August 04, 2011

Is Obama Doomed?
And: Will He Bother Even Running?

— Ace

I've been peddling this crazy semi-prediction for a year and a half. I've mentioned it on the blog.

If Obama looks doomed a year out from the election, will he simply decline to run?

Roger Simon asks if he should.

Obama seems to be acknowledging his failure thusfar when he adds a a special new caveat to his Yes We Can slogan:

"It's been a long, tough journey. But we have made some incredible strides together. Yes, we have. But the thing that we all ought to remember is that as much as good as we have done, precisely because the challenges were so daunting, precisely because we we were inheriting so many challenges, that we're not even halfway there yet. When I said 'change we can believe in' I didn't say 'change we can believe in tomorrow.' Not change we can believe in next week. We knew this was going to take time because we've got this big, messy, tough democracy," President Obama said at a campaign fundraiser in Chicago on Wednesday night.

No, he didn't say "tomorrow" or "next week." However, hedid actually provide a specific time frame. In 2009, he said: "if I don't have this done in three years, then there's going to be a one-term proposition."

We're now six months out from "three years." And what does "done" mean? Done seems to mean "economy fully recovered and growing."

I think "done" will have to be redefined as "barely begun" for him to have any chance.

Should he decline to run again? Even if he believes in the Leftist Dream, he has to begin to realize another leftist, without his track record of demonstrable failure, would have a better chance of keeping the dream alive.

The Chattering Classes have a heard mentality. While three months ago they were airily predicting Obama almost could not lose, they are now reversing themselves. This latest article from Politico is one of the most forward-leaning of its type so far, virtually predicting that Obama is doomed.

The consensus has been that for all his problems, Obama is so skilled a politician — and the eventual GOP nominee so flawed or hapless — that he’d most likely be reelected.

DonÂ’t buy into it.

This breezy certitude fails to reckon with how weak his fundamentals are a year out from the general election. Gallup pegs his approval rating at a discouraging 42 percent, with his standing among independents falling 9 points in four weeks.

His economic stats are even worse. The nation has 2.5 million fewer jobs today than the day Obama took office, a fact youÂ’re sure to hear the Republicans repeat. Consumer confidence is scraping levels not seen since March 2009.

Where’s the bright spot? Hard to see. Obama has few, if any, domestic achievements that enjoy broad public support. No one assumes employment, growth or housing prices to pick up much, if at all — something Obama is essentially powerless to change. And the political environment and electoral map are significantly tougher than in 2008, especially in true up-for-grabs states.

“The historical precedents of what happens to incumbent presidents in these economic circumstances are not positive or encouraging,” said Geoff Garin, a top Democratic pollster. “There has been a false sense of confidence among a lot of Democratic activists.”

Obama advisers acknowledge the challenges posed by the economy but argue that voters will like his rescue of the auto industry, signing of Wall Street reform, championing of new restrictions on credit-card issuers, repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell,” investments in clean energy and victory on insurance protection for people with pre-existing conditions.

OMG, he's going to run on the auto bailouts and Don't Ask, Don't Tell being repealed?

Is that the best you've got? Seriously?

That's a long piece from Politico, and worth reading in full (just for entertainment and schadenboners). Like coaches say, you're never as good as it looks like you are when you win, and you're never as bad as it looks like when you're losing.

But Obama has six to nine months to get us out of this hole. That's it. And if the double-dip comes -- forget it. That will take us deep into 2012.

One area Politico discusses (apart from the obvious ones -- the horrific economy, the $7 trillion in new debt he'll have added) is Obama's weak legislative legacy.

I don't think this stuff drives elections much in the first place. But it is notable that while Obama's stewardship of the economy gets low marks, his legislative accomplishments -- much easier things to do, given his party controlled Congress for two years -- are also unpopular.

A big hurdle for the president is the unpopularity of the very policies that his team thought would be big accomplishments in the first term.

Obama delivered on his promise to help prevent an economic collapse early on, help save the auto industry, crack down on Wall Street and then enact the most sweeping expansion of government-supported health care coverage since the 1960s. ItÂ’s not clear heÂ’s getting much of a political boost for any of it.

A top Democratic strategist who is close to the White House said that Obama’s first-term record “is going to be, on balance, probably a liability” for his reelection, partly “because of the failure to sell and explain the things that they were doing.”

Ah. That again. Obama, the alleged great communicator, just hasn't "sold" these wonderful things properly.

“I believe history will judge what they did to be correct,” the strategist said. “But the failure to communicate why they were doing it has meant that there is such confusion. … It’s ground he’s going to have to make up, rather than things he’s going to be able to run on.”

Polls show his economic policy, the health care law and the auto bailout get positive reviews from fewer than half of voters. Hard to see how that changes.

I suppose there is some room for liberal hope in the idea that Obama is such a great orator. He will fill people with gauzy good feelings as he did in 2008.

But is that even true? Was he a good orator, ever? Is he even above average?

Matthew Continenti doesn't think so.

Barack Obama has a communications problem. His reputation for eloquence and argument is highly exaggerated​—​at best. Speech after speech, appearance after appearance, the president has failed to persuade the undecided that his views are correct, much less win over opponents. You can blame partisan polarization, the institutional limitations of the presidency, the diversity of new media, whatever. The truth is, the more Obama talks, the worse he performs.

...

The classic example of the presidentÂ’s failure to sway public opinion remains health care. The Washington Post reports that Obama has delivered 58 speeches on the topic since he became president. An obvious case of diminishing returns: According to the RealClearPolitics average of polls, Americans oppose the presidentÂ’s health care overhaul 51 percent to 38 percent.

Now there is one card left to play, of course. Racism.

Oh I don't think that will fly. At all. I think it will be seen as what it is, an embarrassing demonstration of incompetent excuse-making for previous incompetence.

Still, some on the left are giving it a go.

Barack Obama's difficulties are the result of racism: It has been a frequently recurring theme ever since he emerged as a serious presidential candidate. Obama himself has raised it occasionally, though not often, but his supporters fall back on it all the time--including now.

Here's DeWayne Wickham in yesterday's USA Today: "This total lack of respect is downright contemptible--if not unpatriotic. Such contempt, I'm convinced, is rooted in something other than political differences. . . . The presence of Jim Crow, Jr.--a more subtle form of racism--is there."

What prompts these accusations of racism? In Wickham's words, Speaker John Boehner "contemptuously waited more than half a day to return a call from the president," and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor complained to reporters that Obama cut short a meeting, "as though the president needs his permission to end a White House gathering." In reference to the Cantor spat, Wickham writes:

That encounter might have reminded Obama of the open letter Frederick Douglass, a runaway slave and abolitionist who became one of this nation's first black diplomats, wrote to his slave master.

It would be "a privilege" to show you "how mankind ought to treat each other," Douglass told the man who had badly mistreated him. "I am your fellow man, but not your slave.

This is overwrought to the point of absurdity.

...

For the purpose of argument, let's stipulate that the assertion is true: that racism is the reason Barack Obama is unable to govern effectively. What are the implications?

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The trouble with this for the president's supporters is that one cannot assert Obama is unable to govern effectively because of racism without conceding that he is unable to govern effectively. To put it mildly, that is not a strong argument in favor of re-electing him.

It's all so absurd -- only racists would vote against a president who's had a 9% unemployment rate throughout most of his term! -- and yet, it's among their declining bullet-points in the case for Barack Obama.

Posted by: Ace at 01:30 PM | Comments (310)
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1

No, you didn't say "tomorrow" or "next week." However, you did actually provide a specific time frame: In 2009, he said: ""if I don't have this done in three years, then there's going to be a one-term proposition."


Don't read anything into that.  Obama's promises are utterly meaningless.

Posted by: Cicero at August 04, 2011 01:33 PM (QKKT0)

2 the allure of the office is too hard for the ego to resist.  They all say one term, stick to principles, blah blah blah, but none of them are willing to pack it up and surrender the office once they get there.

Posted by: California Red at August 04, 2011 01:33 PM (7uWb8)

3 Now I know I'm dreaming.  Please, don't wake me.

Posted by: elspeth at August 04, 2011 01:33 PM (0AkWH)

4 Oh dear. Well, fantasize if you must. Barry is running. Period. We need Purple Avenger to return and explain the habits of clinical narcissists.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2011 01:34 PM (AZGON)

5 No way...the people that surround him would not allow it.  It would mean the failure of the first black president who is the smartest man in the world.

Can't have that.

Posted by: Tami at August 04, 2011 01:35 PM (X6akg)

6 Preciousssss-ssssssss

Posted by: Hillary! at August 04, 2011 01:35 PM (4Kl5M)

7

Should he decline to run again? Even if he believes in the Leftist Dream, he has to begin to realize another leftist, without his track record of demonstrable failure, would have a better chance of keeping the dream alive.

Whether Obama believes in the Leftist Dream, he believes more strongly and deeply in his right to use Air Force One as the ultimate private jet and to have his favorite entertainers, sports stars and chefs come running to him at the snap of his fingers.  And his wife shares that deep commitment to sharing the perks of office.

Ex-Presidents get treated well, but they don't get the same treatment as when they were in office.  Obama will not give up the chance to extend his luxury ride another four years -- not for anything.

Posted by: stuiec at August 04, 2011 01:36 PM (Di3Im)

8 we're not even halfway there yet.

Ahhhhhhhh!

Posted by: Dow down 10% + at August 04, 2011 01:36 PM (4QeK8)

9 He should resign, but that would save the country he's trying to destroy.

Posted by: Chas at August 04, 2011 01:36 PM (49b0V)

10 Ace,

Pathological narcissists do not willingly give up the spotlight.  He will run.  He will lose.  And the usual suspects will talk of conspiracies, racism, and the immaturity of the American people (you know, the same that hired the guy in 200 .  For a preview, look around, they are already doing it.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 04, 2011 01:36 PM (7utQ2)

11

What prompts these accusations of racism? In Wickham's words, Speaker John Boehner "contemptuously waited more than half a day to return a call from the president," and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor complained to reporters that Obama cut short a meeting, "as though the president needs his permission to end a White House gathering."

 

OK.  And go back to the time when Bush was President and Pelosi walked to a microphone after her meeting with him was done and promptly announced he was a deranged lunatic (or something to that effect).  The MSM is getting very nervous.  Glad to see it.

Posted by: joejm65 at August 04, 2011 01:36 PM (UZuc4)

12 OMG, he's going to run on the auto bailouts and Don't Ask, Don't Tell being repealed?

Don't forget our gauzy dream of High Speed Rail, wingnut.

Posted by: Jay "Baghdad" Carney at August 04, 2011 01:37 PM (QKKT0)

13 only racists would vote against a president who's had a 9% unemployment rate throughout most of his term! -- and yet, it's among their declining bullet-points in the case for Barack Obama. Declining numbers of bullet points? Bullets? Such intemperate language. At any rate, libtards care nothing about needing bullet points to recommend Dick Soetero, because... SHUT UP!

Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2011 01:37 PM (AZGON)

14 The Chattering Classes have a heard mentality

Heh.  Was that on purpose?, because that is exactly right if it was.  One MFMer says something and they all repeat what they heard.

Posted by: Dow down 10% + at August 04, 2011 01:37 PM (4QeK8)

15

RCP Average Direction of the Country    6/24 - 7/31   
Right Track   24.5%    Wrong Track    68.3%
Spread    -43.8



Toast.

Posted by: reposted, for great justice at August 04, 2011 01:38 PM (GTbGH)

16 >>>Pathological narcissists do not willingly give up the spotlight. He will run. There's a Seinfeld where Elaine is agreeing with various slights of her boyfriend David Buddy. YES, she agrees, he is lazy! YES, she agrees, he is DUMB! Obama is a narcissist. He is also lazy. Further, narcissists seek to protect the ego. If it looks like he'll lose, he'd rather not compete. He can sign on to some plum NGO posting and get lots of love that way.

Posted by: ace at August 04, 2011 01:38 PM (nj1bB)

17 Should he decline to run?  Yes. 

He's going to be a drag to the point where a bunch of Dems in winnable House and Senate races will go down with him, a la Carter in '80 taking a bunch of entrenched Senators like Frank Church, George McGovern, and others out due to the early concession.


Will he decline to run?  No. 

The only thing he's really done since getting elected was to run an eternal re-election campaign.  There's no way he's going to leave before he and Mooch-elle live it up at taxpayer expense one last time.


It may come down to the Dems deciding to throw him under the bus in order to save themselves, otherwise we could end up seeing some shocking firsts like a Republican winning the open Senate seat vacated by Daniel Inouye in Hawaii.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 04, 2011 01:39 PM (JqpkY)

18 actually I overstated that. it's not that I think he'll beg off. It's that I think it's *possible* (say, 1 in 20).

Posted by: ace at August 04, 2011 01:39 PM (nj1bB)

19 Worst. President. Ever.

Posted by: Y-not at August 04, 2011 01:39 PM (5H6zj)

20 and socks are off.  pants too. the shirt off my back went to the obamadepression.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 04, 2011 01:39 PM (4QeK8)

21 I love it. Nice summary. Because of racism he cannot govern, so re-elect him to not be able to govern. So if he is re-elected, that proves racism is dead right? Isn't this what was said 3 years ago? Liberals yet again failing, and saying let's try it one more time and this time we'll get it perfect. And the checks in the mail and I won't...

