February 03, 2011

Kaus Suggests Reason For Obama's Rise In Popularity
— Ace

This is actually the reason. Many of us saw this coming, or at least the likelihood of it.

Call it the "catharsis theory."

Let's say you have a girlfriend (or a wife, or husband). She's really bugging you with ... oh, say her profligate spending! You drop hint after hint and she doesn't stop. Finally, after the latest credit-card bill arrives, you blow up. You yell at her for half an hour. You cut her credit card in half. She puts forward a vigorous, all-too-familiar defense but then seems to accept the new situation.

What happens after that? I'd say you feel better about her almost instantly. You've made your point. You've set up some restraints to limit future damage, spendingwise. Hey, there were always lots of things you liked about her! She knew what they were. Now she knows what you don't like about her. Maybe she'll change.

Then, as the weeks go by, she doesn't go on any more spending binges! She seems to have learned the lesson.

...

Once [the credit-card cutting-up that was the 2010 elections] was over, they liked Obama better, without him having to do anything. In fact, his approval rating in the polls started to turn around almost immediately, in November when he still appeared to be figuring out how to react. (Daley wasn't named until January, for example.) He'd been administered his lesson.

If, as the weeks pass, he seems to have actually learned the lesson, he'll only become more popular. Voters don't have to know anything about his chief of staff, under this theory. They don't care that Biden's new top aide is the former head of the centrist DLC. They don't have to like Jeffrey Immelt or crave "green" cars or think "win the future" is an inspirational phrase. They just have to sense that Obama has stopped doing that thing that pissed them off.

Yup, that's it.

Takeaway? People still like the idea of Obama, but not the real Obama. So long as Obama is backed into a ceremonial corner and thus not doing much, they can pretend the idea of Obama is the real Obama.

I guess the tactic must be to confront him early and often and make him lay down markers showing where he stands -- the real Obama, the one people don't like.

I continue to think it's time to start getting personal, and start talking about Obama in terms, as I said before, of "cowardice" and "betrayal." Because the poll number still seem to indicate that 50% or so of the country still basically likes him, even if they don't like what he does, and that will cause them to give him a pass on all his misdeeds. As people do for their friends and family.

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1 fu52

Posted by: Artruen at February 03, 2011 12:53 PM (L+dBi)

2 Only time will tell.

Posted by: Vic at February 03, 2011 12:55 PM (M9Ie6)

3

Ugh. Imagine finding out that she was spending and whoring around. You take away the money but she's still a whore.

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 12:56 PM (K7E8H)

4 Isn't this kind of true of any President?  It's like the Presidency is a meter centered at "5"; it can deflect in one direction or another based on bad or good things he does, but if he hasn't done anything big lately, it's just stuck on "5" (read "50%).

Posted by: ParisParamus at February 03, 2011 12:56 PM (aOpxx)

5 "Socialist", "radical left winger"

Posted by: Cherry π at February 03, 2011 12:56 PM (+sBB4)

6 1. He won't change
2. People are stupid

Posted by: shibumi at February 03, 2011 12:56 PM (OKZrE)

7 Except he hasn't stopped.

So stop obsessing over his chances next year, and let's focus on the work actually in front of us NOW.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 03, 2011 12:56 PM (ZJ/un)

8 His popularity has gone up because with the election over pollsters have stopped screening for registered and likely voters.  Every poll showing him at 50 or above is of adults.

BTW Gallup today has him at 48, among adults.  +

Posted by: Jon at February 03, 2011 12:57 PM (Xt7UU)

9 Human Rights Watch:Egyptian security encircled/detained up to 12 Amnesty Internat'l, HRW,& other human rights wrkrs,took them away in bus.   Bummer.

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 12:58 PM (K7E8H)

10 Might explain why the Wrong Track is at 56% and Obama is at 50%.

Posted by: soothsayer doing his part to smear Obama at February 03, 2011 12:59 PM (uFokq)

11 Why you do makeup sex to me?

Posted by: hu jintao at February 03, 2011 12:59 PM (2rOwc)

12 It also helps that blacks still support him like by 93%.

Posted by: Dr. Heinz Doofensmirtz at February 03, 2011 01:00 PM (bT0ZC)

13 How about the whole thing is a steaming pile of horse shit???

Posted by: Portnoy at February 03, 2011 01:00 PM (azgo2)

14 Sad, but that sounds like the direction of my marriage......I need to do some cuttin.

Posted by: Sponge © at February 03, 2011 01:00 PM (UK9cE)

15 What if your girlfriend's a dirty whore who gave you VD? Sure she stopped fucking around but, you know, you got VD.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 03, 2011 01:00 PM (45DBC)

16 I still think that many people don't want to admit they don't like him because they don't want to be wrongly accused of being a racist. 

Posted by: runningrn at February 03, 2011 01:01 PM (ihSHD)

17 Obama is hardly ever criticized by the Republicans. And the media never challenges him or criticizes him. Of course he's gonna remain popular.

Posted by: soothsayer doing his part to smear Obama at February 03, 2011 01:02 PM (uFokq)

18

Because the poll number still seem to indicate that 50% or so of the country still basically likes him, even if they don't like what he does, and that will cause them to give him a pass on all his misdeeds

I'm as pessimistic on the direction of our country as anyone here (think a huge chunk of the electorate are basically sheeple), but I don't expect OWaffle to be around 50% for very long.

He will be in the low 40s at this time next year I suspect. This economy isn't getting better, and after the post election bounce, he has no where to go but down.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at February 03, 2011 01:02 PM (A0VTZ)

19 At least there's video now of this guy. Before it was all halos and unicorns.

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 01:03 PM (K7E8H)

20 I like the idea of being personal with Obama, but he also needs to be defined politically, and relentlessly. He was popular because he was able to be all things to all people. When this is taken away, he is correctly viewed as a far left pol in a center right country. See 2010. Its basic, but can be coupled with the personal strategy outlined a few days ago to keep his campaign on its heels for 2012.

Posted by: Valerie Jarrett at February 03, 2011 01:03 PM (BKOsZ)

21 The question is moot.

Posted by: $5 a gallon gasoline at February 03, 2011 01:04 PM (GTbGH)

22 Dams leftover sock!

Posted by: MJ at February 03, 2011 01:04 PM (BKOsZ)

23

Talking points memo: CIA Official: Obama Was Warned of Egypt Instability Late Last Year

Obama: I said unicorns! Not camels!

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 01:04 PM (K7E8H)

24 Put the legislation to make GHGs off limits to EPA in the debt ceiling bill

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 03, 2011 01:05 PM (tvs2p)

25

 analogy fail - Obama hasn't stopped fucking us.  Not for a minute.

Posted by: garrett at February 03, 2011 01:05 PM (jB/TO)

26 Yeah, it's like a kid with a drug problem whose parent blows up at him. Then the parent starts to think, "Well, I feel bad about yelling at him, and he said he'll give going straight a try, so let's give him a pat on the back and some space to work. Then we'll check back." Then you find that he went right back to doing drugs right after you yelled at him. I give these poll numbers until the first gallon of $4.00 gas gets pumped, then it'll be like discovering the stash hidden in the basement.

Posted by: joncelli at February 03, 2011 01:05 PM (RD7QR)

27 Oh frak. I can't spell, or figure out who I am today. Have fun tonight, everyone.

Posted by: MJ at February 03, 2011 01:06 PM (BKOsZ)

28

At least there's video now of this guy. Before it was all halos and unicorns.

Good point.  Even if one of the retreads get the nomination (Mittens, TPaw etc), if they run and competent campaign, and use the all the ample amunition available to them, I think they probably win. 

It won't get any better for OWaffle than 2008, when everything went right for him.  Shave off 2% or so from that outcome, and he loses.

