1

No balls, no nomination.

See how easy that was?

2 Yes, but this is all part of our brilliant plan to eliminate the person we are most afraid of in the primary.  It's turtles all the way down with us.  But um, we feel bad about manipulating you guys so bad.  So, you wingnuts can flock back to him now.  Come on, go for it.  He's sooooo dreaaaamy...

3 Two "m"s in plummets... Sinking faster than an anvil on Wile E.'s head...

4 wait, you mean repubs might not want deocrats and the MFM (but I repeat myself) to pick our candidate? Who knew.

5 Is a Plumet some sort of French Fruit? Is Huntsman some sort of...

6 Aaaaaand First!

7 TdP hardest hit.

8 On the plus and the minus side, it's June 2011. We haven't finished with all of the boomlets yet. The MFM has tried to generate a Huntsman boomlet here and it backfired. Now he could still have one. He could propose a GDP spending cap, for instance. Silly and unworkable, but he could do something unusual to grab the spotlight. I still think he's John Anderson from 1980 and is planning a third-party run long-term.

9 TdP hardest hit. Seriously? That's shameful.

10

Posted by: AmishDude at June 29, 2011 07:33 AM (73tyQ)

You're probably right.  I can't wait to see those commercials.

"I'm Jon Huntsman, and I am running for those of you in the squishy middle  who don't really believe in anything.  Together, we can reclaim America.  Or something."

11 pro-AGW. Gone in six months ...

12 He's no Buddy Roemer. That's for sure.

13 RIP: Jon Huntsman, beloved of Frank Luntz's coteries of squishes ("He makes me want to diddle my Game-Boy device like ... forever!")

14 Media praise has become a red flag to a lot of Americans.

And look at Ron Paul's 'We Know You and Don't Like You' numbers.

15

I still maintain that this will be an issues-driven campaign. If you want any attention (the real kind, you know, like from real, live voters and not the talking heads of the MFM) you need to come out and state plainly what the rest of the country already knows needs to be done.

It's really simple: everything that the JEF, Reid, and Pelosi have done since retaking the House has to be undone. If you even act like you want to play Mister Nice Guy with Obama, you're out. Take the gloves off and say what needs to be said, which Huntsman aint'a gonna do against his old boss.

If you stumble out of the starting gate, you may as well just pack it up, take your little balls, and go home.

16

Polls don't matter. Huntsman has tied up the crucial media likablity thingy. It's reallllly crucial. Crucial!

Just axe Jonny Mac.

17

Or, as someone said in the sidebar a couple of days ago

MFM to Jon Huntsman:  mmmph  rmmph gurgle mmph ummpgh ahhhhh

18 The media likes any Republican candidate for one, and only one, reason:  They know that he (or she) will be easy to defeat.  MSM enthusiasm for a Republican is a PERFECT reverse barometer.

19

GOP voters are not going to be dickholed by the MFM this time.  I hope.

20

What a schmuck Huntsman is, he probably was fooled into thinking he had a legitimate shot at winning based on the favorable media coverage.

He has no path to the nomination. None. Even if every democrat turned out and voted for him in the open NH primaires, he still wouldn't win any other state.

I'm guessing he pulls out by the time they reach Florida.

 

George Will put it best, Jon Huntsman is the republican candidate for people who don't like real republicans

21

Hm.  The two conservatives in the race are the only ones who have maintained their initial levels of support.

That is a good sign.

22 How come you slope forehead ingrates don't listen to us anymore?

23 Huntsman is Obama's Manchurian candidate.  And yet another Obama fail.

24 23 How come you slope forehead ingrates don't listen to us anymore?   We don't speak Austrian.

25 Teehee. Could it be that distrusting the Mainstream Media is actually......er, mainstream?

26

You know who would make a great Republican nominee?

John Kerry.

My work here is done.

27 I actually wouldn't mind if Huntsman was the Democratic candidate for president, however I think the Republicans can do better.

28

The more I hear about Huntsman, the less I like him (and I didn't like him to begin with).  I'm one of those low-sloped forehead types that will not vote for anyone that states their goal is to "reach across the isle."

29

Hunstsman would have been McLame^x2 which is why he got all that postive press.

Um, thanks, but we saw that fail in '08 in spectacular fashion.

The squishy middle will go whichever way the crowd goes, hence the name and political positition. If we keep it up and sing the praises of genuine conservatives like Bachmann and Cain, they'll come around.

It's what they do.

30 I wouldn't vote for anybody the MFM tells me I should.  I trust them as much as I would a Democrat. (hell, they're the same thing anyway)

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32 Just wait until Rick Perry gets in the race. The MSM will try to tear him a new one. This should propel Rick to the top.

