 AM (Ez4Ql)
I just saw an Egyptian late model M-60.
I hear they have 550 M-1s. They could open up a real can of whoopass on the protesters.
Posted by: Ed Anger at January 29, 2011 11:38 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Commissioner Gordon at January 29, 2011 11:39 AM (L00d6)
it would have replaced the Orient Express that ran from 1883 to 2009,
it would provide a high-speed get-away for museum thieves.
Posted by: maverick muse at January 29, 2011 11:39 AM (H+LJc)
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 11:39 AM (0Hp4r)
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:30 PM (p302b)
The region has been at one war or another for most of recorded history.
The Western Imperialist Divison followed the Ottoman Imperialist Division which followed the Mongol Imperialist Division which followed the Seljuks which followed the Abbasids which followed the Umayyads which followed the Romans which followed the Persians which followed Hattusha (The Other Hittites) which followed the Babylonians which followed the Sumerians and I think it was the alien overlords before that or something.
The problem is that at least since 650 AD "the world" has been the unattainable goal for Middle Eastern empires, we can't "get out of their way" unless there's a reformation, which is unlikely.
I can understand the conclusion, it's not irrational, it's just wrong.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at January 29, 2011 11:40 AM (bxiXv)
But the idea that we caused this problem and that these areas were somehow living in perfect harmony before the West interfered is ridiculous.
Yeah, just like the Native Americans were living in peace and harmony before the whites came.
Utter crap!
Posted by: HH at January 29, 2011 11:41 AM (6oDXl)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 03:37 PM (sZ+lP)
Yeah, even the Muslims believe in the story of Cain and Abel.. which happened in the Mid East...
So.... to continue teh meme...
Cain and Abel is a Bible Story.... Sarah Palin has a Bible in her house... thus... its all Sarah's fault (see... only 2 orders of seperation!).
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 11:41 AM (AdK6a)
Posted by: Fannie Brice at January 29, 2011 11:42 AM (H+LJc)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 11:42 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 03:38 PM (Ez4Ql)
She could have gone on to be a professional dancer, she was taught by the best ballet dancers in the world, from the top NY ballet companies. She chose acting instead. She's older now, a little rusty, but when she was younger she could have gone on to be a ballerina. I know this to be a fact.
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 11:43 AM (p302b)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 11:44 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Frankly at January 29, 2011 11:44 AM (yC9nY)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 11:44 AM (sYrWB)
The Egyptians should consider themselves fortunate that the British just didn't steal all their transferable artifacts outright when they had the chance.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 11:45 AM (sZ+lP)
America has flucked me again by not supporting my regime. I will lose my job, but I also leave Egypt with billions of American dollars and will live a life of luxury in Paris. Fluck America, and fluck Obama.
Allah Akbar!
Posted by: Hosni Mubarak, The Mideast Won at January 29, 2011 11:45 AM (ZHsNw)
"I even like John McCain, I disagree with his war stance which is a really big deal — but I think he's a very moral person."
That's about as conservative a comment as you'll ever get from a Hollywood actress.
Posted by: The guy who would pay to be Natalie Portman's tutu at January 29, 2011 11:46 AM (UqJ8A)
then later on, you can teach little kids and take a lot of advil cause in your late 30's your body begins to fall apart.
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 11:46 AM (p302b)
She could have gone on to be a professional dancer, she was taught by the best ballet dancers in the world, from the top NY ballet companies. She chose acting instead. She's older now, a little rusty, but when she was younger she could have gone on to be a ballerina. I know this to be a fact.
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:43 PM (p302b)
She could have been a proffesional Dancer...
Sarah's Daughter was on dancing with the Stars...
Thus, it is Sarah's fault if she does not win an Oscar...
Posted by: MSM at January 29, 2011 11:47 AM (AdK6a)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 11:47 AM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: Kitten Natividad at January 29, 2011 11:48 AM (AZGON)
America has flucked me again by not supporting my regime. I will lose my job, but I also leave Egypt with billions of American dollars and will live a life of luxury in Paris. Fluck America, and fluck Obama.
Allah Akbar!
Posted by: Hosni Mubarak, The Mideast Won at January 29, 2011 03:45 PM (ZHsNw)
See? Another person will get HIRED to be the Leader of Egypt! Another job saved or created by the Obama administration!
Posted by: MSM at January 29, 2011 11:49 AM (AdK6a)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 11:49 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Frankly at January 29, 2011 03:44 PM
Yes, if only Obama had pushed NASA to do its job.
Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 11:50 AM (PSKdh)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 11:51 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 11:52 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 29, 2011 11:52 AM (DLxD/)
They can't decide which building is burning. It's now the National Press Club Building.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 11:52 AM (sZ+lP)
What's a healthy, young, attractive girl to do when her Captain's away boinking planetary sluts?
Dr. McCoy? He's too avuncular and grandfatherly, plus he lingers a bit too long palpitating things that don't need palpitating in the first place. "Electronic sensors are no match for trained hands, my dear" is such bullshit.
Engineer Scott? Sure he's a good time with his stories and free flowing drinks. Two words. Whiskey dick.
First Officer Spock? Yeah, just the guy for hot monkey love, once every seven years. Besides, Nurse manhands has the hots for him.
Lt Sulu? Wrong team. He's good with helping me with my wardrobe though.
Ensign Chekov? A boy. Can't control himself. He still hasn't apologised for that disgusting incident at the Academy's graduation dance.
Red shirts? Hell, every damn time I get grooving with one of those hunky, well built men, Kirk gets all jealous and assigns him to an away team. Sigh! Well at least those guys die happy IYKWIM.
And I'm definitely into men, so no wiseass Lt. Uhura suggestions from the peanut gallery.
What's a girl to do?
Posted by: Yeoman Janice Rand at January 29, 2011 11:53 AM (XBM1t)
Posted by: RushBabe at January 29, 2011 11:55 AM (urYpw)
Hearing that in Alexandria a fire is raging at a fertilizer plant directly adjacent to a huge nitric acid/ chemical combustibles factory.
Acid plant and fertilizer plant probably go together. My husband was plant accountant at an ammoniumnitrate plant and the number of really nasty acids that go into producing the stuff is astounding
Posted by: Polliwog at January 29, 2011 11:55 AM (ks4Rn)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 11:55 AM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: the Mess Deck at January 29, 2011 11:56 AM (AZGON)
moi please don't be angry with me, it's just I know some things that color my opinions
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 11:57 AM (p302b)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 11:58 AM (AZGON)
Ask Poland that deplores Winston Churchill as a pirate; and ask nearly any Eastern European country how well they regard the Allies for engaging in post-WWII Cold War suffering at the expense of Central/Eastern Europeans. Study the maps redrawn by Britain following WWI and WWII -- you don't even need to go back to the 19th Century Victorian Era when the Sun Never Set in the British Empire. Ask India whether Britain had the right to carve out Pakistan from Indian territory, as if giving Indian Muslims their own Pakistan identity solved any problems. Ask the King of Jordan whether Britain had the right to arbitrarily carve out Israel because Europe was unwilling to forfeit the hordes of Nazi stolen Jewish property throughout Europe in war reparations to Europe's Jewish population.
But what's done is done. And rioting is not going to improve a damned thing but to perform self inflicted wounds of terrorism.
Posted by: Fannie Brice at January 29, 2011 11:59 AM (H+LJc)
What's a girl to do?
Posted by: Yeoman Janice Rand at January 29, 2011 03:53 PM (XBM1t)
Well my Dear, I know some really nice Miners...
Posted by: Harry Mudd at January 29, 2011 11:59 AM (AdK6a)
She could have been a proffesional Dancer...
