February 10, 2011
— Ace ...in which left-wing bloggers' insane theories, claims, and charges are almost immediately put into play in the straight media. That, Dave Wiegel tells us, is the major impact from the AOL/Huffington Post deal.
So: Imagine a future in which AOL, the online portal for millions of people, farms out its news content to the Huffington Post. Imagine a future in which Yahoo!, the online portal for millions of similar people, hires the deputy publisher of Talking Points Memo to launch its blog network.For a progressive who thinks the Internet is increasingly driving the narrative, this is heartening. For a conservative, it's terrifying.
Um, Dave? The future is now. I don't sweat Yahoo! putting out leftwing pap because I'm already concerned enough about NBC and CBS doing so. I don't have to worry too much about Arianna Huffington being the vehicle for getting left-wing talking points into the national debate when Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow routinely pluck "stories" off Kos for whole segments.
On to some really futuristic stuff:
Many of you have probably read of Kurzweil and his "The Singularity is Near" doomsaying awesomesaying. Well, Time Magazine finally has too.
Worth a read. It's about the coming explosion in artificial intelligence and engineered human immortality -- power of the gods themselves type stuff -- and it's on track to hit earth around 2045, if not sooner.
On all those virtual reality dreamworlds posited by sci-fi: This isn't quite that, but one can imagine it's a short technological leap from a cap that stimulates the creative left-side of the brain with electrical LSD to full-fledged dreamscapes.
A BMW-produced documentary discusses flying cars, mostly in the we don't have 'em way I'm getting sick of.
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Wiegel is a bug that deserved to die under the bell jar of the WaPo debacle, and yet you guys keep tipping back the jar.
For all that is Val-U and hobo deadly, please stop linking to that dick.
Posted by: goldbricker esq at February 10, 2011 09:25 AM (S59+B)
... two content companies circling the bowl team up because that would be the awesomest. And then they wonder why they not only are deeper in the bowl, but that they're circling it still faster.
For a conservative, it's terrifying hilarious (especially the part where the leftards think that they've escaped the hangman).
Posted by: Preznint Splutnik, get the hell out of my hometown! at February 10, 2011 09:26 AM (UzjcV)
That's funny, assuming that we're still going to be here in 2045.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 10, 2011 09:27 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: robtr nickless liberation front at February 10, 2011 09:28 AM (hVDig)
Posted by: Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems, Inc. at February 10, 2011 09:28 AM (AN0h1)
Wiegel is a bug that deserved to die under the bell jar of the WaPo debacle, and yet you guys keep tipping back the jar.
For all that is Val-U and hobo deadly, please stop linking to that dick.
Posted by: goldbricker esq at February 10, 2011 01:25 PM (S59+B)
Well at least now he's just another left wing blogger, and not trying to claim he's covering the conservative side of things.
Posted by: buzzion at February 10, 2011 09:28 AM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Bob Dole, of course. at February 10, 2011 09:29 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: MīcÞeMūß at February 10, 2011 09:29 AM (0q2P7)
Hahahaha it does sound like the current MFM
Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2011 09:30 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: buzzion at February 10, 2011 09:30 AM (oVQFe)
"For a progressive who thinks the Internet is increasingly driving the narrative, this is heartening. For a conservative, it's terrifying."
Progressives are always claiming to know the mental and emotional states of conservatives, don't they? It's always something self-gratifying -- conservatives are terrified, disheartened, depressed, confused, in disarray, at war with each other.
Whatever Dave Wiegel and needs to say to get through the day.
(By the way, Dave, you were right about one thing: Cheryl Tiegs was looking right at you in that issue of Sports Illustrated.)
Posted by: FireHorse at February 10, 2011 09:32 AM (sWynj)
Hardly. As Ace wrote, it's what we've already got with the MFM.
Who is this Weigel guy, anyway?
--Worth a read. It's about the coming explosion in artificial intelligence and engineered human immortality -- power of the gods themselves type stuff -- and it's on track to hit earth around 2045, if not sooner.
I would just point out that in Judeo-Christian tradition, the power of G-d was contained in the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Immortality was allowed to Adam and Eve, as the Tree of Life wasn't off-limits.
I don't mean to nitpick on that, but I always found this distinction interesting.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 10, 2011 09:34 AM (N49h9)
Imagine a universe in which the Left Wing fringe becomes mainstream and what was 'normal' becomes fringe.
Posted by: microsoothsayer at February 10, 2011 09:35 AM (uFokq)
The Encyclopedia Galactica defines the Marketing Division of the Cirius Cybernetics Corporation as: "A bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes."
Interestingly enough, an edition of the Encyclopedia Galactica that fell through a time-warp from 200 years in the future defines the Marketing Division of the Cirius Cybernetics Corporation as: "A bunch of mindless jerks who were the first against the wall when the revolution came."
So long, and thanks for all the fish ...
Posted by: Preznint Splutnik, get the hell out of my hometown! at February 10, 2011 09:35 AM (UzjcV)
Posted by: joncelli at February 10, 2011 09:36 AM (RD7QR)
You would think that J-school trained journalists would be offended at all of this blatant partisanship.
