1 CHANGE, THANK FOR SCOAMF.

Any SCOAMF signs seen at political event yet?

2 I don't know if President Theoretical Understanding Only has the grit for that.

He doesn't even have a theoretical understanding.  A theory usually has a coherent set of facts, however incomplete, to support it.  He's too lazy for that.

3 It's the thread of the living dead!

4 You cleary don't understand Obama's long-term foreign policy strategy. Actually, neither do I. Obama might not either.

5 So, umm, remember that little discussion about whether Obama had it figured out, "winning" in Libya by doing it on the cheap and on the sly? Yeah, by not being a part of the thing, really, we don't get to have any say about what goes on after. I know that the US public wouldn't stand for a ground invasion, and we really shouldn't do it anyway, but this isn't going to play well for Obama. Kinda sorta just like Egyot.

6
I'm thinking less and less he wants a second term. Look at the foreign policy mess he'll inherit from his predecessor.

7 Why scott walker will be president and not rubio in 2020. Rubio obviously fucked himself on his foreign policy with this libya shit

8 4 You cleary don't understand Obama's long-term foreign policy strategy. Actually, neither do I. Obama might not either.

Here's Obama's long-term foreign policy strategy - anything that might further out foreign policy interest, he will do the opposite of it.  These will be his "Forget Me Nots" post-2012 election. 

9

The modern prog left are thilled to have creepy radical Islamics take over whole nations.

10 Any SCOAMF signs seen at political event yet?

I asked the good folks at the Reagan Library yesterday about banners and signs. They are strongly discouraging any gatherings or protests.
All gatherings will be kept way back out of camera and outside the facility.
He said they are trying very hard to keep everything classy and keep out the Code Pink-type wackaloons.

I was hoping to get a SCoaMF banner on TV for the cause or maybe do some tailgating in the parking lot, but it will have to wait.


Here's hoping the skags at Code Pink and the other commies aren't allowed to interrupt.

11 I'm glad that our old enemies are being replaced by brand new ones. I finally figured out how to spell Qaddafi, Ghaddafi, Gadafi. Mumar Muamar Omar and how I'm bored with him.

12 OT sorry:

13 Do you mean "Post-Gaddafy" or "Post-Gaddafi" or "Post-Qadhafi" or "Post-Khadafi" or... You know what? I give up.

14 Surprise Surprise Surprise

15 A sensible plan for Libya: 1) Put all the friendlies on boats off the coast. 2) Sink the boats. 3) Now that it is confirmed there are no friendlies on the ground, put entire country to the torch. 4) Hey, neato! There's oil here. Finders, Keepers!

16

I didn't see this coming. 

Damn, gonna have blame Cameron the damn legacy poacher.  What else can I ship back to the UK?

Send the Queen another iPod with my speeches.  That'll teach them to get me into this kinda mess 14 months before my reelection.  I mean, it's all about me.

 

Like I give a shit about blacks who can't vote for me?  Hell, I don't even give a shit about the blacks who can vote for me.

 

17 <sub>sensible plan for Libya:

1) Put all the friendlies on boats off the coast.

2) Sink the boats.

3) Now that it is confirmed there are no friendlies on the ground, put entire country to the torch.

4) Hey, neato! There's oil here. Finders, Keepers!</sub>

Now we make party!

18 I wonder if the new dictator will focus on investments in green technology or will push first for universal healthcare.

19

Mr Schmidt drew parallels with Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, saying: "There's every reason to believe you keep your eye on these sorts of people."

"Do you feel that way about Sarah Palin as well?" Mr Benioff mischievously planted.

"Let's say I focus on education as an important criteria," a smiling Mr Schmidt answered, much to the delight of the crowd.

Bill Gates never finished Harvard

20 I really want him to do the right thing, like you outline in the post, but then I realize some in the GOP will try to score political points against him for that course of action, so I know he won't. The best thing we can hope for is stability through November 2012, then whoever wins the presidency commits to stamping out the jihadist presence there.

21 11 Any SCOAMF signs seen at political event yet?

I asked the good folks at the Reagan Library yesterday about banners and signs. They are strongly discouraging any gatherings or protests.
All gatherings will be kept way back out of camera and outside the facility.
He said they are trying very hard to keep everything classy and keep out the Code Pink-type wackaloons.

