May 17, 2011

I'll Be Bareback: Schwarzenegger Fathered Love Ego Child With House Help
— Ace

"I can't believe this!" I exclaimed about something else entirely.

“After leaving the Governor’s office I told my wife about this event, which occurred over a decade ago,” he said in a statement. “I understand and deserve the feelings of anger and disappointment among my friends and family. There are no excuses and I take full responsibility for the hurt I have caused. I have apologized to Maria, my children and my family. I am truly sorry.”

The child was born before his 2003 run for governor.

The LATimes is vindicated here, a bit. They notoriously ran a slew of sex-problem stories about Schwarzenegger as he was challenging Gray Davis in the recall election. Many of these stories had little strong evidence to prove them, and really read like a liberal political hit, tossing out all sorts of charges against Schwarzenegger to protect their beloved Democrat.

And it was that. Of course it was that.

But it was also something else. I'm sure most people thought "Gee, there really seems to be something to all of this..." as I did.

Well, there was.

Under no circumstances would the LAT run such old gossip and thinly sourced smears against any non-Republican.

I know John Edwards was protected until it became absolutely impossible to do so any further. (Actually, they continued protecting him well after it became absolutely impossible to do so.)

And I know the media was pretty darned sure that Monica Lewinsky was a deranged stalker and there was nothing to that story and it was all just a smear and baseless innuendo and absolutely beneath them to even report. Why, exclusive, career-making scoops were spiked to protect Clinton.

(About which Matt Drudge says: Thanks for the millions of dollars, guys!)

Bill Maher is a contemptible, talentless midget jackass, but he does have a quote that I like: "All rumors are true." That's wildly overstated, of course, but it is something I think is mostly true.

Posted by: Ace at 09:46 AM | Comments (441)
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1 What a douchebag Schwarzenegger is. Seriously.

Posted by: Dominique Strauss-Kahn at May 17, 2011 09:48 AM (6uiF7)

2 Remember I said I would kill you last?

Posted by: Ahnold at May 17, 2011 09:48 AM (27KAF)

3 It is not a rumah!

Posted by: Ahnold at May 17, 2011 09:49 AM (27KAF)

4
You haff been sperminated.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 17, 2011 09:49 AM (C8hzL)

5 After leaving the Governor’s office I told my wife about this event, which occurred over a decade ago,” he said in a statement.

One wonders why he did that?  Confessing his sins off the cuff has to be incredibly stupid. There has to be more to the story.

Posted by: Vic at May 17, 2011 09:50 AM (M9Ie6)

6 ah, the Sperminator. Damn, that's a good one.

Posted by: ace at May 17, 2011 09:51 AM (nj1bB)

7 Not that it's really any of my bees-wax, but I don't buy this is the reason for the split.  Something which happened more than 10 years ago wouldn't split apart a healthy couple.  My theory is Maria caught him in bed with one too many floozys, and gave him an ultimatium, which he promptly failed.  In other words, in the end arnie will look worse than the first story ("we drifted apart") and worse than the second ("the fallout of an unfortunate mistake over 10 years ago").  We'll see how many more memes fill TMZ before it all settles.

Posted by: The Voice of Reason at May 17, 2011 09:51 AM (UpqKo)

8 What a douchebag Schwarzenegger is. Seriously.

Posted by: Dominique Strauss-Kahn at May 17, 2011 01:48 PM (6uiF7)

Word to your moms!

Posted by: John Edwards at May 17, 2011 09:51 AM (7KrHw)

9

His pick up line?

Get in The CHOPPA!

Posted by: Ben at May 17, 2011 09:52 AM (wuv1c)

10 Cum with me if you want to live!

Posted by: EC at May 17, 2011 09:53 AM (GQ8sn)

11

Wait, so this lady was working in his house for the past 10 years, raising his kid?

Oh well. I hate Maria Shriver. So what the hell do I care.

Besides, isn't it safe to assume 9 out of 10 politicians are having affairs?

Posted by: Ben at May 17, 2011 09:53 AM (wuv1c)

12 The expectation that our politicians are just like us has, sadly, gone by the wayside. It is this kind of behavior that we expect, and unfortunately get.

Normal people without the egos and sense of entitlement of the typical politician understand that both the people and the press assume that they have done and will do undignified and unethical and immoral things. They don't run for office because of this.

And that's why most of our politicians aren't normal people; they are, in a very real sense, sociopaths.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 17, 2011 09:53 AM (LH6ir)

13
Arnold's penis made contact with her mouth twice.


Posted by: Soothsayer at May 17, 2011 09:54 AM (gM4zK)

14 The LATimes is vindicated here, a bit.

Ya know, if the media didn't immediately throw as much mud as possible at each and every candidate with an R after their name, I might be a bit more inclined to listen to them when they try to report on this sort of thing when it actually has some basis in fact.

So while they may be vindicated ion this case, perhaps they can also learn a lesson here as well.

BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Oh, what am I saying?

Posted by: wiserbud at May 17, 2011 09:54 AM (3Okgs)

15 We're going to play a wonderful game called, "Who Is My Daddy, and What Does He Do?"

Posted by: 3.14159 at May 17, 2011 09:55 AM (tTlIu)

16 In the future when robots take over the world, will Arnold come back through time to protect his kid from cyborg clones of himself?

Posted by: EC at May 17, 2011 09:55 AM (GQ8sn)

17
7.  thx

it was that or Conan the Ovarian......

Posted by: fixerupper at May 17, 2011 09:55 AM (C8hzL)

18 Bill Maher is Don Lemon's gay lover

Posted by: Cherry π at May 17, 2011 09:55 AM (+sBB4)

19
I'm sure most people thought "Gee, there really seems to be something to all of this..." as I did.

Will Folks on line #1...

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 17, 2011 09:56 AM (gM4zK)

20

Now that's a good mistress. Bitch nows how to keep her mouth shut.

Posted by: swamp_yankee at May 17, 2011 09:56 AM (jOQSe)

21 What a loser. 

Posted by: BruceTheRobert at May 17, 2011 09:56 AM (re6ik)

22 Consider this a divorce

Posted by: Maria S at May 17, 2011 09:56 AM (9hSKh)

23 Oh, and get your ass to Mars!

Posted by: Maria S at May 17, 2011 09:56 AM (9hSKh)

24 Some prudent advice to Arnold right about now:


GET YOUR ASS TO MARS!!!!!

Posted by: EC at May 17, 2011 09:57 AM (GQ8sn)

25 If all rumors are true, what about the one that the current president is gay.

Posted by: mark at May 17, 2011 09:57 AM (Kmc+C)

26 I should haff cum on her bahck.....

Posted by: Ahnuld at May 17, 2011 09:57 AM (3Okgs)

27 Awww crap!!!  You beat me to it!

Posted by: EC at May 17, 2011 09:57 AM (GQ8sn)

28 Yeah ya know male Kennedy's never cheated on their spouses?

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 17, 2011 09:58 AM (i6RpT)

29 You hypocrites.  What would you do if your wife looked like Ted Kennedy?

Posted by: Ahnold at May 17, 2011 09:58 AM (1fanL)

30 One wonders why he did that?  Confessing his sins off the cuff has to be incredibly stupid. There has to be more to the story.

The kid is now 10.  He's probably turning out to be a dead ringer for Arnold, despite his mother and 'official' dad being hispanic (the standard California assumption).

Posted by: wooga at May 17, 2011 09:58 AM (2p0e3)

31

Posted by: EC at May 17, 2011 01:57 PM (GQ8sn)

*fist bump*.  Great minds think alike! 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 17, 2011 09:58 AM (9hSKh)

32
"I'm a cop governor philanderer, you idiot!"


Posted by: Soothsayer at May 17, 2011 09:58 AM (gM4zK)

33 I'm just going on the thought that EVERYONE in position of power does this until proven otherwise.

It's really quite disturbing.  100% of Hollywood does this, for sure.  It's just pretty fucking sick that it's becoming such a mainstay of the political environment.

Posted by: © Sponge at May 17, 2011 09:58 AM (UK9cE)

34 16 We're going to play a wonderful game called, "Who Is My Daddy, and What Does He Do?"

Winnah.

I also would have accepted "Our mom says our dad is a real sex machine."

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 17, 2011 09:59 AM (UvFnc)

35 Cum on guys - he married a Kenndy scrunt. Its an occupational hazard for Kennedy womyn.

Posted by: FAT DEAD TED at May 17, 2011 09:59 AM (Q5+Og)

36 The first sign... The kid speaks Austrian

Posted by: Cherry π at May 17, 2011 09:59 AM (+sBB4)

37

His pick up line?

Get in The CHOPPA!

Posted by: Ben at May 17, 2011 01:52 PM (wuv1c)

Get in the CHAKRA!

Posted by: Ahnold at May 17, 2011 10:00 AM (1fanL)

38 Maybe it's toomah

Posted by: Ben at May 17, 2011 10:00 AM (wuv1c)

39 16 We're going to play a wonderful game called, "Who Is My Daddy, and What Does He Do?"

You owe me a new laptop.  There's Pepsi Max everywhere!

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 17, 2011 10:00 AM (9hSKh)

40 One wonders why he did that?  Confessing his sins off the cuff has to be incredibly stupid. There has to be more to the story.

Posted by: Vic at May 17, 2011 01:50 PM (M9Ie6)



My wife read earlier today that the woman in question was retiring as their maid, or whatever, so I'm pretty sure he was about to get hit with a paternity suit or whatever.  He needed to come clean first.  

My guess, anyway.

Posted by: © Sponge at May 17, 2011 10:00 AM (UK9cE)

41 Was the house help the three titted woman from Total Recall?

Posted by: Ben at May 17, 2011 10:01 AM (wuv1c)

42 These accounts of Arnold's infidelity are radical and disheartening. We need to have a national conversation about them.

Posted by: "Issac" Newton Gingrich, sooper jeenius at May 17, 2011 10:02 AM (HrAUl)

43 If it bleeds, I can fuck it.

Posted by: Ahnuld at May 17, 2011 10:02 AM (3Okgs)

44 One wonders why he did that?  Confessing his sins off the cuff has to be incredibly stupid. There has to be more to the story.

Posted by: Vic at May 17, 2011 01:50 PM (M9Ie6)

The story I heard this morning is that the family of one of Esteban Nunez's victims is suing Arnold over his pardon and his finances would be examined as part of the discovery process and that would likely reveal his support for his kid with the maid.

For those who haven't heard of this story Arnold reduced the sentence of Esteban Nunez for attempted murder from 16 years to 7 in his last week in office. Esteban is the thug son of former CA State Assembly leader Fabio Nunez who is a good buddy of Arnold's. This is one of those stories that only becomes more sordid and disgusting the more you look into it. Frankly after pulling this in his last few days in office Schwarzenegger should be shunned from polite political society.

Posted by: Mætenloch at May 17, 2011 10:02 AM (pAlYe)

45 My wife read earlier today that the woman in question was retiring as their maid, or whatever, so I'm pretty sure he was about to get hit with a paternity suit or whatever.

The story said he had been making support payments all along.

Posted by: Vic at May 17, 2011 10:02 AM (M9Ie6)

46 Hasta la vista, puta.

Posted by: The Two-Timing Governator at May 17, 2011 10:02 AM (AN8d5)

47 Why Maria???

Cause you are one ugly muthafucka...

Posted by: Dutch at May 17, 2011 10:03 AM (C8hzL)

48 What is best in life? To crush your maids with your penis, see them spreadeagled before you, and to hear the lamentations of your wife.

Posted by: Ahnold at May 17, 2011 10:03 AM (kaZUb)

49 saying that 'all rumors are true' is BillMaherBullShit

All rumors are distorted truth; the range of 'distorted' is wide and high, tho

Rumors about Republicans and conservatives are usually badly distorted, warped, dishonest, and exaggerated.  Rumors about libtards...much less so

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at May 17, 2011 10:03 AM (UqKQV)

50 She was on his staff, you say?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at May 17, 2011 10:03 AM (IYLAL)

51 43 Was the house help the three titted woman from Total Recall?

I wouldn't be surprised if it was "T-X" Kristina Loken from Terminator 3 considering where her career is right now.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 17, 2011 10:03 AM (UvFnc)

52 I heard Bill Maher is gay.  With sheep.

Pass it on.

Posted by: logprof at May 17, 2011 10:04 AM (BP6Z1)

53 Esteban Nunez

WOW, That is a story that should have got some attention. Where was the MFM on that?

Posted by: Vic at May 17, 2011 10:04 AM (M9Ie6)

54 Note to self: hire ugly maid.

Posted by: Maria at May 17, 2011 10:04 AM (+dGnF)

55

I wouldn't be surprised if it was "T-X" Kristina Loken from Terminator 3 considering where her career is right now.

she's a lesbo

Posted by: Ben at May 17, 2011 10:04 AM (wuv1c)

56 (To Arnold):

Your clothes, give them to me, now! 

Posted by: Household Staff Member at May 17, 2011 10:05 AM (9hSKh)

57 take a letter maria, address it to my wife,
say I wont me comin hone, gotta start a new life

Posted by: Cherry π at May 17, 2011 10:05 AM (+sBB4)

58 The kid has one red eye.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 17, 2011 10:05 AM (d0Tfm)

59

I had a bet going that he had dried up raisin balls.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at May 17, 2011 10:05 AM (HaYO4)

60 I wouldn't be surprised if it was "T-X" Kristina Loken from Terminator 3 considering where her career is right now.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 17, 2011 02:03 PM (UvFnc)

Can't figure that, because she's smokin' hot.  Even if she can't act, her career should have done better.

Posted by: FUBAR, Movie Connoiseur at May 17, 2011 10:06 AM (1fanL)

61 Crush Gray Davis!


See him driven from office!

Hear the impregnations of the women!

Posted by: Conan the Spermarian at May 17, 2011 10:06 AM (BP6Z1)

62 "All rumors are true." That's wildly overstated, of course, but it is something I think is mostly true.

I wonder, does this mean those rumors of an Obama affair back during the campaign were true?

Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 17, 2011 10:06 AM (hfWKa)

63 Cmon! Do it now..I'm here! 

Posted by: Arnold S. at May 17, 2011 10:06 AM (9hSKh)

64

she's a lesbo

Posted by: Ben at May 17, 2011 02:04 PM (wuv1c)

More good news!!!

Posted by: Roise, Whoopi, et al at May 17, 2011 10:06 AM (UqKQV)

65 On the bareback part: mostly untrue.  I was wearing a monicle.

Posted by: Arnold Schwartzenneggar at May 17, 2011 10:06 AM (bD7Ii)

66

she's a lesbo

Posted by: Ben at May 17, 2011 02:04 PM (wuv1c)

DAMMIT!

Posted by: FUBAR, Movie Connoiseur at May 17, 2011 10:06 AM (1fanL)

67

"I can't believe this!" I exclaimed about something else entirely.

