1 It's my nature.

2 hey Ace there's an app for that problem....but in a blue state?

"never"

3 Trumka is guest of honor tonight.  All GOP members should walk out.

4 Stop playing nice. Bring a gun.

Those guards were hampered by their employer's no guns policy. Washington state residents can get a CCW easily.

They should do so.

If we are going to be painted as violent lunatics regardless, we should own that role.

5 I really do think the plan is to just overwhelm the public with so many outrages that this becomes the new normal.

6 If they mean to have a war, let it begin here.....

but it began decades ago, and is increasingly heating up.  Coming out of the Violent Fantasy Closet, many libs are.......

7 please, let it stay downstairs

8 sven10077: Washington used to be a red state before the caltards moved in. They don't have the majority needed to ban firearms yet.

9 This is not the end of the beginning, it is the beginning of the end.
Thank you Presidunce SCOAMF.

10 5,

The goal is to foment enough public discontent, moral confusion, and outright chaos to spark the social upheaval that Marx, Engels, and Lenin predicted -- a revolution whose foot soldiers view the status quo as fatally flawed and wholly unworthy of salvation. Thus, the theory goes, the people will settle for nothing less than that status quo’s complete collapse -- to be followed by the erection of an entirely new system upon its ruins. Toward that end, they will be apt to follow the lead of charismatic radical organizers who project an aura of confidence and vision, and who profess to clearly understand what types of societal “changes” are needed.

11 From now on, all Teamsters must play and complete the game Tea Party Zombies Must Die in order to receive full union benefits!

12 It won't be the last. They want a replay of the good old days and they know that the companies won't fight them if they do this. And Christ knows the administration won't do anything -- hell, they probably tacitly encourage it.

13 That's Alinsky, not me.

14 I'm thinking they're not worried about Rick Perry's Finger of Justice yet...

15 Washington State.  Hippie Land.  Bring that shit to El Paso County, Colorado and you'd best have a trainload of trucks loaded with body bags.

16 Let's roll their union hall and steal their donuts. Its social justice and all so no laws will be broken and no one punished. I bet we can raid their beer stash as well. Who's in?

17 These bastards need to be in jail now! Prosecute them till' they wail like little girls.

18 When is SCOAMF going to give a speech about the New Tone™ and hand out t-shirts again?

And the last I heard, kidnapping is a felony.

19 Assault, kidnapping, destruction of property...all offenses for which the union thugs could be arrested, tried, and if found guilty, do some fairly heavy jail time.

No arrests? Did they call in Eric Shabazz Holder that quickly?

Seriously, this is one of the opening shots in a new period of Osama Obama/union-led violence and intimidation. If the local cops can't or won't handle it, bring in the freekin' national guard and uphold the friggin' law.

Another indication that the Traitor-in-Chief is a stuttering clusterf*** of a miserable failure.

20 we don't take to outsiders causin' trouble 'round here.  You union boys might wanna get yourself a whiskey at Ole' Micks and then get the fuck out of town, right quick like.

21 Yeah....Holder will do nothing, just like always.

22 Come on, guys. It's "sonS of bitches", Glengarry Ross notwithstanding.

23 this becomes the new normal.

Posted by: CaveJohnson at September 08, 2011 03:52 PM (YMc+4)

You make a good point, but I've known this for years.  Every time I think about it I get discouraged--because there is no way to take back the media and the MFM is a huge weapon

I think Obama is so incompetent and the economy so dismal that he can't win.
If I didn't believe that, I would be crouched in the woods somewhere, heavily armed and well-supplied, looking for Targets of Opportunity.

24 Try that crap at Georgia Ports. 

25 3 Trumka is guest of honor tonight. 

When I heard the Trumka thing on Rush I couldn't stop myself from laughing out loud, despite being at work surrounded by libs.  That Obama.  Not only is he a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure, but he's completely tone deaf, too!

All GOP members should walk out.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 08, 2011 03:51 PM (OhYCU)

I'm in the camp that they shouldn't even bother to show up. 