I was hoping to get a SCoaMF banner on TV for the cause or maybe do some tailgating in the parking lot, but it will have to wait.


Here's hoping the skags at Code Pink and the other commies aren't allowed to interrupt.

Posted by: sifty at September 05, 2011 04:31 PM (4CSeG)

The Other McCain has the picture of a guy at a Tea Party Rally wearing a SCoaMF shirt.

22 balance the budget, pay down the debt, and stop trying to fuck my sister. Your sister sounds hot.

23 Know who said this would happen??

The name rhymes with Para Sailin'

24 Just a gut feeling, but something tells me that, privately, this would not be all that unacceptable to King Hussein Putt Toonces.

Indeed. 

Speaking of Islamists and them joining forces:

Turkey to sign strategic alliance with Egypt

25 Obama's Policy? It's Bush-like - without the 50,000,000 freed peoples. -

26 and stop trying to fuck my sister

Do or do not. There is no try.

27 Apparently the rebels are racist too..

28 26 Know who said this would happen??

The name rhymes with Para Sailin'

Posted by: beedubya at September 05, 2011 04:42 PM (AnTyA)

So did just about anyone with a passing familiarity with how the Ayatollah came to power in Iran.

29 The Left has always argued that jihadis hate us because we're mean to them or something. Now that we're helping them we can hang out and watch football together now, right?

30 I'm Standing By!!! At The Ready!!! - two weeks later - Y'ep. I'm Here. Ready, if Needed! - two months later - Can I get a chair?

31

And, of course, as many argued, replacing an unpopular former terrorist with popular current terrorists is no victory at all.

If they kill each other in sufficient numbers, I'm pretty sure I could live with that.

32 <sub>Speaking of Islamists and them joining forces:

Turkey to sign strategic alliance with Egypt</sub>

Good. At this rate in a few more months it won't matter which way the fallout blows. It will land on assholes.

33 So did just about anyone with a passing familiarity with how the Ayatollah came to power in Iran.

Shhhhh,,,

34 I don't know if anyone's watching the Repub forum in SC, but Romey's nervouse as hell, and doesn't sound sincere.

35 I don't know if President Theoretical Understanding Only has the grit for that.

Grit?  I think I had some of that in my shoe once after getting into a sand trap on the 8th hole.  I didn't care for it.

36 I guess these Arab Spring types are just reformers of a different sort. 
If I were charitable, I would say that DoS (Hillary) and the Zero miscalculated and thought that Arabs/Muslims were more or less like normal civilized people and would welcome a chance to overthrow a dictator or two and establish a decent government.  Being practical and cynical, however, I conclude that our elite betters want conflagration in that part of the world for reasons that completely escape me.  Mubarak and Kdaffy are scum, but we don't need more regional instability which is the only sure thing to come from this.  At least now, we won't be getting any cheap oil from Libya so our imported energy dependence is being fixed.

Civilization in the Middle East doesn't mean what you think it does!

37 think any of us on the rightmost side of sanity kind of took it for granted that the end result of all that sandbox square dancing over there in Labia would be a radical fundamentalist Islamic sate.

You're way too pessimistic about uprising like these.  We should support them wholeheartedly.

38 _{I don't know if anyone's watching the Repub forum in SC, but Romey's nervouse as hell, and doesn't sound sincere.}

This makes it his third year so far for that. heh.

39 How the hell did I get on this thread?   Damn, I must need another drink.

40 You say "plot" like it's a new thing.

41

and stop trying to fuck my sister

Don't fall for it!

42

So this is what that whole "leading from behind" thingy was all about, huh?

*in best arab voice*

Arab Spring. Goatly yes, but I like it too!

43 The Other McCain has the picture of a guy at a Tea Party Rally wearing a SCoaMF shirt.

I downloaded the poster that someone (John E,?) did and I'm going to take it down to the local Walgreens or Office Depot where it can be printed on a T shirt

44 OT
This Forum that Jim DeMint is sponsoring is so fucking good.
Too bad Slick Rick isn't there among these learned giants of policy and constitution. He would look like an idiot.