Maybe you saw my local news, where they expressed "surprise" that, in the NY-26 race - that an actual Tea Party organization endorsed the Republican, instead of the faux Tea Party guy. Wow. Even the locals are in on the scam. Or maybe they're just stupid. Yeah, maybe just stupid.

Posted by: Optimizer at May 17, 2011 10:06 AM (F56VB)

68 62 I wouldn't be surprised if it was "T-X" Kristina Loken from Terminator 3 considering where her career is right now.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 17, 2011 02:03 PM (UvFnc)

Can't figure that, because she's smokin' hot.  Even if she can't act, her career should have done better.

The lesson here? Working for Uwe Boll, director of Bloodrayne amongst other travesties, is harmful to your career prospects.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 17, 2011 10:07 AM (UvFnc)

69 At least arnold will have one kid without the alcoholic gene.

Posted by: swamp_yankee at May 17, 2011 10:07 AM (jOQSe)

70

Schvarze-n*gger?????

Sounds like a g*ddamn racist diamond merchant

Posted by: Reverend Al at May 17, 2011 10:07 AM (AnTyA)

71 The story said he had been making support payments all along.

Posted by: Vic at May 17, 2011 02:02 PM (M9Ie6)



Support payments, disguised as maid payments.  With the maid retiring and he having no other need to keep paying her, I think may've added to the situation.  Again, pure speculation on my part, but in taking a lead from the AP, I'm reporting it here as fact.

Posted by: © Sponge at May 17, 2011 10:07 AM (UK9cE)

72 To unnamed household staff member:

Stick around. 

Posted by: Arnold S. at May 17, 2011 10:07 AM (9hSKh)

73 Bill Maher is a contemptible, talentless midget jackass,

Hey, asshole! I crap bigger and better than Bill Maher! Literally! One more shot like that and I'll kick your keister up around your pieced ears!

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at May 17, 2011 10:08 AM (2PTT7)

74 If you vant to be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you.

Posted by: Ahnuld at May 17, 2011 10:08 AM (3Okgs)

75

Schvarze-n*gger?????

Sounds like a g*ddamn racist diamond merchant

Posted by: Reverend Al at May 17, 2011 02:07 PM (AnTyA)



I HATE NAGGERS!!!!!





Posted by: Some South Park episode at May 17, 2011 10:08 AM (UK9cE)

76 Wait... wait... First this, then Romney and Cindy Crawford are in the news.  Could it be?

Posted by: Cherry π at May 17, 2011 10:08 AM (+sBB4)

77 "I'll be bareback." How long have you been waiting for an excuse to use this line? "Maria is a really an incredible motha. So is our maid, what's her name."

Posted by: JohnW at May 17, 2011 10:08 AM (GmYTP)

78 My wife read earlier today that the woman in question was retiring as their maid, or whatever, so I'm pretty sure he was about to get hit with a paternity suit or whatever.

The story said he had been making support payments all along.

Posted by: Vic

Yup. And now the official gravy train was coming to an end. Were these payments on the sly, or were they covered as her pay? I kinda doubt the the division of child support enforcement was cutting the checks. I'll bet that he's been trying to buy her off and failed. Ahnolds' staff meeting was going to 'come' to light.

Posted by: Eurofighter (no, it's not an oxymoron) at May 17, 2011 10:09 AM (Gzv/o)

79 Crap, sock fail!

Bill Maher is a contemptible, talentless midget jackass,

Hey, asshole! I crap bigger and better than Bill Maher! Literally! One more shot like that and I'll kick your keister up around your pieced ears!

Posted by: Midget Jackass, Minding His Own Business Down At The Petting Zoo at May 17, 2011 10:10 AM (2PTT7)

80

This explains many things.  First, he started as a real conservative.  Its obvious now, that his democrat enemies found out about this probably 1-2 years into his first term, and used it to blackmail him into backing every crazy socialist green policy.

 

His 180 turnabout was so maddening that conservatives in CA basically tuned out.  His 180 was cha_les john_on like... now we know why.

I wont put forth a similar theory about chucky.. haha but I bet a playground was involved

Posted by: Billy Barty at May 17, 2011 10:10 AM (V+aEN)

81 I stole this...

614 days until the END of the OBAMA adminsitration

Posted by: Cherry π at May 17, 2011 10:10 AM (+sBB4)

82 ""Bill Maher is a contemptible, talentless midget jackass""



And thats being kind.

Posted by: Berserker at May 17, 2011 10:10 AM (FMbng)

83 What a disgrace to the Kennedy name. You don't buy off mistresses, you date-rape 'em and drown them in a Buick. Or deny that shit at your rape trial while demanding her identity be released. Or give 'em a double fistful of Qualuudes to snack on and then tell Joe DiMaggio, "Hey, that totally sucks, bro."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 17, 2011 10:10 AM (FI38b)

84 Hey what's the big freaken deal? He is done with politics where this might have hurt him. He is back in movies where this might even help him and restore his mojo.

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 17, 2011 10:10 AM (i6RpT)

85 The maid is living tissue over metal fetalskeleton.

Posted by: JohnW at May 17, 2011 10:11 AM (GmYTP)

86 I heard a rumor Bill Maher likes to cover his naked body in peanut butter and let his dog lick it off.

Posted by: World Religions at May 17, 2011 10:11 AM (HPcQF)

87 So I cooked up a story and dropped my six in a meatgrinder!

Posted by: The Two-Timing Governator at May 17, 2011 10:11 AM (AN8d5)

88 I lied....

I've been feeding it more than blondes. 

Posted by: Arnold S. at May 17, 2011 10:11 AM (9hSKh)

89

I just want to see what the kid looks like.

Posted by: sydney jane at May 17, 2011 10:12 AM (WDFri)

90 I knew I shoulda just stuck to the Hummers.

Posted by: Ahnold at May 17, 2011 10:12 AM (tf9Ne)

91 He never worried about giving his wife an SDT with all his bareback riding.

Posted by: Tough US Immigration Policies at May 17, 2011 10:13 AM (x/4B/)

92 "Phase plasma condom in a 40 watt range." "Just what you see, pal." "Dammit! Ah, vell, vat's the vorse that could happen?"

Posted by: JohnW at May 17, 2011 10:13 AM (GmYTP)

93 Paraphrasing Rush-
How long  will it take for the MSM to question why the housekeeper didn't get an abortion?

LOL

Posted by: Barbarian at May 17, 2011 10:13 AM (EL+OC)

94 His next movie... Inception.

Posted by: Cherry π at May 17, 2011 10:13 AM (+sBB4)

95 I stole this...

614 days until the END of the OBAMA adminshitsration.

Posted by: Cherry π at May 17, 2011 02:10 PM (+sBB4)




Fixed..



Posted by: © Sponge at May 17, 2011 10:13 AM (UK9cE)

96 He molested, mutilated and mothered her.

Posted by: . at May 17, 2011 10:13 AM (gQLr2)

97 "Bill Maher is a contemptible, talentless midget jackass, but he does have a quote that I like: "All rumors are true." That's wildly overstated, of course, but it is something I think is mostly true. "

What is a rumor but a premature fact?

Posted by: George Roberts from Barbarians at the Gate at May 17, 2011 10:13 AM (xy9wk)

98 Cumming to a theater near you soon!

The one, the only, iOTW!

Posted by: momma at May 17, 2011 10:13 AM (penCf)

99 ""What a disgrace to the Kennedy name. You don't buy off mistresses, you date-rape 'em and drown them in a Buick. Or deny that shit at your rape trial while demanding her identity be released. Or give 'em a double fistful of Qualuudes to snack on and then tell Joe DiMaggio, "Hey, that totally sucks, bro."


Holy shit that made me laugh.

Posted by: Berserker at May 17, 2011 10:14 AM (FMbng)

100 The Inseminator

Posted by: momma-only read to comment #33 at May 17, 2011 10:14 AM (penCf)

101 99 "Bill Maher is a contemptible, talentless midget jackass, but he does have a quote that I like: "All rumors are true." That's wildly overstated, of course, but it is something I think is mostly true. "

What is a rumor but a premature fact?

And, in liberal terms "After all, what is murder but an extroverted suicide?"

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 17, 2011 10:15 AM (UvFnc)

102 Bill Maher is a contemptible, talentless midget jackass, but he does have a quote that I like: "All rumors are true."

Maher probably stole that from the Dilbert guy, who undoubtedly stole it from someone else. It's "traditional," like a folk song. The first time I heard it, probably in the late '80s, it was credited to Oscar Wilde, like all gay-sounding one-liners are. No one "has" it.

Posted by: oblig. at May 17, 2011 10:15 AM (xvZW9)

103 O/T:  I hear Rush playing this quote of the president about getting an education cause you aren't just competing with someone from nashville and Atlanta but Beijing and Mumbai.  Rush is taking it that the prez thinks we have no manufacturing.

I think he means that these kids are going to come to the US and take our engineering and doctoring and lawyering jobs cause he's giving them work visas. 

what do you think?

Posted by: curious at May 17, 2011 10:15 AM (k1rwm)

104 Live Free and Govern Hard

Posted by: Cherry π at May 17, 2011 10:15 AM (+sBB4)

105 I'm not into politics. I'm into superficial sex with the hired help.

Posted by: The Two-Timing Governator at May 17, 2011 10:15 AM (AN8d5)

106

"My wife read earlier today that the woman in question was retiring as their maid, or whatever, so I'm pretty sure he was about to get hit with a paternity suit or whatever."

Article said he's been paying support the last 10 years.  But, you could be right in that maybe the mother was looking for more money, or maybe the Enquirer started snooping around. Hard to believe Maria had no clue for all this time.

Posted by: sydney jane at May 17, 2011 10:16 AM (WDFri)

107 # 102

totally stolen from comments at iOTW!



Posted by: momma-only read to comment #33 at May 17, 2011 10:16 AM (penCf)

108 This shock factor of this story almost equals the revelation that Brett Favre once contemplated infidelity.

Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at May 17, 2011 10:16 AM (+lsX1)

109 The Hunt for Red Beaver

Posted by: Cherry π at May 17, 2011 10:16 AM (+sBB4)

110

And, in liberal terms "After all, what is murder but an extroverted suicide?"

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 17, 2011 02:15 PM (UvFnc)

There is no murder, there is only post-partum abortion.

Posted by: Kermey Gosnell at May 17, 2011 10:17 AM (1fanL)

111 The Inseminator.

Posted by: JEM at May 17, 2011 10:17 AM (o+SC1)

112 The maid is living tissue over metal fetalskeleton.

The ex-wife is tissue paper over regular skeleton.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 17, 2011 10:17 AM (fsGgs)

113 If it bleeds pees, I can fuck it.

FIFY, Ahnuld.

Posted by: Roman Polanski at May 17, 2011 10:17 AM (/U/Mr)

114 Does Bill Maher know there's a rumor going around about him that he's a contemptible, talentless midget jackass?

Posted by: FireHorse at May 17, 2011 10:17 AM (Rq1/g)

115 Arnold was just expressing his inner social liberalism.

Inner????  Hell .... I thought it was pretty damned obvious from the outside.....

Posted by: fixerupper at May 17, 2011 10:17 AM (C8hzL)

116 55 Esteban Nunez

WOW, That is a story that should have got some attention. Where was the MFM on that?

Posted by: Vic at May 17, 2011 02:04 PM (M9Ie6)

It got covered back in January - but only on page A12. So far talk radio is about the only place where you'll hear about it.

Here's the short version: Esteban Nunez and three other privileged politically-connected boys from Sacramento liked to pretend they were gang members. So when they got turned away from a private fraternity party at SDSU, they went out and stabbed two random SDSU students. One died but the one Esteban stabbed in the back lived which is why he pleaded guilty to only attempted murder. Esteban was unrepentant over the crime and the only reason his sentence was reduced by Arnold is because his father is a good friend of Arnold's. You can read more here.

Posted by: Mætenloch at May 17, 2011 10:18 AM (pAlYe)

117 Gonad the Ballbearian.

Posted by: Ahhhnold at May 17, 2011 10:18 AM (+dGnF)

118 Hard to believe Maria had no clue for all this time.

She's a freaking Kennedy.  She's been trained from birth to look the other way as long as it would help further the family's fortunes.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 17, 2011 10:18 AM (UvFnc)

119 (oops, someone else got there first here, but I posted it somewhere else about six hours ago, so...)

Posted by: JEM at May 17, 2011 10:18 AM (o+SC1)

120 Ahhh, so he was punished with a baby!

Posted by: Obama at May 17, 2011 10:18 AM (penCf)

121 Maria grew up in the Kennedy family, where cheating was a sport.

Now, someone feed the poor girl a sammich.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 10:18 AM (UOM48)

122

This is no problem for him....all he has to do is become a Democrat.....and Yatzeee! He will be President Material!

Arnold 2012. It doesn't matter if he was born here, he'll be a Democrat, so he is in.

America is Great and the Sky is Blue!

Posted by: Jimi at May 17, 2011 10:18 AM (JMsOK)

123

Maher probably stole that from the Dilbert guy, who undoubtedly stole it from someone else. It's "traditional," like a folk song. The first time I heard it, probably in the late '80s, it was credited to Oscar Wilde, like all gay-sounding one-liners are. No one "has" it.

Posted by: oblig. at May 17, 2011 02:15 PM (xvZW9)




Wow.  Mr. Negativity......

Lighten up Francis.....


Posted by: © Sponge at May 17, 2011 10:19 AM (UK9cE)

124 He and Roman Polanski to star in First Blood

Posted by: Cherry π at May 17, 2011 10:19 AM (+sBB4)

125

Will this be an episode in Arnie's cartoon project, The Governator?

Posted by: Gerry Owen at May 17, 2011 10:19 AM (4ABat)

126  ARR---NOLD!! (Tightly clutches riding crop in trembling hands)

Posted by: Colonel Klink at May 17, 2011 10:20 AM (bD7Ii)

127 "Well, there was no sex for 14 days..." -[Schwarzenegger] on getting the cold shoulder from his wife after backing President George W. Bush at the Republican Convention "...from Maria."

Posted by: JohnW at May 17, 2011 10:20 AM (GmYTP)

128 " I like you, thats why I'm going to fuck you last"

Ahhnold "commando" Schwarzenegger

Posted by: Berserker at May 17, 2011 10:20 AM (FMbng)

129 I eat the household staff for breakfast and right now I'm VERY hungry!

Posted by: Arnold S. at May 17, 2011 10:20 AM (9hSKh)

130 Now, someone feed the poor girl a sammich.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 02:18 PM (UOM4

Huh?  She needs to be making a sammich.  This wouldn't have happened if she could make a decent sammich.

Yes it would.  Because SHE LOOKS LIKE TEDDY!

