November 04, 2011

Langone on OWS: Grow Up Already You Big Babies
— andy

Former NYSE Director and Home Depot co-founder Ken Langone puts NYT/CNBC dweeb Andrew Ross Sorkin some f'n knowledge about the rabble in Zuccotti Park.

"The kids downtown, I'd view them as babies in adults' bodies," Langone said in a live interview. "I don't think they know what they want to be when they grow up."

...

"The generation of children in public schools in America today is the first generation that's going to have a lower literacy rate than the previous generation," Langone said. "There are jobs all over, but you need to be able to count."

Langone wrapped up his lesson for the young whippersnapper thusly:

Let me tell you the biggest down side of the welfare state. We are taking the self-respect of these people away. During the depression, my grandfather who went to -- he left school at 6 years old and he had a shovel in his hand his entire life. During the depression, my grandfather refused to go with what was called home relief. Refused it. He said, no, I'm gonna go out and work. I see taking away people's dignity by them believing they're living off somebody else. and that's the biggest -- that's the highest price we're going to pay over the long term.

And then he went down to Zuccotti Park and told the protesters to get off his damned lawn. Not really ... but I'm sure he wanted to.

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Watch the whole thing. It's chock-full of goodness.

One of the topics they bring up hear the end is "income inequality", on which Michele Caruso-Cabrera had the killer line: "there used to be no income inequality in China because everyone was poor. This is a tradeoff you accept for growth and freedom." Bingo!

Jimmy Pethokoukis also had a couple of good columns on this topic today. The first is on the OWSers' and Obama's (BIRM) obsession with inequality and the second excerpts from a new study on the topic.

For most people, income increases over time as they move from a usually low-paying first job to better-paying jobs later in life. Some others, however, may lose income over time due to business cycle contractions, demotions, career changes, retirement, and so on. Because incomes are not constant over time, the same households do not necessarily remain in the same income quintiles. Thus, comparing income quintiles from different years is a proverbial apples-to-oranges comparison because the households compared are at different stages in their earnings profile.

To which everybody but liberal Democrats and Former Enron Adviser Paul Krugman replies, "duh."

Posted by: andy at 03:57 PM | Comments (248)
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1 It's so shiny!

Posted by: cthulhu at November 04, 2011 04:01 PM (kaalw)

2 That's fine and good but I'm pretty sure there's a rumor about Cain joining OWS so I look forward to the update for the sake of consistency.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 04, 2011 04:01 PM (9Cgdq)

3

Status whores, like the OWS rabble, don't really think much of quaint notions like the dignity of hard work.

 

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 04, 2011 04:01 PM (dWPyO)

4 Life was better when old codgers could be expected to knock some sense into those damn kids on their lawn.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at November 04, 2011 04:03 PM (ijjAe)

5 Barack Obama is a stuttering clustf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: fluffy, cat herder at November 04, 2011 04:04 PM (3SvjA)

6

Posted by: fluffy, cat herder at November 04, 2011 08:04 PM (3SvjA)

Whew!  Thank you for that.  I was beginning to worry that we were losing our edge.

Posted by: RushBabe at November 04, 2011 04:04 PM (tQHzJ)

7 Does anyone have a count of all of the OWS participants so we can figure out their real percentile.

OWS/300,000,000

If they had one million participants nation wide (which they don't!) they would be the 0.33%

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 04, 2011 04:05 PM (54F2e)

8

 I was beginning to worry that we were losing our edge.

SCOAMF puts my teeth on edge.

Posted by: fluffy at November 04, 2011 04:05 PM (3SvjA)

9 I hate to be the resident dummy, but what does BIRM mean?

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 04, 2011 04:06 PM (ycuSb)

10 Are we taking a break from The Cain Scrutiny?  [rimshot]

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 04, 2011 04:06 PM (D+phB)

11 BIRM = But I Repeat Myself

Posted by: Andy at November 04, 2011 04:07 PM (XG+Mn)

12 10 Are we taking a break from The Cain Scrutiny?  [rimshot]

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 04, 2011 08:06 PM (D+phB)

Ooooooof! Right in the gut!

Posted by: cthulhu at November 04, 2011 04:07 PM (kaalw)

Posted by: RushBabe at November 04, 2011 04:07 PM (tQHzJ)

14

"Are we taking a break from The Cain Scrutiny?"

 

Only until Perry's poll numbers drop again. Then Ace will be right back on the Cain wreck.

Posted by: GMB at November 04, 2011 04:08 PM (wY55N)

15

Wine in my glass and listening to some old school Jackie Wilson.  Iow, too relaxed to contemplate our nations decline, and the latest, greatest example demonstrating it.

I need Doc Brown's Delorean asap.

 

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 04, 2011 04:08 PM (dWPyO)

16 But like, the workers, man.

Maaaaan. Maaaaaaaaaan. The wooorrkers.

Posted by: sifty at November 04, 2011 04:08 PM (4CSeG)

17 But like, the workers, man.

The fuck do you know about work, scuzz ball?

Posted by: fluffy at November 04, 2011 04:10 PM (3SvjA)

18 16 But like, the workers, man.

Maaaaan. Maaaaaaaaaan. The wooorrkers.

Posted by: sifty at November 04, 2011 08:08 PM (4CSeG)

It's kinda funny that the professionally unemployed profess to care so much about the working man.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 04, 2011 04:11 PM (D+phB)

19 Work is hard, man.

Posted by: Jon Corzine at November 04, 2011 04:12 PM (sOXQX)

20 Another General fired. Maj. Gen. Peter Fuller calls Karzai "erratic" and has other choice words for the corrupt, inept puppet regime in Afghanistan. Fox News has the story.

Posted by: TallaBan at November 04, 2011 04:12 PM (ucERL)

21 These OWS people have been around for over forty years now, saying the same Shit and using the same methods when possible ( when someone gives them the money and organization ).

Look at the old video from Chicago 1968, man.  History repeats itself--like that Dead Frog said,  tragedy / comedy

Posted by: Aldo Moro at November 04, 2011 04:12 PM (UqKQV)

22

So in other words, GET A FUCKING JOB!

This is a prime example of why I cannot and will never look down on the folks working the fryers at McDonald's because they are working at or near minimum wage to survive.

These OWS cocksuckers want everything handed to them, buncha fucking worthless parasites.

I loathe these losers. 

 

Posted by: ErikW at November 04, 2011 04:13 PM (Hv6+A)

23 Does anyone know what the Alinsky style manual says is the preferred term for the reat of us:  workers, masses, lumpenproletariat, serfs, or suckers?

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 04, 2011 04:14 PM (i3+c5)

24 I was over there maaaan. Fighting for the corporate war machine, fascist military industrial complex maaan. Straight out of ROTC man, I was a Third Lieutenant and my Last Sergeant took a grenade for me. I never ever got trained how to fire my weapon man. They just told us to call in airstrikes on anything brown, even though Afghans and Iraqis are white maaan. The things we did maaaan, burning villages down and taking their women maaaan. I have to toke up every five minutes maaan just to wipe out those memories...... what was I talking about man? Got some munchies? Obama's the shit maaaan.........."

Posted by: Phony OWS veteran at November 04, 2011 04:15 PM (ijjAe)

25 Another General fired.

Maj. Gen. Peter Fuller calls Karzai "erratic" and has other choice words for the corrupt, inept puppet regime in Afghanistan. Fox News has the story.

Posted by: TallaBan at November 04, 2011 08:12 PM (ucERL)

Heaven forbid that one should speak the truth!

Hats off to MG Fuller.

