1 No one seems to be reporting this. For all the claims of "Republicans being blamed," you'd think someone would report that only 40% of the country approves of Obama's handling of this issue.

Screw Gallup!  All the omniscient folk around here just know this poll is full of shit.

2 I wonder how his " Call your congress critter " gambit is working out number wise .

3
President 0.4% GDP.

4 So maybe Obama will actually write down HIS plan?  Nah. He has no plan. Other than the continuing chaos and ruin he is causing to the economy.

5
0.4%bama 2012!

6 Oh, he'll do as he wishes.  But we can make him pay dearly for it.

7 No! Give the Democrats everything they want and FOLD!  That's the best plan. Kick that fucking can down the road again. It's always worked before and it'll work again for sure!

8 Doesn't all this presume that Obama wants things to improve, or to be re-elected?

9 Rabid Ewok Vows To Make President Bleed!

10
>>>I wonder how his " Call your congress critter " gambit is working out number wise .


Not so good since we all know that govt workers begin their weekends on Thursdays.

11 In these circumstances, it may be best to do as the Tea Party Brinskmanship Brigade advises and just slow play this, letting Obama bleed and bleed, until he breaks with liberal Congressmen and starts negotiating something closer to the Republican position. This irony boner hurts! HUUUURRRRTTTSSSSSS!

12 Exactly. I say do a short term deal that expires next October. Let Obama mire in the shit during the heart of the campaign while our candidate floats above it all calling for compromise. He/She can even bash the Repub Congress to look all nonpartisan. Force the Obama fucker to do some pig wrestling.

13 But, but... republicans must give in. We only control 1/2 of 1/3 of government. We must give up now and worry about 2012. We will be blamed for this. We can't win. And so on...

14 I'm not sure Obama would move to the center. Which does he care about more -- furthering a left-wing agenda or getting re-elected? I don't know the answer to that. And even if he does move to the center, with the GDP numbers lately, will it really do him any good?

15 Obama could personally default on the national debt at the same time he raised taxes to 90% to fuel a life size Willy Wonka Chocolate Factory and we would still vote for him.

16
There ain't no one answering those phones.

17 "It's as if you have NO training in business whatsoever..."

18 It's his [extended] birthday celebration and really, all he wants is a debt ceiling deal.

Can't you just let the man eat his waffles cake?!

He sacrifices so very, very much -what is wrong with you assholes?

19

RINOS: Want to increase this nation's debt - they're terrified of being "blamed" for default.

DIMS: Watn to increase this nation's debt - because Marxism requires money.

Tea Party Freshmen: Don't want to increase debt.

What am I seeing here but a match made in heaven between the Dims and the RINO's??

I say - since those two groups are so intent on increasing our national debt - let them craft a bill for RINO's and Dims to vote for!! There are more of them than there are of the Tea Party. Why force the Tea Party to eat a crap sandwhich when there are actually PLENTY of people on Capitol Hill right now who would slurp it down and ask for seconds!?

Let the RINO's and Dims OWN IT.

20 I have always thought that the medias protection of a candidate/pol gets the protected pol in trouble rather than helps long term. First, their protection protects him from real growth as a professional. Second, their protection leads him/her to believe their own bullshit. And third, the pol starts to believe that the medias protection will work on the electorate long term. So I'm guessing we are starting to see Sparky fire up the motorcycle for his death defying jump over the shark. I wonder if he realizes where he is with respect to the country? I don't give him much credit for reading people. He is too busy talking about himself.

21 This debt ceiling debate has been great so far. Remember when Obama killed Bin Laden and was a shoo-in for re-election? What happened to that?

22 Bet it goes up when this is over.

23

The obligatory '300' - a god-king bleeds clip!

http://tinyurl.com/9cho6s

24 Obama's got a written plan we wrote it for him years ago.

25 Oh yeah... long game... Thank god there are some conservatives left with a spine.

26 People hate lectures and incoherent rants, except for the entertainment value.

27

The best way for the GOP to position  themselves for 2012 is for its leadership to be seen smiling and shaking hands with Harry Reid over a compromise that loads a bunch of never-to-happen cuts into the tenth year of some stupid, smoke and mirrors plan.

And then the leadership needs to get on cable TV and lie about how good the plan is.

It's the only way. We only control 1/2 of 1/3 of the government. It's the best we can do.

 

28

Republican's are being blamed by the media and vapid trolls in NYC.  If the media was actually in the business of reporting news that wouldn't be the case.

In these circumstances, it may be best to do as the Tea Party Brinskmanship Brigade advises and just slow play this, letting Obama bleed and bleed, until he breaks with liberal Congressmen and starts negotiating something closer to the Republican position.

And this may be true, but I still think its good that Boehner is actually trying to get something done.  Because it helps with that blame game when people can look up and go "Oh the Republicans are actually trying to do something, but the Dems are sitting there doing nothing." 

I don't think that would be the case if he was playing hardball and just waiting things out because you would be seeing Democrats everywhere talking about Republicans trying to drive us off a cliff.

29

This irony boner hurts!

HUUUURRRRTTTSSSSSS!

 

See your doctor if it last longer than four hours.

30 As has already been said, this is presuming that Dick O really gives a shit.  I think his plan from the beginning was to get us to this point.  And to think.  He still has over a year to wreak even more havoc.

31 But, but... republicans must give in. We only control 1/2 of 1/3 of government.

Hell it's even worse than that.  Republicans in Congress only make up one eigth of one millionth of a percent of the mass of the solar system.  The sun takes up 99.85% percent.

Clearly, we must do what the sun wants.  I recommend offering a still-beating heart, that we may curry its favor.  Perhaps it will bless us with abundant crops next year.

32 Warden, Forget about it. Soothsayer already has.

33

Ima gonna hoist this here ice cold Guinness in celebration of The Vapid One's© rapid descent to the bottom of the polls. I seem to remember it taking much longer for the presstitutes to get Bush down that low.

And, we know that when TVO's reach the thirties, as they inevitably will at this rate, exactly what we'll hear from the MFM.

Crickets.

To resurrect a very old meme, the great Silent Majority is getting even silenterer, but not really. Even those who admit to installing A. Dick in office are fussing to me.

Drink up, y'all!

34 That's why our best play here is to just give them everything they want for 6 weeks--that is, pass another "clean" debt limit increase and force the fight to drag on sans their phony deadlines.

Anything but the stupid as hell Boehner v. 1.0 2.0 3.0 plan.

35

where's the guy who says, " FINISH HIM " ? 

I like that guy.

36
>>>It's his [extended] birthday celebration and really, all he wants is a debt ceiling deal.

This reads like a WH press release. Or something you'd find on a campaign website under the "news" tab.

37 Ugg just had to listen to coworkers drone on about how Clinton had the last balanced budget, and, how Republicans are the big spenders and the party of no, and how "economics 101" says you should deficit spend during a recession. I want to run screaming from the office right now.

<sub>(If you are wondering why I am not on fire to argue with them.
1 I have in the past it's useless.
2. I live in California and like having a job.)</sub>

38 Rabid Ewok Vows To Make President Bleed!
Spammers and concern trolls hardest hit.

39 Please please please don't go all hard-core conservative on me like Drew and Gabe want! I will never recover!

40 Amen, let's twist the knife a little more, shall we?

41 And this may be true, but I still think its good that Boehner is actually trying to get something done.  Because it helps with that blame game when people can look up and go "Oh the Republicans are actually trying to do something, but the Dems are sitting there doing nothing."

Yuppers. One group was fighting it out with each other but at least they were working. The other became the...wait for it...the Party of No! with a lazy as fuck President running around giving 10 minute pressers.

42

It's ok Ace. You are still somewhat young, knowledge and wisdom are acquired over time. When you get feeling a little squishy, like yesterday, just pretend your swinging danglers are actually the size of tennis balls. Or bigger. Then address the question again, and your perspective changes. The older I get, the more I appreciate being bold. People respect it, admire it, and will follow someone who has the guts to stand up front and take the arrows. Think back dude, you did as much as anyone to get the exposer, Weiner *squirt* out of office. Besides him, that is. Remember how you were about the only one who was standing up against the bullshit? Same thing here. The American people are on the verge of being sold out. For generations the Republican Establishment has told us to wait for the next issue, the next event, the next election. Well, those things came and went. Over and over again, with nary a whimper. But hey, Bob Taft, Trent Lott, and Bill Frist got their tee times and were not shunned at the galas in DC. And look where that has gotten us. Doom baby.