Posted by: Sammich-Eating Moron at May 17, 2011 10:20 AM (1fanL)

131
I wonder, does this mean those rumors of an Obama affair back during the campaign were true?

That was a peremptory counter rumor to hide the fact that jef sucks dick. If he ever got caught, he could let the affair rumor leak and then say that since they can't both be true, they must both be false.

Posted by: nine c at May 17, 2011 10:20 AM (uz3hs)

132

>>> This shock factor of this story almost equals the revelation that Brett Favre once contemplated infidelity.

With any luck at all ol' Brett has left a few "gunslingers" out there for future fans to enjoy....

BOOM!

Posted by: John Madden at May 17, 2011 10:20 AM (u7MDB)

133 Enter the Dragon

Posted by: Cherry π at May 17, 2011 10:20 AM (+sBB4)

134 So there's not going to be a constitutional amendment to allow Arnold to run for President?

Posted by: Stateless Canadian Infidel at May 17, 2011 10:21 AM (GKQDR)

135 "About which Matt Drudge says: Thanks for the millions of dollars, guys!"

I will forever make the Drudge Report my Home Page, just to stick it to the bastards in the MSM. Plenty of hits everyday for the hatted one.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at May 17, 2011 10:21 AM (71LDo)

136

18 years! 18 years! She got one of yo kids, got you for 18 years!

 

Posted by: Kanye West at May 17, 2011 10:21 AM (9BzDU)

137 "French President Nicolas Sarkozy's father appears to have confirmed the pregnancy rumours surrounding first lady Carla Bruni-Sarkozy. Pal Sarkozy was quoted by German daily Bild as saying, “I’m sure it will be a girl and as beautiful as Carla.” Arnold?

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 17, 2011 10:21 AM (i6RpT)

138 No sequel for you!

Posted by: Maria S at May 17, 2011 10:22 AM (9hSKh)

139 Release the Khalidi video, and then we can talk about "vindication".

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 17, 2011 10:22 AM (fsGgs)

140 "Get to the Chopper"

Posted by: Jimi at May 17, 2011 10:22 AM (JMsOK)

141 Heidi: My momma said my daddy's name was Ahnuld Schvollenpecker.
Brunhilde: So did my momma!
Der Gropenfuhrer: Err, uhh, hush up little girls. A lot of cats have that name.

Posted by: Arnold Schwarzenegger IS Black Dynamite at May 17, 2011 10:22 AM (xy9wk)

142 I heard a rumor Bill Maher likes to cover his naked body in peanut butter and let his dog lick it off.

Man, this board is full of animal haters! I'll stick to licking my gonads, thankyouverymuch!

Posted by: Bill Maher's Dog 'Mini-Me' at May 17, 2011 10:22 AM (2PTT7)

143 Get down..

And cum with me if you want to live. 

Posted by: Arnold S. at May 17, 2011 10:23 AM (9hSKh)

144 If what they are reporting is accurate,

You have to feel bad for this whore's husband.  He has been paying for/raising a child that he thought was his, but wasn't.

Posted by: momma at May 17, 2011 10:23 AM (penCf)

145 So that's how you Americans keep this on the down-low! Only bang the household help!

Posted by: Dominique Strauss-Kahn at May 17, 2011 10:23 AM (GmYTP)

146 38 The first sign... The kid speaks Austrian

that deserves a *rimshot*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 10:23 AM (UOM48)

147 Pumping Irene.

Posted by: . at May 17, 2011 10:23 AM (gQLr2)

148 I don't believe I've ever had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Schwarzenegger.

Posted by: Scruples at May 17, 2011 10:23 AM (O7Q1u)

149 I heard a rumor that Bill Maher raises pygmy goats and its not for the milk.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at May 17, 2011 10:23 AM (qwK3S)

150 See, if Arnold would have just followed my advice, he could have just pleasured himself.

Posted by: momma at May 17, 2011 10:24 AM (penCf)

151 27 If all rumors are true, what about the one that the current president is gay. -------------------------------------- I'm not saying the Prez is gay but the men he takes with him on every vacation look a bit light in the Footjoy's if ya know what I mean?

Posted by: David at May 17, 2011 10:24 AM (OXUok)

152 So there's not going to be a constitutional amendment to allow Arnold to run for President?

Posted by: Stateless Canadian Infidel

 

I guess that the kid qualifies though.

Posted by: Eurofighter (no, it's not an oxymoron) at May 17, 2011 10:24 AM (Gzv/o)

153 soon to be leaked sex tape:  Pumping The Ironer.

Posted by: mark c at May 17, 2011 10:24 AM (SBIko)

154

I'll Be Back!.........but let me change this diaper first!

 

Posted by: Jimi at May 17, 2011 10:24 AM (JMsOK)

155 that deserves a *rimshot*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 02:23 PM (UOM4


How do you think he made the baby?


Posted by: momma at May 17, 2011 10:25 AM (penCf)

156 147 If what they are reporting is accurate,

You have to feel bad for this whore's husband.  He has been paying for/raising a child that he thought was his, but wasn't.

And under our wonderful system, still would be, even if he discovered it wasn't his. (assuming the real baby daddy had vamoosed).

Posted by: . at May 17, 2011 10:25 AM (gQLr2)

157

 >>> I heard a rumor that Bill Maher raises pygmy goats and its not for the milk.

 

You say that like it's a bad thing..........

 

 

Posted by: Bin Ladins Ghost at May 17, 2011 10:25 AM (u7MDB)

158 If what they are reporting is accurate,

You have to feel bad for this whore's husband.  He has been paying for/raising a child that he thought was his, but wasn't.

Posted by: momma

 

Even worse. This kid and the husband may not have known, so that relationship was just trashed. I loved how they said the name was being withheld. How many housekeepers have been there for that many years?

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2011 10:26 AM (Gzv/o)

159 I kept telling my family he was a Dem, but would they listen? Noooooo....

Proves I was right. HA!

Posted by: Maria Shriver at May 17, 2011 10:26 AM (penCf)

160 It is not a rumah!

I laughed out loud.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 17, 2011 10:27 AM (GTbGH)

161 The comments at the LAT are so predictable.  The usual, "Republicans and conservatives are always the ones who cheat!!11!!!!"

Their tiny little brains conveniently forget the Kennedy men, John Edwards, etc.

And Ahnold ain't no conservative.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 10:28 AM (UOM48)

162 If the first thing I saw every day when I woke up was Maria Shriver, I'd bang the rusty exhaust pipe of the first car I saw in a junk yard until it screamed my name. Man, is she fugly.

Posted by: Joejm65 at May 17, 2011 10:28 AM (BDB5n)

163 So there's not going to be a constitutional amendment to allow Arnold to run for President?

Orrin Hatch was pushing this when Arnold became Governor.  I guess Hatch's looking like something that just came out of tall cow's ass right now.

What am I saying?  Hatch's has always acted like he came out of a tall cow's ass.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at May 17, 2011 10:28 AM (/U/Mr)

164 Hard to believe Maria had no clue for all this time.

As Rush said at the top of his show, "... and they want us to believe that Maria was a journalist."

Posted by: wiserbud at May 17, 2011 10:28 AM (3Okgs)

165 This is impossible!  It's all lies!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Onan the Destroyer at May 17, 2011 10:28 AM (u7MDB)

166 "YOU BASTARD!!! You told me the French maid uniforms were to give the mansion a more European feel!!!"

Posted by: Maria Shiver at May 17, 2011 10:29 AM (GKQDR)

167 Yes he does have a love child. But I believe watching goat porn was the straw that broke the camels back in his marriage.

Just sayin...

Posted by: Marcus at May 17, 2011 10:29 AM (CHrmZ)

168 The need inside you
I see it showin'
Whoa, the seed inside ya
Baby, do you feel it growin'
Are you happy you know it
That you're...


Havin' my baby

Posted by: Cherry π at May 17, 2011 10:30 AM (+sBB4)

169 Wait, I'm confused. Don't Kennedy women become alcoholics before they divorce their men? Someone, help...

Posted by: Joejm65 at May 17, 2011 10:30 AM (BDB5n)

170
Get to the lawyeh!

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 17, 2011 10:30 AM (QMtmy)

171 If depression from the breakup causes Maria to lose more weight, she'll be invisible. 

I can't imagine what she looks like in person.  Skeletor, indeed.  {{shudder}}

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 10:30 AM (UOM48)

172 Best Ahnold movie title of them all:  True Lies

Posted by: wiserbud at May 17, 2011 10:31 AM (3Okgs)

173 It's all a Lie.....Didn't anyone see "Junior?" It is actually a baby that Arnold birthed himself

Posted by: Jimi at May 17, 2011 10:31 AM (JMsOK)

174 ""I'm not saying the Prez is gay but the men he takes with him on every vacation...""


yeah,  nothing strange there.



Posted by: Berserker at May 17, 2011 10:31 AM (FMbng)

175 170 "YOU BASTARD!!! You told me the French maid uniforms were to give the mansion a more European feel!!!"

Posted by: Maria Shiver at May 17, 2011 02:29 PM (GKQDR)


Maria Shiver+French Maid Uniform= Terminal boner

Posted by: Next at May 17, 2011 10:31 AM (CHrmZ)

176

@113: "There is no murder, there is only post-partum abortion."

Erroneous! Untrue! Schwarzenegger murdered beloved children's book author Tookie Williams!!!

Posted by: Typical Californian at May 17, 2011 10:32 AM (xy9wk)

177 The fact that he cheated isn't surprising.

The fact that he could still get it up, and that he wasn't just shooting blanks after all the steroid use, is what shocked the shit out of me.

Posted by: momma at May 17, 2011 10:32 AM (penCf)

178 That's just my baby's daddy.

Posted by: The Domestic Help at May 17, 2011 10:32 AM (1fanL)

179 178 ""I'm not saying the Prez is gay but the men he takes with him on every vacation...""

We're just advisors.

Posted by: Fareed Zakaria at May 17, 2011 10:33 AM (UOM48)

180 There are countless sleezeball Repubs that have had affairs, please stop bringing up Clinton. Getting old.

Posted by: GONZOTX at May 17, 2011 10:33 AM (ExKx3)

181 Another situation that could have been avoided with Ass To Mouth™.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 17, 2011 10:33 AM (OW0nw)

182 If you can't be with the one you love
Love the one you're with

Posted by: Ahnuld at May 17, 2011 10:33 AM (3Okgs)

183 The fact that he could still get it up, and that he wasn't just shooting blanks after all the steroid use, is what shocked the shit out of me.

I think it may have surprised him, too.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 17, 2011 10:33 AM (UvFnc)

184 He just wanted to let off a little steam.

Posted by: Vernon Wells at May 17, 2011 10:33 AM (w14Q9)

185

Maybe you saw my local news, where they expressed "surprise" that, in the NY-26 race - that an actual Tea Party organization endorsed the Republican, instead of the faux Tea Party guy. Wow. Even the locals are in on the scam. Or maybe they're just stupid. Yeah, maybe just stupid.

Posted by: Optimizer at May 17, 2011 02:06 PM (F56VB)


My favorite story out of that mess is a local talk show guy named Lonsberry, shit all over the TEA party when it kicked off. The best part? He endorsed the fake tea party candidate.

Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at May 17, 2011 10:34 AM (6IReR)

186 166 If the first thing I saw every day when I woke up was Maria Shriver, I'd bang the rusty exhaust pipe of the first car I saw in a junk yard until it screamed my name. Man, is she fugly.

Posted by: Joejm65 at May 17, 2011 02:28 PM (BDB5n)

 

Well, they are both enormously chinned, half-robotic looking beasts. A match made in the netherworld for sure.

Posted by: Chellita at May 17, 2011 10:34 AM (9BzDU)

187 184 There are countless sleezeball Repubs that have had affairs, please stop bringing up Clinton. Getting old.

Posted by: GONZOTX at May 17, 2011 02:33 PM (ExKx3)


Sure, but how many of them were president and lied their asses off about it on national tv?

Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at May 17, 2011 10:34 AM (6IReR)

188 Maria's first clue should have been the inch thick dust everywhere.  For ten freaking years.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 10:35 AM (UOM48)

189 ""I'm not saying the Prez is gay but the men he takes with him on every vacation...""

Oh, you are just determined to get on my last nerve, aren't you?

Posted by: Fareed Zakaria at May 17, 2011 10:35 AM (3Okgs)

190 There are countless sleezeball Repubs that have had affairs, please stop bringing up Clinton. Getting old.

Posted by: GONZOTX at May 17, 2011 02:33 PM (ExKx3)

Damn skippy.  Republicans are reprehensible.

Posted by: Zombie Gerry Studds at May 17, 2011 10:35 AM (1fanL)

191
"The best activities for your health are pumping and humping."  --  Arnold Schwarzenegger


Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 17, 2011 10:36 AM (QMtmy)

192 181 The fact that he cheated isn't surprising.

The fact that he could still get it up, and that he wasn't just shooting blanks after all the steroid use, is what shocked the shit out of me.

Posted by: momma at May 17, 2011 02:32 PM (penCf)

Steroids only make you temporarily infertile. If it were permanent, then pretty much no athletes would have any children.

Posted by: Mætenloch at May 17, 2011 10:36 AM (pAlYe)

193

Best Ahnold movie title of them all:  True Lies

JUNIOR!

Posted by: Ahhhnold at May 17, 2011 10:36 AM (+dGnF)

194 193 ""I'm not saying the Prez is gay but the men he takes with him on every vacation...""

*sighs longingly*

Posted by: Kal Penn at May 17, 2011 10:36 AM (UOM48)

195

What can I say, I love to pump.

http://tinyurl.com/4l3e64

Posted by: Ahnold at May 17, 2011 10:37 AM (/Mla1)

196 Rumor has it Arnold ran against Cruz Bustamante, not Gray Davis. But I could be mixing up my hapless Democrats.

Posted by: JWF at May 17, 2011 10:37 AM (1l37M)

197 This has shaden-gazem written all over it.

Posted by: rightzilla at May 17, 2011 10:37 AM (XGL7K)

198 170 "YOU BASTARD!!! You told me the French maid uniforms were to give the mansion a more European feel!!!"

Posted by: Maria Shiver at May 17, 2011 02:29 PM (GKQDR)

See, these American women just don't understand...

Posted by: Dominique Strauss-Kahn at May 17, 2011 10:37 AM (hfWKa)

199 Not to mention under oath.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at May 17, 2011 02:36 PM (vbh31)


that whole "under oath" thing is so over rated.

Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at May 17, 2011 10:37 AM (6IReR)

200 "One of my movies was called True Lies. It's what the Democrats should have called their convention." -Arnold Schwarzenegger

Posted by: Jimi at May 17, 2011 10:37 AM (JMsOK)

201 What do you expect from the Governator of Kali -Fornication?

Posted by: Gerry Owen at May 17, 2011 10:38 AM (4ABat)

202 """The comments at the LAT are so predictable.  The usual, "Republicans and conservatives are always the ones who cheat!!11!!!!""