33

I still maintain that this will be an issues-driven campaign. If you want any attention (the real kind, you know, like from real, live voters and not the talking heads of the MFM) you need to come out and state plainly what the rest of the country already knows needs to be done.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy
.............
Worked really well for Pawlenty, didn't it?

While I agree it should be an issues-driven campaign, it doesn't seem to be going that way.  I just can't figure out the dynamics yet.. weird.  Maybe everyone is just tired of politics and it's too early for most people to care.

34 You know who this helps...

35 I still think Huntsman is an Obama plant.  I have never seen the opposition push a candidate as much as they have pushed Huntsman.

And yeah.. that means they will probably run him as a third party candidate.  But would he take more Dem or Repub votes????

36 "It's almost as if Republicans aren't buying the shit the media is shoveling"

About damned time, aint it?

37 LOL, looks like that PPP poll from SC weeks ago with the internals that said Bachman was on a surge and the more people found out about Huntsman the more they didn't like him has been vindicated.

I have been repeating that myself over and over.

But the new wrinkle in these polls is going to be the outrageous statements from Romney yesterday. When Republican voters start finding out about that (assuming the MFM doesn't hide it) he is going to join Huntsman in the cellar.

He is now in the ratings at -6, even more liberal than Huntsman.

38 TdP hardest hit.

Seriously? That's shameful.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 29, 2011 07:37 AM (lGFXF)

Seriously, we actually got into a semi-flame war with her of Huntsman support a couple of weeks ago.

39 I think Huntsman was targeted as an easy mark by some political consultants who couldn't get jobs with anyone else and so talked this up to him.  They get 6 months or so of high paychecks to tide them over until they can find someone else to latch onto.

40 Not THE ratings, Vic, YOUR ratings. Take ownership.

41

But the new wrinkle in these polls is going to be the outrageous statements from Romney yesterday.

Mitt seemingly has not been paying much attention to the political environment over the past three years. 

Ethanol?  Love it!

Bipartisanship?  Love it!

Surge?  Hated it!  (No one seems to remember that.)

Tea Party?  Never heard of it!

I think the pomade has eroded his brain.

42 Forward to 2012. Does anyone really think Huntsman can cobble together the financing to run a 3rd party race --- a serious 3rd party race

I thought his family had money.  Admittedly I don't know how much they have, or if they'd be willing to throw cash away on a vanity campaign.

43 What outrageous statements vic?

Bachmann didn't exactly shine on TV yesterday either.. with her goofy John Quincy Adams being one of the founders and abolishing slavery.. she looked like a complete retard.  (Can anyone say: flake?)

44 Not THE ratings, Vic, YOUR ratings. Take ownership.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 29, 2011 08:27 AM (73tyQ)

Well since they are the ONLY ratings that makes them THE ratings.

When are you going to do yours?

45 What outrageous statements vic?

You know perfectly well because you trolled about it.

46 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk
.......
Yeah.. I thought he would self-fund..  He doesn't seem to have much of a following, though.  Might be hard to get on the ballot in enough states.

47 My socialist relatives all loved McCain (though they'd never vote for him of course). I'll have to see what they think of this schmuck.

48 I think the pomade has eroded his brain.

LOL, new meme, "he's a Dapper Dan man".

49

No balls, no nomination.

See how easy that was?

That doesn't bode well for Bachmann and Palin, now does it?

50 Ok.. I don't find saying you would work with the other side "outrageous".  That's what I was saying yesterday.. it's a given without 60 seats in the Senate.

51 I don't find saying you would work with the other side "outrageous".

I'm sure you don't given that you are in favor of tax increases.

52 I've never mastered tinyurl. But, last night on Free Republic, a colleague of Pawlenty wrote an article about him titled something like "Tim Pawlenty; The Manufactured Candidate.". I'm interested in other people's take on this, especially those who know him.

53 Mallamutt, I think the plan for Huntsman is still the Anderson plan. Anderson resurged when he did the third party announcement. He just needs to get on 50 state ballots and skate on free media. They'd only need him to shave off some independents in a few states. But I am assuming he's either an Obama plant, Obama supporter or Romney hater. If he really does think he can win the presidency, he'll be out soon.

54

That's what I was saying yesterday.. it's a given without 60 seats in the Senate.

Reconciliation.  It's what's for dinner.

The enemy set the precedent.

55 Just what we need a Chinese speaking guy in temple underwear with billions of dollars.

His arrogance is disgusting.  He won't last six months.

56 47
I think the pomade has eroded his brain.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 29, 2011 08:28 AM (B+qrE)

He's a Dapper Dan man.

57 Huntsman, the "New Coke" candidate.

58 54
Posted by: Vic at June 29, 2011 08:31 AM (M9Ie6)

Maybe I'd have beaten you to the punch, Vic, if I moved my laptop off the floor, where my already abysmal typing skills sink even lower ...