Time to plant that flag and reap the whirlwind. We don't need government cheese, they do.

43 This why Dems are always in a BIG hurry to pass legislation.  The longer we have to think about it, the worse the Dems ideas (lies) are.

44 Word on the street is that Barry's a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

45
This whole historic presidency is nothing but a goddamned informercial.

46 >> I wonder how his " Call your congress critter " gambit is working out number wise.

I called Brian "Carpetbag" Bilbray's office this morning and told his staffer that he needs to hold the line.  We'll see what his Mavericky butt does later today (I presume they're voting today).

47

FINISH HIM!

48 Oh and I just realized that my comment didn't include 50% content insulting everyone here that disagrees with me.  Sorry I'll try to be insulting and piss people off in my next comment since that's what everyone loves to spend their days doing now.

49 One thing I'm pretty sure of--there's no calamity if we don't fix it on Aug 2nd. These crises are always exagerated for effect, while the real problems are ignored.

50 Happy?

51

The responsible adults in the room know that when you have an electoral mandate to cut spending, you promise $100 billion in the first year and deliver $357 million, then tell everyone the real fight is the debt ceiling increase.

And when that comes, you backload a bunch of bullshit into a 10 year plan and insult the Tea Party for being all Hobbit like n' shit. 

52

Ya know, when someone else noticed earlier today that Obama made the assertion, "this is to pay for what Congress has already spent", I thought that that, combined with the plan too hot for paper, might be him laying low.

Well, well. He's throwing Reid under the bus. But Reid isn't going anyway for another five years, so McConnell and co are doing the 'colleagues in the Senate bit' which includes deal, deals which undercut House deals, and smearing people as hobbits.

Think about that last one for a moment.

53 But EVERYBODY knows the Republicans refuse to "compromise". I "know" becaus every news organization in the country told me so.

54 <sub>(If you are wondering why I am not on fire to argue with them.
1 I have in the past it's useless.
2. I live in California and like having a job.)</sub>

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 29, 2011 04:02 PM

See, this right here is why I think Lex Luthor in Superman 1 was on to something good.

55 You know, I actually had to search for some sweet sweet Peggy Noonan recent columns. Anybody read any of her recently?At least she ain't defending JEF anymore. Damn, those beltway types are tiring.  Her, Kristol, Krautchair, Brooks,,,, they are simply pathetic.

56 44 Word on the street is that Barry's a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 29, 2011 04:03 PM (tqwMN)

I totally heard the same thing!!

57 The Republicans need to delay this to August 3rd, we need to screw up Obama's 35,800 dollar a plate dinner that day

58 Second look at the Shire?

59
The POTUS is the face of the economy.

That's just the way it is.

That's why Clinton gets the credit for the GOP's balanced budgets.

That's why Bush gets vilified for growing the government in exchange for bipartisan support for the war against terrorists.

That's just the way it is.

60 Purity! Pragmatism! Purity! Pragmatism! Purity! Pragmatism! Purity! Pragmatism! Let's call the whole thing off!

61 President vows to "Endeavor to Persevere".

62 Well, NYSE and NASDAQ are closed.

When is TheOne™ going to tell us about Timmy's payment schedule?

63 The thing is, if President Obama was primarily a politician like, say, President Clinton, this would matter, it would be leverage against him. It could be used to pressure him.

But he's not. He's an ideologue, an academic leftist radical whose worldview defies reality, whose theories cannot survive the real world yet remain unchanged, and whose determination to have things his own way has been virtually unchallenged his whole life.

Sure, the Democrats are sweating, that's why they sent Boehner that letter, hoping to head him off before they had to stand tall before the American people and actually vote. But Obama? He's glassy-eyed. He won't blink.

64

Speaking of polls. Has the Republican Frontrunner^tm said anything about what is happening yet?

65
Posted by: Louis Armstrong

Exactly. It's in God's hands now.

btw, did you know that God controls 1/2 of 1/3 of...

66 Thank Odiety for the weekend    -96.87 (-0.79%)

67

Posted by: That Announcer Dude From Mortal Kombat at July 29, 2011 04:04 PM (0q2P7)

 

Post of the day.  Although if Ace detects hostile undertones he may alert the Secret Service.

68 57The Republicans need to delay this to August 3rd, we need to screw up Obama's 35,800 dollar a plate dinner that day

Posted by: Ben at July 29, 2011 04:06 PM (wuv1c)

For Obama, isn't every day pretty much a $35,800 dollar a plate dinner day? By this standard, we can delay past the next election.

I'm fine with that.

I just don't want the hardliners to go past August 2nd and give in after a week. If they're going to do this, do this.

69 If it bleeds , we can kill it .

70

The best way for the GOP to position  themselves for 2012 is for its leadership to be seen smiling and shaking hands with Harry Reid over a compromise that loads a bunch of never-to-happen cuts into the tenth year of some stupid, smoke and mirrors plan.

 

Please remember this folks.  If Reid/McConnell change the Boehner plan in any way the bill with the changes have to go back to the House to be voted on again.  The House could then strip the bill of what it didn't like and make further amendments of it's own.  Then it would go back to the senate.  This has the potential of going on for quite some time.

71 Wow it'll be hard to listen to Laura ingraham today.   In a week, she went from 'boehner is full of crap.. Tea Party all the way', to last night saying 'boehner is the only way to go!!  tea party off a cliff!! etc!!'

I cannot turn on my android app to listen.  its just too painful.  I like her. 

What do I do?  Oh Lord help me!!

hold... getting a txt from pelosi mcnecropsy

72 Megan McArdle, Peggy Noonan and Ann Althouse are discussing the various ways you can spell Barack Obama using only hearts, flowers and happy faces. There is a run on Pee-Chee folders, by the way.

73
President vows to "Endeavor to Persevere".


 heh

74 55 You know, I actually had to search for some sweet sweet Peggy Noonan recent columns. Anybody read any of her recently?At least she ain't defending JEF anymore. Damn, those beltway types are tiring.  Her, Kristol, Krautchair, Brooks,,,, they are simply pathetic.
  Yeah. Read it this morning. Looks like Peggy has her testosterone up finally. I used to like Krautchair until he started pimping that Sparky was so awesome smart and ready for the job while Sarah was unqualified for VP. Wow, intellectuals are so smart - Palin versus Biden - and Krautchair is measuring Sarah for the Oval Office. Duh. See him at the ballgames every now and again. Haven't read him in a while. He went native. I don't trust him.

75

AAA debt rating?

Fugidaboutit.

76

Posted by: That Announcer Dude From Mortal Kombat at July 29, 2011 04:04 PM (0q2P7)

Post of the day

Eh, it was alright.

77 OT shark jumping fun:

Politico

The tea party's terrorist tactics
"It has become commonplace to call the tea party faction in the House “hostage takers.” But they have now become full-blown terrorists."

78
And another thing:  Just how pissy is this asshole going to be if this mess lasts long enough to throw a wet blanket on his birthday bash?

79
Obama: "I can't promise that I'll try. But I'll try to try."

80 I am in total agreement. Somebody needs to have their birthday party and another vacation interrupted or ruined. Can you imagine if this is still going on, and that JEF is out there smiling, eating ice cream, charging more per plate than a lot of people make in a year, and the media being forced to cover it? Priceless. The optics would be so horrible and lasting, Boehner and the bunch do realize it is completely in their power to fucking tell JEF, quote, "we won", "bitch". Right?

81 48 >>>>Oh and I just realized that my comment didn't include 50% content insulting everyone here that disagrees with me.  Sorry I'll try to be insulting and piss people off in my next comment since that's what everyone loves to spend their days doing now.<<<< That's okay, just go back to telling everyone how wrong they are and if we don't give in, its DOOM in 2012 for republicans...

