1 Nice law.  No way on Earth it's ever going to be enforced, except selectively.

New Orleans completes its collapse in 3...2...1...

2 In Louisiana of all places.

3 American Pickers hardest hit.

4 An absurd, obscene, and unenforceable law.

5 Did Governor Jindal sign this pos law?

6 Did Governor Jindal sign this pos law? Posted by: Dave at October 20, 2011 01:24 PM (Xm1aB) Great Question

7 Did Jindal veto it yet?

8

As friggen nuts as this is, we can plainly see at the Federal, State and Local level they continue trending toward absolute statism.

Lest tax revenues be threatened, ban money.

9 I'm embarrassed to live in Louisiana today.  This is pitiful.  The only good thing is that now that the light of day is shining on this turd it won't last long.  If a court doesn't knock it down the Legislature will feel enough heat it will repeal it pretty quick.

But it was still a black day when it actually slipped into law.

10 So much for any of Bobby Jindal's presidential aspirations. Naturally, all State business will still be expected to be conducted in cash.

11 Cash is yet another enemy of the All-Wise and Powerful Government. Nothing shall be unnoticed or unpunished.

12 Your Cash Aint Nothin But Trash

13 There should be a prohibition on all politicians named Rickey, Barney, Scooter and Clump.

14 "In G-D we trust, but all others pay cash. Except you and you and you and yeah you the little lady over there"

15
This is what you get with hack-politicians who feel entitled to a piece of ALL action.

16 "Hey, why not mandate that all cars have a chip in them that reports, in real time, the vehicle's position to a central police computer? That would make it easier for the State to prove a case in some situations."

Be a lot faster and easier just to chip people.

17 The destruction of America continues apace.

18

We don't want this cash transaction to be taken away from us.

This is a squish comment.

It is long past time everyone realized the only proper response to this is "Fuck you, you can't do that, and I won't comply".

19 F'in civil liberties. How do they work?

20 Mooooroooons, "Legal Tender" and all that crap.
I'd love to see them try enforcing this one.

Government, making criminals out of ordinary citizens, one law at a time.

21 "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private"

...or some things and other things less than a certain amount or...

22 @17 I agree.

23 Is a whore considered "Second-Hand goods"?

24 Be a lot faster and easier just to chip people.

Wait a few years.

25 Nothin but a bunch of plantaion owners in LA anyway.

26 I am good for all debts public and private. Can't you swamp rats read?

27
When tax revenue is a person's life blood...

28 Um...if the goal is to be able to track possibly stolen goods, why not mandate the recording of a verifiable name and address over a certain amount? And then those records kept for a period of time like, say, 30 days or so?

This way people could still pay in cash, most wouldn't be affected by the law, but in extreme cases there would be a way to track it?

29 The law states those who buy or sell second hand goods are prohibited from using cash.

As the acknowledged Cutting Edge Laboratory for Insane New Laws, I should have thought of this first.

30

"Hey, why not mandate that all cars have a chip in them that reports, in real time, the vehicle's position to a central police computer? That would make it easier for the State to prove a case in some situations."

The tiny ballerina who runs Chicago now wants to complement all the red light cameras with speed-trap cameras.

But if you film the police, they'll arrest you, because that's illegal.

31 Considering that since paper currency is legal tender, they have to accept it or they are breaking the law. Then, if they do accept it, they are breaking the law. The only way to avoid breaking the law is to close up shop.

In one fell swoop, Louisiana has made it illegal to sell second hand goods in their state.

32 Just make everyone pay for everything with Paypal.  Brutal simplicity

This should make for a good conservative vs. libertarian dust-up

33

Pawn shops have been forced to keep records of their clients for years. However under this bill they are still allowed to deal in cash.

I wonder how they got themselves exempted...

34

Is a tramp in the French Quarter considered a second hand good? 

35 No need to pass a law to chip every car.  YOU are already lo-jacked.  One court order and your cell provider will cough up minute by minute logs of where your phone was at.  It isn't quite as detailed as the GPS info but the phone's radio is on 24/7 and the GPS receiver isn't.  On the other hand, if you carry a smart phone they can also hit Google (or Apple, RIM, etc) with paper and get the trail you leave in their cloud.

36 CraigsList hardest hit.

37
25 beat me to it

38
If we don't tax second-hand Monopoly games at the flea market, you'll get raped.

39 So Bobby Jindal didn't read the budget and just rubber stamped this?
Haven't heard from him yet.

Has no one filed for an an injuction?

40 Methinks Bobby Jindal has some splainin' to do.

41 does this include / cover tranny hookers and Discreet but Nonetheless Criminal Meth Transactions?

meanwhile, Khaddaffiiiiii is still dead

42 From the same people who elected Ray Nagin.

43 Bitcoin FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

44 Um...if the goal is to be able to track possibly stolen goods

Ahem*bullshit*cough.

What's LA's sales tax rate?

45 regarding car chips did you see this new option Progressive is offering? You install a device that monitors your driving for several months, send it back, and they give you a discount based on you driving.

46 I can't see how Jindal is agreeable to this, he seems too......sensible.

47 How fucking idiotic is this?  

48 It's not a law enforcement measure; it is a tax-collection measure. If it was to catch criminals who sell goods, all they'd have to do is require the owner to keep a register of who they buy stuff from.
You know, like pawn shops--where the lazy fucking police never step foot to find stolen good.

49
it's the fair thing to do

50 Did Governor Jindal sign this pos law? Yes. Look for this on the governorÂ’s web site: HB 195 by Rep. Richardson relates to secondhand property Assuming IÂ’m reading that page correctly. IÂ’d link it, but that web site has been banned by the powers-that-be. Your website (louisiana.gov) has been banned. If you feel this is in error, please contact the blog owner by email, or tech support at Â…

51 Checks and credit cards still good?

52 It looks like Jindal signed the bill into law in June of this year. 
http://tinyurl.com/3hengjj

sigh. 


I realize good governors sign bad laws all the time, but it's still disappointing. 

53 Do the peabrains who drafted this POS realize that thrift stores such as Goodwill operate by selling donated goods? 

54 Where do you swipe your card when you hire a hooker?

Hmmm.

55

Another example of legislation making it onerous for law abiding citizens in order to supposedly catch criminals is the national database for the purchase of sudafed and other OTC drugs with pseudoephedrine in them.

56 If you don't pass this bill, women will be raped by 200-pound men who will make them spit

__Sheriff Joe

57
Are we really this hard up for revenue?

We have to resort to this, not to mention state-run casinos?