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 04, 2011 04:16 PM (i3+c5)

26 Life was better when old codgers could be expected to knock some sense into those damn kids on their lawn.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at November 04, 2011 08:03 PM (ijjAe)

My Granddady several times wanted to knock some sense into or shit out of me. I was faster than him on those occasions. I also knew that I was then on his shitlist for awhile. God bless `em.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys, they`re ridin` shetland ponies) at November 04, 2011 04:16 PM (CxfIk)

27
Anyone who knows anything of history knows that great social changes are impossible without feminine upheaval. Social progress can be measured exactly by the social position of the fair sex, the ugly ones included.
Karl Marx

Posted by: Aldo Moro at November 04, 2011 04:16 PM (UqKQV)

28 I grew up on a dairy farm in the 50s. Learned very quick that no work was beneath me. The current cry babies should have some forced slave labor imposed upon them. It would do a world of good for their outlook.

Posted by: Ronster at November 04, 2011 04:16 PM (/ej8I)

29 Home Depot is raaacciiiist!  Protest we much!

Posted by: al sharpton at November 04, 2011 04:16 PM (+56Bh)

30 Home Depot? Never heard of it!

Posted by: charlie gibson at November 04, 2011 04:17 PM (+56Bh)

31 Crap Comcast TV feed is down in Boston and tonight is good TV night. Grrr!

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at November 04, 2011 04:17 PM (ijjAe)

32

Posted by: Phony OWS veteran at November 04, 2011

How dare you quetion the authenticity of someone wearing surplus fatigues?!?!?!

Posted by: fluffy at November 04, 2011 04:18 PM (3SvjA)

33

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 04, 2011 08:14 PM (i3+c5)

I've never read it. I'm not going anywhere near a book that is dedicated to Lucifer.

Posted by: ErikW at November 04, 2011 04:18 PM (Hv6+A)

34 Posted by: Hrothgar at November 04, 2011 08:16 PM (i3+c5) ----------------------------------- Agreed! Maj. Gen. Fuller returned $1.8 billion to U.S. taxpayers from his Afghanistan budget. Said he could have bought a bunch of stuff with that money but chose not to.

Posted by: TallaBan at November 04, 2011 04:19 PM (ucERL)

35 Gold Rush is back on Discovery. They can't possibly suck as much ass as they did last year.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 04, 2011 04:19 PM (Qjh0I)

36 I went by the OWS encampment outside of L.A. city hall today.  (Sorry I missed Arthur K!)  Actually, I just drove by slowly in my luxurious Lexus sedan, with heated seats of perforated leather, full iPod integration and a roof that keeps out the rain.  I'm pleased to report that the climate control system did a remarkably effective job filtering out all the bad smells.

The commies looked kind of miserable with their dumpy tents and soggy signs on the cool, drizzly day.  Maybe I'll hoist a Guinness to them later on.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at November 04, 2011 04:19 PM (Ys0KI)

37 It's always about us.

Posted by: Herman Cain's Pussy Posse at November 04, 2011 04:20 PM (H/kgP)

38 #35, Alinksy seemed to have forgotten that parasites require a host to survive in his shitty little ode to Satan.


Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at November 04, 2011 04:20 PM (ijjAe)

39 Did someone say @ssy">P@ssy Posse?  I need to send them some pics of my junk!

Posted by: brett favre at November 04, 2011 04:21 PM (+56Bh)

40 Good night. Those guys just about slapped that youngster upside the head, all at once. That last point about the dreaded monster of "income disparity" was pitch perfect. I give it a 10 out of 10. Of course liberals will talk to you about Sweden next, and how you can have a lower income disparity while still raising the baseline income. I think Sweden has a higher corporate tax rate, though.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 04, 2011 04:21 PM (8Zpuz)

41 32 Crap Comcast TV feed is down in Boston and tonight is good TV night.

Speaking of tv, has anyone here seen Grimm?  The promos looked intriguing. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 04:22 PM (5H6zj)

42 Posted by: ErikW at November 04, 2011 08:18 PM (Hv6+A)

can't say as how I blame you!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 04, 2011 04:23 PM (i3+c5)

43 40 #35, Alinksy seemed to have forgotten that parasites require a live host to survive in his shitty little ode to Satan.


Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at November 04, 2011 08:20 PM (ijjAe)

FIFY

Posted by: B+rry at November 04, 2011 04:25 PM (2jMZp)

44 The commies looked kind of miserable with their dumpy tents and soggy signs on the cool, drizzly day. Maybe I'll hoist a Guinness to them later on. Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at November 04, 2011 08:19 PM (Ys0KI) What I don't get is why the camping part of this thing is necessary. Okay I understand "Occupy" implies, well, occupation, but why occupy. Everyone who's been camping knows that you get pretty damn grungy after a few days away from showers. Not really the best condition to present your message. And there's the astonishing lack of shame required to actually sleep and crap in a public park. That's why whenever someone talks about the "sane" people at one of these rallies I just can't picture it.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 04, 2011 04:25 PM (8Zpuz)

45 45--you can't make a soufflé wihout some collateral damage IYKWIMAITYD!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 04, 2011 04:25 PM (i3+c5)

46 BIRM = But I Repeat Myself

Ah...thanks, Andy.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 04, 2011 04:26 PM (ycuSb)

47 45- and think about how hard Chairman Mao had to work at achiving his political objectives.    That will put things in perspective!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 04, 2011 04:27 PM (i3+c5)

48 That's why whenever someone talks about the "sane" people at one of these rallies I just can't picture it.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 04, 2011 08:25 PM (8Zpuz)

Congratulations! You're normal.

Posted by: ErikW at November 04, 2011 04:27 PM (Hv6+A)

49 Live feed to Reagan Dinner in Iowa:  http://tinyurl.com/3drxpk7

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 04:28 PM (5H6zj)

50 Occupy Detroit will be the last people left in the city if the current demographic trend continues there much longer.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at November 04, 2011 04:28 PM (ijjAe)

51 Everyone who's been camping knows that you get pretty damn grungy after a few days away from showers. Not really the best condition to present your message.

===

We all have a pungent musk, maaaaan! It's natural! We don't need your corporate soaps and shampoos that rape Mother Gaia!


Posted by: Disgusting OWS Hippie at November 04, 2011 04:30 PM (B0LGd)

52 Am I a Palinbot for listening to Heart tonight?

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 04, 2011 04:30 PM (dWPyO)

53 Are we taking a break from The Cain Scrutiny?  [rimshot]

Nice one

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 04, 2011 04:30 PM (OhYCU)

54 Butt welded pipe fitting?  Man, that sounds painful.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at November 04, 2011 04:31 PM (Ys0KI)

55 There's a good post on PJMedia about crime and OWS.

Posted by: huerfano at November 04, 2011 04:32 PM (fecOD)

56 54 Occupy Detroit will be the last people left in the city if the current demographic trend continues there much longer. Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at November 04, 2011 08:28 PM (ijjAe) A friend from Michigan was telling me that things are so bad in Detroit now that it's really hard to get fruit/vegetables. This might have been the case for a while, but damn. The only thing separating them from Road Warrior now seems to be a touch of nuclear fallout.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 04, 2011 04:33 PM (8Zpuz)

57 Squidbilies nails these hippie freaks really well. I love what Granny says to one of the dirt people when they get to close for comfort.

The whole show is only 11 minutes.

Posted by: Baroque at November 04, 2011 04:35 PM (B0LGd)

58 Am I a Palinbot for listening to Heart tonight?

Didn't Heart meltdown when she used their song?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 04, 2011 04:36 PM (78/PK)

59

Solyndra isn't the only subpoena Steadman's refusing to comply with. This ought to be an automatic, outright rescinding of OgabeCare.

Posted by: RushBabe at November 04, 2011 04:36 PM (tQHzJ)

60 Occupy GoldRush in 20 minutes!!

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 04, 2011 04:37 PM (OhYCU)

61

Seems like the OWSers are really losing steam. Baltimore, Oakland, Atlanta, San Fransisco, San Diego, Dallas and a few other cities are beginning to crack down on them.

 

They will grow more irrelevant with each passing month.

