1 The federal government has a growing interest in the eating habits of Americans for the same reason it has an interest in tobacco consumption, said Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services.

Her boss smokes.

2 Abolish HHS.  Thatisall.

3 Make Marxism illegal

4 Her boss smokes.


And drinks. And eats spare ribs and ice cream.

5 I read this story this morning but I didn't link it in the headlines thread because I thought DC overreached somewhat with the story.

Sure, eventually they will go for more control down the road, but that is not the case right now.

6 You are ALL a bunch of fatty, fat, fat, fattys!

7 Mandated stationary bicycle time driving generators will be a win-win.

Lean and Green.

8 It's inevitable that our liberal overlords will enslave us.  Get in early.

9
Wagyu for me, but not for thee.

10 Maybe Sebelius would be more pleasant to look at if she actually, you know, ate something!

What is she, Skeletor's older sister?

11 I call top bunk.

12 My comment  from THC were someone had linked this story:



When we were kids food tasted great.  I can still remember what chips, cookies, fast food fries USED to taste like.  Hell, you could eat something fatening and not eat the rest of the day because the memory of the great meal stayed with you, and you felt full.

Now, food tastes like bland shitpies and you tend to eat more because you want something with flavor and you 'forget' that you just ate that fat free, shitty tasting meal an hour ago.

I really wish  a study would be done comparing the effect of all this 'healthy oil', healthy sea salt, fake sugar, etc has on one's appetite and the amount of weight gain around the belly.

I'm always hearing from my kids, 'I don't even remember eating that.'

13 So, basically, the socialized system we've really had for years insulates people from their own bad choices and sticks others with the bill.

The problem is with the socialism, stupid.

14

And eats spare ribs

 

Watch it, sister.

15 Keep Your Laws Off My Body!!!11!When leftists say that, it's "let me do whatever I want, and since I hate your vices, you can't do anything you want"

To a leftist, "fair" is whatever benefits them and fucks you

16 >> Sure, eventually they will go for more control down the road, but that is not the case right now.

Which is why it's the perfect time to kill it.

17 GM is going to me forced to make Fred Flinstone cars soon.

Foot power - the energy of the future!

18 OT: Why isn't Barry allowed to go on expensive vacations with his wife?

19 NPR was pushing the same talking points this morning.  Did you know that happy meals are 10% of sales at McDonald's?  They made it sound like reducing McDonald's sales was the primary objective, not the collateral damage.

20 I lamented to my children that they will never know how good a sandwich made of oil packed yellow fin tuna from a can really was.

21 Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences.” –- C.S. Lewis

22 The Dems got their holy grail of socialized medicine, and you, citizen subject, have been summarily reduced to a number on a spreadsheet.

We didn't even make the spreadsheet!

23 Here's the article from THC:

Nanny State alert!  Nanny State alert!

Obama's Food Police in Staggering Crackdown on Market to Kids

Link to Human Events.

Tony the Tiger, some NASCAR drivers and cookie-selling Girl Scouts will be out of a job unless grocery manufacturers agree to reinvent a vast array of their products to satisfy the Obama administrationÂ’s food police.

Either retool the recipes to contain certain levels of sugar, sodium and fats, or no more advertising and marketing to tots and teenagers, say several federal regulatory agencies.

The same goes for restaurants.

ItÂ’s not just the usual suspected foods that are being targeted, such a thin mint cookies sold by scouts or M&Ms and Snickers, which sponsor cars in the Sprint Cup, but pretty much everything on a restaurant menu.

Although the intent of the guidelines is to combat childhood obesity, foods that are low in calories, fat, and some considered healthy foods, are also targets, including hot breakfast cereals such as oatmeal, pretzels, popcorn, nuts, yogurt, wheat bread, bagels, diet drinks, fruit juice, tea, bottled water, milk and sherbet...

...The “Interagency Working Group on Food Marketed to Children, Preliminary Proposed Nutrition Principles to Guide Industry Self-Regulation Efforts” says it is voluntary, but industry officials say the intent is clear:  Do it, or else.

“When regulators strongly suggest a course of action, itÂ’s treated as a rule, not a suggestion,” said Scott Faber, vice president of federal affairs for the Grocery Manufacturers Association.  “Industry tends to heed these suggestions from our regulators, and this administration has made it clear they are willing to regulate if we donÂ’t implement their proposal.”

(H/T Weasel Zippers)

Posted by: MWR at June 22, 2011 08:50 AM (4df7R)

24 Hey, we aren't talking about talking away your right to eat arugula!

25 7 Mandated stationary bicycle time driving generators will be a win-win.

Lean and Green.
Posted by: toby928™ at June 22, 2011 11:10 AM

That's why you wingnuts will never get it and normal people like me laugh at your bad craziness.

I might even give up Cheetohs if it will save the planet and advance the cause of government control over everything but me

26 Now, food tastes like bland shitpies and you tend to eat more because you want something with flavor and you 'forget' that you just ate that fat free, shitty tasting meal an hour ago.

My wife keeps buying these baked low fat chips that taste like dried spit wads.  I can't eat them.  I think the goal is to make food taste so bad that you can only eat enough of it to not die.

27 ItÂ’s not just the usual suspected foods that are being targeted, such a thin mint cookies sold by scouts or M&Ms and Snickers, which sponsor cars in the Sprint Cup, but pretty much everything on a restaurant menu.


When they come for my Thin Mints, all hell will break loose!

28 Did you know that happy meals are 10% of sales at McDonald's?

Everything in the freakin' Happy Meal is available on the regular menu.  If they do away with the gimmicky package, it won't make bit of difference to their sales.

29 When we were kids food tasted great.  I can still remember what chips, cookies, fast food fries USED to taste like.  Hell, you could eat something fatening and not eat the rest of the day because the memory of the great meal stayed with you, and you felt full.

The McDonalds fries with 5% beef tallow were to die for.  Muslims, Hindus and the food police put a kibosh on that.  Bastards.

30 Let's see you try and get those shackles around my fat fucken wrists.

31 And herein lies my problem with the LP and those generally associated with it.

How often do you hear Libertarians (big L) rail against conservatives for being as bad, if not worse, then liberals when it comes to personal rights? But conservatives are constrained by tradition, and liberals will flit from one authoritarian measure to another as fads change.

The only "freedom" the left will give you the right won't is the right to smoke pot. If that is the central part of your agenda, feel free to endorse liberalitarianism.

32

Speaking of Michelle, Drudge has a pic of her in Africa pulling a carrot up out of the ground. 

He also ran an article about South Africa's President, Jacob Zuma snubbing her and sending his Prison's Minister to meet her (made me wonder if he knows something we don't!).

 

Mr Zuma was out of the country for the first day of Mrs Obama's second solo trip abroad on Tuesday and although he returned on Monday night, aides said he was "not available" to meet her.

Instead, he arranged for Corrective Services Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula to greet her on her arrival in Pretoria on Monday night, and one of his three wives, Nompumelelo Ntuli-Zuma, to meet her briefly on Tuesday

 

33

They can have my Twinkie when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.

After the apocolyptic nuclear war.