Posted by: baseballguy at August 04, 2011 01:40 PM (MaS0T)

22 9 He should resign, but that would save the country he's trying to destroy.

I GOT MAIL! YAY!

Posted by: President.Corky.Biden at August 04, 2011 01:40 PM (gQLr2)

23
Obama has a vision.

Posted by: soothie at August 04, 2011 01:41 PM (sqkOB)

24 BRB, actin' stupidly

Posted by: Barry the Economist at August 04, 2011 01:41 PM (4Kl5M)

25

No, you didn't say "tomorrow" or "next week." However, you did actually provide a specific time frame: In 2009, he said: ""if I don't have this done in three years, then there's going to be a one-term proposition."

Don't read anything into that.  Obama's promises are utterly meaningless.

Posted by: Cicero at August 04, 2011 05:33 PM (QKKT0)

More to the point, Obama could never have dreamed in 2009 that his policies would have put him and the country into the position they are in.  He was certain then that unemployment would be under 6 percent, the deficit would be shrinking due to high GDP growth and concomitant revenues, and the world would be a tranquil and joyous ball of wonderfulness because of his transformative presence on the global stage.

If one of his advisors had pulled him aside after he made that statement and warned him that he'd virtually promised not to run if things weren't rosy and hunky-dory in Spring 2012, Obama would have said, "Relax, man -- what are the chances that the economy won't be chugging along by then?  Zero!"

Posted by: stuiec at August 04, 2011 01:41 PM (Di3Im)

26

I have said for 6 months he will not be the nominee. Health concerns or time with family will be the excuses, but Obama will NOT be the Democrat nominee. It would be iffy if the election was this November, but add in another whole year of this crap? The bloom is off the rose/turd. Once the average person sees that it is allowable to disapprove of Obama, and not racist, game over. He will lose at least another 5% in the polls, leaving only the die hard liberals/commies, and a certain group that voted for him at around 95%.

The left never gives up the cause, and if they have to use back channel pressure to get JEF to step aside, they will. Hillary could run as a centrist compared to Barky and have a very good shot at winning the whole thing.

Don't get me wrong, I want JEF to get his shot in the teeth. He can't take it, glass jaw and all that. It will absolutely destroy him. In the end, the big money Dems will even step on to save him from himself.

Posted by: Lord Humungus Wasteland Jihadi at August 04, 2011 01:41 PM (Yv6gq)

27

NO chance whatsover that Juguears will not run for re-election. 

If the last 3 years have taught us anything, it is that he is incapable of admitting failure.  Anytime he tries, he immediately shifts to blaming Bush or some other nefarious cause.

If the stock market picks up, it will be based on HOPE (that a Republican nominee will be able to beat Obama and begin a recovery that reverses his disastrous policies.

Posted by: Kortezzi at August 04, 2011 01:41 PM (piR98)

28 *cough*

Posted by: that guy that doesn't read all the comments at August 04, 2011 01:42 PM (GTbGH)

29 Thats the thing about narcicissm. The county could halfway be glowing due to a Iranian nuclear attack with the Dow hovering around 900 and a Mexican invasion imminent and Barry would still run. Because hes the most awsome person ever, THE ONE (tm), a legend (in his own mind) and who is he to deny us himself?

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 04, 2011 01:42 PM (NCw5u)

30 Obama has a vision.

Yeah and it's Double Dip Vision

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 04, 2011 01:42 PM (tf9Ne)

31 brb, growin' GDP 0.4%

Posted by: President Barky O'Bam-Bam at August 04, 2011 01:42 PM (nj1bB)

32 @24
You're still the worst ex-President. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 04, 2011 01:42 PM (5H6zj)

33 Worst. President. Ever.
Posted by: Y-not at August 04, 2011 05:39 PM (5H6zj)

I still think Buchanan's got him beat.  But you know who is coming up hard on the outside coming out of the clubhouse turn.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 04, 2011 01:42 PM (7utQ2)

34 I'd like to think that he is going to pull the 'one & done', but his poll numbers aren't that bad yet. Also, he has proven his firm belief in magical thinking (witness his 2012 budget); in other words, then a miracle happens.
 
Destiny and all that other happy yummy bullshit. Plus Michelle will pull his ears off and beat him with them once she realizes she's about to lose her staff of 26 toadies. He'll run and like it.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 04, 2011 01:43 PM (ENKCw)

35 If we call today "Black Thursday," would that be considered racist?  

I denounce myself in advance.

Posted by: Fritz at August 04, 2011 01:43 PM (/ZZCn)

36 I've been peddling this crazy semi-prediction for a year and a half. I've mentioned it on the blog. If Obama looks doomed a year out from the election, will he simply decline to run? ----------------------------------------------------- It's not so crazy. I've been telling the blacks at work that he won't run for re-elect for 6 months now. They think I'm crazy. I think Obama is so narcissistic, so arrogant, and soooooo resentful of a large percentage of Americans, that he SIMPLY WON'T ALLOW us the satisfaction of RUNNING HIS ASS OUT OF TOWN! He will NOT give us that satisfaction. He will REFUSE to take the ass beating he so richly deserves because he is a COWARD at heart. Obama has already laid the groundwork for his LBJ moment. He told a reporter that his wife and kids aren't "invested' in him being president. He ruminated that maybe "one term is enough". The only question is under what false pretense Obama will quit under.

Posted by: Larry Dickman at August 04, 2011 01:43 PM (4t9J5)

37 It's that I think it's *possible* (say, 1 in 20). Okay, I can buy that... if it's on the short side. I'd say one in forty he will refuse to run. History is totally against it. Gotta go back to LBJ to find the most recent example, almost fifty years ago, and there was a truly bloody war raging with a draft, campuses in flames as well as parts of cities in LA and Chicago, and LBJ only shrinked away after a contended in McGovern showed promise. Dick is already doing 2012 fundraising, for Gaia's sake. I now say one chance in 100.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2011 01:43 PM (AZGON)

38 "He will fill people with gauzy good feelings as he did in 2008."

I took a girl out on a date once. We went for dinner, then a stroll around town (I was a poor student). We then adjourned to my room, where she necked with me for about three minutes, and then left.

So for my comparatively large investment in time and money, I got three minutes of "gauzy good feelings."

It may have been (but really wasn't) worth it once, but I sure as shit didn't take her out for dinner again.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 04, 2011 01:43 PM (LH6ir)

39
Andrew Malcolm in the LAT used a succinct phrase that I think best describes Obama's presidency.

Ambitious but unspecified.

Obama knows where he wants to go but he doesn't have a fuckall clue about how to get there.

Posted by: soothie at August 04, 2011 01:43 PM (sqkOB)

40 >>>So for my comparatively large investment in time and money, I got three minutes of "gauzy good feelings." I fucked her.

Posted by: Will Folks at August 04, 2011 01:45 PM (nj1bB)

41 shrinked away after a contender in McGovern showed Friggin' typo

Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2011 01:45 PM (AZGON)

42

"Obama has few, if any, domestic achievements that enjoy broad public support."

But he does look great in expensive sunglasses, enjoys the finest wine, and let's not talk bout how moist he makes liberal women.

He's got a lot to recommend him.

Let's vote him in again. He's black.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz at August 04, 2011 01:45 PM (tcSZb)

43 The question is simple:

1. Does anyone here no of anyone who was NOT an Obama supporter in 2008 that IS now?

2. Does anyone here know of anyone who supported Obama in 2008 that no longer does?

Add to that that he has completely lost independents and there is no way blacks and young people will voted for him in droves like last time and I believe you are looking at a landslide electoral defeat.

The remaining question is, when do the powers that be in the Democrat Party also come to this revelation and realize that not only will they lose the presidency with Obama in 2012, they will get crushed in Congress on his coattails of defeat.

When that word goes out, look for the MSM to turn on Obama like a pack of hungry wolves.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at August 04, 2011 01:45 PM (uVlA4)

44 California Dems want to primary him.  That is not a good sign if California wants to primary a sitting Dem president.

Posted by: mpfs, Weeping, Broke, Tea Party Terrorist at August 04, 2011 01:46 PM (iYbLN)

45 Posted by: Will Folks at August 04, 2011 05:45 PM (nj1bB)

LMFAO!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 04, 2011 01:46 PM (LH6ir)

46 If you foolishly decide not to reelect Me, just remember that I'll have more than two months to finish destroying the country, and I won't even have to pretend that's not My goal any more.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at August 04, 2011 01:46 PM (c45xH)

47

Everyone is saying "if the double dip comes..."   That is ludicrous. We never got out of the first dip.  We're just sinking lower.

He'll also run on how he "got" OBL.

Posted by: kevlarchick at August 04, 2011 01:46 PM (TNuqz)

48 we have made some incredible strides together.

One small step for man, one huge clusterfuck for mankind.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 04, 2011 01:46 PM (Hx5uv)

49 It may have been (but really wasn't) worth it once, but I sure as shit didn't take her out for dinner again.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 04, 2011 05:43 PM (LH6ir)

She probably went to go see Buzz Lighttouch after y'all were done, CBD.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 04, 2011 01:46 PM (JqpkY)

50

From Taranto's Best of the Web:

Stuck With Obama

Another man of the left who is unhappy with President Obama is Washington Post columnist Harold Meyerson, one of about three self-described socialists in America. "President Obama is faring poorly these days," Meyerson observes, "but he can console himself with the fact that he'll probably be spared the fate of previous presidents who fell on hard times: a primary challenge."

Meyerson identifies two reasons for this. The first is that among the left, antipathy toward the Republicans outweighs dissatisfaction with the president. The second is interesting:

The other reason Obama hasn't faced a challenge, and isn't likely to, is that he's black. Any Democrat who would challenge Obama, whatever the basis of his or her candidacy, would almost surely encounter intense opposition from the party's African American base, the one group in Democrats' orbit that regularly votes Democratic at a 90 percent rate. Such a challenge could create a rift that might take decades to heal.

Yesterday we examined, and rejected, the proposition that racism is to blame for Obama's troubles. Here is a man of the left arguing that Obama is benefitting politically from race-based solicitude because he is black. #BeforeBlackPresidents, a failed president had to worry about a primary challenge.

Posted by: stuiec at August 04, 2011 01:46 PM (Di3Im)

51 Gotta go back to LBJ to find the most recent example, almost fifty years ago, and there was a truly bloody war raging with a draft, campuses in flames as well as parts of cities in LA and Chicago, and LBJ only shrinked away after a contended in McGovern showed promise.

It was McCarthy in '68.

And as for those other indicators, it's only August of 2011.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 04, 2011 01:46 PM (7utQ2)

52 Not run for a second term? Well it would give me more tee time.

Posted by: President Corky Mcfuckup at August 04, 2011 01:46 PM (0yGvK)

53 I took a girl out on a date once. We went for dinner, then a stroll around town (I was a poor student). We then adjourned to my room, where she necked with me for about three minutes, and then left.

So for my comparatively large investment in time and money, I got three minutes of "gauzy good feelings."

It may have been (but really wasn't) worth it once, but I sure as shit didn't take her out for dinner again.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 04, 2011 05:43 PM (LH6ir)

I was on the rag. Asshole.

Posted by: CharlieBrown's Dildo's date at August 04, 2011 01:47 PM (NCw5u)

54 If Obama looks doomed a year out from the election, will he simply decline to run?

He God damn well better. We need to see him repudiated by the voters. After all he has put us through, we deserve some satisfaction.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 04, 2011 01:47 PM (NecE5)

55 If He is Leader material then One would have to assume He has done what was needed and done it well ,,,If we sya that is true, then the answer would be What He has done is intentional. So He needs to stay the Leader?

Posted by: willow at August 04, 2011 01:47 PM (h+qn8)

56 Obama knows where he wants to go but he doesn't have a fuckall clue about how to get there. Or, he knows he wants to go someplace really, really cool, but not only doesn't he know how to get there, he doesn't even know what it looks like or in which direction it might lie.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2011 01:47 PM (AZGON)

57 The sad part is that Obama's lack of positive results to this point are completely unsurprising.  His place in history will likely be that he was the president who finally killed Keynesian Economics once and for all.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at August 04, 2011 01:47 PM (uVlA4)

58 Better not, that is.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 04, 2011 01:48 PM (NecE5)

59 Thats the thing about narcicissm. The county could halfway be glowing due to a Iranian nuclear attack with the Dow hovering around 900 and a Mexican invasion imminent and Barry would still run. Because hes the most awsome person ever, THE ONE (tm), a legend (in his own mind) and who is he to deny us himself?

Hey, If I hadn't been president, we'd all be speaking Farsi, the Dow would be at 90, and there'd be a Taco Bell on every corner.

Posted by: Barky Malarky at August 04, 2011 01:48 PM (Hx5uv)

60 I don't use bad language as a member of the United Methodist Church of Cut & Shoot, Texas, but this Obama guy is one of the men folks worm things. Mary, I don't think he likes to fish.