 

Posted by: CAC at November 04, 2011 04:37 PM (ws79p)

62 O/T: Has anyone heard from Jane D'Oh?  IIRC ace said he was trying to contact her by an email he *thought* was hers.  I think that was a couple of days ago.

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 04:37 PM (5H6zj)

63

Didn't Heart meltdown when she used their song?

Yeah, but I switched to Crazy Train in honor of Michelle Bachmann, Christine Odonnell, and Sharon Angle.

Sexist!!!!!!

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 04, 2011 04:37 PM (dWPyO)

64

Re Gold Rush. Love that show. Also Flying Wild Alaska (at least any scene with Ariel Tweto on it).

 

Posted by: RokShox at November 04, 2011 04:38 PM (pcly4)

65 Out: Cain Train

In: Crazy Train


Posted by: Cherry pi at November 04, 2011 04:38 PM (OhYCU)

66 Rand Paul introducing his dad (by video) at the Reagan dinner right now. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 04:38 PM (5H6zj)

67

Yeah, but I switched to Crazy Train in honor of Michelle Bachmann, Christine Odonnell, and Sharon Angle.

Sexist!!!!!!

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 04, 2011 08:37 PM (dWPyO)

Flirting with Disaster seemed more appropriate for the Nevada race.

Posted by: CAC at November 04, 2011 04:39 PM (ws79p)

68 well selena gomez broke up with justin beiber kim kardashian was seen on the town with reggie bush and jesse ventura is leaving america

Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 04, 2011 04:39 PM (SH3gZ)

69

Occupy GoldRush in 20 minutes!!

 

Dakota Fred took my gloryhole!

Posted by: Jack at November 04, 2011 04:39 PM (Gcn92)

70

They will grow more irrelevant with each passing month.

With more overt violence, and vandalism.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 04, 2011 04:39 PM (dWPyO)

71 "SCOAMF puts my teeth on edge." I have less teeth than I had before Barry's election. I shit you not!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 04, 2011 04:39 PM (AF1jB)

72 GoldRush = sub-morons

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 04, 2011 04:39 PM (OhYCU)

73 A friend from Michigan was telling me that things are so bad in Detroit now that it's really hard to get fruit/vegetables. This might have been the case for a while, but damn. The only thing separating them from Road Warrior now seems to be a touch of nuclear fallout.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 04, 2011 08:33 PM (8Zpuz)

===

It's spreading outward like a slow-motion blast radius. Have a friend who grew up in Flint in the 70's and went back for a family reunion two years ago.

He was shocked at how much the area outside Detroit had deteriorated. As for Detroit, itself, he was appalled at how much the place had fallen.

Not to overstate the case, but it must have felt the way I felt when I went back to where the WTC was after 9/11. You know how bad it was but when actually stand there, you really can't fully comprehend the amount if destruction that occurred.

Posted by: Baroque at November 04, 2011 04:40 PM (B0LGd)

74 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at November 04, 2011 04:40 PM (fyOgS)

75 gold rush i thought the old man was going to fall in the glory hole with his tractor on the season premiere.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 04, 2011 04:40 PM (SH3gZ)

76 Didn't the mayor of Detroit actually shrink the size of the city? Something about tearing down acres of buildings and actually moving the city limits.

Posted by: CAC at November 04, 2011 04:41 PM (ws79p)

77 "I'm gonna mine your gloryhole."

That's TV gold right there.

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 04, 2011 04:41 PM (OhYCU)

78 kim kardashian was seen on the town with reggie bush
I thought he already used her up once.

Posted by: Ronster at November 04, 2011 04:42 PM (/ej8I)

79 ...but until you actually stand there...

Bah.

Posted by: Baroque at November 04, 2011 04:42 PM (B0LGd)

80 Occupy GloryHole

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 04, 2011 04:42 PM (OhYCU)

81 86 Occupy GloryHole

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 04, 2011 08:42 PM (OhYCU)

Waaaay ahead of you...

Posted by: Bawny Fwank at November 04, 2011 04:43 PM (B0LGd)

82 They actually tore down whole sections of Baltimore to make it semi-liveable.

Posted by: CAC at November 04, 2011 04:44 PM (ws79p)

83

Something about tearing down acres of buildings and actually moving the city limits

I'm not sure if it got enacted but yeah, current Mayor Dave Bing (former basketball player/Piston) proposed it.

It's actually a pretty good idea, all and all, it seems to me.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 04, 2011 04:44 PM (dWPyO)

84

They will grow more irrelevant with each passing month.

Posted by: CAC at November 04, 2011 08:37 PM (ws79p)

I think you're right but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets worse before it gets better. I equate them to animals and animals get dangerous when cornered.

Posted by: ErikW at November 04, 2011 04:44 PM (Hv6+A)

85 So far, my entire time in office has been one long endless stream of soundbites and /videos tailor-made for 2012 GOP election ads.Too bad the GOP won't use any of them. Fine. They wouldn't have thanked me, anyway.

Posted by: Obama The Un at November 04, 2011 04:44 PM (FUozQ)

86

"I'm gonna mine your gloryhole."

 

I laughed until I cried.

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2011 04:44 PM (Gcn92)

87 My sweet, your glory hole could clog any man's wash plant...

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 04, 2011 04:45 PM (Qjh0I)

88

I grew up on a dairy farm in the 50s. Learned very quick that no work was beneath me. The current cry babies should have some forced slave labor imposed upon them. It would do a world of good for their outlook.

I live on a farm.

Never thought I would see the day I would find a deer leg on my lawn, dragged there by one of my dogs and say eh... and put it bare handed in a trash bag LOL.

Posted by: TypicalWhitey at November 04, 2011 04:46 PM (xeVap)

89 88 They actually tore down whole sections of Baltimore to make it semi-liveable.

Posted by: CAC at November 04, 2011 08:44 PM (ws79p)

===

Reminds me of Brazil where they paint the slums vibrant colors so as not to offend the tourists.

Posted by: Bawny Fwank at November 04, 2011 04:46 PM (B0LGd)

90 Michelle Carusso Cabrerra, now is she hot or what.

Posted by: robtr at November 04, 2011 04:46 PM (MtwBb)

91 hey barney astronomers have found the biggest glory hole on uranus

Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 04, 2011 04:46 PM (SH3gZ)

92 Off, gay lawmaker sock!

Posted by: Baroque at November 04, 2011 04:47 PM (B0LGd)

93 "The generation of children in public schools in America today is the first generation that's going to have a lower literacy rate than the previous generation," Langone said. "There are jobs all over, but you need to be able to count."

There are three types of public school graduates. There are those that can count and those that can't.

Posted by: I was educated by public union teachers at November 04, 2011 04:47 PM (BkQvr)

94 "I'm a low down connivin claim jumper"

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 04, 2011 04:48 PM (OhYCU)

95 Not sure if this is her or not but if so, I concur: she could make a bishop kick out a stained glass window.

Michelle Carusso Cabrerra


Posted by: Baroque at November 04, 2011 04:49 PM (B0LGd)

96 "The kids downtown, I'd view them as babies in adults' bodies," Langone said in a live interview. "I don't think they know what they want to be when they grow up." With the added proviso that babies don't customarily break storefront windows, mainline meth, or rape other babies.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 04, 2011 04:49 PM (IZTTb)

97 Fred gives a bad name to Dakotas everywhere.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 04, 2011 04:50 PM (Qjh0I)

98 keep your hands off jack's nuggets

Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 04, 2011 04:50 PM (SH3gZ)

99 Y-not, my husband liked Grimm. Did you see the BBC show with the kid who is the last of the van helsings? It's kind of like that, kind of like Buffy. So he says.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at November 04, 2011 04:50 PM (MyByM)

100 Get off my lawn you hippies or my foot is going to occupy your ass!

Posted by: Red Foreman at November 04, 2011 04:51 PM (oif6Y)

101 Herman Cain made unwanted advances on my gloryhole.  But, I'm under a non-disclosure agreement to not tell you the gory, greasy, noisy, climactic details.