45 11 sifty:

Oh yes.
I put the link downthread, too.

http://tinyurl.com/3glalqz

(I assume everybody will forgive your OT question, too)

46 Good. At this rate in a few more months it won't matter which way the fallout blows. It will land on assholes.

Posted by: sifty at September 05, 2011 04:46 PM (4CSeG)

That will always be true in that part of the world with the exception of Israel.

47 Ya mean nobody in the white House thought about the day after Qaddafi? The hell you say

48 I don't know if anyone's watching the Repub forum in SC, but Romey's nervouse as hell, and doesn't sound sincere.

I just read where Perry smacked Mittens on jobs.

Where is this available to watch?

49 That will always be true in that part of the world with the exception of Israel. Posted by: Hrothgar at September 05, 2011 04:50 PM (i3+c5) Always has been, Always will be.

50 "The call to prayer is one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset."

51 55cherry you either forgot your sock or your sarc tag

52 "The call to prayer is one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset."

Ugh.  I can't stand that noise.  Raving lunatics.

53 SCOAMF

54 Getting AQ into power was SCOAMF's point. Why do you think the damned Administration wouldn't even tell us who this 'plucky band of rebels' were?

55 "The call to prayer is one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset."

I'd like to f*ck that sound.

56 59 Hey! They even have their own embassy in D.C. now!

57 The sunlight reflecting off of the glass at Mecca is one of the prettiest sights on Earth at sunset.

58 Radical islam taking over in Libya. Rick Perry not at the GOP forum.

Coincidence I think not. Now quit staring at my leathery titties.

59 62 How would it look reflecting the light of a thousand suns?

60 I think any of us on the rightmost side of sanity kind of took it for granted that the end result of all that sandbox square dancing over there in Labia would be a radical fundamentalist Islamic state. Posted by: Soap

There's a good chance of it happening, of course, but don't think for a second that the Islamists have a lock on it. Libya is a tribal country that hasn't had much contact with the Mid Eastern countries. It's just not part of the Mid East at all if their location wasn't much of a clue.

The Islamists are going to have to co-opt some of the bigger tribes in order to gain any appreciable power. And it's hard to see just what the Islamo-nazis have to offer them besides Morality Police and legalized goat-f*cking.

61 Every side Obama picks fails.  He has never picked a winner. 
Therefore unions, muslim brotherhoods, and his re-election are all in big trouble. 

62 Romney is actually trying to defend Romneycare.    Um, it ain't workin'.

63 Mitt is so dumb... he thinks there are only 50 states

64 Leading from behind. 

It always works. 

Ask Gen McClellan.

65
Can't I just eat my falafel?

66

Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at September 05, 2011 04:59 PM (lpWVn)

I'd act like a Palestinian on 9/11.

67 Radicals taking over in Libya Radicals want to break Israel-Egypt treaty Radicals in Turkey wan War with Israel Radicals in Syria like killing Radicals in Iran about to get bomb and use it Radicals in Pakistan Radical control lebanon Read Radicals as Muslims Obama is on a hot streak since his Cairo Speech?

68 I want to slap him everytime he says "waiver"

69 And it's hard to see just what the Islamo-nazis have to offer them besides Morality Police and legalized goat-f*cking.

And we've already got the goat f*cking.

70

Dang, sock off.

Hey, I wonder if Zero cheered on the Detroit Lions today in Detroit?

71 Gee, who'd a thunk it?

72 I will grant temporary waivers to all 50 states. Then the next president can drop the hammer.

73 I haven't read the comments, but....

Smart Diplomacy™

74 Way too much exposition in that headline.

75 IDF Home Front Command: Likelihood of all-out Middle East war increasing Home Front Command chief says Middle East regional war could include use of weapons of mass destruction; warns that Arab Spring may turn into 'Radical Islamic Winter'. And the winner is obama

76 I want to slap him everytime he says "waiver"

Posted by: buzzion at September 05, 2011 05:02 PM (GULKT)

Everytime he says that it just reminds people of all the waivers deWon has issued.    Makes them put Romney and deWon in the same category.   Who's advising him?   Wallace and Schmidt?

77 Coincidence I think not. Now quit staring at my leathery titties. Posted by: Pam Gellar Fine Corinthian fun bags, standard equipment.