Sarah's Daughter was on dancing with the Stars...
Thus, it is Sarah's fault if she does not win an Oscar...
Very good! - 1 degree of separation in the it's Palin's fault game
Posted by: some wench at January 29, 2011 12:01 PM (bqjJT)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 12:02 PM (SJ6/3)
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 12:04 PM (p302b)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 12:04 PM (SJ6/3)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 12:04 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 04:02 PM (SJ6/3)
Wait... machine gunning is NOT public outreach??? We need to fix that meme!
/takes more notes for the "In Case of Protests" document...
Posted by: Janet Napoliano at January 29, 2011 12:04 PM (AdK6a)
Me too sickinmass...never been to Cairo. Maybe I'll head over there soon.
Always been fascinated by the goldsmithing they did with only basic tools. Did you know people used to eat ground up mummy for various ailments?
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 29, 2011 12:04 PM (DLxD/)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 12:05 PM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 12:06 PM (sZ+lP)
Always been fascinated by the goldsmithing they
did with only basic tools.
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 29, 2011 04:04 PM (DLxD/)
A gold cartouche is considered a must buy in Egypt. Also, a close encounter with an olive skinned beauty, but only if recommended by Miss Cleo of Psychic Friends Network.Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 12:07 PM (ZHsNw)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 12:07 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2011 12:07 PM (TMB3S)
What a mess over there. A pre-curser to the US of A? You know it's coming...
Question is when.
Posted by: sickinmass at January 29, 2011 04:05 PM (1rflU)
I could see small peacefull protests... but if the Middle Class erupts... it won't be rocks, it will be guns...
Which IMO means the Government would cave pretty quickly... as I don't know if the Army would fire on American Civilians (in large numbers).
Posted by: Janet Napoliano at January 29, 2011 12:07 PM (AdK6a)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 12:08 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 12:08 PM (sZ+lP)
Only problem is I can't walk with the whiole bent wrist thing and avoid bullets at the same time.
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 29, 2011 12:08 PM (DLxD/)
Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 12:09 PM (n0WLs)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 12:11 PM (sZ+lP)
I saw the King Tut exhibit when it came to the states. It was a bait-and-switch fraud. Only about half of the stuff was from Tut, and most of it was minor pieces. The Egyptians won't good stuff (the huge gold mask, etc) out of the country.
Posted by: Ombudsman at January 29, 2011 12:12 PM (c1oyg)
Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 04:09 PM (n0WLs)
He told me about one of their training videos that made a big impression. The lesson was "never walk through anything that looks like water or steam, it's probably not". The video was of a guy's shoes melting as he walks away from what had looked like a water puddle.
Posted by: Polliwog at January 29, 2011 12:13 PM (ks4Rn)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 12:13 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Montgomery Scott at January 29, 2011 02:58 PM
But I do make a great Nazi !
Posted by: James T Kirk at January 29, 2011 12:14 PM (vdfwz)
Looks like the Egyptian Army is letting the Protesters do their thing... not stopping them at all.
Police are off the streets.... is the word out that the Protesters are under the protection of the Army?
ie, Army enforcing a no major violence agenda on the POLICE?
If so.... Mooby is gone...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 12:16 PM (AdK6a)
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:30 PM (p302b)
That's a nice theory and while Churchill did sort of just draw up lines for the countries in the region or whatever it screams bullshit to me. Its not like it was a practice in inner city bussing and they split up their little enclaves. And the invasion of Kuwait, the Turks desires on Armenian lands, the Iran/Iraq war also put the lie to it. All those little "peaceful" enclaves want to be in control of everyone else. This area has a long history of being in control by other groups. From the Persians, to Alexander, the Romans, and the Ottoman Empire. Letting them organize how they want would result in a very bloody war and likely a genocide of multiple groups.
Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 12:16 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 12:18 PM (SJ6/3)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 12:18 PM (AZGON)
Which IMO means the Government would cave pretty quickly... as I don't know if the Army would fire on American Civilians (in large numbers).
Posted by: Janet Napoliano at January 29, 2011 04:07 PM (AdK6a)
Hence the reason in the media for the gross mischaracterizations of conservative dissent and their efforts to link Laughner to RW media. Even if that campaign weren't such a dismal failure, I still can't see our troops firing on civilians.
Besides, if our side ever did decide to take up arms in protest, it wouldn't be some mindless rabble busting up shop windows, throwing rocks and turning cars over. It would involve a ton of people who are not only armed, but many who are former/retired military with contacts within the very units ordered to fire upon them.
There'd be so many resignations in the officer ranks and disobeyed orders as to effectively shut down the military.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 29, 2011 12:18 PM (A/oSU)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 04:18 PM (SJ6/3)
Ah....good times.. good times
Posted by: Rodney King Rioter at January 29, 2011 12:19 PM (c1oyg)
Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 12:20 PM (Ez4Ql)
And I'm definitely into men, so no wiseass Lt. Uhura suggestions from the peanut gallery.
What's a girl to do?
Posted by: Yeoman Janice Rand at January 29, 2011 03:53 PMEverything on me grows to huge sizes, and I can cup your supple breasts from light years away
Posted by: Apollo at January 29, 2011 12:20 PM (vdfwz)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 12:21 PM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 12:22 PM (SJ6/3)
I agree the border-drawing was ad hoc. Yes, they wanted Arab states they could manipulate.
My problem is I still don't think you can merely blame Britain for all of this. By the time of the partition, the Muslims in Pakistan were set to go their own way whether Britain agreed to it or not. The Jewish inhabitants of Israel were also seeking a state before Britain even gained control of the region and the Balfour Declaration was over a decade before Nazis even came into power. If that made a king pissed, tough shit.
Yeah, it pissed off others in the region, though under the circumstances, I'd have more sympathy for them if their complaints had focused getting a state of their own vs. having to live with people of another religion and the Jews acquiring their own state as well (the fact that a king in Jordan controlled the West Bank for a couple decades didn't seem to annoy them remotely as much as Israel existence and capturing of that area). As far as trying to foist Jewish refugees on Israel, Britain was actually actively working to keep many of them out.
Posted by: AD at January 29, 2011 12:22 PM (9r1ux)
Posted by: model_1066 at January 29, 2011 12:22 PM (C8H3M)
Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 12:22 PM (n0WLs)
And I'm definitely into men, so no wiseass Lt. Uhura suggestions from the peanut gallery.
What's a girl to do?
Posted by: Yeoman Janice Rand at January 29, 2011 03:53 PMI don't imagine that a noncom valet/secretary makes much on that flying institution, would you be interested in extra earnings my dear?
Posted by: Harcourt Fenton Mudd at January 29, 2011 12:23 PM (vdfwz)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 12:24 PM (alr7n)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 04:21 PM
They beat up a BBC reporter too. Kind of the same feeling I get watching the Eagles play the Cowboys
Posted by: kbdabear at January 29, 2011 12:24 PM (vdfwz)
There'd be so many resignations in the officer ranks and disobeyed orders as to effectively shut down the military.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 29, 2011 04:18 PM (A/oSU)
Yeah, even more Legaly weird... My Lai massacre trials and verdict came AFTER Kent State.
In Kent State, the Guardsmen were given a pass by a civilian judge because they were acting in "self defense".
My Lai... it was decided that a Soldier has a duty NOT to obey illegal orders.
If the Kent State Guardsmen had gone to Trial in Military Court, AFTER My Lai? They'd still be in Jail.
And everyone in the military who has a brain, knows it.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 12:25 PM (AdK6a)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 12:25 PM (AZGON)
Stop the presses this just in. OBAMA SUCKS RINO NUTS!! That is all carry on.....