They're just pissed because the leftists have smaller dicks.

Posted by: Berserker at May 17, 2011 10:38 AM (FMbng)

203 Steroids only make you temporarily infertile. If it were permanent, then pretty much no athletes would have any children.

Posted by: Mætenloch at May 17, 2011 02:36 PM (pAlYe)

Are those English peas in your pants, or are you just happy to see me?

Posted by: Zombie Gerry Studds at May 17, 2011 10:38 AM (1fanL)

204

completely off-topic but funny (not funny ha ha):

"Now hereÂ’s a novel idea: if you want to encourage density in your metro area, bribe people.

"Perhaps that’s too strong a word. But the “Live Near Your Work” pilot program in Washington, D.C. aims to do just that by soliciting applications (.pdf) from people to receive grants of $12,000 — $6,000 from their employer, $6,000 from the city — to help with a down payment or closing costs to move closer to their place of employment or public transit.

The goal is noble: preserve and revitalize neighborhoods in the district through leverage, by tempting folks who use vehicles to commute to give them up. The idea is to reverse some of the auto-driven sprawl seen in some major metropolitan areas that are dense enough to support greater public transit use but, for reasons of history or development or transportation culture of the last 50 years, donÂ’t."

(obviously Wash DC must be overflowing with bucks to throw around.)

and now an opinion from someone who doesn't understand why well paid bureaucrats don't want to live in a crime-ridden city):

"How about this as an alternative: Higher taxes on downtown parking garages, and the revenue reduces residential property taxes? Or if the problem is that affordable housing is scarce near Metro stations, how about rezone for denser building near the stations? Meanwhile, it actually seems to me that Metro is super-crowded at rush hours and that on the Red, Blue, and Orange lines we have very little ability to increase rush hour capacity. We really ought to be thinking about building more Metro lines unless weÂ’re expecting population growth to halt." (Getting punched around the other day doesn't seem to have made Matt Yglesias any smarter.)

 

 

Posted by: mallfly at May 17, 2011 10:39 AM (bJm7W)

205

"Hasta la vista, Baby"

as he pulls into Planned Parenthood

 

Posted by: Jimi at May 17, 2011 10:39 AM (JMsOK)

206 Steroids only make you temporarily infertile. If it were permanent, then pretty much no athletes would have any children.

Posted by: Mætenloch at May 17, 2011 02:36 PM (pAlYe)


I just figured their wives cheated.

Posted by: momma at May 17, 2011 10:39 AM (penCf)

207
They're just pissed because the leftists have smaller dicks.

Wanna bet?

Posted by: Janet Reno at May 17, 2011 10:40 AM (Klxrr)

208 Pumping Lupita

Posted by: TexasJew at May 17, 2011 10:40 AM (L8Let)

209 OT: Does anyone know which conservative bloggers were on this conference call w/Gingrich today?

G. Pundit is talking about it and I'd be interested to know who exactly was on that call.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 17, 2011 10:40 AM (pLTLS)

210 27 If all rumors are true, what about the one that the current president is gay.

Posted by: mark at May 17, 2011 01:57 PM (Kmc+C)

 

 

Yeah, why wasn't Hillary's Army able to dig up any of Odumbo's ex-girlfriends, scorned female lovers and the like??  NOT ONE sistah came forward to parade around the media claiming to be one of Odumbo's former lovers?? Ever notice that?? NOT ONE!!

Posted by: Chellita at May 17, 2011 10:40 AM (9BzDU)

211
He's suffering a schizoid embolism, I can't snap him out of his fantasy. I was sent here to try to talk him down.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 17, 2011 10:40 AM (QMtmy)

212 Wanna bet?

Posted by: Janet Reno at May 17, 2011 02:40 PM (Klxrr)

Damn that water's cold.

Posted by: Justice Kagan at May 17, 2011 10:41 AM (1fanL)

213 One wonders why he did that?  Confessing his sins off the cuff has to be incredibly stupid. There has to be more to the story.

Posted by: Vic at May 17, 2011 01:50 PM (M9Ie6)

He's a liberal. Cheating in liberal marriages is just accepted as a price to access to money. Maria could care less about cheating. He did it because it's public and she pretty much has to divorce him. He wanted out. I guess he got tired of banging a woman that looks like Alan Colmes.

Posted by: Rocks at May 17, 2011 10:41 AM (Q1lie)

214 Outside of Linda Ronstadt on major drug dependency, who'd wanna fuck Jerrry Brown?

Posted by: TexasJew at May 17, 2011 10:41 AM (L8Let)

215 ""Another situation that could have been avoided with Ass To Mouth™.""




I want to know where this fucking Empire is, because when shit hits the fan I'm going to be moving my troops and supplies there. lol

Posted by: Berserker at May 17, 2011 10:42 AM (FMbng)

216

Does Bill Maher know there's a rumor going around about him that he's a contemptible, talentless midget jackass?

Does that contemptible, talentless midget jackass Bill Maher know that someone's spreading rumors about him being a comedian?

Posted by: Colonel Klink at May 17, 2011 10:42 AM (bD7Ii)

217 Has there ever been a Kennedy woman who hasn't been cheated on?

Posted by: Kal Penn at May 17, 2011 10:42 AM (UOM48)

218 Ahnold seems to have man up big time on this one, he asks for critcism but asks for his family to be let alone. He says there are no excuses, and takes responsibilty. Pretty classy compared to the way other politicos like say...John Edwards, handle a scandal like this.

Posted by: YRM (Go Bolts!) at May 17, 2011 10:42 AM (UzBwz)

219

Damn that water's cold.

Posted by: Justice Kagan

Deep too!

Posted by: Michelle Obama at May 17, 2011 10:42 AM (Klxrr)

220 stupid sock

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 10:42 AM (UOM48)

221 Set phasers to Off Sock.

Posted by: Minuteman at May 17, 2011 10:43 AM (bD7Ii)

222 Yeah, why wasn't Hillary's Army able to dig up any of Odumbo's ex-girlfriends, scorned female lovers and the like??  NOT ONE sistah came forward to parade around the media claiming to be one of Odumbo's former lovers?? Ever notice that?? NOT ONE!!

Much like Tom Cruise, I think he had them all sign non-disclosure agreements.  If they talk, he'll sue them... he'll sue them in England.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 17, 2011 10:43 AM (UvFnc)

223 194 There are countless sleezeball Repubs that have had affairs, please stop bringing up Clinton. Getting old. Posted by: GONZOTX at May 17, 2011 02:33 PM (ExKx3) Wait. How many Republicans squeakholed an intern with a cigar while sitting in the Oval Office? Yes, many Washington pols have screwed around, no news there. Billy Jeff is the MVP of all of them. Jizzing on Monica in the Oval Office puts him in the most exclusive club of all. The Mile High Club isn't even close. Please, don't lump BJ in with mere Republicans. Show him a little respect, he deserves to stand alone.

Posted by: Joejm65 at May 17, 2011 10:43 AM (BDB5n)

224 There are countless sleezeball Repubs that have had affairs, please stop bringing up Clinton. Getting old. Posted by: GONZOTX at May 17, 2011 02:33 PM (ExKx3)

Fucking A!

Posted by: John Edwards at May 17, 2011 10:44 AM (3Okgs)

225 I said, 'I'll be back' NOT 'I'll cum on your back'

Posted by: Arnold at May 17, 2011 10:44 AM (penCf)

226 Please, don't lump BJ in with mere Republicans. Show him a little respect, he deserves to stand alone.

Posted by: Joejm65 at May 17, 2011 02:43 PM (BDB5n)

Let's not get carried away, shall we?

Posted by: JFK at May 17, 2011 10:44 AM (1fanL)

227 Hey don't forget about me!  My boyfriend ran a brothel from my bedroom!

Posted by: Barney 'I like' Frank at May 17, 2011 10:45 AM (penCf)

228

Posted by: GONZOTX at May 17, 2011 02:33 PM (ExKx3)

how many were President and lied under oath about it and thus were impeached for that and was saved by just that much from being taken out of office?

i'm more nice to Clinton's record then most morons here but it wasn;t about him cheating, he did something that had anyone else done they would have been thrown in prison

Posted by: YRM (Go Bolts!) at May 17, 2011 10:45 AM (UzBwz)

229 #8 - exactly. There's a lot more to this story than is being released.....I suspect many of the help were polishing more than just the furniture... Schwarzenegger is a Republican like a Honey Badger is a pacifist.

Posted by: Cheri at May 17, 2011 10:45 AM (oiNtH)

230 231 There are countless sleezeball Repubs that have had affairs, please stop bringing up Clinton. Getting old. Posted by: GONZOTX at May 17, 2011 02:33 PM (ExKx3)

word

Posted by: dead Kennedy men at May 17, 2011 10:45 AM (UOM48)

231 Ahnold seems to have man up big time on this one, he asks for critcism but asks for his family to be let alone. He says there are no excuses, and takes responsibilty. Pretty classy compared to the way other politicos like say...John Edwards, handle a scandal like this.

Posted by: YRM (Go Bolts!)

A potentially hostile baby mommy, DNA testing and a ten year record of payments makes one man up big time. Real man or cornered rat? Or both? Let's go to Vegas for the odds.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2011 10:45 AM (Gzv/o)

232

fyi - the last Republican President to have screwed a young girl while in office was Warren Harding.

He preferred fucking them in coat closets.

Posted by: TexasJew at May 17, 2011 10:45 AM (L8Let)

233 223 Has there ever been a Kennedy woman who hasn't been cheated on?>>>>>>>> Which one was forced to have a lobotomy? She probably wasn't cheated on. She was CHEATED alright, but not, you know, on.

Posted by: Joejm65 at May 17, 2011 10:46 AM (BDB5n)

234 You think I married Eleanor for her looks?

Posted by: FDR at May 17, 2011 10:46 AM (Klxrr)

235 @240  Wasn't that Rosemary?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 10:47 AM (UOM48)

236 What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women. Of course, knocking up one of the maids is pretty good, too.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 17, 2011 10:47 AM (b0BN0)

237 There are countless sleezeball Repubs that have had affairs, please stop bringing up Clinton. Getting old. Posted by: GONZOTX at May 17, 2011 02:33 PM (ExKx3)

Spoken like someone whose god-daughter's then 13 year old sister didn't come up to him and ask "What's a blowjob?" during the entire affair.

Posted by: Maria Shiver at May 17, 2011 10:47 AM (GKQDR)

238 There are countless sleezeball Repubs that have had affairs, please stop bringing up Clinton. Getting old. Posted by: GONZOTX at May 17, 2011 02:33 PM (ExKx3)

I for one think that tales of prior imperfections are highly overblown......overblown....I'll be in my residence. I hear that tonight's 2-for-1 night.

Posted by: Rep Barney Frank at May 17, 2011 10:47 AM (Gzv/o)

239 Has there ever been a Kennedy woman who hasn't been cheated on?

Well, they only fucked with my brain, so it wasn't really cheating....

Posted by: Rosemary Kennedy at May 17, 2011 10:47 AM (3Okgs)

240 Out damn sock....

Posted by: Stateless Canadian Infidel at May 17, 2011 10:47 AM (GKQDR)

241 Arnold has been grabbing every piece of ass he could get his hand on since he first set foot in this country for his bodybuilding career 40 years ago. Not surprised one bit. I was surprised he ever got electedconsidering some of the stories

Posted by: brak at May 17, 2011 10:48 AM (yq+M3)

242

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2011 02:45 PM (Gzv/o)

did I ever make excuses for him? Hell I threw in a shot at his horrible accent in my comment, i'm just saying compared to other politicos whp trot out their wives, lie under oath, or have staffers claim to be the baby daddy, he's handling this much more classy then others.

Posted by: YRM (Go Bolts!) at May 17, 2011 10:48 AM (UzBwz)

243 Outside of Linda Ronstadt on major drug dependency, who'd wanna fuck Jerrry Brown?

That Linda Ronstadt fling was a beard. There was no sex involved. She didn't have the right kind of junk between her legs.

Posted by: Vic at May 17, 2011 10:48 AM (M9Ie6)

244 Newt's Conference Call:

Short listing, probably not comprehensive (Ed Morrissey, Red Country, Guy Benson)

Posted by: Arnold S. at May 17, 2011 10:49 AM (9hSKh)

245 OT

You know we are the racist, homophobic assholes?

Well Don 'I'm Gay!' Lemon, begs to differ:

Asked by Behar about the “down low,” a term used to describe a subculture in the black community where men identify as straight but have sex with men, Lemon said “I don’t really know about the down low because I haven’t played that game. I know of it.” Lemon said the down low persists because of significant bias against gay men in the black church, black families and elsewhere. “It’s because, in black culture, the worst thing you can be really is a gay man. Hopefully people like me will make it better…the black community needs to get over that.”

LINK

Posted by: Barney 'I like' Frank at May 17, 2011 10:49 AM (penCf)

246 Marriage is a bulwark of civilization.  Hittin' a piece on the side ain't bad either.

Posted by: Stuff Jefferson Said, Vol. XIX at May 17, 2011 10:49 AM (1fanL)

247 reading all the comments on the entertainment site, it seems no one was surprised and they think she has know and has stayed even though she knew which makes me wonder if now, she's thinking of running and taking back the family senate seat and he's a liability for her.  She moved out of the mansion.  I'm wondering if she moved the kids out with her or left them with him?

Posted by: curious at May 17, 2011 10:49 AM (k1rwm)

248 244 There are countless sleezeball Repubs that have had affairs, please stop bringing up Clinton. Getting old. Posted by: GONZOTX at May 17, 2011 02:33 PM (ExKx3)

Ah, yes.  I remember little D'oh Boy coming home from school one day and asking me what a blow job was.  I nearly passed out.  After his dad explained things, the kid was totally grossed out and hated Clinton from that day forward.  In his words, "The President's nasty!"  Good times.  Not.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 10:50 AM (UOM48)

249 They're making another Arnold documentary called Pumping Irene.

Posted by: polynikes at May 17, 2011 10:50 AM (3hdsA)

250

***Exclusive to AceOfSpadesHQ***

Exclusive video of Arnold Schwarzenegger just TEN MINUTES after banging the maid!!!: (safe for work)

http://tinyurl.com/2wdcmrs


 

 

Posted by: JDW at May 17, 2011 10:51 AM (uw+0A)

251 #252 was mine.

Sorry, it's hard to take your socks off when your hands are busy.

Posted by: momma at May 17, 2011 10:52 AM (penCf)

252

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2011 02:45 PM (Gzv/o)

did I ever make excuses for him? Hell I threw in a shot at his horrible accent in my comment, i'm just saying compared to other politicos whp trot out their wives, lie under oath, or have staffers claim to be the baby daddy, he's handling this much more classy then others.

Posted by: YRM (Go Bolts!)