82 45
This whole historic presidency is nothing but a goddamned informercial.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 29, 2011 04:03 PM (sqkOB)

Yeah, like that one that promises to show you how to get rich selling real estate. Oh yeah, if there's so much money in it, why the hell are you hawking books about it at 2AM instead of having a huge company of drones paid to do what you claim you can teach? Oh. Because it doesn't work and you're actually making more money hawking your shitty book of common-senses, 30-second Google search "secrets."

Like that, but worse. 'Cause at least they're trying to make money. The JEF only wants to spend yours.

83 I wear the chain I forged in life. I made it link by link, and yard by yard; I girded it on of my own free will, and of my own free will I wore it.  Is its pattern strange to you?

84

Yippee Ka Yah motherfuckers.

Let's go

85 Truth is, he should already by up to his ears in alligators of the Guns for Murder programs that he probably knew about and may have sanctioned.

86 O Blowme's new campaign song! http://tinyurl.com/dauypd

87 I hate to say this, but how much of this drop is from whiny moonbats who think he is "compromising too much" with Republicans by not forcing the Little Proggy Destroy Amerikkka Spend-All-the-Non-Existent-Money Plan through by executive fiat?

88 NFL Free Agent Live Tracker

Just in case anyone wants a break from the debt ceiling drama

BTW, Rex Ryan says if Nnamdi doesn't sign by tomorrow, the USA will default on their debt

_{(I'm kidding)}

89 OT stolen

RT @ttagaris: Barack Obama has lost over 10,000 Twitter followers today with the state based tweet-a-thon they are continuing

90 President vows to "Endeavor to Persevere". He originally wanted "Try to Try" but thought extra syllables lent an air of scholarly wisdom.

91
You can't afford not to adopt my policies!

Call now. Operators standing by.

92

I really am proud of the Tea Partiers we sent to Washington, of which I helped send one or two. They've proven themselves worthy of any praise we can give them for standing on principle and not giving in to establishment Pubbies like Boehner and the rest.

It gives me hope that the past midterms were just the warmup for a conservative takeover of Foggy Bottom in '012. This debate is wearing on the country and folks really are starting to wake up.

Nothing like a little DOOM! to make the clueless finally smell the house on fire.

93 Hmmm.... we need to draft Meridoc Brandydrinker to run in 2012...

94
Wait a minute, Mr President.

Are you saying that if we buy what you're selling, we'll make money?

95 I'm waiting for Obama to run to the cameras crying, "Waaaa, the Republicans called me a tooooooooooolllllllllllll! They are so mean. Do something media."

96 I wear the chain I forged in life. I made it link by link, and yard by yard; I girded it on of my own free will, and of my own free will I wore it.  Is its pattern strange to you?

Posted by: the ghost of TARP threads past at July 29, 2011 04:12 PM (oUG6f)

But spirit, is it not enough for now to merely slow the growth of my chain?

97

they only have leverage if Obama is swayed by public opionion ...  Has Obama ever listened to the public about anything ?

Stimulus ... No ...

ObamaCare ...  Hell NO ...

 

98 meh..  there is only so far he can go down.  He's got a sizable base that will remain loyal.

I'm not against trying to make him look bad, mind you.  We should take every opportunity to make people aware of what an incompetent fuck-up he is.

My concern, however, is still the unknowns involved with blowing the debt ceiling deadline.  It could turn real ugly against us really quickly.  If even a small percent of the apocalyptic scenarios turn out true by letting the deadline pass, it could come back to bite us in the ass.  The opinions of the American people can change course on a dime.

99
I guarantee it!

100 Sabbath Bloody Sabbath

101 @72 Hopefully Kathleen Parker's husband doesn't want to bang any of them or things could get pretty hot in the land of the reasonable moderate centrists.

102

Please remember this folks.  If Reid/McConnell change the Boehner plan in any way the bill with the changes have to go back to the House to be voted on again.  The House could then strip the bill of what it didn't like and make further amendments of it's own.  Then it would go back to the senate.  This has the potential of going on for quite some time.

True, but they are scared to death of August 2 because that's when the world is going to end. We are gonna end up with crap I fear.

103 This whole historic presidency is nothing but a goddamned informercial. =============== Yeah, like that one that promises to show you how to get rich selling real estate. You tink dis is supermodel?? Dis my girlfriend!

104 Obama: "I can't promise that I'll try. But I'll try to try."

No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try.

105
Come on, Mr President!

That's really hard to believe. Some say that you're policies are a scam. What do you say to them?

106

79
And another thing:  Just how pissy is this asshole going to be if this mess lasts long enough to throw a wet blanket on his birthday bash?

 

Bet we get another talking to if that happens.

 

"Its my birthday and I'll cry if I want to, cry if I want to, you'd cry too if it happened to you."

107 I hate to say this, but how much of this drop is from whiny moonbats who think he is "compromising too much" with Republicans by not forcing the Little Proggy Destroy Amerikkka Spend-All-the-Non-Existent-Money Plan through by executive fiat?

Who cares?  There is nothing sweeter than their tears.

108 But spirit, is it not enough for now to merely slow the growth of my chain? Posted by: John Boehner Threads I think the appropriate Dickens novel here is "Bleak House."

109 OT shark jumping fun:

Politico

The tea party's terrorist tactics
"It has become commonplace to call the tea party faction in the House “hostage takers.” But they have now become full-blown terrorists."

Posted by: cherry ð

FARC: Frodos' Army of Rowdy Conservatives

IRA: Isengard Raiding Army

HAMAS: Ham loving Army of Sauron?

110 "Yes, but people tend to like their own Congressman -- they tend to reflect the district's leanings, even if those diverge from the national average political leaning -- and so 'Congess' is never on the ballot."

Great point, Ace. Incumbents are notoriously hard to remove except when the country, led by a failing or unpopular president, turns angry and frustrated in an unusual wave election and "votes the bums out."

Infinitely more commonly, it's the president who gets the credit or blame. Congressional popularity is one of those metrics that just doesn't matter... except when it does. Now how exactly do you project that into predictable models? You really can't. It's more of a useless tool for media to try and cultivate a narrative or a bubble to protect their interests whether it be a person or policy.

111 Let it bleed?

Sounds good.
- Polanski

112 This whole historic presidency is nothing but a goddamned informercial.


Posted by: Soothsayer at July 29, 2011 04:03 PM (sqkOB)

You, sir, may have just solved our debt problem.  If we all simply place tiny classified ads in thousands of newspapers across America from the comfort of our 1 bedroom apartments...

113

This country is not alone in having a stupidity of leadership problem.  Looks like it has metastasized into the Chamber of Commerce as well.

114
I stand by all my policies. Just look at all these letters from satisfied customers.

Here's one from Jessica Lipshitz in Peoria: "My life has never been better ever since I went with Obama. Go Obama!!!"

115 Given that this is hurting Obama, Trump and Dick Morris seem right in saying the Republican Establishment types (who I sided with yesterday, but am reconsidering) have more leverage than they are crediting themselves for.

Gee...sounds like what us purity wingnut types have been saying :-p

116
Wow, that is pretty convincing.

117

My prediction:  there will be no birthday bash.  There will be too much heat on O, and he'll cancel it, especially if there's another debt ceiling debate.  The media will then have his back and report that he was pressured to cancel his party by republicans, who are big meanies and refuse to let JEF have a good time.  I'm sure they'll throw in that the party was not going to be funded by taxpayers, and they also won't mention the fundraising aspect. 

118

91
You can't afford not to adopt my policies!

Call now. Operators standing by.

 

You forgot: "But wait, there's more."

 

Or: "Those Germans, they make great things."

119

 I hate to say this, but how much of this drop is from whiny moonbats who think he is "compromising too much" with Republicans by not forcing the Little Proggy Destroy Amerikkka Spend-All-the-Non-Existent-Money Plan through by executive fiat?

Probably a bit but, only from the ones who still have jobs.

Oh, and let A. Dick try some of that 14th Amendment fairy dust and raise the debt ceiling by himself. He's been warned, more than once, that that's the fastest way to get himself impeached.

Personally, I hope he's stupid enough to try it. I wouldn't put it past him.