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 04, 2011 04:52 PM (OhYCU)

102 Y-not, my husband liked Grimm. Did you see the BBC show with the kid who is the last of the van helsings? It's kind of like that, kind of like Buffy. So he says. Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at November 04, 2011 08:50 PM (MyByM) FWIW, I thought it was good enough to warrant watching the second show.

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 04, 2011 04:53 PM (i3+c5)

103 Rick talking now, but I missed the beginning.  http://tinyurl.com/3drxpk7

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 04:54 PM (5H6zj)

104 Ah, glory hole. Now you know why I persist in calling these few ratfuckers the Bowel Movement.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 04, 2011 04:55 PM (IZTTb)

105 106 Y-not, my husband liked Grimm.
Thanks. 
You, too, Hrothgar.

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 04:56 PM (5H6zj)

106 I'm confused why Rand got to introduce his dad but Michele wasn't introduced. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 04:57 PM (5H6zj)

107

Just saw Perry at the Reagan dinner.

I like what I hear!

Posted by: TypicalWhitey at November 04, 2011 04:57 PM (xeVap)

108 Can't wait to see what Cain has to say!

Posted by: TypicalWhitey at November 04, 2011 04:58 PM (xeVap)

109 That's the first prayer I've ever seen for a new glory hole.

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 04, 2011 04:58 PM (OhYCU)

110 Dana Loesch was talking to Crowder on her show today, and supposedly Crowder had an encounter at OWS with 'LotionMan' (the anti-Semite yelling at the old Jew ''you got all the money, you 'mo!") that he's going to release on Monday.

Posted by: nickless at November 04, 2011 04:59 PM (MMC8r)

111 Is Mittens at this dinner?  No way I am watching CSPAN on a Friday night.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 04, 2011 04:59 PM (dWPyO)

112 I had CNBC on this morning when they did this interview and was cheering at the tv for a change, instead of yelling at it. Kernan was especially good this morning, too.

Posted by: Retread at November 04, 2011 04:59 PM (yP19w)

113 Crazy eyes is talking

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 04, 2011 04:59 PM (OhYCU)

114 115 Can't wait to see what Cain has to say!

He and his bff Mitt skipped it.  They are both at the AFP thing. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 04:59 PM (5H6zj)

115

Never thought I would see the day I would find a deer leg on my lawn, dragged there by one of my dogs and say eh... and put it bare handed in a trash bag LOL.Posted by: TypicalWhitey

I hope you washed your hands afterwards.

Posted by: Ronster at November 04, 2011 05:00 PM (/ej8I)

116

My Gloryhole brings those Dakota boys north-

and they're like, it's better than yours,

 Damn, right. It's better than yours. 

 I can teach you but I have to charge.

Posted by: Jack Hoffman at November 04, 2011 05:01 PM (Gcn92)

117

He and his bff Mitt skipped it.  They are both at the AFP thing. 

AFP?

Isn't this dinner in Iowa?

Posted by: TypicalWhitey at November 04, 2011 05:01 PM (xeVap)

118 118 Is Mittens at this dinner?

No.  He's keynoting the AFP event.  Cain - his 'rival' (outlaw!) - is speaking at that one, too. 

I can't tell if any of the others were invited to the AFP event, but the fact that Romney is keynoting it suggests not.  The Iowa dinner is more of a real candidate forum - they're all equal. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 05:01 PM (5H6zj)

119 If you oppose illegal aliens suckling at the taxpayer teat then you are heartless scumbags and I completely abominate each and every one of you.

Please vote Perry 2012.

That is all.

Posted by: Rick Perry at November 04, 2011 05:01 PM (B0LGd)

120

Racking a shotgun has the same effect on Occutards as garlic to vampires.

 

Posted by: RushBabe at November 04, 2011 05:02 PM (tQHzJ)

121 Posted by: RushBabe at November 04, 2011 09:02 PM (tQHzJ)

Was his shotgun broken? It racked okay but was there something wrong with the trigger?

Posted by: Baroque at November 04, 2011 05:03 PM (B0LGd)

122

My father often told how, during the depression, his family was the only one not on assistance.  My Grandfather travelled to find work, they had a garden and all five kids scrambled for nickels.

The neighbots always had the nickel bucket of beer, but no food.  They were given food from the family garden.

Posted by: mghorning at November 04, 2011 05:03 PM (IiaL0)

123 Yes, the dinner is in Iowa - Reagan dinner.  That's where the five candidates are. 

The Americans For Prosperity thing is in DC... I think.  I'll check.  AFP was founded and is supported by one of the Koch Bros.  It used to be part of a bigger group that included Armey's FreedomWorks... they split into two groups.  AFP is the one where Romney and Cain are speaking.

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 05:04 PM (5H6zj)

124

No.  He's keynoting the AFP event.  Cain - his 'rival' (outlaw!) - is speaking at that one, too.

Oh wait, duh.  I forgot.  Yeah, Mittens and the Cain Stain are in DC. 

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 04, 2011 05:04 PM (dWPyO)

125 Was his shotgun broken? It racked okay but was there something wrong with the trigger?

Posted by: Baroque at November 04, 2011 09:03 PM (B0LGd)

Heh, heh.  I woulda put a cap in their arses, too.  Teach 'em a lesson.

Posted by: RushBabe at November 04, 2011 05:04 PM (tQHzJ)

126 Was his shotgun broken? It racked okay but was there something wrong with the trigger?

Sounds like he got the job done without wasting ammo on the hippies. Mens' Warehouse, OTOH, wasn't so lucky, despite the 'I support the 99%' they put in the window.

Posted by: Retread at November 04, 2011 05:06 PM (yP19w)

127 Bachmann on Hannity today. Sheesh! Pull the string and listen to the crazy spilling out! There's no way to sugarcoat it. Michelle Bachmann would club a baby seal in front of kindergartners just to win New Hampshire. Then she would use the clubbing video in a campaign ad.

Posted by: TallaBan at November 04, 2011 05:07 PM (ucERL)

128 You know it might be fun to release a few rafters of wild turkeys into OWS encampments. Wild Turkey's, per historical accounts of their hostility toward the Royal Marines, know the enemies of America and would act accordingly.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at November 04, 2011 05:07 PM (ijjAe)

129 @134
She does have an odd edge to her.  So does Santorum. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 05:08 PM (5H6zj)

130 Posted by: mghorning at November 04, 2011 09:03 PM (IiaL0)

I learned the value of a dollar at a young age: did chores as a kid for allowance. No chores, no allowance. Started working on farms at age 9 and had a paper route until they turned it all over to adults with cars. In fact, I have been working regularly since I was nine years old. I am 35, now.

While these kids are adults and their choices now are their own, I can't help but wonder WTF was wrong with their parents that they all turned out this way.

Posted by: Baroque at November 04, 2011 05:09 PM (B0LGd)

131

You know it might be fun to release a few rafters of wild turkeys into OWS encampments.

I would prefer feral hogs.

Posted by: Ronster at November 04, 2011 05:10 PM (/ej8I)

132

There's no way to sugarcoat it. Michelle Bachmann would club a baby seal in front of kindergartners just to win New Hampshire.

There's something wrong with that?

Posted by: mghorning at November 04, 2011 05:10 PM (IiaL0)

133

Not that anyone is on this dead thread, but out of curiosity, who could Mittens name as veep that would most satisfy those adamantly against him?

 

 

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 04, 2011 05:10 PM (dWPyO)

134

135 You know it might be fun to release a few rafters of wild turkeys into OWS encampments.

Skunks would be better. Put collars on them so they really like like kittehs.

Posted by: Pepe le Peu at November 04, 2011 05:11 PM (2DaHw)

135

There's no way to sugarcoat it. Michelle Bachmann would club a baby seal in front of kindergartners just to win New Hampshire.