 

I didn't say you did. I said that unlike Edwards, the baby mommie  is possibly hostile, and probably no longer aiding in the cover up. The horse that Edwards mounted actively helped, as did the media. Hell, for all we know, either Maria or the husband blew the whistle. Therefore, it may not have been manliness but the words of someone with few options.

 

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2011 10:52 AM (Gzv/o)

253

 But the “Live Near Your Work” pilot program in Washington, D.C. aims to do just that by soliciting applications (.pdf) from people to receive grants of $12,000 — $6,000 from their employer, $6,000 from the city — to help with a down payment or closing costs to move closer to their place of employment or public transit.

*sigh*

I'm old enough to remember when you could work for twenty years at the same company. Way back then, you did live close to work. Today, if you work for anyone longer than five years, you're an old timer. You buy a home and then have to find another job somewhere else because of the volatility of business, so you're not nearly as close to work as you used to be.

Another thing we used to do by ourselves without a government program, back when we had an economy.

*sigh*

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 17, 2011 10:52 AM (d0Tfm)

254

Hear the lamentation of the women! Ja, Maher, dat includes you!

http://tinyurl.com/2g5b2v9

Posted by: Conan the Inseminarian at May 17, 2011 10:52 AM (XthHy)

255 Newt should do the honorable thing and simply choke to death on his own vomit.

Posted by: TexasJew at May 17, 2011 10:53 AM (L8Let)

256 242 @240  Wasn't that Rosemary? Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 02:47 PM (UOM4 >>>>>>>>> I'm not sure. I don't think she's sure, either. Do people who have lobotomies know they've had lobotomies? Let's all get high and think about THAT one....

Posted by: Joejm65 at May 17, 2011 10:54 AM (BDB5n)

257 Marriage is a bulwark of civilization.  Hittin' a piece on the side ain't bad either.

Posted by: Stuff Jefferson Said, Vol. XIX

 

Hiring it is nice. Owning it? Priceless.

Posted by: Stuff Jefferson said that won't appear on the monument at May 17, 2011 10:54 AM (Gzv/o)

258

I'm having a hard time deciding who is more irrelevant: Arnold or Bill Mahr?

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at May 17, 2011 02:54 PM (OWjjx)

Hi guys!

Posted by: Mike Huckabee at May 17, 2011 10:55 AM (XthHy)

259 O/T:  Over at NRO, Jim Geraghty points out what happened the last time Newt "Wait, what party am I?" Gingrich bucked his 'fellows'.  I need not remind it wasn't pretty.

Amusingly, the ReCaptcha for commenting read: "that hurts"...

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 17, 2011 10:55 AM (GBXon)

260 They're making another Arnold documentary called Pumping Irene.

Theme song:  "Come On Irene"

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 17, 2011 10:56 AM (QMtmy)

261 If Maria is like most Kennedy women, she spends half the time jinked out of her mind on martinis and benzodiazepines. If I were Arnold, I'd have hit the Trifuckta with the maid AND Maria. "You knocked up our MAID?!" "Yep. ROLL TAPE... See, here's you choking Lupe with a teal belt while I dumptruck your pooter. And here's you behind me, pushing me INTO Lupe like a car door that won't shut."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 17, 2011 10:56 AM (+61wI)

262 At least the maid didn't die of an "accidental" drug overdose.  Or something.

Posted by: Zombie Marilyn Monroe at May 17, 2011 10:56 AM (UOM48)

263 OY:

Brad Pitt: Christian upbringing was 'stifling'

“I got brought up being told things were God's way, and when things didn't work out, it was called God's plan," Pitt told reporters at the film’s premiere at the Cannes Film Festival. "I've got my issues with it. Don't get me started. I found it very stifling."

...
"I always had a lot of questions about the world, even in kindergarten,” Pitt told Parade magazine several years ago. “A big question to me was fairness. If I'd grown up in some other religion, would I get the same shot at heaven as a Christian has?"
...
When I got untethered from the comfort of religion, it wasn't a loss of faith for me, it was a discovery of self,” explained Pitt. “I had faith that I'm capable enough to handle any situation. There's peace in understanding that I have only one life, here and now, and I'm responsible."

Posted by: momma at May 17, 2011 10:57 AM (penCf)

264 I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

Posted by: Teddy Kennedy at May 17, 2011 10:57 AM (1fanL)

265 When I got untethered from the comfort of religion, it wasn't a loss of faith for me, it was a discovery of self,” explained Pitt. “I had faith that I'm capable enough to handle any situation. There's peace in understanding that I have only one life, here and now, and I'm responsible."

Posted by: momma at May 17, 2011 02:57 PM (penCf)

So for all that, he gets a bisexual wife?

Posted by: TexasJew at May 17, 2011 10:58 AM (L8Let)

266 Sex? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at May 17, 2011 10:59 AM (d0Tfm)

267 This thread is Instant Classic Ace of Spades. Is anyone collecting these one liners for "The Arnold Joke Book"?

Posted by: Minuteman at May 17, 2011 10:59 AM (bD7Ii)

268 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 17, 2011 02:56 PM (+61wI)


Thanks.  Iced tea + keyboard.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 11:00 AM (UOM48)

269 Hello cutie-pie.  One of us is in big trouble! 

Posted by: Arnold S. at May 17, 2011 11:00 AM (9hSKh)

270 So it turns out Arnie really is a strudel hund afterall.

Posted by: Speller at May 17, 2011 11:02 AM (J74Py)

271 As expected, poor Lou Ferrigno had to settle for the harelipped pizza delivery girl.

Posted by: TexasJew at May 17, 2011 11:02 AM (L8Let)

272 —Ace

"I can't believe this!" I exclaimed about something else entirely.

Hahahahaha!


Posted by: Rabbi Bloody Mary at May 17, 2011 11:02 AM (x/4B/)

273 274 So for all that, he gets a bisexual wife? Posted by: TexasJew at May 17, 2011 02:58 PM (L8Let)>>>>> Eh. Anne Heche is a bisexual wife. Angelina J. is hitting the lottery.

Posted by: Joejm65 at May 17, 2011 11:02 AM (BDB5n)

274 Speaking of The Running Man, by 2017, the world economy will have collapsed.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 17, 2011 11:03 AM (9hSKh)

275 When I got untethered from the comfort of religion, it wasn't a loss of faith for me, it was a discovery of self,” explained Pitt. “I had faith that I'm capable enough to handle any situation. There's peace in understanding that I have only one life, here and now, and I'm responsible."

Posted by: momma at May 17, 2011 02:57 PM (penCf)

Another Spinoza in the making...

Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 17, 2011 11:03 AM (136wp)

276 Eh. Anne Heche is a bisexual wife. Angelina J. is hitting the lottery.

Posted by: Joejm65 at May 17, 2011 03:02 PM (BDB5n)

Enjoy my sloppy seconds!

Posted by: Billy Bob at May 17, 2011 11:03 AM (1fanL)

277 Has anyone wondered that since Brown won Teddy's seat, the Kennedy magic has lost some of its shine? For a guy like Arnold, who is a former Govenor, having a Kennedy wife really does little for him politically, socially or sexually. I know from acquaintances that know Maria, that she is extremely dense.

Posted by: Sub-tard Goober at May 17, 2011 11:04 AM (Q5+Og)

278 The undoubtedly undocumented maid was just doing the work that regular Americans won't do.

Posted by: Abdullah Oblongata at May 17, 2011 11:04 AM (9BzDU)

279 Posted by: Sub-tard Goober at May 17, 2011 03:04 PM (Q5+Og)

maria's not dense.  You're thinking of Caroline.

Posted by: curious at May 17, 2011 11:06 AM (k1rwm)

280 When I got untethered from the comfort of religion, it wasn't a loss of faith for me, it was a discovery of self,” explained Pitt. “I had faith that I'm capable enough to handle any situation. There's peace in understanding that I have only one life, here and now, and I'm responsible."

Posted by: momma at May 17, 2011 02:57 PM (penCf)

Not sure why he thinks this replaces religion.  I'm pretty sure God wants everyone to be responsible and capable.

Posted by: Tami at May 17, 2011 11:06 AM (VuLos)

281 As expected, poor Lou Ferrigno had to settle for the harelipped pizza delivery girl That's weally fucked up. And totawy untwue.

Posted by: Lou Fewwigno at May 17, 2011 11:06 AM (OW0nw)

282 Sorry, it's hard to take your socks off when your hands are busy.

Posted by: momma

SO many ways that can be interperted wrong. Especially with an ONT mindset.

Posted by: Ghengis Khan at May 17, 2011 11:07 AM (fPOY0)

283

So for all that, he gets a bisexual wife?

Posted by: TexasJew at May 17, 2011 02:58 PM (L8Let)

 

And an ever-growing international orphanage to raise.

Posted by: Chellita at May 17, 2011 11:07 AM (9BzDU)

284 When I got untethered from the comfort of religion, it wasn't a loss of faith for me, it was a discovery of self,” explained Pitt. “I had faith that I'm capable enough to handle any situation. There's peace in understanding that I have only one life, here and now, and I'm responsible."

Translation:  No worrying about repercussions for moral choices.

Opinions on religion are a very personal thing--which I respect.  But I can't help but notice a pattern--when they feel no constraints from a Hereafter, they observe no limits here.  And I must argue this has not, on the whole, been a good thing...

Individual results may vary.  But the trend is still there.

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 17, 2011 11:07 AM (GBXon)

285 Former Governor credited with no decisive leadership while state sped toward financial ruin discovered to have illegitimate child fathered prior to gaining office? Sorry Ace; even with the media told us back then rumor angle, this scores a 9.5 on the "meh" scale.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at May 17, 2011 11:07 AM (4JB66)

286 283 Speaking of The Running Man, by 2017, the world economy will have collapsed.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 17, 2011 03:03 PM (9hSKh)

And yet Richard Dawson still lives..

Posted by: TexasJew at May 17, 2011 11:07 AM (L8Let)

287 255

Does that contemptible, talentless midget jackass Bill Maher know that someone's spreading rumors about him being a comedian?

Posted by: Colonel Klink at May 17, 2011 02:42 PM (bD7Ii)

Yeah I know about that rumor because I'm the one who's been trying to spread it for decades.

Posted by: Contemptible, Talentless Midget Jackass Bill Maher at May 17, 2011 11:08 AM (bD7Ii)

288 286 Has anyone wondered that since Brown won Teddy's seat, the Kennedy magic has lost some of its shine? For a guy like Arnold, who is a former Govenor, having a Kennedy wife really does little for him politically, socially or sexually. I know from acquaintances that know Maria, that she is extremely dense.>>>>>>> I think the Kennedy magic lost some of it's shine when Uncle Ted drowned Mary Jo. And got away with it. And proceeded to serve 40 years in the Senate as a hero.

Posted by: Joejm65 at May 17, 2011 11:08 AM (BDB5n)

289 85 What a disgrace to the Kennedy name. You don't buy off mistresses, you date-rape 'em and drown them in a Buick. Or deny that shit at your rape trial while demanding her identity be released. Or give 'em a double fistful of Qualuudes to snack on and then tell Joe DiMaggio, "Hey, that totally sucks, bro."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 17, 2011 02:10 PM (FI38b)


It was an Oldsmobile and she drowned before I got any.  Try get the facts right, wingnut.

Posted by: Commodore Teddy at May 17, 2011 11:08 AM (Xv7f/)

290 291 Sorry, it's hard to take your socks off when your hands are busy.

Posted by: momma

SO many ways that can be interperted wrong. Especially with an ONT mindset.

Posted by: Ghengis Khan

GAHHHH, sock-fu fail

Posted by: todler at May 17, 2011 11:08 AM (fPOY0)

291

I live in California and I can't tell you how much I don't care about this.

Arnold is out of office.

Jerry: what are you doing about the $15 billion deficit we have? What programs and offices are you going to cut? What cuts to welfare will you enact to save billions? When will California finally enact welfare reform?

Do we really need a Bureau of Home Furnishings?

Dude.

 

Posted by: Scott at May 17, 2011 11:09 AM (S3AFi)

292 Not sure why he thinks this replaces religion.  I'm pretty sure God wants everyone to be responsible and capable.

Yes but God sets the standard of what is responsible at a higher bar than Brad want's to reach. This way brad gets to arbitrarily set his own bar.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 17, 2011 11:09 AM (tf9Ne)

293

@223: "Has there ever been a Kennedy woman who hasn't been cheated on?"

Rosemary just got mindfucked.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 17, 2011 11:09 AM (xy9wk)

294

I'm having a hard time deciding who is more irrelevant: Arnold or Bill Mahr?

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at May 17, 2011 02:54 PM (OWjjx)

Hi guys!

Posted by: Mike Huckabee at May 17, 2011 02:55 PM (XthHy)

 

Don't forget me!

Posted by: Newt Gingrich at May 17, 2011 11:10 AM (LgItj)

295 The LA Times is still protecting Obama, although not over sex charges.  They are still sitting on that video from 2007 or early '08 where he is at some banquet honoring some muslim with Hamas connections.  There is no earthly reason not to release the actual tape now - unless there is something damaging on it.  Same thing with CBS, they are also sitting on video footage of The One they won't show.

Posted by: Adjoran at May 17, 2011 11:10 AM (VfmLu)

296 Don't forget me!

Royalties, please.

Posted by: Simple Minds at May 17, 2011 11:11 AM (fsGgs)

297

Ah, yes.  I remember little D'oh Boy coming home from school one day and asking me what a blow job was.  I nearly passed out.  After his dad explained things, the kid was totally grossed out and hated Clinton from that day forward.  In his words, "The President's nasty!"  Good times.  Not.

Well yours truly Ms. Cheri had the same delightful experience.  Prior to driving my little Cherries to school one day, they asked their mother what a BJ was to which I did answer them.  Like little D'oh Boy, they too were grossed out and my daughter  then had to ask  "You never did that, did you mom?!"  That question I did not answer - I hurried them to the car.   Hard to maintain any dignity that day.

Posted by: Cheri at May 17, 2011 11:11 AM (oiNtH)

298

OT:

Fate granting California and the rest of the idiot U.S. left a rare opportunity.

A chance to watch doom happen before it happens to them.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at May 17, 2011 11:12 AM (jx2j9)

299 "Remember when I said I'd use a condom... I lied!"

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 17, 2011 11:12 AM (b0BN0)

300

288 Posted by: Sub-tard Goober at May 17, 2011 03:04 PM (Q5+Og)

maria's not dense.  You're thinking of Caroline.

No. I'm talking about Maria. Used to rent an apartment from a former CBS News camera man who had the task of breaking Maria into the news business. His stories were pretty funny. What would normally take 5 minutes to shoot would turn into hours of rehersal for her to read a couple of sentences for her report.

With respect to Caroline, her words alone tell the story. And then there was that Kennedy chick running for MD Lt Gov. Shoosh. I was unaware of the amount of inbreeding within Irish community. Just sayin.

