June 08, 2011
Update: In Which I Overcome These Doubts
— Ace Kristen Powers is very inconsistent in her new column damning Weiner, by the way.
Just pointing this out. I don't think it's a big deal.
Yesterday, or the day before, I heard Kristen Powers claim for those who allege "it's not about the sex, it's about the lying," it really is about the sex.
This is a Clinton-era go-to defense, that, as she says (and was said 100x in 1998-99), if you're going to have illicit sex, of course you will also lie about it; the two things are bundled, a package deal. Few people have illicit sex and then tell the truth about it.
Hell, we've accepted this idea so much that Presidents are permitted to lie under oath about it.
So her point is that this is just about sex, then -- the lying being a necessary consequence of the sex -- and that this is nobody's business, except his wife and family's.
I haven't hit the moral card very hard because I don't know how I feel about this. I know David Vitter had all the holes punched in his Subway Frequent Whoremonger Card (get a free girl sandwich!), and he stood for reelection, and won, and I'm not terribly upset by that.
So I guess maybe the liberals are right -- honestly, who knows, maybe the only thing that matters is, as Amanda Marcotte avers, whether they vote the right way. (Link to Stace McCain's piece challenging this notion.)
But that said, it's odd to see Kristen Powers reverse field so sharply and now aver No, it's about the lying.
He lied to her, personally, you see. That's why she's turned.
I guess I can see that, and I don't mean to bait, but of course he lied to a journalist, Kristin.
Here's her story. After Weiner reassured her this was all just a rightwing set-up...
He knew I was going on the show Hannity, where I would use this false information to defend him in front of millions of people. I did, and I regret it. The previous day I had reluctantly done an interview with the New York Post at his request to talk about what kind of boyfriend he was. In that story I didnÂ’t address the controversy but talked about my experiences with him. Nonetheless, my friends were furious when the real information came out and they realized he had allowed me to become involved in his sordid controversy. I just felt sorry for him and his wife.In an interview with Greta Van Susteren the evening of WeinerÂ’s tearful press conference, I told her I didnÂ’t believe he needed to resign because his behavior was not related to his official capacity and that this was between him and his wife and, ultimately, the voters. Yes, he lied, I acknowledged, but everyone lies in sex scandals.
his is my general view of sex scandals. But there is lying and then there is what Weiner did. Due to nonstop meetings, I had not had time to watch his media blitz prior to my Greta interview and was slack-jawed when I saw clips of him the next day sneering and pointing fingers at other people for what he knew he had done. I am of the general view that politicians are not the most honest group of people, but, even using that very low standard, what I saw in those interviews was deeply disturbing. There is no way anyone can ever believe anything Weiner says again after that. In fact, I highly doubt that what he said in his press conference is even true.
Narcissism doesn’t begin to describe this kind of behavior. It seems there was nobody he didn’t lie to. The New York Times reported this morning that he told donors a week ago that the scandal was the result of a “vast right-wing conspiracy” and that “everything [would] be fine.” We also learned after his press conference that he coached a former porn star with whom he had communicated online on how to lie to the media.
So the distinction is between lying humbly and lying arrogantly?
Which of the two was Clinton guilty of?
It seems to me that is a quickly-crafted distinction to explain a sudden shift from one position to another.
And I'm not beating on her about that; we do not think with our brains. We think with our guts. Our brains just make up the logical-sounding words to make it sound like we came by our positions intellectually. We didn't. Few do.
So it could just be that in 24 hours her gut changed -- guts work on emotion -- and now her logic necessarily follows, as it tries to make sense of what the gut is saying.
I have to confess to being unsure of the path here. For days -- for two weeks, I guess -- I have wondered "Why am I doing this? What do I care?"
It wasn't because I hated Weiner. He was an annoying puffed-up partisan brat, sure, but there are dozen others ready to take his place on MSNBC and Kos' Wall of Heroes. He was inconsequential, politically.
Well, except for being well-positioned for a mayoral run, but honestly, I didn't even know about that until this story broke.
I guess it just annoyed me at some level that he was lying, and people weren't calling him on it.
It seemed obvious. He's lying. Isn't anyone going to note this in the media?
And don't we usually note lies? Why are we suddenly giving this one a pass?
Because he's a liberal and so Howard Kurtz takes his transparent lies as authoritative?
Because it's about sex? Have we all agreed to this idea, that lies about sex are okay? Does that mean the media gives the next Republican who lies about sex as similar pass?
Oh wait, no, then that's hypocrisy. Full spectrum flood-the-zone coverage.
So I don't know. Should this matter, especially when, if Kristen Powers' initial position is true (and I'm not sure it's not), that "everyone lies about sex"?
I don't know. I don't know.
I know that when the pictures were actually released Monday, I had a queasy feeling. And while I had previously been keenly interested in vindication, motivated by intellectual vanity, now I sort of began to have empathy and kept thinking, and writing, "Call the fight. Make it stop."
I wanted him to resign less to have a scalp than to just get it all behind us.
I don't know. I don't know what the hell happened here, really, now, looking back.
Great to "win" and be "right" and all that but today's revelation of a pregnancy really just makes this all seem less like partisan sport and more like simple cruelty.
I don't know. I'm just thinking. Or my gut is thinking, and I'm typing out the words my brain is giving me in translation.
Correction: I initially wrote Larry Craig continues on as Senator, which he does not.
Regrets About Regrets: Commenters are having none of my 11th hour sweetheart act and point out this was pretty bad behavior.
Yes... but then, I guess it is about the sex, contra Kristen Powers.
One thing I reminded myself of, through my doubts, was that this was flagrant, brazen, reckless, begging-to-be-caught behavior.
Cheaters always get caught anyway, and when you're this out of control...? Forget about it.
And I did know those other pictures were in the mix a week before they dropped.
So I knew that he was really basically going kookoobananas online, trolling for cybersex with almost-complete-strangers, twice in a month, and that's just what we know about.
Who knows what the coming weeks will reveal.
So... this guy was having some kind of a blaze-of-glory cybersex dignity-firesale.
I guess this wasn't an investigation so much as an intervention.
Like I said, I don't know. I said that a dozen times. I mean that. From the gut to the brain to the fingers to the screen.
Oh: The other thing that I thought, frequently, when I asked myself, "Why push this?," is: Because this is what we do.
Is that a good system? I don't know, but it is the system.
And I know I got very angry indeed when champion dickweed Howard Kurtz sneeringly informed me that in this one case, it would not be the system.
Unacceptable, Kurtz. We shall not have a regime of hard, punitive rules for conservatives and soft, forgiving rules for liberals.
I was thinking that this is like the Prisoner's Dilemma.
I believe both parties, and most people in the public eye, would agree, if they could make an agreement which could be enforced and relied upon, that "We shall not beat up each other over this stuff."
That would accrue to everyone's interest in the political/media class. Note I speak only of this class. I am not saying that this agreement would serve anyone else's interests. But it would serve politicians' and media-types' interests.
You don't screw with me, I don't screw with you. For this class, such an agreement would be mostly upside.
But the problem is, of course, the same one as is the whole point of the Prisoner's Dilemma: You can't trust your opponents to go soft on you.
So what do you do? Concede the field, in which case only your own allies get pummeled like this, but you sweetly avoid pummeling their guys in the hopes that they will honor their side of the bargain?
They won't. They never do.
MSNBC placed an ad buy on my site in late 2006, before the elections. The ad was intended to be -- from the looks of it -- a rotating headlines ad, in which they'd update the headlines every few days.
They never updated it.
For three months, I had the Mark Foley story at the top of the column. Because that's the story MSNBC wanted on conservative websites.
I think this is why I yelled and bitched when not enough people on the right were, to my line of thinking, pushing the story hard enough. I thought maybe they were sort of looking at this in Prisoner's Dilemma terms and deciding that something like mutual restraint was the best strategy for both parties here.
The trouble is, the other side will never reciprocate in that strategy. Even if the Democratic B-Team honors it (the actual Democratic Party), the more important Democratic A-Team won't (the liberal media).
So even if we'd prefer, if it were possible, some kind of "let's go easy on each other's fallen angels" barter, it doesn't matter what we'd prefer, because we can't have that. It's not on the table; it's not being offered. It's impossible.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Actually, hate Steven den Beste, because this is all his fault.
Oh Yeah: And I completely failed to mention the "vast right wing conspiracy" gambit, in which innocent people are to be deliberately framed for a #Hack! that never happened in order to spare a narcissistic douchebag a moment of mortification.
Breitbart, PatriotUSA, everyone at the Big blogs... everyone was going to get framed and smeared to protect Weiner from his own Joe Esterhaus-level sexual compulsiveness.
At some point -- and that point was reached 12 hours after Weiner tweeted his junk -- it was either going to be him, the actual malefactor, or us, who didn't do anything except notice bad behavior, who was going down.
And yes, at that point, forget about it, I and other good people aren't going down just because the media finds us more attractive villains.
Forgot all about that.
One last point, and I do think this is a last point: As McCain gets at, isn't the claim to be a "feminist" -- all concerned about women's welfare and their treatment as equals rather than objects -- serve as a powerful predicate for laying the "hypocrisy" charge at the feet of liberal fallen angels?
How many coeds do you have to dick-dial behind the back of your pregnant wife before someone notices that maybe that's not exactly congruent with the teachings of Gloria Steinem?
As Bob Loblaw famously asked, "Why should you go to jail for a crime that someone else... noticed?"
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Posted by: VillageIdiot at June 08, 2011 02:41 PM (utXSy)
Posted by: Donna at June 08, 2011 02:42 PM (bdE9c)
Well one big distinction is that Republicans are not by and large allowed to just "lie about sex" without being hounded by the press and opposition and called on to resign. So in this case Weiner is just getting the treatment normally reserved for GOP politicians.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 08, 2011 02:42 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: Jeff B. at June 08, 2011 02:42 PM (hIWe1)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at June 08, 2011 02:45 PM (ndlFj)
For me it's both.
If you break a vow to your spouse, that is dishonorable and cause enough to resign.
If you lie, that too is dishonorable and cause to resign.
But, I'm old fashioned I suppose. What is interesting is hearing all these folk, now democrats included, calling on Weiner to resign. Where were they during Monicagate?
Posted by: dave at June 08, 2011 02:45 PM (HPcQF)
As for Powers, who cares what she thinks? She was so be-clowned by Megyn Kelly that she's irrelevant. She's a sloppy thinker, doesn't do any research, so why are we surprised she bought this shit. Frankly my opinion of Weiner dropped when I found out he was shctupping her.
Posted by: Iblis at June 08, 2011 02:46 PM (9221z)
I wish people would stop making this assumption. Unless we have evidence to prove otherwise, it's probably best to assume she married him for the reason most people get married - she loves the guy and wanted to spend the rest of her life with him.
Posted by: Slublog at June 08, 2011 02:46 PM (0zKkE)
It's a lot more than that to Powers, and rightfully so. Weiner specifically leveraged his personal relationship with her -- their romance in the past, all the times they had spoken since, whatever trust that had been accumulated through that -- and used it in order to get Powers to go out there and unwittingly shill for his lies. He specifically asked to her go and talk to the media about what good boyfriend he was, for fuck's sake! That's FOUL. That's a huge, deeply *personal* betrayal to Powers, on a level much different from that of Weiner lying to any typical journalist.
She has a right to be furious. And I'm surprised that you completely missed that angle to it.
Posted by: Jeff B. at June 08, 2011 02:46 PM (hIWe1)
I don't know. I don't know what the hell happened here, really, now, looking back.
Great to "win" and be "right" and all that but today's revelation of a pregnancy really just makes this all seem less like partisan sport and more like simple cruelty.
Meh. When in doubt, fuck 'em. A win really is a win.
Posted by: Rod Rescueman at June 08, 2011 02:47 PM (HwE/1)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2011 02:47 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: nickless at June 08, 2011 02:47 PM (MMC8r)
Hey... I got a great idea... how about we elect people who DON"T HAVE TO LIE????
What a novel idea... you know... people with character?
And no... not everyone lies about Sex... even us older Single folks.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 08, 2011 02:48 PM (NtXW4)
Uhh, wasn't Kirsten riding that baloney pony at one point? I know I heard they used to "see" each other on some news station. Probably fox since i avoid the mfm. Anyways, I don't trust shit she says on this.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 08, 2011 02:48 PM (3k6GF)
And still Americans are dying in Southeast Asian shitholes for no good reason. And still the Regime frisks old British tourists in Long Beach instead of guarding the Mexican border, and props up Gov Motors, and
don't get me started
Posted by: El Kilo at June 08, 2011 02:48 PM (le5qc)
Posted by: Donna at June 08, 2011 02:48 PM (bdE9c)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 08, 2011 02:50 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: isostan at June 08, 2011 02:50 PM (WgvZ+)
So enough with the guilt. Make with the Victory Ewoks.
Posted by: Iblis at June 08, 2011 02:50 PM (9221z)
Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at June 08, 2011 02:50 PM (+lsX1)
I wish people would stop making this assumption. Unless we have evidence to prove otherwise, it's probably best to assume she married him for the reason most people get married - she loves the guy and wanted to spend the rest of her life with him.
Posted by: Slublog at June 08, 2011 06:46 PM (0zKkE)
For most people I think you'd be right. But this is someone that is of the Clinton's inner circle. Which to a lot just screams marriage for power.
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2011 02:50 PM (oVQFe)
This is the most important part of Powers' article.