59 43
But the new wrinkle in these polls is going to be the outrageous statements from Romney yesterday. When Republican voters start finding out about that (assuming the MFM doesn't hide it) he is going to join Huntsman in the cellar.
Posted by: Vic at June 29, 2011 08:24 AM (M9Ie6)

You know what would go really great with morning coffee? A piping hot batch of cornbreros, fresh from the oven!

60

"It's almost as if Republicans aren't buying the shit the media is shoveling."

Good news! Maybe one day you can write "People aren't buying the shit the media is shoveling." It is a start, though. 

61 ....probably Monty will ever truly get it.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 29, 2011 08:44 AM (OWjjx)

Speaking of which, did Monty quit the blog?  I haven't seen a DOOM!! or Book Thread post by him a quite a while.

62

Mitt seemingly has not been paying much attention to the political environment over the past three years. 

When I think of Mitt these days, which is not often,  I keep hearing a paraphrase of the Seinfeld episode where Kramer gets fired from a company he doesn't really work for.

"It's almost as if you have no political training at all."

63

Speaking of which, did Monty quit the blog?  I haven't seen a DOOM!! or Book Thread post by him a quite a while.

Pretty sure he's on vacation.

Or dead.

Possibly both.

64 Can we keep liberals and Democrats from voting in GOP primaries?

65 The upside........no one but me, Delta and probably Monty will ever truly get it.

Are you going to make us Google/Bing all of those damn names?

66 Posted by: Tami at June 29, 2011 08:46 AM (X6akg)

He said he was going on vacation for a while.

67 It's almost as if Republicans aren't buying the shit the media is shoveling.

The friend of my enemy is also my enemy.

68 Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 29, 2011 08:48 AM (B+qrE)

Both. I think he was in that Toshiba commercial.

69

Are you going to make us Google/Bing all of those damn names?

Baseball pitchers, Vic.

And why anyone would take Greinke as the gold standard is beyond me.  Cough.  Johnny Venters.  Cough.

 

70 Ooooooooooo, Huntsman's soooooooo dreamy!!!

71 Oh, nooooooo, I think I just jizzed my nicely creased pants.

72 It is as if nothing has changed, and maybe it hasn't, whereby the establishment picks the candidate for us.  My bet is that in the end, it will be Romney or Huntsman, both squish candidates, imo, and we will be wondering how this happened yet again.

73

My bet is that in the end, it will be Romney or Huntsman, both squish candidates, imo, and we will be wondering how this happened yet again.

Maybe.  But if Perry gets in, I would highly doubt it.

74 My bet is that in the end, it will be Romney or Huntsman, both squish candidates, imo, and we will be wondering how this happened yet again.

I will not be "wondering". I know why it happens. The MFM picks our candidate. A lot of us hardcore says fuck you to them, but a LOT of the Republicans and so-called conservatives look at the "press clippings" and call the conservative candidates, both male and female, unelectable and go with the squishes.

Plus it doesn't help that the Republican party puts together Primary rules that tend to favor squishes.

75 Baseball pitchers, Vic.

Thanks, should have known.

76 If Romney or Huntsman gets it I seriously think the Tea Party will run a third Party candidate. Jim DeMint has warned of this several times, as has a number of other groups.

If that happens you can say hello second term and goodbye Republican Party permanently.

Thankfully there is no doubt in my mind that Huntsman has any chance at all, and I think Romney is going to nosedive soon.

77 If the Make Believe Media is for him (or anyone else for that matter), I'm against them.

78 My bet is that in the end, it will be Romney or Huntsman, both squish candidates, imo, and we will be wondering how this happened yet again.

Romney has a chance (although I still don't think he'll be the nominee after a few more months of his magic), but Huntsman has no shot.

79 "He said he was going on vacation for a while." Ahhh. That's what they're calling it these days, I see. I've got an old buddy whose doing 14 months of "vacation". Well, I hope he gets out of "vacation" soon. I do miss the daily dose of DOOM.

80 I never thought I would say this, but if its Huntsman or Romney I may sit this one out. Screw it. Let the Dems own the ensuing disaster.

81

I know that theyÂ’ve done a great job of savaging her and that many people on the right think poorly of her, but I think it says a lot about her character that she has not only survived but thrived through the war that has been waged against her and her family.  If she were run and get the nomination, it would be easy for me to vote for her.

And I canÂ’t wait to see the movie.

82

I was wondering if we could have a Moron Poll of who the Horde thinks will get the nomination as opposed to who the Horde wants to get the nomination for setting up the betting pool interest in how reality matches up to desire. 

Also, sekrit to Gabe: BOOM SMASH BOOOOOOOM!  Nothing like front row on second tier seats to boomy smashy boomy IMAX 3D goodness.   Everything blew up a lot (I'm fascinated that Chicago is now the city of choice to be annihilated), Obama is presented as a joke and it's Bay subtle about how freedom is worth fighting for and compromise leads to destruction.  Also everything blows up a lot. 