Posted by: Sub-tard Goober at May 17, 2011 11:12 AM (Q5+Og)

301 293 When I got untethered from the comfort of religion, it wasn't a loss of faith for me, it was a discovery of self,” explained Pitt. “I had faith that I'm capable enough to handle any situation. There's peace in understanding that I have only one life, here and now, and I'm responsible."

Translation:  No worrying about repercussions for moral choices.

Opinions on religion are a very personal thing--which I respect.  But I can't help but notice a pattern--when they feel no constraints from a Hereafter, they observe no limits here.  And I must argue this has not, on the whole, been a good thing...

Individual results may vary.  But the trend is still there.

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 17, 2011 03:07 PM (GBXon)

I think this focus on  Heaven removes the real reason (for believers, that is) to worship God. We should worship God because He is God (and what that means).

Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 17, 2011 11:14 AM (136wp)

302 256 244 There are countless sleezeball Repubs that have had affairs, please stop bringing up Clinton. Getting old. Posted by: GONZOTX at May 17, 2011 02:33 PM (ExKx3)

Ah, yes.  I remember little D'oh Boy coming home from school one day and asking me what a blow job was.  I nearly passed out.  After his dad explained things, the kid was totally grossed out and hated Clinton from that day forward.  In his words, "The President's nasty!"  Good times.  Not.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 02:50 PM (UOM4

Same thing happened here, Jane. Many children learned how not to have sex while having sex after this news. Hubby had to have "the" talk with boys. Years later, a Dimmicrat childless attorney I knew scoffed at the idea, but it was true.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at May 17, 2011 11:15 AM (FnRYN)

303 According to a Daily Beast article, Maria told Arnold to move out after he broke the news to her about the kid. He refused to leave, so she left and moved into a hotel. Good for you, Arnie. You fuck the maid, spawn a love child, and when your wife tells you to leave, you basically tell her to go screw. It's too bad you weren't this awesome as Governor, I might have liked you just a little bit more...

Posted by: Joejm65 at May 17, 2011 11:15 AM (BDB5n)

304 Yeah clinton fucked up big time. His lying about it was where he fucked up.

I feel like an asshole, but I just fucking giggle when I think of the SHEER balls of it. I spent most of my adult life as a musician, and I did some crazy fucking shit with a total "bill and ted's excellent adventure" attitude. I have stories man, and I know if I was in that fucking oval office, my demented brain would have HAD to give a high five to the founders by bending some chick over that fancy desk. Of course I probably would have turned the bust of Churchill around so he couldn't see, but holy shit.  Yeah, I know......I know.

Posted by: Berserker at May 17, 2011 11:15 AM (FMbng)

305 Posted by: Cheri at May 17, 2011 03:11 PM (oiNtH) Sinner.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 17, 2011 11:15 AM (+61wI)

306 This is bullshit! Let's see a birth certificate!

Posted by: also irrelevant Donald Trump at May 17, 2011 11:16 AM (XthHy)

307 304 The LA Times is still protecting Obama, although not over sex charges.  They are still sitting on that video from 2007 or early '08 where he is at some banquet honoring some muslim with Hamas connections.  There is no earthly reason not to release the actual tape now - unless there is something damaging on it.  Same thing with CBS, they are also sitting on video footage of The One they won't show.
  The LAT also is sitting on some audio/video of Michelle at some black funcition. It is rumored that Michelle was extremely vocal in her dislike of whitey. This was before Michelle was proud of her country - so it is okay.

Posted by: Sub-tard Goober at May 17, 2011 11:16 AM (Q5+Og)

308 Oh yeah, I wouldn't have done it as the prez, but more from somebody who just happened to wander in there when nobody was looking.

Posted by: Berserker at May 17, 2011 11:17 AM (FMbng)

309

OT, but is this something?  Via Bryan Preston at PJ Tatler:

Is Obama planning to call on Israel to retreat to its 1967 borders?

According to Yedioth Ahronoth, Obama will call on Israel to withdraw to the 1967 cease-fire lines with territorial adjustments that will be agreed on in the negotiations with the Palestinian National Authority. The president will label the West Bank settlements as “illegal” and emphasize that Israel must halt their construction.

I don't know how much stock I put in the rumors, given that they're "filtered through the Chinese press."  But even the hint of a rumor of this sort tells me that there's a grain of truth in it.

Posted by: MWR at May 17, 2011 11:17 AM (4df7R)

310 Yes but God sets the standard of what is responsible at a higher bar than Brad want's to reach. This way brad gets to arbitrarily set his own bar.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 17, 2011 03:09 PM (tf9Ne)

Oh, so this is just his fancy way of saying, 'I'm a liberal'?

Posted by: Tami at May 17, 2011 11:18 AM (VuLos)

311 Opinions on religion are a very personal thing--which I respect.  But I can't help but notice a pattern--when they feel no constraints from a Hereafter, they observe no limits here.  And I must argue this has not, on the whole, been a good thing...

Individual results may vary.  But the trend is still there.

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 17, 2011 03:07 PM (GBXon)

I think this focus on  Heaven removes the real reason (for believers, that is) to worship God. We should worship God because He is God (and what that means).

Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 17, 2011 03:14 PM (136wp)

 

Oh boy!  We're going to be discussing politics and religion.  What could go wrong?

 

 

Posted by: Soona at May 17, 2011 11:19 AM (LgItj)

312 Maria in an interview with Orca:

I married a bodybuilder who became an actor and lived in California. No one thought, "Well, there's somebody who'll go into politics." I don't think I'd ever even met a Republican before I met Arnold.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 11:20 AM (UOM48)

313 I don't think I'd ever even met a Republican before I met Arnold.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 03:20 PM (UOM4

Psst, Maria....you still haven't.

Posted by: Tami at May 17, 2011 11:21 AM (VuLos)

314 "...when they feel no constraints from a Hereafter, they observe no limits here..." 

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 17, 2011 03:07 PM (GBXon)

I disagree. Many people who have little or no attachment to the idea of a hereafter act morally throughout their lives. Religion can codify morality, and that is a wonderful benefit independent of any belief in its afterlife.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 17, 2011 11:21 AM (LH6ir)

315 I don't think I'd ever even met a Republican before I met Arnold.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 03:20 PM (UOM4

Maria honey, I have news for you.  Arnold ain't a Republican.

Posted by: MWR at May 17, 2011 11:21 AM (4df7R)

316

321 Maria in an interview with Orca:

I married a bodybuilder who became an actor and lived in California. No one thought, "Well, there's somebody who'll go into politics." I don't think I'd ever even met a Republican before I met Arnold.

 

Like I said - dense.

Posted by: Sub-tard Goober at May 17, 2011 11:22 AM (Q5+Og)

317 According to Yedioth Ahronoth, Obama will call on Israel to withdraw to the 1967 cease-fire lines with territorial adjustments that will be agreed on in the negotiations with the Palestinian National Authority. The president will label the West Bank settlements as “illegal” and emphasize that Israel must halt their construction. I don't know how much stock I put in the rumors, given that they're "filtered through the Chinese press." But even the hint of a rumor of this sort tells me that there's a grain of truth in it. Posted by: MWR at May 17, 2011 03:17 PM (4df7R) That's really not big news and pretty tame actually. That has been USA Policy for ever really

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 17, 2011 11:22 AM (i6RpT)

318 I think this focus on  Heaven removes the real reason (for believers, that is) to worship God. We should worship God because He is God (and what that means).

Not everybody can manage that.  For most folks who bother it tends to be a 'do this way because' sort of thing--perhaps not the healthiest approach to morality and ethics, but at least it puts some curb on our worst impulses.  And from what I've seen of history, nothing is scarier than humans with no 'limits'...

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 17, 2011 11:23 AM (GBXon)

319 Ace: "'All rumors are true.' That's wildly overstated, of course, but it is something I think is mostly true."

I've never heard that before. Sounds like a rumor.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 17, 2011 11:24 AM (DAEhL)

320 Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 03:20 PM (UOM4

Just consider for a moment how insular, parochial, stilted, and just plain boring that life must have been.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 17, 2011 11:24 AM (LH6ir)

321

"Obama will call on Israel"

 

Wow, we are going all Old Testament today.

Posted by: Sub-tard Goober at May 17, 2011 11:24 AM (Q5+Og)

322 Maria's comment about having not ever met a Republican until she met Arnold (D-Douchebag) is right up there with Moochelle and Orca chatting about neither of them having ever met anyone in the military. 

Libs.  What can ya say?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 11:25 AM (UOM48)

323

Oh boy!  We're going to be discussing politics and religion.  What could go wrong?

 

Posted by: Soona at May 17, 2011 03:19 PM (LgItj)

Let me tell you about my lumbago.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 17, 2011 11:25 AM (136wp)

324 So your life's in the crapper. So you wife is banging a used car salesman - it's humiliating, I know. But goddamnit, Harry, take it like a man!

Posted by: Tom Arnold, Star of True Lies at May 17, 2011 11:26 AM (qwK3S)

325 ""According to Yedioth Ahronoth, Obama will call on Israel to withdraw to the 1967 cease-fire lines with territorial adjustments that will be agreed on in the negotiations with the Palestinian National Authority. The president will label the West Bank settlements as “illegal” and emphasize that Israel must halt their construction.""


At which point I hope Israel sticks out their middle finger and says "Here barak, sit on this and rotate"

Posted by: Berserker at May 17, 2011 11:26 AM (FMbng)

326

Mr. Empire of Jeff, in the written portion of the job interview commications skills test we found your command of the English language to be off the charts, especially in regards to vocabulary and constructing word pictures in metaphor. However, your skills may be of better use in writing the fake letters to Penthouse Forum as opposed to writing the technical abstracts for NASA Journal of Applied Thermodynamics. An example of our hesitance would your description of the tri-linear relation of a missile's penetrating capability to it's size, shape, and thrust. 

  

Posted by: NASA Department of Human Resources, New Hires Branch at May 17, 2011 11:27 AM (bD7Ii)

327 Sorry, it's hard to take your socks off when your hands are busy.

This is so not covered under your warranty.

Posted by: Geek Squad guy examining broken mouse at May 17, 2011 11:27 AM (4KER5)

328 You know with all the swarm-y remarks about Arnold and his lover, people are overlooking the fact that maybe he fell in love with her.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 17, 2011 11:27 AM (136wp)

329 I disagree. Many people who have little or no attachment to the idea of a hereafter act morally throughout their lives. Religion can codify morality, and that is a wonderful benefit independent of any belief in its afterlife.

And many act to the contrary.  (Not a fan of 'many', it's so vague...)  It's possible I've just seen bad examples, but experience leaves me dubious to the proposition.

I guess I just like to know people believe in something where they have some boundaries.  It's an accountability thing I guess, if they don't believe anyone or anything holds them accountable...well, you get the picture.

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 17, 2011 11:28 AM (GBXon)

330

I guess I just like to know people believe in something where they have some boundaries.  It's an accountability thing I guess, if they don't believe anyone or anything holds them accountable...well, you get the picture.

 

Are you describing a sociopath or a community organizer? I'm confused.

Posted by: Sub-tard Goober at May 17, 2011 11:31 AM (Q5+Og)

331 OT I didn't make it to the previous thread about Eurocommies' disgust at our whacking Obama bin Laden. So here's my response: Fuck 'em.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 17, 2011 11:32 AM (1ckSh)

332 Another gem from Maria's interview with Orca:

Oprah: I remember being at the compound once, early on in our friendship. As an outsider, I thought, "God, I'm actually here on the lawn with all the Kennedy cousins." But the games never ended. I'll never forget being in the house and someone saying, "Where is she? Oprah, we're starting another game!" And I ran into a closet and closed the door because I'd already done three games—enough! It was all very intense.

Maria: It still is! It's competitive when you walk in the door. It's competitive at the table. It's competitive on the playing field. It's competitive in a boat. Even my mother is very competitive at everything—from checkers to Ping-Pong to sailing to politics. When I was a girl, she'd tell my father, "Tackle her as hard as you tackle the boys! Knock her down!" She'd tell him to serve the tennis ball at me as hard as he could. I couldn't even return it—it would knock the racquet out of my hand. I thought that was cool.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 11:32 AM (UOM48)

333 With the maid retiring and ...

Just how old is this chick?

Posted by: slug at May 17, 2011 11:32 AM (klF+/)

334 According to Yedioth Ahronoth, Obama will call on Israel to withdraw to the 1967 cease-fire lines with territorial adjustments that will be agreed on in the negotiations with the Palestinian National Authority. The president will label the West Bank settlements as “illegal” and emphasize that Israel must halt their construction.""


At which point I hope Israel sticks out their middle finger and says "Here barak, sit on this and rotate"

Posted by: Berserker at May 17, 2011 03:26 PM (FMbng)

 

The Pali's don't want land or a nation.  They've proven that over and over.  What they want is a massive quantity of dead Jews.  As long as the Pali's live in that region, there will never be peace.  Fuck the Palistinians.  They truly are the scum of the earth. 

Posted by: Soona at May 17, 2011 11:33 AM (LgItj)

335 Are you describing a sociopath or a community organizer? I'm confused.

There's a difference?

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 17, 2011 11:33 AM (GBXon)

336 Oh, and I still think that whoever waterboarded the terrorists at Gitmo should get a Nobel Peace Prize.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 17, 2011 11:34 AM (1ckSh)

337 According to Yedioth Ahronoth, Obama will call on Israel to withdraw to the 1967 cease-fire lines with territorial adjustments that will be agreed on in the negotiations with the Palestinian National Authority. The president will label the West Bank settlements as “illegal” and emphasize that Israel must halt their construction."

I guess old Gutsy Call will be calling on Russia to return Konigsberg to the Germans too, right? God forbid anyone lose territory in a fucking war they start.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 17, 2011 11:37 AM (fsGgs)

338 I couldn't even return it—it would knock the racquet out of my hand. I thought that was cool.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 03:32 PM (UOM4

I think he hit her in the head a time or two also.

Posted by: Tami at May 17, 2011 11:37 AM (VuLos)

339

In the pre-nup The Arnold read the word "coexist" as "coitus" with whatever moves in the mansion. Simple mistake, really.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at May 17, 2011 11:38 AM (FnRYN)

340

The Pali's don't want land or a nation.  They've proven that over and over.  What they want is a massive quantity of dead Jews.  As long as the Pali's live in that region, there will never be peace.  Fuck the Palistinians.  They truly are the scum of the earth. 

Posted by: Soona at May 17, 2011 03:33 PM (LgItj)

And after the destruction of the Jews they would come after us and on and on until the entire planet is back in the 7th century or whatever other shitty, ass-backwards existence they wish to devolve into.

 

Posted by: ErikW at May 17, 2011 11:38 AM (7KrHw)

341 "I can't believe this!" I exclaimed  ejaculated!1!1!! about something else entirely. FIFY

Posted by: zonbie Zane Grey at May 17, 2011 11:38 AM (le5qc)

342 when they feel no constraints from a Hereafter, they observe no limits here.