34

Sooooo the Dems have a problem with me eating a whole bag of Cheese and Cracker Combos when I've had a shitty day at work, but they wouldn't have a problem if I got pregnant and decided to have the baby sucked out of my womb and diced up for stem cells.

Okay.  Good to know.

35 The McDonalds fries with 5% beef tallow were to die for.  Muslims, Hindus and the food police put a kibosh on that.  Bastards.

Posted by: dfbaskwill

And I will NEVER forgive them for that. and now with no salt on the fries, McDonalds isn't really worth going to anymore.

36 So, I can have an anal gangbang in a Frisco bathhouse and that's okay, but I can't have a quarter-pounder afterward?

37

The first Tea Party event I went to, I had 2 signs:

"Honk If I'm Paying Your Mortgage"

and

"My body, My Choice--No to Obamacare"

 

38 When regulators strongly suggest a course of action, itÂ’s treated as a rule, not a suggestion,

The primary purpose of the front line bureaucrat is to implement the suggestions of mid level bureaucrats with the iron fist of absolute rule.

39 The McDonalds fries with 5% beef tallow were to die for.  Muslims, Hindus and the food police put a kibosh on that.  Bastards.


I used to like McD's. Hell, in high school, I lived on Big Macs, fries and hot apple pies.

Now none of those items is worth the price you pay for it. You've have about a 30 second window on McD's fries, if they came fresh out of the fryer, before they get cold and too nasty to eat.

These days, my son wants to go to McD's and the answer is usually no. Not for health reasons, per se, but because it is just crappy food.

40 Didn't slave owners take great interest in the basic health of their workforce? So what else is new? We may not be slaves, but we certainly have become serfs.

41

Sooooo the Dems have a problem with me eating a whole bag of Cheese and Cracker Combos when I've had a shitty day at work, but they wouldn't have a problem if I got pregnant and decided to have the baby sucked out of my womb and diced up for stem cells.

Liberals have no sense of proportion, reason, or consistency.

/BTW, I'm preferential to the pretzel (cheddar cheese, although nacho cheese works too) Combos myself.

42 Change the flag!  Stop the pretenses.  Replace the field of stars with a hammer and sickle and be done with it.

43 Keep Your Laws Off My Body!!!11!I still remember years ago seeing an interview with some Hollywierdo.

They asked him about abortion, and it was the standard keep your laws off drivel.

Then they asked him about the environment, and he droned on and on about how we needed ever more draconian regulation of the plebes because they use too many fossil fuels and have too much stuff.

Neither the Hollywierdo, nor the interviewer, nor the news program saw the disconnect in those responses.

44 Related: Jim McDermott just went after doctors in a House Ways & Means Subcommittee on Health hearing. Apparently the government does not yet have enough control over health care to suit him.

45

And I will NEVER forgive them for that. and now with no salt on the fries, McDonalds isn't really worth going to anymore.

 

I went there last weekend and had a milkshake for the first time in many years.  It sucked!  They use to be good.  The only thing worth getting there nowadays is an Egg McMuffin.

46 he arranged for Corrective Services Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula to greet her on her arrival

I will hold my tongue so as to continue to remain unbanned

47 36 So, I can have an anal gangbang in a Frisco bathhouse and that's okay, but I can't have a quarter-pounder afterward?

Posted by: nickless at June 22, 2011 11:20 AM (MMC8r)

That depends.  Are the gangbangers circumsized?

48 36 So, I can have an anal gangbang in a Frisco bathhouse and that's okay, but I can't have a quarter-pounder afterward?
  It depends on which end you use to consume the the Big Mac. Wow, that visual puts a new spin on Big Mac.

49 Now, food tastes like bland shitpies and you tend to eat more because you want something with flavor and you 'forget' that you just ate that fat free, shitty tasting meal an hour ago.

I really wish  a study would be done comparing the effect of all this 'healthy oil', healthy sea salt, fake sugar, etc has on one's appetite and the amount of weight gain around the belly.

Posted by: momma at June 22, 2011 11:11 AM (nWikJ)

Have you ever seen the ironically named show "Hungry Girl" on the Food Network?  Try watching it sometime and see if it doesn't make you want to throw rocks at your TV.

 It's basically a show on how to swap every normal ingredient out a dish with low fat cardboard.  I watched this chick make make "fettucini alfredo" out of soy noodles and non-fat sour cream and say with a straight face to the camera that it tasted just as good as the original.

50

Make Marxism illegal

According to the Libs, Conservativism is the new Marxism.

51 My breakfast today:  red quinoa, no-sugar spaghetti sauce (TJ's, FTW), broccoli, carrots, peppers, onions, peas, water chestnuts, spices, canned salmon.  Chase with cup of black coffee with teaspoon of pure cocoa powder.

52

Related: Jim McDermott just went after doctors in a House Ways & Means Subcommittee on Health hearing. Apparently the government does not yet have enough control over health care to suit him.

 

I'll have to check that out.  He is one of the biggest douchebags in Congress, and he always gets re-elected with Castro like majorities.  His district is comprised of far left moonbat idiots. 

53 Seriously....Im ready to get the hell out. Anyone got a new island picked out for us to move to? Ive had enough of being told what I can and cant eat/smoke/drink.

54

My breakfast today:  red quinoa, no-sugar spaghetti sauce (TJ's, FTW), broccoli, carrots, peppers, onions, peas, water chestnuts, spices, canned salmon.  Chase with cup of black coffee with teaspoon of pure cocoa powder.

 

Wow.  I had a diet coke and a bowl of Great Grains with some Greek Yogurt on top. 

55

"The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog."

G. K. Chesterton

To argue that we can continue to call ourselves a free people under this level of government control is lunacy.

56 Someone put up a map from, damn I can't remember now....anyway the map had a list of the most and least "free" states. The least free states were all blue states of course.

We'll all be blue states when this regime is through with us.

BTW - who remembers who published that map?

57

I watched this chick make make "fettucini alfredo" out of soy noodles and non-fat sour cream and say with a straight face to the camera that it tasted just as good as the original.

 

Geez, I'm surprised some network news station hasn't scooped her up.  It sounds like she'd be a good spokesman for the Obama crap sandwich talking points.

58 We're back, baby!

59 Didn't slave owners take great interest in the basic health of their workforce? So what else is new? We may not be slaves, but we certainly have become serfs.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at June 22, 2011 11:20 AM (Q5+Og)

One of the central notions of the middle ages is that there was a class that ruled, a class that preached, and a class that worked. It is interesting how the left believes that there should be a class that rules, a class that talks, and then we get to work to give them all the goodies they want...

60 It will have been a couple of weeks, been working out, Sat. will be action-packed at the S.F. Free Folk festival (essentially 8 hours of 19th c. ballroom dancing), so Sunday's looking like a brownie day for me:  a very kind brownie and free time to dig into my new Yamaha GR-55 guitar synth.  Mmmm mmmm mmmm.  Don't no one tell me what I can and cannot put in my body.

61

If you don't like the new cigarette pictures like we have here in Canada, you're probably going to hate the mandatory enemas.