And yet, not so much.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 10, 2011 09:37 AM (BvBKY)
We have world-changing events and The Won is giving shout-outs.
Thanks, 52, for giving us this feckless man-child.
Posted by: Palandine at February 10, 2011 09:37 AM (g7D8V)
(By the way, Dave, you were right about one thing: Cheryl Tiegs was looking right at you in that issue of Sports Illustrated.)
Posted by: FireHorse at February 10, 2011 01:32 PM (sWynj)
I, on the other hand, most certainly was not!
Posted by: Cheryl Tiegs' vajayjay at February 10, 2011 09:38 AM (UzjcV)
Posted by: Boots at February 10, 2011 09:38 AM (neKzn)
They are creating a universe, a mind-set, that purports their views as mainstream.
Global Warming is fact and we are the cause of it. If you don't believe this, you are fringe.
Health care is a right for all people. If you do not believe this, you are fringe.
Homosexuals getting married is normal. If you do not believe this...
And so on...
Posted by: microsoothsayer at February 10, 2011 09:38 AM (uFokq)
Skynet is real. We did not heed the warning.
Posted by: California Red at February 10, 2011 09:39 AM (7uWb8)
Because that would be indecorous.
Posted by: oblig. at February 10, 2011 09:39 AM (xvZW9)
We have world-changing events and The Won is giving shout-outs.
Thanks, 52, for giving us this feckless man-child.
Posted by: Palandine at February 10, 2011 01:37 PM (g7D8V)
You just see Megyn Kelly? This really pissed her off!
I figure he gives shout outs because his remarks about Egypt aren't in the tele yet.
Posted by: momma at February 10, 2011 09:40 AM (penCf)
I don't know about the whole immortality thing.
Will life be as special and enjoyable if there is no end? Doesn't the fact that we know it will end amplify the experience?
If you know you are going to die tomorrow you would certainly enjoy today more than you would if you weren't going to die tomorrow, right?
Posted by: Ben Liberations Front of Logprof at February 10, 2011 09:40 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Grey Fox at February 10, 2011 09:40 AM (qNu90)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 10, 2011 09:41 AM (iMgAa)
Cf. also Olbermann and Current TV.
Posted by: arhooley, conflicted Californian at February 10, 2011 09:41 AM (mSNJO)
It's not partisanship if you make your views mainstream.
That's important. That's their goal. Memorize it. Study it.
That's their loophole. And they're getting away with it, too.
Posted by: microsoothsayer at February 10, 2011 09:42 AM (uFokq)
Posted by: EvilRedScandi at February 10, 2011 09:43 AM (M+Vm5)
Posted by: Ben Liberations Front of Logprof at February 10, 2011 09:43 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: oblig. at February 10, 2011 01:39 PM (xvZW9)
Wiegel's past means absolutely nothing to me. In the present, he writes like a self-absorbed, leftist tool enchanted by his own delusions of superiority.
Just another Jarles Chonson, in other words.
Posted by: Preznint Splutnik, get the hell out of my hometown! at February 10, 2011 09:43 AM (UzjcV)
Posted by: EvilRedScandi at February 10, 2011 09:43 AM (M+Vm5)
You just see Megyn Kelly? This really pissed her off!
Posted by: momma at February 10, 2011 01:40 PM (penCf)
And Megyn (gaining back some sense) is rightly befuddled that the Indonesian called the muslim brotherhood a "largely secular group". Frankly, she should be screaming her head off and pointing out that that is surely part of his WTF tour.
Then again, a guy named Hussein,with a muslim father, step-father, raised in the largest muslim nation in the world, as a muslim, who claimed he never had anything to do with islam, feels that he can get away with spouting any old bullshit. He's right.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 10, 2011 09:44 AM (N49h9)
Rush running the country might be cool - if they're referring to the band.
Can we see their Long-Form Birth Certificates?
Posted by: garrett at February 10, 2011 09:44 AM (SCmZ5)
So, now the bastards would deprive us of even the sweet release of death. Bastards.
I hope it doesn't come. You know the government would simply rob us to make sure the welfare rats and congressmen got to live forever. We the producers would still die just like normal. And imagine the overpopulation! We'd have people stacked up wall to wall, constrained in number only by the available food supply.
Posted by: Reactionary at February 10, 2011 09:45 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 10, 2011 09:45 AM (N49h9)
I don't know about the whole immortality thing.
Will life be as special and enjoyable if there is no end? Doesn't the fact that we know it will end amplify the experience?
Posted by: Ben Liberations Front of Logprof at February 10, 2011 01:40 PM (wuv1c)
I have no desire whatsoever to hang around for eons. As a wise philosopher once put it, "A man's got to know his limitations."
Posted by: no2daup at February 10, 2011 09:47 AM (UzjcV)
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 10, 2011 01:45 PM (N49h9)
he still hasn't spoken has he?
Posted by: momma at February 10, 2011 09:47 AM (penCf)
Posted by: President Obama at February 10, 2011 09:47 AM (1fB+3)
The Encyclopedia Galactica defines the Marketing Division of the Cirius Cybernetics Corporation as: "A bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes."
