February 24, 2011
— rdbrewer Now that Discovery is in safely in space, the Livestream box is safely below the fold.

Update: Here is a link to the NASA Livestream. The embed was getting a little slow.
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Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 24, 2011 12:46 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 24, 2011 12:46 PM (bAySe)
Posted by: Vic at February 24, 2011 12:46 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Soothsayer's twisted logic at February 24, 2011 12:49 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: USS Diversity at February 24, 2011 12:50 PM (DLxD/)
Posted by: ace at February 24, 2011 12:50 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 24, 2011 12:51 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: ace at February 24, 2011 12:51 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: USS Diversity at February 24, 2011 12:52 PM (DLxD/)
Godspeed, Discovery!
BTW, I heard earlier that Giffords was not on this flight as it wasn't really the last one. I still don't know what that's about.
Posted by: ErikW at February 24, 2011 12:52 PM (zphkI)
Posted by: Soothsayer's twisted logic at February 24, 2011 12:52 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: Soothsayer's twisted logic at February 24, 2011 12:52 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at February 24, 2011 12:53 PM (le5qc)
Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 24, 2011 12:53 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: ace at February 24, 2011 04:51 PM (nj1bB
Travis Taylor says the advances in lasers will make that a great way to launch cargo.
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at February 24, 2011 12:54 PM (4yjiA)
Posted by: Soothsayer's twisted logic at February 24, 2011 12:55 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: ace at February 24, 2011 12:55 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: USS Diversity at February 24, 2011 12:57 PM (DLxD/)
Posted by: Soothsayer's twisted logic at February 24, 2011 04:52 PM (uFokq)
And that fucking thing was able to take off without an external tank and SRB's!
Crafty folks, they were.
Posted by: ErikW at February 24, 2011 12:57 PM (zphkI)
I saw a big block of insulation fly off about two minutes ago.
Posted by: rdbrewer at February 24, 2011 12:59 PM (NG1bi)
Posted by: Chris R at February 24, 2011 12:59 PM (QiNmA)
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at February 24, 2011 12:59 PM (KAa3c)
Posted by: ace at February 24, 2011 04:55 PM (nj1bB)
Really? What about Space X, Bigelow, Aramadillo, Virgin Galactic....
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at February 24, 2011 01:00 PM (4yjiA)
Posted by: dan in michigan at February 24, 2011 01:00 PM (ursg4)
So is the M-16 rifle what's your point?
Yeah my long bow is a bunch older yet. What's your point? You can't update shit to make it better?
Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 24, 2011 01:00 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: ace at February 24, 2011 01:01 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: ace at February 24, 2011 04:50 PM (nj1bB)
We were supposed to have the tandem spaceplane, with a fully-functioning airplane lower half and a re-entry-capable rocket-propelled winged orbital vehicle upper half.
I saw the damn thing in my Time-Life Science Library SPACE book back in 1966! (Artist's conception.)
Posted by: stuiec at February 24, 2011 01:01 PM (JuWS+)
Posted by: nevergiveup at February 24, 2011 01:02 PM (0GFWk)
Posted by: Chris R at February 24, 2011 01:02 PM (QiNmA)
Both the shuttle and the M-16 have been updated and made better off 40+ year old platforms. So just because something is 40+ doesn't make it useless is my point.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 24, 2011 01:03 PM (tf9Ne)
Oh god... when the first person asked about that I thought he was making a gallows-humor joke.
How gauche.
Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2011 01:03 PM (g7hbH)
Posted by: USS Diversity at February 24, 2011 01:03 PM (DLxD/)
Posted by: rdbrewer at February 24, 2011 01:03 PM (NG1bi)
A Tulsa police captain has filed a federal lawsuit claiming his civil rights were violated after he was reassigned and placed under investigation for refusing to order officers to attend a voluntary social event at a mosque.
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at February 24, 2011 01:03 PM (4yjiA)
Posted by: Soothsayer's twisted logic at February 24, 2011 01:04 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: csm at February 24, 2011 01:04 PM (Gw4Kc)
Posted by: ace at February 24, 2011 05:01 PM (nj1bB)
It can survive one or two isolated cooling blocks falling off (if they don't hit anything else on the way down). It's when a half-dozen in a cluster come off that the problem becomes truly horrifying.
(I've been in the Orbiter Refurbishment Building at KSC. It's a pretty cool jigsaw puzzle all over that bird -- lots of different shapes, sizes and thicknesses of the tiles.)
Posted by: stuiec at February 24, 2011 01:04 PM (JuWS+)
Posted by: rdbrewer at February 24, 2011 01:04 PM (NG1bi)
Posted by: USS Diversity at February 24, 2011 05:00 PM (DLxD/)
We've already been there, stupid.
Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee at February 24, 2011 01:05 PM (zphkI)
We still use B52's. We still MAKE Browning M2 .50 machine guns. Old does not mean bad.
Posted by: Chris R at February 24, 2011 01:06 PM (QiNmA)
And also that whenever aliens want to screw with the Earth, they always go to the UK first. But my most favorite joke from the newer Who series is that the BBC is able to explain away the aliens every time they blow something up in Cardiff or the Daleks invade London or whatever.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 24, 2011 01:07 PM (p05LM)
But we're the leader in time travel!
(You just arrived from 1973 and posted, right?)
Posted by: oblig. at February 24, 2011 01:07 PM (xvZW9)
NASA lost its way. Luckily, the private sector is beginning to come into its own on this front.
Posted by: krakatoa at February 24, 2011 01:08 PM (a0Jhx)
Capuchin monkeys, that are found across Central and South America, routinely urinate in their hands and rub the liquid around their body.
The reason for the strange habit has been a mystery to scientists for years.
Some thought the urine lowered body temperature, while others claimed it enabled the monkeys to identify particular individuals by smell.
Now the mystery has been solved. A new study, published in the American Journal of Primatology, has found the urine ‘turns on’ female monkeys.
Come on, ladies, admit it!Posted by: stuiec at February 24, 2011 01:08 PM (JuWS+)
Posted by: Soothsayer's twisted logic at February 24, 2011 01:08 PM (uFokq)
They were tied to the luggage rack. oops
Posted by: The Leprechauns at February 24, 2011 01:08 PM (H+LJc)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 24, 2011 01:09 PM (qIHlG)
Posted by: Soothsayer's twisted logic at February 24, 2011 01:09 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: joncelli at February 24, 2011 01:10 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: curious at February 24, 2011 01:10 PM (p302b)
Posted by: maddogg at February 24, 2011 01:11 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Muslim Capcom at February 24, 2011 01:11 PM (DLxD/)
Posted by: ace at February 24, 2011 01:11 PM (nj1bB)
INVESTIGATING POSSIBLE DAMAGE TO SHUTTLE AFTER LAUNCH.
"Foam" like materials came off at about 3mins post launch. Likely not a huge issue but the engineers will obviously be analyzing it to max extreme to ensure nothing wrong.
Posted by: ObamaSuxDonkeyBalls at February 24, 2011 01:12 PM (w74G6)
Posted by: rdbrewer at February 24, 2011 01:12 PM (NG1bi)
Posted by: The Leprechauns at February 24, 2011 01:13 PM (H+LJc)
Posted by: ace at February 24, 2011 01:13 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: The man at February 24, 2011 01:13 PM (vrDK+)
Posted by: ObamaSuxDonkeyBalls at February 24, 2011 01:13 PM (w74G6)
Posted by: Soothsayer's twisted logic at February 24, 2011 01:13 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: ace at February 24, 2011 01:13 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Soothsayer's twisted logic at February 24, 2011 01:14 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 24, 2011 01:14 PM (qIHlG)
Posted by: Muslim Capcom at February 24, 2011 01:14 PM (DLxD/)
Posted by: joncelli at February 24, 2011 01:14 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: curious at February 24, 2011 05:10 PM (p302b)
Fascinating in a truly blood-curdling sense. So the Coast Guard was telling cleanup boats during the Gulf oil spill to turn back to port for lack of life vests or fire extinguishers, but when the regulators found that the day care center in Houston didn't have a fire extinguisher, they let it stay open.
Posted by: stuiec at February 24, 2011 01:15 PM (JuWS+)
Posted by: The Leprechauns at February 24, 2011 01:16 PM (H+LJc)
Right, as long as your down with the limitations of the original platform.
Like after 40+ years of space exploration, you were cool with never getting out of near orbit. Kind of like my bow. If your cool with only being able to kill at 30 yds or less with huge gaps between shots it's a great weapon. If you want to go further or do more, you have to develop more. Updating the same ole stuff only gets you so much. And considering we used to lead the way in manned space exploration, going 40 years without any new innovation in that area is a disappointment.
Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 24, 2011 01:16 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Soothsayer's twisted logic at February 24, 2011 01:16 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: nickless at February 24, 2011 01:16 PM (MMC8r)
Yes and no - I got the impression people in general knew something had happened but had accepted some bullshit explanation that didn't involve aliens or the Doctor.
Torchwood kinda half-heartedly papers over the attractiveness of Cardiff to aliens by putting an invisible dimensional rip thingy there.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 24, 2011 01:16 PM (p05LM)
Posted by: ace's dick at February 24, 2011 01:16 PM (nj1bB)
We haven't made one since WWII ended.
You're saying we should pack the shuttle in cosmoline, for later?