83 File Under: Wishful Thinking

Here's a poll, that says the COOTUS beats Palin for president, if the election were held in Alaska today.

But, the same polling outfit shows Palin with a 53% approval rating in Alaska.

While Nationwide, the COOTUS's rating is 42%, and I doubt it's much better in Alaska - a strong Republican state.

84

Or, as someone said in the sidebar a couple of days ago

MFM to Jon Huntsman:  mmmph  rmmph gurgle mmph ummpgh ahhhhh

I wuv woo

85 Posted by: alexthechick at June 29, 2011 09:19 AM (VtjlW)

I would hate to have to pick. I think we have been breaking new ground here for the past 2 or 3 years. A lot of the old "standards" are going out the window. The Party elites hate it because they are losing control but it is going to happen.

When you throw out the standards anything can happen. The last time the country was like it is now with respect to political candidates and stratification of hardcore ideals was 1860. And PLEASE do not take this as a cue to start a damn flame war.

The biggest difference we have now is the differences are not "sectional", they are economic and urban vs rural/suburban.

86

Ok, Vic threw down the gauntlet.  He's come up with THE ratings which are THE ratings until there is another set. The Minuteman rating system is more objective and considers factors identifying a STRONG conservative candidate, not just how conservative that candidate is.  Taking into account Conservative positions (weighted toward the importance of the issue), Recognition, Money, Motivated Support, Judgement, Relative Record, Health, and Public Perception, here are the Minuteman Rating System, version 1, numbers:

Perry: 80

Bachmann: 75

Palin: 65

Romney: 65

Cain: 60

Pawlenty: 55

Santorum: 50

Paul: 40

Gingrich: 35

Huntsman: 20

  

87 Good Morning Rons/ronnettes. 95, I'm with you Vic. This election will be something we have never seen in our lifetimes.

88 96, Hmm, out of the top 3 only one is in the race.

89 If Sarah runs, Barry taps Murkowski for VP.

90 #95

Heh. Last time the country was like this was the 1770s. Are you with the people or the lords?

91 Posted by: Minuteman at June 29, 2011 09:29 AM (hbAPu)

Fine, where is the supporting analysis?

92 I liked Dennis Millers take on him: I don't know much about him, but I DO know a whole lot of shady people are telling me how awesome he is. Because of that, I don't want anything to do with him.

93

The facts change to accommodate inaction.  We are so well served.

94 Vic is right about the urban vs rural.  We are damn tired of the cities screwing with us.  Trashcan man has work to do.

95 Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 29, 2011 09:36 AM (jx2j9)

We have actually been exceeding the debt ceiling for over a month now. They have been hiding it via accounting gimmicks and the MFM is not calling them on it.

96 Posted by: Bob Saget at June 29, 2011 09:37 AM (F/4zf) We are damn tired of the cities STEALING FROM us. FIFY

97 This post assumes pubs listen to or watch the MFM anymore. I think the blog beatings are very important.

98 I don't know about anyone else, but I'm tempted to hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats, figuratively speaking, of course

99 Liberal women and children hardest hit.

100 "When you throw out the standards anything can happen. The last time the country was like it is now with respect to political candidates and stratification of hardcore ideals was 1860" You mean just prior to The War of Northern Agression? (ducks & runs)

101 "The biggest difference we have now is the differences are not 'sectional', they are economic and urban vs rural/suburban." Vic, I'm not arguing with you, but here is something to consider: There is a huge middle-class to upper-middle-class contingent on the left. These are people who enjoy a high standard of living made possible only by the intentional inefficiencies of the regulatory state. Bureaucrats, educators, and lobbyists are the obvious ones. But don't forget the financiers, execs down to middle-management at the too-big-to-fail rent-seeking companies (think GE and Microsoft), well over half the entertainment industry, and anyone in a compliance role from HR to legal to auditing. I am certain that among these groups are many people who would excel if forced to compete, but why should they compete if they do not have to? My point is that economic differences are not a useful discriminant.

102 Posted by: texette at June 29, 2011 09:33 AM (8sD9j) Barry taps Murkowski I need brain bleach.

103 Oh, and there's absolutely nothing historic about this set of R candidates dear legacy media, nothing I say.

Potential First Woman Prez x 2
Potential First Black Prez (not a kenyan mohammedan or whatever). If not willing to grant that, then the first R black Prez
Potential First Mormon Prez
Potential First Prez w/ Swag and 2nd Prez from the fertile grounds of governing the great state of Texas

I'm sure there are more "First's" with the rest of the gang, but I don't care 'bout them.