Oh, and Palin or Shuck isn't the nominee.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at February 03, 2011 01:06 PM (A0VTZ)

29 What is so likeable about Barry? I keep hearing that Barry is personally likeable. Why? He's a petty, egotistical, narcissistic, smug, corrupt, arrogant douchebag. What is so likeable about him?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 03, 2011 01:07 PM (1Jaio)

30 Let me explain to you what the definition of "is" is.

Posted by: Bubba Clinton at February 03, 2011 01:07 PM (GwPRU)

31 Stash?

Posted by: Hippie Dude at February 03, 2011 01:07 PM (BKOsZ)

32 What is so likeable about him? ------------- Nothing. It's the IDEA of him.

Posted by: MJ at February 03, 2011 01:08 PM (BKOsZ)

33 I'd like a big cardboard figure of him on the girl's bike for my front yard.

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 01:08 PM (K7E8H)

34 A wife that tripled the PERMANENT spending of your household? Not sure "I'm sorry" would cut it. You need spending cuts.

Posted by: t-bird at February 03, 2011 01:09 PM (FcR7P)

35

Nothing. It's the IDEA of him.

This seems to be how many women view their candidates and dating aspirations.  heh

Posted by: Delta Smelt at February 03, 2011 01:09 PM (A0VTZ)

36 If this economy is still in the toilet next year, Obama will be too.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 03, 2011 01:10 PM (TMB3S)

37

Nothing. It's the IDEA of him.

How sick is that? His 1/2 inauthentic blackness compels people to ignore the real person. Shallow.

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 01:11 PM (K7E8H)

38 This seems to be how many women view their candidates and dating aspirations ---------- Actually that's a great analogy. Who gave them the right to vote, anyway? /sarc

Posted by: MJ at February 03, 2011 01:11 PM (BKOsZ)

39

What is so likeable about Barry? I keep hearing that Barry is personally likeable. Why? He's a petty, egotistical, narcissistic, smug, corrupt, arrogant douchebag. What is so likeable about him.

 

He isn't likeable and it's not about him being likeable.  He represents America finally getting over its White Cracker Racist past.  It's the idealism of overcoming racism, (insert trite cliches, false aphorisms, etc).  He's black.  That's why he must be admired and fawned upon. 

Posted by: runningrn at February 03, 2011 01:12 PM (ihSHD)

40 Huh? In this scenario, the "girlfriend" has proposed to cap her profligate spending at the exact level the caused you to freak out in the first place, and shown no other sign of having either heard or understood (or having the mental capacity to understand) your admonishment that money does not grow the fuck on trees.

Posted by: Waterhouse at February 03, 2011 01:12 PM (3YYhR)

41 Call it the "catharsis theory."

Let's say you have a girlfriend (or a wife, or husband). She's really bugging you with ... oh, say her profligate spending!


I don't buy this.  Spending was not Barky's biggest offense.  Not even close.  Kaus seems to forget the World Traitor Tour, which would, in this analogy, be your wife going up and down the street, turning tricks, and bad-mouthing you to all of her johns.  That's a little trickier to forgive. 

Now, if one can somehow pretend it never happened ...

Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 01:12 PM (N49h9)

42 How sick is that? His 1/2 inauthentic blackness compels people to ignore the real person. Shallow. ---------------- It seems a lot of people just think he's cool. He's not a hipster douchebag (which many people like), but he's closer than most Rs.

Posted by: MJ at February 03, 2011 01:13 PM (BKOsZ)

43 It also helps that blacks still support him like by 93%.

96% in the last election.

Posted by: Vic at February 03, 2011 01:13 PM (M9Ie6)

44 I continue to think it's time to start getting personal, and start talking about Obama in terms, as I said before of "cowardice" and "betrayal."

Perhaps Boehner could kick the effort off between weeping sessions and the 19th hole?

Posted by: Barbarian at February 03, 2011 01:14 PM (EL+OC)

45 Anyone else have trouble with the sitemeter thing taking forever to load and not allow you to comment till it's done?

Posted by: Rocks at February 03, 2011 01:14 PM (Q1lie)

46 What exactly is the <i>idea</a> of Obama?

A black guy as president?  A sin eater to absolve us of our collective culpability as a "racist society"?

It is sad that so many ordinary, reasonable people would be so eaten up with the lies of the left that they would be emotionally motivated to vote for a candidate on that basis alone, and to support him in his role as president provided he doesn't actually do anything once he gets there. 

Judging someone on the basis of race is racism, regardless of whether that judgement is positive or negative. 

Obama is a man.  The color of his skin is as relevant to his job as president as his bowling average. 

I've never been enamoured with the idea of electing someone to office simply because they are a member of an arbitrary identity group.  It is the individual who runs for office, not their tribe.  Neither do I believe that his skin color grants him special immunity from honest criticism. 

But this is precisely what the left wants us to believe. 

The left wants to pretend that his being black makes him somehow better or more legitimate (call it affirmative action applied to public office), and they want to pretend that any criticism of him is "racism."  They are the racists, and they should be treated accordingly.

Posted by: Lee Reynolds at February 03, 2011 01:14 PM (/gY4D)

47  The question is moot.

Posted by: $5 a gallon gasoline at February 03, 2011 05:04 PM (GTbGH)

 

I agree.

Posted by: 18% Unemployed at February 03, 2011 01:14 PM (N2GVy)

48 Yes. Very insightful.

Posted by: maddogg at February 03, 2011 01:14 PM (OlN4e)

49 A wife that tripled the PERMANENT spending of your household? Not sure "I'm sorry" would cut it. You need spending cuts.
No, silly. You'll just have to get a second third job!

Posted by: mrs president b.h. obama at February 03, 2011 01:14 PM (2rOwc)

50

I think his worst easily demonstrable offense is cramming health care down America's throat while the economy is tanking.

Once people realize it ain't getting better, they will blame him.  This is how it always goes.  Black or not, it won't change in 2012.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at February 03, 2011 01:15 PM (A0VTZ)

51

Who gave them the right to vote, anyway? /sarc

Moronettes are smart. I have to say that in my own life, I know perhaps 4 women that are more than remedially informed. Even the conservative women grasp the basics but have little detailed knowledge.

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 01:16 PM (K7E8H)

52

Barky is currently defying a court order. I'm not sure pointing that out would qualify as getting personal, but having more than a handful of influential folks doing so would be a start.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at February 03, 2011 01:16 PM (dKCBV)

53 1. Get in his face and those of his supporters.
2. Laugh at and ridicule his asinine ideas.
3. Point out that an "Eleven-Dimensional Chess Master" can only muster promoting a 19th Century transportation idea.
4. Point out that his laws for all are being waived ad infinitum for his favored few.
5. Point out that their "Constitutional scholar" hasn't an elementary school student's grasp of the Constitution.
6. Point out that he and the dimbulbs are the party of death, both for the unborn and for the elderly.

No one said we had to play nice ...

Posted by: ya2daup at February 03, 2011 01:16 PM (HmCnI)

54 I continue to think it's time to start getting personal, and start talking about Obama in terms, as I said before, of "cowardice" and "betrayal."

Bingo.  And anti-American.  And people can easily supply an endless list of the sordid details to support these labels, all day long.  But almost no one does.  They still like to talk about how they think he's trying to do good for America.  LOL.  Morbid laughs.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 01:16 PM (N49h9)

55

When the youts of this country spend most of their time playing video games and texting each other and when they see The Big O on TV he is portayed as awsome. Even pot head Charlie Sheen is so popular!

Posted by: Hous Bin Pharteen at February 03, 2011 01:17 PM (nRF6+)

56 I give these poll numbers until the first gallon of $4.00 gas gets pumped, then it'll be like discovering the stash hidden in the basement.

Maybe, but Chuckie Schumer will stick his ugly mug in front of the cameras, and demand an inquisition about why big oil and George Bush are colluding and screwing the little guy again.