Posted by: fluffy at August 04, 2011 01:48 PM (4Kl5M)

61 The other reason Obama hasn't faced a challenge, and isn't likely to, is that he's black. Any Democrat who would challenge Obama, whatever the basis of his or her candidacy, would almost surely encounter intense opposition from the party's African American base from the Department of the Obvious Uh, HELLO!

Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2011 01:48 PM (AZGON)

62
let's recall some of our favorites.

"America is Back" by Newsweek

and Esquire mag gave us this just a month ago:

"Can we just enjoy Obama for a moment? [...] Because twenty years from now, we're going to look back on this time as a glorious idyll in American politics, with a confident, intelligent, fascinating president riding the surge of his prodigious talents from triumph to triumph. Whatever happens this fall or next, the summer of 2011 is the summer of Obama."

Posted by: soothie at August 04, 2011 01:48 PM (sqkOB)

63 Such a challenge could create a rift that might take decades to heal.

So, if there is a primary challenge, it can only come from another African-American.

Looking at you Harold Ford.

Posted by: toby928™ at August 04, 2011 01:49 PM (GTbGH)

64 Do any of you wingnutz have a degree in economics?  The President is doing the best he can, with all the teabaggerz trying to bring him down.

Posted by: C*ntessa Brewer at August 04, 2011 01:49 PM (UOM48)

65 It was McCarthy in '68. oops, sorry, a thinko as well as a typo

Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2011 01:49 PM (AZGON)

66 His place in history will likely be that he was the president who finally killed Keynesian Economics once and for all.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at August 04, 2011 05:47 PM (uVlA4)

Yo. Pretty sure we should own that one.

Posted by: Greece at August 04, 2011 01:49 PM (NCw5u)

67 When I said 'change we can believe in' I didn't say 'change we can believe in tomorrow.' Not change we can believe in next week. --------------------------------------------------------- So this is what he's running on? This jackass is toast.

Posted by: Larry Dickman at August 04, 2011 01:49 PM (4t9J5)

68 He is going on a bus tour to "promote jobs" troughout the midwest and will be using tax dollars to ride around in this. No campaigning here. He is stupid to be using the same slogan.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at August 04, 2011 01:50 PM (kG75t)

69 He'll also run on how he "got" OBL. Posted by: kevlarchick He'll drop this nugget in the opening statement of any debate and in the closing as well.. It will be like Bart Simpson saying, "I didn't do it"..

Posted by: Dave C at August 04, 2011 01:50 PM (rus4r)

70 Who knows.

I'll be in my bunk until tomorrow.

Striking all the big red words from my little black book.

Posted by: goy at August 04, 2011 01:51 PM (AfU1B)

71 Remember when he told us re Libya, days not weeks?


Here's your sign.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 04, 2011 01:51 PM (UOM48)

72 obama is the worst president in american history.

Posted by: James at August 04, 2011 01:51 PM (GkYyh)

73
1. Does anyone here no of anyone who was NOT an Obama supporter in 2008 that IS now?

2. Does anyone here know of anyone who supported Obama in 2008 that no longer does?

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at August 04, 2011 05:45 PM (uVlA4)


May be just anecdotal, but being from uberlib metro NY, I had several friends who voted for The Won, mainly to prove they weren't racists. When I couldn't convince my one friend who I consider the bellwether voter (basically fundamentally conservative, but doesn't know it), I knew we had no chance. I knew the bloodbath was coming last year when the bellwether told me he was voting party line R. Even my dedicated commie-lib friends hate the JEF now. One-and-done.

Posted by: mugiwara at August 04, 2011 01:52 PM (KI/Ch)

74

 

 

You cannot have ze duck.  You think with a portfolio like zees you can have ze duck?!

You can have ze chicken.

 

Posted by: Patrick Stewart at August 04, 2011 01:52 PM (/GX8/)

75 Obama knows where he wants to go

Prove it.  Inconsistency is a libtard trait, but this guy has raised it to a level somewhere between the orbits of Jupiter and Saturn.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 04, 2011 01:52 PM (7utQ2)

76 Must have the precious. The precious. *gollum*. The precious. Do not care if I fall into lava, silly Hobbiteses.

Posted by: Barack "Gollum" Obama at August 04, 2011 01:52 PM (136wp)

77 Wow. it is fun and refreshing to go through all these slobbering magazine articles shortsightedness. Its like they were never based on fact and had, i dunno, an agenda.

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 04, 2011 01:52 PM (NCw5u)

78 Thats the thing about narcissism. The county could halfway be glowing due to a Iranian nuclear attack with the Dow hovering around 900 and a Mexican invasion imminent and Barry would still run. Because hes the most awesome person ever, THE ONE (tm), a legend (in his own mind) and who is he to deny us himself? Posted by: Jollyroger

x2.

He's getting donations (Other People's Money) and there is no credible challenger. No reason not to run.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 04, 2011 01:53 PM (DEcmU)

79 The Dems have no one to run against Barry.  Hillary?  Please.  She has fucked up so much as SOS that would be a joke.  Biden?  Bwahahahaha.  Harold Ford?  No way, down in flames.  They have no one for the near future.  This is our time and if we screw up and nominate a "McCain" again we deserve what we get.

Posted by: mpfs, Weeping, Broke, Tea Party Terrorist at August 04, 2011 01:53 PM (iYbLN)

80 Well, to indulge the fantasy of a primary challenge, who precisely will decide to oppose the First Best Historically Brilliant Black Preznident? Such a chimerical beast is running out of time to announce. If you say "Cankles" you immediately lose the contest.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2011 01:53 PM (AZGON)

81 no he's not doomed and yes he will run and i hate to say it he will probably win because of people that live in big cities.......

Posted by: dɥoǝuıxƃıɹl at August 04, 2011 01:53 PM (eOXTH)

82 76 obama is the worst president in american history.

Thankfully, no one remembers me anymore.  If they do, they think I'm some jackhole in a tent in Korea.

Posted by: Franklin Pierce at August 04, 2011 01:53 PM (JqpkY)

83

You can have ze chicken.

Posted by: Patrick Stewart at August 04, 2011 05:52 PM (/GX8/)

Make it so, Number One.

Posted by: Barack "The Alien" Obama at August 04, 2011 01:53 PM (136wp)

84 59 Obama knows where he wants to go but he doesn't have a fuckall clue about how to get there. Or, he knows he wants to go someplace really, really cool, but not only doesn't he know how to get there, he doesn't even know what it looks like or in which direction it might lie. He knows where he wants to go.. He just can't say where he wants to go otherwise people would shit their pants.. He can't announce that "I want to make America a third world nation. It's unfair that they are the lone super power they are." So he has to softly step around that part of his plan and do everything under the guise of 'fairness'

Posted by: Dave C at August 04, 2011 01:53 PM (rus4r)

85 I fucked her.

Posted by: Will Folks at August 04, 2011 05:45 PM (nj1bB)

 

Ace has the best Will Folk sock.  Always awesome.

Posted by: garrett at August 04, 2011 01:54 PM (/GX8/)

86
not to mention this from April 2010:

“We caught a lot of bad breaks on the way down. We’re going to catch a few good breaks because of good planning on the way up.... All in all, we’re going to be creating somewhere between 100,000 and 200,000 jobs next month."

That sounded so good to Biden's own ears and the crowd in PA loved it, too. So Joe went even further with this:

"Even some in the White House said, 'Hey, don't get ahead of yourself.' Well, I'm here to tell you, some time in the next couple of months, we're going to be creating between 250,000 jobs a month and 500,000 jobs a month."


Posted by: soothie at August 04, 2011 01:54 PM (sqkOB)

87 You know I read the blog with the psychics.  I like to keep up with he fringe.  Anyway, they are having a big controversy.  Some new poster by the name of "sarah prophecies" is predicting that we will have a blond woman president who will be an evil dictator.  Now, over there you are not allowed to predict politics or discuss it, so she sort of opened pandora's box.  But, she has caused her own little firestorm in their quiet little psychic world by adding such details as "she has 5 children" and "we don't know who she is yet".  It's fun to watch the goings on.  My first thought is "does sbellius have 5 kids?"

Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 01:54 PM (k1rwm)

88 I wonder how many states Bammy will campaign in this time.  For 2008, he went to 57 states.  That shows determination right there.

Posted by: Marmo the Greater at August 04, 2011 01:54 PM (Tm9Vp)

89 who precisely will decide to oppose the First Best Historically Brilliant Black Preznident?

J3?

Posted by: toby928™ at August 04, 2011 01:55 PM (GTbGH)

90 So he has to softly step around that part of his plan and do everything under the guise of 'fairness' Fairness = Evenly spread misery for large values of Dick Soetero

Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2011 01:55 PM (AZGON)

91 Sigh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 04, 2011 01:55 PM (UOM48)

92 Never mind. Thats not the bus. Zip just used the 2008 one. But a bus tour? C'mon

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at August 04, 2011 01:55 PM (kG75t)

93 You ignorant muthafukas.  I'm just getting started.  Wait till I begin my second term and extend it to 10 years.

You WILL enjoy my Hope & Change, but first you will blow me!

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at August 04, 2011 01:56 PM (WeedA)

94

Way too soon to write Toonces off.  The economy will come back in anticipation of a new President.  And Obama will claim it's the long overdue recovery he's promised.  We can only hope it'll be too little too late.  He is a formidable liar, I mean campaigner. 

From now to November 2012, the Dow & other market indices will fluctuate inversely with Jugears' poll numbers.

Posted by: Kortezzi at August 04, 2011 01:56 PM (piR98)

95 OMG!

Posted by: dɥoǝuıxƃıɹl at August 04, 2011 01:56 PM (eOXTH)

96 who precisely will decide to oppose the First Best Historically Brilliant Black Preznident? J3? Comedy black gold.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2011 01:56 PM (AZGON)

97

Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 05:54 PM (k1rwm)

You mean the psychic website who's bullshit you actually believe.

Posted by: buzzion at August 04, 2011 01:56 PM (oVQFe)

98 They have no one for the near future.  This is our time and if we screw up and nominate a "McCain" again we deserve what we get.

They have two candidates I see as viable to the center and right, but are unpalatable to the far left and black voters in their party...  former Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN) and former Gov. Phil Brederson (D-TN).

I don't see them being nominated in 2012 because those two groups would just sit at home, but I could see them being possibilities for 2016 if there's a housecleaning after Obama loses.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 04, 2011 01:56 PM (JqpkY)

99 102 exactly.......

Posted by: dɥoǝuıxƃıɹl at August 04, 2011 01:57 PM (eOXTH)

100 Posted by: dɥoǝuıxƃıɹl at August 04, 2011 05:56 PM (eOXTH)



LOL

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 04, 2011 01:57 PM (UOM48)

101 I was going to caution not to be too optimistic because the media is going to completely prostitute themselves to save Barky.  But then I realized they already have.  Where can they go from here?

Posted by: sherlock at August 04, 2011 01:57 PM (6rLSO)

102 was it a psychic blog or a blog for psychotics?

Posted by: dɥoǝuıxƃıɹl at August 04, 2011 01:57 PM (eOXTH)

103 *squirt*

Posted by: Anthony Weiner, five times a day at August 04, 2011 01:58 PM (w41GQ)

104
So to answer the question if Obama is doomed -- yes.

Because he is surrounded by fools and nincompoops such as Joe Biden, Tim Geithner, David Plouffe, Newsweek, Esquire, Politico, NBC, CBS, Eric Holder, and so on.

Obama is a polished turd and no one wants to buy a polished turd...again.

Posted by: soothie at August 04, 2011 01:58 PM (sqkOB)

105 Well Larry, I'm going with inexplicable health reasons.. Posted by: Fish the Impaler at August 04, 2011 05:46 PM (Lt/Za) -------------------------------------------------- Possible. But that skinny bastard wolfing down cheeseburgers, golfing and shooting hoops makes that scenario unlikely. I say he is going with "family considerations".

Posted by: Larry Dickman at August 04, 2011 01:58 PM (4t9J5)

106 That sounded so good to Biden's own ears and the crowd in PA loved it, too. So Joe went even further with this [in April 2010]: "...Well, I'm here to tell you, some time in the next couple of months, we're going to be creating between 250,000 jobs a month and 500,000 jobs a month." WASF... because we learned today that apparently Biden is smarter than Dick.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2011 01:58 PM (AZGON)

107 Barky's having a cookout for his birfday.  Pic at Drudge.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 04, 2011 01:58 PM (UOM48)

108 Larry and I are on the same page. Obama will absolutely NOT let us savor how fantastic his defeat would be for us. No way in hell. Add in the fact that many states have added ID laws for voting, and taken steps to eliminate voter fraud, not to mention that ACORN is at least weakened, and you have electoral disaster baked in for the Dems. He only beat John Me Too/My Friends McCain by roughly 4% in the popular vote people. John McCain. Can you imagine if we get an unapologetic conservative to run against Obama and show the stark contrast? I hope the JEF stays in. Wooo!