78 Speaking of ATMs.  Obama's really ahead of the curve on this.  Ya think they also caused the Great Depression Mr. Precedent?

What a shit head.

79 83 I want to slap him everytime he says "waiver"

Posted by: buzzion at September 05, 2011 05:02 PM (GULKT)

Everytime he says that it just reminds people of all the waivers deWon has issued. Makes them put Romney and deWon in the same category. Who's advising him? Wallace and Schmidt?

Posted by: Steph at September 05, 2011 05:05 PM (hfrm2)

Yep, and it just makes me think that its the first step in Romney going "you know we don't really need to repeal it there are some good things in it and with the waivers in place we can just tweak it until it works."  Perry's idea of an executive order to kill as much of it as he can right away isn't that much better though.

80 Funemployment!1!!1!!1

81 Howie Carr wailing on Romney in the Boston Globe this morning, I'm Sorry, It's My Turn.

Oww! That's gonna leave a mark.

82 Here's some more bad news:

Hezbollah building up air defense systems, moving weapons out of Syria as Bashar Assad loses his grip; fly overs of Red Sea, Lebanon track weapons shipments destined for Hamas, Hezbollah.

83

Radicals taking over in Libya
Radicals want to break Israel-Egypt treaty
Radicals in Turkey wan War with Israel
Radicals in Syria like killing
Radicals in Iran about to get bomb and use it
Radicals in Pakistan
Radical control lebanon

Read Radicals as Muslims

Nato Dissolves.

United States stands alone.

84 It will be a matter of days..... not weeks. 

85

OT but that republican debate today was great.

I wish all debated had that format instead of the lame game show format that CNN did.

It's a shame Perry couldn't be there, but it's understandable given the conditions in Texas

86 86 Which is exactly what he said when pressed about the repeal of Dodd-Frank.
Then he dodged the issue with a rah-rah personal attack of Dodd and Frank.

87 Perry's idea of an executive order to kill as much of it as he can right away isn't that much better though.

Posted by: buzzion at September 05, 2011 05:09 PM (GULKT)

What else would you suggest? I'm sure he'd fully support repeal as soon as it passed the House and the Senate. The EO is just a 'what to do in the mean time' type of thing.

88

I thought Romney did fairly well in the debate. I missed Cain and Bachman..

 

89 Man, a bloodbath today in European markets. Various indices down 3, 4, 5%.

90 Romney's a crabbing weasel. He did not once commit himself on an issue.

91 Cant wait for romney to get called out on his lying ass by perry. Newt one. I say he is the most intelligent candidate we have. To bad he is a jackass

92 Newt won*

93 Hoffa would know about being a son-of-a-bitch....

...dead and worm-eaten, probably dismembered, bitch

94
  Maintained from the start that our role in the Libya mess should have been waste Daffy and neutralize his military--about a 2 week live fire exercise, imo.

  THEN say to the Euros who DO have an economic stake there "Ball's in your court, guys. See ya".

95 96 Perry's idea of an executive order to kill as much of it as he can right away isn't that much better though.

Posted by: buzzion at September 05, 2011 05:09 PM (GULKT)

What else would you suggest? I'm sure he'd fully support repeal as soon as it passed the House and the Senate. The EO is just a 'what to do in the mean time' type of thing.

Posted by: Oily Taints at September 05, 2011 05:14 PM (TUax9)

"I want a bill on my desk on the first day from Congress for the Repeal of Obamacare, and I won't sign any other bill until I get it."  I just think that will be a stronger message to get the point across.

96 You're way too pessimistic about uprising like these. We should support them wholeheartedly.

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at September 05, 2011 04:47 PM (ehEyA)

What many in Washington, and the Press, do not understand, is that "Islamist Freedom Fighter", is an Oxymoron....

97 This is a coordinated attack, you sumbitches.

98

What else would you suggest? I'm sure he'd fully support repeal as soon as it passed the House and the Senate. The EO is just a 'what to do in the mean time' type of thing.