Posted by: pep at February 03, 2011 01:17 PM (P18+/)

57 I will say that it had no effect on my attitude toward fukkin' Zero. I still despise the socialist ground he desecrates with his presence.

Posted by: maddogg at February 03, 2011 01:17 PM (OlN4e)

58 Not really buying this theory. It ends in divorce as much as makeups.  But then again I don't think Obama's number's are significant.  Bush was sure to lose in 2004 by the numbers.

Posted by: Rocks at February 03, 2011 01:17 PM (Q1lie)

59

It seems a lot of people just think he's cool. He's not a hipster douchebag (which many people like), but he's closer than most Rs.

Again, Giant cutout of Obama, mom jeans, helmet, girls bike.

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 01:18 PM (K7E8H)

60 Even pot head Charlie Sheen is so popular! -------- Hey, he likes me best!

Posted by: Cocaine™ at February 03, 2011 01:18 PM (BKOsZ)

61

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 05:16 PM (K7E8H)

My experiences jibe with yours.  Chicks here are different.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at February 03, 2011 01:18 PM (A0VTZ)

62 What's the menu for the White House SuperBowl party with J-Lo? Just curious what my kids will be paying for.

Posted by: USA at February 03, 2011 01:19 PM (YZISw)

63 Again, Giant cutout of Obama, mom jeans, helmet, girls bike. -------- I actually thought about that when I was typing. The perfect antidote, eh?

Posted by: MJ at February 03, 2011 01:19 PM (BKOsZ)

64 What if your girlfriend's a dirty whore who gave you VD? Bitches get stitches.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 03, 2011 01:19 PM (hZOPt)

65 Obama's act is not going to work come debate time, come campaign time. Then I HOPE there will be a candidate who will be pointing out his MASSIVE SHORTCOMINGS. He will not be able to hide behind ceromonial duties. "Mr. president, if your health care bill was so great, why did you hand out so many waivers exempting people from it like big business and big unions?"

Posted by: Dan at February 03, 2011 01:19 PM (mXBxH)

66

Moronettes are smart

Sadly they're the rare exception to the general rule.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 03, 2011 01:20 PM (pLTLS)

67 Hey, he likes me best!
He's ours, bitch!

Posted by: high- and moderately-priced call girls at February 03, 2011 01:20 PM (2rOwc)

68 Oh, I forgot -- pass and send to him piecemeal bills chock full of spending cuts that deny him the opportunity to shut down the entire government if he vetoes them.

And $36 billion isn't enough, Pubbies!

Posted by: ya2daup at February 03, 2011 01:21 PM (HmCnI)

69 52% is the answer to all questions right now. They like him. They vote. And you are stuck with them.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 03, 2011 01:21 PM (BHlIL)

70

Once people realize it ain't getting better, they will blame him.

I hate to think how long that will take if they're not unhappy with him already.

Posted by: Annabelle at February 03, 2011 01:21 PM (4kxCX)

71 A sin eater to absolve us of our collective culpability as a "racist society"?

Nice.  Stealing it. 

Posted by: pep at February 03, 2011 01:21 PM (P18+/)

72 Barry is in the pocket of Wall Street and the Banksters.

The Fat Cats love this guy.

Posted by: possible shouting points at February 03, 2011 01:22 PM (GTbGH)

73 25

 analogy fail - Obama hasn't stopped fucking us.  Not for a minute.

Posted by: garrett at February 03, 2011 05:05 PM (jB/TO)

 

You're telling me!

Posted by: That Chicken at February 03, 2011 01:23 PM (F+Y9Z)

74 Code Pink is conspiring with Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood to exterminate the Joos and establish a worldwide Caliphate.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 03, 2011 01:23 PM (SJ6/3)

75 12 It also helps that blacks still support him like by 93%.

Posted by: Dr. Heinz Doofensmirtz at February 03, 2011 05:00 PM (bT0ZC)





There aren't enough blacks in the country to make that much of a difference, numbers-wise; we've killed to many of ourselves off, both before birth and long afterward.

Posted by: baldilocks at February 03, 2011 01:23 PM (T2/zQ)

76 At this very moment, with the situation in Egypt, we know damn well that he's waiting to see which side wins out before he'll commit to any (ineffectual) action. Call him out for cowardice and lack of conviction.

Posted by: ya2daup at February 03, 2011 01:23 PM (HmCnI)

77

Posted by: Annabelle at February 03, 2011 05:21 PM (4kxCX)

I know what you mean.  Look, it doesn't speak well of our country's direction that he was able to get his party's nomination, much less get elected.

As down as I am on our future, in the short term I do believe short of an economic miracle or a disastrous choice in our own nominating process, he will be defeated in 12.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at February 03, 2011 01:24 PM (A0VTZ)

78 I continue to think it's time to start getting personal

It's impossible for any Republican to win a relative status game (which is what elections are) vs. a fictive projection of half of Americans' self-image as perfected super-beings who deserve to rule you.

Palin's the only one who could have—and she very briefly did—because her counter-fiction is the right one. But they gave her another one. And it stuck, because America sucks.

Obama's, too, is stuck. Same reason. And no one has the countervailing media power to alter it.

So unless some unbelievable hell rains down at exactly the right time (do you want that?) and the GOP nominee (it has to be after the nomination, so the voters' identification can change immediately) is puttin' out heavier Mussolini vibes than Obama can (Run Rudy Run!), '12 is lost.

Choose a sacrifice, not a candidate. Don't strategize. Just walk up the volcano.

Posted by: oblig. at February 03, 2011 01:25 PM (xvZW9)

79 There aren't enough blacks in the country to make that much of a difference, numbers-wise; we've killed to many of ourselves off, both before birth and long afterward.


Add in all the illegals/sympathizers and you're talking about bigger numbers......

Posted by: Sponge © at February 03, 2011 01:25 PM (UK9cE)

80 Kinda OT....

Some planet or something is outta whack because this just came up on AOL'S welcome screen:

Why We Still Love The Gipper

Reagan left the world safer, the nation
more prosperous and 30 years later,
Americans still see themselves in him.

Celebrating 100 years
---------------------------------------------------

They have a link to his speeches and a link to sites that honor his legacy.

Of course, they threw in this too, "Son:  Dad wouldn't agree with GOP"

Posted by: Tami at February 03, 2011 01:25 PM (VuLos)

81
Now, if one can somehow pretend it never happened ...

Forget what?

Posted by: The MFM at February 03, 2011 01:25 PM (xh6BY)

82 ("image" is the filtered word there)

Posted by: oblig. at February 03, 2011 01:25 PM (xvZW9)

83 Obama's act is not going to work come debate time, come campaign time. Then I HOPE there will be a candidate who will be pointing out his MASSIVE SHORTCOMINGS. He will not be able to hide behind ceromonial duties. 


Posted by: Dan at February 03, 2011 05:19 PM (mXBxH)

 

Trust me on this.  Dear Leader will not be debating anyone during the campaign. 

Posted by: 18% Unemployed at February 03, 2011 01:26 PM (N2GVy)

84 34 A wife that tripled the PERMANENT spending of your household? Not sure "I'm sorry" would cut it. You need spending cuts.

Posted by: t-bird at February 03, 2011 05:09 PM (FcR7P)

I guess it would depend on how tight that booty really is.

Posted by: Johnnyreb at February 03, 2011 01:27 PM (NNrYJ)

85 WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE? Since his election dozens of my friends and family and work contacts have gone from loving the guy to despising him.

Posted by: CAC at February 03, 2011 01:27 PM (Gr1V1)

86 4% of 13% aint much.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 03, 2011 01:27 PM (SJ6/3)

87

I think the best we can hope for is that they'll say one thing to the pollsters and do another when it comes time to vote.

People know we can't take another four years. Sure, they won't admit it in their inner circle and at dinner parties. So they'll either vote for the Republicans and hang their head in shame or stay home.