Posted by: Lord Humungus Wasteland Jihadi at August 04, 2011 01:58 PM (Yv6gq)

109 Didn't Barone or someone similar say a good while back that Obizzle would never finish his term?  Can't remember who it was, but someone did.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at August 04, 2011 01:58 PM (xy9wk)

110 Does anyone remember the movie Miracle? It was about the U.S. Olympic hockey team in 1980. During the penultimate game, when the U.S. team was about to beat the Soviets, The U.S. coach looks over at the Soviet coach -- who was twiddling his eyebrows and looking like a deer in the headlights -- and said: "he doesn't know what to do!"

That is Obama. He has bullshitted his way through life on the color of his skin and the facile glibness of his oratory, aided by the affirmative action of all who had any influence. Now, when there is nobody above him in the heirarchy to coddle him and cover for him, he is well and truly fucked. The only problem is that now there are 300,000,000 Americans who depend on him to do the smart, or at least the least stupid thing, and...he doesn't know what to do!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 04, 2011 01:59 PM (LH6ir)

111
er, twice, rather

Posted by: soothie at August 04, 2011 01:59 PM (sqkOB)

112 I now say one chance in 100.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2011 05:43 PM (AZGON)

So you're saying there's a chance.  Yeahhhh!!!

Posted by: angler at August 04, 2011 01:59 PM (SwjAj)

113 Well, to indulge the fantasy of a primary challenge, who precisely will decide to oppose the First Best Historically Brilliant Black Preznident? Such a chimerical beast is running out of time to announce.

The nation calls out for Cynthia McKinney.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 04, 2011 01:59 PM (Hx5uv)

114 Obama's ego won't let him drop out. He'll keep expecting some kind of affirmative action program to save him.

He doesn't know how to fail because nobody has ever allowed him to fail.


Posted by: sifty t. baggins the Tearorist at August 04, 2011 01:59 PM (ECjvn)

115

Sounds like a wonderful commercial:

Voice over:  "In 2009, Barky promised to fundamentally change America..."

Start video of Obamster saying (or printed on screen) "if I don't have this done in three years...

transition into the tidbits showing the bailout, the stimulus, and Obamacare being passed -- into unemployment rates rising, stock market crashing, GDP flatlining, national debt skyrocketing (this may actual be a hockey stick graph I can believe in unfortunately) , etc.

transition back to Obamster with ", then there's going to be a one-term proposition."

conclude with the debt numbers continuing to tick up, with voice over "Is he done yet?"

Posted by: Dilligas at August 04, 2011 01:59 PM (HhjUQ)

116 I was going to caution not to be too optimistic because the media is going to completely prostitute themselves to save Barky. But then I realized they already have. Where can they go from here? You have no idea of the depths we are capable of sinking. Shame? we produce anti-shame by the buckets. We're just getting started.

Posted by: The MFM at August 04, 2011 01:59 PM (rus4r)

117 Barky's having a cookout for his birfday. I think they are burning shares of stock for tinder.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2011 02:00 PM (AZGON)

118 106 I was going to caution not to be too optimistic because the media is going to completely prostitute themselves to save Barky.  But then I realized they already have.  Where can they go from here?

Posted by: sherlock at August 04, 2011 05:57 PM (6rLSO)

Oh, you haven't seen their "The Sophisticates Joke" yet

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 04, 2011 02:00 PM (136wp)

119 But then I realized they already have.  Where can they go from here?

Actual, open fondling.

I have Matthews in the pool.  So to speak.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 04, 2011 02:00 PM (7utQ2)

120   I like to keep up with the fringe

You  don't need to "keep up", honey-bun;    you are the fringe

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, punching down at August 04, 2011 02:00 PM (UqKQV)

121 115 charliebrown i didn't watch the movie....as a non millenial....i actually watched the real game on tv!!!!!!!!! 'cause, i'm old...

Posted by: dɥoǝuıxƃıɹl at August 04, 2011 02:00 PM (eOXTH)

122

Not counting Bill Clinton, you have to admit I am the greatest Black President this country has had.  Ever!

Posted by: Barack Obama, The President of the Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations. at August 04, 2011 02:00 PM (hbAPu)

123 hey where is the student loan person?   Heard the news?  They are caping loans and they are no longer subsidized and they are charging interest.

thanks mr. boehner.

Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 02:01 PM (k1rwm)

124 posted by: Dilligas at August 04, 2011 05:59 PM (HhjUQ) Come now, you can't expect the GOP to run such a terroristic, racist, hysterically false ad. Just because it is true doesn't mean we can say it.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2011 02:02 PM (AZGON)

125 Oh, he'll run.  He's spent his entire career in pursuit of the job he now has.  More importantly, I don't think he thinks he can lose.  I mean, he never has before.

Posted by: blue star at August 04, 2011 02:02 PM (MLZxF)

126 You know I read the blog with the psychics.  I like to keep up with he fringe. 

Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 05:54 PM (k1rwm)


Even Miss Cleo thinks Obama is toast.


So you know psychics too?  Where do you find the time?

Posted by: mpfs, Weeping, Broke, Tea Party Terrorist at August 04, 2011 02:02 PM (iYbLN)

127 ego won't allow it



o/t
can't tell if I'm relieved or sadden by the fact that Eureka is ending after next season

Posted by: The Dude at August 04, 2011 02:02 PM (M8yfa)

128 Posted by: dɥoǝuıxƃıɹl at August 04, 2011 06:00 PM (eOXTH)

I watched it too, but I don't know whether the quotation is real, so I used the movie.

But wow, you are old. Did you ride a horse to school?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 04, 2011 02:02 PM (LH6ir)

129 107 was it a psychic blog or a blog for psychotics?

Posted by: dɥoǝuýxƃýɹl at August 04, 2011 05:57 PM (eOXTH)

my psychic told me you'd say that.

Posted by: curiousity at August 04, 2011 02:02 PM (c45xH)

130 BHO: WTF!

Posted by: Barack Hussain Obama: Winning the Future at August 04, 2011 02:03 PM (hbAPu)

131 He doesn't know how to fail because nobody has ever allowed him to fail. Exactly.. He in it to the very bitter end. End of the Nation or a one and done Pres... That's up in the air.

Posted by: Dave C at August 04, 2011 02:03 PM (rus4r)

132 sigh

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 04, 2011 02:03 PM (UOM48)

133 So why is Obama still beating all GOP contenders (apart from tying Romney)?  Is that a sign that the GOP field is terribly weak?

Posted by: Jim at August 04, 2011 02:03 PM (YwDKF)

134 Face it folks, the GOP has to put up a candidate to run against Dick Soetero. There is no other opponent and there won't be.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2011 02:03 PM (AZGON)

135 He's been known to cause narcolepsy, just by giving a speech.

He's won elections, for his ability to read a teleprompter.

He once had a feeling of humility, but it passed.

He is the most arrogant man in the world.

Posted by: Barry Soetero at August 04, 2011 02:03 PM (bRMSH)

136 I would say that the main reason Obama is having difficulty communicating his message is that he is having no difficulty communicating it at all.  We hear it loud and clear and we have decided it is bullshit.

The dem talking heads seem to think if only Obama could present the progressive agenda using just the right magic words we would all suddenly say "aha!" and fall into line.  But we are not stupid.  You can wrap a shit sandwich in wonder bread but it will still taste like shit.

Obama himself even said today that the reason he has not succeeded is because of this damned democracy thing.  If only he could just rule like a king everything would be fine (btw, the scary party is that he really does believe that).

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at August 04, 2011 02:03 PM (uVlA4)

137 Here's the rub when it comes to great things, they don't need explaining. Sliced bread, awesome. No explanation needed. Bacon, delish. Ditto on the explaining. If you have to explain greatness, it's safe to say, it wasn't achieved.

Posted by: twiceblessedmom at August 04, 2011 02:03 PM (ttO5a)

138 They are caping loans and they are no longer subsidized and they are charging interest.

They already charge interest.  They should be capped.  And I have no idea what you mean by subsidized.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 04, 2011 02:04 PM (7utQ2)

Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 02:04 PM (k1rwm)

140

who precisely will decide to oppose the First Best Historically Brilliant Black Preznident?

A half black half Hispanic female of "different abilities".

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 04, 2011 02:04 PM (XdlcF)

141

can't tell if I'm relieved or sadden by the fact that Eureka is ending after next season

I've watched 7 of the 8 episodes of Outcasts and I'm angry beyond reason that there will never be an episode 9.

Posted by: FireHorse at August 04, 2011 02:04 PM (gTGz3)

142 @140 (golf clap)

Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2011 02:04 PM (AZGON)

143 Why did I ghost write that book for the JEF? I could have written a piece about the street gangs of Cairo for Mademoiselle instead. I can't help but feel responsible for destruction that's a little too devastating even for me. Definitely the worst thing I ever did in my life.

Posted by: Bill Ayers at August 04, 2011 02:04 PM (STTZD)

144 brb: Piveting to jobs.

Posted by: Barack Obama, Short Attention Spander in Chief at August 04, 2011 02:05 PM (hbAPu)

145

Damn it, I forgot to say lesbian.

I hate it when I forget the lesbian...

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 04, 2011 02:05 PM (XdlcF)

146 Can.Not.Wait. for Carney's presser tomorrow.  He may commit suicide on live television.

*makes note to pick up popcorn tomorrow*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 04, 2011 02:05 PM (UOM48)

147 the particular blog post is "Why was one of my predictions removed?"

Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 02:05 PM (k1rwm)

148 Whatever his other faults, James Buchanan was at least an American.  Comrade Zero has no understanding of or appreciation for the values that made this nation the powerhouse of the planet in 200 years.

Explains a hell of a lot.

Posted by: Cicero at August 04, 2011 02:05 PM (QKKT0)

149

brb: Piveting to jobs

 

Posted by: Barack Obama, Short Attention Spander in Chief at August 04, 2011 02:06 PM (hbAPu)

150 Pat knows psychics?  Can they even tell if it is a boy or a girl?

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 04, 2011 02:06 PM (c0A3e)

151 144 Psychic blog.

Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 06:04 PM (k1rwm)

Only you are dumb enough to believe psychics.  But then again you think Perry won't fly in other states because he's from Texas.  Oh but Ron Paul will fly in other states.  And Trump and Giuliani are serious contenders.  So you are pretty stupid.

Posted by: buzzion at August 04, 2011 02:06 PM (oVQFe)

152 Obama's talent for oratory lies not in delivering a speech, but in making empty rhetoric and empty slogans sound not empty.  Where this is not enough is when people take time to consider the rhetoric and the slogans and they see that without the practiced inflection and honed concern, the rhetoric and the slogans are still empty.
Obama was elected because those who voted for him were enthralled by his ability to read a speech.  Those who continue to support him remain enthralled by that singular superficial talent. 

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 04, 2011 02:06 PM (jx2j9)

153 my psychic told me you'd say that.

that's what she said.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 04, 2011 02:06 PM (QMtmy)

154

I've watched 7 of the 8 episodes of Outcasts and I'm angry beyond reason that there will never be an episode 9.

Posted by: FireHorse at August 04, 2011 06:04 PM (gTGz3)


awesome show and it's going to have a second season

Posted by: The Dude at August 04, 2011 02:06 PM (M8yfa)

155 Ace, there's one little problem with your theory (and I'm just a moron who doesn't read all the comments, so maybe it's been pointed out). Whose campaign was he fundraising for again?

Posted by: Methos at August 04, 2011 02:06 PM (sOXQX)

156

the particular blog post is "Why was one of my predictions removed?"

and I'm pretty sure one of you selfish bitches had something to do with it.

Posted by: curiousity at August 04, 2011 02:06 PM (c45xH)

157 Will He Bother Even Running?

If it starts looking like he's going to suffer a landslide defeat, I wouldn't be surprised if he does quit.

His ego is unlikely to handle being crushed very well.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at August 04, 2011 02:07 PM (1rHeD)

158 brb: Piveting to jobs

Posted by: Barack Obama, Short Attention Spander in Chief at August 04, 2011 02:07 PM (hbAPu)

159 AP - ...Obama was free to travel to Chicago Wednesday for the birthday-themed fundraisers after reaching a deal with Republicans earlier in the week to raise the nation's debt ceiling and avert a calamitous government default. With the cloud of uncertainty that surrounded the debt debate now lifted, Obama had a wide smile on his face for much of the night, especially as musicians Jennifer Hudson, Herbie Hancock and the band OK Go, along with the crowd of about 2,400 gathered at Chicago's historic Aragon Ballroom, sang "Happy Birthday." Yeah, sounds just like he is planning on bowing out of the race. *snort*

Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2011 02:07 PM (AZGON)

160 138

Have you been dropping acid?

Posted by: mpfs, Weeping, Broke, Tea Party Terrorist at August 04, 2011 02:07 PM (iYbLN)

161

Ace, the presidential election of 2012 may be the least of our worries if this DOOM! thing goes the way I'm thinking it will. We've hit the debt wall. And I'm talking about total debt, not just government debt, which is about 350% of GDP. Yes, that's right. 150% seems to be the limit. We held there from the end of WWII (after the Depression worked off the last time total debt went over 200%) up until the late 80s or so. And then the Ponzi started, accelerating with the housing bubble. We hit 200% of GDP in 2000, and should have crashed then, but the Fed and Fannie and Freddie managed to keep the Ponzi going a little longer and get us to 350%.