Religion can codify morality, and that is a wonderful benefit independent of any belief in its afterlife.

This is where I have a disagreement with the principled atheist. (That means you too Ayn) The concept of religion does more than simply codify morality, it fixes it in absolutism, rather than letting it slide on relativism. Most atheists with which you can discuss the topic will obviously bring up the red herring of murder, the agreed absolute evil, and stipulate quite rationally that they too could not even in a relativistic sense abide murder, and see therefore absolute wrongs still exist. But if you dig deeper, their rational justification for the position seems to hinge off of reciprocity (security in their own life for respecting others) and societal benefit (society thrives on stability), both of which benefits them. Since the stance overall benefits them personally rationally it can be supported logically. What most of the time they will not discuss is the fact that if they were the sole exception or part of a small group of exceptions to the common rules of morality, if such a system could be sustained, it would be much better for them personally. So logically, an atheist should be pushing, where possible, for moral rules to apply to everyone *but* themselves. Any other contemplation of a rational relative moral system is simply not logical.  

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at May 17, 2011 11:39 AM (0q2P7)

343 I guess old Gutsy Call will be calling on Russia to return Konigsberg to the Germans too, right? God forbid anyone lose territory in a fucking war they start.

I'd have bad news for the Muslims...

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 17, 2011 11:40 AM (GBXon)

344 Squeal!

Posted by: Arnold the Pig at May 17, 2011 11:40 AM (IXLvN)

345 So logically, an atheist should be pushing, where possible, for moral rules to apply to everyone *but* themselves. Any other contemplation of a rational relative moral system is simply not logical.

Waivers, anyone?

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 17, 2011 11:41 AM (GBXon)

346 I can promise you that when I go to Sacramento, I will pump up Sacramento. Arnold Schwarzenegger

Posted by: Actual campaign quote at May 17, 2011 11:43 AM (IXLvN)

347 I guess old Gutsy Call will be calling on Russia to return Konigsberg to the Germans too, right? God forbid anyone lose territory in a fucking war they start.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 17, 2011 03:37 PM (fsGgs)

THIS.

What really smokes me is again the implication that the Israeli settlements are "illegal."  I wuld not put such a statement past the likes of asshole Jugears McHoolihan.

Posted by: MWR at May 17, 2011 11:43 AM (4df7R)

348

352 I guess old Gutsy Call will be calling on Russia to return Konigsberg to the Germans too, right? God forbid anyone lose territory in a fucking war they start.

I'd have bad news for the Muslims...

 

Little confused here, isn't Konigsberg in Poland?

Posted by: Sub-tard Goober at May 17, 2011 11:45 AM (Q5+Og)

349 355 I can promise you that when I go to Sacramento, I will pump up Sacramento.

He certainly help pump-up (or little to slow down) the financial woes of Clownifornia. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 17, 2011 11:45 AM (9hSKh)

350 Little confused here, isn't Konigsberg in Poland?

I should have said 'for the Muslims, too', in reference to how Mo the Used Camel Salesman spread his little party around.  For one thing, Asia Minor would be changing hands under this principle...

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 17, 2011 11:46 AM (GBXon)

351

What really smokes me is again the implication that the Israeli settlements are "illegal."  I wuld not put such a statement past the likes of asshole Jugears McHoolihan.

Posted by: MWR at May 17, 2011 03:43 PM (4df7R)

 

What I do thank God for is that a person like Netenyahu has Israel's reigns of power right now and can tell the black king to go shit and fall back in it.

Posted by: Soona at May 17, 2011 11:48 AM (LgItj)

352

Please tell me this hasn't been used yet...

A shocked Maria confronts her husband: "so, have you ever f**ked anyone?"

Ahnold: "yes, but they were all bad."

 

Posted by: Mr. Fire at May 17, 2011 11:49 AM (TOk1P)

353

So we're still talking about Arnold? Oy.

Oh, well, I'm still giggling at somebody in the last thread (or so) calling Newt "Noot". Though I think the second O is silent.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 17, 2011 11:49 AM (XdlcF)

354 I hear the lactation of their women

Posted by: Conan the barbarian at May 17, 2011 11:50 AM (IXLvN)

355 Its time for a new thread. I am personally amazed that Arnold and Maria were able to gain 300+ comments. This does not portend well for Arnold's continued acting career or for a resurgence in Kennedy worship. The Times They Are A Changing.

Posted by: Sub-tard Goober at May 17, 2011 11:50 AM (Q5+Og)

356 So we're still talking about Arnold?

No, some of us have wandered off into the religion/philosophy minefield.  Figured it would be quieter there.

Besides, since Ace seems to be looking for a bottle of Valu-Rite he hasn't drained yet, it looks like we're on our own for a bit...

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 17, 2011 11:51 AM (GBXon)

357

What I do thank God for is that a person like Netenyahu has Israel's reigns of power right now and can tell the black king to go shit and fall back in it.

Posted by: Soona at May 17, 2011 03:48 PM (LgItj)

I don't know. I like the Bibi but what is he thinking making another trip to the White House on Friday?

Last time he walked, I think. I'm hoping this time he'll tell JEF to fuck himself.

Posted by: ErikW at May 17, 2011 11:52 AM (7KrHw)

358 Not everybody can manage that.  For most folks who bother it tends to be a 'do this way because' sort of thing--perhaps not the healthiest approach to morality and ethics, but at least it puts some curb on our worst impulses.  And from what I've seen of history, nothing is scarier than humans with no 'limits'...

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 17, 2011 03:23 PM (GBXon)

Yes, yes my child. What could be worse than a world without God's limits? I follow his word every day.

Posted by: Pastor Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church at May 17, 2011 11:55 AM (le5qc)

359 In my opinion an atheist living a life other than where they don't put everything in context of how it will benefit them first and foremost is illogical. Actually it's the basis for their flawed theory of survival of the fittest / natural selection.

Posted by: polynikes at May 17, 2011 11:55 AM (3hdsA)

360 Little confused here, isn't Konigsberg in Poland?

Nope, Russia. It's Kaliningrad now, in this weird-ass little pocket not physically connected to Mother Russia now that the Baltic States have split off.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 17, 2011 11:55 AM (fsGgs)

361

 it looks like we're on our own for a bit...

I could ask a question I'm mulling about dogs. That should hold us for several hours.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 17, 2011 11:55 AM (XdlcF)

362 No, some of us have wandered off into the religion/philosophy minefield.  Figured it would be quieter there.

It's addictive like that little minefield game you play on the computer.

It is also played just like it. Some try to avoid the mines some step on them on purpose and some walk into the field clueless.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 17, 2011 11:56 AM (tf9Ne)

363 Posted by: MikeTheMoose at May 17, 2011 03:39 PM (0q2P7) I tell atheists something similar all the time. "You should be on your knees thanking my God that I believe in Him. Because if I didn't fear His judgment, I'd kill you for the minor annoyance that this conversation is causing me. If we all decided on our own what was moral, you would be fucking dogmeat. Because I lust for your possessions, however meager and would happily play in your blood just to moisturize my fucking hands. Your nightmare, my fantasy. Empire of Jeff, fucker. Now, Peace be with you, asshole."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 17, 2011 11:56 AM (TATbF)

364 We were on a break.

Posted by: Ahnold at May 17, 2011 11:56 AM (3Okgs)

365 Count me in, Pastor Fred. A world with personal responsibility? Well I'll be a Koran burning cracker!1!!1

Posted by: Pastor Terry Jones at May 17, 2011 11:56 AM (le5qc)

366 "Bill Maher is a contemptible, talentless midget jackass."  Ah, the glories of the English language!

Posted by: Reidemandweep at May 17, 2011 11:56 AM (Q5RiE)

367

Last time he walked, I think. I'm hoping this time he'll tell JEF to fuck himself.

Posted by: ErikW at May 17, 2011 03:52 PM (7KrHw)

 

Well, after being purposely snubbed and then quietly expelled from the WH a time or two ago, I don't think he's coming with gifts of gold and jewels for our man-child king. 

Posted by: Soona at May 17, 2011 11:57 AM (LgItj)

368 On a completely unrelated side note, in addition to cutting Public Broadcasting, Planned Parenthood, and cowboy poetry festivals from the federal budget, I would like to nominate the Peace Corps.  Sure it only gets $400 million, but you know, I'd rather that $400 million didn't go to so-called charitable organizations that are sort of okay with the rape and murder of various and sundry female volunteers over the years.  Maybe I'm nuts, I dunno.

Posted by: MWR at May 17, 2011 11:57 AM (4df7R)

369 Amen!1!1!1! 

Posted by: Pastor Jeremiah Wright at May 17, 2011 11:58 AM (le5qc)

370 We were on a break.

/suppresses laugh which could result in man-card revocation

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 17, 2011 11:58 AM (fsGgs)

371 Of all the kids of news we do here, this is the kind of news I am least interested in.  Which is a shame, since you're all so clever with your commentary on shit like this.

Posted by: Truman North at May 17, 2011 11:58 AM (K2wpv)

372 Word!1!11!

Posted by: Reverend Jesse Jackson at May 17, 2011 11:58 AM (le5qc)

373

Maybe I'm nuts, I dunno.

Racist and nuts, obviously.

Nice weather in bizzaro world today, isn't it?

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 17, 2011 11:59 AM (XdlcF)

374

"Last time he walked, I think. I'm hoping this time he'll tell JEF to fuck himself."

 

Presidents involve themselves in Israeli politics for one reason only and that is to fund their re-election campaign. Methinks Sparky has a lot of lovin for Bibi this time. The only question is how much is this desparate bid for campaign cash from US-Jews going to cost me? Maybe someone should ask Barbara Streisand and Meathead. Thank God the Chi-coms are visiting.

Posted by: Sub-tard Goober at May 17, 2011 12:01 PM (Q5+Og)

375 We were on a break.

/suppresses laugh which could result in man-card revocation

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 17, 2011 03:58 PM (fsGgs)

I'm a gurrl so I'm laughing my ass off!!

Posted by: Tami at May 17, 2011 12:01 PM (VuLos)

376

I don't know. I like the Bibi but what is he thinking making another trip to the White House on Friday?

Last time he walked, I think. I'm hoping this time he'll tell JEF to fuck himself.

Posted by: ErikW at May 17, 2011 03:52 PM (7KrHw)

What I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall for that meeting.

OBAMA: Mr. Netanyahu, thank you again for coming.  Please have a seat.

*Netanyahu punches Obama in the stomach, then flips the Prez over his shoulder ala Bruce Lee*

NETANYAHU: *standing over Obama's gasping, weak, gobsmacked little feminine body* Meester Prezeedent, go fuck yoursealf.  *turns on his heel and walks out*

Posted by: MWR at May 17, 2011 12:02 PM (4df7R)

377 Oh my goodness, so many great, snarky comments.  You guys are on fire!  I'm trying to eat my lunch, but it's impossible to do so without spewing food/milk all over the place. 

Posted by: runningrn at May 17, 2011 12:03 PM (ihSHD)

378

Racist and nuts, obviously.

That goes without saying, of course.

Nice weather in bizzaro world today, isn't it?

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 17, 2011 03:59 PM (XdlcF)

Gorgeous as always!  Spring-like and bright, with the scent of imminent DOOM wafting through the air like ozone after a lightning strike. 

Posted by: MWR at May 17, 2011 12:04 PM (4df7R)

379 I'm a gurrl so I'm laughing my ass off! Spill it. Waterhouse cares nothing for you. You owe him no loyalty. REVEAL HIS SHAME.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 17, 2011 12:04 PM (TATbF)

380

Well, after being purposely snubbed and then quietly expelled from the WH a time or two ago, I don't think he's coming with gifts of gold and jewels for our man-child king. 

Posted by: Soona at May 17, 2011 03:57 PM (LgItj)

He better not because if Obama is inviting Bibi back, he's expecting an obsequious Bibi and that better not happen.

If you'll remember, the last time Netanyahu went, he already knew what was coming.

I'm hoping this isn't a "fool me twice shame on me" scenario.

Posted by: ErikW at May 17, 2011 12:05 PM (7KrHw)

381

I'm trying to eat my lunch, but it's impossible to do so without spewing food/milk all over the place. 

I tried to tell Maria that--oh, you said "food". Never mind

Posted by: Arnold at May 17, 2011 12:06 PM (XdlcF)

382 Sure cut the Peace Corps but it's not just an international rape fantasy camp. Knew a guy who went moonbat lefty and joined.  He came back with tales of getting the wrong shots, being trained in the wrong language, other volunteers being eaten by crocs, and other tales of operational SNAFU.  He came back significantly more adult and less enamored with socialism.

Posted by: Bob Saget at May 17, 2011 12:07 PM (F/4zf)

383 So logically, an atheist should be pushing, where possible, for moral rules to apply to everyone *but* themselves.

Which probably explains Marxism.  In Marxism morality is not determined by how heinous the crime is, but who the victim and perpetrator are.  A Proletariat blowing up a school bus full of Bourgeois children is a righteous act, a Bourgeois man killing a Proletariat in self-defense is evil oppression. 

As Lenin said, "To us, all is permitted, for we are the first people in history not raising a hand to enslave anyone."

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 17, 2011 12:07 PM (FkKjr)

384 Ma, Ma, where's my Pa?

Posted by: Oscar Folsom Cleveland Schwarzenegger at May 17, 2011 12:07 PM (mQMnK)

385

O/T but did any of you guitar playing morons check out that kentcarlevi on you tube.I stumbled across it the other day.This guy can shred.Check out his rendition of La Grange and Aint Talkin bout Love.Best guitarist on there.He mounts the camera to the end of the neck so you can see everything.

Posted by: ziptie at May 17, 2011 12:08 PM (nj7LO)

386 Waterhouse cares nothing for you. You owe him no loyalty.

REVEAL HIS SHAME.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 17, 2011 04:04 PM (TATbF)

Ok....sorry Waterhouse but EOJ can filet me with his words and I'm askaird of him....

It's a repeating line of Ross' on Friends.


Posted by: Tami at May 17, 2011 12:09 PM (VuLos)

387

What really smokes me is again the implication that the Israeli settlements are "illegal."  I wuld not put such a statement past the likes of asshole Jugears McHoolihan.

 

Yeah, leftard cognitive dissonance is just amazing.   Building settlements in your own land is deemed illegal.  Allowing people to illegally cross a border into another sovreign country, however, is perfectly fine. 

Posted by: runningrn at May 17, 2011 12:10 PM (ihSHD)

388 Heh.  The 'preachers' have a slight point, if subverted--given how clear it is they're claiming exception (and are blatant hypocrites), it actually proves the point--they believe they won't be held accountable, and see how they act.  The fact they claim religion as a cover, well, folks claim anything, but with religion you have something to hold them against and expose 'em as frauds, at least.