DON'T PANIC
Posted by: garrett at February 10, 2011 09:47 AM (SCmZ5)
I've not even been around much this week and I see this is the second Wiegel(ish) post in a week.
Question: Why?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 10, 2011 09:48 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 10, 2011 09:48 AM (UOM48)
The collective left can pimp and lie all they want. The collective left can Goebbels the media all they want. The fact remains the leftwing progressive communist ideas still suck. Leftwing ideals will always suck from the past stretched into eternity. People may be temporarily persuaded by the emotional clap trap that is
the progressive bullshit machine, but reality always makes
its level.
Â…and the reality is, leftwing progressive liberal communist socialist
neo-Marxist crony capitalist fascism SUCKS and makes life a living hell.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at February 10, 2011 09:49 AM (0fzsA)
I am not as confident in the ability of large populations to discern what is truly in their best interests as some here seem to be. When 90+% of the information that is regurgitated, recycled, and re-broadcast has an appearance of being the mainstream orthodox point of view (i.e., liberal/progressive), it has to affect some of those among us. (I point to the 52% that voted for the Zero to make my case).
Among a thinking population, (and I hesitate to use the Moron universe as an example) the majority knew full well that a vote for the Indonesian was a clear venture into unknown and uncharted territory, but with an almost certainty of producing a bad result. What did it get us to know this? So far four years of Obama, two years of Nancy P, and a disastrous economy. There were upsides if you belonged to the right class or contributed to the right party. For most of us, not so much.
Establishing the mind set (or cognitive conditioning) works, and not to the benefit of free men.
Every day in every way, Obama is getting greater and greater!
Every day in ...
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 10, 2011 09:49 AM (DCpHZ)
Posted by: moviegique at February 10, 2011 09:49 AM (kNN2d)
Posted by: The aliens at February 10, 2011 09:50 AM (RD7QR)
I hope, through my policies, to build a bridge to the future. A bridge capable of supporting some sort of rapid transit device that would move people in large numbers via connected box-like objects...... That's my dream
Oh my God! You just blew my mind!
Were like so connected or something about wave lenghts!
Posted by: Joe "The Tank Engine" Biden at February 10, 2011 09:50 AM (Riydy)
I still think flying cars will be a disaster. Can you imagine road at 500 feet in the air? Or a drunk that closed the bar at BW3's and ran into a hovering billboard or some damn thing?
Cars falling out of the sky onto elementary schools!
Think of the children for God's sake!
Posted by: ErikW at February 10, 2011 09:50 AM (FN7J0)
That's why a lot of you are pussies about abortion.
The Left has succeeded in making you feel like unenlightened theocrats if you're not pro-choice.
Posted by: microsoothsayer at February 10, 2011 09:50 AM (uFokq)
he still hasn't spoken has he?
Posted by: momma at February 10, 2011 01:47 PM (penCf)
The Indonesian did say a few words about Egypt. He was taling about how they want CHANGE. I think the US needs to send the Indonesian to Egypt as a gift. And he was happy to proclaim that it was youngins pushing everything. As if we couldn't tell that the world has entered an infantile stage.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 10, 2011 09:50 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: Palandine at February 10, 2011 09:50 AM (g7D8V)
Â…and the reality is, leftwing progressive liberal communist socialist neo-Marxist crony capitalist fascism SUCKS and makes life a living hell.
Remember to look for the Union Label!
Posted by: Andy Stern at February 10, 2011 09:51 AM (SCmZ5)
I've not even been around much this week and I see this is the second Wiegel(ish) post in a week.
Question: Why?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 10, 2011 01:48 PM (pLTLS)
I'm still trying to find out why logprof and nickless were banned.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 10, 2011 09:51 AM (UOM48)
So basically it's warmed-over eugenics. Sorry, I think I'll pass.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at February 10, 2011 09:51 AM (JxMoP)
Jeebus, where in the hell did james clapper come from? The Mo Bros have a damn editorial in the WP today saying they are definitely an Islamist Group and that they prefer to live under Sharia law.
What in the fucking world is going on here?
Posted by: robtr nickless liberation front at February 10, 2011 09:52 AM (hVDig)
I still think flying cars will be a disaster
We're pretty much there.
Did you see the SB commercial (I forget which company) that has the car that will now read you your friends' facebook posts?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 10, 2011 09:52 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: curious at February 10, 2011 09:52 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Yahoo Answers! at February 10, 2011 09:52 AM (/joDP)
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 10, 2011 09:52 AM (DCpHZ)
Your bumping philosophy up against animal instinct and you're going to lose. The real question is, if you knew you were going to die tomorrow, and how to prevent it, would you? Well....duh! You might as well be arguing for life long abstinence by citing all the other worth while things you could do with your time like helping destitute orphans. There aren't many Mother Teresas in the world, who would put all their ethical and moral beliefs ahead of every animal desire they have, that's why we revere them. And that desire to live....Yeah that's a big one.
I'd rather like to think of it as like living like Elves of Tolkien, able to master art after art. Finally the time to pursue all of my interests.
For you married folks, just think how big that 100 year anniversary celebration would be.