120 Over on HA, Ed has a entry and this is part of his take:

As I said on the air yesterday in an interview, any definition of “fiscal conservative” that doesn’t include Paul Ryan and Allen West is one that I can’t recognize.

Legitimate stance.  However, I would point out that Ryan has made obvious mistakes, even in fiscal matters.  And, just because West and Ryan are fc's, doesn't mean they necessarily have the tactical approach on this particular fight correct.

West came out in support of the Boehner plan way too quickly, IMO and then the CBO mess came to light.

Now, some may be attacking West, Ryan, et al as not even fc's...I haven't gone that route.  But I do believe our side has played Chinese fire drill with this when passing the CCB and then holding off for a few days and letting everyone else believe that was the final offer was a legit and unused tactic. 

121 Who cares?  There is nothing sweeter than their tears.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at July 29, 2011 04:17 PM (cbyrC)

Because they will be back on board in no time, and meanwhile all the "his smile is so terrific, what a nice, nice boy" voters never actually left.

Do you know what percent of this country is paying actual attention to this "debate"? If it's more than twelve percent, I'd be shocked.

122
Mr President, what do you tell all the people who hate your products because you're black?

123 Raining Blood

124
Great question.

I tell them to buy my product. If they don't like it, they're racists!

125 He originally wanted "Try to Try" but thought extra syllables lent an air of scholarly wisdom. Man-Card. Now.

126 You're gonna have an exciting life!

127
/applause!

128 My concern, however, is still the unknowns involved with blowing the debt ceiling deadline.  It could turn real ugly against us really quickly.  If even a small percent of the apocalyptic scenarios turn out true by letting the deadline pass, it could come back to bite us in the ass.  The opinions of the American people can change course on a dime.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 29, 2011 04:15 PM (f9c2L)

 

I say let Aug 2 come and go.  When people see that the world doesn't end on that date, then the congressional and MFM theatrics will be exposed.   Aug 2 is an arbitrary date set by whom?  Congress. 

129 Ace: "Given that this is hurting Obama, Trump and Dick Morris seem right in saying the Republican Establishment types (who I sided with yesterday, but am reconsidering) have more leverage than they are crediting themselves for."

OK, now you're flip-flopping like a giggle of teeny-boppers pointing out the cutest boy at the beach.

And they're wearing flip-flops.

130 127 You're gonna have an exciting life!     You're gonna love my nuts.

131 The more you say no to the Preznit, the crankier he gets, and his poll numbers go down.  I like this game.

132 >>>My concern, however, is still the unknowns involved with blowing the debt ceiling deadline.  It could turn real ugly against us really quickly.  If even a small percent of the apocalyptic scenarios turn out true by letting the deadline pass, it could come back to bite us in the ass.<<< And now you see how people got sucked into the global warming crap. "but if it is true we are all doomed!" Apocalyptic scenarios never seem to pan out the way they are supposed to.

133 Barky O'Beendoin' in The Midol Touch - it's a bitchin' good flic!

134 Indeed, thank you, Ace, for noticing the leftwing wishcasting on the whole shebang. They think, wish, desire to be true, that the GOP suffered from the 1996 shutdown, which out of touch GOP bigwigs agree with, it seems. As I said earlier, if not for Ross Perot in 1996, we'd be in the second term of Jack Kemp right now.

135 Hey stupid is what we do--and we get pay and perks too!  But, we have positively identified $2.78 in real cuts in the 2011 budget (of course, that's relative to the baseline increase after Obama padded the 2010 budget). 

136

Here's my ad. I remember these from the classifieds in the back of Rolling Stone, back when it was about music more than politics, I think.

"I'm trying to get one million people to send me just one dollar."

137 with that jaded faded junkie nurse (san fran nan), oh what pleasant company

138

I'm like Rush Limbaugh, always on the cutting edge and one-step ahead.

And I never read her, but I thought Althouse was a conservative?

139 132 The more you say no to the Preznit, the crankier he gets, and his poll numbers go down.  I like this game.     Me too. Its like torturing a small animal. Good times.

140 The more you say no to the Preznit, the crankier he gets, and his poll numbers go down.  I like this game.

Posted by: teh Wind

Beats chutes 'n ladders all to Hell.

141 OT: The House Rules Committee has updated their page

142 Lest we get caught up in the euphoria of the moment, let us remember that much of the rest of the world is on the verge of exploding any minute as well. 

Thank heavens there will always be val-u-rite.

143 A sure sign of pending doom is that both Al Haynesworth and Chad Johnson signed with the Patriots.

144 OK, now you're flip-flopping like a giggle of teeny-boppers pointing out the cutest boy at the beach.

And they're wearing flip-flops.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 29, 2011 04:23 PM (r4t7/)

Now now, John F'n Kerry is one of the few Democrats we know isn't into young'uns. 

Now, Maureen Dowd? If she hit a billion dollar lottery she too could be the next Mrs F'n Kerry.

145 After thinking about this overnight, here's what I've come to:

1) The Boehner opposition consists of two factions: The jilted-daughter skeptics and the let-it-burn psychos.  Both start from the valid premise (cf. the CR a couple of months ago) that we can't play the phony cuts/Washingtonspeak game.  The former then want to hold out for a real deal, but the latter say the system is so fucked that nothing matters anymore and we need a new revolution to start fresh.  I agree with the former, but not the latter.

2) Boehner and the other establishment Reps were shitty negotiators with Obama, but I don't think they're actively duplicitous like, say, McCain or Graham.  Still, Boehner screwed up big time by trying to force the Tea Party's arms with this public vote, since it turned into a major PR faux pas.

3) Because of 2, the House must now pass something or risk looking like an ungovernable madhouse.  What it passes does NOT need to be acceptable to the Senate or the Pres; in fact, it may be better if it is unacceptable to them, since they then have the responsibility of voting it down.  The point here is what the Republicans' internal organization looks like, not what they put out.  No one in the public will remember what the bill says if it gets voted down, but they will remember an internal Republican House collapse over (albeit totally justified) ideological/strategic visions.

So on those grounds, I'm happy the Tea Party stood its ground, but I hope that something does eventually pass the House.

146 Apocalyptic scenarios never seem to pan out the way they are supposed to.

Well, sometimes they do...

147 Ask your doctor if your democracy is healthy enough for economic activity. If you take debt in large amounts you should not take Ceilingalis. Ceilingalis may have side effects such as blurred vision, piles, flatulence, and an impaired credit rating. Taking Ceilingalis will not prevent a lowered credit rating. Taking Ceilingalis will not guarantee an improved credit rating. If your credit rating remains erect for more than four quarters, see your doctor. Ceilingalis: When the moment for insolvency strikes.

148 As I said earlier, if not for Ross Perot in 1996, we'd be in the second term of Jack Kemp right now.

Posted by: joeindc44

 

Your vote of confidence is gratifying. Alas.....

149 OT: Obama starts first community organizer FlashMob on Twitter?

150 Come Tuesday , every moron here has more cash in their wallet than the gubbmint .........sweet .

151
Mr President, can I work for you?

152 Bamboozled By Love

153
And now you see how people got sucked into the global warming crap. "but if it is true we are all doomed!" Apocalyptic scenarios never seem to pan out the way they are supposed to.

Posted by: lifeisdeath at July 29, 2011 04:24 PM (4ICEM)

Global Cooling Warming Climate change is too real! AND WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE!

154
hahaha, Ben, you already do!

155 148 Threadwinner!

156

As I said earlier, if not for Ross Perot in 1996, we'd be in the second term of Jack Kemp right now.

 

I believe Jack Kemp died a goodly number of years ago. Just sayin. That and we would have had to have had two terms of Dole (Dull). I'm a thinking that Jack could possibly rise from the dead, but winning a third term after Dull is crazy talk.

157
oh yeah, that's right

/giggle giggle snort snort

158 Better buy it now. I can only give you this deal until Aug. 2.

159

Beats chutes 'n ladders all to Hell.

But it's not nearly as much fun as playing Twister nekkid.

160 And now you see how people got sucked into the global warming crap. "but if it is true we are all doomed!" Apocalyptic scenarios never seem to pan out the way they are supposed to. Posted by: lifeisdeath at July 29, 2011 04:24 PM

OK, so we blew it on the Y2K apocalypse.  You won't beat 12/21/2012 though.

