April 20, 2011

Marist Poll: Obama's Got Re-Election Problems
— Ace

At Hot Air. A bad poll for Obama, even with a big Democratic skew.

Even among Democrats, Obama isn’t a slam-dunk. He gets 70% of that 35% to commit to his re-election bid, but 12% “definitely” plan to vote against him. Obama-cons are in short supply as well, as only 3% of Republicans in the survey will vote for the incumbent. Nearly a majority of independents have made up their mind to oppose Obama, 47%, with only 32% planning on casting a vote for him and 21% undecided.

The problem is that white as a whole are moving away from him. And, specifically, working class whites, who were never really a strongly pro-Obama group, are even less supportive of him now than they were in 2008.

Even back in 2008, in the primary between Hillary and Obama, working class whites were a tough get for Obama.

Recent voting patterns underscore Obama's continued poor performance with these voters, who are often pivotal in general election swing states like Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

I won't quote the now-irrelevant specific numbers from an old poll, but it was basically a 60+/35 split among the white working class for Clinton and Obama, respectively.

Check out this bias from this article:

The AP-Yahoo poll shows less educated whites present a problem to Obama in part because of who they are. Besides being poorer, they tend to be older than white college graduates — and Clinton has done strongly with older white voters.

Yet political professionals and analysts say more is at play. They blame Obama's problems with blue-collar whites on their greater reluctance to embrace his bid to become the first black president, and his failure to address their concerns about job losses and the battered economy specifically enough.

Notice how casually this imputation of racism is made. The white working class were not terribly impressed by the abstract, almost-entirely-irrelevant agenda item of getting a half-black man into the Oval Office, but instead sought concrete, wallet-level proposals from Obama on how to actually fix the economy.

I would suggest it was the Always Bet on Black contingent that was more racist, the white working class that wanted some concrete policy details that wasn't racist. But, whatever.

Now, in the actual 2008 election, Barack Obama did fairly well with with whites (and white working class voters, too). Not enough to take these groups outright -- few Democrats manage that. But the trick for a Democrat is not to win whites, but to lose them by a narrow enough margin that the huge Democratic margins among minorities and college-educated single women can put him over the top.

He did that in 2008 -- he lost whites by a small enough percentage that single women and minorities gave him a comfortable majority. But he's losing them now. Or, past perfect again: Has lost them.

[P]olls consistently suggest he may struggle to match the modest 43 percent support among whites that he drew in 2008, according to the Edison Research exit poll. In the 2010 mid-term election, according to the Edison exit poll, just 37 percent of whites backed Democrats in House races, while 60 percent supported Republicans-the highest share of the white vote Republicans have won in a House election in the history of modern polling. Obama's approval rating among all whites in the Pew survey stands at a similar 38 percent.

But remember the 2010 electorate was probably much whiter than the 2012 electorate will be.

...

Obama's best group in the white electorate remains well-educated women, who tend toward more liberal positions on social issues as well as greater receptivity to government activism. In the new poll, 56 percent of college-educated white women said they approved of Obama's performance. That's a slight improvement from the 52 percent of such women who voted for him in 2008, according to the Edison Research exit poll. It's also a big improvement from the 43 percent of college-plus white women who backed Democratic House candidates in 2010. (Well-educated white women provided substantially more support for Democrats in some key 2010 Senate races, including contests in Colorado, California and Wisconsin.)

Good Lord. Well-educated white women. If you're wondering how Obama's job approval stands at 45% or better, this is the group that's screwing everything up.

(Present company excepted, of course!)

The rest of the white electorate remains deeply cool to Obama, the Pew survey found....

Obama's approval rating in the Pew survey stood at just 34 percent among white women without a college education-the so-called waitress moms. Democrats have often had high hopes for capturing those economically-strained, culturally-conservative women, but the new result only underscores their consistent Republican tilt: Obama won just 41 percent of them in 2008, and House Democrats just 34 percent of them in 2010.

The toughest group for Obama remains white men without a college-education-the blue-collar workers who constituted the foundation of the Democratic electoral coalition from 1932 to 1968. Just 35 percent of them said they approve of his performance in the Pew poll. That's below even the 39 percent of them Obama carried in 2008, though slightly above the Democrats' microscopic 32 percent showing with them in 2010, according to the exit poll. All of these results suggest that the gap between Obama's support among college-educated white women and non-college white men-which stood at a formidable 13 percentage points in 2008-might easily widen even further in 2012.

All told: If you're in a liberal-leaning group and are comfortable enough economically to only care about more abstract things like social issues (abortion forever), racial solidarity (gotta give our brother a second chance), racial condescension (wouldn't be fair to boot out a black guy just because he's unqualified and a failure), and also don't care about taxes, you're pro-Obama. Plus, anyone getting handouts from the government, or whose jobs depend directly on a large government.

Everyone else is moving away. Way too slowly for me to feel comfortable about it, but it does look like there's movement away.

Obama needs to do better with one group that has turned strongly against him: older whites. Older whites were never big fans of his, but since ObamaCare and everything else they have turned strongly against him.

And that, of course, is the reason the GOP is going to talk up Ryan's proposal but only in abstract, let's-have-a-conversation terms, and that's why the Democrats are going to run on that like there's no tomorrow. This is the big swing group in this election -- if older whites can be persuaded that no one's worth voting for in 2012, or, even better, that Obama, for all his failures, will keep Medicare intact (right until the moment it implodes and the checks stop entirely), he can actually win this thing.