If it's man making the rules, you don't get quite that privilege.  (Exhibit A:  US Federal Courts.  Living document, indeed--I'll take my ten writ in stone, thank you.)

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 17, 2011 12:10 PM (GBXon)

389 ...oh come on folks, we can do 400!

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 17, 2011 12:13 PM (GBXon)

390 Waterhouse, You will confine yourself to your quarters while the Council decides your punishment. And may Paul Anka have mercy on you.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 17, 2011 12:13 PM (TATbF)

391 That's what she said.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 17, 2011 12:14 PM (QMtmy)

392 damme

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 17, 2011 12:15 PM (fsGgs)

393 In other news;
Sarkozy Says Party Won't Exploit Strauss-Kahn Woes
But they will chortle their asses off in a very respectable French way.

As an aside, I bet Strauss-Kahn gets a heroes welcome when he gets back to France.

Posted by: Marcus at May 17, 2011 12:15 PM (CHrmZ)

394 His next movie can be The Sperminator.

Posted by: kansas at May 17, 2011 12:15 PM (mka2b)

395 God forbid anyone lose territory in a fucking war they start.

The insanity. . .

Let's see, Israel belongs to the Jews, who annexed it from the imperialistic British, who took it from the Ottomans following WWI, the Ottomans having seized it from the Egyptian Malmuks, they having captured it from the Crusaders, whom took Israel from the early Arab Muslims, who captured Israel from the Byzantines, whom split from the Roman Empire, who seized the land from the Jews, who took the land from the Persians who had taken over the Babylonians, who themselves had conquered and exiled the Jews who settled the land in prehistory.

So we have.

JEWS
British
Ottomans
Egyptians
Crusaders (Britain)
Muslim Arabs <-----Obviously the rightful owners.
Byzantines
Romans
JEWS
Persians
Babylonians
JEWS

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at May 17, 2011 12:16 PM (0q2P7)

396 Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 17, 2011 03:28 PM (GBXon)

I can't quantify the numbers of people who are unsure or uninterested in an afterlife who also behave honorably and morally. But it is certainly a non-zero number.

That being said, I also can't argue with you about your experience. Yes, many people are assholes who see no upside to a moral and ethical life.

But enough about the Obama administration!

(I'm here 'til Thursday. Try the veal!)

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 17, 2011 12:18 PM (LH6ir)

397 Geez, over 400 comments and not one "Special Olympics" joke.  You guys suck!

Posted by: Barack Husseisn Obama, Mmm, Mmm, Mmm! at May 17, 2011 12:18 PM (ihSHD)

398
shouldn't the Celts be getting their land (England) back, too?

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 17, 2011 12:19 PM (gM4zK)

399 Dang it!  One of you wingers made me misspell my name!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama, Mmm, Mmm, Mmm! at May 17, 2011 12:19 PM (ihSHD)

400

Geez.  Where's ace?  This thread is dying. 

Posted by: Soona at May 17, 2011 12:19 PM (LgItj)

401
fuck the Celts

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 17, 2011 12:21 PM (gM4zK)

402

shouldn't the Celts be getting their land (England) back, too?

or the Poles getting Berlin back?

Or the Asian hordes getting back all of Russian minus muscovy?

Posted by: Ben at May 17, 2011 12:21 PM (wuv1c)

403 I can't quantify the numbers of people who are unsure or uninterested in an afterlife who also behave honorably and morally. But it is certainly a non-zero number.

Oh, I grant that.  I'm just equally unwilling to derive virtue from a minority of observed cases as I am to assign collective fault.  And in each case, I try to retain perspective about my sample size...though past a certain point, I have to suspect that when all samples come out similar, it may not be an issue.

So I guess I just think everyone sucks equally.  Hey, at least I'm even handed!

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 17, 2011 12:21 PM (GBXon)

404 Wow...this fucking thread is still open?  I've been gone for like, 2 hours or something and it's still here.

Slow damn news day, I guess.

Posted by: © Sponge at May 17, 2011 12:22 PM (UK9cE)

405

EOJ @ 772 is awesome...

Now, Peace be with you, asshole."

Posted by: Cheri at May 17, 2011 12:22 PM (oiNtH)

406 shouldn't the Celts be getting their land (England) back, too?

Ahem.

Posted by: The Picts at May 17, 2011 12:23 PM (GBXon)

407 or that could be EOJ @ 372

Posted by: Cheri at May 17, 2011 12:23 PM (oiNtH)

408 or the Poles getting Berlin back?

Hey what about us! WWI and WWII were unfair. We want our dirt back too.

Posted by: Prussia at May 17, 2011 12:23 PM (0q2P7)

409 To be honest, if I were married to Skeletor, I'd probably want a little somethin' somethin' on the side. That's like sharing a bed with a bag of doorknobs.

Posted by: Grim at May 17, 2011 12:24 PM (gyNYk)

410 Posted by: MikeTheMoose at May 17, 2011 03:39 PM (0q2P7)

Conflating agnosticism and atheism is reductio ad absurdum. I am an agnostic on most days, and I embrace the moral structure provided by my religion. I understand, but don't always accept the religious consequences of failing to abide by its strictures. Does that put me on your moral slippery slope?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 17, 2011 12:25 PM (LH6ir)

411 Yay, new thread to defile comment on!

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 17, 2011 12:25 PM (GBXon)

412 The only honky who could ever reach me
was the son of an Aust-ri-an

Posted by: Dustinita Springfield at May 17, 2011 12:25 PM (le5qc)

413 Ass to see you.

Posted by: mcbain at May 17, 2011 12:26 PM (Y1DZt)

414 Moral thought exercise. If you found Warren Buffet's wallet with $10,000 inside would you return it? How about the same question only it is George Soro's wallet.

Posted by: polynikes at May 17, 2011 12:26 PM (3hdsA)

415

 In other news;
Sarkozy Says Party Won't Exploit Strauss-Kahn Woes
But they will chortle their asses off in a very respectable French way.

As an aside, I bet Strauss-Kahn gets a heroes welcome when he gets back to France.

As his car passes through the streets of Paris, the men will wave their strap-ons and the women will pelt his car with tampons.  The French know how to celebrate.

Posted by: Soona at May 17, 2011 12:26 PM (LgItj)

416

As Lenin said, "To us, all is permitted, for we are the first people in history not raising a hand to enslave anyone."

You will know them by their deeds and fruit. The most depressing places on earth are the Former Soviet Union countries. They broke these peoples spirit and left them no hope. Drepressing. The "Supermen" of the 20th Century were certainly heartless.

Posted by: Sub-tard Goober at May 17, 2011 12:27 PM (Q5+Og)

417 was listening to hannity and the commercial came on for some stock and the proviso followed "the aforementioned may contain forward looking statements that may or may not be realized" and it hit me, they could have put that proviso after every single BO promise and it would have been more honest.

Posted by: curious at May 17, 2011 12:27 PM (k1rwm)

418

I could ask a question I'm mulling about dogs. That should hold us for several hours.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 17, 2011 03:55 PM (XdlcF)

Grilled is best, although if it is pouring outside a good cast-iron pan will give a nice crispy exterior. Use a good bun, and for God's sake, don't put ketchup on them!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 17, 2011 12:28 PM (LH6ir)

419 So we have.

JEWS
British
Ottomans
Egyptians
Crusaders (Britain)
Muslim Arabs <-----Obviously the rightful owners.
Byzantines
Romans
JEWS
Persians
Babylonians
JEWS

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at May 17, 2011 04:16 PM (0q2P7)



Kinda like how the United States really belongs to Mexico....right?



Posted by: © Sponge at May 17, 2011 12:31 PM (UK9cE)

420 I understand, but don't always accept the religious consequences of failing to abide by its strictures. Does that put me on your moral slippery slope? That slope will be a lot slippier from the blood leaking out of the multiple bullet holes in your body, Meat. TEN FUCKING DOLLARS IN YOUR WALLET? I only wish I could kill you again.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Atheist and Arbiter of Morality at May 17, 2011 12:33 PM (+61wI)

421 Shouldn't Missouri be getting back that Fifth Down?

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at May 17, 2011 12:34 PM (qwK3S)

422 I vish I had her talk to ze hand instead.

Posted by: mcbain at May 17, 2011 12:34 PM (Y1DZt)

423 I understand, but don't always accept the religious consequences of failing to abide by its strictures. Does that put me on your moral slippery slope?

As long as you believe that you will be held in account for the debt of your truly immoral actions, if not in this life, then after it, you are not bad off.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at May 17, 2011 12:36 PM (0q2P7)

424 I think we should be getting the whole fucking place back Breeders.

Posted by: Primoridal Amoebas at May 17, 2011 12:37 PM (qwK3S)

425 I've never liked the guy.  I  saw nothing in his movies, at all.  My husband, several years ago, had an account with one hotel on the Oregon coast.  The Arnolds had stayed there that weekend.  Arnold was an ass-hole through and through to the help.  Maria was nice.  But, since I cannot stand Kennedy's, it means nothing.

Posted by: Bean Blossom at May 17, 2011 12:38 PM (T1d4e)

426 You ever quote Maher again and I am done with this site. Oh a better quote by him was about the OJ case-"the L.A. police were so incompetent they could not even frame a guilty man."

Posted by: Locus Ceruleus at May 17, 2011 12:50 PM (HLFty)

427 If you found Warren Buffet's wallet with $10,000 inside would you return it? How about the same question only it is George Soro's wallet.

I assure you, those gentlemen would get their wallets back.

Wait for it...

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 17, 2011 12:52 PM (GBXon)

428

@372: "I tell atheists something similar all the time.

"You should be on your knees thanking my God that I believe in Him. Because if I didn't fear His judgment, I'd kill you for the minor annoyance that this conversation is causing me.

If we all decided on our own what was moral, you would be fucking dogmeat. Because I lust for your possessions, however meager and would happily play in your blood just to moisturize my fucking hands. Your nightmare, my fantasy. Empire of Jeff, fucker.

Now, Peace be with you, asshole.""

Weak sauce - I'd have expected far better utilization of the "deathbed repentence" get-out-of-jail-free card from you.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 17, 2011 12:55 PM (xy9wk)

429 425

As Lenin said, "To us, all is permitted, for we are the first people in history not raising a hand to enslave anyone."

You will know them by their deeds and fruit. The most depressing places on earth are the Former Soviet Union countries... They broke these peoples spirit and left them no hope. Drepressing. The "Supermen" of the 20th Century were certainly heartless.

Posted by: Sub-tard Goober


I'll see your Moldova and raise you Detroit, Liverpool, Belfast and Glasgow.

"Hey, layoff Detroit. Them people is living in 'Mad Max' times,"  ~~ Moe

Posted by: Teddy at May 17, 2011 12:55 PM (Xv7f/)

430 In other good news, Arnold has been nicknamed The Spermanator.

Posted by: James Loughner at May 17, 2011 01:01 PM (PrXnz)

431 I'll see your Moldova and raise you Detroit, Liverpool, Belfast and Glasgow.

I'll take 'It's Not Slavery When The Left Does It' for $400, Alex...

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 17, 2011 01:02 PM (GBXon)

432 321 Maria in an interview with Orca:

I married a bodybuilder who became an actor and lived in California. No one thought, "Well, there's somebody who'll go into politics." I don't think I'd ever even met a Republican before I met Arnold.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011


Let's recap.  Ten years ago Arnold drills the cook  maid  nanny domestic help and knocks her up.  He supports the woman and the baby for ten years during which time he gets himself elected chief executive of the world's seventh largest economy in no small part because Maria provide him with cover for his groping women issues.  Arnold serves out his time as Governor and, upon leaving office, finally notifies Maria about the little Barbarian and that she is a step-mom of a sort.  But, rather than Arnold leaving the marital home, it is Maria who has to pack up, vacate the manse and winds up in a hotel.

Seems like Maria's clearly sheltered upbringing did her no favors.  She should have talks with Grampa Joe more about the ways of the world.


Posted by: Joe McCarthy (cousin Kathleen's godfather) at May 17, 2011 01:11 PM (Xv7f/)

433

Bill Maher is a contemptible, talentless midget jackass,...

who has a face like Julian Assange's buttcrack.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at May 17, 2011 01:32 PM (0fzsA)

434 Bill Maher is a contemptible, talentless midget jackass, but he does have a quote that I like: "All rumors are true."

I heard a rumor that Maher is actually an in-the-closet ultra-conservative, evangelical Christian who, a la Lila Rose, is secretly recording the conversations of ultra-liberals and giving the footage to Fox News.


Posted by: JR at May 17, 2011 02:00 PM (gWOju)

435 Check out this man-hater's screed. (It's a Slate referral for those who cannot abide)

http://tinyurl.com/3r6ph8g

Arnold is Genghis Khan. Ha!

Posted by: Descendant # 16,000,003 at May 17, 2011 02:10 PM (Zi+FQ)

436 "If the first thing I saw every day when I woke up was Maria Shriver, I'd bang the rusty exhaust pipe of the first car I saw in a junk yard until it screamed my name. Man, is she fugly.
Posted by: Joejm65"

I'm gettin married to my Humvee truck
it doesn't leave me when I'm down on my luck
it doesn't shop at fancy stores or have a lawyer
or want a divorce.

It doesn't care if I stay out late
it doesn't bitch about the money I make
we'll be together till the end
it won't sleep with my best friend.

I'm gonna get down on one knee
and ask my truck if it'll marry me
I'll never drive another car
we'll honeymoon at the titty bar...

We're gonna have the time of our life
the exhaust pipes are tighter than my Ex-wife...
You think I'm crazy, but listen to this,
I can bring home a hooker and it won't get pissed, no...

Wedding ring won't cost me a buck
when I get married to my Humvee, Humvee truck.....

Posted by: Ahnold Hummerbanger at May 17, 2011 02:15 PM (zeR5Z)

437

For me it's kinda related to Shakepeare's "Many a truth is spoken in jest."

(That IS from Shakepeare, right ?)

Posted by: SB Smith at May 17, 2011 02:51 PM (s8cFo)

438 Uhrm, which one was the Kennedy, again? Besides, since it was Schriver, and she married a man infatuated with the Kennedys... shouldn't she have seen this coming? I mean, really? A Hollywood conservative indeed. It parallels Newt's academic conservative credentials. Loverly.

Posted by: Doom at May 17, 2011 03:11 PM (1awZ0)

439 I have a love interest in every one of my films: a gun.
Arnold Schwarzenegger

...but they only shoot blanks.

Posted by: guy climbing the Alps barefoot at May 17, 2011 03:43 PM (wAQA5)

440 So was this his Total Recall of the event?

Posted by: MovieMan at May 17, 2011 04:30 PM (Wnk4X)

441 I do have one question that has always bothered me about Ahnold. How damn long does it take to learn to speak English, because he still cannot do it.

Posted by: jlfintx at May 17, 2011 04:34 PM (Wnk4X)

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