West of the Rockies, our lines are now open

161 hmm, right, let's see, in that scenario, who would've been Kemp's veep? Maybe, we'd be in W's first term after taking up Kemp's oath in 2009.

162 Or would you know the weight and length of the strong coil you bear yourself, John Boehner Threads? It was full as heavy and as long as this, two Election Day Eves ago.  You have laboured on it, since. It is a ponderous chain!

163 But it's not nearly as much fun as playing Twister nekkid. I'm available.

164 Blue Hen: "Beats chutes 'n ladders all to Hell."

Yeah but did you see the Chutes 'n Ladders trailer? Frickin' awesome!

165 Any bill Hobbits write, Boehner writes better,
Boehner writes every bill better than you!

166
So on those grounds, I'm happy the Tea Party stood its ground, but I hope that something does eventually pass the House.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog

 

Well put.

167 Bleed that sucker!

168

But it's not nearly as much fun as playing Twister nekkid.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 29, 2011 04:29 PM (d0Tfm)

I love that game!

If you like adventure
Don't you wait to enter
The recruiting office fast
Don't you hesitate
There is no need to wait
They're signing up new seamen fast
Maybe you are too young
To join up today
Bout don't you worry 'bout a thing
For I'm sure there will be
Always a good navy
Protecting the land and sea


In the navy!

169 158
oh yeah, that's right

/giggle giggle snort snort

Posted by: lolbensmith at July 29, 2011 04:29 PM (sqkOB)

Snort? You got some blow you can share? My stash is running low.

170 The longer the Repubs stand pat after passing this latest bill, the more the Dems will tear themselves up. Let them rant and moan and pull THEIR hair out for a change.
 
It's using the same tactic they have used on us. Should be fun to watch.

171 I really think the "conventional wisdom" is wrong that Republicans are going to take the fall if no deal is made. The media is pushing that message so hard it has to be suspect.
We spend so much time blasting the media for bias, and then we take them as the purveyors of pure gospel when it comes to this. What's wrong with us.

172 I made over half a million dollars last year, Working from Home!

173 "The One" is so full of himself, he fails to realize that he suffers from overexposure. The crap head makes a televised speech every 2 friggin' days, and the American public tires of him. His appearance a few nights ago really hurt him, when he asked us to call our congressmen. Strange, we never heard how many calls were made or how they fell, which tells me the response was "cut spending" and tell Bammy to go to hell.

174 hannity is having a laundry list of congress folks on today and he's happier than a pig in shit, the vote will happen during his program.....

175
But Mr President, you speak of a guarantee but you have no written guarantee.

176 I really think the "conventional wisdom" is wrong that Republicans are going to take the fall if no deal is made.

Agreed - from my take on the MSM coverage:

Crazy Republicans can't finalize a plan!!! 11!!!

But keep in mind that brings up the obvious question, why aren't we talking about Obama's Plan?

177
And?

Is that a question, Ed?

178 And now you see how people got sucked into the global warming crap. "but if it is true we are all doomed!" Apocalyptic scenarios never seem to pan out the way they are supposed to. Posted by: lifeisdeath
..........
Yeah.. I get that.. but that fearmongering is usually done by scientists who are staking a reputation on those predictions.

Somehow I don't get the warm and fuzzies by being told not to worry by a bunch of anonymous blog commenters..  oh well.. looks like we'll see next week!

179 Or would you know the weight and length of the strong coil you bear yourself, John Boehner Threads? It was full as heavy and as long as this, two Election Day Eves ago.  You have laboured on it, since. It is a ponderous chain!

Posted by: the ghost of TARP threads past at July 29, 2011 04:30 PM (oUG6f)

You may be an unfinished bit of html, a blot of spam, a crumb of sock, a fragment of concern troll. There's more of gravy than of grave about you!

180 @146: Two more things:

4) If the Republicans don't implode and fail to pass anything (even an "unacceptable" bill), then Obama will own this.  He knows he does; he's the president; that's how it works.  The buck stops with him.  That's why he want's the issue to go away till 2013.  On this reading, a short term bill from the House that revisits the issue in January will also force Obama to flail around next year when he really wants to be actively campaigning.  Remember, he will still have no plan by then, so even if things completely collapse, that will only point up his incompetence all the more by the fact that the shit has hit the fan and he still doesn't have anything substantial to say besides "raise taxes".

5) If we pass somethign to revisit this in January, then priority 1 for Reps from now until then is to get our message out loud and clear every day on every show at every opportunity.

181 But it's not nearly as much fun as playing Twister nekkid.

Try it in a crotchless Tigger suit.

182
Let me take this one, Mr President.

Ed, if you have a question, ask it. But please stop repeating Republican talking points.

183

Ceilingalis: When the moment for insolvency strikes.

*clap clap*

*clap clap clap clap clap clap*

*clapclapclapclapclapclapclapclapclapclap*

184 West of the Rockies, our lines are now open

Posted by: George Noury at July 29, 2011 04:29 PM (Y+DPZ)

Yes, Hi George.  First time caller, long time listener.  What do you recommend for severe depression?  It's been decades since anyone cared about me and it's tearing me apart inside.

185

173 I made over half a million dollars last year, Working from Home!

 

Priceless.

186
Does the president have a written guarantee for his products?

187 Posted by: loljaycarney at July 29, 2011 04:35 PM (sqkOB)
are you talking about Ed Henry, the guy who jumped from CNN to Fox?  Guess the law says that fox has to employ at least one ex CNN employee and when beck left they had to take on another?

188 Posted by: curious at July 29, 2011 04:33 PM (k1rwm)

Who the fuck cares?

189 We spend so much time blasting the media for bias, and then we take them as the purveyors of pure gospel when it comes to this. What's wrong with us.

Posted by: Iblis

 

I don't take them as gospel. I take them for a rabid dog that hasn't died yet. Until they do, I'm mindful of the harm they can cause. And our politicians probably feel much the same way.

190 I think that the polls are overestimating Obama's approval numbers.  I think a percentage of the polls have people who are lying about their support to not appear racist to the pollsters.  With each poll more and more people feel brave enough to admit they don't approve of the guy.  I think 50% disapproval will be a tipping point where more and more people will be willing to voice their disapproval out loud, without fear of the P.C. Police.

191
Again, Ed, you continue to repeat the FOX News talking points. If you have a serious question the president will be happy to answer it.

Let's move on.

192
/applause!

193 Does the president have a written guarantee for his products?

Posted by: Ed Henry

 

Yes, but you had to be here last friday to get it. And you don't get fruit cup either.

194 175 hannity is having a laundry list of congress folks on today and he's happier than a pig in shit, the vote will happen during his program.....
Posted by: curious at July 29, 2011 04:33 PM

Coming right up! The ARCHITECT Karl Rove will tell you why the Tea Party is destroying the GOP, and how much he admires the Tea Party in principle. (cue Toby Keith music)

195 <sub>This irony boner hurts!

HUUUURRRRTTTSSSSSS!</sub>

_{Posted by: Empire of Jeff, EXXXTREMIST at July 29, 2011 03:56 PM (lbo6/)}

Anyone have any diamonds they need cut? I already chopped down a few saplings in the back yard with it and this thing isn't going anywhere.

196 West of the Rockies, our lines are now open Yeah, hi George. I just heard Population Bomb call in and I have the same problem. Maybe we could get together over a case of Shiner and commiserate. Plus, there are some guys in rubber lizard-man suits climbing out of a hovercraft in my backyard, and I'm afraid they aren't aliens but actually Shadow People. Can you loan me twenty dollars?

197 47

FINISH YOUR PEAS HIM!

198 Ugg just had to listen to coworkers drone on about how Clinton had the last balanced budget

Yeah, that's more or less BS, but whatever.  That "fact" is a good foot in the door for getting Democrats to question Obama's economic ineptitude.

199 FINISH HIM!!!

200

Anyone have any diamonds they need cut? I already chopped down a few saplings in the back yard with it and this thing isn't going anywhere.

Give it to Jeff.  Now that curious is back he'll want to use it.

201 200th Bitchez!!