26 Something like that would be a natural attraction for dirty hippies, college leftists, crazy liberals in general. The revolution has started and all that bullshit.

27 Hostages taken, but no body arrested? Funny, dat

28 How the fuck are there no arrests?

29 It won't be the last. They want a replay of the good old days and they know that the companies won't fight them if they do this. And Christ knows the administration won't do anything -- hell, they probably tacitly encourage it.

Posted by: joncelli at September 08, 2011 03:54 PM (RD7QR)

The companies are concerned with lawsuits. The f'ing unions have their own lawyers - hell, they have their own judges. As for tacit encouragement from the administration - this administration's buddy-buddy relationship with Trumka, Hoffa, et al practically screams "have at it, boys".

30 How the hell do you take hostages and cause millions in damage, all on camera and NO CHARGES GET FILED????!!!!!

Seriously, how the HELL?

31

One of the stupidest things about this whole story is that the shipyard in question uses union labor; it just happens to be a different union. 

In the end, as you say, there will be only chaos.

(stealing that from Kratos, natch)

32 I really do think the plan is to just overwhelm the public with so many outrages that this becomes the new normal.

Posted by: CaveJohnson at September 08, 2011 03:52 PM (YMc+4)

Seems to me that this is one plan that the SCOAMF and his henchmen have managed to implement rather well.  My casual reading of AoS, Drudge, and a few other sites presents, on a daily basis, government affronts to the individual, the Constitution, freedom, rationality, integrity and the rule of law on such a level that I think I am living in a European socialist sci-fi novella.

33 What's funny is that the "victims" in this story is another union.  That's right!  One union goon squad is fighting another union goon squad over the right to work the superterminal jobs.

It's fucking blue on blue!

34 Washington State.  Hippie Land.  Bring that shit to El Paso County, Colorado and you'd best have a trainload of trucks loaded with body bags.

This was Longview, not Seattle, and is the polar opposite of hippie land. Douchebag longshoremen =/= hippies.

35 "How the fuck are there no arrests?"

Because the governor is Ms. Gregoire ... a socialist scrunt that got elected via mystery absentee ballots at the last second when she was losing 49% to 51%.

36

I've been wanting to shove a hot coal up the ILWU's ass for about 4 years now. They have been instrumental in Hoffa and the left coast's "green" efforts to drive out the independent owner-operator.

They (all of them) have pushed to have only company trucks (non-union) serve the ports because only big, successful trucking companies can afford to purchase new, or retrofit old, trucks which meet their green standards.

CAC and I had a comment stream going several months ago about the fact that some very good companies hav now climbed into bed with those monsters.

I actually hate those fuckers.

37 IF the guards aren't allowed to carry guns, then give em some bats or pipe.  Union thugs should be treated with the same respect they show.

38 Douchebag Longshoremen lead by criminals and socialists, Gristle.

39 The revolution has started and all that bullshit.

Posted by: YIKES! at September 08, 2011 03:57 PM (G3EI6)

That reminds me.  I know on threads past the 'rons and 'ettes have discussed where the inevitable riots that start the revolution will begin.  I'm usually of the mind that they won't happen where they're expected - Detroit, Chicago, etc - but somewhere unexpected (I sound like an economist).  Has anyone suggested Seattle and its environs as the hotbed of civic discontent?

40

Wait......I thought it was the Barbarians that are at the Gate.

So it's really the Longshoremen? ....I'm so confused.

41

How the fuck are there no arrests?

The BNSF waves a big friggin stick out west. When they start refusing to serve a port because they can't guarantee the safety of their engineers, someone will wake up. And, the railroads have a fully authorized...and armed....police force of their own.

It ain't over yet.

42 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

43

I'm a Seattle native who wishes like crazy I could leave this fucking libtard shithole. Found this on a local news site:

The Port of Seattle is aware that work is not occurring at our terminals today, as longshore workers are not present. Port of Seattle terminals are leased to terminal operators who work directly with ILWU for staffing. We do not know when work will resume. We will send an update at 3:00 pm today.