Posted by: MīcÞeMūß at February 10, 2011 09:52 AM (0q2P7)
I still think flying cars will be a disaster. Can you imagine road at 500 feet in the air? Or a drunk that closed the bar at BW3's and ran into a hovering billboard or some damn thing?
Cars falling out of the sky onto elementary schools!
Think of the children for God's sake!
There are plenty of people who haven't mastered driving in 2 dimensions yet.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 10, 2011 09:53 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Dan at February 10, 2011 09:53 AM (mXBxH)
Posted by: Palandine at February 10, 2011 01:50 PM (g7D8V)
Whatever he might have been, he's a retarded stooge, now.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 10, 2011 09:53 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 10, 2011 09:54 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: curious at February 10, 2011 09:54 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Schadenboner at February 10, 2011 09:54 AM (5Rurq)
Posted by: nevergiveup at February 10, 2011 09:54 AM (0GFWk)
why do you think they feign outrage (to the max) at every little thing?
it's part of their conditioning and training process
Posted by: microsoothsayer at February 10, 2011 09:55 AM (uFokq)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 10, 2011 09:55 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: kansas at February 10, 2011 09:55 AM (mka2b)
Isn't it interesting that the leftwing circle jerk/Ponzi
scheme is awash in money - as they all pay each other to pimp the left-wing
message and take over as much of what they can to Bogart the message to the
masses.
Meanwhile, the nation is swirling down the toilet. yay proggies!
pat yourselves on the back and go suck George Soros' dead little knob.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at February 10, 2011 09:55 AM (0fzsA)
Did you see the SB commercial (I forget which company) that has the car that will now read you your friends' facebook posts?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 10, 2011 01:52 PM (pLTLS)
Dear God, we're all doomed. I'm going to dig a tunnel to the local liquor store and call it a day.
Posted by: ErikW at February 10, 2011 09:55 AM (FN7J0)
Voice-over with images
Imagine a future.....A future where every liberal screaming idiot on the planet has his 2 min of fame on the evening news.
.....a future where everyone in the White House is either an outright communist or a hardcore socialist
....a future where American are attacked and often fired for expressing concern over leftist policies.
Imagine a future...and that future is now.
Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2011 09:55 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Schadenboner at February 10, 2011 01:54 PM (5Rurq)
This just in: R Gibbs announces a bailout for AOL
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 10, 2011 09:56 AM (DCpHZ)
You know what's going to be the death of lefty journalism? Honesty.
They're no longer hiding behind revered institutions and pretending that they're middle-of-the-road, unbiased or fair.
The great success of liberals comes when they lie about themselves.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 10, 2011 09:56 AM (BvBKY)
For you married folks, just think how big that 100 year anniversary celebration would be.
What a fucking nightmare!?
Immortality and you get hitched?
...that's patently retarded.
Posted by: garrett at February 10, 2011 09:57 AM (SCmZ5)
Posted by: microdoomsayer at February 10, 2011 09:57 AM (/joDP)
It's academic. We are nowhere near able to do any of this crap.
I suspect by the time we are able to rewrite people's genetic codes, we will have no reason to.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 10, 2011 09:58 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 10, 2011 01:52 PM (DCpHZ)
I imagine having to hit <Ctrl><Alt><Delete> to reboot the system while airborne might pose a bit of a problem.
Posted by: no2daup at February 10, 2011 09:58 AM (UzjcV)
THE FUTURE IS NOW!
Posted by: 13times at February 10, 2011 09:59 AM (h6XiD)
Posted by: moviegique at February 10, 2011 09:59 AM (kNN2d)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 10, 2011 10:00 AM (UOM48)
It comes down to whether you believe the lies you are being told, or whether you believe your own eyes. Zero's administration put out a totally made up unemployment number on Monday, saying that umeployment went down to 9% even though virtually no new jobs were created.
Most news outlets reported that number as fact, and a few made fun of the number (Santelli being one of them).
They can put lies out there for consumption, but the unemployment rate, if it moved any direction at all, it probably went up, and all those people who are out of work aren't fooled by the fake/official number.
The melding of the leftie crazies and more mainstream outlets makes all of them less authortative because they will just tell bigger whoppers with a straight face. As it is now I can't watch the business channels without wanting to throw a shoe at the tv, except for maybe Cavuto.
Posted by: Boots at February 10, 2011 10:01 AM (neKzn)
Posted by: Ghost
No, you'll see that it's quite different if you take the time to read a synopsis of the topic. I'm fairly skeptical about the whole thing because it smacks too much of Golden Age sci-fi predictions, but it does not deal with elimination of people or 'breeds.'
Posted by: goldbricker esq at February 10, 2011 10:01 AM (S59+B)
BLASPHEMY!
Posted by: Dr Spank at February 10, 2011 01:57 PM (1fB+3)
Well, obviously folks like you and I who are perfect drivers with spotless records would have no problem with navigating the skyways, it's the rest of the vehicular homicidal wannabes that would have me puckered.