62

Gore is promoting population control (from the sidebar story)?

Um, he sired 4 kids, right? 

/Typical enviro-tard hypocrite. 

63

Socialism is for the people, not the Socialist......

64 Stay out of my lungs!

65

My breakfast today:  red quinoa, no-sugar spaghetti sauce (TJ's, FTW), broccoli, carrots, peppers, onions, peas, water chestnuts, spices, canned salmon.  Chase with cup of black coffee with teaspoon of pure cocoa powder.

I shit my pants after merely reading that.

66 My breakfast today:  red quinoa, no-sugar spaghetti sauce (TJ's, FTW), broccoli, carrots, peppers, onions, peas, water chestnuts, spices, canned salmon.  Chase with cup of black coffee with teaspoon of pure cocoa powder.


I had a sausage, egg and cheese breakfast taco with salsa and salt on it. And coffee with cream.

67

>> Sure, eventually they will go for more control down the road, but that is not the case right now

Right.  Because the transfat ban in NYC, the attempt salt ban in NYC, the foie gras ban in Chicago, the ban on raw egg use in CA, those are all down the road.  Oh.  Wait. 

Yeah, I'll just bring this up again:  If the government cannot tell me whether or not I can put a dick in my mouth, the government cannot tell me whether or not I can put a donut in it.

 

 

 

68

I used to like McD's. Hell, in high school, I lived on Big Macs, fries and hot apple pies.

 

Oh my gosh!  What they did to the apple pies now is criminal!  They use to be sooo tasty when they were fried.  Now they absolutely suck so bad, they can't give them away (they are always on the 2/$1.00 menu). 

69 It's basically a show on how to swap every normal ingredient out a dish with low fat cardboard.  I watched this chick make make "fettucini alfredo" out of soy noodles and non-fat sour cream and say with a straight face to the camera that it tasted just as good as the original.

Mmmm, sounds oh so appetizing!

70 Why all the hate for McD; didn't they just pump up Obama's employment numbers for him?

71
How often do you hear Libertarians (big L) rail against conservatives for being as bad, if not worse, then liberals when it comes to personal rights?

As often as you listen to them. Check out Reason magazine.

72 Speaking of fried, what's up with fried kool-aid balls??

Naaaaasty.

73 1 Egg McMuffin with extra cheese, 2 Cinnamon Melts, HotCakes with Sausage, Large Chocolate Shake.  Then stopped at Krispy Kreme to pick up a box of donuts.

74 You know, I'm so glad the the Mayan End of the World is happening next year. I am really tired of all this bull.

75
All that said, I'm amazed at all the fat kids I see these days. I went to a year-end pageant a while ago and those kids up on stage looked like a litter of pigs.

76 36 So, I can have an anal gangbang in a Frisco bathhouse and that's okay, but I can't have a quarter-pounder afterward?

A 4 on 1 gangbang is what we call a quarter-pounder.

77

Lacey, the Freedom in the 50 States Study is from the Mercatus Center of George Mason University.  And my little bitty state of New Hampshire was number one!  WOOT!

(Though we still have plenty of problems that I would very much like to see taken care of. Like, NOW.)

78

Posted by: Sumptuary Laws at June 22, 2011 11:27 AM (GTbGH)

From your link:

This frequently meant preventing commoners from imitating the appearance of aristocrats, and sometimes also to stigmatize disfavored groups. In the Late Middle Ages sumptuary laws were instituted as a way for the nobility to cap the conspicuous consumption of the prosperous bourgeoisie of medieval cities, and they continued to be used for these purposes well into the 17th century. 

 

Liberals always pretend they are looking out for the little guy, but they are really about protecting their own fat cat buddies by limiting freedom and preventing class mobility. 

79 65

My breakfast today:  red quinoa, no-sugar spaghetti sauce (TJ's, FTW), broccoli, carrots, peppers, onions, peas, water chestnuts, spices, canned salmon.  Chase with cup of black coffee with teaspoon of pure cocoa powder.

I shit my pants after merely reading that.

Posted by: garrett at June 22, 2011 11:29 AM (lh/oq)

//////

It's why at 43 I'm around 150# of pure Libertarian muscle.  (It also balances out the chicken parmigan and shepherd's pie I devour when stoned.)  But honestly, it tastes good too.

80 59 Didn't slave owners take great interest in the basic health of their workforce? So what else is new? We may not be slaves, but we certainly have become serfs.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at June 22, 2011 11:20 AM (Q5+Og)

One of the central notions of the middle ages is that there was a class that ruled, a class that preached, and a class that worked. It is interesting how the left believes that there should be a class that rules, a class that talks, and then we get to work to give them all the goodies they want...

Pretty much graduating from an Ivy League school and entering the priesthood (Federal Government) entitles you to a lifetime of ease and self importance. Too bad no souls are saved in the process.

81 >> And my little bitty state of New Hampshire was number one!

For now.

82 Never. Ever. And I mean never. Fry your balls.

83 When do we get the tobacco horror movie pics on junk food?

So in 2015, should I expect my McDonalds bag to feature a picture of an obese man crapping himself during a fatal heart attack? Maybe Obama can mandate that the food literally smell like shit to get the point across?

Will every can of Coke feature some nice rotting teeth and smell like Halitosis?

Just wondering.

Of course, the #1 source of food poisoning in America is .... spinach. (Raw + lots of surface area = happy bacteria). So by this logic the produce section should feature life-size pictures of folks barfing on themselves.

84 I can have an anal gangbang in a Frisco bathhouse

What other type of gangbangs are there in a Frisco bathhouse?

85 74 You know, I'm so glad the the Mayan End of the World is happening next year. I am really tired of all this bull.
OT - The Israelis aren't messing around;  they are preparing for the worst.   Israeli leaders test nuclear bunker in defence drill

86
Why all the hate for McD; didn't they just pump up Obama's employment numbers for him?
Posted by: Jean at June 22, 2011 11:29 AM

It's kind of a love-hate relationship.

87

Posted by: momma at June 22, 2011 11:14 AM (nWikJ)

Hmmm... you know... the Supreme Court just asserted that Corporations have Free Speech Rights last year, and so can give money to political campaigns.

If the Corporatioins DO have Free Speech Rights, how can the Feds TELL them what to say, or Print, on their packages?

88 You know what makes for a good burger I suspect?  Ground up federal regulator.  With a little Lowry's salt and a splash of lime. 

89

Either retool the recipes to contain certain levels of sugar, sodium and fats, or no more advertising and marketing to tots and teenagers, say several federal regulatory agencies.

That will be a fascinating First Amendment case. Commercial speech is protected under the First Amendment and I'm not sure how this wouldn't be subjected to strict scrutiny.

90 87 You know what makes for a good burger I suspect? Ground up federal regulator. With a little Lowry's salt and a splash of lime.

Posted by: Abiss at June 22, 2011 11:35 AM (vhJZ7)

Soylent Green, is Beurocrat!

91 Thanks, MWR.

92 71
How often do you hear Libertarians (big L) rail against conservatives for being as bad, if not worse, then liberals when it comes to personal rights?