Posted by: Krazy Kat at January 29, 2011 12:25 PM (oNphh)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 12:26 PM (SJ6/3)
Come on, fuckin' deal!
Posted by: Joe Rain Man Biden at January 29, 2011 12:27 PM (vdfwz)
Obama claims his administration has been secretly working to encourage the protestors.
Doesn't that mean it's his fault the museum was trashed?
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 29, 2011 12:28 PM (60gUO)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 29, 2011 12:28 PM (GjNcS)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 04:25 PM (AZGON)
Yep, theres video out there of Army APCs getting between the crowd, and armed Policemen... and then soldiers shooing the crowd back so the Police would have no targets to shoot at.
Also video in a square, of a Platton + of tanks... just sitting threre, allowing the crowd to climb up on them to get pictures taken...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 12:30 PM (AdK6a)
I don't know bebe. If Genghis isn't doing it, prolly CDRM.
Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 12:30 PM (PSKdh)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 12:30 PM (AZGON)
Obama rhetoric from the Cairo speech:
"On science and technology, we will launch a new fund to support technological development in Muslim-majority countries, and to help transfer ideas to the marketplace so they can create jobs."
So Gibby, just how many jobs did Obama create in Muslim countries?
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 12:31 PM (ZHsNw)
It's been said on Twitter a # of times and that video of the 3 tanks seemingly protecting the protesters from the police has been making the rounds as well. However, it does sound that whatever good will they seemingly had is now fizzling due to the fact that they are largely absent.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 12:31 PM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 12:33 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Ombudsman at January 29, 2011 12:33 PM (c1oyg)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 04:30 PM (AZGON)
Bah....
Sarah Palin once watched the movie "The Mummy" (with Brenden Fraier)
One scene of that Movie shows the Museum getting trashed (at least the Library).
Thus, its all Sarah's fault because she saw that movie, from home (on DVD)
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 12:34 PM (AdK6a)
From what a reporter said earlier, it seemed the heaviest military presence was in Suez. Otherwise, people seem to be wondering where the military is.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 12:36 PM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 04:30 PM (AZGON)
Watch it...my lawyers are on speed-dial
Posted by: Kevin Bacon at January 29, 2011 12:36 PM (c1oyg)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 04:33 PM (AZGON)
Have not seen anything but APCs and Armor either... no video of Infantry units that I've found...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 12:36 PM (AdK6a)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 12:38 PM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 12:40 PM (sYrWB)
bebe, it's xgenghisx at gmail. He's posted it before after ONTs, so I'm not worried about putting it here. CDRM, OTOH, I better not. Don't have permission.
It might be one of several others, btw. You might ask genghis.
Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 12:40 PM (PSKdh)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 04:38 PM (sZ+lP)
FIFY
Posted by: Ombudsman at January 29, 2011 12:40 PM (c1oyg)
Also video in a square, of a Platton + of tanks... just sitting threre, allowing the crowd to climb up on them to get pictures taken...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 04:30 PMRomeo, you magnificent bastard!
Posted by: Gen George S Platton at January 29, 2011 12:41 PM (vdfwz)
Posted by: Wikileaks at January 29, 2011 12:42 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 12:43 PM (alr7n)
Also video in a square, of a Platton + of tanks... just sitting threre, allowing the crowd to climb up on them to get pictures taken...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 04:30 PMRomeo, you magnificent bastard!
Posted by: Gen George S Platton at January 29, 2011 04:41 PM (vdfwz)
Und do you zink there may be a hidden meaning zere? some.... zlip perhaps
Posted by: Siggy Freud at January 29, 2011 12:44 PM (AdK6a)
Command fuckstick's pat down comment during the sotu hasn't gone unnoticed.
Posted by: sTevo at January 29, 2011 12:44 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 12:44 PM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 04:44 PM (sZ+lP)
They had him on yesterday too.
Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 12:45 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 12:48 PM (AZGON)
Now the big question...
With the Army sitting there, but not really doing anything as the sitting Government is taken down...
French Revolution? Is there soon to be a "whiff of grapeshot" moment if the crowd goes too far? Is there an Egyptian General with the idea of becoming the Government by restoring order?
Everything old, is now again.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 12:48 PM (AdK6a)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 12:50 PM (sZ+lP)
God bless Seattle returning him to the Congress with 83% of the vote in 2010.
Wa State is so screwed. The rest of the state isn't horrible, but we can't overcome 83% of the Seattle vote.
Posted by: some wench at January 29, 2011 12:51 PM (bqjJT)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 12:51 PM (SJ6/3)
And I'm definitely into men, so no wiseass Lt. Uhura suggestions from the peanut gallery.
What's a girl to do?
Posted by: Yeoman Janice Rand at January 29, 2011 03:53 PMTry my new fragrance dear, because every woman wants to smell like she passed out and got splattered by an army of drunken Starfleet cadets
Posted by: Lady Gaga at January 29, 2011 12:51 PM (vdfwz)
Command fuckstick's pat down comment during the sotu hasn't gone unnoticed.
If Obama wanted put an end to that shit, he could get done by dinner tonight.
Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 12:52 PM (PSKdh)
Posted by: Gen George S Platton at January 29, 2011 04:41 PM (vdfwz)
My favorite Patton picture - Patton pissing in the Rhine
http://tinyurl.com/4g36d9t
Posted by: Ombudsman at January 29, 2011 12:53 PM (c1oyg)
This woman is also a moron. She's upset she didn't have her holiday? You should be glad you didn't get shot.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 12:53 PM (sZ+lP)
Don't like the map of the Middle East?
Blame it on Peter O'Toole. (BTW -- the sick fuck actually enjoyed having his prostate massaged.)
And how is this gonna mess with my waffles? I always eat 'em with plenty of Cairo syrup.
Posted by: Ed Anger at January 29, 2011 12:54 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2011 12:55 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 29, 2011 12:55 PM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 12:58 PM (sYrWB)
actually, in this particular instance, given the presence of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, it's probably a wise thing to refrain from endorsing the protesters en masse - we want a democratic and free Egypt, not a jihadist theocracy run by Muslim Brotherhood mullahs
Posted by: chemjeff at January 29, 2011 12:59 PM (pqsMB)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 04:58 PM (sYrWB)
There have been reports of the Police confiscating Western News Reporters equipment...
Remember, its not like they have freedom of the Press over there...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 01:03 PM (AdK6a)
The Baghdad museum was not looted of its artifacts by mobs during the US invasion. It was looted by Saddam's cronies over years and sold on the black market to enrich themselves. By the time of the invasion, there was little left to loot. The crooked museum director who was coerced and rewarded into going along with the scheme blamed it on America and the liberal media lapped it up like free whiskey.
Google "The Thieves of Baghdad" by Lauren Sandler in the November 2004 issue of The Atlantic, which disputes the anti-American narrative of the liberal media.
Posted by: Tantor at January 29, 2011 01:04 PM (SfZFw)
Remember, its not like they have freedom of the Press over there...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 05:03 PMYes, not like we have it here, as long as you don't say anything racist that incites violence.
Posted by: The MFM at January 29, 2011 01:05 PM (vdfwz)
Blame it on Peter O'Toole. (BTW -- the sick fuck actually enjoyed having his prostate massaged.)...
Churchill actually should receive a great deal of blame for his involvement in redrawing the boundaries after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. He was also (sadly) the one responsible for asking for T.E. Lawrence's assistance, though Lawrence didn't solely determine the boundaries by his lonesome. The French and Russians also gave their input through Sykes-Picot.
