1 What's a Clapper Comic?

2 Take that back, unpainted-face!

3 He's barely funny the way Helen Thomas is barely beautiful.

4 Further, SUCK THIS ONE TIME, SOOTHSAYER!

5 Wait, are you comparing John Stewart with the clap?

Because if you are, you may be giving him too much credit.

6 Never understood the appeal. His biggest sin is being unfunny.

7 Oh, and a side note:

It's not the caps that make you look crazy.  It's the crazy that makes you look crazy.

8 What's a Clapper Comic? Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 14, 2011 05:47 PM (lbo6/) When you depend on the audience to clap at your jokes instead of laugh because it's about the message not being funny.

9 "A liar, put briefly."

Not possible. See, I have a clown nose. It's like a "get out of jail" card except substitute the word "jail" for "lying."

10

What's a Clapper Comic?

Clown nose on (clap clap)

Clown nose off (clap clap)

Clown nose on, clown nose off, The Clapper Comic.

11 John Stewart can suck my c%ck.

12 Nice, Ace.  Well put.

Is a Clapper Comic like a Klesmer Comic?  Do they play the borscht belt?

13 I have never seen an entire episode of this show, or Colbert (?), but my kids watch it regularly.

FML.

14 He sucks dick. Same league as Alec Baldwin and tina fey. No talent NY socialists who suck dick.

15 and Stewart should sew his ass shut.

16 Stewart's constant mugging at the camera got old real quick for me.

17

Instead of commenting on this post, I'll just raise my eyebrows and gesture with my hands a little bit at it. 

18

Is the clapper referring to his 'clown nose on, clown nose off' line?

He seems just like every other 'journalist.' Lib as the day is long, and professing to be objective the same long day. Its a shame that the comedy industry is so partisan because Ø has provided a lifetime of material for them if they would use it. Its like ANWAR of jokes.

19
Has Crowder been on Red Eye?

20 Thank you Ace, my thoughts on Stewart exactly.

21 If they are not on the History/Military/Discovery Channel, FOX News, YES, ESPN, Or the Sopranos I don't know them

22 "Look: I get it. You like him. You want him to like you back."

Yeah, no. I couldn't give a flying fuck about that "news" hound and where his clown nose leads him.

Comedy Central is for South Park. And that is all Comedy Central is for.

23 OT. IN morons -- Should I chip in a few $ to Richard Mourdock's primary campaign? I read some "boo hiss Lugar" stuff occasionally here. Can Mourdock win? Is he good? I just got a send money email from the National Tea Party. Thanks in advance.

24 I am sorry but politics isn't funny. It is only funny to douchebag liberal nerds so cocooned in their own self rightoues sense of importance they get a hard on reading the New York Times and seeing their opinions validated.

25 17--- OH MY GOD THAT'S SO HILARIOUS!!! YOU'RE MUGGING!! OH DEAR LORD I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT SINCE THE BORSCHT BELT!!!!

26 I think that Stewart is a Mocker, the type that Psalms has so much to say about. He can be funny at times - meaning I end up laughing on the rare occasions when I watch him - but I end up despising him all the same.

27 I've never watched the show, and never will.

28 Never liked Stewart. Or Coal-bear. And Maher can FOAD.

29 Bill OReally sure wants JS to like him.

30

I give one thing to Stewart, he's funnier than Maher.

The funniest thing that ever came out of Maher's mouth was Kathy Griffen's cock. And to note, it too has never been funny.

31 Jon Stewart was great on "The Jon Stewart Show" - particularly when he did the "Talk Show Jon" sketches with a Ken doll.

He was good on the Daily Show, briefly, until Bush got elected in 2000, and he got all pissy about it.

He needs to take a hint from Colin Quinn's defunct "Tough Crowd,"  and play his show for LAUGHS, not CHEERS.

32 I used to watch The Daily Show.  The last straw for me was two different interviews he did.  Interviewing Howard "I hate Republicans and everything they stand for" Dean while he was head of the DNC and giggling like a school girl and tossing him softballs the entire time.  And then when he had on Collin Powell after he had recently left the State Department.  He was trying everything he possibly could to get Powell to say something bad about the Bush Administration.  It just disgusted me.  I may have stopped that night, or a little while later, but definitely wasn't long after.

33

Stewart's the love-object of every chick in the People's Republic of California.  I only watch him if I'm getting sex for it.  Does that make me wrong ?

 

34 I give one thing to Stewart, he's funnier than Maher.

Somehow, Special Olympics comes to mind






and again, I denounce myself.

35 @ 8, Thanks. That makes perfect sense. And now, I'm gonna be even more annoyed when I see a clip of his show.

36 27: I read this blog so I can learn what is going on w/o subjecting myself to liberal media. Thanks to all the morons who take one for the team and then fill the rest of us in.

37

I never understood why people consider him funny.

He's not.

38 Stewart should sew his ass shut.

Posted by: toby928™ stealing others schtick and beating it to death long after it's funny at June 14, 2011 05:53 PM (GTbGH)

He did that long ago. That is why he is always full of shit. I watched his show one time a long long time ago. Turned it off after a few minutes.

39 Treacher said it best about him,.. Clown nose on, clown nose off..

40 The sad part is how many people use him as their primary source of news .

41

I talk to a few Libs who reference Stewart and Maher so regularly it's as if they're in trances. I never watch either of them so I always ask for examples of their great wit and insight. Blank stares all around. 

OT-Althouse breaking possible Sup. Ct. victory for Walker/GOP over the Fleebaggers/Teacher's Unions.

42 Nothing to add because every point is exactly right. I'll admit to liking Colbert, even though I know he's not with us either. But he's quick; I mean, he comes up with some funny stuff on the spot...and he *will* go where the comedy takes him. It's more like the Simpsons in that although you know where they stand, they won't dance around something that's funny if it hits liberals, either.

Stewart is so one-note. Every story is approached with the same tone. It's Maureen Dowd cookie-cutter column-writing applied to political comedy.

"Semi-talented" = one or two notches above mediocre. Yep.

43 Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.....
 
I'll go with the jokers.

44 8 What's a Clapper Comic?
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 14, 2011 05:47 PM (lbo6/)

When you depend on the audience to clap at your jokes instead of laugh because it's about the message not being funny.

Posted by: mAc Chaos at June 14, 2011 05:51 PM (6s7n2)

I think this has been part of the weakest thing Conan has had on his new show with his comedian choices.  He's had on some legitimate funny comics, but he's had on at least 3 Clapper Comedians I've seen.  Unfunny liberal dickbags that do nothing but rant

45

Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher used to run on Comedy Central too.

46 I hate him.

Now I'm off to get drunk at a neighbor's party.  I'll attempt to keep any videos from appearing on Youtube.

47 Citing Jon Stewart as a credible news source is like citing Wikipedia as a credible source for a college paper.

48
Stewart dances up to the truth, then dismisses it with a joke. That makes him honest and funny.

49 I am sorry but politics isn't funny.

Finally, a voice of reason! #imworkingforyouamerica

50 Why is it that Jooooo comics run away from their names?  Leibowitz would knock 'em dead in the Borscht Belt.

51 Did you see him last night? He was so funny my hands hurt!

52 Yeah, I definitely know a few 20-30 something liberals who feel Jon Stewart is the voice of reason and truth, and extremely fair to republicans and extremely critical of liberals. heh.

53 Stewart is funny...funny looking!

54 OT

WI Supreme Court just threw out Sumi's ruling on the collective bargaining law.  Making it effective.

55 Stipulated: Nose attached or not, Stewart is a total clown. However...he does have conservative pundits on (despite what the email says) and has conservative politicos, etc, on as well. Crowder is sour grapes on this one.

56 Lewis Black is the worst of the clapper dickbags on that channel.

57 I knew a kid in middle school who was so similar to Stewart I swear to this day he was an illegitimate child or something. Either that or a clone.

58

I did happen to catch Bill Maher's show on HBO a few years ago in, of all places, Jamaica.

 

Up late and waaaaayyyyy too interested in TV I flipped upon the show to see Maher "interviewing" David Frum and Natalie Maines.

 

I actually watched the whole thing without even blinking I think.

 

When done, I never felt dumber.  Natalie Maines is perhaps the most amazingly stupid person I have ever seen.

59 I watched that big hyped appearance with Clown Nose on O'Reilly.

While debating OR is like arguing with a footstool, I was amazed at how awed they were at Stewart's "brilliant" debating style.

What was it? He basically made the same kinds of counterpoints that anybody could and does do, usually the "what abouts" so common with ordinary thinkers

60 He needs to take a hint from Colin Quinn's defunct "Tough Crowd,"  and play his show for LAUGHS, not CHEERS.

Posted by: wooga at June 14, 2011 05:57 PM (2p0e3)

1.) Tough Crowd ruled.  Replacing it with that one note hack Colbert was a travesty.

2.) This is just more evidence that Red Eye is simply a better show.  Yeah, they're mostly right/libertarian, but they bring liberals on the show on a consistent basis, and non-douchey ones at that (Paul Provenza being the exception).  

61 Jon Stewart is just Bill Maher without the inner-asshole fully released.  Hell, he even does the same "I'm not really a liberal or conservative" crap that the uber-liberal Maher used to spew.

62

Eveyone around me thinks just like me... therefore I MUST be a Moderate!

Heck, even John Stewert, who SAYS hes a moderate, thinks like I do... and I know that he would never LIE to me!

63 30

I give one thing to Stewart, he's funnier than Maher.

You could say the same for me.  Have you heard me imitate my mother?  "Margalet, you no mally White man!"  

 

64 Jon Stewart lifted his entire act from Charlie Callas.

http://tinyurl.com/62qfaw

65 I don't bother with John Stewart.  Never watch.  Saw through him right off.

66 Lewis Black is the worst of the clapper dickbags on that channel.

Yeah he annoys the hell out of me. Angry, ranting, vaguely drunken comedy takes a deft touch; which he lacks utterly.

67 Ugh. I  think I'm reaching my quarterly political burn-out event. Time to take a week off from the news.

68 he does have conservative pundits on (despite what the email says) and has conservative politicos, etc, on as well. Crowder is sour grapes on this one. Posted by: doug at June 14, 2011 06:05 PM (iq/yq) As guests? Or as a regular correspondent doing 'special' reports?

69 Angry, ranting, vaguely drunken comedy takes a deft touch

*nods*

70 Stewart does not deserve any credit; however, it is important to keep in mind that he is an integral part of what the Administration considers to be the only truly important part of the media: the ridicule guild. They don't give a good goddamn what Brain Williams thinks or says; what's important is who Stewart, Colbert, Behar, Maher are ridiculing. Rule 5 baby.

71 I liked that You Wrote It, You Watch It show Jon hosted. Like that episode when the fat kid cryogenically freezes a dead gerbil and his sister thinks it's strawberry swirl ice cream? He should just do that again.

72 I'll attempt to keep any videos from appearing on Youtube.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

 

Here's hoping you fail spectacularly.

Have fun.

73 Instead of obsessing over some network TV "comic" whoever the Hell he is, you could do something pleasurable and useful - like being with the kids or fishing or using those 6.8 SPC RCBS dies or rebuilding the deck or fixing the car or barbequing some halibut. Or attacking a six pack of Shiner Bock and staring at the walls. Ya know?

74 I know this has been said before, but I'm going to bring it up again: Red Eye needs to come on the same time as Stewart/Colbert. It also needs to have clips from the show up the next day. Pronto. That is the only way to culturally reach out to the idiot kids of my generation that have grown up with John and Colbert as their trusted news source. I say this as someone who has friends who Tivo Stewart/Colbert and force me to watch it, whereas I actively seek out Red Eye on my own on Hulu. Red Eye's format is amazing, Greg is a handsome devil and a great host, and they get great guests, but it is ridic to not be able to show clips of it the next day. When you have a "comedy" show where Stewart ravages the evils of Ayn Rand for like five minutes before introducing the topic of the Atlas Shrugged movie, but he would never consider doing the same for Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood, that is not comedy. That is indoctination. And it's time to give the conservative movement a fighting chance to do the same. Red Eye is ready to be the anti-Stewart; please, powers that be, let it.

75 I'd love to see Stewart debate with some just regular conservative comedians.  I get the feeling they'd wipe the floor with him on knowledge of issues and politics, but they'd also get more laughs, because their jokes are designed to be laughed at, not clapped at.

76 67 Lewis Black is the worst of the clapper dickbags on that channel. Yeah he annoys the hell out of me. Angry, ranting, vaguely drunken comedy takes a deft touch; which he lacks utterly. I'm pretty sure I read it here about older comedians like George Carlin and David Letterman becoming bitter, hating old geezers.. Spent their life for fame and being the clown and when they reach it, wonder if that's all there is and start to hate themselves and through that, the world..

77 >>>he does have conservative pundits on (despite what the email says) and has conservative politicos, etc, on as well. Crowder is sour grapes on this one. No, you don't get it. He has on conservative INTERVIEW SUBJECTS. He does not have on conservative PUNDITS to do their own stories or cut their own videos or offer their opinions. He has conservative GUESTS on in a situation in which he guides (and restricts) the terms of engagement.

78 I don't get why Stewart is considered some kind of journalist or news guy. He's an unfunny liberal hack.

79 I can safely say I've never seen more than 10 minutes of stewart and colbert combined. And I'm much better off because of it.

80 69 he does have conservative pundits on (despite what the email says) and has conservative politicos, etc, on as well. Crowder is sour grapes on this one.
Posted by: doug at June 14, 2011 06:05 PM (iq/yq)

As guests? Or as a regular correspondent doing 'special' reports?

Posted by: Dave C at June 14, 2011 06:08 PM (eEUFS)

Yeah, who is a conservative pundit employed by the Daily Show?  Or are they Dave Weigel "conservative pundits" maybe?

81 Jon Stewart?  Never heard of him.  Maybe that's a subject best left to the bloggers...

82

I don't know why you like him, because he's not terribly funny, and his stock in trade is the cutesy mugging that Letterman used to do when Letterman was still bothering to even phone it in, back in the mid-90s, but I do get it, you like him.

I attempted to watch his show but quickly changed channels.  These oh-to-be-so-smart-hip assholes like stewart, maher, letterman, et. al. are not only not funny but tedious.  The anti-funny.  The fact that some people watch these shows to get their national information is just another peg in the idiocracy wall.

83 I liked John Stewart in that one episode of News Radio where he played Andy Dick's twin brother. Since then, eh, don't really care.

Here's the thing I don't understand. He's a liberal host of a left leaning show that caters to a liberal audience. Why waste time trying to install yourself as a conservative pundit? Of course they won't hire Crowder.  The Daily Show is not a fucking public utility, it's a television show created for the purpose of making money. This whole attempt is kind of stupid.

84

"But he doesn't like you back. Period. And you sound a little sad, desperate, and needy hoping for some Jon Stewart validation."

Can I get an "AMEN!"

85 79 I don't get why Stewart is considered some kind of journalist or news guy. He's an unfunny liberal hack.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 14, 2011 06:12 PM (RJ+Yj)

Because he's been on for over a decade, so all the little kids that started watching him as teens and are now in their 20's and 30s considered him a news guy, and they still watch him because they have no clue.

86 The real news is occasionally funny.  Fake news is not.  Except for The Onion.  That's some fake news I can laugh at, occasionally.

87 I always thought he was funny as hell.

You know, the actual hell.

88

@57: "Lewis Black is the worst of the clapper dickbags on that channel."

Black is sometimes funny.  His bit on Ron White's Celebrity show was good, and he appeared pretty genuinely moved when talking about military families. 

*shrug*

His 2000 election show wasn't bad, either.  15 minutes ripping on Bush, the GOP, and the Right, and then 15 ripping on Gore, the Dems, and the Left.   It was funny to watch the crowd reactions change.  You could feel the Lefties seething when he started to go after their sacred cows.

89

No, you don't get it. He has on conservative INTERVIEW SUBJECTS. He does not have on conservative PUNDITS to do their own stories or cut their own videos or offer their opinions.

He has conservative GUESTS on in a situation in which he guides (and restricts) the terms of engagement.

 

One of the few times I actually watched Jon Stewart was when he had John Yoo on (who was one of the lawyers in the Bush administration that came up with appropriate interrogation techniques of terror suspects).  Yoo completely pwned him.  Stewart didn't know what hit him (and he looked like a total smirking dumbass).  Yoo was calm, articulate and smart.  He was smiling the entire time he was sticking the knife into Stewart and eviscerated his lameass arguments.  It was a thing of beauty.  That and the time Lynn Cheney took down Wolfe Blitzer are two of my favorite MFM interviews of conservatives. 

90 OT but important: Wisconsin's Republican governor has won a major victory: the state Supreme Court says his polarizing union rights law can go into effect. Gov. Scott Walker pushed the law that eliminates most of public employees' collective bargaining rights and forces them to pay more for their health and pension benefits. He says it's needed for the state to address its budget problems. The law passed in March after weeks of protests that drew tens of thousands of people to the state Capitol. But the law has been tied up in the courts since a Democrat filed a lawsuit accusing Republicans of violating the state open meetings law during the run-up to passage. The Wisconsin Supreme Court said the judge had no authority to interfere with the legislative process

91

Here's the thing I don't understand. He's a liberal host of a left leaning show that caters to a liberal audience. Why waste time trying to install yourself as a conservative pundit? Of course they won't hire Crowder.  The Daily Show is not a fucking public utility, it's a television show created for the purpose of making money. This whole attempt is kind of stupid.

Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at June 14, 2011 06:14 PM (+lsX1)

Because Crowder is a comedian that probably does a lot of political humor and probably thought he could get in there for exposure and using his humor and political interests like others do.

92 Ironically, Big Hollywood is the worst about this - any time Stewart says something that's not completely lefty talking points, they fall all over themselves slapping it on the frontpage, making like Stewart called Obama a socialist or something.  It's really frickin' annoying.

93 motionview: "They don't give a good goddamn what Brain Williams thinks or says; what's important is who Stewart, Colbert, Behar, Maher are ridiculing. Rule 5 baby."

Bingo. Funny's got nothin' to do with it. It's naked aggression carefully dressed in funny clothes. And generous helpings of Liberal dog-whistle.

94 One of the few times I actually watched Jon Stewart was when he had John Yoo on (who was one of the lawyers in the Bush administration that came up with appropriate interrogation techniques of terror suspects). Yoo completely pwned him. Stewart didn't know what hit him (and he looked like a total smirking dumbass). Yoo was calm, articulate and smart. He was smiling the entire time he was sticking the knife into Stewart and eviscerated his lameass arguments. I remember that Steward was lamenting later about how "he was right there and I missed"...

95

Jon Stewart isn't entertaining. 

Irritating?  Yes. 

Annoying? Yes. 

Talented?  No.

96 Jon Stewart insists on himself. And he's a douche. His show is so formula driven and predictable it's boring. Mugging and clownish takes on the news followed by knowing glances and more clown faces followed by cloyingly lampooning of the conservative issue du jour all lovingly approved by his audience of trained seals. I'd rather take pics of my dic than watch that drivel.

97 I need to listen to the Crowder video again but I thought he said something to the effect that his manager dumped him as a result... I was working, kind of, at the time, so was not really paying attention.

98

@83: "The anti-funny."

No, that's our gig.  Seriously - we fuckin' own it!

99 Stewart is funny like Eddie Murphy in Pluto Nash funny.

100 88I always thought he was funny as hell.

You know, the actual hell.

Posted by: K~Bob at June 14, 2011 06:17 PM (TlLbZ)

Sooo.... three Congressmen get sent to hell.... oh wait... thats not the punch line folks... why are you applauding???

101 Jon Stewart was great on "The Jon Stewart Show" - particularly when he did the "Talk Show Jon" sketches with a Ken doll.

I was kind of a fan, back in...ought ninety-three or so? Of his standup. I don't remember when exactly. Rudy days.

Then there was a moment on his MTV show (in '94 or '95, I think?) that made me go "Ah fuck, he's not funny anymore. He's pro."

What happened was, Mark Leyner was the guest, and he was reading a sentence about...Peggy Fleming? maybe?...getting fired from a nurse-volunteer gig for housing medical equipment in her vagina, or something like that, and Stewart clown-nose-offed in panic to cut off the line and go to commercial a few seconds early, mortified and/or afraid to have someone go that far into non-clapper territory on his showbiz ass-kissing show. He sort of played it off like his OMG STOP was part of the show—a little off-mic ha-ha you understand shoulder-slap thing—but it wasn't. Dude can't act.

 —

Any of you who don't know what a "clapper" is, simple rule for our times: A 'tard or incest joke that culminates in "Palin" is a clapper. The same 'tard or incest joke tagged with "Obama" is edgy/daring/art/etc (or a clapper, if it's for an audience that wants Obama-'tard-incest jokes, regardless of quality). A 'tard-incest joke with no audience-bonding exit anywhere in it—that implicates not reassures the crowd, drawing individual not social laughs, from surprise not camaraderie—is comedy of the kind that Stewart/Cross/Garofalo/et al claim to do. And they don't.

102 Here's the thing I don't understand. He's a liberal host of a left leaning show that caters to a liberal audience. Why waste time trying to install yourself as a conservative pundit? Of course they won't hire Crowder. The Daily Show is not a fucking public utility, it's a television show created for the purpose of making money. This whole attempt is kind of stupid. Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at June 14, 2011 06:14 PM (+lsX1) Stewart purports to be nonbiased and moderate. Crowder called his bluff.

103 jon stewart couldn't hold a candle to the sweat on the pimple on charlie callas's assistant's ass

104 Because Crowder is a comedian that probably does a lot of political humor and probably thought he could get in there for exposure and using his humor and political interests like others do.

Like I said, kind of stupid. It's not a match. It would be like me applying for a dancing job at a titty bar. I'm a good dancer and have a spectacular ass, but the customers, due to their particular proclivities, wouldn't want to watch.

105

I still say that somebody in the entertainment industry is missing out on a really serious gold mine. I mean, the President orders an attack on a small arab country, pretty much because he feels like it, and then skips off on vacation? You just can't make that stuff up. Spending a trillion dollars to lower unemployment, unemployment goes up, and you propose doing it again? Pretending to care about the oil spill, and then doing nothing but strongarming the oil company to do what it what already doing? Stopping domestic drilling, and then loaning another country money to do it (while there's ramant unemployment, and the debt is out of control)? Getting dragged off the golf course to witness the Bin Laden raid? It just goes on and on -  it SCREAMS for parady.

And - c'mon! Joe Biden, too?  Wow - does somebody have to slap them upside the head? Even Hillary adds to the farce (remember the doofy "Reset button" for Russia that didn't translate to what it was supposed to?).

106

107 At least there's always the 1/2 Hour News Hour on Fox. 

108

Sooo John Stewart, Lewis Black, and Jannine G. are all sent to hell to give a show...

Come on folks... THATS NOT THE PUNCH LINE!!! Quit applauding.... GEEZZZZZ...

109 I used to like Stewart back when I was in college and was too busy to read the news for myself.  Once I got out and started learning the issues myself (mostly thanks to foreign newspapers), watching his show each night was disgusting in the ugly way he would twist and distort every issue to fit his "side".  I realize I was worse then uninformed but was deliberately poisoned  in a way so treacherous that it not only confused the issue of the day but it blinded me to understanding the issues the next day.

He is also part of what I call "cocoon" media.  Political news for people who just want to be told stories at night about monsters who their Mom for just 70% of their allowance and unquestioned loyalty in any argument with their father will gladly protect them from all these monsters that are most definitely not made up and just some ugly way to scare her you unto supporting her.

110 Thank God.  Finally a conservative who knows Stewart isn't funny.   Here's a clue for future reference:  If Bill O'Reilly says someone is funny, they're not.

111

So which of you people is going to get off your ass and start a cable channel that features conservative comedians so I can be entertained?

I am waiting.

112 Coming in to this issue without knowing either Crowder or the backstory for this kerfuffle:

There does seem to be some inadvertent mis-communication (at best) or some fact twisting (at worst) going on here.  The letter Crowder flashes in his video pretty clearly is in response to a request to be booked as a sit-down guest, while the complaint seems to be that he was not given a shot as a performer on the show (what Stewart calls "correspondent", not "pundit" -- which, yecch -- which may be the source of the confusion).   And the while the wording of "we never book conservative pundits" is stupid (considering that they have), it seems to me an attempt at a nice-ish way to say "don't call us, we'll call you". 

And, while I can't disagree with your estimation of Stewart's politics (his clear statements of abject disappointment in Obama to follow through on some of his most liberal promises reveal both his leanings and his willingness to attack any moving target), I think dismissing him as not mattering is wishful thinking -- remember that there is a whole generation to whom Stewart's show IS the news, and, not coincidentally, Obama's outfit pulled a big hunk of that generation into the process in '08. 

113 Lewis Black is a good guy, and in terms of leftist comedians is as good as it gets.   He is a lefty like Lee Stranahan is a lefty.  Sure its his "Side" but he does not totally trust them nor beleive every BS ugly thing they say about our "side."

Most conservatives can stomach that sort of respected difference quite well.

114 Maher is doing a good job on Game of Thrones

115 ...there is a whole generation to whom Stewart's show IS the news...

Not to put too fine a point on it, but if that's where they're getting their "news", they're fucking stupid.

116 Stephen Crowder is not funny.  At all.  He's just as likely to get conservative clapter from his followers as is Jon Stewart.

117

One of the few times I actually watched Jon Stewart was when he had John Yoo on (who was one of the lawyers in the Bush administration that came up with appropriate interrogation techniques of terror suspects).  Yoo completely pwned him.  Stewart didn't know what hit him (and he looked like a total smirking dumbass).  Yoo was calm, articulate and smart.  He was smiling the entire time he was sticking the knife into Stewart and eviscerated his lameass arguments.  It was a thing of beauty.  That and the time Lynn Cheney took down Wolfe Blitzer are two of my favorite MFM interviews of conservatives. 

 

Yeah i saw that one it was freaking awesome. I caught that on youtube. Worth putting up. Yoo made Stewart look like the half informed CNN hacks Stewart always makes fun of.

118 I used to watch the Daily Show all the time when it was hosted by Craig Kilborn. It was funny. Since Stweart took over it's still funny sometimes but it has nothing to do with Stewart but because of the correspondents/guests.

The funniest thing I remember was this big annoucement saying Stweart had renewed his contract and would be around till the 2004 election, as if there was some doubt. I mean what the hell else does Stewart have to do anyway? Like he had a standup career? He was the guy who couldn't even land the gig following Letterman which is how he ended up on The Daily Show.

119 An excellent post, Ace - and one that mirrors my views as to Stewart and his essentially non-humorous performances and absurdly leftwing bias.  About that bias, it is so noticable as to make just about everything Stewart protests on his own behalf as to him being 'non partisan' embarrassingly revealing about Stewart's dim intellect AND corrupt character.  I watched him on an O'Reilly appearance a while back (or perhaps it was two appearances there in time) and he reveals himself to be fearful, defensive, in some sort of permanent angst or personality anguish indicative of a very defensive person going to extremes to protect some ground as yet he refuses to define (by claiming he's "non partisan" which no one believes nor should believe).

His reliance on sarcasm is way past comedy to some point of illness (his own).  I've never found sarcasm to be the same thing as comedy, and rarely laugh at it for that reason -- sarcasm is emitted from bitterness and lack of insight and Stewart has simply made a bed for himself out of being a Sarcasm Prince among the sarcasm-greedy.  He's not funny, he's desperate on a personality level, he's not someone I watch or even respect, nor never have.

Crowder appearing on his broadcasts would have quickly shown-up Stewart because Crowder, unlike Stewart, is actually funny, has not based his reports and comments on sarcasm and the humiliation of human beings (which Stewart has done), and Crowder appearing on any Stewart broadcasts would quickly show any audience tuned-in that Stewart isn't funny, he isn't insightful, he isn't inventive, he isn't creative, while Crowder is all that. 

120 Okay, I read the explanation for "clapper."

I think my program of brane-cell reduction is working, coz I still don't get it.

I think a "clapper" is one of those things that helps you turn off the lights from your craftmatic adjustable bed.

121 "...there is a whole generation to whom Stewart's show IS the news..."

That "whole generation" reveals itself in our nation's dive in achievement levels, intellect and plummeted conditions.  What our nation has today is a "whole generation" of people who think Stewart is funny, that he reports "news" and a number of other failed assumptions and beliefs many of them hold. 

122 I remember back in 2004 David Letterman had a couple running gags. For Kerry, he would have someone edit his speeches so it made him sound dumb/crazy/whatever. For Bush, he would just play a clip of one of his speeches. Get it? So Lettermen had Stewart on. It was right after he played an edited Kerry clip, and Letterman was still chuckling at it. He tried to get Stewart to comment on it, but Stewart just went straight to Bush gags. (This may have been after that Kerry interview by Stewart. I wasn't a rightie like I am now, but good God that "interview." Stewart asks a question, Kerry gives an answer. Stewart "pretends" that Kerry flip-flop and yells A HA!, but then pretends that it was actually a reasonable answer. Bleh.)

123 To be honest, while I've agreed with Crowder's points, I've never found Crowder to be that funny either.

Honestly, Breitbart is funnier than Crowder, and he isn't a comic.

As for the "really talented" quote by the Daily Show producer, they say that about every one they reject.

Evan Sayet has been funny.  That guy who talked about Obama's ears and how the MSM treats him as developmentally disabled was funny too.  I can't be bothered to look him up on Youtube though.

124 Jon Stewart.

Funniest clown in Patheticville. Quite the accomplishment.

125 I can yell and make faces, too bad most young people don't see teh funny in trashing commies and eco-fucktards, cuz there sure is plenty of ready material kicking around.

126

Ace, thank you for pointing out how unfunny Stewart is.  His funniness is a myth, like that of the horribly unfunny Tina Fey.  Have you seen her show?  Wow, that's hilarious...make another kooky-racist Tracey Morgan skit, and then have Puffy-Baby Baldwin attempt to curb his rage for another zany good time, while I put my head in the oven here...shit, it's electric. 

I want you to watch the documentary "American," about Bill Hicks the anti-American comedian who is also the darling of the left and the America-hating world. Wait until you get to the part where he finds himself wildly popular in the UK, hating on America to the applause of packed halls.  What a great person!  What a splendid...American.  The doc was made by Brits, of course. 

127 Just a suggestion, but any conservative appearing on the Daily Show should keep a clown nose in their pocket, to indicate John Stewart's shtick.

128 Nice post, and good comments.  Agree with above that Breitbart should be the guest commentor - but then he'd overshadow Stewart so badly . . . . . . . it wouldn't be tolerated.

129 I am very busy. I saw a Honey Badger, so...USA, Fuck Yeah!!!!

130 Preach it Ace. If you want to know what things are "safe to hate", just watch The Daily Show and little Jonny Liebowitz will let you know.

131

I am glad to know that I am not the only one who doesn't get the whole Jon Stewart thing.  He is as irrelevant to the political conversation as Anthony Weiners towel is to the gym prick pics.  And I don't find him nearly as funny as he thinks he is.  Contrast.  Dennis Miller is funny in a "my friend's drunk grandpa" kind of way and he is actually very knowledgable about current events.  Jon Stewart is funny in a "my dog just took a loose crap on my white carpet" and does not even have a grasp on reality.

 

My $0.02 only.   

132 Crowder was funny at one time.  I am a huge fan of the Peace Prize song.  He's just too whiny and kind of screams when he's trying to get a point across.  If he toned it down a tad, he might be watchable again.

133 Stewart is funny. It's easier for those on the right to see this on the rare occasions where the guest is not in politics, or on the even more rare occasions where Stewart is funnin' on Democrats. Last night he essentially said that, in their anti-Palin zeal, the media validated everything Palin ever said about them. It was a very funny bit. It wouldn't have been out-of-place on these pages. He also went after Weiner again.

134 I seriously know people who would be completely in the dark about the news of the day if it weren't for tosh.0

As for Stewart, I think Treacher summed it up best.  Clown nose on, clown nose off.

135 Lefties don't find Dennis Miller funny anymore. They did when he was a liberal in the 80s.

136 You like me! You really like me! Wingnuts.

137 Stewart's appeal is not magic, nor is it humor. It's flattery. Stewart knows how to to let his audience in on the joke (while explaining the joke in terms an amoeba could understand) in such a way as have them feel smarter for agreeing with him. Feeling smarter than someone else is like cocaine to many people and like heroin to a liberal.

138 I like Crowder, he's genuinely a funny guy. That said Stewart, Colbert, et al. aren't a public accommodation, and they owe conservatives no more air time than I owe them blog space. At a certain point we have to stop bitching and moaning about the meanie media and create our own.

139 Additional note on Stewart.  I gag a little bit every time he makes appearances on other shows.  For Maddow's interview,  MSNBC would have had you believe they were opening Sarah Palin's safe or something.  Her schoolboy gushing throughout the interview (which I thankfully heard on the radio and spared my eyes the horror, the horror), was stomach churning at best.

Even appearances on O'Reilly require the crack Fox graphics team to conjure up some flashy new logo for it.  And of course O'Reilly uses snippets of said interview for filler for the rest of the week.

But to be fair, do I gag when I empty the litter box.

140 Ace, he's friends with Weiner, d-bags of a feather...

141

Stewart is not funny.  He's a smug, pretentious asshole who pretends at funny in order to appeal to the mindless MTV generation.  I was always unable to watch his bullshit mockery of a show.

Last election, when kids started saying they get all their news from The Daily Show, I just about lost all hope for the future generations of this country.  These kids will never wake up when they are coddled by entertainment into their fully enclosed liberal cocoons.  They won't watch "real news," but regard hacks like Stewart and Colbert as gods among men.  eugh.

Why do conservatives and Republicans want to cozy up to these people?  To make themselves cool?

Why do people always want to be accepted by the bitchy popular cliques?  Here is some advice:  Start your own!

Rebel!  Say, "no more!"

Doesn't anyone watch those feel good teen movies where the mousy kids rebel against the popular groups and win out in the end?  It won't happen in the real world, but we could always try.

Instead, the conservatives and Republicans are willing to lie back and think of England, if it means they get a tiny in with the cool kids.  "Abuse us," we say, "as long as you mention our names on national televison."

142 I haven't watched his show in years.Steve Carrell was still on the last time I watched.I don't give a fuck what he says or does.

143 139 I like Crowder, he's genuinely a funny guy. That said Stewart, Colbert, et al. aren't a public accommodation, and they owe conservatives no more air time than I owe them blog space.

At a certain point we have to stop bitching and moaning about the meanie media and create our own.

Posted by: iowahawk at June 14, 2011 07:56 PM (veL4N)

This.  A whole lot more concise and coherently put than my own rabid screed above.

144 All I really know about Stewart is that, among the people I know, his biggest fans are the most incurious and ignorant dullards.

145 In order to really know funny you have to have at least a passing familiarity with smart.
The decided lack of the latter which Stewart so obviously shares with his audience, disqualifies each for the former.
 

146 Umm.. this is a little disturbing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Crowder Steven's article is slated for deletion because some hack decided he wasn't important enough. Dude, the guy's hosted multiple episodes of a cable television show (Red Eye) on top of his existing career as a pundit, commentator and columnist.

147 Does this mean we won't be seeing one of his infrequent conservative-neutral clips posted in the sidebar?

148 Half the commenters on this blog are funnier than Stewart. He's famous because he's a somewhat self-deprecating out and proud liberal who slams Republicans but acts like he doesn't. Fuck him and his shit flinging simian audience, who are only slightly smarter than Bill Mahers', which is like saying the Vikings were less bloodthirsty than the Mongols.

149 Damn. I don't comment much but that was a righteous rant, Ace. Spot on.

150 I second Ferguson. I've seen Crowder live as well as certain of his set pieces online. Crowder isn't funny; he's incidentally witty.

Where I saw him live was in Houston's July 2009 Tea Party, and he stunk up the joint with clapper shite like "Obama is a photo negative of Alfred E Newman".

Crowder's best work has been "I Gots a Peace Prize" and the Detroit documentary. The first was like Idiocracy: a biting and effective satire, but not something you could really laugh at. The documentary of course wasn't even supposed to be funny.

At this point I'd say the Right needs him in a John Stossel / Breitbart capacity. He should host investigative reports. Keep him out of comedy.

151 Ace, he's friends with Weiner

Roommates even, NTTATWWT.

152 In response to: As guests? Or as a regular correspondent doing 'special' reports? Posted by: Dave C at June 14, 2011 06:08 PM (eEUFS) and Yeah, who is a conservative pundit employed by the Daily Show? Or are they Dave Weigel "conservative pundits" maybe? Posted by: buzzion at June 14, 2011 06:13 PM (oVQFe) The actual email from The Daily Show producer was explicitly about having Crowder on as a guest. From the start of email, emphasis mine: I did receive everything and have reviewed the material. Steven is definitely a talented guy, but unfortunately not the right guest for us. We get pitched lots of people, but with only four guest slots each week, the booking process is very refined. They didn't want Crowder on as a guest. Period. What's the big deal? They do have conservative guests. I know this and I don't even watch the show on tv, just have seen clips online.

153 iowahawk: "At a certain point we have to stop bitching and moaning about the meanie media and create our own."

While true, the bigger picture is the default taken that liberal shows -- even "news" shows delivered as comedy -- are nonpartisan. It's the same path we grant too freely, and consequent via years of indoctrination, to the MBM. We went decades under the illusion that information was unbiased to the point that Walter Cronkite and Dan Rather were the faces of journalistic integrity. We were ignorant because the conduits were restricted and controlled. And now more of us know better. We've become sophisticated about their regulated craft.

And that's the offense. Not that they are biased (everyone has them)... but that they claim to be that which they are not: unbiased. They should be out and proud and argue from principle rather than disguise their bias and have that bias perpetuated as fair, straight down the middle analysis delivered either as news or as comedy. The real fault with us is to accept the premise that these outlets are fair and nonpartisan. Only after killing that myth first will we decide that that media is to be either disregarded or, better yet, circumvented through a novel, "conservative" media.

154 I hate Jon Stewart, but he is a funny dude. And, more importantly, he's an influential dude. Many on the right hope for his occasional swipes at the left like a one-night-stand chick waits for a return phone call because ... they know the mainstream media watches him. And they care what he thinks. His fellow lefty media-types really don't want to be in his cross-hairs.

155 Thanks for saying this, Ace.  I don't watch the guy except for clips and everyone I've seen reaffirms why I don't watch him.  He's a con man.  I often wonder why conservatives put so much stock in him.

156 What's a Clapper Comic? A person who tells "jokes" which are nothing more than moronic insults that generate, not gales of laughter, but sycophantic applause.

157 Just DVR Red Eye with Greg Gutfeld. p.s. if you want to watch Stewarts occasional swipe on a lefty, just watch youtube clips. Saves time.

158 42 Nothing to add because every point is exactly right. I'll admit to liking Colbert, even though I know he's not with us either. But he's quick; I mean, he comes up with some funny stuff on the spot...and he *will* go where the comedy takes him. It's more like the Simpsons in that although you know where they stand, they won't dance around something that's funny if it hits liberals, either.

Holy fuck, I'm late to the thread. Nobody is still here, but the point still needs to be made:

You've got it mixed up. Stewart is a leftist hack but still a comedian who will go where the comedy takes him.

Colbert is a useless cocksucker who deserves all the bad things in the world (and only him). These Anthony Weiner jokes are, literally, the first sustained and serious jokes he's made about a Dem in the six years of his show.

For the general population: Stewart has always been liberal and never appeared not to be. He is more even-handed than that cockholster Colbert.

159 ???fire balloons tamas wells

160

I don't watch Jon Stewart but I think it is kinda funny that he knows Weiner and gave money to Weiner's campaign.  Tells you what he knows about politics right there.

The Onion News on the IFC channel is funny.  And of course South Park.  Red Eye is good.  Heck, there is a lot of funny here at the AoS.

161 John Stewart sucks donkey...