As often as you listen to them. Check out Reason magazine.
///
Well let's note the irony (and as a disclaimer, I am a big-L Libertarian, meaning registered) - a lot of the folks here proclaiming that the Guvmint should butt the F out of what they put in their bodies think I should be sent to the gulag for ingesting one of the most popular plants on the planet (that being marijuana).  Both Liberals and Conservatives want to control what you put in your body, just for different reasons.

93

Federal Food Police, Federal Curriculum for Kindergarten thru College, Fedral takeover of Employment, Federal takeover of all banks, Federal takeover of vehicle manufacturing, Federal takeover of medical coverage, Federal takeover of everying.  If I want to have 6 cheese burgers for lunch while pounding down a 6 pak of beer, while smoking 5 cigs, while chomping down 3 chili dogs it's my God Damn business.  Uncle Sam can keep his bulbous fucking nose out of my personal life.  This President, his administration and his wife can kiss my ass 6 ways from Sunday.  I was born 60 years ago, served in our military, and as far as I'm concerned, live in a free country.  But President Shitface has other ideas..........Communism/Marxism  Communism/Marxism  Communism/Marxism  Communism/Marxism  Communism/Marxism

94 87 You know what makes for a good burger I suspect?  Ground up federal regulator.    Lots of fatty meat in them critters.

95 I picked up an Obama Bacon pack by mistake the other day--it was a dollar cheaper than regular (note the Cass Sunstein nudge of lower pricing). It was the worst thing I ever tasted. Why are they going along with it??? What are the manufacturers getting in return??

Note that the lamestream media ignores the fact that Obama and his wifey have already forced food companies to change their products.

I weep for the WSJ and our country when I see a report like this.  http://tinyurl.com/3vm2bvt

96

It's why at 43 I'm around 150# of pure Libertarian muscle.  (It also balances out the chicken parmigan and shepherd's pie I devour when stoned.)  But honestly, it tastes good too.

Parmigan, do they live in Northern Italy?

Seriously, though.  That doesn't taste good. 

Worse, it looks like something a hippie would feed their dog.

 

97 88

Posted by: momma at June 22, 2011 11:14 AM (nWikJ)

Hmmm... you know... the Supreme Court just asserted that Corporations have Free Speech Rights last year, and so can give money to political campaigns.

If the Corporatioins DO have Free Speech Rights, how can the Feds TELL them what to say, or Print, on their packages?

///

Because commercial speech receives much less protection than "political" or "social" speech.  Just did a federal brief on that against an S.F. ordinance that restricts landlords' speech rights.

98

Posted by: Massholes Moving North at June 22, 2011 11:34 AM (5Rurq)

Which is why Massholes Who Moved North will be first against the wall when the revolution comes. (Little Douglas Adams reference there).

Actually, there's a very interesting dynamic in NH right now.  On the one hand we've got a lot of libs who have moved here from surrounding states, but we've also had a really big influx of libertarians moving here in recent years.  They're constantly at loggerheads with each other. 

99
Both Liberals and Conservatives want to control what you put in your body, just for different reasons.
Posted by: SFGoth at June 22, 2011 11:36 AM

As I have said, paraphrasing the South Park creators:

Conservative social engineers buck the shit out of me. Liberal social engineers bug the fucking shit out of me. (The original quote is "conservatives" and "liberals," no social engineers.)

100 Regular: Big Mac
Super size: Meggy Mac

/ i denounce myself

101 Crazy kids through the decades.

1950's Drink Beer
1960's Have Sex
1970's Smoke Pot
1980's Snort Blow
1990's Do Extacy
2000's Vote Democrat
2010's Eat French Fries

102

Oh, and yesterday I was talking to my sister who lives in Baltimore.  She said her kid came home from school and announced that starting next year, he will be unable to buy dessert at school--the school is eliminating all dessert.  My sister looked into it, and it's a direct result of our fabulous First Lady and her "healthy choices" initiative. 

It's absolutely galling to see someone who isn't even a "government official" creating policy that's being enacted.  WTF?

103 I don't see how this ends well for the libs.  We can still hunt our own meat, so they aren't going to make vegans out of us.

104 All that said, I'm amazed at all the fat kids I see these days. I went to a year-end pageant a while ago and those kids up on stage looked like a litter of pigs.

Posted by: arhooley at June 22, 2011 11:32 AM (XPSzQ)

My kids are chunky around the middle yet they are very active, eat fruits, veggies and fast food only once a week.

I am convinced it is all the shit in food now.  They should both be skinny based on what they eat and the amount of exercise they get, but neither of them are.

We are slowly getting away from pasta and bread and prepared foods.  Hopefully that will help them.

105 see, that is my retort whenever these pro-abortion liberals take the extreme position of "IT'S MY BODY!!!11!!!!":

I'll grant you the right to do whatever you wish with your body, when you grant me the right to do whatever I wish with my body.

That usually shuts them up because they can't contemplate NOT controlling someone else.

106 103 I don't see how this ends well for the libs.  We can still hunt our own meat, so they aren't going to make vegans out of us.

Posted by: brian at June 22, 2011 11:41 AM (y05cf)

Yeah, about that...

107

Because commercial speech receives much less protection than "political" or "social" speech. Just did a federal brief on that against an S.F. ordinance that restricts landlords' speech rights.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 22, 2011 11:38 AM (dZ756)

Yeah... thats interesting... but... Why?

It says Speech in the Constitution... not some particular Type of speech.

But then, I'm somthing of a Jeffersonian when it comes to the Constitution.

108 102, so now Obama is destroying the dessert industry.

109 How long will it be before the telescreens are waking us up for our morning exercises?

110

My breakfast today:  red quinoa, no-sugar spaghetti sauce (TJ's, FTW), broccoli, carrots, peppers, onions, peas, water chestnuts, spices, canned salmon.  Chase with cup of black coffee with teaspoon of pure cocoa powder.

 

A Balanced breakfast: Two cups of coffee and two doughnuts. The second cup of coffe and the doughnuts were free, so I believe that I actually scored points here.

111 1.  Yes, my breakfast looks nasty.  You know what, *I* like it so you can go suck a McD's breakfast burrito.  You can also buy me a shot of Balvenie 12.

2.  Commercial speech does not get strict scrutiny protection. 

3.  Hippies eat like ^#@*!.  Have you noticed how fat those old hippies have gotten?

4.  Lowry's - FTW!

5.  Grapeseed oil or canola oil.  Discuss.

6.  German bread - built to withstand cat 3 hurricanes.

112 Mark Steyn could not have been more prescient. Obastardcare and the advent of socialized medicine in general will make sure everything you put in your mouth is scrutinized by legions of paper-pushing scolds. All of you folks who hate smoking but thought tobacco deserved it? You're next. It won't be outright prohibition of the food you want but rather a relentless campaign of hysteria coupled with pleas to the health of children, the unfortunate and the poor, shellacked with an increasingly smothering burden of cost compliance with a myriad of new rules. Inch by inch everything from potato chips to apples to a styrofoam tray of chicken parts will be subject to more warning labels, more regulation in production, more alarming reports and studies of Unforeseen Dangers. Your favorite things won't be illegal, just hard to find, very expensive, unavailable in any but the most exclusive and pricey restaurants... and you may not even be permitted to eat them in public. Think this is hyperbole? Peanuts on airplanes. In less than ten years peanuts will be prohibited in movie theaters, office kitchens, at picnic areas and common spaces inside condominiums.