Also chuckled a bit about the reference to the film (though I know you're referring to Lawrence) since the it's actually somewhat more anti than pro-Lawrence. A man who really didn't know who he was trying to establish the identities of entire nations. By the end of the film, he's only a shadow.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 01:06 PM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: Obama at January 29, 2011 01:06 PM (PSKdh)
Remember, its not like they have freedom of the Press over there...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 05:03 PMYou say that like it's a BAD thing
Posted by: Thomas Friedman at January 29, 2011 01:06 PM (vdfwz)
Posted by: Obama at January 29, 2011 01:06 PM (PSKdh)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 01:07 PM (sYrWB)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 01:07 PM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: JEA at January 29, 2011 01:08 PM (s/vI4)
Some other customer in the store looks at me and just shakes his head. The manager comes out (of the same persuasion) and tells the idiot, "Clear that out...it's $3.00 plus tax...$3.24." (I resisted the urge to point out not only was he wrong on the price but that when he rang it up at the .59 cent price, he forgot to charge me tax.)
This guy was so mad that a woman dared question him....and he was wrong. I was a little afraid to turn my back to him to leave the store.
Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 01:10 PM (VuLos)
actually, in this particular instance, given the presence of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, it's probably a wise thing to refrain from endorsing the protesters en masse - we want a democratic and free Egypt, not a jihadist theocracy run by Muslim Brotherhood mullahs
Posted by: chemjeff at January 29, 2011 04:59 PM (pqsMB)
I think on Rush yesterday this was pointed out. That the Muslim Brotherhood did not start these protests but they have definitely latched on and are likely licking their chops at coming out as the ones on top and in control. And that's essentially the same method that got the theocracy in Iran. The mullahs didn't start the protests, but they latched on and took charge. So its a difficult situation. Support the thug that sort of likes us (mostly because of the "aid" we send them), or support the protestors and risk another Islamic theocracy.
Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 01:12 PM (oVQFe)
A majority of them were likely more interesting in protecting the antiquities so they could sell them on the black market. As for feeling pride, those are objects of pre-Islamic history and of a people quite different from themselves. Many could likely could care less.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 01:12 PM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2011 01:12 PM (TMB3S)
Your call is important to us.
If you are calling for the Muslim Brotherhood, please press 1 now.
If you are calling for Al Qaeda, please press 2 now.
For all other inquiries press 0.
Please leave your message at the "Ulululululululu"
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at January 29, 2011 01:13 PM (S2GiP)
in fairness, you don't really know if his assholish behavior was because of some cultural condescension towards women, or if he's just an asshole - there's plenty of idiot redneck teenager cashiers who would do the same thing
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 01:13 PM (pqsMB)
Posted by: JEA at January 29, 2011 05:08 PM (s/vI4)
I think you mean the history they stole.
Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 01:15 PM (oVQFe)
"...Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered his government to remain silent about the situation in Egypt. But in a clear reflection of Israel's concerns, Sun D'Or, a subsidiary of Israel's national airline, El Al, whisked dozens of Israelis, including diplomats' families, out of Egypt on an emergency flight. The government also urged Israelis to avoid travel to Egypt."
http://tinyurl.com/4dqwlsk
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 01:17 PM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 05:13 PM (pqsMB)
You're right, I can see some idiot teenage doing the
same thing but you didn't see the way this guy looked at me. He hated that I was questioning him.
Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 01:18 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 05:17 PM (sZ+lP)
Now if only the Obama Admin had been this smart... because ANYTHING we say about the situation now in Egypt, will be used against us.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 01:20 PM (AdK6a)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 01:22 PM (tJjm/)
You're right, I can see some idiot teenage doing the same thing but you didn't see the way this guy looked at me. He hated that I was questioning him.
Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 05:18 PM (VuLos)
HUh... Huh.... shudup and put yer Veil back on Woman, and bring me a Beer...
Posted by: Bubba Jay Mohamed, Confused Reneck Moslem at January 29, 2011 01:22 PM (AdK6a)
Posted by: Have Blue at January 29, 2011 01:23 PM (mV+es)
They just had an MB apologist on Fox News. They gave him plenty of time to spew his lies that MB renounced Al-Qaeda and is now primarily an opposition party providing basic humanitarian needs.
Earlier this morning they let asshole Eliot Abrams (Clinton State Dept. asshole) pontificate that the revolution was all about providing a "more moderate" government.
You might as well watch CNN.
Posted by: Ed Anger at January 29, 2011 01:25 PM (7+pP9)
Nah, I'd much rather give attention to his daughter, Plenty O'Toole. pic
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 29, 2011 01:25 PM (XBM1t)
Posted by: JEA at January 29, 2011 05:08 PM (s/vI4)
I think you mean the history they stole.
Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 05:15 PM (oVQFe)
Hello, I'm from NASA, and I'm here to help.
Posted by: zombie Reagan at January 29, 2011 01:27 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 01:27 PM (sZ+lP)
I hate them all.
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 01:31 PM (pqsMB)
http://tinyurl.com/4htc5pk
Also, reportedly 19 businessmen leave Cairo for Dubai.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 01:33 PM (sZ+lP)
I hate them all.
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 05:31 PM (pqsMB)
Well.... yuh see if'n this was a Muslim Bank... there would be no interest, wouldn't have ta worry bout it...
That or just spend it on moonshine...
Posted by: Bubba Jay Mohamed, Confused Redneck Moslem at January 29, 2011 01:34 PM (AdK6a)
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 01:35 PM (pqsMB)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 01:36 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 01:36 PM (pqsMB)
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 01:37 PM (0Hp4r)
I love how leftists always dismiss the ideas about democracy and freedom until they refer to communist and/or religious extremist regimes.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 01:38 PM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 01:38 PM (SJ6/3)
If McDermott supports the protesters, I have to assume they are not what we want.
This. Come on, look at who is supporting the protesters and then try and argue that we should be on their side. Plus, a lot of the protesters are young adults. Maybe they make them smarter in the Middle East or something, but here I really wouldnÂ’t want to be on the side of most of our young adults in a mass protest against the government. I mean look what the hell all their damn activism here ushered into office for us.
(apologies to the really cool young adults here at Ace who I definitely would follow into battle, but you guys know in a lot of cases you are absolutely the exception not the norm for 20 somethings these days.)
Posted by: ParanoidGrillInSeattle at January 29, 2011 01:39 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 01:39 PM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 01:39 PM (0Hp4r)
Posted by: JEA at January 29, 2011 01:39 PM (s/vI4)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 01:39 PM (sYrWB)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 05:36 PM (tJjm/)
Hmmm... lets see.... would I want my son to go fight, to save the remains of a 3000 year old dead foreign guy...
and oh.... spark another Jihad against America while doing it as we would be invading ANOTHER sovereign nation...
Uh..... no....
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 01:41 PM (AdK6a)
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 01:41 PM (pqsMB)
Posted by: MrScribbler© at January 29, 2011 01:42 PM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 01:42 PM (pqsMB)
I had 4 credit cards with them by accident. 1 was a Washington Mutual Account that was changed to Chase. One was a business account. One was one I got by accident from Coldwater Creek when I applied for it and thought that it was a store card. And one was the account I originally had with my local bank which was bought out by Chase.
So, Chase sends me a note that I have too much credit open and they are going to close the former Washington Mutual account. Fine with me, so I paid it off and closed it.
Then I applied for a British Air account to get free miles and got a card with 5 times the credit limit that was on the card they cancelled!
They have no idea what they are doing. I wouldn't put any money into their bank. They would probably lose it.