Posted by: ErikW at February 10, 2011 10:01 AM (FN7J0)
Posted by: joncelli at February 10, 2011 10:02 AM (RD7QR)
And that future is now......says Larry Sabato
Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2011 10:03 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: curious at February 10, 2011 10:03 AM (p302b)
Posted by: robtr nickless liberation front at February 10, 2011 10:04 AM (hVDig)
Posted by: nickless: I'm with the banned (99.174.64.43) at February 10, 2011 10:04 AM (qdtoY)
Posted by: Lilikoi at February 10, 2011 10:04 AM (qQU5j)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Chairman of the Non-Partisan Anti-nickless League at February 10, 2011 10:05 AM (TATbF)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 10, 2011 10:05 AM (ElYV9)
Posted by: no2daup at February 10, 2011 10:05 AM (UzjcV)
Posted by: joncelli at February 10, 2011 10:06 AM (RD7QR)
For a progressive who thinks the Internet is increasingly driving the narrative, this is heartening. For a conservative, it's terrifying.
AHA!! Proof the MFM is pushing a leftist agenda! I knew it all along! I told you so...but no YOU would listen!!
//
Posted by: dananjcon at February 10, 2011 10:06 AM (pr+up)
Speak for yourself. I never let a glib pro-abortion comment go without commenting as aggressively as I can. That's how I stay off the slippery slope.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 10, 2011 10:06 AM (LH6ir)
That's too bad, because the world is ending on May 21, 2011.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 10, 2011 10:06 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: robtr nickless liberation front at February 10, 2011 02:04 PM (hVDig)
I had a '79 Cutless that flew with a RREATO System (Rail Road Embankment Assisted Take Off.)
Posted by: ErikW at February 10, 2011 10:07 AM (FN7J0)
Posted by: nevergiveup at February 10, 2011 10:07 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 10, 2011 10:08 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Boots at February 10, 2011 02:01 PM (neKzn)
Yes, like the cooked inflation numbers that exclude food and energy as being immaterial (since they don't fit the narrative).
Or the unemployment numbers that don't count the people that probably don't want to work anyway since they've got an everincreasing number of weeks on the dole.
Or like that vast number of jobs that were created (or saved) by the sheer brilliance of the stimulus/giveaway/bailout/transfer of wealth.
Or like the true benefits of high speed rail.
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 10, 2011 10:08 AM (DCpHZ)
THE FUTURE!
Posted by: 13times at February 10, 2011 10:09 AM (h6XiD)
Posted by: tachyonshuggy at February 10, 2011 10:09 AM (H9loV)
Where's the speech?
Posted by: curious at February 10, 2011 10:09 AM (p302b)
Jaw Dropper: Director of National Intelligence James Clapper Says Muslim Brotherhood “Largely Secular”…
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 10, 2011 10:09 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: no2daup at February 10, 2011 01:47 PM
Are you Christian? Because if you are, then know that you are doomed to hanging around for eons.
Posted by: arhooley, conflicted Californian at February 10, 2011 10:10 AM (mSNJO)
Anyone hear the Cornell West clip about how black Americans should do what the Egyptians are doing?
Posted by: microsoothsayer at February 10, 2011 10:10 AM (uFokq)
What people love to forget so quickly is that for every cure a new disease, much more powerful, appears. That is the lesson of nature. And that doesn't even go into the degradation in neurophysiology (which we do not really understand, at all) and its effects on extending Man's physical lifetime by keeping his heart beating and blood flowing.
We certainly should be working to extend Man's lifetime, but not without the knowledge that we have gathered over the millenia that those benefits never come without their side-effects, which tend to be quite immense.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 10, 2011 10:10 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: joncelli at February 10, 2011 10:12 AM (RD7QR)
Anyone hear the Cornell West clip about how black Americans should do what the Egyptians are doing?
Posted by: microsoothsayer at February 10, 2011 02:10 PM (uFokq)
Interesting ...
Posted by: no2daup at February 10, 2011 10:12 AM (UzjcV)
What has happened is two things:
The biggest reason is the regulator environment. It simply will not countenance flying cars. If we had the current government in the late 1800s we would still be "driving" horses and horse shit would be the chief pollution concern and causing Globull Warming
The second reason is cost and innovation. Due to, again unending government regulations and the proliferation of lawyers writing tort laws, it is impossible to innovate and build in this country. If we had that in the late 1800s all the horses would be shut down and we would be walking.
Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2011 10:12 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: microsoothsayer at February 10, 2011 02:10 PM (uFokq)
According to SC Dem John Ford they are too lazy to do what the Egyptians are doing. We would have to import and hire the Egyptians which is why all these bad AZ laws need to be killed.
Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2011 10:14 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Chairman of the Non-Partisan Anti-nickless League at February 10, 2011 10:14 AM (TATbF)
Anyone hear the Cornell West clip about how black Americans should do what the Egyptians are doing?
is that the guy who dresses the exact same way at all times? With the scarf and everything?
What exactly does he do for a living? Does he sell cigarettes or something?
Posted by: Ben Liberations Front of Logprof at February 10, 2011 10:15 AM (wuv1c)
Jaw Dropper: Director of National Intelligence James Clapper Says Muslim Brotherhood “Largely Secular”…
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 10, 2011 02:09 PM (9hSKh)
This just in. Pope declares the Vatican to be largely secular.