Posted by: comatus at February 24, 2011 01:17 PM (W5ilH)
Posted by: nevergiveup at February 24, 2011 01:17 PM (0GFWk)
Posted by: nickless at February 24, 2011 01:18 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: ace's dick at February 24, 2011 01:18 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Soothsayer's twisted logic at February 24, 2011 05:09 PM (uFokq)
IIRC, the Shuttle was originally designed to be a workhorse that would deliver materials into orbit to faciltate the construction of a manned Mars exploratory vehicle.
Or a secret orbital nuke delivery station, depending on what wackjob you believe.
Posted by: ErikW at February 24, 2011 01:18 PM (zphkI)
I think that's what makes him believable as a composite of the earlier Doctors, especially Tom Baker (who rivaled Shatner for scenery chewing capability).
Posted by: Ian S. at February 24, 2011 01:18 PM (p05LM)
Posted by: CoolCzech at February 24, 2011 01:19 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: ObamaSuxDonkeyBalls at February 24, 2011 01:20 PM (w74G6)
Posted by: Muslim Capcom at February 24, 2011 05:11 PM (DLxD/)
AAALALALALALALALALALALA!!!!!!
Posted by: ErikW at February 24, 2011 01:20 PM (zphkI)
Posted by: Soothsayer's twisted logic at February 24, 2011 01:21 PM (uFokq)
I guess another shuttle launches for emergency rescue?
Posted by: ace at February 24, 2011 05:13 PM (nj1bB)
They did develop a tile repair kit at one point, so that the crew could do an EVA to glue a patch on. Problem is, it's never been fully tested.
They can always head to the International Space Station to hang out until a rescue capsule comes -- but it might take a few trips of rescue capsules to retrieve the entire crew.
Posted by: stuiec at February 24, 2011 01:21 PM (JuWS+)
The absolute lack of originality, imagination and guts coming out of hollywood these days is way too obvious. I think it is because in the past things were done as art, because you had a craft and you honed it and grew, now, however, it's all about making the money. Art, honing the craft and making the money sometimes don't mesh as well as one might like them too.
I think of all the wonderful frank capra movies and wonder where the next frank capra is?
Posted by: curious at February 24, 2011 01:22 PM (p302b)
Posted by: The Leprechauns at February 24, 2011 05:13 PM (H+LJc)
Heh. I was thinking the same thing. It resembles an Obama/Biden bumper sticker I see affixed to some douchebag's Land Rover every day in the parking lot at work.
But, no; it's a shuttle button.
Posted by: Herr Blücher at February 24, 2011 01:23 PM (D5FQB)
Posted by: Soothsayer's twisted logic at February 24, 2011 01:23 PM (uFokq)
Meshach Talyor's best work was on Designing Women.
Designing Women is a trip through the cesspool of liberal pomposity.
Remember them 'watching' the Clarence Thomas Lynching?
Insufferable liberal fantasy propaganda where anyone with a different opinion is an incapable dimwitted troglodyte who is unable to counter the untouchable brilliance of our loving main characters.
Posted by: nickless at February 24, 2011 01:23 PM (MMC8r)
You're likely right. As with unions that have outlived their original purpose now that labor laws are on the books across the nation and in every state, the space program needs to go private. Being on the tax dollar provides far too much opportunity to squander funding. Leaving politicians in charge of the space program was a sure way to detour it from exceptional-ism. And government employees, now unionized, are the ones who couldn't get a job in the leading market place. Once upon a time, when the space program began, there was no competition and there was a general lack of either interest or conviction in the idea of sending a man to the moon or to Mars as your business' main purpose. That was then and this is now. Hell, if out of financial stress our Air Force must be built in France of various foreign components to provide national defense, why would the US taxpayers have the money to fund NASA that failed to design a proper landing for the robotic photographer of Mars that crashed on impact.
Posted by: The Leprechauns at February 24, 2011 01:24 PM (H+LJc)
Only the price was in question.
Posted by: pay to play at February 24, 2011 05:22 PM (GTbGH)
win win as far as I am concerned, 11,000 new jobs in washington and the air force won't be flying a french plane.
Posted by: robtr at February 24, 2011 01:25 PM (hVDig)
Posted by: Soothsayer's twisted logic at February 24, 2011 01:25 PM (uFokq)
You're saying we should pack the shuttle in cosmoline, for later?
Posted by: comatus at February 24, 2011 05:17 PM (W5ilH)
I'm sure the people at General Dynamics and US Ordnance are wondering what the fuck they are making then. All this time they thought they were making M2s. Oh yeah, and that big ass machine gun that FN still sells overseas? Guess those were made in WWII also.
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at February 24, 2011 01:25 PM (4yjiA)
Posted by: . at February 24, 2011 01:26 PM (p302b)
How many of you F*'s who are saying 40 years for tech ain't bad are still watching your movies on DVD? How about VHS? How about 8mm. Thats right, you'd still be watching it on 8mm.