58 http://tinyurl.com/3wrh6ld says signed by executive July 1.

59 You people are racist for questioning Jindal.  Don't you have a plantation to run?

60 I see 4th and 5th amendment issues with this as well.

61 The story says HB 195. Did it pass? I have a hard time believing Bobby Jindal signed this into law.

62 spongeworthy at October 20, 2011 01:28 PM Ironically, it prolly had something to do with a cash payment.

63

I posted it in the comments early this morning and don't know if anyone else followed up but...

Did you hear about the bill that Schumer and Mike Lee are pushing to grant visas based upon a $500k real estate spend in the U.S.?

Screw the poor. Screw the huddled masses. Screw those who've waited on-line to do the right thing.

It's for the housing market, a know.

64 The bill passed the legislature with an almost unanimous vote.

Jindal may have little choice in the matter.

65 So much for Bobby Jindal.

It's getting harder and harder to take the Republicans seriously as an alternative to the Democrats.  Even Obama hasn't gone this far yet.  Wait till they see it -- RomneyCare spawned ObamaCare, and Lousisana's fascist law will spawn something even worse in DC.

These guys are really insane.

66 is this another one of those things you had to pass to find out what was in the legislation?

67 Signed July 1st, in effect since August 15, apparently only noticed now?

A great big round of WTF's all around!

68 So, what's the problem?????

69 If you outlaw cash, only outlaws will have cash.

But you guys probably already said that.

70 @59
Ooops, yes July not June

71

The government is coming after our garage sales?

 

72 Well it's obvious that the Pawn Stars won't be expanding to LA anytime soon.

73 Idiots. Why don't they just ban private transactions? The state is far better equipped to make sure the people are buying the correct items at the correct price anyway.

74

Rearden: "But, after all, I did break one of your laws."

Ferris: "Well, what do you think they're there for? .... Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed? We want them broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against . . . We're after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you'd better get wise to it. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of law-breakers - and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Rearden, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."

75 I realize good governors sign bad laws all the time, but it's still disappointing. 

Posted by: Y-not at October 20, 2011 01:33 PM (5H6zj)

You have a real gift for stating the Obvious, hon. 

76 @65 He can veto. Period. If they overturn it, so be it. Big disappointment.

77 Oh, and the Volkh Conspiracy already noted that a federal court has previously upheld a similar law where "this note is legal tender for all debts public and private" was not violated on account of a check is merely a mid-point to the cash, that is, because you can cash the check, requiring checks is the same as cash.

We really need a conservative who will actively work to repeal laws, not tinker around the edges. And Mitt will fuck you with 59 new regulations and laws for every speech he gives.

78 Well, okay, we've got a fix for that! We'll just outlaw all the non-criminal behavior which may be used, occasionally, in furtherance of the criminal behavior we're actually trying to stop.

Oh I have a whole list of those. My personal peeve.

Open container laws. What huh? You can't carry alcohol in a non sealed container in a car because...Someone might drink it? That someone might be the driver? The driver might become impaired? And then if impaired might be involved in an accident? God how many links do we need from action to injury? Makes for real stupidity like I can't legally ride in a car with a full hip flask even if I am both just a passenger, and, I have no intention of drinking from it while in the automobile, because it's an "open" container.

79 I'm certain the US Treasury is going to be calling Louisiana very soon...

80 1) Jindal should be politically dead to any Patriots.
2) His endorsement of Perry should be of questionable value, and it would be a good thing if someone cornered Perry on where he stands on this.
3) There are the La. equivalent of Revenoo-ers who are going to meet with gators in a bayou, I predict.  Cajuns can be a bloody minded lot.
4) There are four precious metals that are the ultimate legal tender.
5) On April 19, 1775 the Brits thought that they would just have a quiet stroll to Concord and Lexington to seize the people and munitions they were after.  That did not quite work out for them the way they thought it would, because they had already stomped on the locals' last nerve.  Someday, a garage sale, a Goodwill, or some such may turn out the same way.

Subotai Bahadur

81 55 Where do you swipe your card when you hire a hooker?

Look for the slot in the back *wink, wink*.  Giggity, giggity!

82 #73: Learn to read.

83 OT - video of a dying Gadaffi up at the HotAir (spit) headlines

84

straight out of Atlas Shurgged

85 Good luck enforcing this.

86
Louisiana HB195

Provides relative to the purchase of junk or used or secondhand property

2011-06-08 - Senate Vote on HB 195, (Y: 34 N: 1 NV: 0) [PASS]
2011-05-16 - House Vote on HB 195, (Y: 97 N: 0 NV: 0) [PASS]

Action: Signed by the Governor. Becomes Act No. 389.



Ah, sweet sweet bi-partisanship.

87 Note to self: cross Louisiana from the list of states in which the "Pre-Owned Condom Minimums" franchise sale is likely to bear fruit.

88 Linky here, one stop shopping for all your governmental stupid.

89

And in regard to car chips, most new cars already have that capability, as does OnStar in older cars. The only missing piece is the law allowing law enforcement to collect that data. Which I suspect is coming at some point.

Not to mention the monitoring in place on your gas and electric meters now that is sending real time information to the power company, the future of that is that the power company will be able to turn your power off and on depending on your usage.

America=China they don't have to invade us, we're taking care of it ourselves.

90

WTF?

Nothing in my local paper about it. Do I need to go take down my Jindal for Gov. sign?

91 68 Signed July 1st, in effect since August 15, apparently only noticed now?

A great big round of WTF's all around!
---

That seems to happen a lot here in my new state (Utah).  I don't know if LA's legislature is part-time, but ours is and the net effect is that they rush things through so that even the reps themselves don't know what's going on half the time.  They did some bone-headed things with our budget last time as well as putting even more restrictions (as if that's possible) on liquor sales at restaurants that afterward, when called on it, the legs claimed a big oopsie on. 

In general I try to give elected officials the benefit of the doubt, but I'm starting to really dislike local pols and state legs.  They seem like self-important clowns. 

92 let's just skip the preliminaries and put tracking chips in everybody ...

93

And Jindal went for this?  Simply amazing.  Keep guns away from Republicans because they always end up shooting themselves in the foot.

94 They'll come after bartering next.

Some Ivy League cocksucker in a $1000 suit is working up a law right now to establish how many chickens to the hog and how many .223 rounds per bale of alfalfa.

And, of course, what the government's cut will be.

Bet on it.

95 This law is as onerous and malodorous as a sweaty, 200 pound rapist standing over a woman telling her to submit.

96 Wait, I did some checking...both houses of the Legislature are majority f'n Republican?!?

Whiskey.  Tango.  Foxtrot. Oscar?!?