Due to nonstop meetings, I had not had time to watch his media blitz prior to my Greta interview and was slack-jawed when I saw clips of him the next day sneering and pointing fingers at other people for what he knew he had done. I am of the general view that politicians are not the most honest group of people, but, even using that very low standard, what I saw in those interviews was deeply disturbing.
Maybe she should not have trusted him so completely, but she did. Would she have believed him without compunction if she had seen those interviews when they happened? After all, she supposedly knows him very well. Would she have realized that he was lying, if she had seen his face when he was spewing his crap instead of just going by what he had emailed to her?
Don't know, but one of the reasons she's so pissed is because he made her look like a fool. Sometimes that feeling is the hardest to overcome.
Posted by: Steph at June 08, 2011 02:51 PM (AkdC5)
I wish we had either old Roman rules, or Samurai rules in place.
I'd be willing to forgive him eveyrthing, if he would just commit hari-kari. Live on teevee where I could watch. THEN I'd feel sorry for him. but only after.
* okay, I'm not that vengeful. I'd be happy if he just let Monster Mohel slice off his Weiner.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 08, 2011 02:51 PM (T1boi)
Posted by: isostan at June 08, 2011 06:50 PM (WgvZ+)
Go to the home page of the paper, the somewhat retarcted the story, but there is another story about it on their page.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 08, 2011 02:52 PM (NtXW4)
Posted by: Iblis at June 08, 2011 02:52 PM (9221z)
Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 08, 2011 02:53 PM (7YKsD)
Posted by: sifty at June 08, 2011 02:53 PM (2dbd9)
2 in one month? What?
And... this business with quite-young girls. Horrible.
Eh.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2011 06:47 PM (nj1bB)
You know as was pointed out on Redeye last night, if he's got a narcissitic personality, even now part of him is still loving this because people are talking about him. Even if its bad, its still all about him.
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2011 02:53 PM (oVQFe)
She's not pissed about him lying to her. Dems do that all the time and she's perfectly fine with it.
She's pissed that he asked her to do that NY Post interview about their previous relationship, co-opting her into his deception against her will. She's angry about being directly manipulated into cannon-fodder.
Frankly, if he had privately come clean with her and then asked her to do the interview, she'd have probably done it anyway.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 08, 2011 02:53 PM (8rHXV)
Posted by: palerider at June 08, 2011 02:53 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Uterine Investigations Unit at June 08, 2011 02:53 PM (lGFXF)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 08, 2011 02:53 PM (TMB3S)
I thought we were supposed to lie that we were having some of the sex.
Can we just have some of the sex, please?
Posted by: Young Men at June 08, 2011 02:54 PM (7tM55)
I wish we had either old Roman rules, or Samurai rules in place.
I'd be willing to forgive him eveyrthing, if he would just commit hari-kari. Live on teevee where I could watch. THEN I'd feel sorry for him. but only after.
* okay, I'm not that vengeful. I'd be happy if he just let Monster Mohel slice off his Weiner.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 08, 2011 06:51 PM (T1boi)
LOL.... I want the Code Duelo back!
But then again... I"m both an expert marksman with a pistol, and have been Elizabethan Fencing for many years...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 08, 2011 02:54 PM (NtXW4)
Great to "win" and be "right" and all that but today's revelation of a pregnancy really just makes this all seem less like partisan sport and more like simple cruelty.
This is bullshit, Ace.
A possible pregnancy has nothing to do with the duplicitous nature of this scumbag and his proclivity to lie at the drop of a hat.
He's the lowest form of Public / Political Personage and deserves to be run out of town on a Rail.
You did good work keeping this alive until someone could shine the light on this fungus of humanity.
Now get to work on Obama's anti-Israel agenda.
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2011 02:54 PM (1sb9C)
Early in my career I worked for a guy that bragged about cheating on his wife. I thought, "yikes, if she can't trust him, how could I?"
Maybe everyone does lie about sex, but there are lies out of privacy and modesty and lies of betrayal. And there is betrayal out of weakness, and betrayal that goes much deeper.
What Clinton did, or what Weiner did, is not a man protecting his privacy or a man who slipped and is contrite. It is a betrayal of the one person who had to trust him, and if their wives can not trust their words AT ALL, how can the voters?
Posted by: nine coconuts at June 08, 2011 02:54 PM (uz3hs)
Posted by: JD at June 08, 2011 02:54 PM (j/wD+)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 08, 2011 02:56 PM (XmqZJ)
Posted by: JD at June 08, 2011 06:54 PM (j/wD+)
Yeah.... there is a question as to whether this guy goes or stays... and then they wonder why we don't TRUST our Government.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 08, 2011 02:56 PM (NtXW4)
Posted by: beedubya at June 08, 2011 02:56 PM (AnTyA)
Good times. You are shaping the future in ways we will never know. It is easier to stop these goons early instead of later. Let's go.
Posted by: El Kilo at June 08, 2011 02:56 PM (le5qc)
Are you fucking shitting me? have you actually LOOKED at Weiner lately? What fucknozzle would marry that constipated ostrich, if not for status or power? This woman literally cannot leave Hillary's side either, it seems, so much that we wonder if they share the same bed too.
She's a fuckstick liberal woman with fuckstick ideals, so you'll pardon me if I'm not entirely convinced she married him because she wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuubs him.
Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 08, 2011 02:56 PM (7YKsD)
People cheat on their spouses. I accept the fact that this happens, but reject the idea that it is acceptable behavior.
When it happens, the majority of people lie about it. Like Chris Rock said about OJ, I understand. Still, I in no way accept this as appropriate behavior.
Just because I understand why someone would do something does not mean I approve. OJ is still a murderer and should have been fried for his crime.
Weiner engaged in inappropriate behavior. For that, he's accountable to his wife. Since it became public and he's a public figure, it becomes a factor that his constituents have every right to consider. Then he lied... repeatedly. That's a second issue and also compounds Teh Stupid.
Clear as day to me. I don't approve of having people who cannot be trusted to maintain a professional demeanor and repeatedly lie to me to be on my payroll.
Posted by: Damiano at June 08, 2011 02:57 PM (3nrx7)
Posted by: Donna at June 08, 2011 02:57 PM (bdE9c)
It's not even the lying itself that is the worst part of this (aside from all the disgusting pics he sent). It is that his lying enabled his cronies in the MFM to attempt to destroy Brietbart's credibility.
If I where Brietbart, I'd be sitting at home laughing my ass off at Weiner's misfortune. But I have a feeling that he isn't as vindictive as I would be.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 08, 2011 02:58 PM (c0A3e)
It's not. And that's not what she's saying.
What she's saying-saying is "everyone I'd fuck lies about sex." She has a type, or a fetish (that maybe isn't rare enough to call a fetish). Lying about sex, which isn't otherwise a dirty thing, makes it hot. It privatizes it, makes bangin' dudes a secret shame, in an era when just bangin' some dudes isn't a shame (and therefore isn't fully hot).
Media complicity in the political "everybody"'s lies about sex is a bond. A sexy bond. There's them, bangin' each other in circles, knowing who's suckin' and fuckin' "everybody"'s suck-and-fuckables, and you out there, the public, presumed to want to know all about the suckin' and fuckin', and having it kept from you. Hot!
The story is about sex. It's a damn dick story. But it's not "about sex" in the way those who pseudo-dismissively say it's "about sex" say it is. Saying that—and maintaining it as the end of your right to know—is how they get off.
You ruined their thing, just a little. And since they maintain their thing at our literal and figurative expense, what you did is good.
And the dick-pic was a fact, even while "everyone" lied about it. You helped stop them lying.
Good.
All good.
Posted by: oblig. at June 08, 2011 02:58 PM (xvZW9)
Posted by: beedubya at June 08, 2011 06:56 PM (AnTyA)
Hello....
Posted by: Hank Johnson at June 08, 2011 02:58 PM (yQWNf)
Posted by: Damiano at June 08, 2011 06:57 PM (3nrx7)
The key is that he did not Lie to JUST his wife... that would be the infedelity...
He then Lied directly to US, to try to cover it up...
The lie to the wife? is between them... the Lie to US, is between HIM and US...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 08, 2011 02:59 PM (NtXW4)
If I ever start to actually feel sorry for Weiner, I'll just imagine what he would be doing if one of his Republican "colleagues" pulled the same stunt.
Fuck Weiner.
Posted by: Dave at June 08, 2011 02:59 PM (HPcQF)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 08, 2011 02:59 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2011 02:59 PM (nj1bB)
You know as was pointed out on Redeye last night, if he's got a narcissitic personality, even now part of him is still loving this because people are talking about him. Even if its bad, its still all about him.
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2011 06:53 PM (oVQFe)
That's why he was making dick jokes to a reporter from the WA Post outside congressional chambers last fucking week. She wrote about it, and let me tell you, he's an asswipe of epic proportions.
At one point, he walked up very close to her, looked over at another reporter with a smirk, and said he looked stiff in the interview with CNN (where he called that producer an asshole). The reporter said something about being too close, and he said she could get as close as she wanted.
Someone should neuter the pig.
Posted by: Steph at June 08, 2011 02:59 PM (AkdC5)
I wonder how people who engage in behavior like this keep their Security Clearance? Their sexual indiscretions set them up for blackmail.
I know in my field (aerospace) I'd have some 'plaining to do.
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at June 08, 2011 02:59 PM (TJ8HB)
Posted by: twiceblessedmom at June 08, 2011 03:00 PM (5zHJe)
Don't be remorseful or regretful. You did a great job in fleshing out this story (even if you didn't get near enough credit for it IMO). Read Jonah Goldberg's comments today at The Corner when he responds to someone else essentially on this subject. His point is that liberals would never ever ever ever ever let a Republican get away with this, they would hound him to the ends of the earth, and if we let their team off the hook, then, well, we are declaring pre-emptive surrender and there is a definite cost associated with that.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 08, 2011 03:00 PM (7mSYS)
Remember who you're talking about. This isn't some schmoe off the street. This is an egotistical asshole who is in a position to actually affect our lives for the worse.
Fuck him. If he dies, he dies.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Uterine Investigations Unit at June 08, 2011 06:53 PM (lGFXF)
Remember also, if he hadn't have screwed up and gotten caught, he still would be doing this. All through her pregnancy, and even after the child is born.
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2011 03:01 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: ErikW at June 08, 2011 03:01 PM (UpKbZ)
Posted by: Rock Hardington at June 08, 2011 03:01 PM (k0TKJ)
Hey Hamlet snap out of it!
Weiner's one of the bad guys, kicking him should be reflexive like stepping on a roach. He just another one of the enemy, what, why, how don't matter. What matters is that we can hurt THEM.
Posted by: Adobe Walls at June 08, 2011 03:01 PM (uKRDQ)
Young sifty jr. will one day ask why Uncle Ace didn't make the bad man go away before we were forced into the saccharine mines.
I will be forced to tell him that Uncle Ace got soft and sentimental and let the snake run back into the tall grass to strike another day.
Sad really.
heh.
Posted by: sifty at June 08, 2011 03:01 PM (2dbd9)
If he is not one who will deliver your political product you will not vote for him. If he does promise but his promise is worthless because he is a liar and has no integrity what good is his promise?
So in the end Weiner's product is shit. I do hope the people in NYC will recognize that. I am sure the communist Party there in NY has another one waiting in the wings to take him place.
Posted by: Vic at June 08, 2011 03:01 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Throbbin' at June 08, 2011 03:02 PM (le5qc)
That's because you're basically a good guy. It's fun to rag on people when they're being condescending a-holes, but simple decency says you don't kick people when they're down, unless they've photographed themselves with erections and posted the shots online and then acted like you were the one being unreasonable.
Posted by: Blacksheep at June 08, 2011 03:02 PM (8/DeP)
LOL, full disclosure though, wish I could say I came up with it, but I stole that from another moron.
Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 08, 2011 03:02 PM (7YKsD)
Posted by: beedubya at June 08, 2011 06:56 PM (AnTyA)
Yo bitch!
Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee at June 08, 2011 03:03 PM (yQWNf)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 08, 2011 03:03 PM (NITzp)
Posted by: Gladiator of Spades holding Weiner's severed "head" up at June 08, 2011 03:03 PM (OAgEn)
I wonder how people who engage in behavior like this keep their Security Clearance? Their sexual indiscretions set them up for blackmail.
I know in my field (aerospace) I'd have some 'plaining to do.
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at June 08, 2011 06:59 PM (TJ8HB)
Obama is a man that would be laughed out of any interview that would require security clearance if he hadn't been a politician.
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2011 03:04 PM (oVQFe)
And also think about some of those same Leftist fucks who STILL refuse to admit they were wrong.
That should shake any second thoughts you're having about 'calling off the fight'.
Posted by: jimg at June 08, 2011 03:04 PM (dM1NM)
Before you get mad at me, bear in mind: I put these doubts down throughout this. It's only now, that it's over, I confess them.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2011 06:59 PM (nj1bB)
Come here ya crazy ewok, you. *group hug*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 08, 2011 03:04 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: sven10077 at June 08, 2011 03:04 PM (kq1lG)
or, in my case ..
From the screen to the brain to the fingers to ...little tony
Posted by: A weiner at June 08, 2011 03:05 PM (uz3hs)
I think what's been established (and has to every time this kind of things happens) is that there aren't two standards. The MFM is happy to attack Republicans but were ready to give this guy a pass. Hell, even mainstream conservative outlets didn't want to do it.
Yeah, it was ugly and in the end all this shit was over Anthony Weiner, Anthony Weiner?, but it had to be done.
They don't own the narrative and the information anymore.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 08, 2011 03:06 PM (Ccb4c)
The part I have trouble beleiving in all this...