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 01:42 PM (Fo83G)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2011 01:42 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 05:39 PM (sZ+lP)
Ewwww Goody! Another Fact Finding Commision to study what we already have people studying?
Its amazing how we have all these commisions and sudies... when there are poeple TASKED to be experts in those subjects already...
And 6 months from now? A reccomendation that Obama will not completly aggree with...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 01:43 PM (AdK6a)
In all seriousness - what was the ancient Egyptians' contribution to Western civilization?
The way they walk...ooooooaaaaaaoooooo
Posted by: robtr at January 29, 2011 01:44 PM (hVDig)
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 01:44 PM (pqsMB)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 01:44 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 01:45 PM (0Hp4r)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 05:39 PM (sYrWB)
My understanding is that the current Egyptians are not genetically similar to those in Egypt at the time of the Pharohs. I assume that is what is being refered to.
Posted by: Polliwog at January 29, 2011 01:45 PM (kwKNJ)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 05:44 PM (tJjm/)
uhmm, it's on the interwebs
Posted by: robtr at January 29, 2011 01:46 PM (hVDig)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 01:48 PM (SJ6/3)
Well, they helped early Western civilization with: an alphabet; a calender; systems of reading, writing, and arithmetic; farming systems; medicine (particularly specialists); architecture; funeral practices; altering the wheel; and government. Some of these they borrowed from other civilizations, and others were borrowed and adapted by other peoples.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 01:48 PM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 01:49 PM (pqsMB)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 05:44 PM (tJjm/)
Have they? Yes.... should they? May want to ask the ones on the front lines... or their parents.
Sooo.... will the "history of man" cease to exist if we don't send in troops, to invade another MOSLEM country?
Or will there be a few museum artifacts destroyed... and the history of Man, which is NOT just in Egypt, continue.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 01:50 PM (AdK6a)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 05:39 PM (sYrWB)
My understanding is that the current Egyptians are not genetically similar to those in Egypt at the time of the Pharohs. I assume that is what is being refered to.
Posted by: Polliwog at January 29, 2011 05:45 PM (kwKNJ)
The current "Egyptians" are primarily Arab Muslims who conquered Egypt and took it over. The actual Egyptian descendants were Christian converts. In other words the ones who are the actual descendants to the people of the Pharoahs are the Coptic Christians in Egypt.
Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 01:50 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 01:50 PM (sYrWB)
1. There is a National Guard company stationed on the border of Egypt and Gaza.
1.a Guard company has no communications with US.
2. Egyptian army has left the same border area.
3. Hamas people are streaming across the border into Egypt.
The above 3 things together are NOT GOOD.
In addition:
4. Code Pink and Ayers were in Cairo last year doing something (probably meeting with the Muslim Brotherhood).
5. PJ Crowley of the State Department has been saying that the switcheroo in Egyptian government is not good enough and Mubarik must do more.
6. In 2009 Obama cut the democracy project funding to Egypt in half.
7. A couple of weeks ago Obama removed a Muslim Brotherhood guy from the terror watch list with great fanfare.
If you ask me, someone ought to be doing investigations on whether Obama himself is trying to destabilize Egypt. If you overthrow Mubarak and the Muslim Brotherhood gains control, we lose access to the Suez Canal. Oil prices go through the roof.
Who would benefit from this? George Soros and others who bet on the dollar collapsing.
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 01:51 PM (Fo83G)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 01:52 PM (sZ+lP)
No joy on the dog beds at Cabela's... not enough selection. So I guess we'll hit the internet. We did get her a flying squirrel to replace the one she lost and a nice lunch for us at Texas Roadhouse.
Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 01:52 PM (pW2o8)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 01:53 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 01:53 PM (0Hp4r)
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 05:51 PM (Fo83G)
Didn't Soros just put a whole bunch of money into South American oil as well? ie, oil supplies NOT affected by Mid East turmoil?
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 01:54 PM (AdK6a)
Well from a moron's perspective - beer?
Posted by: some wench at January 29, 2011 01:54 PM (bqjJT)
1.a Guard company has no communications with US.
Wait...what?! OUR National Guard?! Am I the only person that didn't know this?
Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 01:55 PM (VuLos)
Yes, That is where his oil dollars are invested. Petrobras
Posted by: Beto at January 29, 2011 01:56 PM (j5CHE)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 01:56 PM (SJ6/3)
Thanks Miss80sBaby for articulating the contributions clearly.
IÂ’m intrigued by what seems to be a new line of thought here, that because the artifacts are old itÂ’s OK if they get destroyed? Maybe IÂ’m reading some of the comments wrong.
Posted by: ParanoidGrillInSeattle at January 29, 2011 01:57 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: some wench at January 29, 2011 05:54 PM (bqjJT)
Thought that was Babylonian...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 01:57 PM (AdK6a)
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 01:57 PM (0Hp4r)
Well my Dear, I know some really nice Miners...
Posted by: Harry Mudd at January 29, 2011 03:59 PM (AdK6a)
I don't imagine that a noncom valet/secretary makes much on that flying institution, would you be interested in extra earnings my dear?
Posted by: Harcourt Fenton Mudd at January 29, 2011 04:23 PM (vdfwz)
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Posted by: Apollo at January 29, 2011 04:20 PM (vdfwz)
Try my new fragrance dear, because every woman wants to smell like she passed out and got splattered by an army of drunken Starfleet cadets
Posted by: Lady Gaga at January 29, 2011 04:51 PM (vdfwz)
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Back to my Kegel excercises. Jim said even that green belly dancer slut had nothing on me.
Posted by: Yeoman Janice Rand at January 29, 2011 01:57 PM (XBM1t)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 01:58 PM (SJ6/3)
The Coptic Christians date back to ancient times. The rest of the old population was Arabized culturally and linguistically, and I'm sure there was a considerable infusion of Arab blood, as well.
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 05:53 PM (tJjm/)
Here's a nice source on some ancient origins of some groups. They address the myth of a palestinian people and others. The link "Origin and Identity of the Arabs" addresses Egypt and the Copts.
2) Egypt:
The ancient Egyptians were a Hamitic people and even though they have been in some way involved with the origin of the Ishmaelite Arabs, they remained a distinguishable people that has not been assimilated by the Arab invaders. The Egyptians became Christians in the first centuries c.e., and their genuine descendants are the Copts, who are not Arabs. Even though at present they are a minority in their own homeland, the Arab majority is anyway the result of a foreign invasion performed in the Middle Ages, when the Arabs made of Egypt the outpost for the conquest of Africa.
Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 01:58 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2011 01:58 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 01:58 PM (0Hp4r)
IÂ’m intrigued by what seems to be a new line of thought here, that because the artifacts are old itÂ’s OK if they get destroyed? Maybe IÂ’m reading some of the comments wrong.
Posted by: ParanoidGrillInSeattle at January 29, 2011 05:57 PM (RZ8pf)
No, the qeustion is do you invade another country to protect ITS artifacts...
ie, are Egyptian "treasures" worth going to war over.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 01:59 PM (AdK6a)
nobody wants the Egyptian museum to be looted, but for heaven's sake, they are OBJECTS, not living human beings
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 01:59 PM (pqsMB)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 02:00 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 05:41 PM (pqsMB)
You're correct in your doubts. Egypt was an extremely insular empire that had little effect on the greater world and had nothing to do with the development of Western civilization. There was trade and the like, but Egypt never ventured out to bring their civilization or advancements to much of the world. Egypt was very important to Western civilization, much later, in its wheat fields, but that was about it.
Some like to claim, these days, that Jewish monotheism was the product of the banned Pharoah, but that is modern Western guilt-driven "noble savage" speculation at its best, and the only way one could really connect Egypt to the development of the West, in terms of content.