104 I wouldn't have a problem if an openly gay person ran for the GOP nomination, especially if it were a staunch conservative.
But the fact that Huntsman either has no clue, or is in deep denial that he's hovering about 18 inches above his loafers is extremely bizarre. Creepy in fact, as if no one's told him, not even his beard.

But at least he has respect for the marxist fraud currently usurping the office.

105

Huntsman- Liver lipped milquetoast geek, with all the appeal of a box of old baseball cards left out in the rain.

Good one, MSM. We're all over that.

106 85 My bet is that in the end, it will be Romney or Huntsman, both squish candidates, imo, and we will be wondering how this happened yet again.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 29, 2011 08:58 AM (jx2j9)

If it starts to looks like that then I think we can expect a serious third party challenge in the general.

Tan, rested and ready.

107 111, I see Vics point. He basically said Socio-Economic. In other words the Poor and the Smug.

108 I agree that Obama won't win reelection (not that this is a call for complacence or anything, obviously - in fact I hope you totally dismiss this post as ravings of a loon and work hard to ensure this.)

I've determined this using highly technical occult means. My prediction that GWB would be reelected came true, btw, while many of my friends in the same occult field thought otherwise.

I have no idea exactly what circumstances will come about to ensure this (OK, I can sorta imagine, but not with very high specificity) - all I know is that I've checked the fortunes of not only Obama but several keys "Obama individuals" - Cass Sunstein, Samantha Power, Obama's kids, even Nancy Pelosi.  It is crystal clear that they are not going to be happy campers come January 2013.  I can only conclude that this is likely a result of the changes that will come as a result of a new President.

109 119, Does that mean he will surrender to the Chinese in their language? I stole that but it is still funny.

110 My point is that economic differences are not a useful discriminant.

Perhaps I was not clear, and probably so, as I was trying to be "un-confrontational".

By economic differences what I meant was the permanent welfare class. The people like the woman who was in the news story that someone linked to months ago who was milking the welfare system, Federal, State and city, in Detroit to the tune of 80K a year. People like her and the Peggy Joeseph's of the country who are more than like 4th generation dole sucker who have never held a real job in their life.

And no this is not a dig at blacks. There are plenty of whites in that category as well. In fact, numerically there are probably more.

111 The rumors of Monty's demise are wholly fabricated.  I, however, won't let that stop me from being the best choice for America. Now and forever.

112 I saw Huntsman on FnF the other morning and thought he was a total squish- if he was willing to be part of the Obumble MisAdministration, it tells me all I need to know about this mook

113 He's a Dapper Dan man.

I only carry Fop.  I can get you Dapper Dan but it will take two weeks.

114 9896, Hmm, out of the top 3 only one is in the race.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 29, 2011 09:32 AM (NtTkA)

The Minuteman rating system can be used for anyone in or out.  It doesn't do a comparitive except in absolute terms. It's not a predictor of who will win, it's just a rating of the Strongest Conservative Candidate. In this system Angle would not have been on top for the primary for the Nevada Senate but Christine O'Donnell would have been on top for the primary for the Delaware seat.

115 O/T Is Glenn Beck really leaving radio, too?  What is the real reason he is going off Fox?  Was he fired?

116 127, Nope not fired. He's moving on to focus on new media and his unfiltered message. He has his own network. GBTV. I thought he was staying on radio. That would bum me out.

117 I only carry Fop.  I can get you Dapper Dan but it will take two weeks.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 29, 2011 09:54 AM (GTbGH)

Well, I don't want Fop, goddamn it! I'm a Dapper Dan man! And corn

118 We don't want this to be an issues-driven campaign, except on the very vague issue of "we are truly and utterly boned unless we fix the deficit".  We want it to be a referendum on Obama.  That's why Huntsman is such a terrible choice.  There's no real difference between the two.

119

Pop quiz.

“ [Fill in the Blank] one of the most corrupt, crony-ridden, patronage-ridden, inefficient, silly economies in Christendom. …The state railroad maintains a payroll four times larger than its ticket sales. When a military officer dies, his pension continues for his unwed daughter as long as she remains unwed. Various workers are allowed to retire with a full state pension at age 45.”

Hint: ItÂ’s not Maryland, but good guess.

120

Well, I don't want Fop, goddamn it! I'm a Dapper Dan man! And corn

I'd thank you not to use profanity.  This is a family establishment.

..

..

..

What?

121 132 Mass. ?

122 Actually

Watch your language, young feller, this is a public market. Now if you want Dapper Dan, I can order it for you, have it in a couple of weeks.

123 Rarely has so much ink been spilled about a nobody going nowhere.

124 134132 Mass. ?

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 29, 2011 10:05 AM (NtTkA)

Warmer!

125

Rarely has so much ink been spilled about a nobody going nowhere.

<cough>Ron Paul<cough>

126 134132 Mass. ?