44 In a perfect normal world, Gov Gregoire would be in federal prison for ten years

45

I don't like what Hoffa said either, but the Seattle longshoremen story seems to me to be an unrelated local dispute that has been going on for awhile, and not really a political story.   We need to avoid the silliness that the Left indulged in when Gabby Giffords was shot:   someone said X, someone else did Y, therefore saying X caused Y.   Wasn't true then, doesn't look to be true now.  

 

 

46 We are living under a dictatorship, really.

47 The only time I have ever been physically threatened (in adult life anyway) was when a teamster threatened to knee-cap me for taking a box out of my car trunk at a loading dock on a construction site.

48 When people mock gun ownership with respect to resisting tyranny, and ask if individuals think they can take on the U.S. military, it is an utter red herring. The immediate threat is private surrogate mobs like these. That's how Hugo Chavez does political intimidation. The 'spontaneous' mobs of suporters pour in and commit assault, and the police just stand and watch.

49

I don't like what Hoffa said either, but the Seattle longshoremen story seems to me to be an unrelated local dispute that has been going on for awhile, and not really a political story.   We need to avoid the silliness that the Left indulged in when Gabby Giffords was shot:   someone said X, someone else did Y, therefore saying X caused Y.   Wasn't true then, doesn't look to be true now

 

Thanks for the concern, but these assholes have a long history of throwing their weight around. AND..... THEY ARE IN BED WITH HOFFA!

 

Did you not read my previous comment?

50 Paging Issa, paging Issa.....

51 The barbarians are at the trough.

52 51 When people mock gun ownership with respect to resisting tyranny, and ask if individuals think they can take on the U.S. military, it is an utter red herring. The immediate threat is private surrogate mobs like these. That's how Hugo Chavez does political intimidation. The 'spontaneous' mobs of suporters pour in and commit assault, and the police just stand and watch.     One more reason to offshore your operations. Its just not safe to do business in the US. Great optics - great message.

53 Hopefully those guards are compensated nicely, at the expense of the longshoreman's union.

54 Douchebag Longshoremen lead by criminals and socialists, Gristle.

I am very familiar with both longshoremen and hippies. Generally speaking, their only similarity is an aversion to work.

55

Technical correction to the post....Longview is about 2 hours south of Seattle.  Much closer to Portland Oregon.  Longshore work has stopped in Seattle but the violence and other criminal acts happened in Longview.

 

56 Wasn't true then, doesn't look to be true now.  

 Posted by: The Regular Guy at September 08, 2011 04:04 PM (qHCyt)

I agree with you, TRG.  But even if the events aren't related - and I don't think they are beyond crazy timing - it nonetheless demonstrates that unions are perfectly happy to use violence to further their ends.  Hoffa's words can only stoke the fires of violent discontent that labor unions are all too happy to break out when they're feeling jilted.

57 yinser: Hopefully those longshoremen spend the next decade in prison. The Union can get gutted after the lawsuits.

58 I lived in Seattle a few years back.  I remember the longshoreman bitching and striking back then.  Even in moonbat Seattle it seemed like they weren't getting a ton of sympathy when people figured out most of them were making 6 figures to do primarily un-skilled labor. 

59 Gristle: The longshoremen bathe once in a while, aren't metrosexuals, and drink beer instead of smoking pot.

One of my grandfathers was one ... he was infamous for bullshit workers comp claims in the Portland area. He finally claimed 100% disability when they went to containers and he couldn't loot "broken" boxes anymore.

Not a lot of other differences.

60 You can shoot a fool committing a felony in WA:

Homicide is also justifiable when committed either:

     (1) In the lawful defense of the slayer, or his or her husband, wife, parent, child, brother, or sister, or of any other person in his presence or company, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design on the part of the person slain to commit a felony or to do some great personal injury to the slayer or to any such person, and there is imminent danger of such design being accomplished; or

     (2) In the actual resistance of an attempt to commit a felony upon the slayer, in his presence, or upon or in a dwelling, or other place of abode, in which he is.