       It's over. That debt must be destroyed, and that means weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth. We're not going to grow one iota until this bad debt is done away with. And that means Great Depression 2.0. Our only choice is whether that will be deflationary depression, or a (hyper-)inflationary one. Governments survive deflationary collapses. They don't survive hyperinflationary ones.

   A half-assed joke I start hearing in tin-foil circles was that Obama would be the last president of the first American Revolution. That doesn't seem so crazy a thought to me now.

       We don't have 10 years, maybe not even 5.

       

Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at August 04, 2011 02:07 PM (VVB18)

162 Is stupid catching?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 04, 2011 02:08 PM (UOM48)

163 I love how SCF's campaign slogan is "Are You In?"

Some enterprising individual ought to figure out how to make supplemental bumper stickers that change the slogan to Are You Insane?!

Also, you got a question, you ask the 8 Ball (Puddy).

Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at August 04, 2011 02:08 PM (4136b)

164 143 They are caping loans and they are no longer subsidized and they are charging interest.

They already charge interest.  They should be capped.  And I have no idea what you mean by subsidized.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 04, 2011 06:04 PM (7utQ2)

essentially they are cutting off the knees of the "rich kids" to provide pell grants to the poor kids.  A lot of the selfish parents of the "rich kids" didn't save so the rich kids have been using loans.  If they start charging them interest from day 1 of college, then they are screwed and your kid now won't be able to go to college. 


Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 02:08 PM (k1rwm)

165

I hate it when I forget the lesbian...

 

I keep one in the trunk of my car, along with a toothbrush and a clean pair of boxers.

For emergencies.

Posted by: garrett at August 04, 2011 02:08 PM (/GX8/)

166 As others have said, I want a Jimmy Carter style hope crushing.  If Barry bails, I will feel cheated indeed.

Posted by: toby928™ at August 04, 2011 02:09 PM (GTbGH)

167 hmm guess they're not going ahead with a second season

Posted by: The Dude at August 04, 2011 02:09 PM (M8yfa)

168 It doesn't really much matter what country you are in when the elites and bankers capture the country, the people get boned.

A French court on Thursday ordered an investigation into new IMF chief Christine Lagarde's role in a $400 million arbitration deal in favor of a controversial tycoon.

Investigators will open an inquiry this week into possible charges of "complicity to embezzlement of public funds" and "complicity to forgery," prosecutors said.

Lagarde was France's finance minister when magnate Bernard Tapie won a 2008 settlement with a French state-owned bank over the mishandled sale of sportswear maker Adidas in the 1990s. Critics viewed the settlement as an overly generous chunk of taxpayer money handed to a brash businessman.


Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 04, 2011 02:10 PM (4QeK8)

169

essentially they are cutting off the knees of the "rich kids" to provide pell grants to the poor kids.  A lot of the selfish parents of the "rich kids" didn't save so the rich kids have been using loans.  If they start charging them interest from day 1 of college, then they are screwed and your kid now won't be able to go to college. 


Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 06:08 PM (k1rwm)


Damn those "selfish parents" to hell!!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 04, 2011 02:10 PM (UOM48)

170 good, as cons, the whole subsidized student loan thing led to the education bubble we have. Sorry, cheap fuckos, pay your own way and get a degree with a chance at making some money.

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 04, 2011 02:10 PM (QxSug)

171 I've got a novel idea!  Work your way through fucking college.

Posted by: mpfs, Weeping, Broke, Tea Party Terrorist at August 04, 2011 02:11 PM (iYbLN)

172

Previous comments about the psychic blog. 

March 24

March 18

I suggest reading the March 24th one first then the March 18 one just so you can see how she likes to mischaracterize a previous comment she makes to make herself sound better.

Posted by: buzzion at August 04, 2011 02:11 PM (oVQFe)

173 If they start charging them interest from day 1 of college, then they are screwed and your kid now won't be able to go to college. 

Some folks I know have kids in state schools charging $40k a year. They're already getting screwed.

Posted by: Methos at August 04, 2011 02:12 PM (sOXQX)

174 I don't want Hillary for President, but if she's got half a functioning brain cell, she should be able to see that this is her last chance to go down in the history books.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at August 04, 2011 02:12 PM (fuw6p)

175 legal insurrection coined this Obama's Catch 2012. His only play at placating the markets is to guarantee he won't run again.

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 04, 2011 02:12 PM (QxSug)

176

Whether Obama believes in the Leftist Dream, he believes more strongly and deeply in his right to use Air Force One as the ultimate private jet and to have his favorite entertainers, sports stars and chefs come running to him at the snap of his fingers. And his wife shares that deep commitment to sharing the perks of office.

Ex-Presidents get treated well, but they don't get the same treatment as when they were in office. Obama will not give up the chance to extend his luxury ride another four years -- not for anything.

Posted by: stuiec at August 04, 2011 05:36 PM (Di3Im)

THIS.  I've said since early 2008 that Obama is severely overrated as an intellect, an ideologue, and almost anything else he has been called by both his supporters and detractors.  He is an ordinary man who simply bullshitted his way all the way to the White House.  He was promised an easy time of it and all the livin' large while Valerie Jarrett and Rahm Emanuel ran the country. 

He was never, ever, expected to do any heavy lifting.  And so he won't.  But with everything crashing down around him, he will not stand down because he has zero prospects for living like a billionaire after he leaves office.  And because he really believes his own bullshit.

Posted by: rockmom at August 04, 2011 02:12 PM (lSyyU)

177 151 Can.Not.Wait. for Carney's presser tomorrow.  He may commit suicide on live television.

*makes note to pick up popcorn tomorrow*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 04, 2011 06:05 PM (UOM4

Lefties are honing their blame for this market disaster.  Idiots like Bob Beckel and Alan Colmes were blaming the Tea Party and Bush.  In Beckel's case, blamed the Tea Party for exactly the opposite effect that he was blaming them for a few days ago.  On idiot on Fox Business actually blamed not continuing to spend more for the sell off.  And they are doing it with a straight face - insisting they are right in their irrationality.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 04, 2011 02:12 PM (jx2j9)

178

I think it's been slowly dawning on Dick that he's a one-termer.  And that's scary.  The crazy gets thick when someone gets the idea that they have nothing else to lose.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 04, 2011 02:13 PM (0D0gY)

179

Damn those "selfish parents" to hell!!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 04, 2011 06:10 PM (UOM4

I was going to answer its blather, but then saw your comment. Much better. Besides, I have no fucking clue what it is babbling.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 04, 2011 02:13 PM (LH6ir)

180 Narcissists don't protect their ego by actively avoiding faliure. They protect it by lashing out after the narcissistic injury has occurred. "It wasn't my fault, it was the Racism, Republicans, Boosh" You're deluded if you think actual performance will prevent him from running. The identity he's crafted for himself is "president.". That is his prime motivation.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Jesusland Liberation Army - Political Terror Brigade at August 04, 2011 02:13 PM (lbo6/)

181 **many working middle class families, like Wisconsin public school teachers will need to regain their lost right to collective bargaining in order to restore the middle class as it was and always should be, a secure, non-performance related, path to earning 6 figures for 9 months of work. without end, amen.*** who's fault is it that college costs have quadrupled in cost versus cost of living? And they have a million six figure diversity bullshit artists employed. education has to face the music/bubble.

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 04, 2011 02:13 PM (QxSug)

182 175 good, as cons, the whole subsidized student loan thing led to the education bubble we have. Sorry, cheap fuckos, pay your own way and get a degree with a chance at making some money.

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 04, 2011 06:10 PM (QxSug)

aren't you lovely.  People planned for education except the fuckers in congress made education unaffordable even if you believe merill lynch and put away the greatest amount you could.  those folks are paying their own way and need loans to pay the rest.

boehner was played, they are "his pell grants".


btw, lots of kids in college and grad school are being informed of this and the reaction is "damn the old people, they did this and we have to pay for it now".  The republicans won't have to push grand ma off the cliff, her family will do it for them at this rate

Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 02:13 PM (k1rwm)

183 good, as cons, the whole subsidized student loan thing led to the education bubble we have. Sorry, cheap fuckos, pay your own way and get a degree with a chance at making some money. Glenn Reynolds had a good op ed about that.. Some dumb chick had a masters in religion and women's studies.. She has a six figure education with-- at best-- a low five figure job.. Good luck financial planning with that.. That's a house sized payment even before she can afford a home. The

Posted by: Dave C at August 04, 2011 02:13 PM (rus4r)

184 Fuck student loans. Let the little bastards pay their own way.

Posted by: sifty t. baggins the Tearorist at August 04, 2011 02:14 PM (ECjvn)

185 oh, they can blame the tea party, but they may find that much like JEF, they're not so persuasive.

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 04, 2011 02:14 PM (QxSug)

186 You're deluded if you think actual performance will prevent him from running. Wise men do not dare to contradict the thinking of the Jeffrian Empire.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2011 02:14 PM (AZGON)

187 We knew this was going to take time because we've got this big, messy, tough democracy," President Obama said at a campaign fundraiser............. ----------------------------------------------------- This "big, messy, tough democracy" wasn't much of a stumbling block when Obama had a super majority in Congress his first 2 years. Oops! My bad! We aren't supposed to remember that! As Rush said a few weeks ago, "I'm Barack Obama! I just got here!"

Posted by: Larry Dickman at August 04, 2011 02:14 PM (4t9J5)

188 Is that a sign that the GOP field is terribly weak?

It is a sign that everyone is waiting for another shoe to drop.  A running shoe.

I have many times said that there is a wellspring of resentment and rage toward the media in this country that no candidate has tapped.  The first one who says "I am going to cut down the Dems, using a jawbone ripped from the corpse of the MSM as my sword!" is going to unleash a firestorm.

Posted by: sherlock at August 04, 2011 02:14 PM (6rLSO)

189 The smartest woman in the world would never be elected, imo.  She has been a joke and a disaster as Secretary of State, presiding over the collapse of America's prestige across the world.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 04, 2011 02:15 PM (jx2j9)

190 the particular blog post is "Why was one of my predictions removed?"

Huh.  You'd think she would have saw it coming.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 04, 2011 02:15 PM (4QeK8)

191 btw, lots of kids in college and grad school are being informed of this and the reaction is "damn the old people, they did this and we have to pay for it now".  The republicans won't have to push grand ma off the cliff, her family will do it for them at this rate


One of you morons want to take this one?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 04, 2011 02:15 PM (UOM48)

192

If they start charging them interest from day 1 of college, then they are screwed and your kid now won't be able to go to college. 

 

Wimmens Studies Majors, awkwardly, hit hardest...

 with latex phalli

Posted by: garrett at August 04, 2011 02:15 PM (/GX8/)

193 "...this is her last chance to go down..."

Posted by: Laura Castellano at August 04, 2011 06:12 PM (fuw6p)

Nah, she's pretty selfish. I have to do all the work.

Posted by: Huma Abedin at August 04, 2011 02:15 PM (LH6ir)

194 btw, lots of kids in college and grad school are being informed of this and the reaction is "damn the old people, they did this and we have to pay for it now". The republicans won't have to push grand ma off the cliff, her family will do it for them at this rate Get off my lawn.

Posted by: fluffy, moderately old person at August 04, 2011 02:15 PM (4Kl5M)

195 Not running for reelection would be admitting that he failed. I'm not sure his ego could take that. On the other hand, if he runs and loses, he and his minions can blame racism. The charges of racism are going to be flying like nothing we've ever seen.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 04, 2011 02:16 PM (eMPxE)

196 Barry O is like the Prince Regent with Daley as his BlackAdder. Except the Prince Regent was much, much sharper.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 04, 2011 02:16 PM (SB0V2)

197

Obama is DONE.  There is NO chance of economic recovery in time for election.  ZERO.  NADA.  ZILCH.

Politically speaking, Republicans have to worry about facing Hillary (if she primaries Obama, she'll win in a f**king landslide).   That's it. 

This stock market crash has destroyed the credibility of middle-of-the-road Republicans who insist on mini-cuts to the budget.  Even Paul Ryan's program looks ridiculously pussyish in comparison to what this country actually has to do to get its house in order.

We are royally f*cked.  Obama is even more so, politically speaking. 

Posted by: stickety at August 04, 2011 02:16 PM (FUDwf)

198 Posted by: fluffy, moderately old person at August 04, 2011 06:15 PM (4Kl5M)


*golf clap*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 04, 2011 02:16 PM (UOM48)

199 A lot of the selfish parents of the "rich kids" didn't save so the rich kids have been using loans...   ...then they are screwed and your kid now won't be able to go to college. 

Wait... What?!  What kind of new crazy is this?  Rich kids using loans?!  Next you'll tell me they use books, and subways, and remote controls too!

The horror.

Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat can't tell if... at August 04, 2011 02:17 PM (4136b)

200 curious at August 04, 2011 06:13 PM (k1rwm)
Oh boo fucking hoo, not everyone can go to college.  Most of the subtards in college right now don't belong there in the first place.
Why the fuck should I subsidize some dickweed who is getting a degree in "Women's Studies?" That'll really contribute to society. Learn a fucking trade for Gawd's sake.  The world needs ditch diggers too.