Making calls on Rotary phones?
Still using electric typewriters and carbon paper for copies?
8 Track much?
For F* sake, a space vehicle is supposed to be the zenith of your best tech. 40 years old is ancient for technology.
If this space shuttle was a car, you could get a vintage plate for it.
Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 24, 2011 01:27 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: CoolCzech at February 24, 2011 01:27 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: Soothsayer's twisted logic at February 24, 2011 01:27 PM (uFokq)
They did develop a tile repair kit at one point, so that the crew could do an EVA to glue a patch on. Problem is, it's never been fully tested.
They can always head to the International Space Station to hang out until a rescue capsule comes -- but it might take a few trips of rescue capsules to retrieve the entire crew.
Posted by: stuiec at February 24, 2011 05:21 PM (JuWS+)
It's kinda like a tire patch kit, essentially a hot glue gun with cut-to-form tiles.
Posted by: ErikW at February 24, 2011 01:27 PM (zphkI)
Posted by: Soothsayer's twisted logic at February 24, 2011 01:28 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: nevergiveup at February 24, 2011 01:28 PM (0GFWk)
Posted by: Soothsayer's twisted logic at February 24, 2011 04:55 PM (uFokq)
Nope. We've become more like Greece.
Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2011 01:29 PM (KVVsl)
Posted by: rdbrewer at February 24, 2011 01:30 PM (NG1bi)
Posted by: curious at February 24, 2011 01:30 PM (p302b)
Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 24, 2011 05:27 PM (0q2P7)
But the B-52 "Buff" is still kicking some serious ass.
Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2011 01:33 PM (KVVsl)
Posted by: curious at February 24, 2011 01:37 PM (p302b)
When are we going to stop letting in middle east "students" to our country?
Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2011 01:38 PM (KVVsl)
Posted by: Chris R at February 24, 2011 01:38 PM (QiNmA)
Posted by: dagny at February 24, 2011 01:38 PM (In1re)
I thought that they would reach orbit and then open the cargo bay doors to release a small version of say an F22 type space vehicle. Two person - with the capability to reach the moon - land and return to the shuttle. And as an added bonus be capable of striking any location on earth with smart ass laser weapons to maintain world peace.
But Nooooooo.
Posted by: melvin at February 24, 2011 01:38 PM (3OCZw)
Once Discovery gets its doors open, the crew will use a camera on the robotic arm to inspect the tiles to see if any on the undersurface are missing.
Discovery, Atlantis, and Endeavour are not as tile intensive as Columbia and Challenger were. They received a silica blanket thermal protection system for less heat critical areas like the OMS pods.
Hopefully the camera inspection and ISS look over don't find anything. If they do find a tile on the undersurface missing, then its the post Columbia repair kit. Big chunk? Then Discovery becomes an extension to the ISS while NASA talks to Russia for a couple Soyuz capsules.
Discovery history - Launch 17 June 1985 OV-103 carried aloft a seven man crew that included Patrick Baudry of France and Salman Abdel-aziz Al-Saud. So I guess Obama missed the memo NASA has already done Islamic outreach.
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 24, 2011 01:41 PM (w3wZO)
Posted by: nevergiveup at February 24, 2011 05:28 PM (0GFWk)
I'd hate to be the guy on that job.
Houston: "Remember all the billions we've spent on sub-orbital, hypersonic air foil testing?"
EVA Dude: "Yeah?"
Houston: "Don't fuck it up or it's your ass."
Posted by: ErikW at February 24, 2011 01:42 PM (FaI/3)
Posted by: Muslims Worldwide at February 24, 2011 01:44 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: ObamaSuxDonkeyBalls at February 24, 2011 02:05 PM (w74G6)
If I recall, Designing Women was produced by, ohshit I forget her name, a Clinton rump-swab and close friend from AR
Linda Bloodworth Thomason (sp?). Great "friend" of Teh Slick One.
Who's Jugeared McF*stick's BFF? (besides Kaddaffi, er, Quadaffi, er, Whothefcaresadaffi)
Posted by: Jess at February 24, 2011 02:31 PM (OXvHP)
Don't pander to me, kid. One tiny crack in the hull and our blood boils in thirteen seconds. Solar flare might crop up, cook us in our seats.
And wait till you're sitting pretty with a case of Andorian shingles, see if you're so relaxed when your eyeballs are bleeding.
Space is disease and danger wrapped in darkness and silence.
Posted by: Leonard H. McCoy, M.D. at February 24, 2011 02:41 PM (zeR5Z)
Posted by: torquewrench at February 24, 2011 03:39 PM (aWrFJ)
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Posted by: Soothsayer's twisted logic at February 24, 2011 12:44 PM (uFokq)