This is a powerfull guy... traveling all the time... and has multiple Women (most of whom I would hit) trading suggestive if not explicit email with him... inviting him to come over... and he NEVER TOOK ADVANTAGE of it???
He's either telling lies... again... or someone needs to pull his MAN Card.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 08, 2011 03:06 PM (NtXW4)
but simple decency says you don't kick people when they're down
Thank goodness the AoSHQ Lifestyle© is allergic to decency. :twisted
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 08, 2011 03:06 PM (8rHXV)
Posted by: willow at June 08, 2011 03:06 PM (h+qn8)
Before you get mad at me, bear in mind: I put these doubts down throughout this. It's only now, that it's over, I confess them.
Tickle Fight?
...or grabass in the shower, first?
Posted by: Eric Massa (D) at June 08, 2011 03:06 PM (1sb9C)
I don't know what the hell happened here, really, now, looking back.
I don't know either, but you can see a piece of the puzzle if you look further back than Clinton.
Remeber Gary Hart? His political ambitions were ruined in 1987 with the Donna Rice thing. He threw in the towel after a week. His improper behavior mattered in 1987. By 1992, we heard about Bill Clinton and Gennifer Flowers and smoking dope and anti-America protesting in England and it didn't matter.
You said it a day or two ago: There are kids involved. That's what did in Mark Foley. Lying doesn't matter at all unless, as you said, someone is persoanlly offended and has an axe to grind. Sexual shenanigans don't matter to us as a nation any more, but shenanigans with kids (even if they're 21) still strikes a collective nerve, for now.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 08, 2011 03:07 PM (Rq1/g)
Dr. Drew has made a lot of good observations about society that are linked to current pornography.
Posted by: Pmzey at June 08, 2011 03:07 PM (pmzey)
Posted by: willow at June 08, 2011 07:05 PM (h+qn
My grandfather used to say that to me all the time. Thanks for bringing back a great memory.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 08, 2011 03:07 PM (yQWNf)
Posted by: Donna at June 08, 2011 03:07 PM (bdE9c)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 08, 2011 03:07 PM (2wfuC)
Posted by: imagine at June 08, 2011 03:08 PM (HPcQF)
Sorry, Kirsten, hot as you may be, you still have to choose. Am I a reporter? Then I need to approach this with appropriate skepticism. Am I an ex-lover? Then I shouldn't suggest that my opining is anything other than my musings on how he was in the sack. You can't have it both ways, sugar.
Posted by: pep at June 08, 2011 03:08 PM (6TB1Z)
But what I see is the MSM always attacking conservatives and republicans well beyond the point of personal destruction and it is time we wised up and started to return the favor.
Congressman Weiner initially stated that he was hacked. His wife works closely with the Secretary of State of the United States. Considering the lies he told in the first week of this thing, what would he have done if he'd been blackmailed?
He would have done what the black mailer wanted, and maybe his wife too. Neither one should have a security clearance, but they do. Weiner compromised himself, his wife and the Secretary of State.
There are many good and sound reasons why Weiner and his wife should leave public service. At the least, for one simple reason: their game just isn't good enough.
It is also time to really show how the MSM and liberal thugs that conservatives will use the same tactics they do...we didn't start it, but we will finish it.
Weiner, his wife Huma, and the child (if there really is one, I would like to see a positive result from a pregnancy test) should leave American public life. Is there going to be a sudden mis-carriage in the future? All to garner a sympathy vote for Weiner? Seriously. I wouldn't put it past them and the Clintons.
Posted by: Jack at June 08, 2011 03:08 PM (kCT7A)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 08, 2011 03:08 PM (NITzp)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 08, 2011 07:01 PM (2wfuC)
Excellent! As usual, Steyn nails it and as usual, his wordplay is unparalleled!
Posted by: ErikW at June 08, 2011 03:09 PM (UpKbZ)
If you get caught in a sex scandal, do you have to resign? Or is that only for Republicans?
And should the press investigate "just sex" stuff or simply accept any semi-plausible excuse a pol comes up with?
So if Weiner is forced to resign, one benefit of #weinergate is that it does set a precedent for any other Democrats caught up in a sex scandal.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 08, 2011 03:09 PM (pAlYe)
Yeah, actually, I'm already starting to regret my "regrets" post, because seriously, he was so flagrant he was going to get caught. I'ts like he WANTED to get caught.
It's not about the sex or the lying, Weiner is CRAZY. It's like he was saying "Please stop me, before I sext again!"
Posted by: Speller at June 08, 2011 03:09 PM (J74Py)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2011 03:09 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 08, 2011 03:09 PM (NITzp)
Posted by: sifty at June 08, 2011 03:10 PM (2dbd9)
Ace fans get 1000 words confessions of mixed emotions.
Okay, of course I'm sticking with Ace but WTH? I thought the Alpha males were on our side?
Posted by: Rocks at June 08, 2011 03:10 PM (th0op)
Posted by: pep at June 08, 2011 07:08 PM (6TB1Z)
agree.
Posted by: willow at June 08, 2011 03:10 PM (h+qn8)
Hardly the type of "human" being one feels a great deal of sympathy for don't you think? Try over at Kos they may be feeling the "love" for Mr. Weiner....
Posted by: Donna at June 08, 2011 03:10 PM (bdE9c)
That's all they taught me in internet school. Recipe for trouble, that.
Posted by: Ward, I Think You're Being Hard on The Beaver.Wally, Givin' Beaver The Business. at June 08, 2011 03:10 PM (ay6+/)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2011 03:10 PM (7wmOW)
It's not about the sex or the lying, Weiner is CRAZY. It's like he was saying "Please stop me, before I sext again!"
Posted by: Speller at June 08, 2011 07:09 PM (J74Py)
or its like in the Movie 'The Count of Monte Cristo', where Fernand comes back from the duel with his lovers Husband... and is confronted by his wife...
Being discovered can be... Liberating...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 08, 2011 03:11 PM (NtXW4)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 08, 2011 03:11 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2011 03:11 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: Ward, I Think You're Being Hard on The Beaver. at June 08, 2011 03:11 PM (ay6+/)
If he toughs this out and does not resign, he will easily win reelection in '12. That is, if they don't redistrict him out.
And that would be excellent news, a reelection, IMHO. I want him to stay. Forever. He's a fucking laughingstock, and can be well-used by us.
Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at June 08, 2011 03:11 PM (4sQwu)
Posted by: Gov98 at June 08, 2011 03:11 PM (QhLwY)
Posted by: R. Bud Dwyer at June 08, 2011 03:12 PM (le5qc)
Posted by: sTevo at June 08, 2011 03:12 PM (hiMsy)
If it weren't about the sex, there'd be no reason to lie
'I'm more attracted to you than ever, honey.'
Posted by: or is this not what you meant? at June 08, 2011 03:13 PM (1sb9C)
Huma is likely suffering though , and i'd hate a real uncovered penis pic to come out. i always think of elizabeth edwards i don't liek her, but hated her knowing all that crap while she was fighting dieing and worried about her kids.
but i realize news is news. and this is a salacious (sp)story
Posted by: willow at June 08, 2011 03:14 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 08, 2011 03:14 PM (XmqZJ)
There are many good and sound reasons why Weiner and his wife should leave public service. At the least, for one simple reason: their game just isn't good enough.
Heh. Reminds me of the East India Trading Company's attitude towards embezzlement. If you aren't competent enough to steal from the company, you aren't competent enough to steal for the company.
One of you morons brought that up months ago and I'll admit I got a kick out of it.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 08, 2011 03:14 PM (8rHXV)
This, from someone who is ideologically in line with Kos? Give me a break.
Posted by: Slublog at June 08, 2011 03:14 PM (0zKkE)
Posted by: giftogab at June 08, 2011 03:15 PM (SPVfc)
Instead... they refused to believe it and put out weird lies and conspiracy theories. Watching liberals' response to this has been creepy.
I didn't really see ace as fighting with Weiner so much as fighting with the left's weird make-believe world-view.
(As to why I never cared much: I don't expect any better of a leftist jerk like him. I mean, come on; Bill Clinton officiated his wedding.)
Posted by: sandy burger at June 08, 2011 03:15 PM (XyoGP)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2011 03:15 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: imagine at June 08, 2011 07:08 PM (HPcQF)
Joe, I sure hope that's you, and if it's not I'm glad that it's in teh intewebs, 'cause frankly I'm not in the mood to put up with fucking idiots.
Just be happy, imagine, that you can't feel the cruel within me right now.
Posted by: Steph at June 08, 2011 03:15 PM (AkdC5)
Weiner is only sorry he got caught. That's it.
If Weiner had had the power, he would have had you and Breitbart arrested. And Huma and Hillary would have laughed about it. Still feel sorry for him now?
Posted by: Jack at June 08, 2011 03:15 PM (kCT7A)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 08, 2011 03:15 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2011 07:10 PM (7wmOW)
It hit 95 here today and I was tasked with digging up and repairing irrigation heads.
Out of clay and black shale.
I haven't figured out my revenge yet but it WILL be sweet!
Posted by: ErikW at June 08, 2011 03:15 PM (UpKbZ)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 08, 2011 03:16 PM (0vDuM)
Nah, Anthony is selfish - he only takes pictures of himself.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 08, 2011 03:16 PM (c0A3e)
Humanity? These onerous humans that call themselves THE WEINERS are the makers of their own fate. Wehn you lie with dogs you get fleas, and she shares his infestation.
Posted by: giftogab at June 08, 2011 03:16 PM (SPVfc)
Well, 7PM has come and gone. Guess it was just rumor.
Posted by: Soona at June 08, 2011 03:16 PM (sqJL0)
Was anyone else alarmed at that part of her article where the congressman makes a call to the state department to help get her in-laws out of Egypt?
Do you suppose that's how the system works? You have to know a congressman who can make that call?
My guess is that's how Obamacare will work, too. Granny's on her deathbed and can't get that wonderdrug she needs? Sure hope someone in the family has a congressman as an ex-boyfriend.
Dan
Posted by: Dan at June 08, 2011 03:17 PM (/pW6I)
Heh. Guess which other profession hasn't the most honest group of people? I love the stone casting on display. This "journalist" person with an a-hole voluntarily covered for Weiner with a designed distraction (and sorta asserted against accumulated evidence) and finds religion when she is personally embarrassed by events. Now the standard has been crossed.
Talk about low standards. Megyn Kelly needs to come back and tap dance on Power's integrity some more.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 08, 2011 03:17 PM (1yViP)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2011 03:17 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: It's All About Me, Kirsten Powers at June 08, 2011 03:17 PM (wOaLi)
Posted by: ryukyu at June 08, 2011 03:17 PM (MOHSR)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 08, 2011 03:17 PM (NITzp)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 08, 2011 03:18 PM (AZGON)
I think this is why I yelled and bitched when not enough people on the right were, to my line of thinking, pushing the story hard enough. I thought maybe they were sort of looking at this in Prisoner's Dilemma terms and deciding that something like mutual restraint was the best strategy for both parties here.
We should come down on our own...hard, fast, and loud...shame the fuck out of them as a warning to others that we won't put up with their shit
Posted by: beedubya at June 08, 2011 03:18 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Milton Shapp at June 08, 2011 03:18 PM (le5qc)
Powers: We are all flawed human beings, and this is not about meting out judgment. ItÂ’s about having some sort of standard for what the Democratic Party stands for
Bull. If this is about “what the Democratic Party stands for”, then Powers would have written a lot of the stuff in this article a week ago. Instead, she went out and gave her good little truthless talking points on national TV like the Democratic operative she is.
What the “Democratic Party stands for” is demonizing their opposition even in the face of their worst, most embarrassing and shameless scandals. Tax dodging, deviance and big business cronyism are commonplace among the party’s most outspoken representatives, and we’re expected to have faith that they’re leading our country in the right direction.
Now that Weiner has become a millstone around their party’s neck, they turn on him like the jackals they always claim Republicans to be. I’m not impressed by Ms. Powers’ “tell all”. It comes at a time when she needs her party’s “good” name saved, and no one is bigger than the party.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 08, 2011 03:18 PM (5I0Yr)
Arrested? Shit, they'd attach car batteries to your nuts, beat you half to death with blunt objects, and make you watch The View before forcing you to dig your own grave with a teaspoon and shooting you in the back of the head.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 08, 2011 03:19 PM (0vDuM)
This is how it goes, and by posting a link to Zombie's article about hypocrisy you know it: These assholes pretend to be moral, upstanding citizens and get married because it looks good for the camera, press, and in general the middle class white voting block. Not all of them, mind you, but a good deal of them are married for political purposes. (Side note: Feudalism is back! Lets marry off Queen Elizabeth I already)
In these political marriages, of COURSE they're as likely to cheat as any other activity, as the marriage wasn't based on a commitment to a lifetime of love and happiness, therefore it means nothing. Of COURSE they trot out after getting busted, crying their crocodile tears, talks of how it affects his "wife." Do I feel guilty about him possibly being forced to resign? Hell no. Fuck him.
You hammered the media for buying his cheap, stupid lie, you hammered the media about spinning for it, for coming up with possible "proof" that he was indeed hacked, and you hammered them for flat out ignoring it until it was so big they couldn't. They were blatantly covering for this asshole, and you hammered them for it. Don't feel guilty about Wiener or his family, since he was just an accessory to the real target: The Make Believe Media.
Have a nice day, and keep up the good work.
Posted by: Cheesecake at June 08, 2011 03:19 PM (PvIgr)
Really? Trig Palin.