Posted by: mpfs, Weeping, Broke, Tea Party Terrorist at August 04, 2011 02:17 PM (iYbLN)

201 I have the most delicious fantasy of Barky running again and losing. 

In my fantasy, his aides and secret service are peeling his fingers off the doorway of Air Force One.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 04, 2011 02:18 PM (UOM48)

202 The several dipshits that use the Curiouser tag are both braver and stupider than usual today.

Posted by: sifty t. baggins the Tearorist at August 04, 2011 02:18 PM (ECjvn)

203

@45: "1. Does anyone here no of anyone who was NOT an Obama supporter in 2008 that IS now?

2. Does anyone here know of anyone who supported Obama in 2008 that no longer does?

Add to that that he has completely lost independents and there is no way blacks and young people will voted for him in droves like last time and I believe you are looking at a landslide electoral defeat
."

Anecdote only, but still....

My office building is largely occupied by a major university's computer science department.  Overhead a bunch of their higher-ups (all cracka-ass crackas) talking at lunch two days ago about how Obama was not a success, but that he *had* to be re-elected to that he could succeed.

While waiting to file documents at court, I was standing behind two black women who were *very loudly* complaining that "We're just like Europe now!" "We fought a damn war to kick them out!" "No one has any money!" "No one can get any justice!" "This ain't America anymore!"  and put all the blame squarely on "politicians".  I would hazard a guess that they are no longer staunch Obama supporters.

Still, his white support base in the LA area is becoming even more fanatical, as far as I've seen.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at August 04, 2011 02:18 PM (xy9wk)

204 *golf clap* *changes into pink & green plaid trousers*

Posted by: fluffy, not-so old person at August 04, 2011 02:19 PM (4Kl5M)

205 Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 06:13 PM (k1rwm)

Do you really understand any of what you are saying? Try to learn some economics and then come back here.

Subsidized student loans are simply a subsidy of higher education. When something is subsidized we tend to get more of it, with fewer market driven price controls. And that is exactly what happened, with a concurrent decrease in quality.

Loans are the worst thing that ever happened to American higher education. And please, refute this with your big New York intellect.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 04, 2011 02:19 PM (LH6ir)

206 that "interest-having-to-be-paid-without-delay" thing is for Grad School, not regular undergrad Was always the way it was, certainly it was for me. Otherwise people stay in grad programs over-time to get out of paying any bit of their loans

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 04, 2011 02:19 PM (SB0V2)

207 maybe he'll just decide to party and enjoy his last year and a half as bmoc

Posted by: dave clark at August 04, 2011 02:20 PM (VFYKw)

208 In my fantasy, his aides and secret service are peeling his fingers off the doorway of Air Force One. They had a helluva time prying his forehead off the door sill when he pranged it trying to enter AF1.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2011 02:20 PM (AZGON)

209 What am ik supposed to do with nmy shadenboner if I can't afford lube?

Posted by: Mr Pink at August 04, 2011 02:20 PM (X3gob)

210

Hmmmm, does the Dow dropping 500 points in one day count as a Tragedy happening betwee July and September?  Because if it does then I'm a fucking psychic!  I predicted a tragedy happening within that window back in March!

Check me out. Psychic!  Right here baby!

Posted by: buzzion at August 04, 2011 02:20 PM (oVQFe)

211

Obama is DONE.  There is NO chance of economic recovery in time for election.  ZERO.  NADA.  ZILCH.

Politically speaking, Republicans have to worry about facing Hillary (if she primaries Obama, she'll win in a f**king landslide).   That's it. 

Posted by: stickety

Obama is done but there is not a chance Shrillery bails now. She wouldn't have any way of differentiating herself from his administration. She was a part of it.

"Vote for me, I'll only helped him for 3 years!" ?

As all the cool kids say, Derp.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 04, 2011 02:20 PM (DEcmU)

212 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 04, 2011 06:19 PM (LH6ir)

I disagree.  My mom made one of the best law schools in the country.  At he time she didn't qualify for student aid and they told her there were no loans.  she didn't go and that is a shame.  I don't want to see that happen again to my generation. 

Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 02:21 PM (k1rwm)

213

This line from the Politico article jumped out at me:

No one assumes employment, growth or housing prices to pick up much, if at all — something Obama is essentially powerless to change.

Is the Left really going to argue that Presidents are powerless to change the course of the economy?   Really?   After nearly eighty years of Keynesian intervention as the modus operandi of the Democratic Party?

Besides, there's lots Obama could do to change employment, growth and housing prices.   He could repeal Obamacare, he could rein in his regulators, he could make the Bush tax cuts permanent, he could make a serious effort to reform entitlements as a way of cutting the deficit going forward, etc., etc.   He won't do any of this, but that doesn't mean that he's "powerless" to do so.   What he's "powerless" to do is make false things true... he's "powerless" to make government-run health care, hyper-regulation, higher taxes, and runaway entitlements a successful way to spur a modern economy.   He's an awfully Orwellian figure -- our most "black is white" and "war is peace" President ever -- but he can't really make black white, or war peace, and he can't make left-wing economics work.  

Posted by: The Regular Guy at August 04, 2011 02:21 PM (qHCyt)

214 I got my degree in womens studies from the school of hard knocks.  I got it in spades.  My wife and girls are putting me through the phd program.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 04, 2011 02:21 PM (4QeK8)

215 "One area Politico discusses (apart from the obvious ones -- the horrific economy, the $7 trillion in new debt he'll have added) is Obama's weak legislative legacy."

Also bad: his strong, though narrowly-focused, Executive policy which is to say "regulatory." Since he was Legislatively impotent (except for Obamacare which is a highly dubious "win"), his circumvention of the People's voice has not won him favor. And to business it's been a disaster. Unmitigated, nation-breaking disaster.

While the Keynesian spending has been devastating, it's a continuation of the government status quo. IOW something of a shared fault even as he accelerated it. What's his and all his and is the, ahem, elephant in the room and almost never discussed is this administration's heavy hand of regulation. From banks to cars to oil to energy to education to food... you name it - everything spells "Cass Sunstein" and nudge dynamics. These nanny-statists are waging war though circuitously.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 04, 2011 02:22 PM (r4t7/)

216 I disagree.  My mom made one of the best law schools in the country.  At he time she didn't qualify for student aid and they told her there were no loans.  she didn't go and that is a shame.  I don't want to see that happen again to my generation. 

Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 06:21 PM (k1rwm)



Here we go.........wa, wa, wa..

Every hear of working your way through school???

Posted by: mpfs, Weeping, Broke, Tea Party Terrorist at August 04, 2011 02:22 PM (iYbLN)

217

@62: "Thats the thing about narcicissm. The county could halfway be glowing due to a Iranian nuclear attack with the Dow hovering around 900 and a Mexican invasion imminent and Barry would still run. Because hes the most awsome person ever, THE ONE (tm), a legend (in his own mind) and who is he to deny us himself?

Hey, If I hadn't been president, we'd all be speaking Farsi, the Dow would be at 90, and there'd be a Taco Bell on every corner
."

My advisors have failed Me.  My generals have failed Me! The German American people have failed Me!  I should have followed Stalin and had every one of you traitorous motherfuckers shot!

Posted by: Prezidizzle Obizzle in the First Bunker at August 04, 2011 02:22 PM (xy9wk)

218 Drooling lefty idiots are hiding in the educational system from age 5 to age 65 and we are paying for it.

Cut all grants and loans to everything but hard sciences and engineering.
Fuck your Doctorate in Flower Arrangement.

Posted by: sifty t. baggins the Tearorist at August 04, 2011 02:22 PM (ECjvn)

219 what 25% of students are in the unskilled sector. Are we being asked to subsidize what is essentially a four year bender? Didn't insty point out that 42% of grades are now "A"s? Isn't cheating rampant. Where's the kids' end of the bargain, that they study hard and learn something. Look, education doesn't have to be expensive, and in fact, until cheap student loans, it was inexpensive.

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 04, 2011 02:22 PM (QxSug)

220 BO is going to get his second term, "by hook or by crook". (that is one of my grand ma's coolest phrases) His supporters are so confident it is wholly frightening.

Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 02:23 PM (k1rwm)

221 The first one who says "I am going to cut down the Dems, using a jawbone ripped from the corpse of the MSM as my sword!" is going to unleash a firestorm.

"I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!"

-- Howard Beale

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at August 04, 2011 02:23 PM (1rHeD)

222 The charges of racism are going to be flying like nothing we've ever seen.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 04, 2011 06:16 PM (eMPxE)

 

Just wait.  They'll use the same spew right before election day that they did in the last one:  If Obama isn't elected, there'll be massive race riots in cities all over the nation.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 04, 2011 02:23 PM (0D0gY)

223 I disagree. My mom made one of the best law schools in the country. At he time she didn't qualify for student aid and they told her there were no loans. she didn't go and that is a shame. I don't want to see that happen again to my generation. Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 06:21 PM (k1rwm) check it out, there are enough lawyers. Who cares if there's one less.

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 04, 2011 02:23 PM (QxSug)

224
I disagree.  My mom made one of the best law schools in the country.  At he time she didn't qualify for student aid and they told her there were no loans.  she didn't go and that is a shame.  I don't want to see that happen again to my generation. 

Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 06:21 PM (k1rwm)


Is she a selfish, cranky old person too?  Because she's probably my age, or close. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 04, 2011 02:24 PM (UOM48)

225 curious,

Four words....Lay Off The Hash.

Posted by: mpfs, Weeping, Broke, Tea Party Terrorist at August 04, 2011 02:24 PM (iYbLN)

226 "Still, his white support base in the LA area is becoming even more fanatical, as far as I've seen." 2 words: Matt Damon Yeah, actors aren't known for their intellect.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 04, 2011 02:25 PM (eMPxE)

227 I don't want to see that happen again to my generation. 

Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 06:21 PM (k1rwm)


Your act is tired. Your audience is non-existent. Your delivery is poor. Your timing is awful. Your point is invalid.

Posted by: sifty t. baggins the Tearorist at August 04, 2011 02:25 PM (ECjvn)

228

Student loans are one of the big three of government subsized boondoggles. THe other two are health care and housing. The latter has crashed, and the other two soon while.

    Bed-wetting do-gooders decide that the poor and disadvantaged need something (education, housing, medical care) and start throwing ridiculous amounts of money at it. That bids the price up beyond reason.

     And crooks and scam artists always take advantage of the do-gooder's naivete and make a killing off their blind throwing of money at these things.

Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at August 04, 2011 02:25 PM (VVB18)

229 If Dick loses in 2012, the videos of an outraged Hitler on youtube will be a wonder to behold.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2011 02:25 PM (AZGON)

230 I disagree.  My mom made one of the best law schools in the country.  At he time she didn't qualify for student aid and they told her there were no loans.  she didn't go and that is a shame.  I don't want to see that happen again to my generation. 

Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 06:21 PM (k1rwm)

It's your mom's fault for not being good enough to get the full ride.

Your generation will learn quickly that education isn't a basic human right.

Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat can't tell if... at August 04, 2011 02:26 PM (4136b)

231 Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 06:21 PM (k1rwm)

Ah yes. Anecdotal evidence. Perfect.

Or, your study has an "n" of 1. Which means that it is invalid.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 04, 2011 02:26 PM (LH6ir)

232  have many times said that there is a wellspring of resentment and rage toward the media in this country that no candidate has tapped. The first one who says "I am going to cut down the Dems, using a jawbone ripped from the corpse of the MSM as my sword!" is going to unleash a firestorm.

Posted by: sherlock at August 04, 2011 06:14 PM (6rLSO)

Actually, the first candidate who start talking about blowing up the Big Government, Big Bank, Big Corporation model entirely and getting back to Smaller Everything, with More Freedom, will win in a landslide.  This isn't about populism, either, it's about WHAT WORKS. 

Everyone in America recently has seen what works.  What works is blowing up the model.  Amazon.com.  The iPhone.  Google.  Things that give poeple CHOICE, and FREEDOM from bureaucratic old models.  Things that work FAST and SIMPLY.  But our government is still creaking along on a 1950 platform - slow, complicated, never adjusting to new preferences or realities.  And Barack Obama is that platform's biggest champion.  This is why he should get shellacked next year, IF the Republicans can find a candidate with the vision to express it.

Posted by: rockmom at August 04, 2011 02:26 PM (lSyyU)

233 I don't want to see that happen again to my generation.


From what I can tell just from your posts your "generation" doesn't do shit and doesn't know shit from shinola. 

Posted by: mpfs, Weeping, Broke, Tea Party Terrorist at August 04, 2011 02:26 PM (iYbLN)

234 229 I disagree. My mom made one of the best law schools in the country. At he time she didn't qualify for student aid and they told her there were no loans. she didn't go and that is a shame. I don't want to see that happen again to my generation.
Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 06:21 PM (k1rwm)

check it out, there are enough lawyers. Who cares if there's one less.

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 04, 2011 06:23 PM (QxSug)

Not as if mommy dearest is hurting anyways.  Marrying someone, popping out something so insanely stupid its breathtaking, and getting to live in some rich upperclass New York neighborhood.  Yeah boo-hoo to your mommy.

