February 09, 2011
— Ace Not necessarily a Republican pick-up with Virginia annoyingly purplish lately, but this boosts our odds.
Downside: Jim Webb will not feel any pressure to vote moderately. On the other hand, supposedly he's a moderate anyway. Political pressure may have tended to push him to the left (as on the ObamaCare vote) so maybe his being free to vote his leanings might be a good thing too.
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Posted by: pep at February 09, 2011 07:43 AM (3ll0O)
Posted by: eddiebear at February 09, 2011 07:43 AM (mmTgx)
Posted by: joncelli the rather frustrated taxpayer at February 09, 2011 07:44 AM (RD7QR)
supposedly he's a moderate anyway
Given his notoriously prickly history, isn't it more accurate to describe him as a contrary old cuss who would state that 2+2=applesauce, just because he gets his kicks from telling everyone else that they're wrong and he's right?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 09, 2011 07:45 AM (TAjuH)
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2011 07:45 AM (nj1bB)
I was thinking of either veep in '12, or a cabinet slot. He'll run for pres in '16.
Posted by: pep at February 09, 2011 07:46 AM (3ll0O)
Posted by: joncelli the rather frustrated taxpayer at February 09, 2011 07:47 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: EC at February 09, 2011 07:47 AM (mAhn3)
Posted by: nickless the still-banned (99.174.64.43) at February 09, 2011 07:47 AM (qdtoY)
Posted by: joncelli the rather frustrated taxpayer at February 09, 2011 07:48 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Marcus at February 09, 2011 07:48 AM (CHrmZ)
Do you mean the red end?
Posted by: pep at February 09, 2011 07:48 AM (3ll0O)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 09, 2011 07:50 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 09, 2011 07:50 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: George Allen at February 09, 2011 07:53 AM (DYJjQ)
Posted by: Upside-down little boy who prefers a simple pat on the head at February 09, 2011 07:54 AM (2PTT7)
Webb is no moderate. He pretends to be but he voted with Pelosi. He's also nuts and a douchebag.
I wonder why he's doing this?
Posted by: dagny: Release logprof damnit! at February 09, 2011 07:54 AM (HLFbQ)
Posted by: alppuccino at February 09, 2011 07:55 AM (0K6j5)
The chances of big Dem donors giving to a supposed Blue Dog like Webb isn't high in a year where the Dems are defending so many seats. Putting current DNC chair Tim Kaine in that slot, though, will likely cause donations to increase. Still won't help them keep the seat.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 09, 2011 07:55 AM (iBaup)
Maybe Christine O'Donnell could change her state of residency.
Posted by: Soona at February 09, 2011 07:55 AM (UlzA+)
Oh, who are we kidding. We're trolling the web looking for made-up ethnic slurs as we speak, sucka!
Posted by: The Washington Post at February 09, 2011 07:56 AM (2PTT7)
Warner is going to run for higher office? That would be very weird because as senator you don't hear shit from him. I bet half the state thinks John Warner is still in there and the other half doesn't know who is there. He hasn't done shit, hasn't said much, and just votes quietly lib. Yet another fucking carpetbagger come down to cozy up to developers, make a mint, and then try to turn Va into another yankee socialist haven to garner reelection or more developer money.
However, Warner is less annoying as a jerk than Webb.
Posted by: dagny: Release logprof damnit! at February 09, 2011 07:57 AM (HLFbQ)
Posted by: IreneFingIrene at February 09, 2011 08:00 AM (JKe0g)
Posted by: dagny: Release logprof damnit! at February 09, 2011 08:00 AM (HLFbQ)
Posted by: dagny: Release logprof damnit! at February 09, 2011 12:00 PM (HLFbQ)
It's so depressing reading comments at some sites sometimes, isn't it? Makes you wonder if we'll ever get outta this mess.