Changes:  (minor)

Sec. 354. RCW 9A.16.050 and 1975 1st ex.s. c 260 s 9A.16.050 are each amended to read as follows:  Homicide is also justifiable when committed either: (1) In the lawful defense of the slayer, or his or her husband, wife, parent, child, brother, or sister, or of any other person in his or her presence or company, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design on the part of the person slain to commit a felony or to do some great personal injury to the slayer or to any such person, and there is imminent danger of such design being accomplished;  or  (2) In the actual resistance of an attempt to commit a felony upon the slayer, in his or her presence, or upon or in a dwelling, or other place of abode, in which he or she is.

In other words, the security guards could have used deadly force to prevent a felony (kidnapping).

61

The BNSF waves a big friggin stick out west. When they start refusing to serve a port because they can't guarantee the safety of their engineers, someone will wake up. And, the railroads have a fully authorized...and armed....police force of their own.

It ain't over yet.

Those trains shouldn't have stopped when they saw those animals on the tracks dumping grain.  They should have run every one of those thugs over and just kept on schedule. 

62 I lived in Seattle a few years back.  I remember the longshoreman bitching and striking back then.  Even in moonbat Seattle it seemed like they weren't getting a ton of sympathy when people figured out most of them were making 6 figures to do primarily un-skilled labor. 

Posted by: yinzer at September 08, 2011 04:10 PM (/Mla1)

Sort of like teachers then.

63 Okay, my italics don't work!

64 Obviously this was a bunch of astroturfed teabagger terrorists in a Koch-financed false flag operation.

65 tangonine: they knew the guards were unarmed. Union thugs don't try private violence against "scabs" in the PNW ... they would get shot to pieces.

OR and WA vote blue, but still have red state laws.

66

Just remember comrades it's the Tea Party and conservatives that are the violent ones. The left is all happiness and sunshine

67 As a lass, my first day at my first job was being introduced to entire crew, both office and shipping. Everyone was so nice, I could not believe my luck. I mentioned this to someone in the office. I was informed that just one week prior, the shipping dept. (union) went on strike and slashed everyone's tires (office). Since then, I've kept a cold-hard look at union people. Never was it pretty, never.

68 I'm not in any way excusing or minimizing what happened, but unions do this kind of shit a lot, and it rarely gets reported.

69

Can the victims force criminal charges to be filed at all, or are they limited to civil action if they do anything at all?

The financial DOOM has been a downer for some time but that seems to have lots of bloodless solutions. This crap and the flash mobs I have a hard time seeing any sort of solution as bloodless in the long run. Either those attacking will escalate to that point, or someone pushed too far will try defending themselves. Just I'm just getting depressed lately as there's been so much cultural DOOM of America. My hope is a new president that actually shares American values and cultural norms will start a trickle down effect that will neutralize these assholes before it goes past the point of no return.

70 What I find scary are all the police departments and sheriff offices represented by the Teamsters.  

71 68 tangonine: they knew the guards were unarmed. Union thugs don't try private violence against "scabs" in the PNW ... they would get shot to pieces.

OR and WA vote blue, but still have red state laws.

Posted by: Kristopher at September 08, 2011 04:16 PM (Z3y1K)

Washington State has open carry (all 57 states(!) must), and it's not that restrictive.  Though my state (Colorado) doesn't have a CC reciprocity with WA, I've looked at their open carry laws and any security firm could allow their employees to open carry.

72 Only 18 commie states don't have reciprocity with CO.    Means 'em fkers are on their own once the shootin starts.

73 Store the vids, beat the SCFOAMF in 2012, then send the FBI in. Arrest, try, convict, and hang the kidnappers. Hang the rest as accomplices to the same.