Egypt's place in history was in being the first major empire, and a very long lasting and impressive one, at that, but it had almost nothing to do with Western civilization. The Carthaginians had more of an effect on the development of Western civilization. Speaking of which, has Tunisia burnt to a crisp, yet?
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 02:01 PM (N49h9)
After the Roman conquest, Christians were the majority religion until an Arab-Muslim invasion in the 640s. That's another thing that the Egyptians* helped contribute to, is the spread of Christianity throughout that part of the world, their participation in early Church councils, and their concentration on learning.
*Though obviously not the ancients.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 02:02 PM (sZ+lP)
Egypt's place in history was in being the first major empire, and a very long lasting and impressive one, at that,
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 06:01 PM (N49h9)
Bah... barbarian wanna be's...
Posted by: Kull, of at January 29, 2011 02:03 PM (AdK6a)
Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 02:06 PM (n0WLs)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 02:08 PM (tJjm/)
I'm standing here to defend and to protect our national treasure," said one of the men, Farid Saad, a 40-year-old engineer.
Those aren't just national treaasures, they're treasure for all of humanity. Power to the defenders.
Posted by: Max Entropy at January 29, 2011 02:09 PM (GkYyh)
Well very far upthread it seemed like some people were wondering why it was that the Egyptian military was protecting the museum. I think they should be doing that.
I think we should be questioning why it is that these “pro democracy” protesters would want to trash the museum in the first place. Because it is a government building?
I mean really, if you were protesting the government in DC would your first impulse be to trash the Smithsonian?
Posted by: ParanoidGrillInSeattle at January 29, 2011 02:10 PM (RZ8pf)
nobody wants the Egyptian museum to be looted, but for heaven's sake, they are OBJECTS, not living human beings
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 05:59 PM (pqsMB)
Then, if one were to follow your rationale and Dagny's rationale, Israelis might as well turn over the Western Wall in Jerusalem to the Palestinians to save bloodshed, since the Palestinian's claim ownership to that pile of rocks, too.
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 02:12 PM (sYrWB)
Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 06:06 PM (n0WLs)
Yeah yeah.... we know...
Posted by: Mayans at January 29, 2011 02:12 PM (AdK6a)
It is not like they are going to grind them into powder. They will sell them to some subset of all mankind. So, not a big deal. But if you feel they must be secured, head on over.
Posted by: s☺mej☼e at January 29, 2011 02:13 PM (pNQJY)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2011 02:13 PM (TMB3S)
@148: "It's just that I think that something is a little wrong when we are more worried about a couple of destroyed mummies than we are about the filth and stench that many Egyptians live in each and every day with no hope of escaping."
I had a way that that poor Arabs could escape their miserable lives, but noooooooooooooo...you bastards hanged me for it.
Posted by: Chemical Ali at January 29, 2011 02:15 PM (S2GiP)
Not the same thing.
The Western Wall is, as I understand it, one of Judaism's holiest sites. But go ahead and call it a pile of rocks, asshat.
The contents of the Egyptian museum(s) represents amazing human achievements... connected to a religion long-since abandoned.
Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 02:16 PM (pW2o8)
Those aren't just national treaasures, they're treasure for all of humanity. Power to the defenders.
Posted by: Max Entropy at January 29, 2011 06:09 PM (GkYyh)
Cool, when do I get my cut then? OH.... I don't?
Tell me, would YOU be willing to go fight, and maybe die, to protect these artifacts? Would you be willing to send your Son to do so?
Because, as one who HAS been to war... and has a Son in the Service, I am not.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 02:16 PM (AdK6a)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 06:08 PM (tJjm/)
But it is the recording, imaging and cataloguing of the objects and their contexts that is most important - understanding them and history through them - not the physical pieces, themselves. It is important to know history, not to have the physical pieces of it sitting around forever.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 02:16 PM (N49h9)
I think we should be questioning why it is that these “pro democracy” protesters would want to trash the museum in the first place. Because it is a government building?
I mean really, if you were protesting the government in DC would your first impulse be to trash the Smithsonian?
I think the Army is protecting the buildings and pyramids more due to their significance to the economy (tourism) than because they mean something personal to them. After all, the people who built those pyramids and crafted these antiquities were a lesser (non-Islamic) people who they conquered. But their military should definitely be protecting the museum, pyramids, etc. nonetheless.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 02:17 PM (sZ+lP)
The studies i have heard about show that genetics of a region are very little changed by conquerers and such. Other than migrations, the people in a region are the same ones that were there millenia ago.
Posted by: nine coconuts at January 29, 2011 02:17 PM (DHNp4)
If bandits stormed the Metropolitan, would you object to a cop risking his life in a shootout with them?
Meh. Maybe, maybe not. I'd rather see them apprehended through overwhelming force and technology.
Are the "objects" in a bank vault or the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York worth the life of a marine?
No. And definately not those in Egypt. They want them because they consider them theirs. If they lose them they are either gone or will resurface on the black market. I'd take the black market chance before sending our people in to hope that they can defeat thousands of angry muslims bent on stealing and destroying.
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 02:19 PM (0Hp4r)
Coincidence, of course.
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 02:19 PM (Fo83G)
Because, as one who HAS been to war... and has a Son in the Service, I am not.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 06:16 PM (AdK6a)
I've never been to war but I'm with you on the second part. No.friggin.way.
Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 02:20 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 02:21 PM (Fo83G)
"asshat", huh? Do you really want to get me started, y-not?
BTW, there isn't any difference, you jackass. It just depends on whose ox is being gored.
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 02:22 PM (sYrWB)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 02:22 PM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 02:23 PM (0Hp4r)
There may be some parallel lessons there.
Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 02:24 PM (pW2o8)
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 06:21 PM (Fo83G)
I'm speechless....
Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 02:24 PM (VuLos)
And what in holy fuck are our national guardsmen doing in Gaza? Silly me, I always thought that by "national" they meant OUR nation.
Posted by: Peaches at January 29, 2011 02:25 PM (zxpIo)
I am less familiar with egypt, but in morocco the military all look like saddam hussein and the public mostly look berber or moroccan or whatever.
But either way, my people were not around when Washington crossed the Delaware or Lincoln freed the slaves, but I am fucking proud of that and consider it my heritage. I am sure their military feel the same pride in the history of the land they are supposed to defend, and they should. and there is a lot there to be proud of.
Egypt, like Persia, is a once great civilization destroyed by the barbaric arab hordes and their twisted religion.
Posted by: nine coconuts at January 29, 2011 02:25 PM (DHNp4)
Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 06:16 PM (pW2o
The Western Wall is not holy in Judaism. It is nothing but a retaining wall. It is the Temple Mount that houses one of the only "holy" sites in Judaism - the Holy of Holies in the Temple. The Western Wall is merely all that is left of the Temple above ground.
Jews have already given control of Judaism's only known holy site to muslims (the Holy of Holies, which is why Cohanim were never allowed to visit the Dome of the Rock and the Temple Mount, in case they walk on the area of the Holy of Holies by mistake) which is what they built the Al Aqsa mosque on top of. BTW, muslims claim that the Temple was never there and that Jews are all liars. The Waqf has been intentionally destroying as much of the Temple Mount as they can get away wihth - which is A LOT! They took to the Temple Mount with bulldozers and routinely throw out any artifacts they run across, lest Jews have stronger claims to it.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 02:25 PM (N49h9)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 02:27 PM (alr7n)
Posted by: Beto at January 29, 2011 05:56 PM
IIRC, one of the Traitor-in-Chief's early -- and underreported -- acts was to send a whole shitload of our money to Petrobras. Some "green energy" bullshit, I think.