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 29, 2011 10:05 AM (NtTkA)

Hint #2

You are paying to bail them out.

127

In fact, numerically there are probably more.

I was once accused of racism for stating that there were more single white mothers on food assistance/medical assistance/section 8/welfare than black single mothers (or well at least there were at that time, no clue what the numbers are now).  My response was a.  it's a true fact, b.  ummm what how is saying there are more white people than black people on welfare writ large racist and c. pointing and laughing. 

128 For me it comes down to the MOOOORMAN thing. While I don't typically think such things should be the deciding factor, living/working with large volumes of mooormans has left a bad taste in my mouth. They are truly a weird bunch and will throw any non-moorman under the bus. If you are not one of them, you get passed over for promotion, relegated to the sidelines and simply not valued. I am not talking simply about my own psotion, but have observed it time and time again for decades. I ahve seen good people go unhired if a morman is in teh pool of applicants, despite that person's not being the top candidate. I don't want to see that sort of thing happen in our highest office. They are like Stepford people. They are in lockstep with whatever the church says and if you are not in the church...you may as well be an infidel.

129

 They are truly a weird bunch and will throw any non-moorman under the bus.

How do they know?  Is it because you're not wearing one of those awesome Moorish hats? 

130

--More significantly, Huntsman's Positive Intensity Score is down to 2 from 5 a week ago.

Any idea what this scale goes up to?  Is it like 1-10?  Or 1-100?

131

Any idea what this scale goes up to?  Is it like 1-10?  Or 1-100?

Square root of 41.

132

Is teh Fred getting in the race again?

Just joking, here he makes a damn good point about taxes and "fairness".

133 They are like Stepford people. They are in lockstep with whatever the church says and if you are not in the church...you may as well be an infidel.



I'm married to a Mormon, my in-laws are all Mormon and you're a dumbass.

btw, the same lame ass argument was made about JFK and that "the Pope would be running the country"

134 Mrs. Sailor did a comparison for her favorite blog and the made a post out of it. It shows the cost comparing a public sector union stae to a none public sector union stae. It speaks volumes. WI 2 year budget = $66 B Pop. ~ 5.5 million Spending per resident = ~ $6000 NC 2 year budget = $39 B Pop. ~ 9.5 millon Spending per person = ~$2050 It's possible, of course, that North Carolina has NO roads, NO universities, NO Medicaid, NO State employees.....

135 Posted by: alexthechick at June 29, 2011 10:11 AM (VtjlW)

The "racism" card has been so abused in the past 30 years that I can not fathom why it still remains in the decks of the race mongers. I can only surmise that the MFM and a few stupid corporations keep it operable.

136 Hi, I'm Fred, and I'm taking time out from my busy nap schedule to talk to you about reverse mortgages my interest in running for President. I don't care if I'm elected President or not. That said, I feel a nap coming on...

137 Hi, I'm Fred, and I'm taking time out from my busy nap schedule to talk to you about reverse mortgages my interest in running for President. I don't care if I'm elected President or not. That said, I feel a nap coming on...

138

Help me out here: What is being implied?  FLOTUS is a bigot?  Barry is an idiot? The acronym FLOTUS pronounced as a word, is particularly fitting for this person?

139 149, Geeez, I can't type today, That's state and the is they.

140 butt welding & pipe fitting?  I can't tell if that guy's a spammer, or if he really belongs here.

141 108 I don't know about anyone else, but I'm tempted to hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats, figuratively speaking, of course

Posted by: GW McLintock (not HL Mencken) at June 29, 2011 09:40 AM (DdLNg)

 

George McLintock of Massachusetts?

142   #141  is either a lame troll or a lame sock, hard to tell which.  Definitely not in AJ's league, certainly.

  The sorry thing (to me) is that even in my Appalachian woods rat family, there are some who subscribe to that garbage.  Although they no longer mention it around me.

143 New thread up

144 "Perhaps I was not clear, and probably so, as I was trying to be 'un-confrontational'. " Vic, I wasn't trying to confront. I was more piling-on than anything else. My point was that in addition to people milking public assistance for $80k/year, there are people who make twice that or more as union leadership, SOX compliance experts, or EEO specialists. Without the regulatory state, these people would need to look for productive work.

145

by: jason at June 29, 2011 10:18 AM (U3nVV)

Whoops, I forgot to mention Chainsaws and Hockey Masks.

146 #141  is either a lame troll or a lame sock, hard to tell which.


Quick google says both.

147 #141  is either a lame troll or a lame sock, hard to tell which.  Definitely not in AJ's league, certainly.

That's why I no longer respond to that kind of crap from names I do not recognize. Pseudo troll socks lost their allure about 2 years ago and have been beat absolutely to death. A good joke gets stale when you exceed Avogadro's number.

if it is a real bigot troll Ace will be here soon to ban him.

