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May 16, 2011

Last Flight of Endeavor
— rdbrewer

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Posted by: rdbrewer at 04:55 AM | Comments (91)
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1 And, thus ends the American century if we don't pull our heads out of our asses.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 16, 2011 04:58 AM (B+qrE)

2 We should keep them flying.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 16, 2011 05:00 AM (h614z)

3 We are now focusing our efforts on Global Warming and Muslim outreach. Did you not get the memo?

Posted by: NASA at May 16, 2011 05:02 AM (EL+OC)

4 Now that the Space Shuttle program is officially ended NASA has more time to falsify global warming data.

Posted by: Crusty at May 16, 2011 05:03 AM (qzgbP)

5 Nice launch. Just imagine, in a few years, when your kids are old enough to distinguish with a degree of clarity when their parents are bullshitting them, when you tell them that the U.S. led the world for decades in space, they will laugh in your face.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at May 16, 2011 05:04 AM (jx2j9)

6 I am not sorry to see them go. In fact, we should kill NASA completely.

Posted by: Vic at May 16, 2011 05:05 AM (M9Ie6)

7 Amazing.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 16, 2011 05:05 AM (h614z)

8 Why, Vic?

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 16, 2011 05:06 AM (h614z)

9 Anyone want to bet Cape Canaveral will be renamed Cape Gifford?

Posted by: NASA at May 16, 2011 05:07 AM (EL+OC)

10 NASA is so eat up with bureaucracy it can no longer function for its original purpose. As I said this past weekend, its purpose has become a never-ending battle to expand its empire and protect turf.

On top of that, we simply can not afford it.

Posted by: Vic at May 16, 2011 05:07 AM (M9Ie6)

11 Damn space sock.

Posted by: Barbarian at May 16, 2011 05:08 AM (EL+OC)

12 Thank a Muslim.

Posted by: Y-not at May 16, 2011 05:08 AM (pW2o8)

13 Gabby was there? FOX barely mentioned her.....

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Posted by: momma at May 16, 2011 05:09 AM (penCf)

14 The worst part is I'm gonna have to send my future children to Richard Branson's Hair and Space Camp.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at May 16, 2011 05:10 AM (HaYO4)

15 The shuttle program's become an emblem of what's wrong with NASA.

Posted by: nickless at May 16, 2011 05:11 AM (MMC8r)

16 I have mixed feelings on the demise of the shuttle program. It's is a very, very expensive way to put a satellite in orbit, and the vehicles are way past obsolete. That said, we should be scrapping them because we have a newer, better vehicle and not just retreating from manned spaceflight or outsourcing it to the Russians and their crappy hardware.

Posted by: Andy at May 16, 2011 05:12 AM (zcihI)

17 Since BO made NASA interested in Muslim outreach, why don't we fill the last shuttles with war heads, etc and crash them into the Pakistan, Afghanistan. That way they actually get to see the shuttle (if only for a second). Win - win!

Posted by: momma at May 16, 2011 05:12 AM (penCf)

18 Gabby was there. She was shrouded behind a black drop. At least, that's what Bill Hemmer said.

Sorry to see Endeavor's last launch. I can't help but feel its ending and our role as leaders in space exploration is a metaphor for the entirety of the United States of America.

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 16, 2011 05:12 AM (XK4nA)

19
The NASA Muslim engineering outreach program has been very successful, and within the next five years, Saudi Arabia will launch their first space shuttle mission to Mars with mission commander Sheila Jackson Lee.

Posted by: Joe Biden, VP & Space Expert at May 16, 2011 05:13 AM (ndqJC)

20 I can't help but feel its ending and our role as leaders in space exploration is a metaphor for the entirety of the United States of America.

We can't keep our eyes on the stars; we have to look at the muck.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 16, 2011 05:14 AM (h614z)

21 When I was in grade school, my best friend and I were the last two finalists from my area in a free NASA Space Camp thing. She won because her parents could afford the plane ticket and mine could not. (They refuse to give me a week to come up with the funds).

To this day, I'm still jealous as hell.

Posted by: momma at May 16, 2011 05:14 AM (penCf)

22 @16
Are shuttles primarily used for putting satellites in place? I thought they were used for repairs, space-station missions, and scientific experiments.

I agree with your second point.