202 5) If we pass something to revisit this in January, then priority 1 for Reps from now until then is to get our message out loud and clear every day on every show at every opportunity.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 29, 2011 04:34 PM (Y5I9o)

Your belief in the competence of Republicans is admirable--misguided, but admirable.

203 What the hell, SWEEP THE LEG!

204

@146

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 29, 2011 04:26 PM (Y5I9o)

Good stuff, but I take slight issue with this:

Because of 2, the House must now pass something or risk looking like an ungovernable madhouse.

I do think they need to pass something but it has to look like a reasonable and responsible measure to control spending. I do not think they need to pass just anything, nor do I think they should give any consideration as to whether the Senate will pass it or or whether the President will sign it. What matters is that it appears to be reasonable. I think the biggest issue with the various plans of the last couple of days is the backloading of mythical cuts.

This has been raised many times before, but instead of backloaded mythical cuts, why not an immediate repeal of TARP from the baseline and a requirement for all TARP recipients to repay the funds they borrowed within, say, 12-18 months? It accomplishes a couple of things:

1. It reminds people of the hated bailout program in order to get rid of it.

2. It would be true and immediate cuts of roughly $200 billion to the baseline.

3. There is at least the show of having banks/industries repaying that money. Politically this looks good and we can pretend that this money will actually be applied to the national debt (it won't, but if we're going to pretend that the Boehner plan will make cuts in 10 years then we can pretend that this will be for debt reduction).

4. It gets rid of a Democratic slush fund.

205 Who the fuck cares?
Posted by: AmishDude

He/She/It/They can't read your comments either. Sooperdooper seeekret computer auto-filter and all. Isn't technology *amazing*?

206 What none of you suspected is that George Soros works for me. I communicate my orders through chemtrails.

207 Everyone over here! I've laid out a nice picnic spread and an armory of longbows and crossbows.

208 So, um... how do people think this is gonna play out?  Any smart morons got any ideas about what's actually gonna end up being passed, when all is said and done?

Put me some knowledge.

209

 The buck stops with him.

You got that right. There's no one better at stopping bucks from being created than A. Dick.

210

I communicate my orders through chemtrails.

Lighten up, Francis.

211 Hey, where is DEM VET? Just found out his hero had his Silver Star rescinded because while as an undersecretary of Defense, he awarded it to himself. Remember this guy was a Clinton appointtee and a brave stalwart of John Freaking Kerry. Hey DEM VET, come out of the closet.

212 Funny, this shit was a done deal until Sarah put of her Facebook edict.

Irrelevant, huh?

213 Everyone over here! I've laid out a nice picnic spread and an armory of longbows and crossbows.

Posted by: THE Hill

 

Do hobbits use crossbows?

214

Everyone over here! I've laid out a nice picnic spread and an armory of longbows and crossbows.

Oh, I'm down with that.  But I want sifty to give the St. Crispin's day speech before battle.

Imma get me some popcorn.

215 Believe it or not, even I could teach these Congressmen something about negotiating a fight.

216 Ceilingalis: When the moment for insolvency strikes. *clap clap* *clap clap clap clap clap clap* *clapclapclapclapclapclapclapclapclapclap* Every time I used it , I got the clap too .

217 Just thought I would poke my face in here to see what you people were talking about.

218 Come to me my children.

219 Posted by: Casey Anthony Mask Has anyone ever told you, you look like a million?

220 I didn't know that. Did you know that? No one seems to be reporting this. For all the claims of "Republicans being blamed," you'd think someone would report that only 40% of the country approves of Obama's handling of this issue. Posted by Ace at 03:49 PM New Comments Thingy No, I would not think that. Why would you think that? What I hate the most is how the GOP establishment will only occasionally whine about the MBM instead of actually confronting them or going around them. What the f*&# kind of invading army turns around and goes home because those meanies wouldn't open the castle gates?

221 Now that the markets are closed, what's the word on when Barky O's Brain Trust is coming forward to tell the country who will get their goody bags starting next week and who won't?

222

Do hobbits use crossbows?

Yeah, but it takes about four or five of them to do it.

223

Posted by: Y2K at July 29, 2011 04:39 PM (AZGON)

Psst, Y2K...  Don't drink PBomb's shine, there's flouride in it.

224 Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 29, 2011 04:02 PM (0q2P7)

Slash their tires. Get their SSNs and sell them to illegals. Bang their wives (only if they are good looking). Fuck 'em. This shit is their fault.

225 _{Oh, I'm down with that.  But I want sifty to give the St. Crispin's day speech before battle.}


I was thinking something from Julius Caesar. brb

226 Blue Hen, smooth rocks

227 Do hobbits use crossbows?

To the last battle at Fornost with the Witch-lord of Angmar they sent some bowman to the aid of the king, or so they maintained, though none returned.

228 Moody's is now issuing threats:

"MoodyÂ’s Says Prolonged U.S. Debt Ceiling Deliberations Increased Possibility Of Rating, Outlook Change Or Both #DEBT @BreakingNews"

229

What the f*&# kind of invading army turns around and goes home because those meanies wouldn't open the castle gates?

A Monty Python army?

230 Yon Barry has a lean and hungry look.  Let me have men about me who are fat, Yo Christie, get over here.

231 Blue Hen, smooth rocks

Posted by: Jean

 

I never heard of that band. What genre are they?

232 Ugg just had to listen to coworkers drone on about how Clinton had the last balanced budget

Hitler had a balanced budget too, so what!!!

233 Blue Hen: "Do hobbits use crossbows?"

Hobbits use everything. It's more of a question of, "What don't hobbits use?!" Even the Indian-looking ones passing for White.

234 I don't know... do we really want to change jackasses in the depths of the abyss? Can't wait to see where they lead us next!

235 227
I was thinking something from Julius Caesar. brb
Posted by: sifty at July 29, 2011 04:47 PM (ECjvn)

For Barky is an honourable man;
So are they all, all honourable men, —

236 I look at the House and I notice its sorrow While my Speaker gently weeps With every mistake we must be sure to borrow Still my Speaker gently weeps

237 Do hobbits use crossbows?


Yes, but we use their proper name, "Cruxarches".

Well I can draw, but only when I'm standing on a stool

238 "Cowards die many times before their deaths; The valiant never taste of death but once.
Of all the wonders that I yet have heard, it seems to me most strange that men should fear;
Seeing that death, a necessary end, will come when it will come". Julius Caesar Quote (Act II, Scene II).

239 OT but what's with the Google earth coordinates in the sidebar?
  

240 I look at the House and I notice its sorrow While my Speaker gently weeps With every mistake we must be sure to borrow Still my Speaker gently weeps Posted by: George Harrison at July 29, 2011 04:52 PM (AZGON) ----------------------------------------------------------- This right here is what keeps me coming back.

241

235 Do hobbits use crossbows?


Yes, but we use their proper name, "Cruxarches".

 

Not being a Renaissance Festival worker, how exactly can small, barefooted little people charge a crossbow? I would think you would use them as tanglefoot for advancing cavalry and such. No one likes having little people looking up their kilts and playing with their codpiece. Even horses hate that shit.

242 Hobbits use short bows, sillys.

243 Hobbits use a series of tubes to achieve victory.

244 is rush's show just about 85% filler anymore?

245 Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;
Or close the wall up with our English dead.
In peace there's nothing so becomes a man
As modest stillness and humility:
But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of the tiger;
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favour'd rage;
Then lend the eye a terrible aspect;
Let pry through the portage of the head
Like the brass cannon; let the brow o'erwhelm it
As fearfully as doth a galled rock
O'erhang and jutty his confounded base,
Swill'd with the wild and wasteful ocean.
Now set the teeth and stretch the nostril wide,
Hold hard the breath and bend up every spirit
To his full height. On, on, you noblest English.
Whose blood is fet from fathers of war-proof!
Fathers that, like so many Alexanders,
Have in these parts from morn till even fought
And sheathed their swords for lack of argument:
Dishonour not your mothers; now attest
That those whom you call'd fathers did beget you.
Be copy now to men of grosser blood,
And teach them how to war. And you, good yeoman,
Whose limbs were made in England, show us here
The mettle of your pasture; let us swear
That you are worth your breeding; which I doubt not;
For there is none of you so mean and base,
That hath not noble lustre in your eyes.
I see you stand like greyhounds in the slips,
Straining upon the start. The game's afoot:
Follow your spirit, and upon this charge
Cry 'God for Harry, England, and Saint George!'