Posted by: buzzion at February 10, 2011 10:15 AM (oVQFe)
Posted by: robtr nickless liberation front at February 10, 2011 02:04 PM (hVDig)
I had a '79 Cutless that flew with a RREATO System (Rail Road Embankment Assisted Take Off.)
Posted by: ErikW at February 10, 2011 02:07 PM (FN7J0)
My 81 Grand Prix flew with the power assist of the DRNMB system (drunkin retards need more beer)
Posted by: dananjcon at February 10, 2011 10:16 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: curious at February 10, 2011 10:16 AM (p302b)
Imagine a future......a future where there are no national boundaries. A future where cockroaches flood over the border like water over the Grand Coolie Dam
Imagine a future.......and that future is now.
Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2011 10:17 AM (M9Ie6)
IT'S THE FUCKING FUTURE ALREADY, WHERE'S MY JETPACK DAMMIT.
Posted by: PCachu at February 10, 2011 10:17 AM (r2Oug)
Yeah, but that's eternity with God, the guy who never runs out of ideas for fun things to do.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 10, 2011 10:18 AM (TpXEI)
The Mormon Tabernacle Choir is my favorite Secular Rock Band.
I have the deluxe, double-disc, release of them doing, 'Jesus Christ, Superstar!'
Posted by: James Clapper at February 10, 2011 10:18 AM (SCmZ5)
@29
Hell, no. If I thought I was going to die tomorrow, I'd be miserable. I realize that's not "logical", but there are too many people who depend on me now for me to be able to enjoy "my last day on earth".
maybe enjoy isn't the right word, appreciate is what i meant.
You would appreciate life more if you knew it was ending tomorrow.
Posted by: Ben Liberations Front of Logprof at February 10, 2011 10:19 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: buzzion at February 10, 2011 10:19 AM (oVQFe)
Posted by: curious at February 10, 2011 02:16 PM (p302b)
The dem chair of the House intelligence committee, that idiot Reyes, I think, didn't even know the difference between Sunni and Shiite.
And when you have a guy named Hussein in the Whine House, as islam is making its big push against the US and the West, you can't really get much worse.
The national suicide of 2008 is moving along apace.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 10, 2011 10:20 AM (N49h9)
The Muslim Brotherhood is largely secular.
In other news, the Black Muslims are largely Asian Lutherans.
Posted by: Palandine at February 10, 2011 10:20 AM (g7D8V)
Posted by: Ben Liberations Front of Logprof at February 10, 2011 10:21 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: curious at February 10, 2011 10:21 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Ben Liberations Front of Logprof at February 10, 2011 10:21 AM (wuv1c)
Meanwhile, in the real world, pharma companies are growing very worried that the billions they've thrown at R&D in the last ten years have done little to fill the new-drug pipeline.
Posted by: Waterhouse at February 10, 2011 10:21 AM (Q0w+1)
Took off erin and put on megyn. So, clapper thinks the bros are a franchise? So can anyone buy the franchise then, is it like mickey d's?
Except their happy meal toys are bomb parts. Gotta collect'em all
Posted by: Ben Liberations Front of Logprof at February 10, 2011 10:22 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: buzzion at February 10, 2011 10:22 AM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Joey "Plugs" B. at February 10, 2011 10:23 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2011 10:23 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Waterhouse at February 10, 2011 02:21 PM (Q0w+1)
It wouldn't matter even if they come up with great drugs, today's FDA wouldn't approve them. They can't make any money anyway thanks to the HIPPA act that set up the Medicaid rebate program.
Posted by: Chucky Shumer at February 10, 2011 10:23 AM (Rn2kl)
The Taliban is comprised mostly of Animal Rights activists.
Posted by: James Clapper at February 10, 2011 10:25 AM (SCmZ5)
Live forever?
OK, just not here. I truly would prefer a place where lies aren't told as truth, politicians were honest, and we were able to live in peace with everyone.
In other words, someplace where everything isn't backwards...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 10, 2011 10:25 AM (b6qrg)
Posted by: Lilikoi at February 10, 2011 10:26 AM (qQU5j)
Posted by: Palandine at February 10, 2011 10:27 AM (g7D8V)
Quick question for the tech savvy Morons: I'm looking for a TV tuner for my PC so I can watch golf on the weekends while I surf the Intertubes and other useless shit.
Best Buy doesn't have anything under $100. Is that as cheap as they get or can I find something a bit more reasonable?
(I can't live stream because I live in a rural area and am limited by Verizon's 5 gig per month plan.)
Posted by: ErikW at February 10, 2011 10:27 AM (FN7J0)
Posted by: Lilikoi at February 10, 2011 02:04 PM (qQU5j
DUHHH, ever see the Jetsons? Needs to fold up into a briefcase when you get to work too.
Posted by: Hedgehog at February 10, 2011 10:27 AM (Rn2kl)
Eric Holder believes that America is a Nation of Heroes!
Posted by: James Clapper at February 10, 2011 10:29 AM (SCmZ5)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Chairman of the Non-Partisan Anti-nickless/logprof League at February 10, 2011 10:29 AM (xmuv/)
Posted by: AmishDude at February 10, 2011 10:30 AM (BvBKY)
Posted by: James Clapper at February 10, 2011 10:31 AM (XdlcF)
What's next? Assistant attorney general Fred Chiapet?