Posted by: Y-not at May 16, 2011 05:14 AM (pW2o8)

23 Saudi Arabia will launch their first space shuttle mission to Mars with mission commander Sheila Jackson Lee.

I thought they were going to send

Cynthia McKinny

Because she has gone on a trip to Pluto????

Oh, she hasn't come back yet.

Posted by: Vic at May 16, 2011 05:18 AM (M9Ie6)

24 I am not for eliminating NASA, but I would consider sliding a trimmed-down version of it under the DoD. We really should have space supremacy for national defense purposes. So no more shooting teachers into space and crap like that. Just hard core engineering and defense projects. If they want to have a section that's for longer-term things (aimed toward colonizing space) such as human health studies, manufacturing, etc, let that be funded commercially.

Posted by: Y-not at May 16, 2011 05:18 AM (pW2o8)

25 It was such a nice surprise to find the link on drudge. The feed drudge connected to was MSNBC but it wasn't tainted by any commentary, all you heard was mission control and the astronauts.

That was truly impressive. I know everyone says "but it's old technology" and stuff like that but, I'm damned impressed, damned impressed and really really proud to watch.

Posted by: curious at May 16, 2011 05:19 AM (k1rwm)

26 The main thing about the launches that upsets me is that kids have no clue how amazing they are. They don't see the brilliance, ingenuity, hard work, etc that went into the program at the beginning. They know we have satellites, so they don't see these launches as anything spectacular.

A lot of kids these days have no sense of awe or any idea about how big the universe really is.

They do not grasp the fact that we are just ants in this world.

Everyday their world becomes closer and closer. They can talk to people on the other side of the world. They don't have to imagine anything because there is a computer animation that does it for them. They don't have to wait till Sunday night to call home. They don't have to wait till tomorrow to find out the news of today.......and on and on

Posted by: momma at May 16, 2011 05:20 AM (penCf)

27 I guess I'd better get to work on that warp drive out in the garage if we're ever going to get off this rock

Posted by: Zefram Cochrane at May 16, 2011 05:23 AM (vdfwz)

28 here's the drudge link, they are doing "the replays" but you can still hear them speaking occasionally. gives you chills of pride.

Posted by: curious at May 16, 2011 05:23 AM (k1rwm)

29
O/T

The Frog arrested in New York for attempted rape will be bonded because of political pressure, and although his passport has been confiscated, he will travel to Toronto and book to Paris. He will not be extradited, and will continue to enjoy the sexual fruits of members of the proletariat. This is Roman Polanski redux.

Posted by: Fish the Barrister at May 16, 2011 05:23 AM (ndqJC)

30 @26
That's true.

I smiled when you mentioned calling home on Sunday nights. It's funny, that's still so ingrained in my older relatives. When I call them at "peak" hours, they get worried that it's costing too much. I have to remind them that it doesn't work that way anymore.

Posted by: Y-not at May 16, 2011 05:23 AM (pW2o8)

31 We should keep them flying.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 16, 2011 09:00 AM (h614z)

Only in conjunction with the design of a safer heavy lift vehicle. The shuttle was crap -- impressive, and the best in the world -- but we could have done better.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 16, 2011 05:26 AM (LH6ir)

32 And, thus ends the American century if we don't pull our heads out of our asses. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 16, 2011 08:58 AM (B+qrE) Not yet. There is one more launch of another Space Shuttle. Then we put our heads up out asses

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 16, 2011 05:26 AM (i6RpT)

33 Can anyone tell me one thing useful that NASA has done in the last 10 years.

Posted by: Cherry π at May 16, 2011 05:28 AM (+sBB4)

34 Posted by: Cherry π at May 16, 2011 09:28 AM (+sBB4)

They've spent a lot of money, a lot of money.

Posted by: curious at May 16, 2011 05:28 AM (k1rwm)

35 Can anyone tell me one thing useful that NASA has done in the last 10 years. Posted by: Cherry π at May 16, 2011 09:28 AM (+sBB4) Anything to do with the Hubble Telescope. Some Military things. Some of the unmanned probes to other planets. Oh and all that muslim outreach stuff of course?????

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 16, 2011 05:30 AM (i6RpT)

36 With all the third world ballistic missle Tech coming on line it will be more critical than ever to have a continued developement of space based defense. Who does it is debatable, but the need for it should not be.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at May 16, 2011 05:32 AM (Jq4xH)

37 Space is too important to allow NASA to be involved with it. They have actively sabotaged privately funded exploration efforts, shut them down.