Now go back to Kos or DU.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 08, 2011 03:19 PM (UOM48)
And Powers to an arab. They could double date on vacations in Dubai.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 08, 2011 07:17 PM (G/MYk)
Five bucks says Powers is packing heat, IYKWIM.
Posted by: ErikW at June 08, 2011 03:19 PM (UpKbZ)
You managed the wounded sanctimony of an average liberal quite well.
Hmmmm...maybe too well...is there something you need to tell us, Dave?
Posted by: Slublog at June 08, 2011 03:19 PM (0zKkE)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 08, 2011 03:20 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Dave at June 08, 2011 03:20 PM (HPcQF)
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 08, 2011 03:20 PM (HwOb7)
But The Weiner himself? Fuck him. He sowed, and the harvest moon is now rising. He's a sleazebag...and we don't even know yet just how much is left to ooze from the bag.
Posted by: Stu-22 at June 08, 2011 03:20 PM (k4bdL)
Posted by: Scorned Fury at June 08, 2011 03:20 PM (AZFgs)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 08, 2011 03:20 PM (2wfuC)
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 08, 2011 03:21 PM (HwOb7)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2011 03:21 PM (nj1bB)
As I've said before... its not the *expletive deleted* crime... its the *multiple expeltive deleted* coverup
and this *expletive deleted* guy is giving us guys named after Penis's, a bad name...
Posted by: Ticky Dick Nixon at June 08, 2011 03:21 PM (NtXW4)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at June 08, 2011 03:21 PM (QcFbt)
Arrested? Shit, they'd attach car batteries to your nuts, beat you half to death with blunt objects, and make you watch The View before forcing you to dig your own grave with a teaspoon and shooting you in the back of the head.
You owe me a Keyboard.
Posted by: Bill Maher at June 08, 2011 03:21 PM (1sb9C)
Posted by: Aline Kathrine at June 08, 2011 03:22 PM (F730C)
Her good friend *cough* the Secretary of State couldn't be bothered to do that for her?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 08, 2011 03:22 PM (0vDuM)
The 'as long as he votes the right way' attitude is the empowerment of it. It says that the only important thing is the government teat. It lets them know that the payoff works on the voters, too, and that all the mutual ass-covering in Washington will be overlooked (indeed, encouraged) as long as they keep up the payoffs.
Amanda Marcotte ceded power to Weiner that he used like a king to draw in all his little cyber-fuckbuddies, and she's fine with it as long as the payoffs keep coming. Clinton was this x10.
And so we get graft, perversion, criminality, lack of ethics, unresponsive government (as long as the tap stays on full), overspending, cronyism, bribery, socialism, and America on the edge of insolvency with its social fabric eroded away by decades of government's depredation of it.
Posted by: nickless at June 08, 2011 03:22 PM (MMC8r)
Fixed it for the slime at Salon.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 08, 2011 03:22 PM (UOM48)
Oh, and Ace, the next time something is out there that can take down another of these pricks, don't you dare wuss out.
It needs to be done until they all realize we're watching them. Maybe only then will they understand that they better act like the people's representatives, or we will kick them out one way or the other.
Posted by: Steph at June 08, 2011 03:22 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 08, 2011 03:22 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 08, 2011 03:23 PM (AZGON)
Face it Ace, we're in a civil war. Everyone who is paying attention knows we're in a fucking civil war. We have been since the 60s with increasing intensity each decade it seems.
If we get squeemish over a blog-hit on a well-deserving enemy-target, how are we going to handle it when the war goes hot?
Don't get me wrong, I don't have a well-stocked bunker, but I'm not going to be suprised when the war goes hot.
Posted by: Dave at June 08, 2011 03:23 PM (HPcQF)
Do we give murders a break when we find out one is going to be a parent? NO.
Do we give other felons/criminals a break when we find out one is going to be a parent? NO
Why should we do any different here?
Posted by: Robert at June 08, 2011 03:23 PM (91Ty7)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at June 08, 2011 07:21 PM (QcFbt)
FTFY.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 08, 2011 03:24 PM (yQWNf)
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2011 07:20 PM (1sb9C)
TONY DANZA!!!
Wait, wrong work order...
Posted by: guy who can't read a fucking work order at June 08, 2011 03:24 PM (UpKbZ)
I completely blew off, as someone mentioned, the shit about framing Brietbart and PatriotUSA, too.
Fuck it, dude. Let's go Bowling.
Posted by: Walter Sobchek at June 08, 2011 03:25 PM (1sb9C)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2011 03:25 PM (7wmOW)
You stupid bitter clingers, always insisting women who make a mistake be punished with a baby.
Posted by: Barry O at June 08, 2011 03:25 PM (0vDuM)
It's pathetic.
Dic-pics to co-eds. Pathetic.
Even for a loser high-school kid it's pathetic.
For a loser 40-year-old it's creepy.
For a 40-year-old Congressman, it's creepy and bizarre.
For a 40-year-old Congressman married less than a year, it's psychopathic.
That's his biggest problem here. A long-term affair with somebody of the same age: meh. Up to his constituents to decide. Seeing prostitutes: Up to law enforcement and then the constituents.
But this is just ick. Just ick.
I agree with this: politically, I want him there for decades to come, but on a human level, I just want somebody to tell him it's over.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 08, 2011 03:26 PM (73tyQ)
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Posted by: partypants at June 08, 2011 03:26 PM (P5tPi)
I don't give a what-all that his wife's pregnant. Doesn't that make his behavior even worse in retrospect?
The point in all this is that the media was finally badgered and forced into treating a lying scumbag like they should have in the first place, instead of protecting him due to his Democratic status.
If it hadn't been for your work, ace, and others such as Breitbart, this whole thing would have been swept under the rug like yesterday's lint. "Oops." No one would have made a peep.
This guy could have come out with a mea culpa and put the story to bed. Instead, he came out swinging... from the rope he gave himself. He started the claim of "Hacked!" which turned into "Evil Breitbart hacked a congressman!!!11!!"
Don't feel sorry for the bastard. Sit back with a pudding cup and enjoy the satisfaction of seeing the media forced into doing their damn job.
Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at June 08, 2011 03:26 PM (Mk/IQ)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 08, 2011 03:26 PM (NITzp)
Posted by: joeindc44 at June 08, 2011 03:27 PM (QxSug)
"A person close to Mr. Weiner said he still is determined to hold onto the seat he first won in 1998. But Democratic aides said that if he continues to resist calls to resign, the situation could reach a boiling point Monday when House members return to Washington."
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 08, 2011 03:27 PM (2wfuC)
She is only sometimes nice to conservatives for a paycheck.
Posted by: Pmzey at June 08, 2011 03:27 PM (pmzey)
Ace,
This incessant navel-gazing is unseemly, frankly.
If it's not about the sex ... then it's about the BLACKMAIL. Let's face it, middle America doesn't much cotton to the idea of Congressman using their power to seduce our children and write how they want to "gag" them with their cocks.
Yes, Anthony Weiner wrote that. Is it about that? Yes, I think, yes, it is about that.
But if it's not, then it's about how easy it is to blackmail such a Congressman. We're at war with three other countries right now and there are countless spies from those countries who are looking for any way to compromise as many members of our Congress as they possibly can ... not to mention the economic war we are in with the government of China.
His sex potentially ENDANGERS my country. So yes, I'm sorry, it's about the sex.
I have committed myself to ending the careers of these Democrat Socialists by whatever means necessary. Because I believe they want to use their power to cock-gag the United States of America. If they get their way, our country is over with, dude. And your speech rights with it.
And I will make no apologies about the manner in which I destroy these fucking assholes. I proudly wear that banner.
If you're not up for the fight, Ace, say so. Step aside and let others do the work. But make no mistake about it you and we are fighting for the future of our country and people like Anthony Weiner are trying to destroy our country and doing so in the most reckless way possible.
Buck up, goddamit, man.
Quit this bullshit navel gazing, spit upon your hands, hoist the black flag, and start fucking slitting some throats.
Posted by: someguy at June 08, 2011 03:27 PM (iIQ0a)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 08, 2011 03:27 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 08, 2011 03:28 PM (1yViP)
MSNBC placed an ad buy on my site in late 2006, before the elections. The ad was intended to be -- from the looks of it -- a rotating headlines ad, in which they'd update the headlines every few days.
They never updated it.
For three months, I had the Mark Foley story at the top of the column. Because that's the story MSNBC wanted on conservative websites.
Whenever you start doubting yourself, think of this backstabbing shit. These ratfucking cockholsters don't deserve our respect or sympathy.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 08, 2011 03:28 PM (8rHXV)
Ace, I think your initial bit would have been understandable had this been a sex scandal and we were piling on. But honestly Weiner and Liberal Blogs and the media decided to use the initial claims of a Hack to their advantage. So it became more than just a sex scandal. It became an accusation of another Vast Rightwing Conspiracy. But this time the Conspiracy would actually have been a real crime, hacking the user information of a sitting congressman.
They attempted to use his lie in an effort to smear and discredit conservatives again.
What would have been a few jokes on late night TV and a presser about how he had acted inappropriately they ballooned into accusations and attempts to smear. And the quickest way to end this was to pull out the cornerstone, which was Weiner in this case.
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2011 03:28 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at June 08, 2011 03:28 PM (QcFbt)
We KNOW we will get hammered. And even if there were some magical agreement, the Dems believe in taqiyya.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 08, 2011 03:28 PM (73tyQ)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2011 03:29 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: sTevo at June 08, 2011 03:29 PM (hiMsy)
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2011 03:29 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 08, 2011 03:29 PM (AZGON)
We need a third party. Let's call it the Pony Party.
The Pony Party considers important agenda items such as employment and the economy, monetary policy, fiscal policy, the solvency of entitlement programs, national security and defense, the campaigns in Asia and North Africa, international relations and trade, and a broad range of social issues.
In the end, members of the Pony Party will support the candidate that gives the voter a pony.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 08, 2011 03:30 PM (Rq1/g)
Off topic but I know there are a lot of conservative fanboys (bloggers here, etc.) of Allsion Rosen.
I'd still hit it.
Three times a day.
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2011 03:30 PM (1sb9C)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 08, 2011 03:30 PM (0vDuM)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2011 03:30 PM (7wmOW)
Don't bet against Breitbart.
Posted by: George Orwell at June 08, 2011 07:29 PM (AZGON)
And Weiner better hope that Breitbart doesn't #hack his resignation press conference too.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 08, 2011 03:31 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 08, 2011 03:31 PM (5I0Yr)
Huma's proudest day in life would be the day communism was mandated in this country.
I have more sympathy for crabgrass in my garden.
Besides, it's just a lump of tissue, right, Huma?
Posted by: sifty at June 08, 2011 03:31 PM (2dbd9)
Posted by: someguy at June 08, 2011 07:27 PM (iIQ0a)
Someguy Puches Up, Someguy Punches Down, Someguy Punches All Around!
Posted by: Never enough 'Hot Dog' Refs at June 08, 2011 03:31 PM (1sb9C)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2011 07:29 PM (nj1bB)
Well, we're just trying to make sure you stay overcome.
Posted by: Steph at June 08, 2011 03:31 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2011 03:32 PM (nj1bB)
I guess no one's reading the updates because the new sub-headline is "In Which I Overcome These Doubts."
The Ewok never has doubts.
Posted by: IE Con at June 08, 2011 03:32 PM (/COcn)
House Members (6)
Allyson Schwartz, Pennsylvania
Joe Donnelly, Indiana
Larry Kissell, North Carolina
Mike Michaud, Arkansas
Mike Ross, Arkansas
Niki Tsongas, Massachusetts
Former House Members
Patrick Murphy, Pennsylvania
Senate Candidates
Tim Kaine, Virginia
Senators
Patrick Leahy, Vermont
Mark Pryor, Arkansas
Posted by: AmishDude at June 08, 2011 03:32 PM (73tyQ)
"How many coeds do you have to dick-dial behind the back of your pregnant wife before someone notices that maybe that's not exactly congruent with the teachings of Gloria Steinem? "
A key tenet of the NLP speed seduction programs should be copping the attitude of the stalwart liberal, in order to get intot he panties of fine women everywhere.
Seems like you'd get off scott free this way.
Hell, it seems to work pretty well, you can abuse the shit out of liberal women, and they LOVE IT.
Hell, who hasn't seen this anyway? It happens over and over. Anyone who has been to college has seen it.
The cool dude with the little Che purse thingy, the cool Mao lighter, the poses...he can abuse the living shit out of kinda hot chicks and they just come back for more.
Liberalism is a lot about just plain old being a dickhead thug.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz at June 08, 2011 03:33 PM (s5aNX)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 08, 2011 03:33 PM (XmqZJ)
Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at June 08, 2011 03:33 PM (HPcQF)
I guess no one's reading the updates because the new sub-headline is "In Which I Overcome These Doubts."
Jeez, Ace, when you say "there's more" I look for the addendum. I didn't know I had to go all the way back to the top.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 08, 2011 03:33 PM (Rq1/g)
Update: In Which I Overcome These Doubts
I love a good overcoming-the-odds story.
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 08, 2011 03:34 PM (jpSQq)
Kirsten Powers: "I highly doubt that what he said in his press conference is even true"
Something tells me that their short relationship history includes some unseemly shit, that she's not as surprised as she claims.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 08, 2011 03:34 PM (8rHXV)
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at June 08, 2011 03:34 PM (xy9wk)
Weiner was the obnoxious kid who always bitched about being picked last and told to play left field.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at June 08, 2011 03:34 PM (cwFVA)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2011 03:34 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 08, 2011 03:35 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 08, 2011 07:31 PM (pAlYe)
Break out another carton of pudding if that occurs.