113 The federal government has a growing interest in the eating habits of Americans for the same reason it has an interest in tobacco consumption, said Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services.

The reason is money, because three-quarters of medical-spending is driven by chronic diseases, such as obesity and tobacco-related diseases, she said.

So where's the ban on homosexuality? AIDS, STDs, and hepatitis B - all strongly associated with sphincter spelunking - cost society a hell of a lot too.

So ...?

 

114

It's absolutely galling to see someone who isn't even a "government official" creating policy that's being enacted.  WTF?

Posted by: runningrn at June 22, 2011 11:41 AM (ihSHD)

She is the Sainted Michelle Obama, wife of Teh Won and Mother of His Children.  Apparently this means she can do whatever she damn well pleases.

Her stupid $2 million "My Plate" to replace the Food Pyramid is made of the dumb.  They already TRIED to replace the Food Pyramid back when I was in school fifteen, twenty years ago.  Guess what?  IT DIDN'T WORK. 

115 Once the State can claim a vested interest in your 'health choices' it can justify (to itself) ANY law or regulation that PURPORTS to KEEP COSTS DOWN.

This will become the new ProRegressvie mantra. Replacing "it's for the CHILDREN".

This has to be stopped as the ultimate point will be to have montors 24/7 and/or being held prisoners in our 'places of residence' and 'places of labor'.

All to be mandated and regulated as OSHA does now in the workplace.

Like to build birdhouses? No can't do that as power tools are too dangerous. Own any firearms? No can't have those too dangerous. Tried to buy a steak at the Government Nourishment Center? No, your weight is over the regulated level. Want children? Your genes predict that your children will be at risk for costly diseases so the Government Birthing Center will deny your application to have children.

Think that can't happen?

THINK AGAIN!

116 Posted by: The Gun Control Lobby and PETA at June 22, 2011 11:42 AM (4df7R)


The gun control lobby isn't going to be able to completely disarm us.

And PeTA are a bunch of pussies that will run away at the sound of a dog barking.

We should just go for the throat now, and have the Republicans put the defunding of the Depts. of Education, HHS, and BATFE in every bill from now through the 2012 elections.

Oh, and defund the first Klingon too.  No way an unelected harridan gets a staff and "initiatives".

117

My breakfast today:  red quinoa, no-sugar spaghetti sauce (TJ's, FTW), broccoli, carrots, peppers, onions, peas, water chestnuts, spices, canned salmon.  Chase with cup of black coffee with teaspoon of pure cocoa powder.

 

Wow.  I had a diet coke and a bowl of Great Grains with some Greek Yogurt on top. 

Posted by: runningrn

Dunkin' Donuts and lots of coffee for me.

118

So, I can have an anal gangbang in a Frisco bathhouse and that's okay, but I can't have a quarter-pounder afterward?

Of course, the anal gangbang has no implications regarding public health whatsoever. Anybody who says different is a bigot.

119 They'll have to rip garlic out of my cold, dead hands.  I AIN'T giving that up.

120 6.  German bread - built to withstand cat 3 hurricanes.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 22, 2011 11:43 AM (dZ756)

7. Dwarf Bread - Guaranteed to take an attacking troll's head off at fifty paces, or your next rat is on the house (ketchup at regular price).

121 I had coffee and left over popcorn from last night.

122  You know what makes for a good burger I suspect?  Ground up federal regulator.    Lots of fatty meat in them critters.      That's funny!!!!!

123 @118 I think you're beginning to get the hang of it.

124

Lembas

Game, set, match.

125 Hey, you know those unpopped kernels?  Save 'em up and when you have 1/2 a bag, re-pop them.  It works (mostly).

126

Lembas

Game, set, match.

Posted by: Legolas at June 22, 2011 11:47 AM (lh/oq)

PO-TA-TOES.

127 Speaking of gubmint as MOM. "SEATTLE -- A divided King County Council has passed a measure to require all swimmers, floaters and boaters on the county's rivers to wear life vests. After passing 5-4 on Monday, the measure now goes to King County Executive Dow Constantine, who proposed it. It will take effect 10 days after the executive signs it. Council opponents called it an intrusive move by "big government." In the words of Councilwoman Kathy Lambert -- who voted 'no' -- "This council sometimes thinks it's everybody's Mom." Supporters agree with Constantine, who says it will help save lives. First-time offenders will get a warning; a second violation will mean an $86 fine. -- The Associated Press"

128 Now we know why the Dept of Education got a SWAT unit - enforce food regulations.

129 102, so now Obama is destroying the dessert industry.

Posted by: Cherry ð the unbanned

If he goes after Tastycakes there'll be HELL to pay.

130 Both Liberals and Conservatives want to control what you put in your body, just for different reasons.

Pssshaw says I, a conservative. Smoke 'em if you got 'em, SF Goth.

I've yet to see someone stoned on weed get in a bar fight or projectile vomit in the street.

131

Some days I really do wonder what is going to be left for the government to regulate.  Seriously!

"All women must wear brassieres"?

"Mandatory flossing and brushing" or face jail time?

"Registered Republicans only allowed to run their dishwashers and washing machines at midnight on days that start with the letter "F"? 

It's funny but the stuff government should be regulating and enforcing (borders, voter id, etc.), it doesn't, and the stuff the government has no business sticking its nose in, it does. 

132
Using tobacco is not just something I do, it's who I am.  When will the government start supporting my lifestyle?

133 121 I had coffee and left over popcorn from last night.

Posted by: momma at June 22, 2011 11:47 AM (nWikJ)

Cold popcorn is just... no.  It's... NO.  I get queasy just thinking about it.  I must have had a traumatic experience involving cold popcorn when I was a small child.  Spiders may have also been involved, not sure.  It would explain why the thought of a spider skittering out of a bowl of cold popcorn is currently making me break out in a cold sweat and yearn for a teddy bear to hug.

134 How can you make junk food illegal at the same time you decriminalize pot?  That's just wrong.

135 Athletic endeavors can result in various strains, breaks, chronic distresse (tennis elbow anyone?) and life threatening accidents.

Kathleen will soon be tying us to our chairs.  Exercise also costs the government too much money.  And we can't have that, now that the state owns you.

136 SEATTLE -- A divided King County Council has passed a measure to require all swimmers Swimmers. Swimmers? Swimmers. In Seattle the stupid is so deep you need a bathyscaphe to get to the bottom.

137 Heads, pikes, some assembly required.

138 134 How can you make junk food illegal at the same time you decriminalize pot?  That's just wrong.

Posted by: huerfano at June 22, 2011 11:51 AM (izDdO)

The dope smokers will just have to fulfill their munchies with carrot sticks and celery.