Posted by: Bob Saget at May 16, 2011 05:34 AM (F/4zf)

38
They don't have to wait till Sunday night to call home.

In the dark ages, most families had either two-party or four-party lines that required good use practices. Phones were not for gassing or gabbing, but for emergencies. Our family phone was only used sparingly. Yes, it was expensive and talking to the operator was a big event.

Posted by: Fish the Barrister at May 16, 2011 05:34 AM (ndqJC)

39 That said, we should be scrapping them because we have a newer, better vehicle

It's called the SpaceX Falcon/Falcon 9, developed by private industry, for less than the cost of a single shuttle flight, to do specifically what the shuttle, being a government program, failed so spectacularly at - lower launch costs dramatically.

Even the Chinese have said they can't match SpaceX's prices.

People have to stop thinking that NASA is the be-all and end-all of American space technology.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 16, 2011 05:34 AM (fsGgs)

40 All of those "military" functions you folks talk about are really not part of NASA. The military makes use of NASA facilities in some cases but it is separate.

NASA was specifically created to separate the civilian stuff from the military.

As far as Hubble goes I am not sure I would call that a victory for NASA because it started out as a massive failure and was indicative of how NASA has been captured by the bureaucrats.

Posted by: Vic at May 16, 2011 05:36 AM (M9Ie6)

41 They've spent a lot of money, a lot of money.

Posted by: curious at May 16, 2011 09:28 AM (k1rwm)

That's the impression, but the data show otherwise. Take a look at the budget at this link and it will show that we don't really spend an outrageous amount on NASA. Much of it is wasted, and that should change, but I would rather dump farm subsidies than our space program.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 16, 2011 05:36 AM (LH6ir)

42 38 Space is too important to allow NASA to be involved with it. They have actively sabotaged privately funded exploration efforts, shut them down

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I agree! Let's leave the conquest of space to private companies!

Posted by: Google at May 16, 2011 05:36 AM (pW2o8)

43 I hear you have to be married to a Congressman to get a job there now.

Posted by: Cherry π at May 16, 2011 05:37 AM (+sBB4)

44 Some Military things.

DoD hasn't put anything on the shuttle for close to 20 years.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 16, 2011 05:39 AM (fsGgs)

45 I hear you have to be married to a Congressman to get a job there now. Posted by: Cherry π at May 16, 2011 09:37 AM (+sBB4) Well not so sure about that. I don't know much about him, but he was promoted up the ranks in the Navy long before he was married to her

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 16, 2011 05:39 AM (i6RpT)

46
I hear you have to be married to a Congressman to get a job there now.

Posted by: Cherry π at May 16, 2011 09:37 AM (+sBB4)

Humping a Congresscritter also counts towards employment.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at May 16, 2011 05:39 AM (ndqJC)

47 DoD hasn't put anything on the shuttle for close to 20 years. Posted by: Waterhouse at May 16, 2011 09:39 AM (fsGgs) That's not true. There have been a few military missions in the last 20 years.

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 16, 2011 05:40 AM (i6RpT)

NASA sucks, so let's not go to space.

Sorry, not following that logic from some of you.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 16, 2011 05:41 AM (B+qrE)

49 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 16, 2011 09:36 AM (LH6ir)

oh wow. I hate when I'm the victim of the MSM and the administration's ramblings. I thought it was way more. They give you the impression that it's way more.

I agree with you though, we have to stop paying for the obviously stupid stuff. Yeah it's not stupid if you are the recipient, your senator/congressman/woman guards you little treasure trove vociferously, but it's stupid to to other parts of the country. I also thought we were going to cut down on lobbyists, inside, like locusts they've invaded the administration at a record pace.

Posted by: curious at May 16, 2011 05:41 AM (k1rwm)

50 DoD hasn't put anything on the shuttle for close to 20 years.

It was my understanding that the DoD was using NASA for things like SDI and satellite repair. Are you saying that there's already a parallel infrastructure in place operated by the DoD?

Posted by: Google at May 16, 2011 05:43 AM (pW2o8)

51 /off Evil Google sock

Posted by: Y-not at May 16, 2011 05:44 AM (pW2o8)

52
I wonder if president Mcfuckhead is going to announce we must have a shuttle program since were heading into 2012 election?