Then she would use the clubbing video in a campaign ad.

Its about time the GOP started clubbing something, anything.

Posted by: GMB at November 04, 2011 05:11 PM (wY55N)

136 The turkeys was for "irony" given the season and the fact all the hipster douches are supposedly obsessed with irony.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at November 04, 2011 05:11 PM (ijjAe)

137

Not that anyone is on this dead thread, but out of curiosity, who could Mittens name as veep that would most satisfy those adamantly against him?

 

 

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 04, 2011 09:10 PM (dWPyO)

Michelle Carrsuso Cabrerra

Posted by: robtr at November 04, 2011 05:12 PM (MtwBb)

138 Tenth Commandment:  Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's stuff.
Eleventh Commandent:  Amendment:  Thou shalt spread the wealth around man.

Posted by: fozzy at November 04, 2011 05:12 PM (FEzSe)

139 140 Drop out of the race or set himself on fire or both.

Posted by: steevy at November 04, 2011 05:12 PM (fyOgS)

140 Not that anyone is on this dead thread, but out of curiosity, who could Mittens name as veep that would most satisfy those adamantly against him?

My mistrust of him is maxed out right now.  I'm not sure even Zombie Reagan would do it. 

I suppose if he named Rick Perry VP (not sure if Perry would take it) I could try to swallow the lie that it was all just gamesmanship rather than that Mitt is a souless, nasty piece of work. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 05:12 PM (5H6zj)

141 Sounds like he got the job done without wasting ammo on the hippies. Mens' Warehouse, OTOH, wasn't so lucky, despite the 'I support the 99%' they put in the window.

Posted by: Retread at November 04, 2011 09:06 PM (yP19w)

Bourgeoisie pigs sell suits for the capitalist fat cats. In the end, no one will be spared, I guess.

Just like in Cambodia under Pol Pot.

The reason the Marxist themed classes and philosophies stay well attended is due to P.T. Barnum's rule about a sucker being born every minute, I guess.

Posted by: Baroque at November 04, 2011 05:13 PM (B0LGd)

142 Tebow 2012

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 04, 2011 05:14 PM (OhYCU)

143 I wouldn't mind if he continued to run if he lived though the fire.

Posted by: Ronster at November 04, 2011 05:14 PM (/ej8I)

144

Michelle Carrsuso Cabrerra

Nice google images right there.  I like the cut of your jib robtr.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 04, 2011 05:15 PM (dWPyO)

145 "I was over there maaaan. Fighting for the corporate war machine, fascist military industrial complex maaan. Straight out of ROTC man, I was a Third Lieutenant and my Last Sergeant took a grenade for me. I never ever got trained how to fire my weapon man. They just told us to call in airstrikes on anything brown, even though Afghans and Iraqis are white maaan. The things we did maaaan, burning villages down and taking their women maaaan. I have to toke up every five minutes maaan just to wipe out those memories...... what was I talking about man? Got some munchies? Obama's the shit maaaan.........."

Senator Kerry?  Is that you?

Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit Son of a Bitch at November 04, 2011 05:15 PM (00hVo)

146 Not that anyone is on this dead thread, but out of curiosity, who could Mittens name as veep that would most satisfy those adamantly against him? -------------------------------------- I don't know that the Veep has enough juice to placate conservatives when Mitt goes Lefty. Sure, we voted for Sarah in 2008 but that's because we thought McCain might die at any moment. That was different.

Posted by: TallaBan at November 04, 2011 05:16 PM (ucERL)

147

Posted by: Baroque at November 04, 2011 09:09 PM (B0LGd)

I am 52 have been working almost fulltime since age 16.  I have been with the same employer 23 yrs.  Well respected in a technical position with NO college degree.  Oh, and I have a garden.

Posted by: mghorning at November 04, 2011 05:17 PM (IiaL0)

148 Newt is speaking now.

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 05:17 PM (5H6zj)

149 Hahaa, Langone & Bloomberg are moving in the direction I predicted on my blog--from the fantastic book on Vietnam, The Quicksand War: “If filial obedience no longer existed the whole of Vietnamese society must crumble. The time had come for the defense of the ancient ways. The middle classes of Saigon, the governing bourgeoisie who had made advances to Nguyen Binh, suddenly realized that their own skins were at stake and wealth itself was threatened. As soon as they discovered this they grew very savage. There was no longer any question of the slightest “gentleness”; no question of the Vietminh’s nationalism. Now it was to be repression with blood and torture, a hundred ties crueler than the French of earlier days. It all developed very fast. Nguyen Phan-Long, that crooked genius who had shown himself such a simpleton as prime minister, was replaced by Father Huu, a veteran of the old school. And what came to power with Huu was money, the landowners, the confederation of the rich. Possessors who fear for their possessions are cruel, and nowhere are they crueler than in Asia." [or Manhattan, heheh]

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at November 04, 2011 05:18 PM (PYxvn)

150 "79 A friend from Michigan was telling me that things are so bad in Detroit now that it's really hard to get fruit/vegetables." Problem is that no businessman with half a brain in his head wants to operate in that city. And when grocery stores close because the vandalism, thieving, and violent crime make it impossible to operate decently, a good share of the citizens blame the store owner instead of the thugs. Don't know if it's been mentioned here, but Detroit bus drivers refused to drive their routes today or yesterday, because a driver was beaten by a mob of teens and the police took 30 minutes to show up. So when people who wanted to ride buses were interviewed, who did they blame? The thugs who beat up a driver? Nope the drivers who have the nerve to think they shouldn't be assaulted.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 04, 2011 05:18 PM (/ggry)

151

I would prefer feral hogs.

Posted by: Ronster at November 04, 2011 09:10 PM (/ej8I)

And some hog dogs.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys, they`re ridin` shetland ponies) at November 04, 2011 05:19 PM (CxfIk)

152 Michelle Bachmann would club a baby seal ... Then she would use the clubbing video in a campaign ad.

Why not? Worked for Greenpeace.

Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit Son of a Bitch at November 04, 2011 05:19 PM (00hVo)

153

 Mens' Warehouse, OTOH, wasn't so lucky, despite the 'I support the 99%' they put in the window.

Does the Occupado crowd need to buy a sports coat or an interview suit? No? How about plenty of Americans who daily occupy a shower? Brilliant marketing strategy, MW.

Posted by: fluffy at November 04, 2011 05:19 PM (3SvjA)

154

I suppose if he named Rick Perry VP (not sure if Perry would take it) I could try to swallow the lie that it was all just gamesmanship rather than that Mitt is a souless, nasty piece of work

I'd prefer Rubio or Bolton.  Although I can make a great case for Rubio turning the veep deal down, which I won't get into.

Perry would be pretty far down my list for a Mittens vp.  I'd prefer either a well spoken, younger, tea party type, or a rock solid foreign policy guy.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 04, 2011 05:19 PM (dWPyO)

155 Newt, feel free to spend your money on ethanol ("gasohol")... just don't make me pay for it with taxpayer subsidies.

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 05:19 PM (5H6zj)

156 134
There's no way to sugarcoat it. Michelle Bachmann would club a baby seal in front of kindergartners just to win New Hampshire.

Posted by: TallaBan at November 04, 2011 09:07 PM (ucERL)

Don't knock seal clubbing... I've move a lot of used car inventory that way!

Posted by: Crazy Ernie at November 04, 2011 05:19 PM (mHLwI)

157

You know it might be fun to release a few rafters of wild turkeys into OWS encampments.

I would prefer feral hogs.

Posted by: Ronster at November 04, 2011 09:10 PM (/ej8I)

--------

Javalinas. They would do a better job.

Posted by: Pecos at November 04, 2011 05:19 PM (2Gb0y)

158 We've always got a place for you, Ted.

Posted by: Colonel Oates at November 04, 2011 05:19 PM (HqO0T)

159 "The generation of children in public schools in America today is the first generation that's going to have a lower literacy rate than the previous generation,"

There is another reason behind this. Anyone want to take a guess?