Posted by: buzzion at August 04, 2011 02:26 PM (oVQFe)

235 235 If Dick loses in 2012, the videos of an outraged Hitler on youtube will be a wonder to behold.

Thing of beauty, that would be.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 04, 2011 02:26 PM (UOM48)

236 From Obama's perspective, in what way is he a failure? Obamacare didn't have to work or make sense or be popular. It just had to make government control of healthcare inevitable. If he can somehow pull off re-election, it will be inevitable, and even if he can't I would place the odds that the GOP has the fortitude to rip it out at the roots to be very low indeed. Dodd-Frank, same thing for banking and finance. All the additional regulation? Who's going to undo that? I'm sure he's quite pleased with his performance because his metrics are not GDP growth or unemployment or inflation.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at August 04, 2011 02:26 PM (7EV/g)

237 Curious....

Why has the price of higher education skyrocketed?

Don't hurt yourself.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 04, 2011 02:26 PM (7utQ2)

238

@106: "Where can they go from here?"

We will join The Obamessiah in preaching RaHoWa against you cracka-ass crackas!

Posted by: The Media at August 04, 2011 02:27 PM (xy9wk)

239 The racism charge is going to get used, and it likely will turn out blacks, leftists and suggestible "moderates".  There is reason to hope it won't be as effective among true swing voters and blue dog democrats though.

He is in a weak position.  My biggest point of pessimism is about the temptation of class warfare.  In some cases the worse things get, the better you do by promising to stick it to the rich, even when that would actually make things worse.  Expect that to be a major issue for Obama.  And it will be one with major negative consequences for the country if he does win.  Hopefully there are still enough producers and would-be producers voting to turn him out.

Posted by: Dave R. at August 04, 2011 02:27 PM (eKLWV)

240

"A top Democratic strategist who is close to the White House said that Obama’s first-term record “is going to be, on balance, probably a liability” for his reelection, partly “because of the failure to sell and explain the things that they were doing.”

Why aren't the damn dogs eating the dog food?  We've got snappy labels, generous coupons, an extensive media blitz, consumer focus group testing out the wazoo, yet the dogs won't eat it.  What gives?

Posted by: Top. Men. in the Whitehouse at August 04, 2011 02:27 PM (4q5tP)

241 243 Curious....

Why has the price of higher education skyrocketed?

Don't hurt yourself.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 04, 2011 06:26 PM (7utQ2)

the teacher's union....

Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 02:28 PM (k1rwm)

242 I disagree.  My mom made one of the best law schools in the country.  At he time she didn't qualify for student aid and they told her there were no loans.  she didn't go and that is a shame.  I don't want to see that happen again to my generation. 

Oh, I agree.  Far better would be to make sure everyone can get an advanced degree and go $150k in debt even though there are no jobs for these people.  And the only people I can get to work on my roof are illegal aliens.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 04, 2011 02:28 PM (XIXhw)

243 Curious is managing to effectively troll today.

Despite all the "blocked people" her tech friend blocked on her computer.

Posted by: sifty t. baggins the Tearorist at August 04, 2011 02:28 PM (ECjvn)

244 When is the next debate anyways?  I've heard Fox advertise it twice but I never hear or see them advertise when it occurs?

Posted by: buzzion at August 04, 2011 02:29 PM (oVQFe)

245 Oh Circa, the stupid is strong with "its" answer.

Posted by: mpfs, Weeping, Broke, Tea Party Terrorist at August 04, 2011 02:29 PM (iYbLN)

246 Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 04, 2011 06:26 PM (7utQ2)

I tried to explain it to her. I even used small words. She ignored it.

Troll, sock or just profoundly, mind-numbingly stupid?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 04, 2011 02:29 PM (LH6ir)

247 The same reason why democrats turned affordable housing into a housing bubble, affordable not in terms of price but in terms of how much money they'll shovel in to the market. That reminds me, I need to get my application papers into the USDA for my settlement check.

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 04, 2011 02:29 PM (QxSug)

248 So you are pretty ugly stupid.

fify, buzzion

Posted by: Y-not at August 04, 2011 02:29 PM (5H6zj)

249 250 When is the next debate anyways?  I've heard Fox advertise it twice but I never hear or see them advertise when it occurs?

I don't know, but I hope Perry is in.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 04, 2011 02:29 PM (UOM48)

250 Not as if mommy dearest is hurting anyways. Marrying someone, popping out something so insanely stupid its breathtaking, and getting to live in some rich upperclass New York neighborhood. Yeah boo-hoo to your mommy.** he's going to walk away from the experience with all his smug intact, I am sure. The liberal pathology prevents actual learning.

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 04, 2011 02:31 PM (QxSug)

251 Who wants to take bets which critters running for re-election will want Barky campaigning with them this time around?

Posted by: mpfs, Weeping, Broke, Tea Party Terrorist at August 04, 2011 02:31 PM (iYbLN)

252 Ohio Dan's wet dream for 2012. Obama and the Dems continue to screw up the economy so bad they are swept aside like Pharoah and his army.  True conservatives are elected to the House, Senate and Presidency.  The presidents national healthcare program is swept down the crapper of history.  Investigations into the Democrats relationship with Unions, Soros and Foreign entities brings the cancers preying on our country to justice. We secure our borders, put the country on a road to fiscal health including a balanced budget amendment.  Our governments at city, county, state and federal governments realize they are servants to the people.  Anyone think that will ever happen?

Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 04, 2011 02:32 PM (YWk21)

253 Just think, if curious mom became a lawyer cunt, he'd have never been born because she'd be working 90 hour weeks and too much of an entitled bitch to actually date curious' dad.

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 04, 2011 02:32 PM (QxSug)

254

Yes, keep screaming in my face that I am an inbred, racist, terroristic asshole, and I'll be sure to vote for your guy!

I can't wait for the bumper sticker line:  Picture of Obama, with the words:  "Vote for Il Douche, or You're a Fucking Racist Asshole!"

Posted by: Sharkman at August 04, 2011 02:32 PM (wMsKw)

255 260
We can only dream.

Posted by: mpfs, Weeping, Broke, Tea Party Terrorist at August 04, 2011 02:33 PM (iYbLN)

256 Oh and  Uck Foobama!

Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 04, 2011 02:33 PM (YWk21)

257 Yeah, the beginnings of disillusionment with this guy are almost like the public voted

"Yes, I would very much like a pony" and now are saying

"WTF? I have to pay for feed and tack? I have to clean out it's stall? WTF? You never told me that. The pony in the picture was really pretty, but this one poops a lot, and is kinda stupid. Please take it away."

Posted by: Less at August 04, 2011 02:34 PM (PGXeZ)

258 "I disagree. My mom made one of the best law schools in the country. At he time she didn't qualify for student aid and they told her there were no loans. she didn't go and that is a shame. I don't want to see that happen again to my generation." That's okay, they can go to law school during the day and work nights. That's what people of my parents' generation did, before the dems came along and convinced people that they shouldn't have to go without and work hard for what they want.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 04, 2011 02:35 PM (eMPxE)

259 Racism? He's half white, for Pete's sake. Doesn't anyone remember that???? Or are Obama fans totally nuts???? Sorry, I know the answer to that...

Posted by: chai at August 04, 2011 02:35 PM (Q5eIV)

260 I have the most delicious fantasy of Barky running again and losing. 

In my fantasy, his aides and secret service are peeling his fingers off the doorway of Air Force One.

Think he'll pry all the Os off the keyboards in the WH?

Posted by: Retread at August 04, 2011 02:35 PM (BO5ap)

261 Bless your heart, curious.  All of us know you're not a very bright bulb and we tell you that day after day, but you keep right on hangin' in.  You are persistant.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 04, 2011 02:36 PM (0D0gY)

262 I disagree.  My mom made one of the best law schools in the country.  At he time she didn't qualify for student aid and they told her there were no loans.  she didn't go and that is a shame.  I don't want to see that happen again to my generation. 

Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 06:21 PM (k1rwm)

Sure she did. Was admitted to a top law school and just didn't go. No loans, so no way to figure out a way to pay for it, or find a man to marry, have him work and support her while she attended, and then she could find a sweet job with a great law firm because she is a graduate from a top law school. Uh-huh. She just didn't go. Uncle Sugar wasn't there to help her out and make everything all nice and easy and fair, so she had to do something else with her life.

Listen here. My mom was plenty bright enough to attend college too, but she didn't. Her dad died when she was 13, and she had 4 younger siblings. She didn't fucking cry about what-ifs. She got working, and worked hard. Met a man and married him, and together they have enjoyed a successful life and established an educational trust that goes mainly towards scholarships for women to attend college.

People like you make me fucking suck. Life didn't work out exactly for my family. Boo hoo hoo. You fucking go through paying off large loans just to operate your business during the Carter years and get back to me about fucking college expenses back in the day.

Posted by: Lord Humungus Wasteland Jihadi at August 04, 2011 02:36 PM (Yv6gq)

263 Here's my boner-inducing vision of the 2012 election:

Barack's popularity continues to fall. George Soros decides he needs a new sockpuppet and switches his support to Hillary. The primary fight is hard and brutal but ultimately money talks and bullshit walks. Her Hillariness is the nominee.

Barack then decides to run on the Hope And Change Party ticket.

The Democrats enter the election season divided, and with all their money spent already. Neither Barack nor Hillary polls more than 20 percent, and the new President Chris Christie appoints Rudy Giuliani as Attorney General with instructions to dig up everything those evil corrupt liberal motherfuckers have been burying since 2008, nail it to their fucking skulls, and leave them dangling from the flagpole for the world to spit at.

Posted by: Trimegistus at August 04, 2011 02:37 PM (tpyRR)

264 7 Stuiec, I kinda agree with your thinking. Bill Clinton has 100 million reasons to disagree. The JEF has the world's greatest golden parachute. He's got hundred thousand dollar talks to give to business conventions. He's got no show corporation board seats waiting. Clinton was a pauper, now he lives like a king, and now he can get his trim out of the public eye. If I were Obama, I'd say Fuck it. I'm gonna get me some cash money now while I can.

Posted by: shecky at August 04, 2011 02:37 PM (r3K3d)

265 I don't know why I bother trying to explain basic economics to someone who tries to lead us to psychic websites.

But...what would happen if everyone could get unlimited loans for things like womyn's studies doctorates and societal facilitator master's degrees?  Answer?  Look around.  Enough.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 04, 2011 02:38 PM (7utQ2)

266   240 229 I disagree. My mom made one of the best law schools in the country. At he time she didn't qualify for student aid and they told her there were no loans. she didn't go and that is a shame. I don't want to see that happen again to my generation.
Posted by: curious at August 04, 2011 06:21 PM (k1rwm)

She lied to you. There have always been loans.

Posted by: dagny at August 04, 2011 02:40 PM (5NVOF)

267 In some cases the worse things get, the better you do by promising to stick it to the rich, even when that would actually make things worse.  Expect that to be a major issue for Obama.

He'd be a fool to go that route. The class-warfare well is dry.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at August 04, 2011 02:41 PM (1rHeD)

268

Re: Student loans.

As stated above, the cuts only apply to grad students, who will have about 20% of the loan that had the interest being paid by the government while in school (the other 80% was always on the student), no longer being paid by the government.  The total amount of money an individual can borrow is not changed, it just means the interest starts accruing a little faster.

Second, without student loans only rich kids could become doctors or lawyers, and only people who work for companies with generous tuition payment plans could become PhDs.  I much prefer the half meritocracy, half legacy system we have now compared to an all-legacy system for professionals.

And yes, I have (or had) a vested interest in these loans.  I'll be the first to agree that not everyone needs higher education, but money shouldn't be what determines who gets to practice law or medicine.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 04, 2011 02:42 PM (SnXrr)

269 273 I don't know why I bother trying to explain basic economics to someone who tries to lead us to psychic websites.

But...what would happen if everyone could get unlimited loans for things like womyn's studies doctorates and societal facilitator master's degrees? Answer? Look around. Enough.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 04, 2011 06:38 PM (7utQ2)

Come on don't blame the stupid little troll.  She can't ask her friends the correct answer since they're all liberals.  And talk radio isn't talking about higher education right now, so that eliminates all of her critical thinking abilities.  So she's just left with her lists of word association for people pretending to be conservative.  So she hears education costs and so according to her cheat sheet that means its the fault of Teacher's Unions.  Nevermind that she obviously doesn't understand the differences between higher education and K-12.

Posted by: buzzion at August 04, 2011 02:43 PM (oVQFe)

270 I'm sitting here smiling, imagining the scene right now in Crawford,TX.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2011 02:43 PM (Bs3Ne)

271 His supporters are so confident it is wholly frightening.

You said the same thing before the 2010 elections. How'd that work out for you, you fucking imbecile?

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 04, 2011 02:44 PM (P57Q4)

272

She lied to you. There have always been loans.

Posted by: dagny at August 04, 2011 06:40 PM (5NVOF)

I doubt her mom lied to her.  She's probably making it up on the spot.  Like she did with her claims about mommy telling her to just take the mandatory HPV shot.... That they had in New York.