148 159, Well I have worked at a "Chrsistian" owned business before and they certainly wanted you to come to church with them, join in their prayer circles at lunch and so on. If you didn't your opportunities were limited. I agree it's their right as business owners but it does happen. I however, would not bash them or their religion. I made my choice to move on.

149 I wasn't trying to confront. I was more piling-on than anything else.

Oh I know. What I am trying to say is that I was trying to be kinda PC in the post.

150 157 butt welding & pipe fitting? I can't tell if that guy's a spammer, or if he really belongs here.
______

If he belonged here, he'd be using a Barney Frank sock for that.

151 That was a good piece about the Greek bailout. Reminds me of CT. The state employee unions just rejected a deal that puportedly would save $1.6 billion over the next 2 years. The savings projected were based entirely on bullshit, but that's not the point. The tax increases that were the other half of the savings is projected to raise another $2 billion. Meanwhile, the overall spending has actually increased in the 2 year budget by around a billion. A dedicated busway between Hartford and New Britain is to be built on a former railbed, $900 million to UCONN hospital, a state level earned income tax credit etc. are big drivers. Anyway, since the unions rejected the deal (which, BTW, was pretty damn good) the Governor has to issue layoffs. As of this morning, the number is around 5500. In addition, state funds to municipalities is being cut, which will naturally result in higher property taxes. What position has the local media taken? Layoffs will slow economic recovery due to unemployment benefits and decreased purchasing power.

152 Here's the newest smear on Bachmann:

While Rep. Michelle Bachmann, R-Minn., has forcefully denounced the Medicaid program for swelling the "welfare rolls," the mental health clinic run by her husband has been collecting annual Medicaid payments totaling over $137,000 for the treatment of patients since 2005, according to new figures obtained by NBC News.

I suppose they'd prefer that Medicare patients not get care, or just that whoever gives it not be paid for it...?

153

 Avogadro's number.

Awesome reference.  I had to look it up.

Probably the largest number science uses on a regulr basis.

154 169 Here's the newest smear on Bachmann:

While Rep. Michelle Bachmann, R-Minn., has forcefully denounced the Medicaid program for swelling the "welfare rolls," the mental health clinic run by her husband has been collecting annual Medicaid payments totaling over $137,000 for the treatment of patients since 2005, according to new figures obtained by NBC News.

I suppose they'd prefer that Medicare patients not get care, or just that whoever gives it not be paid for it...?
Tell me, now.  Does MN require these sorts of facilities to accept Medicaid?  In MA, doctors have to accept any sort of state/federal insurance policy.

155 Malor: "It's almost as if Republicans aren't buying the shit the media is shoveling."

Warm up the backhoes, ladies and gents. Time to double down.

So, did everyone see what Palin and Bachmann were wearing the other day? Kinda trampy what with their whore mouths and all that makeup, too. Who wants a tramp in the White House? Not saying they are tramps... just sayin'. I mean, look how many kids they have? They can't all be their own. Ask Andrew Sullivan.

156 Posted by: nickless at June 29, 2011 10:28 AM (MMC8r)

Oh this criticism of her is just stupid and just illustrates the vapidity of the left.

If her husband accepts Medicare patients: HYPOCRITE!!!!!
If her husband refuses Medicare patients: HATES THE POOR!!!!!!!

157 Well, it didn't look like a two-horse town, but try finding a decent hair jelly.

158 corny chemistry joke:

Why did Avogadro carry around a phone book?

Because he didn't know his own number!

159 @82 - In the end, it WILL be Romney. This is because, as we speak, the political apparatuses in this country that put boots on the ground, drive GOTV and fund this whole thing have decided Romney is a winner... and everyone in politics scurries to get behind the winner. Secondarily, because Romney can raise crazy amounts of money.

160 2012 is not even close to the 1860 election - there is no "Bloody Kansas", no Harper's Ferry Raid, no Dred Scott decision, and every presidential ballot in all 57 states will have Barack Obama's and Sarah Palin's names on it.

It will be more like the 1800 Jefferson-Burr-Adams race and the 1828 Jackson-JQ Adams contest.  Those were plenty fierce, too.

161

I am partial to Greinke. The real gold standard is Cliff Lee or Roy Holliday.

Bzzzzt.

Verlander.

That is all.

162 A good joke gets stale when you exceed Avogadro's number.

Posted by: Vic

So there's still plenty of room for the Dennehy jokes then.

163 Verlander!  The Tigers look pretty good this year.

164 2012 is not even close to the 1860 election - there is no "Bloody Kansas", no Harper's Ferry Raid, no Dred Scott decision, and every presidential ballot in all 57 states will have Barack Obama's and Sarah Palin's names on it.

NO?