Posted by: Ace at 09:42 AM | Comments (243)
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1

would suggest it was the Always Bet on Black contingent that was more racis

 

Passenger 57 quotes is why i love this blog

Posted by: Ben at April 20, 2011 09:44 AM (wuv1c)

2 Raaaacist, the lot of us!

Posted by: Red Shirt at April 20, 2011 09:45 AM (FIDMq)

3 OT, is this rediculous Debt ceiling going to be a seperate vote or will it be coupled to something else. Anybody who votes to raise needs to be primaried

Posted by: Red Shirt at April 20, 2011 09:46 AM (FIDMq)

4

Say what you want...the guy knows how to sell Watermelons.

Posted by: Dan Rather at April 20, 2011 09:47 AM (0oUd+)

5 The IPAB thing should be the core Republican talking point.

Something like:

"Obama is claiming Ryan is planning to decimate Medicare - while he's already staked it and is watching it bleed dry. The IPAB waiver is a giant bandaid to allow the gullible press to be able to say 'pay no attention to the man behind the curtain'."

They are the actual death panels. And: They're already enacting cuts. Which Obama is postponing until after the election.

Pro Obama = Pro Death Panels.

Posted by: Al at April 20, 2011 09:49 AM (MzQOZ)

6 well-educated, white women = working for a government or government-related job (health care, education, etc.), also, zero to 1 children.

Posted by: jimmuy at April 20, 2011 09:49 AM (4bA7z)

7 Wonder how often fried chicken and collard greens are on the menu at the WH?

Posted by: Fuzzy Zoeller at April 20, 2011 09:49 AM (FIDMq)

8 "In Watermelon Sugar the deeds were done and done again, as my life has been done in Watermelon Sugar."

Posted by: Dan Rather reads Richard Brautigan at April 20, 2011 09:51 AM (0oUd+)

9 Obama-cons are in short supply as well, as only 3% of Republicans in the survey will vote for the incumbent.

these people should perhaps consider what a 'Republican' is.

Posted by: negentropy at April 20, 2011 09:51 AM (27KAF)

10 Obama's best group in the white electorate remains well-educated women, who tend toward more liberal positions on social issues as well as greater receptivity to government activism.

Yeah, my white, well-educated sister, who is having to clean houses for a living since her ad agency went under, still loves her some Barry. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh, proud to be a at April 20, 2011 09:51 AM (UOM48)

11 And, specifically, working class whites, who were never really a strongly pro-Obama group, are even less supportive of him now than they were in 2008.

"Working class" but not actually "working" tends to have that effect.

Posted by: Andy at April 20, 2011 09:52 AM (5Rurq)

12 Is "big Democratic skew" a typo?

Posted by: andycanuck at April 20, 2011 09:52 AM (Y1DZt)

13 It looks like all the ARRA money is finally being spent with little effect on the employment numbers. Now, everybody believes something different ought to be hauled out to knock this bum out of office, but to me "a trillion dollar failed stimulus" is how we necktie the guy.

Posted by: spongeworthy at April 20, 2011 09:54 AM (rplL3)

14

"At a certain point, I think you've made enough money, and you know, part of the american way is, that you can just keep making it..."

 

Posted by: Barack 'Mo Money Mo Problems' Obama at April 20, 2011 09:55 AM (0oUd+)

15 Obama-cons are in short supply as well, as only 3% of Republicans in the survey will vote for the incumbent.

No, 3% of the respondents are either liars or idiots. This is probably the same 3% that say they have talked to Elvis since 1977.

Posted by: Vic at April 20, 2011 09:55 AM (M9Ie6)

16

Well educated white women = that Iowa professor from the side bar!

Oh, and I want my free subscription.  I say she is a professor of The Effects of Over Use of Brown Acid During the Sixties and Seventies by Ugly Smelly Hippy Chicks Who Would Go On to Become Professors of...

The Effects of Over Use of Brown Acid During the Sixties and Seventies by Ugly Smelly Hippy Chicks Who Would Go On to Become Professors of...

The Effects of Over Use of Brown Acid During the Sixties and Seventies by Ugly Smelly Hippy Chicks Who Would Go On to Become Professors of...

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 20, 2011 09:57 AM (jx2j9)

17

The headline just reeks of awesome

More than 7 million candles recalled due to fire risk.

Posted by: Red Shirt at April 20, 2011 09:57 AM (FIDMq)

18 Also: The trend seems that well-educated women have voted for a government-husband rather than a human-husband.
Easier, I suppose, to vote for a politician that promises to take care of your kids and then you in your old age than the day-to-day work of being a wife and mother.

Posted by: jimmuy at April 20, 2011 09:57 AM (4bA7z)

19

 >>> This is probably the same 3% that say they have talked to Elvis since 1977.

You say that like it's a bad thing...........

Posted by: Jerry Glanville at April 20, 2011 09:57 AM (exyM+)

20 Ace, check the headlines on the side of the main page.  The article about the U. of Iowa College Republicans deserves an article of its own due to the amount of lefty chutzpah on display.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 20, 2011 09:58 AM (UvFnc)

21 Obama won last time for one reason and one reason only. A large amount of the base stayed at home and that caused several normally red States to shift.

Since then those red States have shifted back. A few States like CO and NV have shifted to blue but they don't have the electoral votes to matter.