97

 

Are cops now going to cruise around residential neighborhoods looking for illegal yard sales?

98

Can you still use cash to buy a second hand debit card, which only works in one of those job-stealing ATMs?

99 if they go after bartering it is gonna put a dent in my dinner for sex scheme

100 This, in a pretty red state with a GOP governor?  Fuuuuuuck.

101 99 what's the O for ?

102

When I saw this story at Drudge yesterday I was gobsmacked. How could this POSSIBLY be a law? How can it be enforced? How can it be LEGAL?

Of course the answer is, “It can’t.”

ItÂ’s the invention of a whole new level of bureaucracy to deal with criminals who arenÂ’t going to care about obeying the law anyway, and will find a way to circumvent it.

It’s also a money maneuver. Everyone has heard of the “shadow economy” of cash-only transactions that take place “off the books.” These are perfectly legal, but because they’re done in cash, it’s much easier for individuals and businesses to “hide” that income from the government. Hidden income means less paid in taxes, and we KNOW how the government feels about not getting its “fair share” of the people’s money.

LA conservatives and libertarians had better get on this FAST and get it repealed. Otherwise you can expect the bureaucrats to show up in droves at all of the following places and demand to see your “papers:”

- Garage, moving, and yard sales
- Flea markets
- Used book stores
- Thrift shops
- Secondhand clothing stores
- Pawn shops
- Music, video, and video game resellers (the entertainment industry HATES resellers)
- Auctions

And what about individuals who may use secondhand goods as part of their work? I’m thinking primarily of artists and professional crafters who may use scrap metal or other preused materials to make their product. Can I not spend $5 of ready cash to buy the cute drink coaster made from an old Van Halen CD because it’s “secondhand”? Do I have to put that on my credit card?

This is the stupidest law since that one in NY that makes it illegal for a donkey to sleep in your bathtub in Brooklyn.

103 I still can't believe Jindal went for this, someone should get him to explain what he was thinking.

104

"It is convenient to have a system of laws where everyone is a criminal."

 

 

isn't Lou. a conservative state, i mean don't the Repubs run things down there?

and they did this?

 

Welcome to Americka, comrade.

 

 

105 Always knew Jindal was a sucker of the cock.

106 if they go after bartering it is gonna put a dent in my dinner for sex scheme

It will completely bankrupt the Pancakes for Poonanny Ponzi Scheme Ace has going.

107

There are millions of Americans who do not use banks, they live on cash only.

 

This is retarded.

108 Trade your cash in at Amalgamated Bank (the union owned bank) or Richard Simmons debit card company.

109

Amen to this. Great post on one of my pet peeve topics.

Tom Sowell and others have addressed aspects of this and some of the "penumbras".

One tangent is that laws that are passed like this inevitably are used to go after people who may not have even been envisioned with the original law. Do I mind if the RICO statutes are used to go after drug cartels, and even the Mafia? No. Kudos to giuliani and his team, they did some good work back in the 80's.

So then how about groups like the Hells Angels? Uh, that gets dicier. Where does it end and where do you draw the lines? Read a book about a big undercover operation against them a few years back. Lots of $ spent, lives of agents risked, and my read was all they got was some seemingly (to me) relatively minor convictions. Some pretty scary guys? For sure. A menace to society overall? Not so much.

I know this is not totally analogous to the post, and I'm all for prosecuting the bad guys. If they break the law, prosecute em', and if they keep doing it, put em' far, far away for a real long time so they won't bother anyone again. But the constant government overreach without any thought to what it does to people's basic freedom is a real concern. 

110

(AP) Oct. 12, 2015 -- GOP Presidential hopeful Bobby Jindal finds himself on the defensive again over his signing of House Bill 195 in 2011.

"That is an awful law and you should not have signed it," said frontrunner Sen. CJ (R-PA) in last night's charged debate, moments before being carried off the stage by cheering audience members and the debate moderator.

111 107

"It is convenient to have a system of laws where everyone is a criminal."

isn't Lou. a conservative state, i mean don't the Repubs run things down there?

and they did this?

Welcome to Americka, comrade.

Posted by: shoey at October 20, 2011 01:41 PM (m6OUa)

 

almost forgot, Vote Romney!

112 How's that for a stimulus? You poor bankrupt folk don't have credit so you'll have to pay cash for new stuff. Ya know...at the mall.

113 Is Mary Landreui (sp?) up in 2012? Because if she is, Bobby just gave her a perfect opening to swipe a larger percentage of the good-ole-boy vote she'll need to win.

114 Oh, FUCK you, Bobby Jindal! You can't see it, but I'm DownTwinkling the shit out of you, asshole.

115 Where the fuck is Jindal on this?

He signed it?

116 maybe this is part of durbin's plan to help the banking sector recover the fees they lost with dodd-frank; lower merchant fees, but now everyone needs a merchant account.

117

I tried to tell ya ...

118 What, you mean everyone who takes Advil Cold & Sinus isn't cooking up crystal meth?

119

Posted by: Dave at October 20, 2011 01:42 PM (Xm1aB)

she's up in 2014

120
Obama's America...
- rape is good
- cash is bad

121 Bobby Jindal dartboards will sell like hotcakes at every thrift store in LA now.

122 @122 I bet she's thankful for that good fortune.

123 124, There has got to be something else to that bill. Jindal is not THAT stupid. Is he?

124 "There are millions of Americans who do not use banks, they live on cash only. This is retarded." Well, they live on cash only FOR NOW. Soylent Green is people!

125

They do realize that ALL second-hand goods have already been taxed once, right?

The lady who watches our daughter in the afternoon caught that one right away, then said "A lot of people don't even HAVE bank accounts, and a law like this is going to cause a lot of places to go out of business."

But Democrats love poor people -

Or something.

126 If you outlaw cash, only outlaws will have cash.

If you outlaw cash, only criminals will have sex with prostitutes.

127 The sponsor, Rep. Richardson, was a justice of the peace for 16 yrs before being elected in 2007.  Here are his cmte assignments. 

Richardson serves on three House committees: (1) Civil Law and Procedure, (2) Education, (3) Municipal, Parochial and Cultural Affairs.

He seems like a busy body.  Time for him to find new employment. 

128 sifty @ 109 I am curious about the pancakes thing. I would think if you are going out for breakfast you've already got everything you need.

129 There are plenty of law & order type republicans who believe that their first duty is protect the proles from themselves. I call them "Santorums".