That's my hope.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 03, 2011 01:28 PM (pLTLS)

88 68 Oh, I forgot -- pass and send to him piecemeal bills chock full of spending cuts that deny him the opportunity to shut down the entire government if he vetoes them.

And $36 billion isn't enough, Pubbies!


Harry Reid has predictably said he feels the new proposal is "unworkable". Another thing--I have also heard the Rs have to write a new budget this spring.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 03, 2011 01:28 PM (sZ+lP)

89

Since his election dozens of my friends and family and work contacts have gone from loving the guy to despising him.

You sure know a lot of assholes.

Posted by: maddogg at February 03, 2011 01:28 PM (OlN4e)

90 My college boy says the students have all turned on Barry,  because he's not lefty enough!

Posted by: toby928™ at February 03, 2011 01:31 PM (GTbGH)

91

WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?

If we are talking about the mushheads in the middle who vote for a different party every year, I'd say it is urban/suburban SWPL, some hispanics, and those impressionable broads.

 

Posted by: Delta Smelt at February 03, 2011 01:31 PM (A0VTZ)

92

George Will once made a good point about Frank Robinson; when he got hired as manager of the Cleveland Indians, it was important, because he was the first black man to manage a major league team. But even more important was when he got fired a couple of years later, because it meant a black manager was like every other manager; held to the same standards, and thus doomed to get fired if the team didn't do well.

It seems to me we have a lot of middle-ground voters who felt good about voting for a black man in 2008. Convincing those folks to fire the first black president strikes me as pretty tough to do no matter how bad the economy gets. But if they can be convinced of that essential truth that Will is talking about...

Posted by: Dennis at February 03, 2011 01:31 PM (952/e)

93 You fucked up.  You trusted me.

Posted by: Barack Obama at February 03, 2011 01:31 PM (zgZzy)

94 Also, I think people may give Obama what they feel is "another chance", because they feel bad that he "didn't get enough time to do anything real". So, the 52% might give him the 2nd term because they feel he deserves another chance. Idiots.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 03, 2011 01:32 PM (sZ+lP)

95 In part it is because people (and the MBM) continue to focus on what he says and not on what he does. His talk is all soothing and let's work together, while his actions are to crush/cheat/destroy the economy and our remaining world prestige.
 
You really can't know someone thru their words but you can make judgments based on their actions. Ebola gets a consistent pass on his actions instead.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 03, 2011 01:32 PM (h0RtZ)

96 There aren't enough blacks in the country to make that much of a difference, numbers-wise; we've killed to many of ourselves off, both before birth and long afterward. That's 11% of the population that you can GUARANTEE will vote D nationally. And because of their geographic dispersal among northern cities, that puts the electoral votes of states like MI forever out of reach. We'll never crack that voting bloc. Always Bet On Black.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 03, 2011 01:32 PM (hZOPt)

97 New riots breaking out, more citizens on foodstamps, and the market still moves up. Just a matter of time until this stock bubble pops and it won't be good.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at February 03, 2011 01:32 PM (c5RQr)

98

 What is so likeable about Barry? I keep hearing that Barry is personally likeable. Why? He's a petty, egotistical, narcissistic, smug, corrupt, arrogant douchebag. What is so likeable about him?

Nothing.........I met him during his run for the US Senate from Illinois.  At an event to meet voters he was rude.  Really rude.  It was depressing to watch that campaign roll on and the party of stupid hand him a victory.

The only thing we have going for us, is that he wants to be "doing" things.  He is not going to spend the next two years eating arugula and waygu and feeding his tapeworm.  He is going to have to continue breaking things in order to be happy, and when he is happiest is when he does the most damage to the rest of us.

Posted by: Boots at February 03, 2011 01:33 PM (neKzn)

99 The president will be re-elected in a landslide because too many people are afraid to be called racists.  We may never have another cracker POTUS!

Posted by: Robbie Gibbs at February 03, 2011 01:33 PM (zgZzy)

100

He's the Affirmative Action guy, and all whites look askance at the AA Token, figuring if he does no harm. i.e. praise him him while he does no work, then it's easier to work around his smeg-ups when they do happen.

We're too polite (and thin-skinned) as a society to criticize a non-prison record black man.

 

Posted by: Twinkle Toes at February 03, 2011 01:33 PM (EFXaX)

101 Why We Still Love The Gipper

Reagan left the world safer, the nation
more prosperous and 30 years later,
Americans still see themselves in him.

Celebrating 100 years
---------------------------------------------------

They have a link to his speeches and a link to sites that honor his legacy.

Of course, they threw in this too, "Son:  Dad wouldn't agree with GOP"
Posted by: Tami at February 03, 2011 05:25 PM

Here's the article with the interview where Young Ron buries the needle on the Bullshit Meter.

He's a middle aged spoiled brat momma's boy who nobody likes, not even the Hollywood socialists he's still trying to please to get that acting career he always thought was his birthright.

Funny that this douchenozzle STILL has no problems with his lefty buddies who say his father caused AIDS, homelessness, wanted to start WW III, and was a happy idiot.

He's Meghan McCain without the fat tits

Posted by: King Barry I at February 03, 2011 01:33 PM (vdfwz)

102

As down as I am on our future, in the short term I do believe short of an economic miracle or a disastrous choice in our own nominating process, he will be defeated in 12.

I hope you're right because waiting on stupid people to come to their senses?  I don't have that kind of time.

Posted by: Annabelle at February 03, 2011 01:35 PM (4kxCX)

103

We're too polite (and thin-skinned) as a society to criticize a non-prison record black man.

 

And that's why we keep kottowing to the Dems!

Posted by: The GOP at February 03, 2011 01:35 PM (zgZzy)

104

We'll never crack that voting bloc. Always Bet On Black.

I found it interesting that the DNC decided to hold its convention in Charlotte.  Blacks/transplants helped OWaffle win a normally GOP state.  With the census and places like Indiana probably out of play in 12, they really need to win again there.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at February 03, 2011 01:35 PM (A0VTZ)

105 Young Ron, Meghan, and Little Barbara Bush, wherever you are out there ...

FUCK YOU TOO !!!!

Posted by: Lt Col Frank Slade at February 03, 2011 01:35 PM (vdfwz)

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 03, 2011 01:36 PM (TUpD9)

107 Actually, for all the hangwringing about Obama''s rise above 50%, it looks to me like that wave has crested and he's settling back to pre-tax cut deal levels.  Perhaps the Egypt issue is reminding folks of the incompetent nature of the Obama Administration.

Gallup today: 48/45
Ras today:  47/53

The scary thing to me is that he can maintain these levels of approval in the face of nine and a half percent unemployment over two years into his Administration, which began at 7.5 percent unemployment.  truly amazing.

Posted by: AHFF Geoff at February 03, 2011 01:36 PM (5r0Tz)

108

You've set up some restraints to limit future damage,

Only your wife can't put moratoria on offshore drilling just because she wants your gas to cost $5.00/gl,  won't file lawsuits against states for doing doing the job she was supposed to do, wouldn't have her EPA impose job-killing regulations which will also cause consumer energy rates to spike..

...you know..shit like that

Posted by: beedubya at February 03, 2011 01:37 PM (AnTyA)

109 106 Chinese KFC Crushes Obama With a Giant Fish Sandwich         Mooch-elle crushes my groin with her fish sammich every Saturday.

Posted by: Barry Ogabe at February 03, 2011 01:37 PM (zgZzy)

110

Full disclosure - I am not a fan of Kaus. So tell me the last time Kaus was right about anything.

Posted by: AJ Lynch at February 03, 2011 01:38 PM (werZm)

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 03, 2011 01:39 PM (sZ+lP)

Posted by: Barry Ogabe at February 03, 2011 01:39 PM (zgZzy)

113 The scary thing to me is that he can maintain these levels of approval in the face of nine and a half percent unemployment over two years into his Administration, which began at 7.5 percent unemployment.  truly amazing.