139 Oh, and that life vest regulation for swimmers in Seattle area rivers applies to adults, and to people floating down the river on innertubes. I've gone tubing on rivers. The sight of a bunch of adults on an innertube flotilla with life jackets on is laughable. If you are an adult, and you are too stupid to know the difference between a part of the river that has strong current, and a river or section of a river that is calm, you are probably going to die from your own stupidity anyway. So why slow the process?

140 Putting telescreens in every home and having mandatory workouts can't be long in coming.  Victory Gin for everyone! 

141 Maybe Sebelius would be more pleasant to look at if she actually, you know, ate something!

What is she, Skeletor's older sister?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 22, 2011 11:11 AM

Nope.  Not related.

142 Huh. I'm no fan of high fructose corn syrup, but that's just because I think stuff tastes better with cane sugar. They're probably going after HFCS because of the spiking food prices caused by our stupid flirtation with corn derived ethanol, hoping that by reducing one they can offset the other. Either that or they just want money.

143

Posted by: runningrn at June 22, 2011 11:49 AM (ihSHD)

Sadly, what we are seeing is an outgrowth of the size of Government.

Its simple.  Too many people were hired by the Government, and must now find somthing to do.. they MUST continue to increase the size and scope of Government to not only get promotions, but to keep their jobs.

Heck, there was a study put out by Congress last year that about 100 Billion a year is wasted by Government by Agencies who do the same things... it had a LOT of specifics in it, yet NONE of that info has been acted upon...

144 Kathleen will soon be tying us to our chairs.  Exercise also costs the government too much money.  And we can't have that, now that the state owns you.

Posted by: Derak at June 22, 2011 11:52 AM (CjpKH)

Don't forget -- sitting is as dangerous as smoking!   Everyone will be required to spend 95% of their day hopping on one leg, with the leg switched every half hour to avoid overworking those muscles.

145

The dope smokers will just have to fulfill their munchies with carrot sticks and celery.

Posted by: MWR at June 22, 2011 11:53 AM

When are they going to make a carrot that tastes like Doritos?

146 My Presidential slogan: An Orgasm in Every Pot

147 Teach First Grade students about cross dressers, ass bangers and buggering, lezbos, flamers, and haunching in general... perfectly okay.  Slap a french fry into your mouth....Federal Felony, sent to prison for 20 years.  Welcome to the United States of America.

148 The sight of a bunch of adults on an innertube flotilla with life jackets on is laughable. Uh oh, the King County council had better enact another ordinance pronto. You know what people relaxing in innertubes do? That's right. They pee in the pristine waters. With such pollution, bathers must be forced to wear leakproof diapers.

149 When are they going to make a carrot that tastes like Doritos?

Posted by: huerfano at June 22, 2011 11:55 AM (izDdO)

Some crafty entrepreneur will figure it out. 

Then Obama will claim it was his idea, throw the entrepreneur in jail, and sell the Dorito Carrots in trendy boutiques for exorbitant prices, because the stoners WILL NEED them.

150 I'm on a plane tomorrow for Brazil for 8 days of gorging on Brazilian (aka Argentinian) free range beef. With any luck, I'll put on 10 pounds. Eat me, Barry. Maybe I'll get a Brazilian wax job while I'm there, look for my pics.

151

Council opponents called it an intrusive move by "big government." In the words of Councilwoman Kathy Lambert -- who voted 'no' -- "This council sometimes thinks it's everybody's Mom."

 

I love Kathy Lambert.  She is one of the 4 members on the Council that are Republican, the other 5 are Democrats.  She and Reagan Dunn are the only ones though, that seem to have any clue.  Pete Von Reichbauer and Jane Hague are RINO's who often side with the Dem.  Jane Hague is also fricking clueless.  (So of course she's my rep.)

 

152

 Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baronÂ’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences.” –- C.S. Lewis

 

Short version:  Do-gooders will torment you til you die.

153 138 134 How can you make junk food illegal at the same time you decriminalize pot?  That's just wrong.

Posted by: huerfano at June 22, 2011 11:51 AM (izDdO)

The dope smokers will just have to fulfill their munchies with carrot sticks and celery.

Posted by: MWR at June 22, 2011 11:53 AM (4df7R)

///

LOL, while I'm a dope-eater, I do enjoy carrots and hummus the day after.  TJ's creamy hummus, FTW.

154 Put these Food Fascists on tv and when questioned they'll say they're only concerned about YOUR health, they certainly aren't control freaks out to regulate your life, no no, that's scare stories by Fox News and Glenn Beck

"Oh no, no one is going to confiscate your salt shakers, that's just scare tactics! We only want to educate people on eating healthy!"

Look at any menu from the White House Party nights, and it's just chock full of items the food nazis want to deny us serfs

155 Look at any menu from the White House Party nights, and it's just chock full of items the food nazis want to deny us serfs Again, it's never so blatant that they will actually ban anything. They just make the targeted items so expensive and inconvenient that it becomes unavailable to only but the very rich and powerful, i.e., the ruling class like Barry and the high rollers who bankroll his ilk. I've heard (from a Ricochet podcast, so caveat emptor) that John Boehner smokes in his office; if true, is it defiance or privilege? I think I know which.

156

 Breakfast this am was a scrambled egg sammich on a sourdough bun, with hickory smoked bacon, and a generous bit of jack cheese in the eggs.

  Not going to get hot and bothered about what I eat, it's always in moderation. So the gov't can kiss my ass about how I live my life, and if it wishes to monitor me we'll have a small discussion about why that is a poor decision on their part.

157 I cook up my bacon in an iron skillet, but usually go easy on the lard. It's the same skillet I use to smash burned out compact fluorescent bulbs before I toss them into the trash.

158 My breakfast today:  red quinoa

No beef with what you choose to eat, and I certainly won't assume that you're as dumb as most bo-bo's but this quinoa fad throws me for a loop.

It popped up a few years ago with the usual claim of 'It's natural. It's healthy! It's good for you! ' I loath this secular mantra to no end.

Quinoa cannot be eaten without processing. In it's raw form it will make you sick. It has to be processed with lye. Yes, motherfucking lye!

Yes, I know olives are as well but rarely are olives accompanied by this stupid, bs idea that 'chemicals' are bad, and 'processed food' is dangerous.

159 I really wish a study would be done comparing the effect of all this 'healthy oil', healthy sea salt, fake sugar, etc has on one's appetite and the amount of weight gain around the belly. There are studies out there - search for 'whole food' websites. Cutting out processed foods, HFCS and starting to eat REAL meat, REAL butter, full fat dairy and using coconut oil (supposedly evil which surprise! Actually turns out to be good and beneficial) has changed my life. You will drop the pounds instantly. Long time lurker, first time commenter...

160 And drinks. And eats spare ribs and ice cream.

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 22, 2011 11:08 AM (5d6vv)

So? These new rules only apply to Subjects. The Crown and it's courtiers are not expected to live under these rules.

161 My understanding is that garbanzo beans can't be eaten raw either.  I like quinoa because I'm borderline hypoglycemic.  I don't eat white pasta or white rice, and rarely even the brown pasta/rice.  Quinoa is just a good veggie source of nutrients.