130 how can you outlaw cash when printed on every note is "this note is legal tender for all debts, public and private"

131 Crap, Jindal, WTF???

132 I'm going on record that I will not comply with laws like this, should other states be suffering from cerebral bankruptcy as Louisiana.

133 There has got to be something else to that bill. Jindal is not THAT stupid. Is he?

Text is at the link.  The 'claimed' reason is to crack down on the whole no-questions-asked sale of copper (often ripped out houses or unattended machinery).  The sheer volume of stupid involved in the execution is mind-boggling.

In short, apparently he is.  Not to mention the rest of the Louisiana legislature.

134 @130 It's time for every fool who voted for this to find new employment.

135

isn't Lou. a conservative state, i mean don't the Repubs run things down there?

I don't even know who is running against Jindal because I have never seen a sign for any of the Democrats...I don't know what to make of this.

Probably it was passed as a law and order issue. That would make it very popular.

136 maybe jindal did not have time to read the bill.

137 How's that water temp feeling, froggies?

138 The text at the link I gave earlier, anyway.

139 Atlas Shrugged had a similar quote about universal criminality. But really, this is about tax collection, right? Just like the 1099 requirement in SCOAMFCARE?

140

Obama's America...
- rape is good
- cash is bad

Don't fuck with me Cherry Pi!

I never said "rape". I never said the word "rape". I said "rape is up". I said rape is up 3 times. Rape and murder.

And cash is down.

Who the hell are you with? Who sent you? Did you come to rape me?

141 maybe jindal did not have time to read the bill.

Doing what, pray tell?

142 Good luck enforcing that one.  People who deal in cash are already underreporting their income by about one half.

143 Hannity will have Jindal on in the very near future- to show off Bobbie's mangina and expressive wrists.

144 Suckers ....

145

I never said the word rape once.

Someone asked me what was up and I said rape.

Don't screw with me.

146 Or maybe Jindal's just another fraudulent politician.

147

There has got to be something else to that bill. Jindal is not THAT stupid. Is he?

We might need to get a little more info before drawing any sweeping conclusions. Since this report indicated the law has not been previously reported, it could have been signed in the middle of a legislative frenzy without the Gov being told that such a provision was added. His staff could have screwed up.

148 This law is a mess waiting to happen, but I know why it passed.

There's a big problem with robberies here where the stuff gets fenced for cash immediately.  The thought, what little there is of it, is that the cops want to be able to track down the thief based on the recovered goods.  Paying by check or electronically makes it easy to track down the culprit.

Baton Rouge in particular has gotten bad about this kind of stuff.  The local FYE where I trade in old DVDs lost its pawnbroker license for almost a year because they unknowingly bought stolen DVDs and their paperwork wasn't in exact order when the cops came calling.

They got their license back since then, but the cops put a LOT of restrictions on them, such as the hours when they can start taking back items, the amount of stuff they can pay cash for from one individual, the amount of time they have to keep the stuff on-hand in case the cops determine that the items were stolen, etc.

Shit like this is why I'm transitioning to eBay to get rid of my legitimately obtained DVDs.

149 141, It's almost like he signed it to find out what was in it. So, do political donations and payoffs have to go through paypal, credit cards, checks and other traceable forms of currency? That actually would not be a bad idea.

150 maybe jindal did not have time to read the bill.


Sometimes you just don't know what's in a bill until you pass it.

151 Okay, we know Jindal endorsed Perry. So what Cabinet slot will Bobby fill in a Perry administration? Treasury?

152

So if that gov't doesn't want businesses to report that they got cash for purchases, I bet businesses are just going to stop reporting cash sales.

BRB, need to open a thrift shop...

153

I immediately start to wonder how much money the banking industry lobbied FOR this.  They're currently making percentages off both ends of virtually every credit card transaction, just think of how many millions more it would generate if  they eliminated all the cash competition.

 

154 151. Hmm, you what might help with this illegal activity?!?!? You know what I'm going to say, don't you? EFFING BORDER CONTROL

155 Don't make me a criminal. You wouldn't like me when I'm a criminal.

156

So if that gov't doesn't want businesses to report that they got cash for purchases, I bet businesses are just going to stop reporting cash sales.

BRB, need to open a thrift shop...

 

So long tax revenue.

157

BTW - the Louisiana primary is Saturday Oct 22.  Apparently Jindall gets re-elected in a walk, open primary bay-bee, with $6 million left in the kitty.

158 One might look at this law and say.....well, it's just a small segment of the population.......you know........pawnbrokers and other folks you wouldn't want at your cocktail party. This strips LIBERTY from people. It should never have seen the light of day on that principle alone. But also, where does it STOP? Is Walmart next? Home Depot? If a child murderer buys duct tape and uses it during a crime is that enough justification for the State to require a record of all purchases? Of all Americans? Shame on you Jindal. Louisiana.

159 What, did Jindal take a shot of Perry's Tardisil?

160 DL @144 I was just paying homage to conyers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACbwND52rrw

161 yeah, but then enforcement goes into place, where there's a bunch of undercovers whose job it is to bust small businesses that go all cash under the table.

162 Voting for this is Jindal's performance art reenactment version of his GOP rebuttal from a few months ago.

Clusterfuck Deux.

163 So if that gov't doesn't want businesses to report that they got cash for purchases, I bet businesses are just going to stop reporting cash sales.

Unintended consequences strike again.

164 suckers ...

165 Since this report indicated the law has not been previously reported, it could have been signed in the middle of a legislative frenzy without the Gov being told that such a provision was added. His staff could have screwed up.

It wouldn't be the first time that legislators pulled a fast one to get something underhanded passed during Jindal's term.

One particular piece of shit brought up a bill for a vote, telling everyone it was an honorary measure for something like Best Hamburger in Baton Rouge, to get a unanimous vote.  It turned out it was a bill to override Jindal's attempt to refuse stimulus money from the Feds, as he had refused the unemployment money because the Feds were requiring the state to raise its payments by far more than the amount of money being disbursed to it through the bill.

166 I know Rep. Hardy.  He's a friend and a genuinely good, honest, hardworking man.  He's been an extremely effective foe of the black Democrat establishment in his district, has fought against the tide of racial politics that establishment promotes, has crossed party lines to support Republicans in Lafayette and in the state (many of whom don't deserve it), and is basically exactly the kind of black politician who gives me hope that the Democrats' politics of racial grievance can ultimately be shattered.

Unfortunately, from time to time he pushes legislation that is completely idiotic, and this is one of those times.  I have no doubt that Rickey had the best of intentions with this, but it's still wrong and destructive bullshit and he's gonna hear it from me next time I talk to him.  This is the kind of thing that has made Louisiana a national laughingstock.