Posted by: gride at November 04, 2011 05:20 PM (QxQym)

160 Re:  Inequality

Every party I didn't go to, every drug I didn't do, every drink I didn't drink, every person I didn't screw, every book I didn't buy, every pair of stompy boots I do not own etc. etc.

Posted by: alexthechick at November 04, 2011 05:20 PM (Gk3SS)

161 Go Newt go

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 04, 2011 05:20 PM (OhYCU)

162 155 Newt is speaking now. ------------------------------------- He was great on Hannity today. Calm, reassuring, in command of every issue. Who knows? Slow and steady may win the race.

Posted by: TallaBan at November 04, 2011 05:20 PM (ucERL)

163

The B-generation. Generation BABY.

oBama Baby generation. The pelosi illiteracy generation. The gimme gimme gimme generation. Pole vaulted in.

 

Save the Children. Abolish the teacher's union.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at November 04, 2011 05:21 PM (O7ksG)

164 Or even both of you. Or all four of you.

Posted by: Colonel Oates at November 04, 2011 05:21 PM (HqO0T)

165 There is another reason behind this. Anyone want to take a guess? Posted by: gride at November 04, 2011 09:20 PM (QxQym) ------------------------------------ Minorities now outnumber the Master Race?

Posted by: TallaBan at November 04, 2011 05:21 PM (ucERL)

166 164 Hyenas.Hungry ones.

Posted by: steevy at November 04, 2011 05:22 PM (fyOgS)

167 Michelle Carusso Cabrerra

Meh, not a fan of the [R2SiO]n

Posted by: pep at November 04, 2011 05:22 PM (6TB1Z)

168

I learned the value of a dollar at a young age: did chores as a kid for allowance.

We had trimmest grass and the first shoveled driveway in the neighborhood.

Posted by: fluffy at November 04, 2011 05:23 PM (3SvjA)

169

Posted by: Baroque at November 04, 2011 09:09 PM (B0LGd)

I am 52 have been working almost fulltime since age 16.  I have been with the same employer 23 yrs.  Well respected in a technical position with NO college degree.  Oh, and I have a garden.

Posted by: mghorning at November 04, 2011 09:17 PM (IiaL0)

===

I just graduated with my BSc but did well without it for years. The reason I went back to school is that I have a bad ticker (congenital) and can't do heavy work anymore. The field I am in something that pays well and I actually enjoy doing. Navel gazing (i.e. philosophy, religion, music, etc) is something I have done as a leisure activity.

I am not sure when it happened but when did manual labor begin to be looked down upon in this country? We have such a need for people in trades that it is frightening.

Posted by: Baroque at November 04, 2011 05:23 PM (B0LGd)

170

Mens' Warehouse, OTOH, wasn't so lucky, despite the 'I support the 99%' they put in the window.

Here is a lesson for MW. You can pander to these dumb asses all you want, but they will still hate you.

Posted by: Ronster at November 04, 2011 05:24 PM (/ej8I)

171

Newt, while well spoken would be an out of focus candidate and error prone.

Not to mention he is radioactive to the gina tingle vote.

Pasty, pudgy, old white guys with little charisma or humor don't do to well with the ladies.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 04, 2011 05:24 PM (dWPyO)

172 Perry would be pretty far down my list for a Mittens vp.  I'd prefer either a well spoken, younger, tea party type, or a rock solid foreign policy guy.

Well, I was answering your question from the perspective of mending fences.  I guess I misunderstood your question.

I don't trust Romney.  I think maybe if he chose his real opponent ('not buying that Cain is running against Mitt), someone who stood up to him, that person might be able to shift Romney right on one issue.  In the case of Perry, if Romney made him his point person on energy issues, that would something.

Rubio is lovely, but he would not hold any sway over Romney. 

At the end of the day, the way Romney has fallen in my eyes (from having voted for him last time), any VP would be lipstick on a pig.  But if he made nice with Perry and treated him with some gd respect, it would help me pull the level for him. 


Newt just said nice about the other candidates, but took a swipe at the two who were not there.

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 05:24 PM (5H6zj)

173

 Hyenas.Hungry ones.

A Dingo ate your baby.

Posted by: Elaine Benes at November 04, 2011 05:24 PM (Gcn92)

174

45

Communists from Columbia University are like that. Assholes. Nazi fucking leftwing commie assholes who dream of murder.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at November 04, 2011 05:25 PM (O7ksG)

175 Via Con Dios Jesse Venture you nutcutlet.Vive Mexico~~

Posted by: steevy at November 04, 2011 05:25 PM (fyOgS)

176 I am not sure when it happened but when did manual labor begin to be looked down upon in this country? ------------------------------------- When illegals took it over?

Posted by: TallaBan at November 04, 2011 05:26 PM (ucERL)

177

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at November 04, 2011 09:23 PM (bZ8J6)

I thought Chef Boyardee tossed you out of the kitchen for being an unshapely, unsavory meatball.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 04, 2011 05:26 PM (dWPyO)

178 "135 You know it might be fun to release a few rafters of wild turkeys into OWS encampments." Or, drop them out of a plane, ala "WKRP in Cincinnati". "Oh, the humanity!" One of the funniest tv sitcoms evah. Thought they could fly, heh.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 04, 2011 05:26 PM (/ggry)

179 This fixation on debates is ludicrous.  C'mon Newt.

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 05:27 PM (5H6zj)

180 I like the cut of these guys' jib. Chicago Board of Trade traders dump McDonald's employment applications on OWS Chicago. http://tinyurl.com/3fonjgr

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 04, 2011 05:27 PM (9Lm5R)

Posted by: Mucky Pup at November 04, 2011 05:27 PM (Gcn92)

182 Posted by: JewishOdysseus at November 04, 2011 09:18 PM (PYxvn)
-----------
Clap 3 times to let the spirits know you are there.

Posted by: Pecos at November 04, 2011 05:27 PM (2Gb0y)

183 186 Drop frozen turkeys out of planes on them.And green ice.

Posted by: steevy at November 04, 2011 05:28 PM (fyOgS)

184 ya know I kind of feel sorry for these losers.. for about 5 seconds and then I just think.. "fuck 'em".

Posted by: jewells45, tea party terrorist at November 04, 2011 05:29 PM (Z71Vg)

185

I am not sure when it happened but when did manual labor begin to be looked down upon in this country?

It is? I'm screwed then. I just spent the afternoon helping my son in law build a generator house for his backup generator.

Posted by: robtr at November 04, 2011 05:29 PM (MtwBb)

186 "Pasty, pudgy, old white guys with little charisma or humor don't do to well with the ladies." Oh, shit.

Posted by: Winfield Hancock at November 04, 2011 05:29 PM (HqO0T)

187 188 Should have dropped hundred pound bundles of them.

Posted by: steevy at November 04, 2011 05:29 PM (fyOgS)

188 184: No, before then.  With the rise of Boomer culture.  You had to hire a Mexican to change your lightbulbs and mow your lawn.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 04, 2011 05:29 PM (btzPD)

189 Pasty, pudgy, old white guys with little charisma or humor don't do to well with the ladies. ---------------------------------------- Which is why I am for stripping them of their right to vote. Man! I am such a problem solver this evening!

Posted by: TallaBan at November 04, 2011 05:29 PM (ucERL)

190 Posted by: nerdygirl at November 04, 2011 09:26 PM (/ggry)

"Hitting the ground like bags of wet cement!" lol

I lived in Cincy when that show was still on and near the old WKRC building downtown.

It's strange to look at the skyline in the end credits. It's so different now.

Posted by: Baroque at November 04, 2011 05:30 PM (B0LGd)

191 Every face in that video said, "I voted for Obama".

Posted by: JPComix at November 04, 2011 05:30 PM (fh2Y7)

192 and may I mention that I am, at this point in my life, quite inebriated.  Did I spell that right?  Oh, who gives a shit.