Obama will lose big unless we have another candidate that causes the base to sit at home.

Posted by: Vic at April 20, 2011 09:58 AM (M9Ie6)

22 O/T:  That hamburger pic in the sidebar is killing me. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh, proud to be a "slug" at April 20, 2011 09:58 AM (UOM48)

23 I think it's safe to say,  the downfall of our republic can be directly attributed to White Boomer Females and their spawn.

<ducks>


Posted by: Barbarian at April 20, 2011 09:58 AM (EL+OC)

24 Oh for crying out loud.  But the over 90% of Black people, who are going to vote for him solely because he is black, isn't racism at all. 

Posted by: runningrn at April 20, 2011 09:58 AM (ihSHD)

25

Obama's biggest problem is going to be intensity. In 2008 he had the youngsters riding the Unicorn dust. He doesn't have that now. They may say they tepidly approve of the job he's doing and some of them will vote for him. They aren't going to be manning phone banks, knocking on doors and sending him money like they did in 2008.

There is 25% unemployment with 18 to 29 year olds. In Seattle high school grads with 4.0 grades and college prep courses can't get into to UW because they are taking out of staters because they pay more.

In other words Obama didn't deliver.

Posted by: robtr at April 20, 2011 09:58 AM (MtwBb)

26 Obama's best group in the white electorate remains well-educated women, who tend toward more liberal positions on social issues as well as greater receptivity to government activism.

Well-schooled, perhaps, but definitely not "well-educated" IMHO.

In this circumstance, PhD means "Permanent Head Damage".

What is Obama's standing with working-class blacks and the black population as a whole?  It's still probably about 90%, but still, any crack in the monolithic black vote will spell certain political DOOM for Barry come 2012.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 20, 2011 09:59 AM (9hSKh)

27 Something to also look at is that the youth voter and the black voter turnout will not be as large in 2012 as it was in 2008. It's no longer novel and the economy being in the crapper worse than today will dull alot of ardour.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 20, 2011 09:59 AM (Y1DZt)

28

It rubs. the lotion. on my skin,

lest. the rhyme scheme. begin, again.

Make sure. you rubs it. on my nuts,

unless. you want to rubs it. on my putz.

Posted by: Jessie Jackson at April 20, 2011 09:59 AM (0oUd+)

29 The homely female multiple-cat owner Glee fan vote? LOCKED DOWN, motherfuckers.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Democrat Strategist at April 20, 2011 10:00 AM (h8pRl)

30 If the Republicans would only mention things like this, his numbers would be worse:

Obama ‘transparency’ Executive Order targets administration enemies

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 20, 2011 10:00 AM (uVLrI)

31 Cheeseburger!

Posted by: Zombie John Belushi at April 20, 2011 10:01 AM (0oUd+)

32 Good Lord. Well-educated indoctrinated white women. If you're wondering how Obama's job approval stands at 45% or better, this is the group that's screwing everything up.

Fixed for accuracy.  What, you think colleges are there to teach useful things?

Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord© at April 20, 2011 10:01 AM (GBXon)

33 Speaking of "well-educated" women:

Clinton says Syria must stop arrests, detention and torture of prisoners - Reuters

I'm sure Bashir Assad will get right on it. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 20, 2011 10:02 AM (9hSKh)

34

I don't what is more shocking; This Marist poll or:

A University of Iowa professor felt the need to reply to a blast email by the College Republicans on Monday morning. Ellen Lewin, a professor of Anthropology and Gender, Women’s & Sexuality Studies in the Department of Gender, Women’s & Sexuality Studies, sent a vulgar response to a College Republican email about the group’s, “Conservative Coming Out Week.”

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Lewin responded to email by writing, “#*@% [F-Word] YOU, REPUBLICANS” from her official university email account.

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Trully and utterly shocking.

 

Posted by: dananjcon at April 20, 2011 10:02 AM (pr+up)

35 Not all, but many well-educated, as was pointed out = government orientated jobs, white women tend to cling to only one issue and that is abortion. That is what sunk Ken Buck's ship in Colorado. The country is statistically on the pro-life side, except for this group. Sisterhood of the educated, empowered abortionists

Posted by: The Great and Secret Show at April 20, 2011 10:03 AM (NL03B)

36

NYT magazine is running an glowing paean to Oblahblah's mother.  It looks like the narcissistic nut didn't fall far from the malignant tree:

"nn uprooted Barry, at age 6, and transplanted him to Jakarta. Now she was up­rooting him again, at barely 10, and sending him back, alone. She would follow him to Hawaii only to leave him again, less than three years later.
 
“She was a very strong person in her own way,” Obama said, when I asked about Ann’s limitations as a mother. “Resilient, able to bounce back from setbacks, persistent — the fact that she ended up finishing her dissertation. But despite all those strengths, she was not a well-organized person. And that disorganization, you know, spilled over. Had it not been for my grandparents, I think, providing some sort of safety net financially, being able to take me and my sister on at certain spots, I think my mother would have had to make some different decisions. And I think that sometimes she took for granted that, ‘Well, it’ll all work out, and it’ll be fine.’ But the fact is, it might not always have been fine, had it not been for my grandmother. . . . Had she not been there to provide that floor, I think our young lives could have been much more chaotic than they were."