Posted by: AmishDude at February 10, 2011 10:32 AM (BvBKY)
"Don't throw the Brown Acid in your wive's faces...no need to be alarmed. Don't Freak Out. But Don't use the Brown Acid!
It is weak and will not be sufficient to punish her for her crimes against, Allah! (Please Build Us Highspeedrail).
Again, the Brown Acid is Weak. Please to not throw it on your wives and daughters.
That is all.
Posted by: Egyptian Loudspeaker Announcement at February 10, 2011 10:33 AM (SCmZ5)
That's too bad, because the world is ending on May 21, 2011.
"But thank you for calling and sharing..."
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 10, 2011 10:34 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: the priests of the temples of syrinx at February 10, 2011 10:34 AM (GTbGH)
The Left has succeeded in making you feel like unenlightened theocrats if you're not pro-choice.
Posted by: microsoothsayer
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Um, no.. your mistake for confusing Conservatism with your subset of values. I don't give a crap about abortion as a political issue, and that opinion is affected by neither you nor Lefties.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 10, 2011 10:36 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: the priests of the temples of syrinx at February 10, 2011 02:34 PM (GTbGH)
Actually, were not the priests overthrown at the end?
(breaks out into air guitar)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 10, 2011 10:37 AM (ujg0T)
Quick question for the tech savvy Morons: I'm looking for a TV tuner for my PC so I can watch golf on the weekends while I surf the Intertubes and other useless shit.
Posted by: ErikWI've done that search many times as well.
Here's a list of them: ( ATSC is the digital TV signal, QAM is cable TV ): TV tuners with reviews.
Posted by: goldbricker esq at February 10, 2011 10:38 AM (S59+B)
Check this site (Tiger Direct) and then compare prices after doing a search on Amazon.
http://tinyurl.com/2f9743
Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2011 10:39 AM (M9Ie6)
Actually, I think marriage would be one of the first things to be radically altered in the face of vastly extended lifespans. Instead of being married for say, 60 years, and a good chunk of that in old age and retirement, you'd be looking at 120 years of marriage, with someone who is permenantly locked in at 29 physically, and likely not much more mentally.
Posted by: Alex at February 10, 2011 10:40 AM (J2ejK)
Divorcing sensory apparatus (call it gestalt, if it helps) from the sensing is folly. This will never yield what they seek.
Is cholesterol good, bad or indifferent? The question is, "In what sense."
Posted by: VoidDoggy at February 10, 2011 10:45 AM (pY2OC)
That's why a lot of you are pussies about abortion.
The Left has succeeded in making you feel like unenlightened theocrats if you're not pro-choice.
Oh puhleeze. The Left succeeded elsewhere.
Imagine growing up in a socioeconomic world where sexual activity is condoned--nay, encouraged--in your mid teens, but successful marriage and family formation aren't really possible until your thirties.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 10, 2011 10:46 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: joncelli at February 10, 2011 02:12 PM (RD7QR)
No, hot dog buns on their ears
Posted by: Museisluse at February 10, 2011 10:46 AM (u/Nbu)
Posted by: toby928™: Popular Front for the Liberation of logprof at February 10, 2011 10:48 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: toby928™: Popular Front for the Liberation of logprof at February 10, 2011 10:49 AM (GTbGH)
That's funny, assuming that we're still going to be here in 2045.
I plan to live forever. Barring that, a couple of thousand years. Even 500 would be pretty nice.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at February 10, 2011 10:52 AM (1hM1d)
Posted by: goldbricker esq at February 10, 2011 02:38 PM (S59+B)
Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2011 02:39 PM (M9Ie6)
Very much appreciated, guys. I don't need anything fancy because I literally only watch TV for golf, football and baseball and I effing despise ESPN so I'm good with the networks.
Again, thanks!
Posted by: ErikW at February 10, 2011 10:52 AM (FN7J0)
The Left has succeeded in making you feel like unenlightened theocrats if you're not pro-choice.
Posted by: microsoothsayer
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Um, no.. your mistake for confusing Conservatism with your subset of values. I don't give a crap about abortion as a political issue, and that opinion is affected by neither you nor Lefties.
To elaborate further, Imagine a future society with few if any intact courtship rituals, and no way to compel deadbeat daddy to act responsibily if a pregnancy does occur. Imagine a future where single motherhood essentially means hopeless poverty.
And THAT is why so many people are regrettably pro-choice.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 10, 2011 10:58 AM (ujg0T)
And THAT is why so many people are regrettably pro-choice.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 10, 2011 02:58 PM (ujg0T)
BUT couldn't they at least have the courtesy to do it on their own nickel?
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 10, 2011 11:04 AM (DCpHZ)
BUT couldn't they at least have the courtesy to do it on their own nickel?