I, too, am suspicious that the Mohammedan Mouthpiece (ours, that is) may have more to do with what's going on in Egypt than we know. And if he is, it's another addition to the list of "high crimes and misdemeanors" that should have him out of office and looking at some hard orange-jumpsuit time.
Posted by: MrScribbler© at January 29, 2011 02:27 PM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: Typical USA Undergraduate at January 29, 2011 02:27 PM (n0WLs)
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) — Illinois National Guard officials say the 440 Illinois soldiers on a yearlong peace-keeping mission in Egypt have not been seriously affected by the rioting in Cairo and other major Egyptian cities.
The Illinois troops aren't able to use commercial communication methods, which the Egyptian government has shut down, but Guard officials in Springfield say they have been in contact with the soldiers.
Guard officials tell the (Springfield) State Journal-Register that the Illinois troops, who are stationed in the Sinai Peninsula near the Egyptian-Israeli border, have not been targeted during the riots and are hundreds of miles from the unrest.
The Illinois Guard's 2nd Battalion, 123rd Field Artillery Regiment deployed to Egypt in May. About 20 members of the Springfield-based 233rd Military Police Company are also deployed there.
Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 02:28 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: MrScribbler© at January 29, 2011 06:27 PM (Ulu3i)
It was worse than that. Hussein was stopping our offshore drilling while, at the same time, giving a $10 billion loan (or guarantee) to Petrobras to develop offshore fields in far deeper water and more hazardous conditions.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 02:31 PM (N49h9)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 02:31 PM (alr7n)
Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 02:32 PM (n0WLs)
Neither were mine and so am I, but here's the difference-- the ancestors of the people who crafted such things are people they slaughtered in the name of religion and continue to oppress. They haven't shown much to demonstrate they accept the Copts, so why would they feel the same about their artifacts?
*Which they aren't even strictly theirs.
Egypt, like Persia, is a once great civilization destroyed by the barbaric arab hordes and their twisted religion.
Agreed.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 02:32 PM (sZ+lP)
I reiterate, y-not, you're a very ignorant woman. You don't know squat about anything.
Anyone as dense, shallow, ditzy and clueless as you are shouldn't be so opinionated.
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 02:34 PM (sYrWB)
Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 02:34 PM (n0WLs)
Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 06:28 PM (VuLos)
Soooo... we got a Field Artillery Regiment sitting on the border between Egypt, Israel, and teh Gaza Strip???
Wow... how dumb is that...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 02:34 PM (AdK6a)
Al Jazeera posted a map which showed violence at both ends of the Suez Canal.
And I do not understand why I am able to give more pertinent information that out national media, and I am a housewife sitting at a computer in central Indiana!!
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 02:34 PM (Fo83G)
Posted by: Have Blue at January 29, 2011 02:34 PM (mV+es)
Please stick to the subject or find somewhere else to go.
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 02:35 PM (Fo83G)
Posted by: Have Blue at January 29, 2011 02:36 PM (mV+es)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 06:34 PM (sYrWB)
Points and laughs, hard, for a long time, at the troll.
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 29, 2011 02:36 PM (XBM1t)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 02:37 PM (alr7n)
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 06:34 PM (Fo83G)
Because you are actualy out looking for information? Instead of waiting for your copy of the Lefty/Administration talking points memo?
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 02:37 PM (AdK6a)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 02:42 PM (sYrWB)
Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 06:34 PM (n0WLs)
Not really. It was an offshoot of the muslim brotherhood, Egyptian Islamic Jihad (Al-Zawahiri), that did the deed.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 02:42 PM (N49h9)
Miss Marple - Brian is a froll who enoys making trouble and trying to provoke commenters into attacking her. Several days ago he posted a totally OT observation about a US Navy sailor lost at sea after going overboard accidentally, speculating (with zero evidence or reason) that they were homosexual. All for no other reason that to start trouble.
Brian, you never have answered, "How's the bean?"
Posted by: Have Blue at January 29, 2011 02:43 PM (mV+es)
Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 02:44 PM (n0WLs)
In all seriousness - what was the ancient Egyptians' contribution to Western civilization? [...]
They gave us the question mark. It's the view of the ass end of a cat.
?
Get it?
Posted by: Ed Anger at January 29, 2011 02:44 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 02:45 PM (n0WLs)
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 06:34 PM (Fo83G)
Yes, but you tell me which Intercontinental makes the best martinis?
Posted by: nine coconuts at January 29, 2011 02:45 PM (DHNp4)
Well, he will be in the ignore spot now and I will go on with commenting on the topic at hand.
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 02:45 PM (Fo83G)
No martinis this evening, though. I am working and posting news in between.
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 02:47 PM (Fo83G)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 02:49 PM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 02:51 PM (sYrWB)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 06:49 PM (sZ+lP)
Never in my life would I have believed I'd be watching Al Jazeera online for two days.
Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 02:51 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 05:59 PM (pqsMB)
So I've got this fertilizer plant with all sorts of acid tanks.
What's the best plan?
Posted by: Trashcan Man at January 29, 2011 02:52 PM (7+pP9)
Same here. Makes me feel like I need to shower again afterward, too.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 02:53 PM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 06:34 PM (sYrWB)
You are not going to be happy until someone rapes you, are you?
Like mother, like son.
Posted by: Pat Fucking Caddell at January 29, 2011 02:55 PM (P3DxV)
Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 02:58 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 02:59 PM (sYrWB)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 03:01 PM (sYrWB)
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 03:02 PM (pqsMB)
I don't think Brian is a real troll. Just a person who started sock puppeting a troll back before the election and apparently decided she liked the negative attention/chaos causing.
Brian - I'm actually serious asking about the bean.
Posted by: Have Blue at January 29, 2011 03:03 PM (mV+es)
Brian, why do you come to a place where you're clearly not wanted?
It's a slow day at the glory hole.
Posted by: Ronster at January 29, 2011 03:04 PM (1F/m8)
You know BriBri, you're doing a bangup job for someone who's typing on a spooge-encrusted keyboard.
Keep up the good work Tiger.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 29, 2011 03:05 PM (A/oSU)
Bringing my mom into it, eh Garret? You're slimy, guy, you're really slimy.
Look, it's not my fault she's a whore. It's best to just learn to deal with it.
Think of it this way: She's been looted.
Why bother trying to protect the burned out shell of the remains?
Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 03:05 PM (P3DxV)
It's a slow day at the glory hole.
Posted by: Ronster at January 29, 2011 07:04 PM (1F/m
Trust him. Ron would know.
Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 03:07 PM (P3DxV)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 03:08 PM (sYrWB)
Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 07:07 PM (P3DxV)
Oh look who finally sobered up and crawled out of his puddle of vomit to give us all some wisdom.
Posted by: Ronster at January 29, 2011 03:10 PM (1F/m8)
Posted by: Peaches at January 29, 2011 03:12 PM (zxpIo)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 07:01 PM (sYrWB)
Sure thing. Its just a mystery that you stopped posting from around august to the end of December after you pissed off ace enough that he went off on you.
Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 03:19 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 03:19 PM (tJjm/)
I'm all civility these days, Brian. I'm just trying to help you identify the source of your need for abuse. What other explanation is there as to why you post here.
It can't merely be that you are dumb enough to think that your argumernts are worth sharing with others. Then again, if you are dumb as I suspect, this wouldn't occur to you.
Equating the Western Wall to the treasures uncovered by Howard Carter in Tut's Tomb?