I still say that every news hour should lead with Breitbart's #hack presser, every hour. For, say... the next couple of months. The ratchet it down to once a week until the end of time or Breitbart tops it.
Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at June 08, 2011 03:35 PM (Mk/IQ)
...but they give her gas and she's noisy about it...and whenever she farts, she turns around real quick with a look on her face that says "the hell...did you hear that?"
Posted by: beedubya at June 08, 2011 03:35 PM (AnTyA)
'Third Rate Romance' hahaha hah aha.
I'll even tell you I love you if you want me to. H ahaha hahahha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1KtIJq5s4g&feature=fvsr
Posted by: the Charlie Daniels of the torque wrench at June 08, 2011 03:36 PM (le5qc)
Posted by: AmishDude at June 08, 2011 07:28 PM (73tyQ)
I finally looked it up. A religion couched in cowardice. It explains everything, really.
Posted by: ErikW at June 08, 2011 03:36 PM (UpKbZ)
She is pretty, no doubt. I just thought I should point it out because it has slipped past the radar (even in the articles about Titus) and she is sometimes perceived as an ally.
Maybe it was just a stupid joke but if you or I made the opposite joke it would be *knock Knock
*who's there?
*party van!!
Posted by: Pmzey at June 08, 2011 03:36 PM (pmzey)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2011 07:21 PM (nj1bB) YAY! This makes my day. The moment there is a letup they will try to insert some other headline to push him off the front page and tell us all there is nothing to see here. So hang in and keep teh push on! We can all have pudding at resignation time!
Posted by: giftogab at June 08, 2011 03:36 PM (SPVfc)
Imagine the pillow talk.
Posted by: Marcus at June 08, 2011 03:36 PM (TIj5q)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 08, 2011 03:36 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: tangonine at June 08, 2011 03:37 PM (x3YFz)
I did wonder, "Am I doing a man's job here? Or am I just being a nasty internet bastard?"
Why not both?
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 08, 2011 03:37 PM (0zKHM)
although I feel sorry for Huma, He seems to have a problem with responsibilty to others, Huma, a child, and His constituents. I guess He doesn't mind everyone being drug through the mud.
so i guess we have to keep pushing until He does not represent the People of the United States any longer.
Posted by: willow at June 08, 2011 03:37 PM (h+qn8)
...when you say "there's more" I look for the addendum. I didn't know I had to go all the way back to the top.
Is this one of the Weiner Sext Tweets?
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2011 03:37 PM (1sb9C)
@13: "It's a lot more than that to Powers, and rightfully so. Weiner specifically leveraged his personal relationship with her -- their romance in the past, all the times they had spoken since, whatever trust that had been accumulated through that -- and used it in order to get Powers to go out there and unwittingly shill for his lies. He specifically asked to her go and talk to the media about what good boyfriend he was, for fuck's sake! That's FOUL. That's a huge, deeply *personal* betrayal to Powers, on a level much different from that of Weiner lying to any typical journalist.
She has a right to be furious."
No, she doesn't. She has no business fucking someone she's supposed to be reporting on.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at June 08, 2011 03:38 PM (xy9wk)
Too much work otherwise.
Posted by: George Orwell at June 08, 2011 07:36 PM (AZGON)
I look at the scroll bar. If it's smaller than 1/2 an inch... all the way to the bottom.
Posted by: tangonine at June 08, 2011 03:38 PM (x3YFz)
Has Weiner finally jumped the shark?
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at June 08, 2011 07:37 PM (cwFVA)
No but he has a pic of the sharks shlong. He tweeted it....
Posted by: kodak moment at June 08, 2011 03:38 PM (SPVfc)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2011 03:39 PM (7wmOW)
"Weiner's staff left his office suite largely unattended, while they wandered the halls, looking for other jobs."
Posted by: Scorned Fury at June 08, 2011 03:39 PM (AZFgs)
BTW, is it right to note that @PatriotUSA76 is the smartest person in the world.
I read that awkward chat interview, but time and time again he wrote that he didn't want to be in this thing. Well, shortly thereafter, he wasn't necessary for anything and he dropped off the radar and Weiner is still imploding.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 08, 2011 03:39 PM (73tyQ)
O/T...but my puppy Gonzo the Ridiculous just craps me up. Her favorite treat is a bully stick...which is stretched, dried and cut to length bull dick
...but they give her gas and she's noisy about it...and whenever she farts, she turns around real quick with a look on her face that says "the hell...did you hear that?"
Winner of oddest thread-interlude of the day.
/tips hat
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 08, 2011 03:39 PM (0zKHM)
Posted by: Gov98 at June 08, 2011 03:39 PM (QhLwY)
I would not go this far, but... when you consider what is routinely, to this day, done to Palin's kids, it is hard to blame the sentiment.
Posted by: George Orwell at June 08, 2011 07:35 PM (AZGON)
I don't think that's going too far, personally. They want us dead, why shouldn't we wish the same on them?
Posted by: ErikW at June 08, 2011 03:39 PM (UpKbZ)
I only play a hardass on the internet.
Very tired of hearing how some liberal power couple is having a beautiful, important, worthwhile child of God that must alter our perception of the couple.
And every other pregnant woman is carrying a lump of tissue that can be murdered at will up to the point it can drive practically.
Posted by: sifty at June 08, 2011 03:40 PM (2dbd9)
"I guess no one's reading the updates because the new sub-headline is "In Which I Overcome These Doubts."
Frankly, Ace, it was so far down the navel-gazing post. I didn't even get to it beore I had to stop and compose a reply before I could even finish reading your post. I was that angry.
Watch Flashy Tony in this interview wtih Jonathan Karl. Take careful note of how he doesn't just deny the allegations ... he sits there for 10 minutes lecturing Karl about what a moron he is for even asking him any questions about something Karl obviously knows nothing about.
This guy is a fucking psychopath, dude I have zero sympathy for him and his wife is free to leave him and if she does I'll give her some symphathy and her kid.
But he is going to be gone from the United States Congress by every means at my disposal and I have absolutely no hesitations about it whatsoever.
Posted by: someguy at June 08, 2011 03:40 PM (iIQ0a)
Kirsten Powers is mad at Weiner because he convinced her a 4-inch dick was normal, and then she discovers with her Arab husband that it was a lie because the new norm is 5-inches.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at June 08, 2011 03:41 PM (cwFVA)
________
She's just looking for the barking spiders.
Posted by: Anachronda at June 08, 2011 03:41 PM (IrbU4)
Posted by: Trainer at June 08, 2011 03:41 PM (Whjz/)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 08, 2011 03:41 PM (AZGON)
He can hang on by his fingertips as much as he wants to, it's only a matter of time before some surefooted Democrat comes by and stomps on them. I'm getting the popcorn ready.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 08, 2011 03:42 PM (5I0Yr)
It wouldn't be a huge surprise that if one day when she lifts the lid to check on the halal/kosher dinner she's whipping up that Huma finds a dead bunny staring back at her
Posted by: beedubya at June 08, 2011 03:42 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Lawrence of the Labia at June 08, 2011 03:42 PM (ZQ+/s)
No waaaay he deserves sympathy now.
ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME!
Posted by: It's All About Me, Kirsten Powers at June 08, 2011 03:42 PM (wOaLi)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2011 03:43 PM (7wmOW)
And every other pregnant woman is carrying a lump of tissue that can be murdered at will
---
Well said, sifty.
It's funny about Weiner's wife being pregnant. This morning as I was driving and my mind was wandering, I found myself thinking "what if she's pregnant?" Then I come home after all that painting and find out she is.
Posted by: Y-not at June 08, 2011 03:43 PM (TFxd0)
Posted by: Rightwingva at June 08, 2011 03:44 PM (btDMH)
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at June 08, 2011 07:34 PM (cwFVA)
Urh that's usually right field, but point taken
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2011 07:39 PM (7wmOW)
In Little League, the scrubs usually got sent out to left field. I've never heard of kids being picked last and sent to right field. RF is too important a position to man with Weiner-types. They usually went to left field.
Posted by: joejm65 at June 08, 2011 03:44 PM (BDB5n)
It's a scam
Posted by: Trainer at June 08, 2011 07:41 PM (Whjz/)
No, no. See, she hasn't shown up in public since this whole thing broke because she's in the back room giving birth right now. Next time she shows up, the kid will be out of the public eye - 'cause, you know, don't bring a politician's kids into it, whatever you do.
Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at June 08, 2011 03:44 PM (Mk/IQ)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 08, 2011 03:44 PM (TMB3S)
Weiner however doesn't need to resign because the black mark that he left on Congress doesn't really effect what is expected of Congress?
Ohio State has to compete in the free market for students and donors.
Congress robs our pockets every farkin' day. Pricks.
Posted by: Y-not at June 08, 2011 03:44 PM (TFxd0)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 08, 2011 03:44 PM (AZGON)
And every other pregnant woman is carrying a lump of tissue that can be murdered at will up to the point it can drive practically.
THIS.
(I'm also really fascinated that not a single progg has taken Obama to task for threatening to cut off all the federal "low-income healthcare" funds to Indiana if they don't promise to use them to kill babies. Apparently they don't give a shit what happens to poor babies if the mother makes the "choice" they don't accept...)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 08, 2011 03:44 PM (0vDuM)
Posted by: beedubya at June 08, 2011 07:35 PM (AnTyA)
LOL! I had a dog that did that, too! He, also, after every meal would walk up to you, and burp right in your face, and I'm talking a burp that made his lips flap. As long as I had that dog, I lol'd every single time.
I loved that dog, and miss him to this day.
Posted by: Steph at June 08, 2011 03:45 PM (AkdC5)
In Little League, the scrubs usually got sent out to left field. I've never heard of kids being picked last and sent to right field. RF is too important a position to man with Weiner-types. They usually went to left field.
Posted by: joejm65 at June 08, 2011 07:44 PM (BDB5n)
Yep. I always got sent out to left field. And then got yelled at because I didn't catch the ball that got lobbed out my way...
Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at June 08, 2011 03:45 PM (Mk/IQ)
Part of being the former is doing the latter. - Stuff Jefferson Would've Said Had He An Internet, Vol I.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 08, 2011 03:45 PM (1yViP)
Shared with the rotting corpse of the drunk, manslaughtering, philandering, cowardly Ted Kennedy.
Don't forget "Soviet-loving traitor".
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 08, 2011 03:45 PM (8rHXV)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2011 03:46 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at June 08, 2011 03:46 PM (ldUCK)
Posted by: Lawrence of the Labia at June 08, 2011 07:42 PM (ZQ+/s)
You an Ohioan? Gene Smith is doomed and Gee might be looking for a new job soon.
Posted by: ErikW at June 08, 2011 03:46 PM (UpKbZ)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at June 08, 2011 03:46 PM (QcFbt)
Bear in mind I Alpha-Maled this stuff down through the ordeal itself.
It's only now, that it's all but over, that I'm confessing this.
Yeah, at some points, I did wonder, "Am I doing a man's job here? Or am I just being a nasty internet bastard?"
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2011 07:34 PM (nj1bB)
All's forgiven Ace. remember...
Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke. Publish.
Posted by: Rocks at June 08, 2011 03:47 PM (th0op)
You know what bothers me about the Weiner atrocity? It finally struck me last night: What if it wasn't Breitbart who got hold of the photo? What if it was islamofascists or the mob, and they used the pictures to blackmail a member of Congress? It's not the sexting, which I think it more normal than we like to believe. Nor is it the lying. They are all scummy liars. It's the fact that this guy didn't have enough judgement to honor his responsibility to me.
I don't want to live in a country where the laws are being made by people owned by our enemies.
Posted by: Truman North at June 08, 2011 03:47 PM (G5JPI)
Posted by: Pmzey at June 08, 2011 03:48 PM (pmzey)
Posted by: FUBAR at June 08, 2011 03:48 PM (1fanL)
OT
I just discovered something pretty cool which I'm sure most of you morons already know, but got to share anyway.
Bull-baiting was a popular pastime in 18th century England. People would chain a bull to a stake in an enclosed pit or structure and sick dogs on it. The dogs would bite the bull and hang on until the bull flung them off sometimes to amazing heights resulting in many canine broken necks and backs when they fell back to earth. So, BULLDOGS were specifically bred for bull baiting with their immense and powerful jaws and short bodies that resisted flinging.
Michael Vick was born too late.
Posted by: Dave at June 08, 2011 03:49 PM (HPcQF)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 08, 2011 03:49 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Lawrence of the Labia at June 08, 2011 03:49 PM (ZQ+/s)
if he resigns, we need a Flaming Hammer
cuz Ace was slicin like a fuckin hammer for the last week and a half
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 08, 2011 03:49 PM (c+lud)
The most loathsome prick in Congress?
1. Raul "Tarantula Head" Grijalva
2. Sheila Jackson Lee
3. Anthony Weiner
4. Maxipad Waters
5. Lisa Murkowski
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at June 08, 2011 03:49 PM (cwFVA)
Late to the thread here.
Skimmed the post.
Sent Kristin Powers and Gloria Steinem pictures of my prick.
Anything else you need representin' on ?
Posted by: Congressman Loepen B. DeMule at June 08, 2011 03:49 PM (j/Wpi)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 08, 2011 03:50 PM (AZGON)
He's like his own Matrix, but funkier.
Posted by: sifty at June 08, 2011 03:50 PM (2dbd9)
Wut?? There's difference?