Posted by: YIKES! at May 16, 2011 05:44 AM (NNf5U)

53 That's not true. There have been a few military missions in the last 20 years.

News to me. From what I read, STS-53 was the last DoD payload.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 16, 2011 05:44 AM (fsGgs)

54 News to me. From what I read, STS-53 was the last DoD payload. Posted by: Waterhouse at May 16, 2011 09:44 AM (fsGgs) There have some missions that had "news blackouts" because they were Military Missions.

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 16, 2011 05:46 AM (i6RpT)

55 Are you saying that there's already a parallel infrastructure in place operated by the DoD?

Yes, Atlas V and Delta IV.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 16, 2011 05:46 AM (fsGgs)

56 There have some missions that had "news blackouts" because they were Military Missions.

Such as?

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 16, 2011 05:47 AM (fsGgs)

57 Giffords BIL, another astronut , was one of the first to blame a right wing extremist after the shooting. Nice conservative family she has there.

Posted by: Barbarian at May 16, 2011 05:48 AM (EL+OC)

58 55 Are you saying that there's already a parallel infrastructure in place operated by the DoD?

Yes, Atlas V and Delta IV.

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So how do the satellites launched by those rockets have a problem, how are they fixed?

And who is developing the ability to colonize space?

Posted by: Y-not at May 16, 2011 05:48 AM (pW2o8)

59 Priorities, people. How do you expect us to pay for all those hospital bills and food stamps for our undocumented immigrants?

Posted by: Jeff Bingaman, D, NM at May 16, 2011 05:49 AM (art7S)

60 There have some missions that had "news blackouts" because they were Military Missions. Such as? Posted by: Waterhouse at May 16, 2011 09:47 AM (fsGgs) I don't remember, but for sure they were with in the last 5-10 years and not 20 years ago.

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 16, 2011 05:49 AM (i6RpT)

61 47, To expand on that, I am quite sure we have no Idea what has gone up in the shuttle over the past twenty years, nor do we know what they did while they were up there. The big expense comes with replacing the infrastructure of nasa. They have some big ass buildings, cranes, equipment that the private sector could not begin to fund. That being said, It is a clusterfuck of epic proportions when it comes to it's management and operations. Maybe a good conservative administration could purge the org of it's left wing bullshit and get back to the business of exploration and defense. Or, we could have Ricard Branson do it, Could you imagine the babes he would have as Astronauts? They would have to change the title Hot Tight Asstronauts.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at May 16, 2011 05:49 AM (Jq4xH)

62 And who is developing the ability to colonize space? Posted by: Y-not at May 16, 2011 09:48 AM (pW2o

You didn't see the movie " Independence Day"?

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 16, 2011 05:50 AM (i6RpT)

63 I don't remember, but for sure they were with in the last 5-10 years and not 20 years ago.

All they've done in the last 5-10 years, aside from a couple of Hubble repair missions, is go to the ISS.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 16, 2011 05:53 AM (fsGgs)

64 NASA is a Ford Pinto.

Posted by: Cherry π at May 16, 2011 05:54 AM (+sBB4)

65 There have some missions that had "news blackouts" because they were Military Missions. Such as? Posted by: Waterhouse at May 16, 2011 09:47 AM (fsGgs) I think we are getting stuck on the word "dedicated" . That 1992 Shuttle Mission was the last "dedicated" mission, but there have been Military applications to segments of recent Shuttle launches and those parts of the missions have been blacked out.

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 16, 2011 05:54 AM (i6RpT)

66 there have been Military applications to segments of recent Shuttle launches and those parts of the missions have been blacked out.

Oh FFS, believe whatever stupid fucking shit you want.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 16, 2011 05:59 AM (fsGgs)

67 If they are not military Missions, then why do they only use active duty military Aviators and Commanders.? Grumman has test pilots, Boeing has test pilots, all ex military. Why arn't they acceptable? I would bet there is a national defense component to every mission.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at May 16, 2011 05:59 AM (Jq4xH)

68 there have been Military applications to segments of recent Shuttle launches and those parts of the missions have been blacked out. Oh FFS, believe whatever stupid fucking shit you want. Posted by: Waterhouse at May 16, 2011 09:59 AM (fsGgs) I don't have the patience or desire to research this, since it doesn't matter all that much to me, but your an arrogant asshole

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 16, 2011 06:02 AM (i6RpT)

69 I am pretty sure we have put up some spy satellites using the shuttle in the last 10 years.

Posted by: Vic at May 16, 2011 06:04 AM (M9Ie6)

When I was at the US Embassy last week, there were plaques on the wall containing patches and miniature American flags that flew on one of the shuttle missions in August, 1990 (if I recall) that helped get Hubble up and running.

I died a bit inside knowing that Nasa's new mission was improving Muslim self-esteem.

My primary reason to give up citizenship was fear of a broke US government coming after its citizens abroad. Those plaques on the walls just made the sickening task a bit easier. I did come to this website one last time before leaving the house to see if the needed revolution might have started....

And let's not forget, that whatever one thinks of the space program, in three years, we spent $5 Trillion dollars on the credit cards and got nothing. We should have at least gotten a moon mission out of all that money pissed away.

Posted by: Stateless Canadian Infidel at May 16, 2011 06:04 AM (Cm/jf)

71 I am pretty sure we have put up some spy satellites using the shuttle in the last 10 years.

Yeah, but why are we helping Google like this?

Posted by: Cherry π at May 16, 2011 06:05 AM (+sBB4)

72 We really should have space supremacy for national defense purposes. So no more shooting teachers into space and crap like that. Just hard core engineering and defense projects.

Posted by: Y-not at May 16, 2011 09:18 AM (pW2o

Amen to this. Space is just one more war front (and aside from being the place we put satelites, that's really all it's good for). We have to maintain superiority in the military sense. Whatever cost there is to make this happen must be born. The rest of that crap NASA does can be done either commercially, or not at all.

Going to other worlds to spread man across the stars is a pipe dream - one we can no longer afford to indulge.

Posted by: Reactionary at May 16, 2011 06:07 AM (xUM1Q)

73 I don't have the patience or desire to research this,

Yeah, I know, you've already claimed you've got a "feeling" that there was sooper-sekrit military shit going on. Facts are too fucking difficult to come up with, so you'll stick with your fantasies. Good job.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 16, 2011 06:07 AM (fsGgs)

74 Waterhouse is right. I worked there for 25 years until I got laid off.

Posted by: pawn at May 16, 2011 06:15 AM (IvZnY)

75 This little cutie was launched in 2010 from Cape Canaveral. Nope, not from the shuttle, but NASA was certainly involved. The X-37B OTV is a classified Air Force project that has never been fully explained by the Pentagon. Some worry it may be the start of military operations in space -- that the plane might some day carry weapons to shoot down enemy satellites. Military's Orbital Test Vehicle, X-37B OTV: Primary Mission: Testing reusable space vehicle Prime Contractor: Boeing Height: 9 feet, 6 inches (2.9 meters) Length: 29 feet, 3 inches (8.9 meters) Wingspan: 14 feet, 11 inches (4.5 meters) Launch Weight: 11,000 pounds (4,990 kilograms) Power: Gallium Arsenide Solar Cells with lithium-ion batteries Launch Vehicle: Lockheed-Martin Atlas V (501)

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at May 16, 2011 06:23 AM (Jq4xH)

It's really sad to think of the glory days of NASA. Those young men did amazing things without the computer technology we have today. I have so much respect for that generation. The crew-cuts, white shirts, narrow black ties. There was something very special about those people and those times. It was a time when common men could become heros. A time when we weren't so risk-averse. A time when failure was not an option. The golden age of NASA is gone. The spirit of NASA now resides in museums and with aged men.

Sure, the private sector will now pick up the torch and will most likely do some wonderful things in space. It's just not the same. Rockets and spaceships will not longer proudly carry "United States of America" markings, but the markings of some corporation - along with their cheesy advertisements.

Posted by: Havedash at May 16, 2011 06:25 AM (sFD5n)

77
I picked up the Endeavor on my scanner! (259.700 mHz AM) I can't always hear the Shuttles being launched-- it depends on which direction they launch them in-- but it was nice to hear it on this occasion.

Posted by: Golem14 at May 16, 2011 06:29 AM (2X8VA)

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 16, 2011 10:07 AM (fsGgs)

Seems to me I recall that the military was indeed going to develope it's own Space Shuttle program. It would have launched out of Vandenberg. I'm pretty sure my brother worked on that in the early '80's.

But it wound up being cancelled after some major problem on the launch pad that they had built.

There was a lot of reporting in the L.A. Times during that period.

Posted by: HH at May 16, 2011 06:32 AM (6oDXl)

79 Good riddance to these pieces of junk. Private enterprise will spread the human race into the Solar System, not the damn Federal government.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe and Mississippi Babe Rescue Team at May 16, 2011 06:36 AM (vrgob)

80 Why are you guys saying "we" when you refer to a federal government agency's vehicles? Get that meme out of your heads. NASA does not mean "we".

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe and Mississippi Babe Rescue Team at May 16, 2011 06:38 AM (vrgob)

Private enterprise will spread the human race into the Solar System..

Odd that you use the word 'Enterprise'...

Posted by: HH at May 16, 2011 06:40 AM (6oDXl)

82 Fox talking head asking former astronaut why we would rely on Russia for the next 9 to 10 years.

That is a bullshit false question. We don't need Russia for our missions. Only for that BS space station that we are financing anyway.

We need to abandon that as well.

Posted by: Vic at May 16, 2011 06:41 AM (M9Ie6)

83 Private companies have put space stations in orbit a a fraction of the cost of the ISS. They are opening the door for all of us. First, the rich will go and play there and then others will follow. Sadly, too many folks who advocate the primacy of private enterprise here on Earth for some reason advocate the primacy of government up there.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe and Mississippi Babe Rescue Team at May 16, 2011 06:48 AM (vrgob)

Why all the bad talk? I know it started before Reagan, but I willl always associate the Shuttle with the Great Ronald Reagan. The first 'Yes We Can' president. It may be old now, but the chills I got when seeing that beautiful ship on the pad lifting off. Truly awe, and nation-inspiring.

I hope I can be there for the final launch.

Posted by: Schwalbe : The © at May 16, 2011 07:14 AM (UU0OF)

85 We can't keep our eyes on the stars; we have to look at the muck.

Going to other worlds to spread man across the stars is a pipe dream - one we can no longer afford to indulge.

I'll be waiting if you make it past the Mayans.

Posted by: Thomas Robert Malthus at May 16, 2011 07:27 AM (4KER5)

86 Someone referenced Pournelle awhile ago. (Sunday Book?)

Basically if we don't get off Earth on this Civilizational upswing we're fucked because they're won't be enough hydrocarbons left for another.

http://tinyurl.com/3j5spxm

Posted by: Thomas Robert Malthus at May 16, 2011 07:28 AM (4KER5)

87 Are you saying that there's already a parallel infrastructure in place operated by the DoD?

Posted by: Google at May 16, 2011 09:43 AM (pW2o

What's government if its not redundant. Military missile tests and satellite launches go out of Vandenburg AFB in CA. Or at least they used to be. Being surprised by one at night is pretty cool.

Posted by: NC Ref at May 16, 2011 08:00 AM (/izg2)

88 National Debt Limit Reached.

This country is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions, real wrath of God type stuff.
Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes... The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together ... mass hysteria!

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at May 16, 2011 08:22 AM (PrXnz)

89 So have they shown a photo of Giffords yet? Or, are they still hiding her away from the public?

Posted by: Tough US Immigration Policies at May 16, 2011 08:58 AM (x/4B/)

90 I'll be waiting if you make it past the Mayans.

Posted by: Thomas Robert Malthus at May 16, 2011 11:27 AM (4KER5)

All things end. Why should man be different? I've never understood the desire to 'save' man kind. It's not our job to work toward the collective salvation/preservation of humanity. Our job is to look after ourselves, our families, our neighbors, and our nation. There's more than enough work in just trying to accomplish that much. Human life is not so awesomely magnficent that we should consider it a duty to spread it far and wide.

Posted by: Reactionary at May 16, 2011 09:23 AM (xUM1Q)

91 Took the motorcycle up to the launch yesterday. Got to see it (for about 5 seconds) this morning. 5 hours there, 5 back, sunburned, bug-splattered, stiff as a board. Glad I got to see the last one, anyways.

Posted by: eThib at May 16, 2011 01:26 PM (E+r9Z)

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