 

It also looks like he married someone just like his mother:

“She used to tear me apart,” says Kay Ikranagara, one of AnnÂ’s closest friends, in a tone that sounded almost fond. Ann told her she needed to be bolder and stronger. She made fun of her inadequacy in the kitchen. She told her she should give her housekeeper explicit instructions, not simply let her do whatever she wanted. “With everybody she was like that: she would tell them what was wrong with them,” Ikranagara said. Family members were not spared. “She was very scathing about the traditional Indonesian wife role,” Ikranagara recalled. “She would tell Maya not to be such a wimp. She didnÂ’t like this passive Indonesian female caricature. She would tell me not to fall into that.” 
 


Posted by: runningrn at April 20, 2011 10:03 AM (ihSHD)

37 And that, of course, is the reason the GOP is going to talk up Ryan's proposal but only in abstract, let's-have-a-conversation terms, and that's why the Democrats are going to run on that like there's no tomorrow.

So, you're saying there might actually be some benefit to not going for broke on spending right now and instead using a long term strategy based on political realities?  Heresy!  Stone the RINO unbeliever!

Posted by: pep at April 20, 2011 10:03 AM (GMG6W)

38


Fixed for accuracy.  What, you think colleges are there to teach useful things?

 

So many of them identify with Socialism because they got free treatment for their multiple Bladder Infections while they were studying abroad in Paris!

Posted by: Doc Joe Biden - GyroCollagenist at April 20, 2011 10:04 AM (0oUd+)

39 "Working class" but not actually "working" tends to have that effect.

Posted by: Andy at April 20, 2011 01:52 PM (5Rurq)

They hate the working class.  H-A-T-E.  Look at how they treat Sarah Palin.  Basically the jokes and hatred directed to her from the left is cultural. She's just too working class. She doesn't know her place. She has children, she goes to church, she didn't go to the right schools, how dare she?

Even the unions in Wisconsin were not arguing for the "working class" they staked everything on the "middle class".

Anybody who actually works for a living, who doesn't have an Ivy League law degree or a PhD in something that ends in studies should be running away screaming from the chai latte in a recycled cup crowd.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 20, 2011 10:04 AM (T0NGe)

40

In other words Obama didn't deliver.

 

I resent the comparison...

Posted by: Karl Malone at April 20, 2011 10:05 AM (ihSHD)

41

Something to also look at is that the youth voter and the black voter turnout will not be as large in 2012 as it was in 2008. It's no longer novel and the economy being in the crapper worse than today will dull alot of ardour.

Another telling  indicator of Obama's sagging popularity?

When was the last time you saw a collectible Obama tchotchke trinket for sale at a store or on an infomercial?

No more Obama plates, coins, chiapets, etc.

The love affair and infatuation stage is over. We've entered the "moved in together" stage, and people are starting to have some regrets.

Posted by: Ben at April 20, 2011 10:05 AM (wuv1c)

42 At some point, all the racist Union crackers are going to notice that Obama never did lace up those comfortable shoes, shoulder a picket sign and come march with them at the protests...

Posted by: runningrn at April 20, 2011 10:06 AM (ihSHD)

43 So Obama would be winning if it wasn't for all those old, stupid, Bible-clinging racist dudes.

Got it...

Posted by: Nighthawk at April 20, 2011 10:06 AM (OtQXp)

44 Obama-cons are in short supply as well, as only 3% of Republicans in the survey will vote for the incumbent.

these people should perhaps consider what a 'Republican' is.

Posted by: negentropy

 

I resent this witchhunt. Wait.. I don't. Do I?

Posted by: Mike Castle at April 20, 2011 10:08 AM (6rX0K)

45 runningrn, Sounds like Stanley was a real catch. Way to fuck us all because of your daddy issues, bitch. Punish US with your first fuck-trophy. I wish we could exhume her so I could backhand her skull.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Democrat Strategist at April 20, 2011 10:09 AM (h8pRl)

46 So I have a good chance to win?

Posted by: sack of potatoes at April 20, 2011 10:09 AM (wAQA5)

47

Fuck you WINGERS!!!111!!!

 

Posted by: Ellen Lewin at April 20, 2011 10:10 AM (pr+up)

48

Obama's best group in the white electorate remains well-educated women, who tend toward more liberal positions on social issues as well as greater receptivity to government activism.

Time to repeal the 19th Amendment. Past time, actually.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2011 10:10 AM (9kJ//)

49

Sounds like Stanley was a real catch. Way to fuck us all because of your daddy issues, bitch. Punish US with your first fuck-trophy.
I wish we could exhume her so I could backhand her skull.

 

As long as you can refrain yourself from raping it, I'm ok with that.

Posted by: runningrn at April 20, 2011 10:10 AM (ihSHD)

50 Proposal to unionize poll workers in 3... 2... 

Posted by: Beagle at April 20, 2011 10:10 AM (sOtz/)

51

Heh, RUBE's!

I Phone collects sensitive personal information of users and sends it to advertisers. You just can't trust them liberals.

http://tinyurl.com/3km38m4

 

Posted by: robtr at April 20, 2011 10:11 AM (MtwBb)

52

Fuck you WINGERS!!!111!!!

 

Posted by: Ellen Lewin

 

You go girl.

Posted by: Dr. Amy Bishop at April 20, 2011 10:11 AM (6rX0K)

53 47

Fuck you WINGERS!!!111!!!