Posted by: beedubya at June 08, 2011 03:50 PM (AnTyA)
You know what bothers me about the Weiner atrocity? It finally struck me last night: What if it wasn't Breitbart who got hold of the photo? What if it was islamofascists or the mob, and they used the pictures to blackmail a member of Congress? It's not the sexting, which I think it more normal than we like to believe. Nor is it the lying. They are all scummy liars. It's the fact that this guy didn't have enough judgement to honor his responsibility to me.
exactly
Posted by: willow at June 08, 2011 03:50 PM (h+qn8)
I'm still calling for Weiner to tough it out and stay.
Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at June 08, 2011 03:50 PM (4sQwu)
All's forgiven Ace. remember...
Fuck #Hack 'em if they can't take a joke fuck. Publish.
Posted by: Rocks at June 08, 2011 07:47 PM (th0op)
FIFY
Posted by: giftogab at June 08, 2011 03:50 PM (SPVfc)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2011 07:34 PM (nj1bB)
Man's job. A funny man's job. Especially with Weenie, for crying out loud.
Tell you what, Ace. Don't worry about restraint, and if you get carried away, the sane, sober, reserved, thoughtful, judicious Moron Horde will reel you back in.
Posted by: FUBAR at June 08, 2011 03:51 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: Truman North at June 08, 2011 07:47 PM (G5JPI)
well, since this is now public, we've had to go fall back to ze origional plan with obama and his passport and school records to get zecrets about the nuclear wessels...
Posted by: Igor Spankavich, Consultant, Col KGB (ret) at June 08, 2011 03:52 PM (NtXW4)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 08, 2011 03:52 PM (2wfuC)
Too much work otherwise.
Posted by: George Orwell at June 08, 2011 07:36 PM (AZGON)
I look at the scroll bar. If it's smaller than 1/2 an inch... all the way to the bottom.
Posted by: tangonine at June 08, 2011 07:38 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 08, 2011 03:52 PM (yrGif)
Posted by: Extremely Pusillanimous Suck-Up at June 08, 2011 03:52 PM (7tM55)
You think the Islamofascists would need to bribe Weiner?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 08, 2011 03:52 PM (0vDuM)
Posted by: Anthony Weiner at June 08, 2011 03:52 PM (AZGON)
Well said, sifty.
It's funny about Weiner's wife being pregnant. This morning as I was driving and my mind was wandering, I found myself thinking "what if she's pregnant?" Then I come home after all that painting and find out she is.
Posted by: Y-not at June 08, 2011 07:43 PM (TFxd0)
Breaking News: Y-Not can think other women into pregnancy. Beware Moronettes.
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2011 03:52 PM (oVQFe)
I'll lay two to one odds that the story will do a heart string tug about "She is having difficulties because of this situation" to generate sympathy.
Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at June 08, 2011 03:53 PM (H+LJc)
2. Sheila Jackson Lee
3. Anthony Weiner
4. Maxipad Waters
5. Lisa Murkowski
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at June 08, 2011 07:49 PM (cwFVA)
Pelosi. The scrunt from Houston. Chuckles Rangel. So many.
Posted by: FUBAR at June 08, 2011 03:53 PM (1fanL)
Ace was concerned about Weiner filing a tort, but with the amount of support on this site, it's my belief that the herd would rally around the flag and support Ace until he was convicted and sentenced.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at June 08, 2011 03:53 PM (cwFVA)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 08, 2011 03:53 PM (NITzp)
Infidelity is a lie. Cheating on one's spouse is a betrayal, it's a breach of trust of the highest order. I have no tolerance for this "sex" vs "lie" crap. No one gives a shit what you do to or for your spouse. The infidelity makes it a scandal and makes the betrayer a liar. The infidelity is a result of bad character; the betrayal of your most intimate relationship shows that you cannot be trusted.
Many pieces of this make it worse than just the infidelity and the lie. Pregnant wife, willingness to blame others, willingness to destroy careers to protect self, arrogance, revolting images texts and facebooking, potential for blackmail, and the worst? He's an asshole.
Weiner is mostly guilty of being a selfish asshole.
Posted by: dagny at June 08, 2011 03:54 PM (yny8c)
1. Raul "Tarantula Head" Grijalva
2. Sheila Jackson Lee
3. Anthony Weiner
4. Maxipad Waters
5. Lisa Murkowski
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at June 08, 2011 07:49 PM (cwFVA)
Numerous responses to these and not once has anyone mentioned the asshole Harry Reid.
Posted by: Soona at June 08, 2011 03:54 PM (sqJL0)
Posted by: Annaleesea at June 08, 2011 03:54 PM (ktZBX)
I didn't pay much attention to the story. When it hit the media I watched but I knew he wouldn't resign, I knew it and that's when it hit me, he doesn't know he's ill. Everyone else can see it but him. Which would explain why a pregnant wife who loves him would say "I love you, don't worry we'll get through this" cause maybe she saw it way before we saw it and could do nothing. I mean nanny p really could do nothing.
So maybe were it not for the blogsphere this entire episode could have ended another way, maybe a not so good way.
Posted by: curious at June 08, 2011 03:55 PM (k1rwm)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 08, 2011 03:55 PM (XmqZJ)
Posted by: Lawrence of the Labia at June 08, 2011 07:49 PM (ZQ+/s)
Good deal, I have friends who went to school in Oxford.
The program needed a good house cleaning and now we got it.
Posted by: ErikW at June 08, 2011 03:55 PM (UpKbZ)
Yeah, at some points, I did wonder, "Am I doing a man's job here? Or am I just being a nasty internet bastard?"
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2011 07:34 PM (nj1bB)
Well you're certainly not doing a job of a comedian. No comments about wanting to be the one sitting on the grassy knoll anywhere in your posts.
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2011 03:55 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at June 08, 2011 07:53 PM (cwFVA)
Ace who?
Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at June 08, 2011 03:55 PM (H+LJc)
"I can totally understand a moment of panic when it looked like Weiner might lawyer up and start suing people."
Never, ever let this tactic bother you. They never sue. They always hire counsel to "explore their alternatives" and deliberately phrase it this way to get you to self censor. Counsel will write you. Threaten to sue you. Harass you. They never, ever follow through.
Congressman are public figures. We can say any opinion we want about them based on the flimsiest of evidence and even make untrue statements about them so long as there is no actual malice aforethought. And THEY know it.
Bottom line: This cat wouldn't get the FBI involved. No way he was going to launch any sort of court action that would result in discovery occurring or a subpoena getting all up into his shit.
They always will threaten to sue. They never, ever will. Ever.
Posted by: someguy at June 08, 2011 03:55 PM (iIQ0a)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 08, 2011 07:53 PM (NITzp)
or is it.......A-fucking-Team.....I PITTY DA FOOO!
Posted by: Mr. T grabs a weenie at June 08, 2011 03:55 PM (SPVfc)
Ace, just remember any time you have doubts about crushing another of those pukes...
You are working to save the country, and there's nothing more noble. You may not really believe that, but it's true. One at a time. One at a time.
Posted by: Steph at June 08, 2011 03:55 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2011 03:56 PM (7wmOW)
I look at the scroll bar. If it's smaller than 1/2 an inch... all the way to the bottom.
Size Queen.
As soon as the comments open, I hit 'End'.
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2011 03:56 PM (1sb9C)
Thanks. I'd forgotten that article. Two years old and nothing much has changed.
Posted by: ranger117 at June 08, 2011 03:56 PM (PwEbV)
Ace was concerned about Weiner filing a tort, but with the amount of support on this site, it's my belief that the herd would rally around the flag and support Ace until he was convicted and sentenced.
Tort (defamation) is a civil offense - not criminal. So even tho Ace wouldn't have been tossed in jail, we still would be there to drink his beer and clean out his fridge before Weiner's lawyers showed up and took the rest of his shit to pay off the judgment.
Posted by: IE Con at June 08, 2011 03:56 PM (/COcn)
He then Lied directly to US, to try to cover it up...
The lie to the wife? is between them... the Lie to US, is between HIM and US..."
We're mundanes. He didn't lie to us - we're utterly irrelevant to him. He, like most members of the nobility, doesn't care that we exist.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at June 08, 2011 03:56 PM (xy9wk)
Numerous responses to these and not once has anyone mentioned the asshole Harry Reid.
Posted by: Soona at June 08, 2011 07:54 PM (sqJL0)
Oh, I read it as House. Babs Boxer. Rockefeller. McCaskill. Douchebag from Michigan on Judiciary.
Posted by: FUBAR at June 08, 2011 03:56 PM (1fanL)
Yeah, at some points, I did wonder, "Am I doing a man's job here? Or am I just being a nasty internet bastard?"
Fuck 'em. Fuck all of 'em. We conservatives are in a conflict for our way of life, and we're losing. No one is off limits to those people, and they don't have a restraint clause in their rules of engagement.
By the way, who ruins a marriage: The cheating husband, or the private investigator who finds him out? Why not blame the wife for hiring the detective?
You've been a nasty internet bastard, Ace, and thanks for that. So you're not Good Kirk after the transporter malfunction. That shouldn't keep you up at night.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 08, 2011 03:56 PM (Rq1/g)
This week just keeps getting better and better
Posted by: Scorned Fury at June 08, 2011 03:57 PM (AZFgs)
Posted by: President Sissypants at June 08, 2011 03:57 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2011 07:56 PM (7wmOW)
Yeah.... how lowwww can you gooooo
Posted by: Barney Franks X Gay Pimp Roomate at June 08, 2011 03:57 PM (NtXW4)
btw, notice how the word 'scandal' has not been used once in this story?
This is a political sex scandal.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 08, 2011 03:57 PM (utELx)
Sit on one these days and Fire Ants will be lighting up your ass tout de suite
Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at June 08, 2011 03:57 PM (H+LJc)
Jim McGovern. He's low-profile, but just as bad or worse than any of them. And his constituency is so far afield, he is openly hostile to them. Er, to us.
Posted by: Truman North at June 08, 2011 03:58 PM (G5JPI)
#344
That reminds me.
Ace, if you ever get a chance to take out Al Franken, jump on him like Roy Clark on a banjo.
Posted by: Dave at June 08, 2011 03:58 PM (HPcQF)
Congress should not be a bunch of celeb-u-tards! Get mad people.
Posted by: MrTea at June 08, 2011 03:59 PM (6yDQy)
Oh, you don't think Weiner or Pelosi or Boehlert or Obama or Ezra Klein or any our current leftists would do such a thing? Ha! Give them the power for a day and see. The difference between today's Democrats and the Soviet Communists is the United States Armed Forces and the Second Amendment, period.
Posted by: Adjoran at June 08, 2011 03:59 PM (VfmLu)
Posted by: Chris Titus at June 08, 2011 03:59 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 08, 2011 04:00 PM (XmqZJ)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at June 08, 2011 04:00 PM (npr0X)
" ... he doesn't know he's ill. Everyone else can see it but him."
This.
This is why we have involuntary commitment laws. This man has a mental illness (exhibitionism, combined with severe narciccism) and he needs to be committed to a psychiatric hospital for evaluation and treatment. Involuntarily if necessary.
This is why we passed ObamaCare, folks.
So people like this can get the mental medical help they need.
Somebody fucking call Bellvue.
Posted by: someguy at June 08, 2011 04:00 PM (iIQ0a)
I look at the scroll bar. If it's smaller than 1/2 an inch... all the way to the bottom.
Size Queen.
As soon as the comments open, I hit 'End'.
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2011 07:56 PM (1sb9C)----------- ------------ ----------- ---------- ---------- -----------
Does that count as "sexting?"
Posted by: Mr. Naive at June 08, 2011 04:00 PM (7tM55)
Posted by: booger at June 08, 2011 04:01 PM (9RFH1)
Numerous responses to these and not once has anyone mentioned the asshole Harry Reid.
Posted by: Soona at June 08, 2011 07:54 PM (sqJL0)
That's because he's soft spoken and unassuming.
I'm wondering if that means he has throat cancer and is warming up for a cancer kazoo.
Sheila has my vote, tho. When she's voted out, she'll probably join McKinney somewhere in the ME trashing America.
Posted by: ErikW at June 08, 2011 04:01 PM (UpKbZ)
Posted by: curious at June 08, 2011 07:55 PM (k1rwm)
He's not ill. He's an arrogant, lying, narcissistic prick.
Hell, I was married to one. There's not a damn thing wrong with him other than he thinks he's entitled & should get by with shit that other people can't.
Because, you know, there's just something better about him than anyone else. Fuck that.
Posted by: Steph at June 08, 2011 04:02 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: steevy at June 08, 2011 04:02 PM (O0lWK)
Dogs enjoy the simple things in life, a good burp, being able to lick their own junk, sniffing a crotch.
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 08, 2011 08:00 PM (XmqZJ)
Two out of Three ain't too bad either.
Posted by: Men Everywhere at June 08, 2011 04:02 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: dagny at June 08, 2011 04:02 PM (yny8c)
Posted by: Marybel at June 08, 2011 04:03 PM (Hic+o)
Then we can all lie about it, and that's OK, 'cause it involved sex.
Good plan.
Posted by: West at June 08, 2011 04:03 PM (fCpG+)
Posted by: steevy at June 08, 2011 04:03 PM (O0lWK)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 08, 2011 08:00 PM (XmqZJ)
Sex in the front yard in broad daylight ain't too bad either
Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at June 08, 2011 04:04 PM (H+LJc)
So people like this can get the mental medical help they need.
Somebody fucking call Bellvue.
Posted by: someguy at June 08, 2011 08:00 PM (iIQ0a)
Sorry... but Evil is not a mental illness... it is not treatable... zome zings even I cannot fix...