Bloody Kansas is going on in the urban areas as we speak, Harper's Ferry raids are occurring in Oakland, and the courts are issuing "Dred Scott's" on a monthly basis. As for the election process all I have to do is point at that Soros post yesterday/

You haven't been keeping up with the real news. And let me tell you something, people are PISSED.

165 So there's still plenty of room for the Dennehy jokes then.

Well they kinda can be modified from time to time. The Dennehy thing is not so much of a joke as a recurring meme in different permutations.Besides, it is not aggravating as hell.

166 BTW mrp, I didn't say the election would be the same, I said the stratification and "differences" were on par.

167 So Ann Margaret's not coming?

168 Mmmm. How's my hair?

169

Meh, Huntsman is this year's Jon Edwards........very pretty, lots of money, lots of gushing press coverage.............?????...........winning?  I don't think so. 

 

170 If you want Dapper Dan I can have it for you in two weeks. Well ain't this a geographical oddity- two weeks from everywhere!

171 I DEMAND MY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES CREEP INTO THE RACE WITH THE USE OF HAIKU! maybe someday...

172 You haven't been keeping up with the real news. And let me tell you something, people are PISSED.

I know how pissed people are.  And I know my American history, Vic.  The parallels, such as they are, do not conform to a 2012-1860 equivalence.  Sorry.

As for "real news"... well, I reckon my survey of the day's hot topics are adequate for my requirements.

173

 

So what?  Business owners have the right to run their businesses as they see fit (even though our courts disagree and think that private property rights are childish notions).  If they see Mormons working for them doing stuff like this, and they don't like it, they can fire the Mormons.  If you see the owners acting like this, then you can work elsewhere.

I don't mind this in the least.  I don't mind black-owned companies doing the same for blacks or any busness owner doing this as s/he wants.  If it's bad policy, they'll suffer from it.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 29, 2011 10:19 AM (G/MYk)

Not talking about private sector......they are EVERYWHERE in government positions. They are using the government to fund the livlihoods opf their members over keeping actual GOOD employees. I don't care if the private sector mormon hires nothing but whatever he wants. But once you live ANYWHERE mormon...you will understand what I am talking about.

174 The victim mentality among the conservative media is the reason a majority of Americans ignore you. That does not stop the conservative media from sucking up to the "legacy" or MFM, as it is also known here. Look at Ed Morissey and Erick Erickson popping up on CNN, not for their excellent blogging, either, but rather for disseminating mainstream opinions of the tea party, which has been co-opted by the GOP establishment. Why does the tea party exist, btw? Because people still hate Republicans, including their truant base. It is not a legacy media talking about an electable, accomplished, telegenic and connected candidate that has doomed him. The so-called conservative media did their damnedest to torpedo his chances before he had even returned from China. For some reason, he is sold as being to Romney's left -- the same Romney who passed the healthcare bill that Obamacare was modeled after and introduced gay marriage to America as a quid pro quo with the Log Cabin Republicans, which is verified by the NYT. Phony conservatives who desperately want to gain acceptance from the legacy media are responsible for this unmitigated bias. Limbaugh, Malkin, Levin and this site can't stomach a fair fight. They have taken their pay and are now greasing the skids for the "next in line" third place finisher from 2008.

175 The good news is no matter how dirty you play and how hard you try to polish a turd like Romney, you will still lose. You will continue to be irrelevant.

176 TdP hardest hit. Seriously? That's shameful. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 29, 2011 07:37 AM (lGFXF) Seriously, we actually got into a semi-flame war with her of Huntsman support a couple of weeks ago. Posted by: Vic at June 29, 2011 08:25 AM (M9Ie6) Yep, I've been making sure to give this site as little traffic as possible. I've just figured out the timing on the predictable Huntsman hit pieces. Because the end of the fundraising quarter is imminent, I put in an appearance when the thread died down.

177 Ann Barnhardt on Mitt Romney and the stooge phony conservative media supporting him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBXe3Kvg-qU

178

"...excepting Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain"

they're deciding for themselves who they want to lead them!

this is not good.

 

 

179 Huntsman is a RINO, or worse a closet liberal...we don't want either. WE DON"T NEED NO STINKIN RINOS!!

180

send me the head of Sarah Palin.

 

Harrison J Bounel

 

 

181

jon huntsWho?

Isn't he the ketchup dude?

He ran against Bush!
NOW he's running as a REPUBLICAN????

I don't care if he WAS for it before he was for it, I don't take to him OR Jane I ain'tFonda,
I don't give a hang how tagable she was in Cat Ballou...
and Klute...

Electric Horseman...

9 to 5...

Barbarella...

His diced italian tomatoes with garlic/ herbs makes pretty good pizza sauce.

Even with all that....

I want Bachmann.

BY FAR the best choice.

 

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