Posted by: Tami-unban Nickless (99.174.64.43) at February 09, 2011 08:02 AM (VuLos)
Ace - We picked up a fair number of seats this time around and the current Republicans at the state level seem to be very popular. I don't think a lot of Virginia can be called purple any longer. The DC suburbs will always be full of people who tend toward the big government/liberal side of the balance, they're just voting their perceived best interest.
Posted by: Have Blue at February 09, 2011 08:02 AM (mV+es)
God, NO MORE TIM KAINE
The "Eyebrow" has to go. He showed up at my church with Jim Moran to politic. These abortion loving catholics disgust me, especially those that use it to political advantage with the demographic they are eliminating.
Posted by: dagny: Release logprof damnit! at February 09, 2011 08:03 AM (HLFbQ)
Posted by: Federale at February 09, 2011 08:04 AM (JS6HU)
Posted by: dagny: Release logprof damnit! at February 09, 2011 08:05 AM (HLFbQ)
Your description of his time in office is accurate, but only stealth libs can win statewide in VA now. If they are too open about it, they take NoVa and a few other spots, but not the rest of the state.
Obviously one doesn't "run" for a cabinet slot, you campaign for it behind the scenes, and veep would be only if Biden wasn't running. But really, faced with a choice between the two, who would you pick? Well, assuming your ego can handle having a smarter guy than you in the room.
Posted by: pep at February 09, 2011 08:06 AM (3ll0O)
Posted by: dagny: Release logprof damnit! at February 09, 2011 08:07 AM (HLFbQ)
I hope they send Connolly up and he gets the crap beaten out of him and then Herrity or somebody wins his house seat.
Please no George Allen.
Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at February 09, 2011 08:10 AM (LLkBr)
Posted by: NAMBLA at February 09, 2011 08:10 AM (Bs8Te)
Posted by: nickless the still-banned (99.174.64.43) at February 09, 2011 11:47 AM (qdtoY)
Moderate Democrats are the ones that demand a large bribe before voting for national socialist programs.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2011 08:12 AM (7BU4a)
Does anyone remember the fake interview Wuzza-Dem did with the actor who played Kramer on Seinfeld? It was an interview conducted by Chris Matthews.
Posted by: Have Blue at February 09, 2011 08:13 AM (mV+es)
Obviously one doesn't "run" for a cabinet slot, you campaign for it behind the scenes, and veep would be only if Biden wasn't running. But really, faced with a choice between the two, who would you pick? Well, assuming your ego can handle having a smarter guy than you in the room.
Dear Leader would feel intellectualy threatened if Al Greene walked into the oval office.
Posted by: Soona at February 09, 2011 08:13 AM (UlzA+)
Posted by: buzz at February 09, 2011 08:14 AM (i27M5)
Posted by: dagny: Release logprof damnit! at February 09, 2011 12:05 PM (HLFbQ)
I stopped reading them....reduced my blood pressure and stomach upset.
Posted by: Tami-unban Nickless (99.174.64.43) at February 09, 2011 08:14 AM (VuLos)
I wonder why he's doing this?
Posted by: dagny: Release logprof damnit! at February 09, 2011 11:54 AM (HLFbQ)
More money writing kiddy porn?
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at February 09, 2011 08:18 AM (gQF+b)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 09, 2011 08:20 AM (SJ6/3)
Great news for this Virginian! State legislature is all the scuttlebutt right now so it will be interesting to see who starts positioning (other than Allan).
Posted by: Trish at work at February 09, 2011 08:22 AM (58QmI)
14
Actually, the colors on the electoral maps used to flip with each election, and for 2000, the year "Bush's red staters stole the presidency!!111!!", Bush's electoral votes were BLUE - Gore's were red.
Posted by: The Q at February 09, 2011 08:23 AM (AXHCj)
Posted by: sherlock at February 09, 2011 08:23 AM (H9eC4)
Webb and his staffers can get jobs at the Washington Nats baseball stadium. They are hiring beer-guys....
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Posted by: Gabe at February 09, 2011 08:24 AM (w74G6)
Posted by: observer at February 09, 2011 08:26 AM (jjj5/)
With Webb leaving.... begs the question..... what fucking asshole moron dem do I vote against in 2012? Argh.... the not knowing is torture....