Exeunt. Alarum, and chambers go off

246 President Obama’s approval ratings have plummeted as the debt limit fight in Congress has dragged on. According to a Pew Research Center poll released today, Americans disapprove of Obama’s handling of his job as president by a 48 – 44 margin.

But Intrade has him up by 25 points today !!11!

247

236 Ugg just had to listen to coworkers drone on about how Clinton had the last balanced budget

Hitler had a balanced budget too, so what!!!

 

Any mention of Clinton bombing Al Quida because he got caught getting a blowjob from his Jewish princess? I seem to remember that had some consequences. I guess that was off budget.

248 So, um... how do people think this is gonna play out?  Any smart morons got any ideas about what's actually gonna end up being passed, when all is said and done?

Put me some knowledge.

Posted by: sandy burger at July 29, 2011 04:42 PM (XyoGP)

 

The House will pass the bill.  It will be DOA in the senate.  The senate will vote on and pass the Reid/McConnell bill, probably tomorrow, and send it back to the House where most repubs will see what a piece of shit it is and start the process of amending or voting it down.  By then, Aug 2 will have rolled around and the repubs will appear to be holding the bag.  Dem and MFM obstructionist accusations follow immediately thereafter. 

 

249 Then imitate the action of the tiger;

What does David Wu have to do with this?

250 BOEHNERIUS. Another general shout! I do believe that these applauses are For some new honors that are heap'd on Barack. EMPIRE of JEFFRIUS. Why, man, he doth bestride the narrow Potomac Like a TARP, and we petty men Walk under his huge ears and peep about To find ourselves dishonorable debt. Men at some time are masters of their fates: The fault, dear Boehnerius, is not in our stars, But in ourselves that we have no underwear.

251 is rush's show just about 85% filler anymore? The remainder is delicious tea!

252 Boehner, Boehner, Boehner, what is Boehner?

253 2000 years of Western advancement ... Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 29, 2011 04:56 PM (G/MYk) Just to be pedantic, Shakespeare wrote that quote, not Caesar, and it wasn't 2000 years ago, it was about 400 or so.

254 Boehner is pretend-controller, yes?

255 Irrelevant, huh?

Posted by: ronno at July 29, 2011 04:43 PM (nQR0p)

 

You'd make a fine AGW research scientist. 

256

The House will pass the bill.  It will be DOA in the senate.  The senate will vote on and pass the Reid/McConnell bill, probably tomorrow, and send it back to the House where most repubs will see what a piece of shit it is and start the process of amending or voting it down.  By then, Aug 2 will have rolled around and the repubs will appear to be holding the bag.  Dem and MFM obstructionist accusations follow immediately thereafter. 

 

Posted by: Soona

 

And then the sky will fall. Or not. If not, prioritization will be the top concern. There will be clamoring for a deal. Okay, says the Repubs; let's kill TARP and Obamacare, since we need to keep SS flowing and the people hate it. Doing these will also help prove that we're finally serious about debt.

257 255
Posted by: George Orwell at July 29, 2011 04:59 PM (AZGON)

Well done, sir; well done! { * golf clap * }

258

Posted by: George Orwell at July 29, 2011 04:59 PM (AZGON)

Good, but I'm still looking for something Paul Ryan would say to the House freshmen...and I think it's the St. Crispin's day speech.

259 Then imitate the action of the tiger;
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Tiger's blood!!! Winning!!!

260 Col. Cal Rhodes: 'Tis impossible to know the end of this days business before it comes. But it's enough that the day will end, and then the end be known. And if we meet again, then we'll smile. And if not, then this parting was well made.

261 so the guys at zero hedge sort of think we might have a constitutional crisis?

262 Not so good since we all know that govt workers begin their weekends on Thursdays.

I usually try to keep a civil tongue in my head, but really, just eat shit.

263 Just to be pedantic, Shakespeare wrote that quote, not Caesar, and it wasn't 2000 years ago, it was about 400 or so.
[cough; cough]

264 So on those grounds, I'm happy the Tea Party stood its ground, but I hope that something does eventually pass the House.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 29, 2011 04:26 PM (Y5I9o)

But something did: Cut, Cap, and Balance.

265 Bleed Barky bleed, you bitch.

266

Thanks for coming over to the dark side ACE come on in the Tea is warm.

At least the Establishment pants pissers could hold on till August 4th to spoil the Lyin kINGS birthday bash/fundraiser!

267 Damn, my first out and out flame on this website and I screw it up with a sock.  Anyway, tough guy, I was at my desk at 0630 this morning and just got home.  How about you?

268 Let's not start chucking each others discs yet.

269

IÂ’m proud of our Tea Party representatives.

 

I wonder how Mike Castle would be handling this had he made it to the Senate. 

270

Thanks for coming over to the dark side ACE come on in the Tea is warm

 

Or something that rhymes with tea

271 sifty@265,

Well that sure beat my speech where I waved my arms maniacally screaming, "We're all gonna die!"

272

IÂ’m proud of our Tea Party representatives.

 I wonder how Mike Castle would be handling this had he made it to the Senate. 

Posted by: jwest

 

Oh dear please don't start that again. Someone started pining for his august presence in a prior thread. Which is strange, since it's still July.

SWIDH?

273 266 so the guys at zero hedge sort of think we might have a constitutional crisis?
Posted by: curious at July 29, 2011 05:02 PM

Yes, and they also think the Tri-Lateral Commission is stealing all the gold to pay off the aliens at Roswell

274 270 So on those grounds, I'm happy the Tea Party stood its ground, but I hope that something does eventually pass the House.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 29, 2011 04:26 PM (Y5I9o)

But something did: Cut, Cap, and Balance.


Which was the work of the Republican Study Committee, FTR.

275 268 Just to be pedantic, Shakespeare wrote that quote, not Caesar, and it wasn't 2000 years ago, it was about 400 or so. [cough; cough] Posted by: zombie francis bacon at July 29, 2011 05:03 PM (oUG6f) You know, I knew somebody in college who never shut up with his "only the upper class can produce art" shit. Nobody liked him, either.

276 279 266 so the guys at zero hedge sort of think we might have a constitutional crisis?
Posted by: curious at July 29, 2011 05:02 PM

Yes, and they also think the Tri-Lateral Commission is stealing all the gold to pay off the aliens at Roswell

Posted by: kbdabear

 

They wouldn't take any more T-bills. Go figure.

277 Ace, why would you reflexively side with the Republican party leaders?  Don't you remember how they treated us like the chicken during the continuing resolution wars?  Maybe if we hadn't let them have their way then, the Democrats would take us more seriously now.

278 But something did: Cut, Cap, and Balance. Which was the work of the Republican Study Committee, FTR. Posted by: 80sBaby at July 29, 2011 05:12 PM (o2lIv) Which is something I've been meaning to point out all day, thank you. The "but if they do nothing" shtick is giving me a headache.

279 The "but if they do nothing" shtick is giving me a headache.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 29, 2011 05:14 PM (bxiXv)

Well, they have not done what they are supposed to. According to Barky, Dems, every TV station, and on and on.

280 Well that sure beat my speech where I waved my arms maniacally screaming, "We're all gonna die!"

Damn!  Torpedoes!  We'll all be dead!

281 Well that sure beat my speech where I waved my arms maniacally screaming, "We're all gonna die!"

Damn!  Torpedoes!  We'll all be dead!

Posted by: admiral faragut actually words

 

FML

282 I wonder how many smokes Barry has crushed out in disgust in the Rose Garden today?

283 Well that sure beat my speech where I waved my arms maniacally screaming, "We're all gonna die!"

Damn!  Torpedoes!  We'll all be dead!

Posted by: admiral faragut actually words

 

Man this water is cold. Freaking cold. I think that my balls are seizing up. Blubbbb.