I don't even know where to begin accessing your stupid in order to best explain the layers of idiocy contained herein...It's like a giant onion of dumb.
Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 03:21 PM (P3DxV)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 07:19 PM (tJjm/)
There's some interesting stuff, archaelogically speaking, going on under the Western Wall (Israeli land).
Of course, the pali muzzies are besides themselves trying to keep the evil Juice from doing any archaelogical surveys. I was reading some stuff a few nights ago on it...I'll see if I can find it to post a link for you.
Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 03:25 PM (P3DxV)
I don't even know where to begin accessing your stupid in order to best explain the layers of idiocy contained herein...It's like a giant onion of dumb.
Garrett,
If you don't mind I'm going to take that to work Monday and see if that gets me the rest of the week off.
Thanks in advance
Posted by: Shannow at January 29, 2011 03:27 PM (mwH3+)
Posted by: Uncle Jed at January 29, 2011 07:26 PM (vXwmy)
No, the archie bunker troll is John Ryan.
Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 03:33 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Have Blue at January 29, 2011 03:34 PM (mV+es)
Posted by: Anachronda at January 29, 2011 03:36 PM (6fER6)
Posted by: Ronster at January 29, 2011 07:10 PM (1F/m
Didn't I tell you to leave this sort of stuff to the adults?
Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 03:37 PM (P3DxV)
Posted by: Have Blue at January 29, 2011 03:38 PM (mV+es)
"Then again, if you are dumb as I suspect, this wouldn't occur to you." - jackass
Saying it's so ain't going to make it so, and it ain't going to make you smarter, and it ain't going to make you feel any better about yourself either, you creepy, little loser.
You should see a psychiatrist about your inferiority complex. You really should.
But then, he'll just tell you that you are inferior and inadequate. So save the money.
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 03:39 PM (sYrWB)
769 JEA insisted last week that the corporations controlled Rush, Fox, Hannity, etc. They put out a message and the right repeats it. It's obvious and documented.
Anyone who says that is a liberal troll. Sorry.
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 03:39 PM (0Hp4r)
"Its just a mystery that you stopped posting from around august to the end of December after you pissed off ace enough that he went off on you." - batty dimwit
Well, I'll clear up the mystery for you, you batty dimwit. The explanation is simple:
Unlike you and these other unemployable undesireables, I have a life ..., and a job.
It ain't that complicated, fool, and as for Ace going off on me, you're delusional.
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 03:56 PM (sYrWB)
Let's see who's the liar? Well there's this:
207"We all of us sin, and we all of us have character flaws." - Ace.
Oh, I dunno, Ace, I don't think that being pretentious and too wordy are character flaws. Don't be so hard on yourself.
Posted by: Atrollpasinthru at August 21, 2010 04:22 PM (sYrWB)
And then there's Ace's Response.
212 >>>, I don't think that being pretentiouspretentious?
Really?
It's funny, I've been meaning to ban you forever but kept forgetting to. Thanks for the reminder.
(By the way, in case you're worried I'm just banning him because he insulted me: No. His monicker is quite accurate: he is a habitual troll constantly insulting everybody.)
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2010 04:25 PM (QbA6l)
Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 03:56 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Peaches at January 29, 2011 04:02 PM (zxpIo)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 04:02 PM (sYrWB)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 08:02 PM (sYrWB)
He's one of our own (meaning a conservative?) and a liberal?, masquerading as a conservative? and we don't realize he's liberal?
Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 04:07 PM (VuLos)
News Flash, dolt: At any given time, there are from 2 to 5 people using this computer.
Usually multi-tasking - not living here at AoS like you do.
I always use only my own name. Unlike you, I never hide behind sock puppets.
It's called ethics and integrity, to which you can not relate.
Dayum son, you are dumb. You post without activating your brain.
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 04:11 PM (sYrWB)
Posted by: Peaches at January 29, 2011 04:14 PM (zxpIo)
You should see a psychiatrist about your inferiority complex. You really should.
But then, he'll just tell you that you are inferior and inadequate. So save the money.
My guess is that you yourself have found psychiatry necessary. Or, perhaps you are one of those obnoxious children of one. Only thing left would be that you are a professional one, yourself.
You see. Only these three types of individuals, in my experience, would deign to diagnose another person over the net. You are an obvious troll who has mommy issues.
As to the possible complex that I may harbor, I can assure you it's ot one of inferiority or inadequecy.
Move along. Lest I expose more of your weakness.
Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 04:15 PM (P3DxV)
News Flash, dolt: At any given time, there are from 2 to 5 people using this computer.
So, it's in your mother's bedroom.
Tell one of your 'uncles' to shove a cock in your mouth. Thanks.
Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 04:18 PM (P3DxV)
Posted by: James Mulmquest at January 29, 2011 04:19 PM (zVOB7)
Ok, here's the post from JEA where he outed himself for any doubters:
71 And conservative media - Fox, Limbaugh, Hannity - isn't at all mixed together, & doesn't at all coordinate its message engineered by its masters hidden behind big corporate walls.What utter hypocrisy and stupidity.
This meme from the right is tiresome, quite tiresome after 20-plus years.
When Fox and Limbaugh get lower ratings than CNN and MSNBC, when there's no WSJ and Washington Times and National Review feel free to bitch and whine about the "liberal, conspiratorial press" then. The boy who cried wolf wasn't this bad.
Oh, I almost forgot - let the name-calling begin. I'll start things off - troll, moron, jackass, jag-off.
And BTW, I'm really getting tired of these. You could at least come up with something original.
Posted by: JEA at January 12, 2011 08:43 AM (R5LB3)
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 04:19 PM (0Hp4r)
News Flash, dolt: At any given time, there are from 2 to 5 people using this computer.
State hospital. Knew it.
Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 04:20 PM (PSKdh)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 04:22 PM (sYrWB)
Posted by: Peaches at January 29, 2011 08:02 PM (zxpIo)
Its all he's capable of so yeah. I mean you look back in the archives and you can see that's his only way of insulting everyone.
And really you've got to laugh. First I'm a liar. Then its that he wasn't posting because he works. Now its there are 2 to 5 people using the computer to post. But they all post and insult exactly the same. And miraculously all of them were too busy for the past few months to comment after that thread I just linked to.
Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 04:24 PM (oVQFe)
It isn't fun to play with you. I can't make fools of you. You make a fool out of yourselves.
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 04:30 PM (sYrWB)
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 04:33 PM (sYrWB)
Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 04:34 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 04:39 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Peaches at January 29, 2011 04:50 PM (zxpIo)
Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 04:54 PM (PSKdh)
Posted by: Peaches at January 29, 2011 04:56 PM (zxpIo)
Nice he was able to fit the crisis in between his daughter's basketball game and the party.
Fill your cars up tomorrow, if you haven't already done so.
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 05:36 PM (Fo83G)
Black Swan
Posted by: Anka Machines at January 29, 2011 05:42 PM (s7I0E)
Posted by: Richard at January 29, 2011 06:17 PM (BOCjk)
Posted by: Gary B at January 29, 2011 08:46 PM (1gWfF)
Posted by: that guy that doesn't read all the comments at January 30, 2011 05:35 AM (GTbGH)
Notice the comments for this story make no mention of the Muslim Brotherhood and for good reason...they will delete the comments and block you from posting.
Meanwhile, left wing antagonists and sheep are playing up the story that the POLICE infact are the looters....in the 'about' section its described as a 'husband and husband' blog team...par for the course as far as homosexual tolerance of dissenting opinion....
Posted by: metronil at January 30, 2011 06:18 AM (iMGtP)
Posted by: apodoca at January 30, 2011 07:23 PM (C4Y9x)
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