As for Jindal, he'll sign this, because Jindal would sign anything.  As an absentee governor he hasn't been particularly attentive to or discriminating in such matters, and his first term has amounted to jack and shit (and Jack left town, much as we expect Bobby to do at his earliest opportunity).  He's been a disgrace, a failure as a "reform" governor, belongs nowhere near a national ticket, and will not have my vote this Saturday.

167 Uh ... Republican Governor. How are we supposed to parse this out? Are Jindal and the Louisiana legislature hostages to the credit card and bank card industries - the Wall Street BANKSTERS? Cuz that's what it looks like. So where can I go to protest this outrage?

168

I'll tell you what I am - I'm the damn paterfamilias! You can't marry him!

I'm a Dapper Dan man.

169

Out here in CA, there is a sentiment that police are now using traffic infractions to sustain their existence.  A $150 fine for using a cell  comes across to some people as oppressive and money grubbing.  We know in our hearts that this is not a public safety issue, but rather a revenue enhancement.  A nice cocktail of businesses getting favorable laws from a pliable and buyable  legislator, enforced by the police state. 

Of course, all rational citizens support police enforcment of real crimes (I'm talking rape Sherrif Joe), but I hope we are reaching a point where citizens realize they have a govenment they do not want. 

We do not want to be banned form using cash to buy stuff at a garage sale or thrift shop.

We want our kids to be able to have lemonade stands. 

We want to be able to chose what types of food we eat, what types of cars to drive, and in general, we want to have the freedom to live our lives in a manner that we see fit, provided it doesn't harm anyone.

I hope we wake up and insisit on a govenrment that protects liberty, because as Herm said "Stupid people are ruining America."

 

 

170 157 151.

Hmm, you what might help with this illegal activity?!?!?

You know what I'm going to say, don't you?

EFFING BORDER CONTROL

The problem isn't illegals in this case. 

It's mainly tweakers looking for drug money.

171 Whatever happened to "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private"???

172

Me: Probably it was passed as a law and order issue. That would make it very popular.

Brandon: This law is a mess waiting to happen, but I know why it passed.

There's a big problem with robberies here

We might just be on to something here. But still...

173 Hmm, you what might help with this illegal activity?!?!?

You know what I'm going to say, don't you?

EFFING BORDER CONTROL

Committing the crimes Americans won't?

174 So where can I go to protest this outrage?

Cry to your Mama as soon as all the "uncles" leave.

175 Well, maybe they were worried the Chinese were gonna buy Louisiana.

176 It was late ... I had a lot of other things to read ... Radar said it was okay to sign ...

177

Shit like this is why I'm transitioning to eBay to get rid of my legitimately obtained DVDs.

Thank god the criminals will never think of that.

178 And the Feds haven't said anything yet? You'd think the Treasury Dept. would be on this like white on rice.

179 Oh noes! This disqualifies Jindal!!11!!!11

Now we see how The Newt's strategy works: do nothing for years, and the opposition has nothing to use against you!

Seriously, I suspect any halfway intelligent appeals court -- or circuit court -- will toss this POS in a heartbeat.

_{Except, maybe, in Louisiana.}

Of course that wonderful Beacon of Democracy, Chuckie Shoo-muh, is cosponsoring a bill that makes immigration free & easy for aliens who have $500K to drop on real estate. Guess we won't hear about that, though. Expect a new $500K/illegal alien "real-estate stimulus" bill from the SCoaMF in 5...4...3...2....

180

Woops.

Accidently raped Biden a little bit there. Raped his name, I did.

181 Heya

182 Out here in CA, there is a sentiment that police are now using traffic infractions to sustain their existence.  A $150 fine for using a cell  comes across to some people as oppressive and money grubbing.  We know in our hearts that this is not a public safety issue, but rather a revenue enhancement.

Tell me about it.  The traffic fines here in CA are a scandal, IMO.  My daughter paid nearly $700 on a speeding ticket for a 55 in a 35 zone.  This crap is as regressive a tax as there is, devastating the budget of a working class family.

I loathe our fucked up legislature.  This state has gone completely into the shitter.

183 Well the good news is that if this is a red state there is no excuse to not repeal it as soon as possible.

184 @182 Just the opposite. The feds are drooling and probably have Jindal's advisors in the White House as we speak consulting on how to craft a federal version.

185 yeah, but then enforcement goes into place, where there's a bunch of undercovers whose job it is to bust small businesses that go all cash under the table.

Oh yeah, that's a detail I'd want to be on.  Don't know if you'd be in more danger from the proprietors or the other customers.

186

Of course that wonderful Beacon of Democracy, Chuckie Shoo-muh, is cosponsoring a bill that makes immigration free & easy for aliens who have $500K to drop on real estate.

So, you mean, a bill that makes immigration free & easy for aliens who have access to a Bank of America branch?

187 I loathe our fucked up legislature.  This state has gone completely into the shitter.

The shitter. The only way to get to the ocean in E. Colifornia without a three hour traffic jam.

188 Serfdom or Bust

189

Probably it was passed as a law and order issue. That would make it very popular.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 20, 2011 01:47 PM (XdlcF)

 

 

i just don't see how anyone can believe this would pass constitutional muster, does the Constitution even matter to them anymore, or has it become merely an obstacle that the poor, put-upon Ruling Class has to get around for our own good? 

but it's a "law and order" issue, so it's ok?

 

and people are buying that?

 

it makes me want to shake them and yell "don't you give away my freedom, you f-ing a-hole!"

 

i get frustrated with people sometimes, but it's really not their fault, they are being decieved and manipulated...

190 I worked in the Governor's Office in my state over 20 years ago. Trust me, every bill that comes through was thoroughly read and vetted by staffers and the Attorney General's Office.

For this to get through says that Jindal either supports the law or is inept.

191

 

§ 5103. Legal tender   United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues. Foreign gold or silver coins are not legal tender for debts.

192 Welcome to Barter Town.

193 For this to get through says that Jindal either supports the law or is inept.

Personally, I don't think he cares one way or another.  Jindal was never serious about actually doing the job of governor; he's a ladder-climber and the job was just another rung toward his national aspirations.

194 We were wondering what the 5th Column was doing while we were all making fun of stinky hippies.

Now we know.

195 "Wait, I did some checking...both houses of the Legislature are majority f'n Republican?!?

Whiskey.  Tango.  Foxtrot. Oscar?!?"

Republican politicians are (with few exceptions) big fans of an ever-growing police state. Where have you been?