Posted by: jewells45..full of tequila and doesn't give a rats ass at November 04, 2011 05:31 PM (Z71Vg)

193 More I think about it, watching a bunch of live turkeys drop like rocks on the damn, dirty hippies in Zucrappy Park would be pay-per-view quality entertainment. Splat, splat, splat. Right on the drum circle. Lord, I'm an awful person.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 04, 2011 05:31 PM (/ggry)

194 Wait...Mitt and Cain are in DC when they should be at the Reagan dinner in Iowa.  That proves that Mitt is a Rino and Cain is a rapist.  Sorry, I'm sittin this election cycle out. 

Posted by: bloggers who are legends in their own minds... at November 04, 2011 05:32 PM (wrGst)

195 Good for you, jewells. I had a Pacifico, but I limit myself to one when I'm on my own (hubby at work).

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 05:32 PM (5H6zj)

196 184 After WW2.That generation(for the most part) wanted their children to be college educated,white colar workers.They had good intentions,they lived threw depression and a terrible war.

Posted by: steevy at November 04, 2011 05:32 PM (fyOgS)

197 Crap. #199 was Corona. Damn 1-time sock puppet tryout.

Posted by: Corona at November 04, 2011 05:32 PM (fh2Y7)

198 Wanna see a real Cain lynching?

Remember the Ben Bradlee video?

At 2:00ish he makes the comment that Mr. Cain should “run for the roundhouse”..a direct reference to the place (the roundhouse) in Harpers Ferry that runaway slaves “ran” to in escaping their masters wrath during the abolishionist movement.

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 04, 2011 05:32 PM (OhYCU)

199 Sometimes, Old Overholt will do just fine.  Tonight is such a night.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 04, 2011 05:33 PM (btzPD)

200 new thread...senate projections 2012

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 04, 2011 05:33 PM (D+phB)

201

by: Winfield Hancock at November 04, 2011 09:29 PM (HqO0T)

James Garfield made the ladies tingle.  Chet Arthur probably had something to do with that.  Quite the dresser.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 04, 2011 05:34 PM (dWPyO)

202 196 184: No, before then.  With the rise of Boomer culture.  You had to hire a Mexican to change your lightbulbs and mow your lawn.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 04, 2011 09:29 PM (btzPD)

===

Some of the people with whom I work look at me funny when I tell them I have to go home and work in the garden, mow the lawn, rake the leaves, etc.

I live in a fairly rural area but the pussifaction factor is getting a bit of the charts, here.

Posted by: Baroque at November 04, 2011 05:34 PM (B0LGd)

203 Y-not.. I drink Milagro Anejo.  My BIL introduced me to it several years ago.  The bastard.

Posted by: jewells45..full of tequila and doesn't give a rats ass at November 04, 2011 05:35 PM (Z71Vg)

204 No, before then.  With the rise of Boomer culture.  You had to hire a Mexican to change your lightbulbs and mow your lawn.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 04, 2011 09:29 PM (btzPD)

Bullshit, I'm a boomer and worked as a bridge carpenter through college. That was back when all carpenters were white guys, in fact you couldn't get into the carpenters union unless you were white. We sent out kids to college and steered them away from working with their hands so maybe it's partly our fault but not all of it.

Posted by: robtr at November 04, 2011 05:35 PM (MtwBb)

205 @208
Seems like an exercise in futility without knowing who the ticket will be. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 05:35 PM (5H6zj)

206 I drink Milagro Anejo.

I'm not a tequila gal, but my husband like Herradura... can't recall, but it would be the aged kind, sipping tequila. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 05:36 PM (5H6zj)

207 Meh, not a fan of the [R2SiO]n

that deserves a lulz

Posted by: chemjeff at November 04, 2011 05:37 PM (s7mIC)

208 You all DO know who really is behind this Cain bullshit right?

Posted by: jewells45..full of tequila and doesn't give a rats ass at November 04, 2011 05:37 PM (Z71Vg)

209 213 @208
Seems like an exercise in futility without knowing who the ticket will be.

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 09:35 PM (5H6zj)

The way things are going, it doesn't look like either ticket will have very long coattails.  Sure, things can and will change, but the projections seem pretty likely based on other sources I've seen.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 04, 2011 05:37 PM (D+phB)

210

I am not sure when it happened but when did manual labor begin to be looked down upon in this country?

It started to happen as the need for small farms  and dairies were not necessary. Technology made bigger operations more efficient. That's all good. But, give me a break. How can you compare doing chores for 4 hours a day and working all weekend as a youth on a farm be anything like mowing a lawn in the city once a week?

Posted by: Ronster at November 04, 2011 05:38 PM (/ej8I)

211 Y-not, yeah I sip mine.  At the price I pay I sure as shit ain't gonna throw it down my gullet in one shot.

Posted by: jewells45..full of tequila and doesn't give a rats ass at November 04, 2011 05:39 PM (Z71Vg)

212 I am thinking fake boob technology has improved over the last decade.

Although, I'd have to test several sets of silicone and a control group of breastises, to be certain.

For science.

Posted by: Baroque at November 04, 2011 05:39 PM (B0LGd)

213 215 Meh, not a fan of the [R2SiO]n

that deserves a lulz

Posted by: chemjeff at November 04, 2011 09:37 PM (s7mIC)

True...but at the same time, remember, morons: if you can touch them, they're real.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 04, 2011 05:39 PM (D+phB)

214

Just to be clear, I was not directing that at you, Baroque. Just a general statement.

Posted by: Ronster at November 04, 2011 05:41 PM (/ej8I)

215 216 You all DO know who really is behind this Cain bullshit right?

Is this a trick question? 

I think Politico is "behind" it, but my current guess is that the tip came from someone at the NRA.  That would explain the very limited scope of complaints. 

Everyone (defending Cain) tells us that all CEOs are targetted all the time by these things, but for some reason we only heard about things during his 3 yrs at the NRA.  Political consultants and advisors would know about all of his potentially damaging incidents, not just ones from '96-'99. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 05:42 PM (5H6zj)

216

I am not sure when it happened but when did manual labor begin to be looked down upon in this country? We have such a need for people in trades that it is frightening.

It was explained to me thusly; I don't have any money.  I will never have any money so, there is no point in saving any money.

It started with Roosevelt.

Posted by: mghorning at November 04, 2011 05:42 PM (IiaL0)

217
I'm not a tequila gal, but my husband like Herradura... can't recall, but it would be the aged kind, sipping tequila. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 09:36 PM (5H6zj)

It is pretty good for tequila. I picked up a bottle of that shit for 8 bucks in Cozumel.

It was in the pharmacia right next to the Rohypnol, which is fucked up and creepy.

Posted by: ErikW at November 04, 2011 05:42 PM (Hv6+A)

218 I have to stay on this thread.  It's too annoying on the mega-wide map thread.

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 05:43 PM (5H6zj)

219  Splat, splat, splat. Right on the drum circle.

That almost cheered me up.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 04, 2011 05:48 PM (lGVMg)

220 Hello? 

Echo...

echo

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 05:49 PM (5H6zj)

221 Zoom out, Y-Not.  Though that could make commenting difficult...

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 04, 2011 05:50 PM (D+phB)

222 No, I get what you're saying.

I think we can agree that the, for lack of a better term, Protestant work ethic has waned with the rise of the Nanny/Welfare state. I would also add the Victim State to as in everyone is a victim so nothing really anyone's fault.

For the record, when I started working on farms it was a daily job as the farm I worked at was just five miles up the road. When they were short of work or had none, I would go to other farms. This was in addition to a paper route and working around my parent's property.