Posted by: Gabe at February 09, 2011 08:26 AM (w74G6)
Given his notoriously prickly history, isn't it more accurate to describe him as a contrary old cuss who would state that 2+2=applesauce, just because he gets his kicks from telling everyone else that they're wrong and he's right?
You've got him pegged. I think in VA, he was the Dems' best shot in 2012. Despite his liberal voting record, the Dems weren't going to put up anyone else who could possibly be even plausibly as conservative as him.
I'm not worrying about him going all lame duck on us. He's such a contrarion, he's as likely to bite the hand of the Dems, being free of re-election fundraising concerns, as he is going full libtard. He hasn't been all that restrained up until now.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 09, 2011 08:29 AM (T0NGe)
..... what fucking asshole moron dem do I vote against in 2012?
I feel your pain - they have a huge supply of them to pick from, don't they?
Reminds me of the time a moonbat commenter here called me a cocksucker: I politely and helpfully said I could not help him out in that department, but suggested all he had to do was go down to the offices of the local Democrats, where they have a list of thousands and thousands of them.
Posted by: sherlock at February 09, 2011 08:32 AM (H9eC4)
If you think that it's not possible to have a smarter guy than you in the room, then you never suffer a hit to your ego anyway.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 09, 2011 08:33 AM (T0NGe)
Read his quite good book on the Scotch Irish contribution to America. Webb's an old time Southern populist/isolationist who learned to distrust Republicans on his granddaddy's knee. He's conservative on social issues but knows jack about economics and thus loves to shaft corporations almost as much as John Edwards. Webb can also hold a grudge for decades.
Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at February 09, 2011 08:42 AM (mzm/v)
Posted by: Have Blue at February 09, 2011 08:42 AM (mV+es)
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 09, 2011 08:43 AM (eh+ki)
Yeah, so says Fox as well. He has a rating of 13/20 for the last 2 years with a lifetime of 14. Add to that he has voted with the Obama regime on every important bill there is and I don't see him as so moderate. I wonder about the double standard with the MFM on making calls like this anyway. A Republican with a similar record of non-party crossing would be called far right wing "conservative".
As for George Allen, he had a pretty good record but he (and the Republican Party) allowed the MFM to destroy him with the BS Macaca crap. Its not even a real word but somehow the MFM made it stick because far too many fair weather conservatives still allow the MFM to set the tone.
I guess he is in the same boat with Sara Palin, the MFM has destroyed him so he is off the board now.
Posted by: Vic at February 09, 2011 08:48 AM (M9Ie6)
Downside. With no decent Democrat to pick up the slack, other than Kaine, who probably wont run, it becomes a seat that the GOP should pick up no matter who they nominate.
At least that will be the perception.
Meaning, nasty primary fight. George Allen should be a shoo-in. But many will push Jamie Radtke, who has a history of stirring things up, but never winning any actual races.
Christine O'Donnell redux, anyone???
Posted by: Swamp Yankee at February 09, 2011 08:56 AM (3DIBw)
Look - the only reason Webb won the election is that Allen ran what may have been one of the top five worst campaigns for major office in US history - I know, I was there. He (Allen) and his staff sincerely believed that they had the election sewn up from day one. At about three weeks out they finally realized that they were in a race, but by then the damage was done.
If Allen indeed is the candidate, I'd like assurances that he learned some lesson...
Posted by: Jess at February 09, 2011 08:57 AM (6klwE)
EVERYONE.... CLICK ON THE CHRIS MURPHY FOR SENATE BANNER ADS ON ACE. IT DRIVES UP HIS CLICK COSTS.
He's a lib that puts Osama, Reid, and Pelosi to shame. Not like they'll get any votes/support from Ace visitors anyway. So, might as well drive up his costs!
What a moron. It's like Sarah Palin "investing" in banner ads on HuffPo or something.