162

 

And drinks. And eats spare ribs and ice cream.

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 22, 2011 11:08 AM (5d6vv)

Aren't most government facilities smoke free zones? I know that they're being pig ignorant about smoking in the military. And God forbid if you have an employee health insurance plan and you smoke. Does anyone think hat these restrictions apply to the Won?

163 Traditional Oilfield Breakfast:  Two cups of coffee and five Marlboros.

164 Aren't most government facilities smoke free zones? You know, if this were a just world, we could lop off your head and pike it at the palace gates. It's OUR Oval Office, peasant.

165 He should get royalties.
That's just funny, but you can SORTA send him royalties, since if you go over there you will find a 1 day sale on dull straight razors at amazon.

166 "smoke free zones."   I don't know, but just before I got out there was no smoking, ANYWHERE on Marine bases, I think that was universal, you had to smoke in your car.

167 Traditional Oilfield Breakfast: Two cups of coffee and five Marlboros. Hah. I knew this woman who lived in Paris, and you matched her description of the fashionable Parisian woman's diet.

168
 This recalls my usaeur tour, the food at our post was excellent. The Army had the Germans do all the cooking, plus the KP shit. We ate damn good while we were on base, not so good when we played John Wayne in the woods.  Which was WAY too much.

169 The humans must be kept lean for the harvest.  Too much marbling spoils our digestion. 

170 It's a cookbook? Shit. I thought it was a cookbook. Turns out it is just the Federal Register.

171 167 Traditional Oilfield Breakfast: Two cups of coffee and five Marlboros.

Hah. I knew this woman who lived in Paris, and you matched her description of the fashionable Parisian woman's diet.     Sounds like a field Marine breakfast - except replace the Marlboros with Camels.

172 Much easier to feed us all if we are already used to a concentration camp diet when we get there.

173

Traditional Oilfield Breakfast: Two cups of coffee and five Marlboros.

Traditional Painting Contractor Breakfast: 4 cups of coffee with losts of brandy and a pack of Camels.

174 Man the dems have quit pretending to not be fascists, this is gonna be bad.

175 Long time lurker, first time commenter...

Heh.  I've always wanted to call into some show and say 'Longtime caller, first time listener' just to see the reaction.

Guess I'm a troll at heart that way...

176 Traditional Painting Contractor Breakfast: 4 cups of coffee with losts of brandy and a pack of Camels. Ah, that is the fashionable Parisian man's breakfast.

177 Pretty soon they will require penalty taxes on persons not meeting their prescriped Body Mass Index. This is a whole new revenue stream. Don't really know how they will apply it to the lardassess in the projects but I can see them pushing it.

178

Sure, eventually they will go for more control down the road, but that is not the case right now.
Vic at June 22, 2011 11:08 AM

No smoking on short airlines flights,

then no smoking on long flights,

then no smoking in terminals, except it designated smoking areas,

then no smoking in terminal period, only outside,

then no smoking on airport property,

also no smoking in all public buildings whether government or privately owned, even outdoor stadiums,

then lawsuits for smoking in condos if neighbor in adjoining condo complains,

then no smoking in your car if you have a kid in the car,

then no smoking in car period, (not all states yet)

BTW I don't smoke.  Do you get my drift here Vic?  If not we can start a conversation about removing prayer in schools in the sixties.  You can see how that one has been going or we can take your approach and not worry about the government controlling our food now.  Don't worry someday you can choose either the green or the brown Soylent.

179 Cutting out processed foods, HFCS and starting to eat REAL meat, REAL butter, full fat dairy and using coconut oil (supposedly evil which surprise! Actually turns out to be good and beneficial) has changed my life. You will drop the pounds instantly.

Processed food is good because it is usually high in calories. Cutting real butter, whole milk etc doesn't do much for calories at all. What it does is reduces your intake in cholesterol.

For example whole milk vs 2% milk 1 cup

whole milk - 150 cal, 33 mg cholesterol
2% milk - 121 cal, 18 mg cholesterol

For people with heart disease this is important because they recommend no more than 200 mg cholesterol a day. You can see that 33 vs 18 adds up quick.

180 I tried Quinoa once, because I wanted to see what it tasted like.  I like it!  It's got a nutty, earthy flavor and nice texture.  I can see it being used in a mediterranean salad such as tabbouleh.

181 George, have you ever read your namesake's "Down and Out in Paris and London"?  It'll make you stop eating in cafes.

182
SEATTLE -- A divided King County Council has passed a measure to require all swimmers, floaters and boaters on the county's rivers to wear life vests.

I'm curious, was the county hit by lawsuits after someone drowned?

183 Isn't a steak "processed food"? I mean, the cow doesn't butcher itself...

184 SFGoth, German bread is designed not for hurricanes, but for nuclear blasts: line your house with that stuff and you're guaranteed safe up to 2 megatons! Also, while your breakfast is not something I would ever willingly consume, if'n you like it, by all means eat it. I'll stick to my eggs and cereal washed down with copious amounts of milk and coffee. I can't abide food nazis of any stripe, and I know for a damn fact that just because you eat well doesn't mean you have to be an evangelical prick about it: I'm married to a raw food health enthusiast who makes me garlic chicken with a soy sauce and butter base (delicious!) and insists on getting me steak for "red meat Friday" (nothing religious, we can only afford it once a week). She is proof that libertarians can be just as insane about food as liberals, but are far less obnoxious about it. Plus, it seems to work for her, and who am I to complain about a woman who can fit into the same jeans she wore when she met me ten years and one kid ago?

185 @178 You have correctly identified the template. One day, in about ten years, we'll wake up and think how strange it was that at one time you could just walk into a grocery store and buy what you wanted.

186 Long time lurker, first time commenter...

Posted by: Rochelle, Rochelle at June 22, 2011 12:15 PM (mPxTr)

FRESH MEAT!  er... I mean... welcome...

My brother and I have the same genetic condition which can lead to high cholesterol, he has dieted, done regimented excercise, and taken medication for YEARS... I eat what I want (LOTS of meat, NO Veggys, some carbos), and excercise hard while playing at things I like to do (mountain bike, hike, Fence)...

My Cholesterol is lower than his... and I don't have the side effects from all the meds he takes...

Its all just a crap shoot anyway... some of this stuff statisticly helps only a couple % points of the population get a couple of % points less chance, of getting somthing only some % of the population gets.....

 

187 Posted by: Ohio Dan at June 22, 2011 12:34 PM (a2k/N)

That's why I said down the road they'll go for more. I just though that DC overreached with the hype on this one. They screamed like the government was stepping in and actually dictating what people could could not eat.

If we treat everything like the sky is falling pretty soon people will start ignoring the real ones.

And yes I am fully aware of how they do this shit. I was around when they still had cigarette commercials on TV and a pack of cigarettes was a quarter (and even then mostly taxes).

188 @181 Oh yeah, read that book. But things have changed... although perhaps not so much. Read Anthony Bourdain's "Kitchen Confidential." At any rate, the intersection between common sense and nanny statism continues to be nil.