74 Longview is not Seattle -- is sorta just across the Columbia from Portland OR.  Protesters have been arrested.   My brother works nearby (not grain, but another shipping yard) and reports:  Things are crazy here, too.

75 And as a Steeler fan, knowing I have to race through Ohio (knew you Browns were commies!) to get to Pennsylvania where my CC is good... I just need to know which non-american-made car is best for that trip? 

Thinking a Nissan or a Mercedes...

76 "My hope is a new president that actually shares American values and cultural norms will start a trickle down effect that will neutralize these assholes before it goes past the point of no return." Obama is merely a symptom. The 52 are the disease.

77 What is also very interesting is the fact that the FBI raid took place today.......on a day when no White House press briefing was scheduled due to the SCOAMF joint session speech.  This effectively insures there will be no questions regarding the raid in the next few days.  All the questions from the press tomorrow will be in reference to the SCOAMF speech.  The raid will be all but forgotten.

78 The fact that this is NOT front page national news is very telling.

79 though, hell.  Who am I kidding.  It won't be a Mercedes.  I was rich once, but now... not so much.  unless Mercedes makes a really good bicycle under $1K...

80 78 . I just need to know which non-american-made car is best for that trip? Non-American car? Chevy. Any GM. Or Chrysler. They're Soviet.

81

One of the stupidest things about this whole story is that the shipyard in question uses union labor; it just happens to be a different union. 

 

They said that in the end times people would resort to cannibalism.  I'd have to say we are there.  And yes, blue on blue violence is full of irony (as were the clubs the longshoremen used to beat their "colleagues" with).

82 If there's any justice, this would result in de-certifying both unions.  It won't, of course.  A pox on both their Unions.

83 83 78 . I just need to know which non-american-made car is best for that trip?



Non-American car? Chevy. Any GM. Or Chrysler. They're Soviet.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at September 08, 2011 04:30 PM (1XvsQ)

I saw some idiot with two massive flags off his FORD pickup yesterday:  One said GMC and the other was the Rebel Flag.  You just can't buy that kind of stupid nowdays.  I could write a dissertation on 1 stoplight encounter and human behavior.

84

BUT SARAH PALIN USED CROSSHAIRS IN AN AD!!!111!!!ELEVENTY!!

 

 

85 Longshoreman are total bastards.  They held SoCal hostage about 10 years ago with a labor dispute at the longbeach yard.  Barges were in a ship traffic jam for miles out to sea, with costs of billions to the economy each day.  They didn't care.  Afterwords, many companies pulled out of longbeach because of this nonsense and many shipyards in that general area are vacant because of it.  BTW, this is Maxine Waters' district I believe.  She helped drive out crucial business and left generations of people without jobs.  She is so stupid she doesn't have a clue what she did wrong.  She thought having town hall meetings with conspiracy nuts who made up shit about the CIA selling crack to kids was a pressing issue.  No joke.  How she isn't laughed out of the room is beyond me

And I gotta say, I used to have an acquaintance who was a longshoreman.. He only worked 3 days a week and smoked pot all day and did nothing.. but somehow always had the newest car, the best stereo system, etc.. etc.. They are spoiled douchbags who threw a temper tantrum and helped destroy CA's economy.  Nice job guys!  If there were any justice, the noose building union should have had a nice increase in membership after this.  All of them should have been hanged from the many cranes they left behind for the damage they did

86 86 83 78 . I just need to know which non-american-made car is best for that trip?



Non-American car? Chevy. Any GM. Or Chrysler. They're Soviet.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at September 08, 2011 04:30 PM (1XvsQ)

I saw some idiot with two massive flags off his FORD pickup yesterday:  One said GMC and the other was the Rebel Flag.  You just can't buy that kind of stupid nowdays.  I could write a dissertation on 1 stoplight encounter and human behavior.

Posted by: tangonine at September 08, 2011 04:32 PM (x3YFz)

The iPhone was wedged in-between my students' homework and a bottle of Ole' Grandad, so I didn't have time to capture that moment in human evolution.

87

And I gotta say, I used to have an acquaintance who was a longshoreman.. He only worked 3 days a week and smoked pot all day and did nothing.. but somehow always had the newest car, the best stereo system, etc.. etc.. They are spoiled douchbags who threw a temper tantrum and helped destroy CA's economy.  Nice job guys!  If there were any justice, the noose building union should have had a nice increase in membership after this.  All of them should have been hanged from the many cranes they left behind for the damage they did

I have a friend who's ex is a longshoreman.  He hardly ever worked.  It's like a giant pyramid scheme.  The longer you have been there, the less you have to do (and you always get first choice of what job you are going to do).  The losers on the bottom are the ones doing all the work.  He also had the most generous healthcare benefits ever.  I'm sure they are getting a waiver from Obamacare.

 

88 Declare an insurrection, call out the State Guard, and shoot them all.  It can't be that difficult to wipe out a Union BN (500 is about the size of a battalion).  As soon as you see the mob coming, you hit them with mortars from 400 yards.  The survivors get shot by helicopter.  :->

LOL, you know who's suffering most from this?  Washington State, good ol' Obama supporters.  F'em.

89 I haven't read all the comments but I just love the captions to those photos.  Sheriff grabs a union worker by the throat....   Police grab a union worker....

Cuz, I'm sure the Sheriff wasn't keeping the protester at a distance and that police just decided to arbitrarily grab a union worker.  Teh pOlIcE sTaTe!!11!!

90

Longshoreman are total bastards.  They held SoCal hostage about 10 years ago with a labor dispute at the longbeach yard.  Barges were in a ship traffic jam for miles out to sea, with costs of billions to the economy each day.  They didn't care.  Afterwords, many companies pulled out of longbeach because of this nonsense and many shipyards in that general area are vacant because of it. 

THIS is what got the Mexicans started down the Punta Colonet path.

91 Ace  I am a union retiree and  am so offended by both the local and the police/prosecutors reaction,  Vidoe and arrest these criminals and they are criminals.  Peaceful assembly is one thing.  Vandalism, kidnapping and destruction of property is another.

92 No arrests?  WTF.  They held 6 guards "hostage" for some period of time.  I thought that was kidnapping and/or unlawful restraint or something.  Those things are ususally called, like, felonies or stuff.  Union cops maybe, taking care of their brothers instead of doing their f'n jobs?

93 Interstate commerce anyone?

94

At least the scabs are providing work at market wages.

No jobs have been lost, just the shitty crooked union ones.

95 These must be those loyal union members who are keeping the barbarians at the gates? Feh.

96 Not to put too fine of a point on it, but Longview isn't anywhere near Seattle. Longview is down on the Columbia river across from Oregon.

97 Anybody notice in pic #6 that the gentle union person's sign just happens to be a baseball bat? Wouldn't that be handy to start the war.

98 There is no law.

Otherwise, these gentlemen would be in jail waiting trial for kidnapping, assault, terrorist threats, etc.

5-15 + years.

There is no law.

99 Train shoulda kept on rollin'....

100 This web site is my breathing in, really fantastic pattern and perfect subject matter.

101 Longview is not in Seattle.  It's actually very close to Portland, about 45 minutes up I-5, on the Columbia River.

102

ObamaÂ’s union pals can commit violence, take hostages, and vandalize, but no one gets arrested. Big surprise.

Obama gave his stamp of approval on Jimmy Hoffa’s declaration of war on Tea Party “sons of bitches”, and while Trumka’s goons are committing violent crimes, he’s holding court at Obama’s speech.

Nary a peep out of the MSM over this.   The leftwing hacks in the media didnÂ’t raise any hell over the violence and death threats by union thugs in Wisconsin or when a non-union business owner was shot outside his home.

The police are useless, and ObamaÂ’s regime supports these union brownshirts.   Businesses and employees will have to start arming themselves and shoot to kill.

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