196 One Ewok. Ewok for sale. He's going cheap. Only seven guineas. That -- or thereabouts; credit card only.

197 Remember/aware of civil asset forfeiture laws?  No jury trial.  Way to go. 

198 #151
Paypal will likely be requesting tax ID's from most people in the US, due to the recent IRS changes. I sell on Etsy [and Ebay] and numerous sellers on Etsy received emails from PP requesting tax ID yesterday and today.

199

but it's a "law and order" issue, so it's ok?

No, I wasn't saying that I think it's okay,  just that the legislators went "oh, it's for the children for law enforcement and didn't think it through.

The quote in the post says

Hardy says the bill is targeted at criminals

It's like they want to believe it's narrow and targeted.

200 There is a story on drudge about people trading stolen copper for crack.

201

They do realize that ALL second-hand goods have already been taxed once, right?

LOL! Carry that thought on out:

 

Second hand goods paid a sales tax once as they were bought by money that was taxed as income when it was earned. During it's useful life many second hand goods were also taxed as "inventory" or "property" taxes while on the vendor's shelves. They may also have been taxed at the point of sale for targeted luxury items like cars, or planes, or those pesky private jets.

JUST ONCE I'd like the average American to be forced to tally up all the taxes he's paid over the course of a year and be confronted with the actual percentage Uncle Sam requires of his efforts to earn a living. When you talk with people they think that total is somewhere around 30-40%. But when you actually do the math...go through and figure out what percentage you pay for gas is taxes. Add up the income, sales, property, road use, licensing, Federal, State and all the local taxes people are stunned to find out that sooner or later the Govt. is getting 60-80% of what they have produced. That really only 20-40% gets to the farmer for their food or the UAW worker that built their car.

If the actual percentage was common knowledge we'd be dealing with insurrection in the streets and revolutions AGAINST the clowns involved with OWS....and many of our govt authorities.

202

I worked in the Governor's Office in my state over 20 years ago. Trust me, every bill that comes through was thoroughly read and vetted by staffers and the Attorney General's Office.

Yeah, I was reaching a bit. I'm always careful not to draw sweeping conclusions based on a single media report. Having said that, I read the bill and it's pretty clear.

Odd, it still requires the buyer to record all kinds of information on the seller, but strikes the part about height, weight and race.

203 Woot - more reason to move the economy underground. More criminal transactions!!! It says no cash transactions.... What about barter? They can pass laws all day but the majority of the people won't care.

204

Dear Bobby Jindal,

WTFFFFFFFFF, huh?

205 193 i just don't see how anyone can believe this would pass constitutional muster, does the Constitution even matter to them anymore, or has it become merely an obstacle that the poor, put-upon Ruling Class has to get around for our own good?

Legislators don't worry about Constitutional issues anymore.  They think that's the business of the Courts only.

206 201 "Wait, I did some checking...both houses of the Legislature are majority f'n Republican?!?

Whiskey.  Tango.  Foxtrot. Oscar?!?"

Republican politicians are (with few exceptions) big fans of an ever-growing police state. Where have you been?

In Louisiana, "Republican" pretty much means "not black" and "in power" at this point when it comes to politicians.  It doesn't necessarily mean "conservative".

207 For this to get through says that Jindal either supports the law or is inept. Posted by: MrCaniac at October 20, 2011 02:01 PM (eKuOw) Did you mean to repeat yourself?

208 205

but it's a "law and order" issue, so it's ok?

No, I wasn't saying that I think it's okay, just that the legislators went "oh, it's for the children for law enforcement and didn't think it through.

The quote in the post says

Hardy says the bill is targeted at criminals

It's like they want to believe it's narrow and targeted.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 20, 2011 02:07 PM (XdlcF)

 

no, i understood you were saying that, wasn't attacking you.

... just folks in general.

209 10 I'm embarrassed to live in Louisiana today.

Just today?  I've been embarrassed by this f'n state for more years than I can count.  Moronic "legislators," sub-moronic clerks in stores and at the Post Office and any state or city department, streets like cracked neglected toenails, idiots who love hot sticky weather and are willing, nay, eager to sit out in it pulling red-black insectoids (crawfish) apart for a flake of meat -- the list of horrors goes on and on.

I managed to flee to CO for a while, but The Swamp dragged me back, so to speak, and I haven't been able to escape since. 

Every day here is like being screwed with a fresh cactus smeared with salsa and chili peppers.  This is only the latest outrage. . . .

210 What part of "legal tender" do they not understand?  The dumb ass who co-authored the bill (dem, go figure) said they wanted a paper record of the sales of stolen goods.  Because criminals carry photo IDs.  And never lie when filling out forms.  They just steal shit.  But when they sell it?  They are on the up and up,  brother!  And who again doesn't want a mandatory picture ID in order to vote?  Yeah,  the dems.

211 201 "Wait, I did some checking...both houses of the Legislature are majority f'n Republican?!?

...as of this year, for the first time since Reconstruction.  And only because a bunch of Democrats switched parties after 2010, in anticipation of getting wiped out during La.'s legislative elections this year.

Nearly all Republicans in Louisiana over the age of 50 are former Democrats.  Probably 2/3 or more over 40 are.

And Louisiana has NEVER been a conservative state by any stretch of the imagination.  We're evangelical populists, and y'all had better believe we'll stick our collective hand in the national pocket every chance we get.

212 This note may be legal for all debts, private and public, but you don't have the debt at the point of purchase.  You don't owe anything for something you haven't purchased and if you steal it, that's conversion.  Paying for something does not discharge an action for replevin.  I suspect the legal for all debts is where you incur a debt to someone as a result of, say, gambling, or hiring someone to do work for you, and you can pay them in greenbacks.  Now, maybe case law says that that applies to a transaction where the seller wants coins or precious metals, I don't know.

213 Jindal better reverse himself on this if he wants to go forward in his political career.

214 Still holdin' out for Bobby "Seance it ain't True" Jindal for P or VP?

215  And the Feds haven't said anything yet? You'd think the Treasury Dept. would be on this like white on rice. Posted by: joncelli

RACIST!

216 I managed to flee to CO for a while, but The Swamp dragged me back, so to speak, and I haven't been able to escape since.

I've escaped a couple of times now, but family brought me back.  I'll be getting out again before long, though, and this time I swear to God I'm never looking back.  This state is hopeless.

217 This does not bode well for my favorite show; "Storage Wars."  I don't think any of them can even carry credit cards or checks.

218 It's a law that was passed during this year's busy legislative session.

So Jindal actually signed it?