284 Another reason Obama will not be able to truly capitalize on hitting the debt ceiling and blaming it on the Republicans is that he is, well, stupid.  He should have gotten a substantial and long lasting bump for the Osama bin Laden splash but he didn't because he played it so poorly.  If he had come out and presented the bin Laden hit as a victory for America to be celebrated by all Americans he would have gotten substantial good will for that.  If he had invited W to the White House for a celebratory dinner, that would have created an American icon (and they could have talked about ruining their administrations and the country by spending like drunken sailors).  Instead, he was so narcissistic and selfish in failing to acknowledge the incredible effort by thousand of people over a decade (including the prior administration) that he infuriated the multitude and changed few opinions of himself.

That narcissism that caused him to fail to acknowledge others' contribution  in the Bin Laden victory will likely morph into narcissistic, simple-minded blame shifting that will prevent him from capitalizing on hitting the debt ceiling now.  If I may channel my inner Lloyd Bentsen, you, sir, are no Bill Clinton.  (Yeah, I know, Slick Willie was and is a dirtbag but at least he knew how to play the game.)

Of course, I could be wrong.  Many times I have predicted that Obama would choose the worse of two options only to have him pick a third option I didn't even consider that was worse than either of the other two.

285 Once more into the breech, once more....

286 284 Which is something I've been meaning to point out all day, thank you.

The "but if they do nothing" shtick is giving me a headache.


This whole thing is giving me a headache. The entirety of the conservative movement is behaving in a cannibalistic manner instead of having an adult debate. We can all be good conservatives and still disagree here.

287 Once more into the breech

ISWYDT

288 282
They wouldn't take any more T-bills. Go figure.
Posted by: Is it time for the ONT yet? at July 29, 2011 05:14 PM (6rX0K)

That's because, according to the Cowboys & Aliens documentary that I saw last night, extraterrestrials are huge fans of the gold standard.

289

This whole thing is giving me a headache. The entirety of the conservative movement is behaving in a cannibalistic manner instead of having an adult debate. We can all be good conservatives and still disagree here.

Posted by: 80sBaby at July 29, 2011 05:21 PM (o2lIv)

No we can't! We must all insult eachother constantly!  Because that how you get stuff done.  Boehner must be sent to the stockade so we can throw rotten fruit at him!  The Tea Party members but be destroyed because they are teh stupid! 

290

This whole thing is giving me a headache. The entirety of the conservative movement is behaving in a cannibalistic manner instead of having an adult debate. We can all be good conservatives and still disagree here.

Posted by: 80sBaby at July 29, 2011 05:21 PM (o2lIv)

No we can't! We must all insult eachother constantly!  Because that how you get stuff done.  Boehner must be sent to the stockade so we can throw rotten fruit at him!  The Tea Party members but be destroyed because they are teh stupid! 

Posted by: buzzion

 

Careful. Such behaviors are hobbit forming.

291 Slick Willie was and is a dirtbag but at least he knew how to play the game.)
Of course, I could be wrong.

No, you're right.

292 I'm still at a loss as to why John McCain is still a member of Congress.

293 298 I'm still at a loss as to why John McCain is still a member of Congress.

Posted by: 80sBaby at July 29, 2011 05:35 PM (o2lIv)

Mirages in the voting booths from the heat in Arizona?

294 Now I'm repeating words. *sigh*

295 Can someone please explain zero hedge to me? I constantly see posts to the site, and I have read it several times. Some folks on here use it for reference, others talk like it is evil incarnate. Is there something about them I don't know????? Honestly being ignorant, not starting a war.

296 299 298 Mirages in the voting booths from the heat in Arizona?

Thanks for the laugh.

297 299 298 I'm still at a loss as to why John McCain is still a member of Congress. Posted by: 80sBaby at July 29, 2011 05:35 PM (o2lIv) --- I've always assumed patriotism, war hero (NO, not a fan of him, but it is the only "plus column" I can ever think of...)

298 Boehner is now yelling at the Dems on the House floor.

299 299298 I'm still at a loss as to why John McCain is still a member of Congress.
Because of the Tea party he so happily pissed all over.McCain is poster child for why this is not a game. The game playing days are over. Its now time to cut the budget, not the increase, the budget and  get rid of  any who would continue this charade of selling our children into slaves for big governmant.

300 Sailor Boehner: Boy, you usin' that oriental martial bullshit on me's gonna get real expensive.

301 "Put something on the table!"

302 301 Can someone please explain zero hedge to me? I constantly see posts to the site, and I have read it several times. Some folks on here use it for reference, others talk like it is evil incarnate. Is there something about them I don't know????? Honestly being ignorant, not starting a war.

Posted by: rightwingva at July 29, 2011 05:39 PM (btDMH)

Most people that check it out are smart enough to know which posts there might have something valid vs posts that are fool on loon.  If you see a link to there from a poster named "curious" though, don't bother because she's incapable of determining that distinction.  In fact I'd avoid any link she posts since it might lead to gay pron or a trig truther article.

303 The best outcome for us would be if Obama could be maneuvered into going for the 14th Amendment gambit.  That would throw the last shovel full of dirt onto his presidency.  The Supreme Court would love nothing more than to give him a lesson he would not forget and we would have a nice impeachment to look forward to during the re-election campaign.  Damn shame if he had to spend a lot of time testifying or preparing his defense instead of campainging governing. 

304 Standing ovation, with Jim Jordan among the enthusiastic clappers

305 308 301 Thanks buzzion. Some of the articles I have read are interesting... others sound like very wealthy survivalists cheering on anarchy... I keep hearing about "curious" but I guess I'm fortunate not to get into it with him/her/it. Thanks!

306 80's you might want to move up to a more active thread

307 312 80's you might want to move up to a more active thread

Yeah, I'm behind today.

308 Tell the Spartans, that by their Law, we stand and fight here.... what... wait... what do you mean they are behind us now?

309 JD Hayworth should have been elected.  I didn't really love that guy, but jeeez at some point you just have to send a freaking message.

310 I'm still at a loss as to why John McCain is still a member of Congress.

Its called shitty State Republican Party who can't field a decent opposition candidate.

311 BTW, we had a similar problem in SC the last time Graham ran. Graham used to control the State Republican Party here.

He no longer does and that is why he is hearing foot steps.

312 how exactly can small, barefooted little people charge a crossbow?

Little Crossbows.

313 301 Can someone please explain zero hedge to me? I constantly see posts to the site, and I have read it several times. Some folks on here use it for reference, others talk like it is evil incarnate. Is there something about them I don't know????? Honestly being ignorant, not starting a war.

Posted by: rightwingva at July 29, 2011 05:39 PM (btDMH)

I've been looking for a pocket rocket.  Mmmmmm....

314

the coordinated talking points coming out of the leftwing democrat (is ther any othe kind?) camp are desperate.

If you want limited government - democrats now call you a "terrorist".

That's you budy - you're a terrorist if you want to riegn in the corrupt spending by the corrupt democrat party.

315 Let It Bleed? Debt Limit Fight May Be Hurting Obama

Sure, why not?

At this stage, I don't consider the cretin a political opponent - he's rapidly approaching "enemy" territory.

316 SPARTA!!!!

317 The more it hurts obama the more it helps america to dump this idiot next year

318 I have been quite impressive with your posts, keep up the great work.

319 Dear Ace,

Uh, yes, it seems that you might be FINALLY catching on here. As I have posted at your site before, the debt ceiling issue is like radioactive Kryptonite to Obama and the Dems in general.
And the only real question is whether Boehner, McConnell, et al will be able to insist on a debt ceiling deal wherein this very issue must be dealt with yet again about six months before the national election. - Nothing could be better for the national debate regarding fiscal responsibility.
That's a tall order because not only Obama but also the Democrats in general have as their highest priority getting the debt ceiling raised well past the 2012 election cycle. They may well achieve this goal. But if so, it will likely come at the steep price of deep spending cuts that significantly outpace the ceiling increase and no tax rate increases whatsoever.

320

No Ace, say it ain't so.  Doing an imitation of Noonan would be so unbecoming of you.  Just keep parroting the adulterated, impure, ersatz, RINO line and the countryclub membership will always be there for you. 

 

Besides the roller derby spectacle shows us what the GOP and Democrats truly are.

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