Posted by: Siggy Freud at June 08, 2011 04:05 PM (NtXW4)
Posted by: Chris Titus at June 08, 2011 07:59 PM (AZGON)
Is he a zombie, 'cause um, he's daid.
Posted by: Steph at June 08, 2011 04:05 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: curious at June 08, 2011 07:55 PM (k1rwm)
HE IS SICK is a lib talking point. A way to blame anyone and not take responsibility. Me thinks you must suffer from lib wet brain too because all this crap rolls into your posts all too often.
Posted by: giftogab at June 08, 2011 04:06 PM (SPVfc)
Posted by: Marybel at June 08, 2011 08:03 PM (Hic+o)
And you're the worst person ever if you would want to see actual medical proof of such if that were to happen. Oh and Sarah Palin must release her medical records immediately!!!!!
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2011 04:06 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 08, 2011 04:06 PM (lGFXF)
The right is like a AAA team playing the Yankees. With the umps all wearing Yankee hats.
Foley represented his party as much or more so as the party's leaders. Notice how the focus is 100% on Weiner. Hell, they're not even connecting three huge dots except in an offhand way: Clinton/Lewinsky, Edwards/Hunter and Weiner/the intertubes. Republicans have their issues too but not with the equivalent of Bush, Dole, McCain and Paul Ryan or Peter King level politicians the Dems have (Gingrich being his own point). And it's not about assertions, though that's how the leftie media usually plays it. When connecting dots the easiest way is to just ask questions. Does Foley epitimize the Republicans in Washington? Is the tea party aligned over racism? It's these type of questions that we won't be hearing.
Posted by: East Bay Jay at June 08, 2011 04:06 PM (svwGR)
Posted by: Nyarlathotep at June 08, 2011 04:06 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: sherlock at June 08, 2011 04:07 PM (5wKIC)
How do you think Oprah made her billion dollars?
Posted by: sifty at June 08, 2011 04:07 PM (2dbd9)
Hey, Kirsten, if he's going to fuck around on his wife, he's going to fuck around on you. And his constituents. And other politicians.
Apparently, the above statements fall under Ezra Klein's category of "things too complicated to worry about."
It's also an old idea, so it has that against it.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 08, 2011 04:07 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Chris Titus at June 08, 2011 04:07 PM (AZGON)
__________
Compared to that, my wife's psychic powers (the ability to always call the office while I'm in the restroom; the ability to spend all the money in my pocket down to the penny without knowing how much I had in the first place) are small potatoes.
Posted by: Anachronda at June 08, 2011 04:08 PM (xGZ+b)
Posted by: Ratskeller at June 08, 2011 04:08 PM (uEX7V)
Weiner refuses to resign and sets off on a vacation....
floating....
on a river in Egypt
where, apparently he has been for quite some time
Posted by: Scorned Fury at June 08, 2011 04:08 PM (AZFgs)
Why concede this "Everyone lies about sex" excuse? Is the excuser seriously suggesting that the lies are restricted to this one area, and so we can safely hive it off - both the behaviour and the lies - and ignore it? What, nobody lies about skimming funds? Taking bribes? Dumping toxic waste? Hiring illegal aliens? Where you have cheating, stealing, shafting others - sin, in other words - you have lies. Sexual sleaze isn't some sort of special evildoing that deserves kid-glove treatment - when people fall for that line they're not thinking, they're responding to the "It can't be wrong when it feeeeeeels so right!" claptrap designed to overwhelm their defences.
If anything, we should be LESS surprised and outraged at the lies. We should think, "Well, he cheats on his wife and has adolescent molestation fantasies - OF COURSE he lies, that's the sort of scum he is."
Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at June 08, 2011 04:08 PM (jgkJo)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 08, 2011 08:06 PM (lGFXF)
Um, Huma is as much of a piece of shit as her husband.
Posted by: ErikW at June 08, 2011 04:08 PM (UpKbZ)
Posted by: Tantor at June 08, 2011 04:09 PM (RYbm2)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 08, 2011 04:09 PM (AZGON)
Would it be out of line to suggest that Weiner is a narcissistic sexual predator with performance fantasies?
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at June 08, 2011 04:09 PM (cwFVA)
yeah, that's right, too
Weiner said to one of the girls that the head of weiner "looks like it's ready to do some damage."
Why does Anthony Weiner want to inflict damage to a woman's vagina?
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 08, 2011 04:10 PM (EoeFV)
Posted by: Huma Abedin at June 08, 2011 04:10 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Marybel at June 08, 2011 08:03 PM (Hic+o)
Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at June 08, 2011 04:10 PM (H+LJc)
_________
Ha! You can't trick me! I've seen that episode of Nero Wolfe where "drafting a tort" was a trick question to out someone who claimed to be a lawyer!
Posted by: Anachronda at June 08, 2011 04:10 PM (xGZ+b)
Because she's a stupid annoying liberal hack bitch who'd roast marshmallows on our funeral pyre.
Posted by: sifty at June 08, 2011 04:11 PM (2dbd9)
Posted by: Pmzey at June 08, 2011 04:11 PM (pmzey)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 08, 2011 08:00 PM (XmqZJ)
Two out of Three ain't too bad either.
Posted by: Men Everywhere at June 08, 2011 08:02 PM (oVQFe)
Huh? Whaddaya mean, two out of three?
Posted by: Men who post pic of their long tongues on the internet at June 08, 2011 04:11 PM (sqJL0)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 08, 2011 04:11 PM (XmqZJ)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2011 04:12 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: Lord Voldemort at June 08, 2011 04:12 PM (cSkZ5)
Compared to that, my wife's psychic powers (the ability to always call the office while I'm in the restroom; the ability to spend all the money in my pocket down to the penny without knowing how much I had in the first place) are small potatoes.
Weird, if I climb a ladder, stand on a chair in the basement to reach something, crawl into the deep recesses of a closet, or am perched precariously painting toenails or cleaning a shower head, my husband will call EVERY SINGLE TIME. Then someone will come into his office, I'll go back to what I was doing, and he'll call me back on the house phone which I've now lost in the chaos.
His new schtick is to come over and lift my skirt when I start bitching. Then giggle.
Posted by: dagny at June 08, 2011 04:13 PM (yny8c)
Yes. That was pure evil. I am not very interesting in this story, to be honest, but this aspect disturbs me. The left realizes now that Weiner and his shills were willing to do real harm to innocent people to protect a sleaze from a sex scandal. And some of them are 100% OK with that.
We should not give power to people who are willing to do this to innocent people. God knows what else Weiner would have done. Imagine if China had found this picture instead of PatriotUSA. Weiner has a security clearance. What would he have been willing to do to protect the only important person in Weiner's universe?
And not to forget Wold Blitzer and Rachel Maddow obviously going out of their way to help Weiner cover this up with questions like "let me ask you if you want to answer this question". Shameful, not that I expect any different.
Posted by: Dustin at June 08, 2011 04:13 PM (Q3nWV)
________
Given how clean-shaven his chest is, I'd be surprised if there was any grass left on Weiner's knolls.
Posted by: Anachronda, veering back towards relevance at June 08, 2011 04:13 PM (xGZ+b)
Posted by: Peter Jackson at June 08, 2011 04:14 PM (AZGON)
Great to "win" and be "right" and all that but today's revelation of a pregnancy really just makes this all seem less like partisan sport and more like simple cruelty.
Don't fret. They have no qualms about killing a burden like a baby. Notice they distinctly note she is early in her pregnancy. I am sure that pregnancy means nothing to him, or her for that matter. That is not a problem that can't be 'fixed' his political career is! Unfortunately for that innocent victim, that fix is a real possibility.
I feel like I am goin to throw up now.
Posted by: i <3 ace at June 08, 2011 04:14 PM (YA6+6)
Posted by: Marybel at June 08, 2011 04:15 PM (Hic+o)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 08, 2011 08:06 PM (lGFXF)
I don't even feel bad for her. Know why? Because he said that she knew he did these things before they got married. He supposedly told her. That should have skeeved her out. Knowing that he put out pics of his junk to strange women on teh interwebs. It's not like he did this shit as a teenager. He said he had been doing it for, at least, 3 years (yeah, right), and she knew it. She still married him. That's stoopid.
Posted by: Steph at June 08, 2011 04:15 PM (AkdC5)
But the baby is innocent... and the way this thing is going... it will grow up to be a Conservative Republican !
Posted by: Scorned Fury at June 08, 2011 04:16 PM (AZFgs)
Joan Kennedy had a miscarriage after Teddy let Mary Jo Kopechne drown. Didn't seem to bother the dems all that much.
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 08, 2011 08:11 PM (XmqZJ)
I'd forgotten about that. Perhaps the dead "fetus" taunts him in hell.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 08, 2011 04:16 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: dagny at June 08, 2011 04:16 PM (yny8c)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2011 04:17 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: dagny at June 08, 2011 04:18 PM (yny8c)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 08, 2011 04:19 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Marybel at June 08, 2011 04:20 PM (Hic+o)
I mean the lying and sex are one thing, but never have we had explicit pictures. At least where the official survived to stay in office.
It would be like Paris Hilton or Madonna running for Congress.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 08, 2011 04:20 PM (cSkZ5)
I'm sure Andi Sullivan will demand she release her ob/gyn records.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 08, 2011 04:20 PM (0vDuM)
Posted by: Ronster at June 08, 2011 04:21 PM (ZgcMU)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at June 08, 2011 04:21 PM (VidfH)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2011 04:21 PM (7wmOW)
I seriously doubt you can be "upset" into a miscarriage.
Posted by: dagny at June 08, 2011 08:18 PM (yny8c)
I got it. She was "upset" into a pregnancy.
Posted by: Soona at June 08, 2011 04:22 PM (sqJL0)
You have a way of laying your finger right on the scab of truth. People like what they like. I admit it, and am often accused of a lack of principles by the doctrinaire libertarian crowd because of it. I want my preferences to be actualized and will overlook, to an extent, the sins of those who support my worldview.
Also, why do you save the best threads until after I leave work and aren't monitoring the RSS feed?
Posted by: toby928™ at June 08, 2011 04:23 PM (GTbGH)
I kind of wish that if the Flaming Wiener of Retribution had descended unto him, it would have been for something that people were already aware of and had a grievance about. Maybe a political defeat or a humiliating backfire of his snide attitude-- something like that. This picture business isn't really satisfying in a way; but in Wiener's case it may be all of a piece with his other annoying qualities, in which case meh.
Posted by: Golem14 at June 08, 2011 04:23 PM (2X8VA)
Posted by: Ronster at June 08, 2011 04:23 PM (ZgcMU)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 08, 2011 04:24 PM (AZGON)
The head of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, Sen. Patty Murray, told reporters during the day that Weiner's troubles 'of course' complicate the party's efforts ahead of in the 2012 elections.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. said, 'I just view it with great surprise and dismay. That's all I can say.'
...Nancy Pelosi and the party's chairwoman, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida, declined to respond directly on Tuesday when the Republican chairman, Reince Priebus, urged them to say whether they believe Weiner should step down."Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 08, 2011 04:24 PM (2wfuC)
Posted by: nickless at June 08, 2011 04:24 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: steevy at June 08, 2011 04:25 PM (O0lWK)
The only person that truly would be a victim in this would be the poor child that has to claim teh weiner as his father. Teh interwebs are forever, and sooner or later he/she is going know that his/her father left Congress because of dicpics on teh web.
Good job weiner. You not only give him/her a fucked up name it's immortalized forever next to a pic of your dick.
Posted by: Steph at June 08, 2011 04:25 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 08, 2011 04:26 PM (5I0Yr)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 08, 2011 04:26 PM (AZGON)
Yes. His statement was an admission that he sent explicit photos.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 08, 2011 04:26 PM (2wfuC)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at June 08, 2011 04:27 PM (VidfH)
When you called him a bantam, I laughed out loud, because it was perfect.
Posted by: toby928™ at June 08, 2011 04:27 PM (GTbGH)
@377: "Sorry... but Evil is not a mental illness... it is not treatable... zome zings even I cannot fix..."
Really? I fixed Roy DeMeo and his crew...
Posted by: A .38 slug in the back of the head at June 08, 2011 04:27 PM (xy9wk)
If the situation were reversed, and Rosie O'Donnell had emailed a pic of her dick, would Anthony Weiner defend her right to display her manhood, or would he call for her resignation from the Oprah Network?
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at June 08, 2011 04:27 PM (cwFVA)
Posted by: steevy at June 08, 2011 04:29 PM (O0lWK)
The only person that truly would be a victim in this would be the poor child that has to claim teh weiner as his father.
With Weiner's face there will really be no doubt. Poor thing is going to have this legacy and weiner's profile. Ouch. I feel sorry for it already.
Posted by: dagny at June 08, 2011 04:29 PM (yny8c)
Posted by: TexasJew at June 08, 2011 04:30 PM (Ha1Xm)
Time for everyone to find every photo of Obama with Weiner that exists.
Post them everywhere.
Especially if they are shaking hands.
Got antibacterial soap?
Posted by: sifty at June 08, 2011 04:30 PM (2dbd9)
Fast approaching the six. What do you think the real number is? Red Eye was alluding Pink (the pop singer) was one that turned him down.
Posted by: Pmzey at June 08, 2011 04:30 PM (pmzey)
Yeah, I think we have hit the moment in the last couple of days where I really think we're going to clean his clock next year. Sputtering is not a strategy.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 08, 2011 04:31 PM (7utQ2)
Weiner is from a safe Democratic district and he probably can win re-election if he does not quit. People forget scandal and forgive behavior that is far worse than what Congressman Weiner did. Remember a certain senator whose negligence led to the death of a young woman? His constituents quickly forgave him and repeatedly elected him to office with huge majorities.
Posted by: nohype at June 08, 2011 04:32 PM (9yfLe)
Good job weiner. You not only give him/her a fucked up name it's immortalized forever next to a pic of your dick.
Posted by: Steph at June 08, 2011 08:25 PM (AkdC5)
He doesn't give a shit. Right now, at this very moment, he's triangulating his next move, that's why we haven't heard from him.
Weiner has no shame. He's representative of all liberals, this time he got caught red-handed.
Posted by: ErikW at June 08, 2011 04:33 PM (UpKbZ)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 08, 2011 04:33 PM (lGFXF)
Posted by: sifty at June 08, 2011 04:33 PM (2dbd9)
Haven't read all the comments, but I'm calling BS on this rumor. It's PR to make you feel cruel. Prediction: in a few weeks they will say that she lost the baby due to the stress.
Posted by: Lipstick at June 08, 2011 04:34 PM (lLe0s)
Posted by: TotalBS at June 08, 2011 04:35 PM (CyPWX)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 08, 2011 04:36 PM (AZGON)
This article is so long and waxing it makes the Unabomber Treatise look like the product of a third grade writing assignment.
Posted by: Marcus at June 08, 2011 04:36 PM (TIj5q)
Hmmm.
Ace has pangs of conscience and EOJ shows signs of moisturizer/pedicure/manicure.
I THINK WE NEED A MANDATORY MAN CARD CHECK AROUND HERE.
Yes, I am drinking a beer and watching baseball.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 08, 2011 04:36 PM (7utQ2)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at June 08, 2011 04:36 PM (VidfH)
Um, Huma is as much of a piece of shit as her husband.
Huma would not be the first woman caught in an untenable situation, unable to admit she made a mistake with Weiner, or fearful because of his uncontrollable outbursts that made her ashamed of her poor judgement, and unwillingness to confront the monster she married.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at June 08, 2011 04:37 PM (cwFVA)
Post them everywhere.
Especially if they are shaking hands.
Got antibacterial soap?
Got the perfect stuff right here.
Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at June 08, 2011 04:38 PM (J4Pnx)
Posted by: The Jackhole at June 08, 2011 04:38 PM (OslS1)
*don't forget he said "about six"... there are more than six
and
don't forget Betty & Veronica parent statement... which sounds oh so
close to the advice Weiner gave to Ginger Lee on how to lie
Posted by: Scorned Fury at June 08, 2011 04:39 PM (AZFgs)
I'm putting my $5 on "She gives birth...40 weeks from today."
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 08, 2011 04:39 PM (0vDuM)
Posted by: Anthony Weiner at June 08, 2011 04:39 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at June 08, 2011 04:39 PM (VidfH)
I'm only listening to baseball. Is my card still good?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 08, 2011 04:40 PM (0vDuM)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 08, 2011 04:42 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Marybel at June 08, 2011 04:43 PM (Hic+o)
Posted by: sheep shaggin sifty at June 08, 2011 04:44 PM (2dbd9)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 08, 2011 04:44 PM (lGFXF)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at June 08, 2011 08:39 PM (VidfH)
And not just any dick. Text them flaccid, cancerous, disease ridden dicks.
Posted by: Soona at June 08, 2011 04:45 PM (sqJL0)
Posted by: Pmzey at June 08, 2011 04:45 PM (pmzey)
Would you vote for him against a conservative republican in an election?
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at June 08, 2011 04:47 PM (6IReR)
Don't worry, I'm not going soft.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 08, 2011 08:33 PM (lGFXF)
Okay but in her case, it was not poor judgment, it was political, calculated and downright sick. Whatever mistake you've made I'm sure was exactly that, a mistake.
I'm known for those myself.
These people deserve NO sympathy or quarter.
Posted by: ErikW at June 08, 2011 04:47 PM (UpKbZ)
Would you vote for him against a conservative republican in an election?
They vote straight D ticket, they don't know or care who the candidate is.
Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at June 08, 2011 04:48 PM (J4Pnx)
Posted by: sifty at June 08, 2011 04:48 PM (2dbd9)
Would you vote for him against a conservative republican in an election?
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at June 08, 2011 08:47 PM (6IReR)
Liberals voted Ted Kennedy into the Senate for 40-years after he killed Mary Jo Kopechne. Yes, they would vote for Weiner because he's not a conservative.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at June 08, 2011 04:49 PM (cwFVA)
Then if that's true, and I grant you it is, they don't have a leg to stand on about being fucked over by weiner, and they need to shut the fuck up.
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at June 08, 2011 04:50 PM (6IReR)
Posted by: J. Random Dude at June 08, 2011 04:51 PM (72afg)
Posted by: steevy at June 08, 2011 04:53 PM (O0lWK)
Posted by: dagny at June 08, 2011 04:53 PM (yny8c)
Haven't you ever dated someone who embarrassed you so badly that you made excuses for them?
No. He wasn't THAT bad.
Posted by: Clueless at June 08, 2011 04:54 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Soona at June 08, 2011 04:55 PM (sqJL0)
Any law enforcement types like to tell me how it just has to be a kick in the door raid with full military style arms and tactics?
What effing country do i live in!?!
Posted by: kdny at June 08, 2011 04:56 PM (ZYKiK)
Posted by: i <3 ace at June 08, 2011 04:56 PM (YA6+6)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at June 08, 2011 04:56 PM (VidfH)
Posted by: J. Random Dude at June 08, 2011 08:51 PM "
This cannot be said enough
Posted by: Nora at June 08, 2011 05:00 PM (VxqUc)
Again, I just wanted to post this for her fanboys here.
Posted by: Pmzey at June 08, 2011 05:00 PM (pmzey)
Which reminds me, I'm still looking for vintage Army training films for my nephews.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 08, 2011 05:01 PM (0vDuM)
Any law enforcement types like to tell me how it just has to be a kick in the door raid with full military style arms and tactics?
Careful buddy - we are Department of Education SWAT team - Team America has nothing on us!! Might have to check in and see if you have any student loans. Did you pass in that last book report in 11th grade??
It's Obamerica.
Posted by: Department of Education SWAT team at June 08, 2011 05:02 PM (sJIt+)
What's this Stanley Cup thing Drew has going on upstairs in the kid's room?
Posted by: Soona at June 08, 2011 08:55 PM (sqJL0)
Who fucking cares? Free agency ruined the game and the Blue Jackets will never make it past the first round anyway.
Posted by: ErikW at June 08, 2011 05:06 PM (UpKbZ)
Aw, hockey killed the Wienergate star....thread.
Posted by: Marybel at June 08, 2011 05:07 PM (Hic+o)
I am of the general view that politicians are not the most honest group of people, but, even using that very low standard, what I saw in those interviews was deeply disturbing.
The New York Times reported this morning that he told donors a week ago that the scandal was the result of a “vast right-wing conspiracy” and that “everything [would] be fine.”
She uses the term "vast right-wing conspiracy" without any memory of where that phrase comes from.
The stupid, it burns.
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 08, 2011 05:09 PM (XdlcF)
The cruelty is Weiner, who knew Huma was pregnant.
Buck up, boyo! You did a good thing. Who knows what horrible things Weiner would have done if he hadn't been caught?
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 08, 2011 05:15 PM (Fo83G)
Has anyone said it yet?
This child would surely have a hyphenated name and thus will be called Abedin-Weiner.
Roll that one around on your tongue and enjoy the freakish word play possible.
Posted by: Who Knows at June 08, 2011 05:18 PM (1cx/R)
"The
question isn't so much immorality, as you'd like to think the baaaad ol' social cons are obsessed with. It's the ridiculous coverup lie. It's the manipulation of a fawning, and frankly, credulous mainstream press corps, that likes to coddle their Boy Wonder flavor of the day, who are willing to be almost COMPLICIT in the lie, that is the issue.
To expect that his constituents that elected him, and the American people in general, are so stupid and gullible as to believe his ridiculous and self-serving posing as a 'victim' in the media; when anyone with half a brain and a modicum of knowledge of how the Internet works are looking at this preening pea-hen who thinks they're as dumb as dirt and were born yesterday... well, imagine the schadenfreude..."
Posted by: Squatch at June 08, 2011 05:35 PM (D9pKF)
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Posted by: Krazy Kat at June 08, 2011 06:15 PM (FFWZn)
My Dad said to me when I was young as we were observing
Some Less fortunate
"They Goes I, except for the Grace Of God"
Human
Posted by: visla at June 08, 2011 06:18 PM (SawUo)
Ace, what we've witnessed over the last week was quietly spectacular, and if you or Breitbart had slacked off on the pressure the left would have won the propaganda battle and this arrogant, hyper-partisan dick would have skated.
Everyone knows that the guy only 'fessed up when he saw that his lies weren't convincing enough.
One small after-action debriefing item: I think it's probably a mistake to make the next one of these about the sex angle. Makes us look like we're phobic or prissy or squeamish about sex. Yes, I know, standards are important, but far better to say *nothing* about the sex angle, and instead focus on the lies and blackmail potential.
The *instant* our side mentions sex you can feel the small shockwave as the minds of ten million independents and moderate Democrats snap shut. We don't have to mention sex because the guy's already lying about *something*, so he clearly knows he's got some significant liability hanging out.
You already noticed that Kristen said (before reversing after *she* realized she'd been lied to), 'For those who allege "it's not about the sex, it's about the lying," it really is about the sex.' The Left wants to make the problem all about sex, because it helps them incredibly in the eyes of half the electorate, and hurts us by a similar amount. After all, the claim that "everybody lies about sex" does resonate with *lots* of people, so if the left can get people to see the problem as being about sex, a whole bunch of dominoes fall in a way that doesn't help conservatives.
But in any case, well done sir. I think your conflicting feelings about your role are neither abnormal nor bad, but I'm glad to see lots of folks were available to buck you up in your post-action doubt.
Posted by: sf at June 08, 2011 06:23 PM (eSMQV)
After Rep. Christopher Lee (R-NY-26) quit for a bare-chested mistake, you'd think that any politician with a shred of sense would avoid a similar fate, but Rep. A. Weiner "embraced the horror"
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at June 08, 2011 07:16 PM (e8kgV)
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Posted by: mistress overdone at June 08, 2011 10:04 PM (2/oBD)
This is apparently a PROBLEM for the wackadoos whining about "being mean".
Look, first of all, in case you ivory tower elite jerks haven't noticed, THE ENTIRE AMERICAN POPULACE WANTS ALL THOSE SACKS OF CRAP GONE FROM OFFICE NOW !
Please add that general bent as a reminder when you're playing your "to be nice or not to be nice" games in your fairy fried gourd.
This isn't about your angel tokus, or the criminal cheat staring deeply into your eyes in prison - THIS IS ABOUT THE GENERAL PUBLIC WHO HAS TO LISTEN TO YOU WEASEL AFTER SOME INSANE GROUP OF FOOLS RELEASES YOU UPON US!
So you're a pervert - THAT'S NO EXCUSE TO BE NICE TO WEINER!
IT'S NOT ABOUT YOUR PERSONAL FEELINGS AND HOW YOU CAN SAY YOUR GROUP IS KIND AND GOING TO HEAVEN, OR NOT !
It's about WE THE PEOPLE !
Hence, get the #$@$% %^&*&^*&(*& E%^%$%$$@#!$%$%^ #$%% $%^&^ - the HECK OUT OF OFFICE ASAP !
AS HE BURNS ON FIRE ON AIR FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE, HOPEFULLY COLLAPSING INTO A PILE OF JELLY IN FRONT OF EVERYONE AND NEEDING SMELLING SALTS TO ARISE AND BE CARRIED OFF LIKE A BRIDE....
In other words, THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY YOU CAN BE MEAN ENOUGH, NASTY ENOUGH, NOR HARSH ENOUGH - AND CONSIDERING THE EXACT OPPOSITE AND DOING IT IS WHY THIS NATION IS BURNING INTO A PILE OF WET MELTING CRAP THIS VERY SECOND !
You really, really should know better.
NOW REMEMBER THE MSM IS A WEINER - IT'S A NASTY, NASTY, DIRTY LOW DOWN, SLIMY, PEDO WEINER, AND IT NEEDS YOUR FULL ATTENTION NOW!!!!
Posted by: SiliconDoc at June 08, 2011 11:02 PM (NyHfP)
He's lied to his wife and now to the American people, and that just doesn't fly.
Clinton lied under oath, and if the leftard nihilst scumbags have actually succeeded in corrupting our culture to the point that doing so is now "ok," then we have truly passed the point of no return and will collapse under the weight of our own wickedness.
Doing what is right matters. It matters perhaps more than anything.
Weiner is a skeezy sexual pervert, but the people who have tried to cover for him are the real deviants because they attempt to pervert respect for the truth.
Posted by: Lee Reynolds at June 08, 2011 11:47 PM (5KnyG)
The main point here is really very simple--something our grandparents would not have wasted 30 seconds agonizing over -- it's about dignity, self-control and respecting the people who put you in office.(Not to mention your own spouse.)
If you're a public figure -- and yes, holding a federal elective office certainly qualifies -- then everything you do is public! You forfeit your right to "privacy" until such time as you relinquish the office. And if you choose to act like a sleaze-ball jerk-off horn-dog, then you will be publicly humiliated and condemned because you asked for it!!!
As a wise man once said, "You can't fix 'stupid'."
Any questions???
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