Louisiana residents: You would do well to take note of this. Especially as Election Day approaches.

219  I'd love to see their definition of "second hand" goods.

Seller: Really officer,  it is new.

Buyer: Officer,  I believe this man.  This item certainly looks new to me.  ( Here's your money, bro. )

220

" and it would be a good thing if someone cornered Perry on where he stands on this."

Why should it make any difference? This was a Louisiana bill, from the Louisiana Legislature, signed by a Louisiana Governor. What does Rick Perry have to do with it?

If you are saying Perry needs to explain why Jindal did this due to a endorsment for POTUS, well, that is pretty pathetic even for a Romney fan.

The bill is stupid and Jindal should be the one explaining his approval of it, not Perry.

221 @227 Getting a little uncomfortable? Jindal and Perry seem to think alike, no?

222 ^{Did you mean to repeat yourself?}

^{Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Duh at October 20, 2011 02:12 PM (bxiXv)}

No, but I did.

223
I'm increasingly on board with Joe Huffman's Jews In The Attic Test for any new legislation. Note the last example.....

224 This note may be legal for all debts, private and public, but you don't have the debt at the point of purchase.  You don't owe anything for something you haven't purchased and if you steal it, that's conversion.  Paying for something does not discharge an action for replevin.  I suspect the legal for all debts is where you incur a debt to someone as a result of, say, gambling, or hiring someone to do work for you, and you can pay them in greenbacks.  Now, maybe case law says that that applies to a transaction where the seller wants coins or precious metals, I don't know.
Posted by: SFGoth

Seller:  Dude,  here's that thing you wanted.

Buyer:  Thanks,  bro.  How much do I OWE you?

Seller:  Dude,  you are currently in debt to me for $20.

Buyer:  Cool,  bro.  I understand my debt,  seeing as how I now own this thing I wanted.  Here is some currency which states that it is in fact legal for paying off my debt to you since we are standing here in the US of A.

Seller:  Thanks,  dude.

Buyer:  No problem,  bro.

225 ^{206 There is a story on drudge about people trading stolen copper for crack.}

^{Posted by: yankeefifth at October 20, 2011 02:09 PM (loM0R)}

Drug addicts trade anything for drugs. 15 years ago my sister's house was broken into, 6 months later the cops raided a crack house and found her stereo and cordless phone. Most crimes are committed by drug addicts, not professional criminals.

226 139 maybe jindal did not have time to read the bill.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 20, 2011 01:48 PM (loM0R)

I looked it up.  The entire bill is only a couple of pages long, and it was a stand-alone bill.   It was NOT hidden in a larger bill.  Jindal and the Republicans who are the majority in both houses of their legislature own this.  Screw the lot of them, 4 ways: long, wide, deep, and continuous.

Subotai Bahadur

227 223  I've escaped a couple of times now, but family brought me back.  I'll be getting out again before long, though, and this time I swear to God I'm never looking back.  This state is hopeless.

I'm gonna do like the sailor in the old story, who retired after 40 years at sea.  He took an oar and started walking inland.  When he got to a place where nobody knew what the oar was for, that was where he settled down.

In my case I'll bring a picture of a crawfish.

228 Subotai Bahadur @ 233 What are you doing here? I have only seen you at rf's before.

229 sb @ 234 He needs to be made to own this. Regardless of his involvement he need to own his role in this mess and he needs to be responsible for solving this mess.

230 Hmmm...so what about places like Goodwill and the Salvation Army?  I volunteered at both and they get all kinds of stuff donated and then sell it, cash or credit.  You can get a receipt for your donation but much of the time the stores never even see the donors thanks to outside bins.  The government has already made it crazy for these groups with laws on lead, recalls, etc.  So now they won't be allowed to sell for cash?

231 Can we point another hurricane at Louisiana, please?  The last one was insufficiently thorough...

232 The outrage becomes more potent when you learn that the bill was co-sponsored by six Democrats.... and NINE Republicans.

233 They'll just use stolen credit cards now, instead of cash.

234 238 Can we point another hurricane at Louisiana, please?  The last one was insufficiently thorough...

Hold your damn horses; we're still processing the request for a 9.0 earthquake in California.

235

 Article I, Section 10

No State shall . . . make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts;

It is blatantly unconstitutional.
How do they come up with this nonsense?

236 "It is convenient to have a system of laws where everyone is a criminal."

My old man used to tell me (circa 1980) that because there were so many laws in our country, everyone is a criminal (the tax code alone insures this).  It's just a matter of when they choose to enforce them.

Learn the meaning of this phrase: "jury nullification".

237 "There's a big problem with robberies here where the stuff gets fenced for cash immediately. " It seems maybe the police should be catching the people who steal stuff, but I guess that's too much to expect. Anyway, how does this law actually help the situtation? Theft and dealing in stolen goods are both illegal already. It won't stop looters from ripping out copper cabling. It won't stop dishonest purchasers from buying it. It's just stupid. And if Jindal argues otherwise, he's either dishonest or a complete idiot. He should have vetoed it, even if there was a good chance that he'd be overridden. He did not even attempt to do so. This is his fault.

238 "Hey, why not mandate that all cars have a chip in them that reports, in real time, the vehicle's position to a central police computer? That would make it easier for the State to prove a case in some situations."

This is known as a "cellular telephone." Hate to break it to you. At least until US v. Jones sorts out Fourth Amendment jurisprudence (and possibly after, if that case doesn't make major changes), you'd be surprised at what cops can get away with.

239 #227 If you are saying Perry needs to explain why Jindal did this due to a endorsment for POTUS, well, that is pretty pathetic even for a Romney fan.

If we are going to get insulting, then I have to answer.  For the record, I supported Palin until she declined to run, now support Cain; but will vote for the eventual nominee unless it is Paul or Romney.  On a good day, with a downhill run, and a blazing tailwind; Romney is this year's version of John McCain in 2008.  It is not a good day, the run is uphill, and into the wind.

That said:

1) Perry [who I could vote for if he wins] got the benefit of Jindal throwing his support to him.  This was particularly applicable to segments of the TEA Party that wanted Jindal to run early on. Perry happily accepted that support and endorsement.

2) Jindal's statist idiocy therefore does have some reflection on Perry, unless Perry disavows it.  Just as those #Occupy anal orifii are tainted by the declarations of support by both the CPUSA and American Nazi Party, not to mention Buraq Hussein.

3) If Perry is asked about it and distances himself, all to the good.  That will help mobilize resistance against it.  And that will boost his popularity with the Patriot movement.  Which boost would be deserved.