You're welcome.

Posted by: MFM at February 03, 2011 01:40 PM (GTbGH)

114 97 New riots breaking out, more citizens on foodstamps, and the market still moves up. Just a matter of time until this stock bubble pops and it won't be good. Posted by: Flapjackmaka at February 03, 2011 05:32 PM

Zero Hedge says, and I agree, that Helicopter Ben will print money till the presses burn out to feed the stock market bubble that Goldman Sachs jiggers with its high speed trading computers

The barbarians could be at the gate, and Helicopter Ben would still be making sure that the happy faces on Bubblevision could wear their Dow 15,000 hats and urge you to BUY BUY BUY

Posted by: kbdabear at February 03, 2011 01:40 PM (vdfwz)

115

He's Meghan McCain without the fat tits

 

Ummm, let me put in my two cents!


Posted by: Ron Reagan Jr.'s Manssiere (Because sometimes we men need a little support) at February 03, 2011 01:41 PM (ihSHD)

116

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 03, 2011 05:39 PM (sZ+lP)

Can Texas hold two egos that big?  Ok I know the interview isn't in TX, but still.  OReilly will do his usual fugazi tough guy interview, where he asks a solid question, gets a lame answer and doesn't follow up.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at February 03, 2011 01:41 PM (A0VTZ)

117 What's the menu for the White House SuperBowl party with J-Lo?

Sausage and cheese.

But the rest of us should just shut up and eat vegetables, because Michelle read some USDA pamphlets once, so now she's a nutrition expert.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 03, 2011 01:42 PM (TUpD9)

118

Full disclosure - I am not a fan of Kaus. So tell me the last time Kaus was right about anything.

 

I like him.  I don't agree with him a lot, but he sort of  "gets it" (for a Dem) when it comes to national security, spending, etc.  I was hoping he would beat Babs Boxer in the primary, but sadly, it was not to be.

Posted by: Ron Reagan Jr.'s Manssiere (Because sometimes we men need a little support) at February 03, 2011 01:42 PM (ihSHD)

119

Sausage and cheese

 

I plan to show J-Lo my sausage at halftime.

Posted by: Barry Ogabe at February 03, 2011 01:43 PM (zgZzy)

120

Why are we being subjected, again, to another interview with Dear Leader during the Super Bowl?  Why can't he just shut up and let us enjoy one measly day without having to listen to his lying piehole?

Sometimes I'm sick of politics and would like to enjoy some quality sports.  Why can't he act like a normal guy and just shut up and watch the game?

Posted by: Boots at February 03, 2011 01:44 PM (neKzn)

121 If this economy is still in the toilet next year, Obama will be too.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 03, 2011 05:10 PM

I already see an Obama in there just about every day.

Posted by: chalupa eating contest winner at February 03, 2011 01:44 PM (wAQA5)

122 Beedubya, You must be single. Wives have been imposing "drilling" bans since time immemorial.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 03, 2011 01:45 PM (xmuv/)

123

But the rest of us should just shut up and eat vegetables, because Michelle read some USDA pamphlets once, so now she's a nutrition expert.

 

I thought for sure that Moochelle would be inviting some of our wounded service members or the families of those who are being deployed (since she has made military families one of her supposed pet causes).  NOT!

I just hope the Mayor doesn't sit on her when he mistakes her for an upholstered stuffed chair.


Posted by: runningrn at February 03, 2011 01:45 PM (ihSHD)

124 116 Can Texas hold two egos that big?  Ok I know the interview isn't in TX, but still.  OReilly will do his usual fugazi tough guy interview, where he asks a solid question, gets a lame answer and doesn't follow up.


See, the bad thing about having so many channels is that people can just flip to something else instead of having to watch him. If that weren't the case, I think the average American would be royally ticked and annoyed at seeing this pompous windbag on TV all the time. Overexposure.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 03, 2011 01:45 PM (sZ+lP)

125 In classic Stockholm Syndrome any act of kindness on their part toward us causes us to have irrational feelings of benevolence toward our captors.


I think this is why a lot of conservatives like Kaus--he works with 'em, but he has the good manners not to call us names to our faces.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 03, 2011 01:46 PM (TUpD9)

126

"I continue to think it's time to start getting personal, and start talking about Obama in terms, as I said before, of 'cowardice' and 'betrayal.' Because the poll number still seem to indicate that 50% or so of the country still basically likes him, even if they don't like what he does, and that will cause them to give him a pass on all his misdeeds. As people do for their friends and family."

Well, here's the thing: Obama isn't friends or family.

Instead of Kaus's metaphor of a spendthrift wife, Obama is more the guy you invted to the party because he seemed really, really cool.  Only after he got to the party with a bunch of his friends, he started hassling your friends, hitting on your wife, making obnoxious and insulting jokes -- in short, he pretty much ruined everyone's fun.  And you began to hate him for screwing up your party.

So you and your friends and family held a little intervention, kicked out some of the troublemakers who he brought with him to the party, and told him to clean up his act if he wanted to keep hanging around.  And lo and behold, when he realized you'd kicked out a bunch of his friends, he stopped being so obnoxious.

At that point, you remember some of the coolness that caused you to invite him in the first place, and you decide that you don't hate him after all.  But you never forget that his self-proclaimed coolness was pretty much a lie.  When it's time to write up the guest list for the next party, are you going to invite him back?

Posted by: stuiec at February 03, 2011 01:47 PM (Di3Im)

127 The barbarians could be at the gate, and Helicopter Ben would still be making sure that the happy faces on Bubblevision could wear their Dow 15,000 hats and urge you to BUY BUY BUY Posted by: kbdabear at February 03, 2011 05:40 PM (vdfwz) ---------------- When do you think it can and will pop? I'm just not sure. Also do you think ADP is now bunk? I can not believe their jobs reports cause they're so off.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at February 03, 2011 01:47 PM (c5RQr)

128 It might be helpful if someone in the media mentioned that his mother, father and grandfather were fucking communists. And his mentor Davis was head of  The Communist Party in Hawaii and a bi-sexual pedophile ta boot.
The MFM has the right side media afraid to mention the socialist thing, give me a break. Socialist?
Some one with some stones needs to step up and out this fraudulent scumbag.
How about the LAT's  Khalidi tape.
Then maybe those fools to poor to pay attention might actually get aggravated at being taken for what they are.
There's enough dirt to bury him 60' under.

I'd do it, but I'm too busy cussing the motherfucker out 24/7.
Besides who'd listen to me? I'm a crazy, racist, ignorant gun clinging Tea Partier.

Posted by: ontherocks at February 03, 2011 01:49 PM (HBqDo)

129 Plausible, but it sure helps that he is getting by without criticism over his handling of Egypt, largely because the Republicans don't go to the media and crap on a President who is dealing with a foreign policy crisis (even though he isn't by all appearances), and of course the MBM would hardly cover it if they did.

Posted by: sherlock at February 03, 2011 01:50 PM (2DD2m)

130 I think some women had a sexual fantasy about him. Hence the screaming and fainting. Maybe some of the novelty has worn off. However, the girl's bike and hopefully our having a candidate that has more sex appeal than elmer fudd would help. Women are that shallow, not mornettes, but women. Hell, moronettes would jump Chris Christi if he keeps slapping teacher unions around.

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 01:53 PM (K7E8H)

131

I was in church this weekend and this woman was breastfeeding her baby.  And old lady came over and said, "You should be ashamed of yourself, taking that thing out in God's house!"

 

In retrospect, it probably wasn't the best opportunity to mastubate.

Posted by: Truman North at February 03, 2011 01:53 PM (8ay4x)

132

However, the girl's bike and hopefully our having a candidate that has more sex appeal than elmer fudd would help.

 

And with that, I am announcing my candidacy for the GOP nomination.

Posted by: Ron Jeremy at February 03, 2011 01:54 PM (zgZzy)

133 You lost me at "cut up the credit cards," Ace.

So far, there has been a lot of shouting, but has anything been done to reign in either the free spending or lawless activity and cronyism of the Osama Obama regime?

Nuh-uh. Those few actions that have been taken -- mainly bu the courts, not Congress -- may have made him lose a step or two, but the ol' Treason Express just keeps rollin' along.

We have heard a lot of promises from the Repubs, and the Dems who got The Fear put into them in the last election...when they start delivering and the Mohammedan Mouthpiece has to retrench, I'm a believer.

Sadly, the nut of the whole thing, and the reason he stands a good chance of getting another shot at it in '12, is the simple fact that the Average White Voter has had it drilled into them that a "clean, articulate" black candidate -- or half-black, same difference -- somehow deserves their vote lest they be considered racist and un-progressive.

Posted by: MrScribbler©, yelling "Free Nickless!!eleventy!!" at February 03, 2011 01:54 PM (Ulu3i)

134

Ogabe says "[he's] got some love for the Steelers"

Seriously...what kind of douchebag talks like that?

Posted by: beedubya at February 03, 2011 01:55 PM (AnTyA)

135

When it's time to write up the guest list for the next party, are you going to invite him back?

AHA! If I'm a lib or moderate YES. Why? Because he has the STASH!

Metaphore complete

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 01:55 PM (K7E8H)

136 He's Meghan McCain without the fat tits

Posted by: King Barry I at February 03, 2011 05:33 PM (vdfwz)

He's a pathetic POS...so is the author of that article. 

Posted by: Tami at February 03, 2011 01:56 PM (VuLos)

137

but the ol' Treason Express just keeps rollin' along

 

 

Climb aboard, there's plenty of room!

Posted by: Harry Reid at February 03, 2011 01:56 PM (zgZzy)

138

Posted by: Ron Jeremy at February 03, 2011 05:54 PM (zgZzy)

What's your stand on cap n' tax?

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 01:56 PM (K7E8H)

139 I was having a spirited discussion with one of my brothers just a few weeks back about the Midterms aftermath and made much the same point - the needle moves back to the middle when this idiot stops doing the bad stuff. With the focus on Congress and while he was on vacation, the sheeple who get surveyed cherrypicked by the MBM will naturally bump the numbers up. Let it. We need to maintain OUR focus on keeping the conservatives in Congress accountable to what we sent them there to do, and the liberals progressives socialists looking over their shoulders for the coming 'torches and pitchforks'. If we spend too much of our energy focused on the White House, we'll end up doing what we've always done - allowing the MBM to influence the 'independents' 'middle' sheeple to split their vote and think they made a difference by merely replacing the face that interrupts American Idol on occasion. It is IMPERATIVE that we keep hammering home through every outlet we can that this Congress is corrupt, and do so in a manner that TIES it to Obama, so we can continue to harness the anger and passion present in the nation and not only push his needle back down, but push him back to Kenya Chicago. ; )

Posted by: goozer at February 03, 2011 01:56 PM (F1aIq)

140

Seriously...what kind of douchebag talks like that?

Ahem.

Posted by: Snoop Dogg at February 03, 2011 01:57 PM (zgZzy)

141

I am surprised Ace is taking this polls seriously. If you look at the internals of the polls that got Obama over 50% you'll find that they polled 10% more democrats than republicans and 11% more Obama voters than McCain voters. They also polled between 15 and 20% unregistered adults who don't vote at all.

Even Rassmussen was guilty of it as he had the same approval rating that the NBC poll had with an 11% bias.

The reason Obama is up in the polls is because the pollsters wanted him to be up in the polls. It keeps people interested in them and doesn't cost them anything because there is no election in the near future to prove them wrong.

Like I said though I am surprised to see ace wringing his hands over them.

Posted by: robtr at February 03, 2011 01:57 PM (hVDig)

142 Seriously...what kind of douchebag talks like that?

A douchebag on the down-low?

(Does that take a hyphen? I have no idea.)

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 03, 2011 01:58 PM (TUpD9)

143

What's your stand on cap n' tax?

 

Eliminate the tax, but always wear your "cap" when you're with a strange woman.

Posted by: Ron Jeremy at February 03, 2011 01:58 PM (zgZzy)

144 Was it the midterms or the Tuscon pep rally? Free t-shirts may push him into the next term.

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 01:58 PM (K7E8H)

145

He's Meghan McCain without the back fat tits


 

Posted by: beedubya at February 03, 2011 01:58 PM (AnTyA)

146

Yeah! Now we get to see O'reily suckin on the Big O's sausage.  He will be "fair and balanced" by doing it.  And I thought the Black Eyed Peas were going to bad on the Super Bowl.

Posted by: Hous Bin Pharteen at February 03, 2011 01:58 PM (nRF6+)

147 Hell, moronettes would jump Chris Christi if he keeps slapping teacher unions around.

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 05:53 PM (K7E8H)

Well yeah...we're not going to let him jump us!  Splat.

Posted by: Tami at February 03, 2011 01:59 PM (VuLos)

148

A douchebag on the down-low?

(Does that take a hyphen? I have no idea.)

We write it either way

Posted by: Drew, no longer on the down low at February 03, 2011 02:00 PM (AnTyA)

149

And I thought the Black Eyed Peas were going to bad on the Super Bowl.

 

It's a theme!  Black Sunday!

Posted by: FOX Sports at February 03, 2011 02:00 PM (zgZzy)

150 Is this the new Super O' now, or what?

Posted by: Hous Bin Pharteen at February 03, 2011 02:00 PM (nRF6+)

151 Dear Leader talking about his Christian faith on FNC:  "It's really difficult being Jesus".

Posted by: Soona at February 03, 2011 02:09 PM (N2GVy)

152 152 Except notice that he refered to "our faith". Never said Jesus. He never says it. If you listen closely he never never says it. It could be any faith at all........

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 02:10 PM (K7E8H)

153

Posted by: Downsized Upscale at February 03, 2011 05:43 PM (IhHdM)

Hmmm... Stockholm syndrome?

Held captive by Obama and his thugs, and some eventually identify and like him?

Posted by: Nanzy Pelnazi at February 03, 2011 02:12 PM (AdK6a)

154

Posted by: Nanzy Pelnazi at February 03, 2011 06:12 PM (AdK6a)

 

Man... this is like my 5th sock failure today...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 02:13 PM (AdK6a)

155 Except notice that he refered to "our faith". Never said Jesus. He never says it. If you listen closely he never never says it. It could be any faith at all........

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 06:10 PM (K7E8H)

 

He did say "my Christian faith the last two years.......".  But we do know that his Christian faith is the same as his psycho preacher, Jerry Wright.

Posted by: Soona at February 03, 2011 02:15 PM (N2GVy)

156

Posted by: Ron Jeremy at February 03, 2011 05:54 PM (zgZzy)

What's your stand on cap n' tax?

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 05:56 PM (K7E8H)

He's

- not soft on crime

- in favor of stiff penalties for tax evaders

- an all-around stand-up guy

Posted by: stuiec at February 03, 2011 02:19 PM (Di3Im)

157 Is this the new Super O' now, or what?

This is the third year in a row he's tainted the pregame show.

Even Don Cheadles can't even get on three years in a row.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 03, 2011 02:22 PM (TUpD9)

158 I always 'liked' the idea of a Black President.

The "It's their turn" and "It's only fair" and of course the "Maybe they'll quit claiming that all white people hate them" arguments.

I just didn't/don't like the total a55hat that got elected.

Even Powell, pompous as he is, would be better. At least Powell has executive experience and led men in combat.

Obama? He's been skatin' and slackin' for most of his life and it shows. He's gotten by on the smooth talk and the cool demeanor of a street corner wannabe-pimp pot dealer/ladies man for so long, he can't make the changes necessary to do any better.

He's also done so badly because he's had to rely on a bunch of worn out retread political hacks from the last Democrat Administration and assorted pickups who have at times been literally out of left field.

Egypt is just the latest in a long line of stumbles that are so amazingly inept and catastrophic, and that could've been seen to be so ahead of time by even the most casual observer, that we all have begun to wonder if he does this sh!t on purpose.

Sadly, no. He's not that smart. He's like a programmed robot. It only does what it's been told to do. Interrupt the flow or put something unexpected in it's way and what you get is a macabre dance of jerks and twitches while it thrashes around on the floor or collides with the furniture. Good for a laugh in reality but not when it's the Executive Officer of the most powerful nation in the world.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 03, 2011 02:23 PM (fhTf7)

159 This is why making him veto bills is an effective strategy. It shows those moderates exactly who he is.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at February 03, 2011 02:23 PM (qwK3S)

160
I applaud Ace's call for Republicans to begin attacking Obama personally, to the pain!, rather than just his policies. But can you really envision this current crowd of mealy mouthed Repubics taking this tack? HELL NO YOU CAN'T! Actually the time for that was in 2008, when he could have been beaten. However, it seems Republicans mostly will stick to the old "he means well, but his policies are destructive" line, which is a strategy that lead to defeat in '08 and will again in the next election. Didn't Sun Tzu say something about not attempting to beat an opponent by constantly complementing them?

It doesn't help when Republicans who take the fight to the heart of the enemy camp are sniped at from behind- remember, Palin was condemned by many Repubics for her "Death Panel" remarks, even receiving a rebuke by Rich Lowry in an editorial at National Review.

Anyway, I don't see Republicans taking back the White House in 2012 as the Party is split- as evidenced by Delaware, Nevada and Alaska. And I don't see the rift healing without a major fight which most likely won't be resolved in time for the next election- especially when people have been attempting to paper over the rift and hope it just goes away.

Did the Delaware GOP actually file an FEC complaint against its own nominee for US Senate? Look, a squirrel! What about the contingent of Nevada GOP who backed Reid over Sharon Angle? Bachman's a loon! It's all about her! Just what nefarious shananigans have we yet to hear about that went on in Alaska and cost us an excellent Senator in Joe Miller? It was the beard! No, really!




I'm more concerned now with taking full control of Congress with enough of a majority to pass Impeachment. Which probably never will happen.

Why would we impeach this nice young man when he obviously means well? And we know that he means well because Repubics are constantly asserting that.

Posted by: sartana at February 03, 2011 02:23 PM (+fNcw)

161 The primary reason for President Obama's relatively high popularity isn't the result of some subtle psychological or sociological phenomenon, some heretofore undocumented cathartic effect sweeping across a broad swath of the country. The President's favorability ratings stay high in spite of the ineptitude of his performance and the failure of his policies because mainstream media coverage remains overwhelmingly positive and supportive. Propaganda works. If no effective countermeasures are implemented against it, it will continue to work. The truth is, of course, the best countermeasure to agitprop, but the problem we face is getting the truth out there, to the public at large. It would help immensely if prominent GOP senators and members of congress would take a more antagonistic and outspoken stance against this man and his party. GOP politicians could, for example, start using the word 'socialist' when describing the President's policies. If they're accused of red-baiting and McCarthyism, so what? What are they afraid of, bad press?

Posted by: troyriser at February 03, 2011 02:27 PM (mU1zA)

162

Posted by: sartana at February 03, 2011 06:23 PM (+fNcw)

No, what is needed in the House of Representatives, who DO set their own rules, is a RULE that a President must proove that he is eliegable for Election BEFORE they will perform their Constitutional roll in the election.

Remember, the House must aproove of the Electoral Ballot...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 02:29 PM (AdK6a)

163

We need someone to debate this guy with no holds barred. I mean just embarrass the slutpup right off the stage. He's an ignorant, racist, lying POS who got where he is ONLY because of his color, and he's done more damage to the country than five or six Hurricane Katrinas.

We'll be lucky to survive the next two years. If we do, it won't be due to anything helpful this bastard did. If I saw this son of a whore up close and personal I'd give him the Nelson/Reid treatment in spades. He's not my president, he deserves absolutely no respect, and it's not humanly possible to hold him in greater contempt than I do.

I hope the Secret Service is doing a good job because I want to see this scumbag finally leaving the White House cursed, hated, humiliated, rejected and reviled. I want him to live a long life knowing every day just how much his country loathes him and how bitterly it regrets having ever allowed him anywhere near the Presidency. I want blacks to hate him even more because they know that his screwups mean Hell will freeze over before another black even gets mentioned as a serious presidential candidate.

God damn you Obama, the Democrat sons and daughters of whores who helped you do the damage you have, and the 52% who voted to let you and them do it. I wish the plagues of Egypt on all of you, and may you never recover.

Posted by: mac at February 03, 2011 02:44 PM (gSYTw)

164 So, what you're saying, Ace, is that Obama should be a ceremonial figurehead, our king, while John Boehner as head of parliament should be the real chief executive. Make sense to me. Relegate King Obama to meeting foreign dignitaries, and cutting the ribbon at supermarket openings.

Posted by: DelD at February 03, 2011 02:45 PM (o6aOV)

165 Takeaway? People still like the idea of ObamaCare, but not the real ObamaCare.


A small change to your statement is still true...Utopia is a wonderful thing, its just that no one has been able to do it "right."  I guess that's true of Obama himself too.

Posted by: NC Ref at February 03, 2011 02:50 PM (/izg2)

166 Sorry, Romeo13, but I'm always leery of someone promoting idiocy on a conservative forum who somehow doesn't know how to spell the words 'prove' or 'approve'. Such childlike spelling and grammatical errors are usually made by astroturfers who genuinely believe we're a pack of gap-toothed, inbred idiots. Seriously, try harder.

Posted by: troyriser at February 03, 2011 02:53 PM (mU1zA)

167 I guess that's true of Obama himself too.

Posted by: NC Ref at February 03, 2011 06:50 PM (/izg2)


The technology is in place to improve him.  Anybody got about 6 million dollars lying around?

Posted by: Lee Majors at February 03, 2011 02:56 PM (/izg2)

168
Romeo13, I'm with you all the way on that. But I don't think the current gang of Repubics will go anywhere near this issue and they'll attack anyone who does. They seem to want this to go away as much as the White House does. Remember, Eric Cantor believes that Barry's a citizen. It'll probably take much of the next two years to educate Mr. Cantor on the concept of Natural Born.


Posted by: sartana at February 03, 2011 02:59 PM (+fNcw)

169 Then she wrecks your new car and sleeps with your best friend.  That is what it's going to feel like in a few months.

Posted by: Cooter at February 03, 2011 03:12 PM (BcLJD)

170 So why didn't President Bush get any more liked after 2006?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2011 03:13 PM (61b7k)

171 I always 'liked' the idea of a Black President.

The "It's their turn" and "It's only fair" and of course the "Maybe they'll quit claiming that all white people hate them" arguments.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 03, 2011 06:23 PM (fhTf7)

Those arguments are all terrible -- counterproductive, even.  The only valid argument for electing a Black President is that the Black candidate in question is the best person for the job out of the field that's running.

Because if you start making the choice of President based on "it's their turn" and "it's only fair" and "maybe they'll quit claiming that all white people hate them," you will inevitably get someone as useless as Obama -- because no one will do the vetting necessary to weed the Obamas out of the field for fear of "racism."

Posted by: stuiec at February 03, 2011 03:27 PM (Di3Im)

172 Then she wrecks your new car and sleeps with your best friend.  That is what it's going to feel like in a few months.

Posted by: Cooter at February 03, 2011 07:12 PM (BcLJD)

And your best friend and she drink Slurpees while they watch you try to get your wrecked car out of the ditch.  I like where you're going with this.

Posted by: stuiec at February 03, 2011 03:28 PM (Di3Im)

173

The technology is in place to improve him.  Anybody got about 6 million dollars lying around?

Posted by: Lee Majors at February 03, 2011 06:56 PM (/izg2)

At Obama's burn rate, you'll need six trillion dollars.

Posted by: stuiec at February 03, 2011 03:28 PM (Di3Im)

174

Republicans need to stress to the electorate that Democrats in general and Obama in particular need to be judged by what they would do if given complete control of the government - not by what they actually do when constrained by a Republican House majority. We got a good glimpse of that for two years, and we can't let people forget what made them do such a quick 180.

Of course, that means that the Republicans also have to provide a real alternative. The "we're slightly less socialist than the other guys" strategy isn't going to work.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at February 03, 2011 03:30 PM (7EV/g)

175 I say it's the Charlie Crist polls. There was no way anybody was going to beat Charlie. They will decline when somebody has the guts to stand up and show the absurdity of Obama policies. Wonder who has the guts to do that? heh.

Posted by: lions at February 03, 2011 03:48 PM (lW97b)

176

Its like one's opinion about having dog dirt on one's shoe after slipping it off and stepping inside.  Yeah, its still a problem, but deferred.

Percentage willing to vote for a second helping never budged, still 42% and ebbing away. 

Posted by: gary gulrud at February 03, 2011 03:55 PM (/g2vP)

177

Republicans need to stress to the electorate that Democrats in general and Obama in particular need to be judged by what they would do if given complete control of the government - not by what they actually do when constrained by a Republican House majority. We got a good glimpse of that for two years, and we can't let people forget what made them do such a quick 180.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at February 03, 2011 07:30 PM (7EV/g)

Exactly, but too many people seem to forget on Tuesday what just happened on Monday.  The Indonesian Imbecile has done nothing but screw up one thing after another.  He made a total mockery and mess of our legislative processes, pushing our institutions to failure in his insane drive to shove that heaping pile of ObamaCare through.  He's made a fool of himself and America nearly every single day he's been in office ... but we still have idiots like Krauthammer who was talking about how smart the Indonesian Imbecile is as recently as a few weeks ago.  And almost none of them even dare venture into the clear area that the Indonesian is virulently anti-American.

It's amazing that someone could be so inept, stupid and incompetent, and yet, every single day is as if he just emerged anew from the womb of some tart.

Well ... when the riots are upon us, perhaps at that point some "conservatives" will get the guts to explain clearly what is seen every single day with this America-hater.  I'm not holding my breath for that, though, as guts is something that none of our politicians (save a very few that you can count on one hand) have.

Death by cowardice is the worst sort of death - and it should be.  This generation of Americans will go down in history as the most pathetic group of people ever to exist on Earth.  We have almost half who hate our own nation and culture - voting in a guy who hates us even more - and the other half are too timid and/or stupid to say what is happening, right before our very eyes.  I could give examples of the stupidity, criminality, insanity of Obama that would go on for days.  It's hard to even find a day in which Obama didn't do something exceedingly anti-American, mind-numbingly stupid, or batshit insane.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 04:04 PM (N49h9)

178 Didn't Bill Simmons of of ESPN write something like this a few years ago? I think it was after Iverson left Denver and Chauncey Billups came in.

Posted by: taylork at February 03, 2011 04:26 PM (KgWSd)

179 Apparently you elided over the first part of my comment where I said "I like the idea of a Black President".

I didn't vote for him. I think the people who did were irresponsible and/or living in a dream world. (an illusion aided and abetted by our national media).

I just could accept those as reasons to HAVE a Black President. NOT the reasons to elect one.

Now, pick apart and/or applaud the REST of what I said.

Yes/No?

Posted by: jakee308 at February 03, 2011 04:27 PM (fhTf7)

180 I don't like the idea of Obama, because I know his background and what he said before he started campaigning.

Then again, I don't answer idiot polls, either.

Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 03, 2011 04:28 PM (bxiXv)

181 Ace,  you don't get it..... the reason Obma's poll numbers are around 50% is because republicans leaders in Washington barely mention his name unless to say how they want to work with him, the media and pop culture don't criticize his handling as President or how awful the state the country is under his leadership.
 Now turn on FOX NEWS the only place where Obama is held responsible for his decisions as President and the most popular show O'Reilly goes easy on Obama and spends more time defending him then criticizing him, even so called conservative sites like HotAir, Allah Pundit spends more time mocking republicans while rationalizing, excusing Obama decisions, compare to sites like Huffington Post that makes up shit, takes everything out of context to nail republicans day in day out.

Bush was hated because democrats, the media,  pop culture , especially every 2 bit celebrity and even some conservatives, conditioned the public to blame him and hold him responsible for every ill in the world and the country.

If no one in public life from the opposition party to the media holds Obama responsible, why would the public.

Also Obama's approval will never go as low as other Presidents because he has blacks who's disapprove of him has never gone below low 90's and even Hispanic has never gone below mid 60"s but whites disapproval of him as been as lower the whites disapproval of Bush and Clinton, 35% range.

Obama's approval rating really started going up because he has no one,  republicans in DC ,  the media, pop culture placing any blame to our problems at his door step.
Once republicans won the mid terms, they only mentioned Obama name in context,  " as a partner they wanted to work with", compare to how Peolsi and Reid talked about Bush after their big wins in o6'.

 Until and unless republicans grow some balls and go after  Obama the same way democrats went after Bush, even if republicans criticized Obama after as mush as democrats Bush , Obama approval will remain in the 50's, not were it should be low 40's , ( because of minority very high numbers that's the lowest he will ever go) , but good enough to get rid of him and his god awful leadership in 2012.

That's why the media  hates Palin, she doesn't pussy foot it and goes after Obama the same way democrats went after Bush and the media who has conditioned every other republican to speak of Obama with kid gloves hates that Palin hasn't fallen into line.  Remember the hate really started after her amazing speech at the convention , where finally someone  mocked Obama and spoke the truth about what a empty , lightweight he is and how destructive his policies would be for America and the public eat it up, while the media decided she had to be destroyed.

Posted by: sam at February 03, 2011 04:47 PM (CnXRh)

182 "I continue to think it's time to start getting personal, and start talking about Obama in terms, as I said before, of "cowardice" and "betrayal." Because the poll number still seem to indicate that 50% or so of the country still basically likes him, even if they don't like what he does, and that will cause them to give him a pass on all his misdeeds. As people do for their friends and family."

I think Ace DOES get it.  That's why he wrote this last bit. Unfortunately the last folks to actually do what he's suggesting will be the Senate Republicans. Probably even "Rooster" Coburn and uh, "Minty Hall" DeMint.
It's 8 years past time when we had some Republican stand up and do a Ted Kennedy style, "Lie after lie after lie," moment.

Posted by: K~Bob always forgets to take off his sok at February 03, 2011 05:35 PM (wkJ3K)

183 "Maybe she'll change."

"Then, as the weeks go by, she doesn't go on any more spending binges! She seems to have learned the lesson."

Ha! Sucker doesn't know she's got 10 more cards just like the one he cut up. Good thing he only got the one with the lower limit, eh? The only thing he succeeded doing was fooling himself and making her become, shall we say, more creative in hiding it - just like any other addict does whose only thought is to do and say anything she needs to maneuver and manipulate until that next fix, and the next, and the next...ad nauseum, until he wakes up one day and realizes he's even hundreds of thousands of $$ in MORE debt wondering WTF happened and realizing the bitch didn't even kiss him before she f'd him royal.

Posted by: halodoc at February 03, 2011 06:24 PM (gLiPk)

184 So who can ever trust a liberal poll where they go to cemataries and poll all those zombies

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at February 03, 2011 08:23 PM (vA9ld)

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