Posted by: Gabe at February 09, 2011 08:59 AM (w74G6)
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 09, 2011 09:01 AM (eh+ki)
Posted by: Jess at February 09, 2011 09:04 AM (6klwE)
Posted by: Swamp Yankee at February 09, 2011 09:07 AM (3DIBw)
Could be getting extorted by some would be challenger over some nasty scandal simmering below the radar.
Also, senators get retirement pay after a single term.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 09, 2011 09:24 AM (vOE73)
Jim Webb is a moderate? How exactly does one become a moderate on constitutional issues?
You either stand with and abide by the constitution or you don't!
Posted by: matterson at February 09, 2011 09:30 AM (o90eJ)
Posted by: Swamp Yankee at February 09, 2011 09:33 AM (3DIBw)
Posted by: 15 minutes of fame at February 09, 2011 09:36 AM (6SGWt)
So much for the cowardly little race-baiting Senator from Virginia. Many of us were looking forward to lil' Jimmy getting his ass handed to him in 2012. Make no mistake, 2006 was a perfect storm that allowed the little douche to win an election. Something like that wasn't going to happen again. I'm just surprised lil' Jimmy was smart enough to realize it himself, since he has never shown any marked intelligence before, just the ability to be a sleazy little scumbag.
Posted by: hughie at February 09, 2011 09:51 AM (HFscI)
However, Warner is less annoying as a jerk than Webb.
Posted by: dagny: Release logprof damnit! at February 09, 2011 11:57 AM (HLFbQ)
I disagree- Warner is every bit as bad as Webb.
I smell something- sniff sniff- why it is SorosButtBoyPerriello! He would be a formidable candidate against that doofus George Allen. I can only hope there is some other Republican in VA to run for this seat that isn't Jamie Radtke. But old people around here in central VA absolutely drool over the possibility of having Allen back as Senator.
Posted by: Museisluse at February 09, 2011 10:05 AM (u/Nbu)
Posted by: NC Mountain Girl
Webb is not even close to being a "conservative" on social issues. I know these Democrats, 20 years ago I was one of them. They all were proteges of Chuck Robb. He being the man that the DLC was grooming to run for President. Chuck liked to talk about how conservative he was, but when push came to shove, he always sided with the liberals. The only thing that could even be construed as being conservative was that he voted to make sure the Defense Dept budget wasn't cut too much. Webb does the same thing.
The reason why Robb was pretty much able to get away with it and Webb didn't is the internet. Back then we had The Washington Post, Richmond Times-Dispatch, Virginian Pilot, and Roanoke Times as the only media really covering DC and Richmond in depth. The Times-Dispatch is somewhat conservative, but the others are far from it. Hell, the Roanoke Times makes the Post look downright conservative.
Posted by: MrCaniac, proud Virginian at February 09, 2011 10:17 AM (oREHE)
Posted by: MrCaniac, proud Virginian at February 09, 2011 02:17 PM (oREHE)
You should take a gander at some of the newspapers in the Great Republic of Charlottesville.
Posted by: Museisluse at February 09, 2011 10:23 AM (u/Nbu)
You should take a gander at some of the newspapers in the Great Republic of Charlottesville.
I can only imagine. If they are anything like the Roanoke Times, they probably have UVa "sociology" "professors" writing editorials on economic issues. We are treated to a couple of those weekly in the Roanoke Times. The difference is that they are Va Tech profs.
Posted by: MrCaniac, proud Virginian at February 09, 2011 10:36 AM (oREHE)
Weird coincidence. That's the exact subject line of the e-mail I sent to Senator Webb after he voted to confirm Kagan.
Posted by: joh at February 09, 2011 01:57 PM (JEvSn)
Posted by: Kasper Hauser at February 09, 2011 02:35 PM (NYW94)
I smell trouble of some sort.
Posted by: Kemp at February 09, 2011 03:08 PM (JpFM9)
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Posted by: joncelli the rather frustrated taxpayer at February 09, 2011 07:42 AM (RD7QR)