Posted by: Baroque at November 04, 2011 05:50 PM (B0LGd)

223 Okay, I know I am full of tequila.. but I am gonna throw this out there and ya'll can shoot it full of holes.  Cain is doing very well.  He is either leading the polls or just a point behind Romney.  I can't imagine that Obama would want to run against Cain.  Can you even imagine that scenario?  Two black men running for the presidency?  One conservative and one uhh.. well a fucking loon?

Posted by: jewells45..full of tequila and doesn't give a rats ass at November 04, 2011 05:51 PM (Z71Vg)

224 I would also add the Victim State to as in everyone is a victim so nothing really anyone's fault.

Oh, there's fault. White people, male people, conservative people, Christian people, the Founders--they're all oppressors, not victims.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 04, 2011 05:52 PM (lGVMg)

225 231 Okay, I know I am full of tequila.. but I am gonna throw this out there and ya'll can shoot it full of holes.  Cain is doing very well.  He is either leading the polls or just a point behind Romney.  I can't imagine that Obama would want to run against Cain.

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Well, Politico seems to be an arm of the administration, so that's not much of a stretch.

I don't know if it was so much targeted at Cain as just throwing a grenade into the whole GOP primary.  It certainly had the beneficial (for Obama) effect of spreading shrapnel throughout the field and upsetting the GOP voters. 

I still think that the best theory I've seen is that it was an NRA board member.  I haven't seen any evidence that the complainants initiated it.  And the charges against Perry's guy are bullshit - or I'm sure Politico would gleefully take Anderson up on his offer to spill the beans if he was the source.

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 05:57 PM (5H6zj)

226 >>229 Zoom out, Y-Not.  Though that could make commenting difficult...

Yeah, letters are a bit tiny. Not worth it. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 04, 2011 05:58 PM (5H6zj)

227

Posted by: Baroque at November 04, 2011 09:50 PM (B0LGd)

I agree with you. It has been a long slow process. Until the last few years the decline has been so slow, most people didn't realize what was happening.

Posted by: Ronster at November 04, 2011 06:00 PM (/ej8I)

228 I guess it was a little over a week ago when I first saw the report come out that discussed the widening inequality gap between the various quintiles of income between 1980 and 2010. My response? Wooo hoooo! The issue of income "inequality" comes down to a simple question of what you want... a ladder or a treadmill. By definition, the larger the difference between wages at different income quintiles, the larger the reward for moving up from one level to another. That's the ladder. And the steeper the better. By definition, flattening income between quintiles to make them more "equal" means that no matter how much you work, you can never increase your standard of living. That's the treadmill. The OWS clowns sneer down their noses at getting jobs that they consider "wage slavery" while demanding income equality. With "income EQUALITY" gaining seniority gets you nothing. Gaining education gets you nothing. Gaining experience gets you nothing. Gaining skills gets you nothing. THAT's "wage slavery". Working away... never advancing... never rising... never achieving... with no hope of ever being to ever change the situation you're in or ever having any more than you have right now... until you die. So, ladder or treadmill? What say you? Ladder or treadmill? Is there really any question?

Posted by: Guvnah at November 04, 2011 06:07 PM (sqMOy)

229 Can you even imagine that scenario?  Two black men running for the presidency?  One conservative and one uhh.. well a fucking loon?

Posted by: jewells45..full of tequila and doesn't give a rats ass at November 04, 2011 09:51 PM (Z71Vg)

I think that's why the Dem's attacks on Cain are so loose and confused. They're used to the racism charge and now all of a sudden, a black man is involved and pretty popular.

It's easy to see why the left is fumbling a bit but I don't understand why the right is trying to destroy him.

Posted by: ErikW at November 04, 2011 06:08 PM (Hv6+A)

230 Maybe I'm thinking of another Cain...the Herman Cain Presidental canidate I have witnessed speaking would get his ass handed to him in a debate with Obama.

Posted by: Just buzzed enough at November 04, 2011 06:12 PM (BMHOF)

231 With "income EQUALITY" gaining seniority gets you nothing. Gaining education gets you nothing. Gaining experience gets you nothing. Gaining skills gets you nothing.

When you pay the janitor the same as the doctor, you get shitty doctors, but the toilets don't get any cleaner.

I've noticed most of the really HUGE incomes (sports, Hollywood, politics) don't seem to be derived from experience/education. Physical and mental talents are not evenly distributed.
 

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 04, 2011 06:15 PM (lGVMg)

232 Maybe I'm thinking of another Cain...the Herman Cain Presidental canidate I have witnessed speaking would get his ass handed to him in a debate with Obama.

Posted by: Just buzzed enough at November 04, 2011 10:12 PM (BMHOF)

No. Obama would be off teleprompter and Cain would hand Obama's skinny ass back to him.

Posted by: ErikW at November 04, 2011 06:17 PM (Hv6+A)

233

I swear by my life and my love of it

That I will never live for the sake of another man

Nor ask another man to live for mine

 

Screw ObamavilleWallStreet

Posted by: stillwater, late as usual at November 04, 2011 06:17 PM (0GpN4)

234 Jewell, 231: "Okay, I know I am full of tequila.. but I am gonna throw this out there and ya'll can shoot it full of holes. Cain is doing very well. He is either leading the polls or just a point behind Romney. I can't imagine that Obama would want to run against Cain. Can you even imagine that scenario? Two black men running for the presidency? One conservative and one uhh.. well a fucking loon?" En tequila veritas...

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at November 04, 2011 06:35 PM (PYxvn)

235 Ladder or Treadmill... Consider the steep ladder of income inequality from the standpoint of the labor market. Greater inequality between income quintiles indicates a labor market in which employers are being forced to compete more viciously to hire people with only marginally better skills, experience, education, etc. It means laborers have the leverage to force larger concessions from employers in terms of wages and benefits. Income inequality = labor paradise Ladder or treadmill? Getting it yet, OWS?

Posted by: Guvnah at November 04, 2011 06:35 PM (sqMOy)

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Posted by: Winter Moon Rises ePub at November 04, 2011 06:45 PM (Omjkj)

237

 

 

 

 

"No. Obama would be off teleprompter and Cain would hand Obama's skinny ass back to him"

 If only that were so. You have to look through the eyes of the majority of the voting public. I saw through Obama straight away...most likely you did too.

53% of the voting public didn't.

Posted by: Just buzzed enough at November 04, 2011 06:52 PM (luMDr)

238 Jeez, I just watched that video, it indeed chock-full of wisdom. I tell ya, tho, when that whiny little bitch Andrew, at 4:15, says "If you read history, economic inequality does not lead to good things," I wanted to take out a big fat old history book (Gibbon?) and bitch-slug him right across his prissy smirking mug with it. When you look up "arrogant brainless weasel tool" in the dictionary, you'll find Andrew Sorkin's face.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at November 04, 2011 07:02 PM (PYxvn)

239 Anyone else want to donate bleach scrub brushes  to Oakland, Atlanta, etc?

We can send the displaced OWSers to wherever the DNC is next year? (Charlotte?  Yikes, that 1 hour from where I live.  The smell is going to be awful.)


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Posted by: Jellytoast at November 05, 2011 04:54 AM (FPJxD)

246

He is absolutely 100% spot on. 

Our society and our public schools reflect this reality:  more and more, people are becoming passive observers of life, and they truly believe that success comes from

1. luck,

2. the intervention / actions of others, or

3. their own God-given brilliance.

ALL OF THESE BELIEFS are inhibiting or self-defeating.  The only belief system that ultimately leads to success is a belief in the power of one's own effort. 

The best schools (and the best parents) in our country REPEATEDLY and CONSISTENTLY inundate students with this message:

"Hard work leads to success.  You control your own destiny."

If you want to know if your kid is at a good school or not, try the following experiment.  Pick your child's BEST teacher, the one you know challenges him/her the most.  Call the principal with a minor complaint about too much homework, or about the class being too hard.  See how the principal reacts. 

His/her reaction will tell you everything you need to know. 

 

 

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