Posted by: buzzion at August 04, 2011 02:44 PM (oVQFe)

273

Obama is not LBJ, and Michelle is not Lady Bird.  The O's live to be worshipped and they need to be America's king & queen for that to happen.

Obama will be the nominee in 2012, and anybody in his own party who opposes him will be labeled the R word.

 

Posted by: Boots at August 04, 2011 02:44 PM (neKzn)

274

Here's the scenario that freaks me out. You get student loans if you're one of the left's predetermined under classes. If not, you don't. You really want every doctor being affirmative action??? Every lawyer? Every dentist (shudder)?

I may have to advise my sons to marry non-whites so that their children qualify for the govt student loans.

Posted by: dagny at August 04, 2011 02:45 PM (5NVOF)

275

Second, without student loans only rich kids could become doctors or lawyers, and only people who work for companies with generous tuition payment plans could become PhDs. 

 

The latter part is not true. Grad students in the hard sciences are paid as teaching and/or research assistants. Not paid well, mind you, but paid.

It's PhD candidates in the bullshit departments who have to pony up.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2011 02:47 PM (Bs3Ne)

276 sure sure, Ccrank, but there are also scholarships and state schools. Too bad small market law schools and state schools have experienced tuition creep where they're rivaling Ivy League costs. Much as I would support mandator attrition in government jobs, like forcing union thugs teachers to fire their bottom 5% every year, school loans should have some foundation in reality, like loans based on SAT scores and/or perceived difficulty in subject matter, like electrical engineer>civil engineer>business major>western based literature>>>>> feminist scream gargling degrees.

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 04, 2011 02:48 PM (QxSug)

277 If someone is concerned about the availability of funding for higher education, that person should consider making charitable contributions to an institution of higher education. 

I really have a hard time getting worked up about the government, particularly the federal government, reducing the money it pours into student loans. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 04, 2011 02:49 PM (5H6zj)

278

I tell young people today not to go to college.  I recommend tech schools or jobs that will teach a viable skill like cabinet making, heavy equipment operator or mechanic.  A college degree is becoming passe in the job market. 

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 04, 2011 02:51 PM (0D0gY)

279 I do think it is delicious that the kool aid drinking cultist zombies that support the One are blaming his policy and legislative failures on his inability to communicate. As with everything else, they fail to appreciate the hypocrisy and the irony of thier meme. 

Posted by: Anabolic State at August 04, 2011 02:51 PM (e1pl5)

280 69 His place in history will likely be that he was the president who finally killed Keynesian Economics once and for all.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at August 04, 2011 05:47 PM (uVlA4)

Yo. Pretty sure we should own that one.

Posted by: Greece at August 04, 2011 05:49 PM (NCw5u)

Pikers.

Posted by: North Korea at August 04, 2011 02:52 PM (9gvjb)

281 THe higher education bubble needs to crash. The demand curve, fueled by the subsidized loans is way out of whack. Only way to fix it is to pull the plug and let the true price be discovered (hint, it will be a lot lower than it is now). Then you can worry about fixing higher education.

Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at August 04, 2011 02:54 PM (VVB18)

282

Oh, you guys wanted your hope and change now?

Posted by: Presidick Wee Wee at August 04, 2011 02:54 PM (I1w2T)

283 If Zero does in fact lose his re-election bid, Boehner should have him served with Articles of Impeachment that very night. We can deal with 2 1/2 of the drooling idiot Biden as a lame duck rather than have Zero scorch the earth on his way out.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at August 04, 2011 02:55 PM (YmPwQ)

284 One week to Iowa debate.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 04, 2011 02:56 PM (0D0gY)

285 The funny thing about the debt ceiling debate was that it completely threw off president obama's reelection strategy. 2011 was supposed to be the year he paid back his base via don't as don't tell, NCLB with the unions and the EPA with the environmentalists. Once the base got fired up in 2011, he was going to go to the center in 2012 and sweep up the independents. I guess that plan has now backfired.

Posted by: Jim at August 04, 2011 02:57 PM (FHnWX)

286 Many of us saw this coming 2 years ago, and last year, and now. Obama bet the farm on an economic theory that was discredited 30 years ago. It was obvious his policies would fail, and it was obvious the economy would be weak for 2012. Think back. Obama takes office, and the market falls severely. Then the FED goes buck wild and throws god only knows how much money around, and the market takes off. That was nice for investors, but good paying jobs never came along for the ride. In fact, almost no jobs came at all. Now the sugar rush is over for the market as the last 10 sessions show. People are now resigned to no job creation for the next 18 months, and perhaps even another recession. Whether it is technically a recession or not is irrelevant. The economy is screwed beyond belief because our debt is out of control, our regulations are out of control, our spending is out of control, and we have an insane energy policy. Until those things are corrected, this is the "new normal" we will have in America. We know that this won't happen until Obama is gone. Lets just make sure we put the right person in to replace him! He will be running with an unemployment rate above 8% guaranteed and could be much worse. Palin, Perry, Romney, Pawlenty all beat Obama. I don't give a damn what the polls say today. I have a preference, and that is Palin but the point is Obama is done unless we royally screw up.

Posted by: Dan at August 04, 2011 02:59 PM (mXBxH)

287 Trimegistus @ 271,  Wow!  That actually gives me a woody.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 04, 2011 03:06 PM (YWk21)

288 Stop teasing me with headlines like this!

Posted by: logprof at August 04, 2011 03:10 PM (BP6Z1)

289 Cough, Mark Warner/Harold Ford Jr. Cough - somebody should run the numbers.

Posted by: Jean at August 04, 2011 03:19 PM (7P7Ij)

290 271 Here's my boner-inducing vision of the 2012 election:

...

The Democrats enter the election season divided, and with all their money spent already. Neither Barack nor Hillary polls more than 20 percent, and the new President Chris Christie Perry appoints Rudy Giuliani as Attorney General with instructions to dig up everything those evil corrupt liberal motherfuckers have been burying since 2008, nail it to their fucking skulls, and leave them dangling from the flagpole for the world to spit at.
FIFY. And let me add:

The Interior Dept. becomes the Department of Drill, Baby, Drill and is headed by Ms. Palin.
Defense will be headed by Allen West.
Treasury will be run by Thomas Sowell.
HHS is under the management of .
DHS is now run by the ATF agent who was in Mexico City during F&F.
Ag will focus on game management and hunting under Ted Nugent.
State is lead by John Bolton.
DOT will focus on our needs under Carroll Shelby.

Education, Energy, Commerce, Labor and HUD are combined into The Department of Waste under Ron Paul!!!11!

Posted by: Ducatisti at August 04, 2011 03:23 PM (KYE7u)

291 Just wait.  They'll use the same spew right before election day that they did in the last one:  If Obama isn't elected, there'll be massive race riots in cities all over the nation.

Looks like I need to go shopping for an AA12 semi-auto shotgun like the one that FPS Russian was demonstrating the other day.

When you absolutely, positively have to take down a group of rampaging people in a short period of time, accept no substitutes.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 04, 2011 03:23 PM (b8JnP)

292 He won't run.  Possibly because of health reasons, or family, but he won't run.  He will be offered a better job-maybe UN or president of Kenya, but he won't run.  It will not be his choice, however.  The DNC will decide for him.

Posted by: chillin the most at August 04, 2011 03:26 PM (6IV8T)

293 and for Defense and NSA we find medically retired, leg NCOs who have lost a limb killing Muslims and let them wreck havoc abroad with anyone who f--- with us and daisy cutter the flag ranks and waste ridden major programs.

Posted by: Jean at August 04, 2011 03:28 PM (7P7Ij)

294 Obama will step down, and endorse an even better-looking, cool black guy, Van Jones.

See, with Van Jones in charge, how could the Chinese not love us?

Posted by: K~Bob at August 04, 2011 04:12 PM (hsyHs)

295 O-bah-muhh iz two smirt two bee Prezident. He shood beecum Sekritary Jenrul uv teh Yoonited Nayshuns.

Posted by: Typical Obama Voter at August 04, 2011 04:14 PM (+9O6v)

296 What he's "powerless" to do is make false things true... he's "powerless" to make government-run health care, hyper-regulation, higher taxes, and runaway entitlements a successful way to spur a modern economy.   He's an awfully Orwellian figure -- our most "black is white" and "war is peace" President ever -- but he can't really make black white, or war peace, and he can't make left-wing economics work. 
Posted by: The Regular Guy

I like this new guy.  Another quality comment.

Posted by: toby928™ at August 04, 2011 04:32 PM (GTbGH)

297 Miracles happen every 2,00 years...We are due...BIG TIME with this Studdering Cluster-Fuck !!!!!!!

Posted by: Lewis Stien at August 04, 2011 04:35 PM (qXGZK)

298 So how do we start a "resign" whisper campaign? Those always seem to start with ease around members of Congress and soon this person or that is calling for resignations.

That's a total pudding dream, I know but it would be awesome

Posted by: Arcade Hero at August 04, 2011 04:38 PM (mmHDH)

299 302 Just wait.  They'll use the same spew right before election day that they did in the last one:  If Obama isn't elected, there'll be massive race riots in cities all over the nation.

Looks like I need to go shopping for an AA12 semi-auto shotgun like the one that FPS Russian was demonstrating the other day.

When you absolutely, positively have to take down a group of rampaging people in a short period of time, accept no substitutes.

You need to go on down to Red Jacket Firearms and have them set you up with a nice Saiga 12. I have one. You should have one too. Nice gun. My Father In Law asked me what the heck I needed one of them for. I told him ending arguments. He conceded the point.


Posted by: Lord Humungus Wasteland Jihadi at August 04, 2011 04:44 PM (Yv6gq)

300 128 hey where is the student loan person?   Heard the news?  They are caping loans and they are no longer subsidized and they are charging interest.

thanks mr. boehner.


What the fuck business does the federal government have doling out student loans?
Cut them out of the picture and the cost of education will go down.  $80-$100 K for a useless sociology degree subsidized by the government?

We need more plumbers, and mechanics fewer sociologists any way.

Posted by: jrg at August 04, 2011 05:44 PM (BkQvr)

301 I feel sorry for Jimmy Carter. He had been a notable president but now Obama has left him on the scrap heap of history.

A moment of silence as Obama blows by him with little respect.

Posted by: NortonPete at August 04, 2011 05:48 PM (8zxoH)

302

  He's spent his entire career in pursuit of the job he now has.  More importantly, I don't think he thinks he can lose.  I mean, he never has before.
****************

Barry has lost before, but you didn't hear about it in 2008 because the MSM was too busy pushing the myth of his so-called brilliance.  Barry ran for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives and lost, before he won the U.S. Senate seat in Illinois (that Senate race was the race in which he got the other Dim challengers knocked off the ballot, and then managed to get his Repub. opponent's sealed divorce records made public).  

The media's efforts to cast Barry as a genius politician and the most gifted orator since Abe Lincoln wouldn't have been quite so persuasive if the general public knew that Barry had not been able to convince a mainly black Congressional district in Chicago to elect him as their representative, or that he only won his Senate seat using loopholes and trickery to eliminate/disadvantage his opponents.

Posted by: AZC at August 04, 2011 06:09 PM (HFscI)

303 Laughing hard at the idea that Obama is doomed when the new CBS poll out today has his approval at 48% and people still blame Bush for the horrific economy and Obama basically gets a free pass from the public.  Nothing that happens will affect his numbers.

Posted by: Greg at August 04, 2011 06:18 PM (WJ0tA)

304 Fantastic Read! Looking forward to more! Bookmarked the site and will be back again!

Posted by: Jimmy Choo at August 04, 2011 07:18 PM (ms78E)

305 Will he run again?
Remember that at some point,
you've played enough golf.

Posted by: Haiku_John at August 04, 2011 08:14 PM (1UGPX)

306 The "Great Communicator" is such a great salesman, that he couldln't sell a glass of icewater to a thirsty man in the middle of the Sahara Desert at high noon in July.   Great Salesman my ass.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at August 04, 2011 08:19 PM (3ESDJ)

307

Laughing hard at the idea that Obama is doomed when the new CBS poll out today has his approval at 48% and people still blame Bush for the horrific economy and Obama basically gets a free pass from the public.

Who's this "Bush?"

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2011 08:31 PM (Bs3Ne)

308

American Express just called.

Your Race Card is overdrawn.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at August 05, 2011 06:56 AM (KVi4X)

309

Have to concur with Ace statement that he's been peddling crazy predictions for awhile.  One more motivation speech for Romney/RINO and I'll vote for Obama.

 

But the idea that Obama won't run is laughable.  He can't bear the idea that he makes Carter look like a god.  That he makes Clinton look like Jesus.  That he makes Nixon look like a saint.

 

Obama may win the Star Wars Bar States like California and NY but he's going to lose deep blue states like Pennsylvania and Michigan.  He is toast.

Posted by: Molon Labe at August 05, 2011 08:24 AM (g5MrG)

310 I found that, compared with my age group I actually get the waste of soil.

Posted by: New Puma YoYo at August 10, 2011 12:05 AM (r5X7Y)

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