Posted by: Oily Taints at September 05, 2011 05:14 PM (TUax9)

What he should say is that he would expect the House and Republican leader in the Senate to work on a repeal bill, so that it could be sitting on his desk the day he takes office.   And, if not that day the next damn day.   Wasn't the repeal bill in the House all of 2 or 3 pages?   How long would that freakin' take?

That's the shit I want to hear.

99 Richard Miniter argued on a Ricochet podcast that the Euroweenies weren't upset with Gaddaffi over oil contracts... Crazy Moammar was delivering the juice just fine. Once the uprising against Gaddaffi began , that spurred European gubmints to help kick him out and see Libya returned to a semblance of normalcy for one primary reason: refugees. The Europeans can't afford any more North African influx to further burden their welfare state.

100 Ya know the difference between the Unions and the Mafia? The Mafia eats better food

101

How about this for happy fun times?

18.12 Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb - the terror group's north African branch - has acquired a stockpile of weapons during the turmoil in Libya, including surface-to-air missiles that are threatening air travel, the EU's counter-terrorism coordinator Gilles de Kerchove says.

Speaking at a Brussels news conference, de Kerchove said members of AQIP had "gained access to weapons, either small arms or machine-guns, or certain surface-to-air missiles which are extremely dangerous because they pose a risk to flights over the territory".

102

Speaking at a Brussels news conference, de Kerchove said members of AQIP had "gained access to weapons, either small arms or machine-guns, or certain surface-to-air missiles which are extremely dangerous because they pose a risk to flights over the territory".

Posted by: stuiec at September 05, 2011 05:28 PM (98Xq9)

And, God forbid anyone should ask what country's flag is on them.

103 Unfortunately, I don't think Obama has the will to do what is necessary here

This is what he wants.  Why would he feel the need to do anything to thwart it?

104 112 Obama's guys are winning. Now they have Stinger and TOW missiles.

105 and stop trying to fuck my sister

It's a trap!

106

“If even one member of the Tea Party is harmed by anyone after Hoffa’s call to violence, then Hoffa should be held accountable by the Justice System and charged appropriately,” the group said.

The Rockford, IL Tea Party has called out Hoffa for his rhetoric, and thrown it back in deWon's face, too.

Guess even Tea Partiers can apply a little Alinsky, huh, deWon?    Huh, huh?

It's from the Daily Caller, but I'm not linking the bowtie wearing asswipes site.

107 There is no sound as beautiful as the sound of a round stone making contact with the skull of a 15 year old muslim girl who refused to have sex with the 65 year old muzztard her father sold her to.

108 Man, a bloodbath today in European markets. Various indices down 3, 4, 5%.

DAX says Auf Wiedersehen to two years of gains.

109 "I'm thinking less and less he wants a second term. Look at the foreign policy mess he'll inherit from his predecessor." OH NO YOU DI'INT!!! YOU DID NOT JUST GO THERE!!! Man, actually, that's some good stuff right there. Ripping off AoSHQ commenters for good jokes is 99% of the reason I come here. Getting pissed off at whatever ghey-shit Gabe comes up with and scrolling past Ace's double-posted 60k word dissertations on the exact convergence of Meghan McCain's breasts with Sarah Palin's vajayjay is the other 1%.

110 the exact convergence of Meghan McCain's breasts with Sarah Palin's vajayjay

I hate it when I miss a saucy post.

111 Not only that. The rebels are rounding up black Africans. When will Maxine Waters tell Obama to go to hell? Maybe the CBC should invade Libya?

112 Regardig Palin's comments on the Libyan situation:

Yes,  a lot of regular folks (not in the State Department or government) were suspicious.

However,  a lot of candidates were silent.  And the media was all rah-rah for the rebels. 

Same deal with Egypt.  I got into an argument with Stephen Hayes about it.  He assured me that "reputable media sources" had told him that the protesters in Cairo were pro-democracy.  THAT was his source.  Anderson Cooper,  I guess.  Bah!

Why is Obama doing this?  I think he is nuts,  and wants to establish the Caliphate,  which he thinks he will get to run.  It's the only thing that makes his decisions consistent. 