No disagreement there. I was just a little peeved at "microsoothsayer's" holier-than-thou (or perhaps more impervious to leftist media than thou) attitude.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 10, 2011 11:08 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Jack Lennon at February 10, 2011 11:09 AM (6pdeq)
Posted by: rdbrewer at February 10, 2011 11:10 AM (6pdeq)
To elaborate further, Imagine a future society with few if any intact
courtship rituals, and no way to compel deadbeat daddy to act
responsibily if a pregnancy does occur. Imagine a future where single
motherhood essentially means hopeless poverty.
And THAT is why so many people are regrettably pro-choice.
Okay, so if being pro-choice makes these problems go away, how come the group with the highest abortion rate is also the one with the highest number of births outside of wedlock?
Aborting babies doesn't change underlying behavior. A woman who has sex with numerous partners, when she eventually decides to have children, will not suddenly find Sir Lancelot. She will just pick to keep the next accident to come along. So she will still be a single mother even after killing a few of her own progeny.
Which, we should note, is wrong in and of itself.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 10, 2011 11:31 AM (TpXEI)
No disagreement there. I was just a little peeved at "microsoothsayer's" holier-than-thou (or perhaps more impervious to leftist media than thou) attitude.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 10, 2011 03:08 PM (ujg0T)
Well, substitute "illegal immigrants" as opposed to "undocumented workers" for another not so subtle reformulation of the problem.
Or try "Bush tax cuts for the rich" as opposed to "maintaining the current tax structure" or "increasing taxes on almost everyone that actually pays taxes".
The MBM has slowly degraded the discussion and most of the frogs don't seem to notice the flames outside the pot.
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 10, 2011 11:33 AM (DCpHZ)
Okay, so if being pro-choice makes these problems go away, how come the group with the highest abortion rate is also the one with the highest number of births outside of wedlock?
I *never* said it makes these problems go away.
But let us look at the demographics of those abortions. Imagine growing up in a socioeconomic world where sexual activity is condoned--nay, encouraged--in your mid teens, but successful marriage and family formation aren't really possible until your thirties--namely, the middle class.
For the *lower* class, be they black urban ghetto or white rural trailer park, out of wedlock births are often desired, as "baby mommas" receive benefits, a modicum of status, and (in their minds anyway) the unconditional love of a little person.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 10, 2011 11:37 AM (ujg0T)
The problems themselves are associated moral hazards that are part of life. Moral hazards manifest as societal problems when society's aggregate morality decays. The solution to a decline in aggregate societal morality is NOT to introduce further and more dire moral hazards to society allowing them to sweep the results of their immorality under the rug without changing underlying behavior patterns. This in fact will exacerbate the problems society faces by further eroding their moral base; as we know living in an ordered free society requires morality. The less you have the harder maintaining a free society becomes, ultimately requiring more top down control to compensate for societies lack of ethical behavior.
On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "The Wages of Sin is Death."
Posted by: MīcÞeMūß at February 10, 2011 11:47 AM (0q2P7)
For the *lower* class, be they black urban ghetto or white rural trailer park, out of wedlock births are often desired, as "baby mommas" receive benefits, a modicum of status, and (in their minds anyway) the unconditional love of a little person.
So what's your point? That abortion exists so that middle class teenagers don't ruin their lives by having the *wrong* baby?
One thing you may want to keep in mind is that everybody has an ancestor that was born in sub-optimal conditions to somebody who slept with the wrong person. It's not ideal, but people born of this situation are no less deserving of life than anyone else.
As an aside, it is certainly possible to have a family and baby in your twenties and be quite successful at it.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 10, 2011 12:12 PM (TpXEI)
So what's your point? That abortion exists so that middle class teenagers don't ruin their lives by having the *wrong* baby?
Yep. I didn't say I *liked* it (I sure don't), I said that's why what goes on, goes on.
It's not the MFM *causing* this (although they certainly do *reflect* this, and I wager a few of the newsies have had theirs).
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 10, 2011 12:28 PM (ujg0T)
Yes, agitate for a new president! Allen West should be available.
Incidentally, I actually agree with the assertion that the Muslim Brotherhood is mostly secular. They want absolute secular power, don't they? And it would be a lot easier to block their activities and expel them from the country if they couldn't use that stupid "religious freedom" argument.
Posted by: not the droid you seek at February 10, 2011 12:31 PM (h35AH)
Posted by: not the droid you seek at February 10, 2011 12:34 PM (h35AH)
Regarding Cornel West's suggestion for the Blacks:
Yes, agitate for a new president! Allen West should be available.
I like it, but remember, Allen West isn't "really Black" according to commie Cornel West.
As for Cornel West, one word--deportation.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 10, 2011 12:36 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at February 10, 2011 08:22 PM (vA9ld)
#21
Thanks, 52, for giving us this feckless man-child.
OK, but 5% of us came to our senses in 2012.
Posted by: Decaf at February 11, 2011 05:27 AM (oXMaW)
#151, Vic,
Imagine a future where every household has over 100 channels of television programing....and yet can not find anything to watch.
Why not? Bruce Springsteen did an album about it in 1992 and called one track "57 channels and nothin' on". Would that be like a channel per state? He was ahead of his time.
Posted by: Decaf at February 11, 2011 05:59 AM (oXMaW)
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What year is it?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 10, 2011 09:22 AM (ElYV9)