4) If he doesn't distance himself, or tapdances around it, then that tells us things we would need to know about him.  Myself, I'm hoping he tells Jindal to take his no cash transactions for second-hand goods, fold it until it is all corners, and shove it somewhere darker than Buraq Hussein's heart.

5) And I am not at all averse to having all those running, including Cain, asked the same question.  For the same reasons.  It will increase pressure on Jindal and the sogannante Republicans in La.; and it will help us disqualify those who try to talk around it.  Support for this should be disqualifying.  But, they are second in line for questioning, because Jindal did not endorse them.

Subotai Bahadur

240 @#245  Actually, a "smartphone" - there are still plenty of antique cell phones around without GPS.

241 Volokh has a posting on this issue, citing precedence.  It appears that they can force you to purchase something with checks, credit cards et al.

242 Posted by: Subotai Bahadur at October 20, 2011 03:25 PM (l1dw/)

You are aware that this is a State of Louisiana issue that Rick Perry had nothing to do with and that nobody even knew about until this week, don't you Freedom Fighter?

Still ass-hurt over Palin, eh?

243

"I'm gonna do like the sailor in the old story, who retired after 40 years at sea.  He took an oar and started walking inland.  When he got to a place where nobody knew what the oar was for, that was where he settled down."

Here in Colorado we have a similar story, but the guy puts a snowplow on his truck and drives south til somebody asks "What the hell is that?".

244 Aim to misbehave.

245 If you like a lot of hassle, you can remove the battery from your GPS-enabled phone except when you're actually using it.

246 Jindal and the Republicans who are the majority in both houses of their legislature own this.  Screw the lot of them, 4 ways: long, wide, deep, and continuous.

Sometimes you have to wonder just what goes through these people's heads when they do shit like this.

247 Its the Waco rules writ large.
Laws are only for little people.
Up the tyrants arses!
There's going to be a fight.
Lets Win.

248 In my case I'll bring a picture of a crawfish.
Posted by: Benzadmiral at October 20, 2011 02:42 PM (WuRdj)

I'm pretty sure that Hell is a eternal crawfish boil.  At least for me, it will be.

249 @247: it's not just smartphones.  Lots of regular cell phones have E911 GPS in them for the police even if the phone offers no GPS functionality to the user.

250 Interestingly, this law might violate the Constitution. Know that little phrase on your paper currency that reads "legal tender for all debts public and private"? That comes directly from the Constitution, which gives Congress the power to define legal tender. That mean if you tender it, and the person doesn't take it, your debt is considered to be paid. They HAVE to take it, or they lose their claim. Now LA is trying to declare that U.S. currency is NOT valid legal tender. Sorry, but the "supreme law of the land" takes precedence. A state cannot undo Congress' definition of legal tender.

251 Wait - isn't it illegal to ban the use of money?

252

I have to bring a musical note to this discussion: If you check Frank Zappa's Joe's Garage, the main premise is that everything is illegal. IIRC, he also mentioned it in his Playboy interview shortly before he died.

It is me, or is everything going to shit faster and faster every single day?

253 Don Quinine @ 257:

All cellphones capable of working with the current networks have location ability.  There is the coarse cell tower location data that the cell networks generate constantly based on triangulating your signal to the various towers in your area.  They store that information even if your phone can't even request a copy of the data.  Then there is actual GPS information that every phone is capable of receiving but most dumb or feature phones only do it if you call E911, probably because the patent royalties are less expensive if it is only used for that one government mandated purpose.  Then many feature phones and pretty much all smart phones expose the GPS information to the user AND the network provider at various times.  They don't track it all the time because leaving the GPS radio enabled all the time is a significant battery drain.  But there is almost certainly a backdoor way for the cell provider to request a GPS fix, especially in carrier locked phones.  That means law enforcement can also get at it with a court order.

So the bottom line is everyone should consider themselves lo-jacked at all times if they have an operating cell phone on their person.  You don't need to remove the battery though, just switching it off or putting it into airplane mode should be enough to stop most tracking.  Would the government risk inserting a hack to defeat airplane mode?  Not unless you were UBL or perhaps a leader of a major crime family.

254 People .. people .. we've been through this before ... you might as well talk about those Masonic symbols on the dollar bill ... Businesses already refuse to accept cash on their own, and the state of Louisiana certainly has the power to mandate that they do so.

255 If Federal Reserve Notes are "legal tender for all debts public and private."  Is prohibiting a cash transaction even constitutional?  Doesn't Federal law (and perhaps that pesky commerce clause require that Federal currency be accepted?

256

#5 & #7:

Signed by Executive on Jul 1, 2011
Action: Signed by the Governor. Becomes Act No. 389.
Date: Jul 11, 2011

Yeah, he did. :-(

257 So does this mean that the U.S. Dollar is no longer considered legal tender for all debts public and private?

258 I'd love to see their definition of "second hand" goods.

Seller: Really officer,  it is new.

If it's new to you, it's new. Fuck em.

259

I cant imagine Jindal actually signing something so obviously fascist but it would be an enlightening look if he did as to who he really is politically.

I did better today, Im i the 200s,not the 300s.Weee!

260 this seems to be an obvious admission that crime is spiralling out of control there.

261 USD must be accepted for any transaction.  it's likely to be ruled unconstitutional.

262 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

263 Yep! I was agreed, I'll keep in touch to your blog.

264 Wow this is soo helpful I have been trying to figure this out on my own for a long time now. Hopefully making this change will help encourage discussion on my blog.

265 IÂ’ve been looking everywhere for this! Thank goodness I found it on Bing.Thx

266 #216, I was rarely happier than when Fort Polk and Leesville, Louisiana was in my rear view mirror for what I hope was the last time.

But stuff getting stolen for scrap was a big-ass problem at Polk. In between rotations, the locals (the Pitkin Bandits) drove into the training area and stole EVERY fucking air conditioner off one of the forward operating bases. People would drive out into the impact area to cut up old target vehicles for scrap. I had a couple old M113 APCs I used to drive past. One time over a four-day weekend the tail ramps, probably a half-ton piece of aluminum plate, vanished off all three of them. That's pretty fuckin' ambitious right there. Kinda had to admire it a little though.

267 I was very happy to search out this web-site.I needed to thanks to your time for this excellent read!! I definitely enjoying each little little bit of it and I have you bookmarked to check out new stuff you weblog post.

268 If I lived in Louisiana I would grab pitchforks and torches and march on the governor's home, what kind of Marxist piece of shit runs that state?

269

"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. When there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws."

- "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand