1 It wasn't me

2 repeating myself, Claire Berlinski has an interesting podcast on this over at Ricochet.com

3 Relax folks, Hillary condemned the violence, so it'll stop any minute now. Not seen/heard: the jug eared guy that beat her in the 2008 Democratic primary election.

4 Barry needs to give a speech.

5 Military takeover soon?

6 As soon as President Obama explains the problem properly, Egypt will become our new cornerstone in the ME. It would be a mistake to think that the phone rang at 3:00 AM and nobody answered.

7 Claire Berlinski makes me feel funny down there.

8 5Military takeover soon?   It's kinda' hard to say who exactly it was that was raining 50 cal. fire on the anti-Mubarak protesters tonight. Even eyewitnesses didn't seem to be clear on that. As I understand it, the military itself seems to actually be something of a stabilizing factor and that it's the police and even paramilitary forces that might be responsible for whatever's going on tonight.   And that's not to say that I think that the protesters are little darlings themselves.   It might actually be better in the short term if the army does take control and stabilize things...keep the two sides apart until calm is restored. They're mostly Western-trained and seem to be one of the least corrupt and more professional military forces in the area. Of course that's relative....

9 Game over.
http://tinyurl.com/6b7s5b4

10 Where's Green Helmet Man or Rage Boi?

11 4 Barry needs to give a speech keep his wrists more in line with the shaft and not lift his elbows.

Posted by: toby928™ at February 02, 2011 10:34 PM (GTbGH)

FIFY 

12 All I really care about at this point is the KFC on the Giza plateau. And I say that not as a stockholder in YUMinc, but as someone who thinks that restaurant has the best view of the pyramids in that whole damn town.

13 O/T:  This weather map of the cyclone is just mind bogglingly ominous...

14 What I'm finding annoying about the coverage is people who act certain about events and speak with authority, and you know they don't know a thing--or that they can't be certain.  People want so much for things to be nice and simple. "Oh, these are the good guys, and those are the bad guys.  I'm for the good guys." 

15 this is the guy who comments on the John Batchelor program.  He always discusses the middle east and this article is about Egypt and America.

16 Wonder why I only saw 1 short video on Fox News with people marching in Cairo with big RED HAMMER and CYCLE FLAGS?  I did not see that on CNN. I guess they looted a flag store and they liked red?

17  

18 I was listening to a program and the host interrupted and said that the AP is reporting that three protesters have been killed amid heavy gunfire.

19 Maybe I am forgetfull.  I thought the USSR collapsed.  I didn't know they just moved to warmer weather.  And I thought Florida was bad with old people from NYC.  Cairo with Moscow old farts?  Jeeez

20 curious  3 KIA with heavy gunfire?  They most be bad shots.

21 Canadian bacon is just ham.

22 my dad keeps saying that the big mac is shrinking now every couple of months and soon they'll be selling them as "just a taste" in 6 packs which would then equal the big mac he remembers.

23

Original Big Mac

2 all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions, on a sesame seed bun.(the patties were 2 regular burgers which were 1/8-of-a-pound before cooking-  each)

24 I prefer the sausage mcmuffin.

25 Hard to claim Mubarak is "one of the good guys" when his predecessor's  psycho despotic regime created the "Muslim Brotherhood" and his regime spun off Al'Qaeda.  Backing that is patent suicide.  Best thing to do is off that fucker Mubarak and get our own proganda in the air soon.

26 OK that's great. Posted on the wrong thread.  I've been working on a report and just stepped over here and wow things are escalating in Egypt.

27 Tahrir Round has a Pizza Hut.

28 propaganda, even.

29 Glenn Beck had a fucking point when he dais they don't hate us for our freedom or anything else, they hate us for our fantastic hypocrisy re: their freedoms.  Freedom is good for us, but fuck their subhuman asses - that usually doesn't go over too well with "their subhuman asses".

30 El Baradei is an idiot eh? What the hell is he threatening Mubarak for?

31 Reagan would have had us cheering for them and them cheering for us.  Obama will have...  waffles, please.  And some milk.  And a Coke.

32 About an hour ago, Anderson Cooper had some dipshit sitting next to him waxing poetic about how beautiful it was to see the 18 and 19 year olds changing the course of the region with their take to the streets attitude. He then segued into how he was beat by protesters earlier in the day. Do you people fucking listen to yourselves? I wondered. Not even sure why I had his babbling channel on for that brief moment, was trying to catch up on some DVR'd shows.

33 So you watched something, disagreed with it (and source material I might add, as Anderson and his cohorts were actually in Egypt), and then... what?  Came to Ace to... what?  Tell all two of us pro-democracy in Egypt ra-ra types what?  Fucking freedom is good enough for you, why not anyone else?  As Ben Franklin said,  "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety".

34 Whatever, I just hope this news doesn't preempt RedEye.

35 What the fuck are you talking about.

36
That's one very artfully assembled Egg McMuffin. The only thing better than enjoying that Egg McMuffn would be enjoying that Egg McMuffin with Claire Berlinski.

37 Meh, I'm halfway through a case of beer.  I think most on the right are overselling the "muslim brotherhood" crap based on fear of what could happen.  Egypt isn't fucking Afghanistan, they have two centuries of exposure plus to "western civilization".  Fucking back up their hope for a free fucking country.  Whack Mubarack if you have to.  May be kill him outright, but state outright that you will monetarily or logistically support a "movement towards democracy".

38 Andy Cooper reporting from an underground bunker in Cleveland.

39

LOL how ya doin Flavius

40 Good.  Everything happened while I was napping. Cheap champagne.

41 Why does Anderson Cooper need to sit on the floor but his guests sit in chairs? You can't have a revolution without BACON, it's a FACT.

42 So Egg Mcmuffins in Egypt have no yummy pork?

43

Can't have a revolution without bacon?  Someone tell the former Soviet Republics, stat!

Now if you'd have said can't have a heart attack....

44

Why does Anderson Cooper need to sit on the floor but his guests sit in chairs?

Ummmmm  Emo kids, anyone?

45 More camels.

46

So Egg Mcmuffins in Egypt have no yummy pork?

No, no they don't.  Think they have the McArabia or something.

47

"More camels."

Now, see, that's winning strategy:  A camel in every driveway

48 How is there a Pizza Hut in Tahrir Round? Pepperoni is pork.

49 Yeah, cheese and ground beef aren't from pork.  Also, the beef sausage and bacon I used to get int UAE would blow your mind.

50 Why is he saying for security reasons he has to sit on the floor? I thought he should be hiding in the closet.

51 He could crawl under his bed.

52 OT/

OMG, I can't believe RedEye was preempted by a News Corp press conference.

Egypt I can understand, but this is borderline infomercial.  Does not look good on FNC.

53 SE Cupp was scheduled to be on Red Eye tonight!

54 "Who Lost Egypt" already has over 36,000 results on Google.

We know this is history repeating, a la Jimmy Carter.

Victor Davis Hansen administers the sadly relevant historical perspective we need, with a historian's eye for the miscues and blunders we older folks remember from the Carter Administration. I say read the whole thing.

What I learned from this sad rerun of failed policy:  the way to deal with international tension seems oddly similar to dealing with tensions at home, where an armed populace is a civil populace. Likewise, a vigorously capable national defense is how you keep the worst of the world's misbehavior at arms length. (The missing apostrophe is intentional.)

The next president is going to have to strengthen more than just our borders.

55 It's a rerun I think. Fox and Fox Business were the same for an hour.

56 I heard Country Joe and the Fish would play later.

57 Military takeover soon?

Posted by: eman at February 02, 2011 10:40 PM (n0WLs)

That would probably be the best possible outcome.  A decade ago I would have said that following Turkey in governing style was the way to go for them, but Turkey has taken a turn for the worse since then.  It's still the best model, with the secular military as the ultimate supreme power, one can reasonably envisage for the Egyptians. ... but even Turkey doesn't have that anymore, and it's been steadily sliding into the abyss.  Turkey and Egypt did share a lot of secular requirements in many public institutions.

58

We know this is history repeating, a la Jimmy Carter.

?  A dictator backed by the...  ah, F it.  Maybe we should get in front of this, instead of getting rolled over?

 

What the hell is that author saying in that article?  The world should be different?  Of course it should but that pre-supposes we didn't support fantastically brutal dictators in the first god damn place, which we did.  Our path now is convincing motherfuckers that there is an end game that doesn't involve 50 years of fucking around with al'Qaeda.

59 **popping corn**

60 Europeans must be waking up. Al Jizzera won't load.

61 What it says in that there article is that international disputes are never going to go away, and you don't ever win through appeasement.

It doesn't mean you have to be a thoroughgoing bastard, it just means you don't take any shit from anyone. Carter/Obama not only kowtowed and took a lot of shit, they "made up for it" by throwing allies under the bus.

After two massive FAILs at this, by grinning and kowtowing, and getting Nobel Peace prizes for pretending to give a shit about peace, people ought to wake the hell up and and realize we should never bother with that approach again.

62 Try Subscribing to The Daily!

63 ...something, something Big Stick.

64

"they "made up for it" by throwing allies under the bus."

A guy who brutally supressed 80 million people is an "ally"?  The fuck?  Fuck this guy, how about that?  All this bullshit is because of him, not in spite of the motherfucker.  His fantastically brutally represssive bullshit regime begat the fucktards of today, precisely so he could blame external forces and retain power.  CHEESE AND RICE!  Atleast if chaos ensues for a cycle or two, we can get much closer to the actual Egyptian populace.

65 Also, chaos mean no specific orders for the egyptian military, which means naturally hesistan military commanders who don't roll tanks.  Or you know be a fucktard and solidify the opposition, ensuring a solid and orderly military transfer of command.

66 "A guy who brutally supressed 80 million people is an "ally""

The main allies being thrown under the bus are obviously Israel and Britain.

67 The best way to deligitimize the MB is to drown it out.  That's how you kill conspiracies.  Or, you know, keep backing up the guy who's currently brutally repressing and/or disappearing them, that'll get them on our side.

68

"The main allies being thrown under the bus are obviously Israel and Britain."

The fuck?  Please explain.  I rember how those Israelis held down Helmand for us in Afghanistan, and all those times they picked up the slack for us in Basra in Iraq.

69 I don't need to explain how the fact that Obama and Carter both worked poorly with Israel and Britain. It's a historical fact.

I'm unaware of Israeli troops ever being involved in Afghanistan or Iraq in this century.

70 Oh, I'm sorry K~Bob, you can't explain where the Israelis have actually been fighting and dying with us, unlike the Brits.  Kindly go suck a fucking dick and re-evaluate what it means to be an ally.  And if you have to wrap Israel up in our pretty awesome roster of bench-sitting allies, well, fuck.  Must have just been the timing.

71

I can tell you, thanks to our friend wikileaks, that I saw juat as many attempts to infilitrate the SIPR and illicitly obtain manuals from Israel as there were from China.

 

BUT THEY'RE OUR ALLIES!!! THE BIBLE TOLD ME SO!!!

72 Friggin typos. I forgot a few backspaces.

73 Looks like we have another Israel basher.

Good luck with that, flash. I think you might be in the wrong forum for that crap, but I'm not going to waste my time with you.

74

"Looks like we have another Israel basher."

Nope, just another person who doesn't think we should being our evaluation on how we deal with a score of indepent countries based on a single entitiy.  Can you think of how European relations would have turned out if we were Britiain centric?  What if we valued Czehkslovokia ( I know it doesn't exist anyomore) above all else?  How would our positions have changed?

We're at the point where Arab Tyrannocracies are beginning to fall.  Oddly, this comes after we sent in military forces to topple two of them directly (who could have seen that coming?).  So the question is, why shouldn't we get in front of this and support democracy on the cheap, as it were?  It's not like they will have campaign finance laws nailed dow in Egypt before we can pour funds in, exactly.

75 21Canadian bacon is just ham.     The devil you say!   I tried on one of McD's 1/3 lb. Angus burgers yesterday and the goddamned thing had a fishy aftertaste, like it'd been hanging around near the Fillet o' Fish area too long.    

76 Somebody pulled the plug on Al Jihada.

77 "I tried on one of McD's 1/3 lb. Angus burgers yesterday and the goddamned thing had a fishy aftertaste..."

It's not what you pay to get that aftertaste, it's how much we pay to engineer just the perfect amount of fishy aftertaste.

78 sickinmass, Flavius assured me they were all just subhuman jihadis!  LONG LIVE MUBARAK AND THE BRUTAL TOTURTING DICTATORSHIP!

79 Boycott Egypt? How? When was the last time you read a tag that said made in Egypt?

80

FREEDOM FOR ME AND NOT FOR THEE! FREEDOM FOR ME AND NOT FOR THEE! FREEDOM FOR ME AND NOT FOR THEE! FREEDOM FOR ME AND NOT FOR THEE! FREEDOM FOR ME AND NOT FOR THEE! FREEDOM FOR ME AND NOT FOR THEE! FREEDOM FOR ME AND NOT FOR THEE! FREEDOM FOR ME AND NOT FOR THEE!

THE DECLARATION OF THE ISRAEL BIBLE TELLS ME SO!

81 An antisemitic antiamerican troll. How original.

82

"Boycott Egypt? How? When was the last time you read a tag that said made in Egypt?"

Our boy is obviously nor familiar with egyptian cotton.  No comfy sheets for you!!!!

83 Do you worship the child molester mohamed or do you practice the atheist faith?

84 Egyptian cotton became very scarce a decade ago.

85

"An antisemitic antiamerican troll. How original."

Really?  A couple of things.  I'm an American.  I love America.  And Semitics include arabs, seeing as how that's a fucking linguistic grouping, fucktard.

I fail to see how we should sign a suicide pact with Israel.  See disagreemant, longstanding history of, protected by our fantastic freedoms.

Served USMC, 98-03, PVt-SSgt.  Must be damn right unamerican.

 

86 OOOOOH!!!! insluting other people's religions!  You mst be an atheist, Flavius.  Or else very thin skinned.

87 I think all the foreign aid that we have been giving the welfare state Egypt has caused them to stop producing anything.

88

"I think all the foreign aid that we have been giving the welfare state Egypt has caused them to stop producing anything."

Hmm.  1.3 bil in our foreign aid.  Annual GDP 187 billion.  Yep, our .5% GDP has totally fucked them, 100%.

89 So you just hate the Joos? You would wait in line all day to fellate a Fakestinian as per the dictates of the atheist faith? Mohamed was a child molester. It says that in their books. The hadiths. Your ignorance is great.

90 Actually foreign aid for Egypt exceeds 51% of their GDP.

91 Take your Taquiia elsewhere troll.

92 They get grain as well. If the grain shipments cease their population will be halfed.

93

 "So you just hate the Joos? You would wait in line all day to fellate a Fakestinian as per the dictates of the atheist faith? Mohamed was a child molester. It says that in their books. The hadiths. Your ignorance is great."

My belief that our foreign policy was misguided leans towards this how?  I would what?  Would you wait in line all day to fellate a roman catholic as he preserves, through Paul, the most direct continuance of your belief?

You want to debate the hadiths?  Great.  I can't recall the part where it says "America shall support Israel, and fuck those Israeli fucks".  Honestly, I can't remember that from sunday school or from reading the Constitution, either.

94 Looks like more groups are leaving Egypt, if possible. Kenyans are being evacuated via Kenya Airways, and possibly British Airways.

Also some Philipinos returning to be "repatriated".

95

"Take your Taquiia elsewhere troll."

TAQUIIA!!! I WIN!!! What is that, some delicious Mexican dish?

96

"They get grain as well. If the grain shipments cease their population will be halfed."

Need citation, and the word is "halved".  And that means that 50% will be murdered.  So you're a big fan of that, then.

97 Friggin sok.

So far all the newsies are reporting "Five" deaths. You'd think from all the reports of gunfire that there would be more.

98

*Sigh*

So the supporters of repressive dirtbag Mubarak are fighting with supporters of the group that spawned al Qaeda in a land where 78% to 95% of the women are genitally mutilated for Allah.

I hope both sides lose. And I have yet to see that these protesters want freedom in a sense that a Westerner would understand the term.

Always thought Ann Coulter was nuts for saying after 9/11 that the only way to peace was to invade their lands, topple their leaders, and convert their people to Christianity. Maybe she was right...

99

"So the supporters of repressive dirtbag Mubarak are fighting with supporters of the group that spawned al Qaeda in a land where (78% to 95% need citation) of the women are genitally mutilated for Allah..

Maybe if you didn't get your stats through...  you know what?  Even the internet doesn't lie like this.  It was officially (re-)banned in Egypt in  2007, after it had been unofficially banned for, I don't know, forever?  None of my female relative have been circumsized, to include my wife (YAY!).

100 Taquiaa is your dispensation from the child molester mohamed to lie like hell to civilized people. Get ready for your diet troll.

101 They need to implement the Coulter Doctrine.

102 In 2015 you won't be able to tell a Somali from the arabs who are calling themselves Egyptians.

103 When people die to malnutrition it is not called murder it is called starvation.

104

"Taquiaa is your dispensation from the child molester mohamed to lie like hell to civilized people. Get ready for your diet troll."

Wow, I really don't even know how to respond to that.  If you had been deft enough with Bing or Google to use the actual English transliteration, Taqiyya, your statement might mean something.  Unfortunately for you, a google search reads: (http://tinyurl.com/6dwovjb).

Try again.

105

" When people die to malnutrition it is not called murder it is called starvation."

Spoken *EXACTLY* like Stalin, you COMMIE FUCK.

106

In 2015 1945 you won't be able to tell a Somali  Russian from the arabs Ukranians who are calling themselves Egyptians Soviets.

Worked out well last go round, didn't it?

107

UNICEF study: http://tinyurl.com/4npaqd

96% of women ages 15 to 49 in Egypt have been genitally mutilated.

108 AT: Driftwood Diplomacy

Obama, determined to become the Muslim world's best friend, has in spite of his efforts unleashed the dogs of war in the Middle East. He has essentially told Iran that they are free to develop nuclear weapons and to meddle in the affairs of Lebanon with no consequences. He has given Hamas and the Palestinian Authority a green light to confront Israel, as U.S. policy is now to browbeat and intimidate the Israelis to accept any agreement. In his Cairo speech in 2009, Obama shamelessly blamed the West for all the problems with Islam and never once used the words "terrorism," "terrorist," or "war on terror." Earlier in the same year, he met secretly with the Muslim Brotherhood -- the progenitor of Hamas and al-Qaeda -- thus legitimizing the organization with a wink and a nod.

>Me tinks BHO is a muzzy.

109 There is some good news coming out of this.  Cooper getting his ass kicked and a near miss on Amanpour. 


I assume everyone knows that the Blind Sheik is the spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood.  

110 Fight like an Egyptian remix.

111 Well,  I checked this thread for news,  but seemingly it has been taken over by a troll.

VADM,  I do know about the Muslim Brotherhood (established in 1928 and not due to American policies,  since we weren't even IN the Middle East then).

I am still pondering how much of this is leftist and how much Muslim Brotherhood and Iran.  Code Pink had a presence in the square yesterday.  coupled with the red flags,  I would say leftists are also at work in this deal.

112 Admin really needs to "override" this new disruptor...

113 I think we should rename it Egg McMuffin Square or البيض الكعك ساحة ماك.

114 "Tahrir" means "liberation" in Arabic.  It the 2nd Measure verbal noun of the root meaning "to be free."   

115 hey man Livestream Video of Conflict in Tahrir Cairo Square? umm i dont see it?! where is it here? and uhh why minus canadian bacon? in case you didnt know our government is on the anti mubarak side.

116 Boy, I'm sure glad we had a troll here to fix the spelling of something "in English" that's actually from Arabic.

If only there were a hard and fast rule for spelling translations in non-English glyph systems. If only there were some agreement on such a hard and fast rule. And finally, if only you could find enough people who actually give a shzt. Why then, you might have a tissue-thin, trace of a typical troll's argument.

But good luck with the trolling program. Speling and gud gramer are very importunt in troll posts.

117 altın çilek - fx15 - leke kremi - yudali - maurers - ozon yağı

118

I would love to see a video of pigs being unloaded on those moon god worshiping POS. That would break up the protesters PDQ!

Allah is a false moon god. Da'One supports Iran's ruling party, and the Muslim Brotherhood. WTF over?