Put the screws to Israel.
Kick Mubarik out so Muslim Brotherhood can take over.
Don't do anything regarding Syria, so that pro-Iranian regime stays in charge.
Ignore Turkey's increasing jihadist tendencies.
Overthrow regime in Lybia so AQ/Muslim Brotherhood can take over.
Foment trouble in Yemen so that regime who has actually helped us is in danger.
Abandon Iraq,  which will put them in the crosshairs of Tehran.
Make it plain we are leaving Afghanistan,  so Iran has a nice target to their east.

All of these will eventually end up with Israel completely surrounded,  and a pro-Iranian, pro-terrorist regime in all countries listed except Israel.

If you want to know what he will do about a country,  look to see if the current regime is opposed by the Muslim Brotherhood.  If it is,  he will offer it know support.

113 Surprise!!!

114 The Islamists are going to have to co-opt some of the bigger tribes in order to gain any appreciable power. And it's hard to see just what the Islamo-nazis have to offer them besides Morality Police and legalized goat-f*cking. Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 05, 2011 04:59 PM (s1vtf) The not-getting-beheaded-on-a-daily-basis is also very popular, and gets a lot of support from tribes wherever Al-Qaeda offers that particular service.

115 Empire of Jeff for President. 

116

I think an Islamist takeover in Libya was or is a foregone conclusion. Even if it does not happen in the next month or so, an Islamist takeover within a year or so is likely. But I don't think it's as bad or can be as bad as Afghanistan or Pakistan.

Libya is essentially a strip along the coast, stretching maybe 20 miles inland, where 90% of the roughly 6.5 million people live. The rest is desert with very little water. This means that if there's anyone we really need to administer a beating to, getting to them is more an act of political strength, and water supply control, than anything else.

It seems that an Islamist takeover will end up looking a continuous running of Three Stooges serials. There is a heavy tribal influence among the Libyan Arabs, and getting unity will be tough. They'll have Islam, but which tribe's brand? I expect to see advanced corruption, depravity and pettiness develop in Libya. Outsiders will eventually be tossed out, unless Egypt and/or Algeria roll in to settle problems there.

Algeria remembers their islamic insurrection of some years ago; some things will not be allowed to happen again. Egypt now sees that there really is something to fear from the MB; it's one thing to take a 1-week tour of Shari'a, in Saudi Araba ... quite another to have Shari'a take a tour of you. Egyptians look down on Bedouins ... being forced to become like the Bedouins ... there's some real serious knots in many intestines in Egypt right now ...

Perhaps there is a very small chance that China will move in ... with no reliable infrastructure or work force there, China needs oil and has a few million extra Chinese males ... I feel a very nervous laugh coming on.

Bottom line: I think that the Europeans will be able to play the tribal factions in Libya off against each other for several years, and that the MB will be shown to be incapable of governing Egypt. Egypt and Libya will regress 50+ years, and there will be ongoing turmoil until another Nasser appears. There will be danger, but I think less than there is now or has been since WW2. It's the follow-on to the MB, democracy or Naser II, and when, and with what resources, that worries me.

117 It's Rick Perry's fault. He's a dhimmi.

118

Jihadi Spring! It makes me want to sing!

119 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

120 Carter gave us fundamentalist Islamic Iran and Barry is giving us an Jihadist fundamentalist Islamic Middle East.

121 Carter gave us fundamentalist Islamic Iran and Barry is giving us an Jihadist fundamentalist Islamic Middle East.

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 05, 2011 07:51 PM (e36+G)

Ah, now we are beginning to understand what the "progress" in "progressive" stands for.

122 But I thought they wanted democracy?

123 well, at least the Libyans are rounding up blacks, so that should keep the Byrd wing (RIP) happy.
love a president who covers all the bases.

124 Islamists Plot To Take Over Post-Gaddafy Libya
No shit?  Who would've thought this could happen. 

125
This info is a terrific read. Thanks for the info.I am looking forward for more updates.

126 Was this another gutsy call by Barry? And if the Islamists do take over Barry and the MFM will totally ignore it until all hell breaks loose.

127

"Do you feel that way about Sarah Palin as well?" Mr Benioff mischievously planted.

"Let's say I focus on education as an important criteria," a smiling Mr Schmidt answered, much to the delight of the crowd.

Bill Gates never finished Harvard

Also, the smiling Mr. Schmidt apparently does not know that the singular form of the word "criteria" is criterion.