189 Isn't a steak "processed food"? I mean, the cow doesn't butcher itself... Which is why we must regulate it into oblivion.

190 189 Isn't a steak "processed food"? I mean, the cow doesn't butcher itself...

Which is why we must regulate it into oblivion.

Posted by: Kathleen Sebelius at June 22, 2011 12:40 PM (AZGON)

We sooooo aggree!!!!! to do anything else would be udderly ridiculous!

191

175Long time lurker, first time commenter...

Heh. I've always wanted to call into some show and say 'Longtime caller, first time listener' just to see the reaction.

Guess I'm a troll at heart that way...

Lolz. I called a local talk show here one time and started my spiel with- "Hi, long time listener first time caller love your show" and the host hung up on me. 

192 If they went after my set of vibrating dildoes...my wife would declare war.

193 I know for a damn fact that just because you eat well doesn't mean you have to be an evangelical prick about it:
Posted by: Militant Bibliophile
///
I'm assuming you weren't referring to me as I have not once in this thread criticized anyone's meal choices.  I do, on occasion, eat scrambled eggs, mushrooms, onions, and cheese for dinner -- however, the shrooms don't keep as long as the quinoa and frozen veggies, so....

194
Isn't a steak "processed food"? I mean, the cow doesn't butcher itself...
Posted by: model_1066 at June 22, 2011 12:35 PM

Here's a Penn & Teller punk I'd like to see: work a crowd with a petition to ban food that's been grown through this scientifically-touted process that induces growth in grains and vegetables by exposing them to solar radiation and carbon dioxide (aka photosynthesis).

Have you ever seen the vid of their petition on banning "dihydrogen monoxide"? "This stuff is everywhere, in our food supply, our oceans, our atmosphere!!"

195 If we treat everything like the sky is falling pretty soon people will start ignoring the real ones. There is a crucial lesson here. Did you guys listen to the interview Adam Carolla did with Breitbart? This is really important. At one point Carolla describes the erosion of freedom in terms of how the NRA battles it. He directly referenced smoking as an example of how smokers decided to just be "reasonable" and submit to each successive demand because they were, one by one, so small. Then he compares the NRA's approach. He notes no one really needs the high capacity magazine or the muzzle extension thingy or any of the incremental items that the gubmint tries to prohibit regarding firearms. Yet, the NRA just stops and says "Fuck you, we're not giving up our high-capacity magazines. We're going to argue about it and fight it." And with that, Carolla demonstrated how "being the nice guy and getting along" doomed tobacco, and the reason why the NRA is so adamant about the smallest encroachments against gun ownership. If you don't stop the little drips, they become leaks and then holes, and the boat sinks.

196 @ 187--methinks you and I are nearly the same age, Vic. My b/date was 41.

197
I've always wanted to call into some show and say 'Longtime caller, first time listener'

Haha.

198 187--methinks you and I are nearly the same age, Vic. My b/date was 41.

You're a little older than me.

199 The reason is money, because three-quarters of medical-spending is driven by chronic diseases, such as obesity and tobacco-related diseases, she said.

Proof that Dems still can't do basic math, economics, or simple logic.

You want lower health care costs? ENCOURAGE smoking and obesity.  Every person who dies at 57 of a heart attack, lung cancer, etc. is a person not going through the slow gradual decline to death from age 57 - 90. 

Which costs more?  The 57-90 range does; regardless how much the smokers/obese eat up at 57 with their "chronic" illness.  Smokers (over their lifetime, even with inflation adjusted dollars) cost LESS than non-smokers.  The obese cost less than the non-obese (to be fair, that's about a wash, not much savings either way).

For a simple easy to understand reason.  Healthy people live longer, giving them more years in which to use health care costs.

Factor SO-SO security costs in there as well and handing out cigarettes and BigMacs  is a cost effective measure for government to control spending.

200 There is a crucial lesson here. Did you guys listen to the interview Adam Carolla did with Breitbart?

Yes, I know. I would have been in total agreement with the DC if they had approached it from that standpoint but they didn't.

In any case, this is not one of those hills that I would chose to have a huge debate over either.

201 Silly winguts,

When are you going to realize that by "keep your laws of my body" I mean "think what I tell you to think about abortion and subsidize my relationship"?

When you say "keep your laws off my body," all I hear is that some wingnut has been allowed to erroneously think he has some kind of right to control over his body and is in need of a trip to the re-indoctrination camp.

 

202 Fortunately, though, the FDA is on this case:

203 Or maybe it's this case: FDA Requires New Warning Labels on President Obama!

204 Traditional Oilfield Breakfast: Two cups of coffee and five Marlboros.

Probably 4 Red Bulls and a joint nowadays. Good times, good times.

205 IMHO kids are fat today because their food, in large part, is paid for by the government. When people are on a budget they don't buy a cartful of Coke, Twinkies and TV dinners. They buy things that are not processed, and they make a dollar stretch. When you get a free psdd, why budget? If the food stamps run out, there's always the many food banks.

Look at the old movie, Hoop Dreams. Not one overweight person in the entire ghetto where the kids lived. Not one. Their parents were not all on food stamps yet.

206 The Dems got their holy grail of socialized medicine, and you, citizen subject, have been summarily reduced to a number on a spreadsheet. Posted by: Andy at 11:02 AM Zombie explained this well in an article a couple years ago: Why America Hates Universal Healthcare An excerpt: Bad diets Who among us hasn’t looked on in horror at the grotesque dietary intake of the average American? Donuts, white bread, lard, Coca-Cola, pork rinds, preservatives, sugar, grease and artificial coloring. Little toddlers drinking sweet sodas instead of milk. Teenagers eating junk food instead of brain-building food. Nary a fresh vegetable in sight. Health nuts like me spend our lives trying to treat our bodies like temples, and provide good examples for everyone else; but it’s hard to compete with intense cultural pressure to eat the worst imaginable foods. As above, under normal circumstances I would sigh in mystification and let other people go their merry way, killing themselves with bad food. Yet once I start to ponder the overwhelming society-wide medical costs of keeping millions of unhealthy people alive for decades and decades, my anger grows. I want to ban advertisements for unhealthy foods on TV. I want to outlaw donuts. I want to tax McDonald’s to cover the full environmental cost of their products. I want to do all sorts of quasi-fascistic things that normally I would never advocate. Because that’s what socialized medicine does: it turns each of us into a little fascist. A nagging nanny who tells other people what to do and how to live. Do we want that kind of society? I don’t. If you look at other countries with socialized medicine, Great Britain being the most glaring example, these invasive and oppressive government dictates have already started to circumscribe people’s freedom, with every kind of potentially dangerous activity or unhealthy comestible being declared forbidden — for the good of society as a whole. We call it “socialized medicine,” but in the end it pushes us toward fascism.

207 SFGoth, definitely not referring to you! Sorry, should have been more explicit: if anything I was implying that you were not an evangelical prick regarding food and I was likewise trying not to be. What we put in our bodies is no one's damn business but our own, and while you and I are miles apart with regards to taste buds, I'm glad as all get out that you enjoy your food and that I enjoy mine. Bon appetite!