 

Posted by: Ellen Lewin at April 20, 2011 02:10 PM (pr+up)


Ummm.....that wouldn't be DOCTOR Ellen Lewin, would it?

Posted by: Jane D'oh, proud to be a at April 20, 2011 10:12 AM (UOM48)

54 Listening to Obama go all Jesus Christ on us. "There's something about the resurrection of our Saviour Jesus Christ that puts everything else in perspective".  Phonus Balonus. Is anyone buying this?

Posted by: kansas at April 20, 2011 10:14 AM (mka2b)

55

The dirty Hymies. They runs  ew York.

now, moisturize. my flacid. Pork.

hurry, now. you handsome. Rake.

I do not want. my skin. to flake.

Posted by: Jessie Jackson at April 20, 2011 10:15 AM (0oUd+)

56

Oh, and Jeff, that article included crap that made Stanley Ann look like a lazyass twat (her son comes by that naturally too):

When Ann arrived, Lolo was in the army. His salary was low. On her first night in Indonesia, Ann complained later to a colleague, Lolo served her white rice and dendeng celeng — dried, jerked wild boar, which Indonesians hunted in the forests when food was scarce. But when Lolo completed his military service, his brother-in-law Trisulo used his contacts as a vice president at the Indonesian oil com­pany Pertamina to help Lolo get a job in the Jakarta office of the Union Oil Company of California. By the early 1970s, Lolo and Ann had moved into a rented house in Matraman, a middle-class area of Jakarta. The house was a pavilyun, an annex on the grounds of a bigger main house. It had three bedrooms, a kitchen, a bathroom, a library and a terrace. Like the households of other Indonesians who could afford it, it had a sizable domestic staff. Two female servants shared a bed­room; two men — a cook and a houseboy — slept mostly on the floor of the house or in the garden. The staff freed Ann from domestic obligations to a degree that would have been almost impossible in the United States. There were people to clean the house, prepare meals, buy groceries and look after her children — enabling her to work, pursue her inter­ests and come and go as she wanted.

 

I also loved this line:

Ann would finish teaching at 9 in the evening and sometimes not return home until midnight, Saman said. She seemed barely to sleep. She would stay up, typing and correcting BarryÂ’s homework, then get up again before dawn.

 

Yup, this set up a pattern for little Barry that would continue throughout his adult life.  The dude didn't do his own homework and he still doesn't. 




Posted by: runningrn at April 20, 2011 10:15 AM (ihSHD)

57 The problem is that white as a whole are moving away from him.


If that's a problem, I don't need a solution.

If that's wrong, I don't want to be right.

Posted by: Leo Ladenson at April 20, 2011 10:15 AM (mAm+G)

58 When was the last time you saw a collectible Obama tchotchke trinket for sale at a store or on an infomercial?

Franklin Mint is still pushing their beautiful and fashionable (bleah!) M'chelle doll. Although she's one step removed, true.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 20, 2011 10:16 AM (MyByM)

59

Thats RIGHT!!11!! DOCTOR ELLEN FUCKIN LEWIN!!! To YOU!!11

 

Posted by: Ellen Lewin at April 20, 2011 10:17 AM (pr+up)

60 A poll of 1274 votes, and 1084 registered voters, which is which now, they are torturing the numbers more than Jack Bauer did in Season 2 of 24

Posted by: Randolph Duke at April 20, 2011 10:17 AM (AYwIq)

61 With the Black population now at 10% or less (?), does it matter how they vote anymore? The black population is imploding by its on self doing. I feel sorry for those whom bought into the liberal BS spin and now are reaping the non-bennefits. Why, all you had to do is sit down and say: "Does this make sense to be a ward of the government (Democrats) and will my life get any better?". To the black American community you voted for it , now you live with it !!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Posted by: LaQuisha Demming at April 20, 2011 10:18 AM (By4wu)

62 Jeez, nobody told me there would be reading involved.  So in 2012, will the white working class 52%ers realize they were duped, or will they just double down on what was a bad bet to start with?

Posted by: NC Ref at April 20, 2011 10:18 AM (/izg2)

63 As far as Obama's 2012 chances go, I think he's in deep trouble.  If the Race Card is the only thing he can pull out in his favor, he's REALLY in deep trouble.

His approval ratings suggest his 2008 totals were a high watermark that he'll be lucky to reach again, both in EVs and vote percentage.  Combine that with a net loss of 7 EVs due to the census and his polling in several swing states and he's got issues.  He's under water in Indiana, North Carolina, Ohio, Florida, and Virginia at the least.  He's also in danger in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and probably New Hampshire and the Lincoln, Nebraska, Congressional District (1 EV). 

The first 5 plus the NE CD takes him down to 272 EVs.  If he loses another state past that, he's toast because his opponent either wins outright or, in a three candidate race, it gets thrown to the House and the VP race gets thrown to the Senate.  The GOP holds the overall majority plus a  majority of House delegations (including but not limited to NH, LA, FL, TX, AR, AK, AL, CO, ID, IN, GA, KY, MS, OK, WI, TN, SD, UT, etc.), so the Republican candidate would win in that situation.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 20, 2011 10:18 AM (UvFnc)

64

So this means all moronettes are unedjecated hicks?

WOOT!

Which ones of you'ns  wanna have my 12 fingered baby?

Posted by: Ed Anger at April 20, 2011 10:18 AM (7+pP9)

65

The problem is that white as a whole are moving away from him.

It's the, "There goes the neighborhood" , effect - in full effect.

Straight up Racism.

Posted by: Janeane Garofolo at April 20, 2011 10:19 AM (0oUd+)

66 OT: Why is there no talk of a challenger to Ben Casey Jr in PA? What's his poll numbers look like? I thought he basically flip flopped on every issue out there twice so why hasn't anyone stepped up yet?

Posted by: Rocks at April 20, 2011 10:19 AM (Q1lie)

67

College kids and blacks will not come out for him like they did in 2008. For example college kids: "2008 was so yesterday".

btw ace, I dont think trump will run. He is making noise. Ed posted a link on hotair that trump supported the auto bailouts. done and done.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 20, 2011 10:19 AM (YE84l)

68 "Obama-cons are in short supply as well, as only 3% of Republicans in the survey will vote for the incumbent."

So at least 3% of the Republicans are Democrats. I probably buy that. At least as far as this survey goes. That "wide tent" thing isn't necessarily a good thing, Rove, you pinhead.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 20, 2011 10:19 AM (Ilc9V)

69

"No more Obama plates, coins, chiapets, etc." 

That's because the white, working-class racists at the local range bought them up to use for target practice in between clinging to their religion and their guns.

 

Posted by: MWTexas at April 20, 2011 10:20 AM (N05oL)

70 34

I don't what is more shocking; This Marist poll or:

A University of Iowa professor felt the need to reply to a blast email by the College Republicans on Monday morning. Ellen Lewin, a professor of Anthropology and Gender, Women’s & Sexuality Studies in the Department of Gender, Women’s & Sexuality Studies, sent a vulgar response to a College Republican email about the group’s, “Conservative Coming Out Week.”

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Lewin responded to email by writing, “#*@% [F-Word] YOU, REPUBLICANS” from her official university email account.

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Trully and utterly shocking.


It gets better.

1. She's an Anthropology / Gender, Women, and Sexuality Studies professor.

2. Her "apology" was along the lines of "I'm sorry I hate you because you don't bow down to the LGBT agenda"

3. She had the chutzpah to complain that one of the students who told her to fark off referred to her in a reply by her first name instead of as "professor.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 20, 2011 10:21 AM (UvFnc)

71 Marist Poll

You spelled Marxist wrong.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 20, 2011 10:21 AM (I9hG4)

72 I have a dream that my two children will one day live in a nation where they can judge a politician not by the color of his skin but by the content of his character.

Posted by: toby928™ at April 20, 2011 10:21 AM (GTbGH)

73 As long as you can refrain yourself from raping it, I'm ok with that. Rape a liberal's skeleton? That's just gross.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Democrat Strategist at April 20, 2011 10:21 AM (h8pRl)

74
You guys hear about this?
There's a website that offers teens advice about issues they could face.

For instance, the website explains to teen girls that abortions aren't as bad as people say. And they teach kids how to hide their abortions from their parents.

And they tell girls to always carry with them condoms and lube because they never what's going to happen when they're out with others.

The Kicker: The state of MA funds this website to the tune of $100K, annually.

So never accept this bullshit about needing new revenue streams (taxes) and not being able to cut spending.




Posted by: Soothsayer 6 of 8 at April 20, 2011 10:21 AM (uFokq)

75 You folks who are thinking on a low turnout from the Commiecrat base better go back and look at 2010 again.

That was the source of all those people thinking 100 seat pickup in the House and turnover of the Senate. What was discounted in that "enthusiasm gap" was the union GOTV efforts. In States with strong union presence they got out the vote and our candidate lost.

There are certain realities to always keep in mind. The parties are both right at 50% of the electorate. The Party that is successful in its own GOTV effort will always win.

So do not discount the Dem GOTV. They are generally better at it than Repubs.

Posted by: Vic at April 20, 2011 10:21 AM (M9Ie6)

76 68 OT: Why is there no talk of a challenger to Ben Casey Jr in PA? What's his poll numbers look like? I thought he basically flip flopped on every issue out there twice so why hasn't anyone stepped up yet?

Posted by: Rocks at April 20, 2011 02:19 PM (Q1lie)

Nothin yet. He is under 50 right now. He is winning against possible challengers because of name recgonition. We need a candidate first before polls shore up.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 20, 2011 10:22 AM (YE84l)

77 She had the chutzpah to complain that one of the students who told her to fark off referred to her in a reply by her first name instead of as "professor.

Shut up. She's earned that title.

Posted by: Babs Boxer at April 20, 2011 10:22 AM (I9hG4)

78 No candidate will ever again win both "working-class white voters" and "well-educated white women," because the groups' interests have diverged entirely. Well-educated white women vote specifically against working-class white voters, for flame-causing reasons I won't whip out here.

The Ds seem to know that W-EWWs are motivated by that specific antagonism, so they narrowed their appeal, and replaced their cast-off "poors" (as the well-educated white women I know refer to working-class whites, with hatefully false irony) with Mexicans. That's accompli, with Republican complicity.

Now the GOP is terrified of alienating its statistically tiny remnant of the W-EWW vote (with its outsized media voice and social power, as demonstrated re: Palin) by appealing to working-class whites, by standing with "one of them," or anyone who even appeals to them, so—four more years.

At least four. I think whoever replaces Biden as the next VP gets four, too. Then comes DOOM.

Posted by: oblig. at April 20, 2011 10:22 AM (xvZW9)

79 Really?!  56% of college-educated white women approve of Obama's performance.  Well, it looks like not finishing college was the best decision I ever made.

Posted by: nogooddeed at April 20, 2011 10:23 AM (MZSfb)

80 He is vulnerable. We can win with a strong conservative. No reason to support a RINO just so we can get rid of Obama since we can beat him with an actual conservative. His record is appalling. The public is against his two main "accomplishments" Healthcare and stimulus. Deficit and debt are appalling. Bottom line, he got 52% of the vote in a year which was the best for Democrats in my lifetime. All the stars aligned in 2008. 52% is not a landslide despite what the media says. 5% switch and we win. Does anyone think it is impossible or even unlikely that 5% might switch? I don't. Fight like hell and we can replace this human destroyer with a conservative.

Posted by: Dan at April 20, 2011 10:23 AM (mXBxH)

81

OT: Why is there no talk of a challenger to Ben Casey Jr in PA? What's his poll numbers look like? I thought he basically flip flopped on every issue out there twice so why hasn't anyone stepped up yet?

He's got the seat for life. One of our problems in PA, and america in general, is that if your father was a popular elected politician, then the son or daughter gets a free pass.

I doubt anyone will beat Casey, besides he is considered more "centrist" than Joe Sestak was.

 

Posted by: Ben at April 20, 2011 10:24 AM (wuv1c)

82 "In the new poll, 56 percent of college-educated white women said they approved of Obama's performance."

Doesn't look like an education took. Or should I say the education actually did take. Whatever. They're demonstrably stupid whether learned or innate.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 20, 2011 10:24 AM (Ilc9V)

83 Waitress moms ?
Who the hell came up with that  one ?
Full disclosure . My wife has been a waitress , bartender , and restaurant manager . She still bartends occasionally .
I trust her judgement , intelligence and common sense more than Hillary Clinton , Valerie Jarrett , and Michelle Obama together .  Shit , throw in all the rest of the academic medusas in the administration as well .

Posted by: awkward davies at April 20, 2011 10:24 AM (YCW1b)

84 I got two words for anyone who won't vote for Me: RAY CYST!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at April 20, 2011 10:24 AM (c45xH)

85

College kids and blacks will not come out for him like they did in 2008. For example college kids: "2008 was so yesterday".

 

Yeah, unfortunately for Obama, some of those college voters have graduated, unable to find jobs, and are still living with their parents.  Sucks to be them.

Posted by: runningrn at April 20, 2011 10:24 AM (ihSHD)

86 Don't worry, we'll blow this one too. It's what we do.

Posted by: Your Republican "Betters" at April 20, 2011 10:25 AM (OMW7T)

87

3. She had the chutzpah to complain that one of the students who told her to fark off referred to her in a reply by her first name instead of as "professor.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge

This was my favorite part, right after the notion of a woomyns' studies prof using an obscene sexual term.

Posted by: Dr. Amy Bishop at April 20, 2011 10:25 AM (6rX0K)

88 77, I agree 100%. My great hope is that the new RNC head is focusing almost entirely on GOTV. Money is important of course, but with new media getting the message out is easier than ever. If our GOTV is even close to what the dems have, we win.

Posted by: Dan at April 20, 2011 10:26 AM (mXBxH)

89

Rape a liberal's skeleton?

That's just gross.

 

I was thinking just the skull.  You do have that mad rapist rep here.  (Just kidding!)

Posted by: runningrn at April 20, 2011 10:26 AM (ihSHD)

90 Whats a guy gotta do to get a cup of coffee around here??????

Posted by: Bill Clinton at April 20, 2011 10:27 AM (yQWNf)

91

just because I. exfoliate. this way.

do not think. that makes me. gay.

if Barack needs.to find. a new job.

he can polish. my wilted knob.

Posted by: Jessie Jackson at April 20, 2011 10:27 AM (0oUd+)

92 Doesn't look like an education took. Or should I say the education actually did take. Whatever. They're demonstrably stupid whether learned or innate.

Everything has its limit--iron ore cannot be educated into gold.

Posted by: Things Zombie Mark Twain might have said at April 20, 2011 10:28 AM (9hSKh)

93 Forget all this poll parsing, just answer three simple questions: How does JEF win VA, NC, and OH? You don't need a post grad degree in poly science to figure this, just poll these three States. Hell if PA goes Red its all over for JEF. Are things materially better in PA now? BTW, he has to win all three; 2 out of 3 is a loss electorally.

Posted by: Ginormous at April 20, 2011 10:28 AM (Q5+Og)

94 92 Whats a guy gotta do to get a cup of coffee around here??????

Posted by: Bill Clinton at April 20, 2011 02:27 PM (yQWNf)


You're in charge.  I got this party to be at or Michelle will kick my ass.  Again.

Posted by: BHO at April 20, 2011 10:28 AM (/izg2)

95 Boomer females with college degrees should be quarantined in a cage like they just got bit by a zombie and shot in the head if their hand so much as flinches toward the voting booth.

Posted by: Mr Pink at April 20, 2011 10:30 AM (rbgNr)

96 They're also stuck with Barry-- if anybody runs against him for the nomination, the black vote will rebel because the white folks are taking it away from the black man, and Dems can't win without the black vote.  Sorry, Cankles.

Posted by: nickless at April 20, 2011 10:30 AM (MMC8r)

97

Am I the only one who feels like the AP is racist against whites?

Any white race-hustlin' lawyers around here?  I may want to file a lawsuit because my feelings are hurt!

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at April 20, 2011 10:31 AM (mRJq4)

98

He's got the seat for life. One of our problems in PA, and america in general, is that if your father was a popular elected politician, then the son or daughter gets a free pass.

I doubt anyone will beat Casey, besides he is considered more "centrist" than Joe Sestak was.

 

Posted by: Ben at April 20, 2011 02:24 PM (wuv1c)


Yeah but wasn't BOB Senior so popular because he was a straight talker and stood his ground. It seems to me Junior has pissed on the legacy his father left him. I see there is someone announced who used to work for Santorum. I never had a problem with him but I think they should get someone with little association to Santorum so Junior can't just rerun his last race.

Posted by: Rocks at April 20, 2011 10:31 AM (Q1lie)

99 1. She's an Anthropology / Gender, Women, and Sexuality Studies professor. Wow, subjects I refuse to touch on in class (US government courses) in more than a glancing fashion. I always get a kick out of the questions about teaching diversity in the job interview process. The faces of the interviewers when I explain the mandatory diversity agenda is one of the many problems with college education is always worth knowing I'm not going to get the job. 2. Her "apology" was along the lines of "I'm sorry I hate you because you don't bow down to the LGBT agenda" Funny, I don't bow down to it either, or any other agenda. Yet I don't hate them for believing what they believe, even if I think its faulty. Odd how that type of prejudice works. 3. She had the chutzpah to complain that one of the students who told her to fark off referred to her in a reply by her first name instead of as "professor. I always allow my students to call me my first name. I always called my professors by their first name, unless I respected them; they had to earn my respect first. I feel the same way about my students with me. Otherwise, I'm just me, no title blowjob necessary. Funny how that type of self-fellatio works too.

Posted by: Doc at April 20, 2011 10:33 AM (OMW7T)

100 Boomer females with college degrees should be quarantined in a cage like they just got bit by a zombie and shot in the head if their hand so much as flinches toward the voting booth.

Posted by: Mr Pink

 

Now to show this to my sister -in-law (single, Federal government employee, never met an abortion she didn't love, possible the only woman in D.C. that Clinton didn't jump. And I'm still not sure as to whether she's relieved or annoyed by that last one).

Posted by: Dr. Amy Bishop at April 20, 2011 10:33 AM (6rX0K)

101 Ok, the Jesse Jackson poet sock is killing me! Especially the fucked-up Ebonic Pentameter.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 20, 2011 10:33 AM (h8pRl)

102

Now to show this to my sister -in-law (single, Federal government employee, never met an abortion she didn't love, possible the only woman in D.C. that Clinton didn't jump. And I'm still not sure as to whether she's relieved or annoyed by that last one).

Posted by: Dr. Amy Bishop

 

begone sock.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 20, 2011 10:33 AM (6rX0K)

103 95 Forget all this poll parsing, just answer three simple questions: How does JEF win VA, NC, and OH? You don't need a post grad degree in poly science to figure this, just poll these three States. Hell if PA goes Red its all over for JEF. Are things materially better in PA now? BTW, he has to win all three; 2 out of 3 is a loss electorally.

Posted by: Ginormous at April 20, 2011 02:28 PM (Q5+Og)

It is possible to win PA. You have to campaign like crazy throughout pittsburgh, pitt suburbs and all of western and T shaped PA. DO not campaign in Philly. Campaign in the philly suburbs. I live in the philly suburbs and not everyone is happy. Western workers in PA HATE Obama. It's philly that gives him the edge here. If we have a candidate much more adamant about family values and gun issues, we can win here. Pittsburgh is not as liberal as one might think. It went to our new R governor and Pat Toomey only lost it by 10%.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 20, 2011 10:33 AM (YE84l)

104 Anyone else here happy that we are spending $25 million dollars to send tents and halal meals to the Labian rebels?  Those must be some nice tents.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 20, 2011 10:34 AM (yQWNf)

105 So that means PAWLENTY! is a shoo-in! Awesome! Monty, you can stop with the DOOM! schtick now, it's all good.

Posted by: blaster at April 20, 2011 10:35 AM (Fw2Gg)

106 Old and busted:  Funemployed

New Hotness:  Superheroes


ORLANDO, Fla. – Florida officials are investigating an unemployment agency that spent public money to give 6,000 superhero capes to the jobless.

Workforce Central Florida spent more than $14,000 on the red capes as part of its "Cape-A-Bility Challenge" public relations campaign. The campaign featured a cartoon character, "Dr. Evil Unemployment," who needs to be vanquished.

Florida's unemployment agency director asked Monday for an investigation of the regional operation's spending after the Orlando Sentinel published a story about the program. State director Cynthia Lorenzo said the spending appeared to be "insensitive and wasteful."

Workforce Central Florida Director Gary J. Earl defends the program, saying it is part of a greater effort to connect with the community. The agency says it served 210,000 people during its last fiscal year, placing nearly 59,000 in jobs.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 20, 2011 10:35 AM (UOM48)

107 63 With the Black population now at 10% or less (?), does it matter how they vote anymore? The black population is imploding by its on self doing. I feel sorry for those whom bought into the liberal BS spin and now are reaping the non-bennefits.


Yes, that is one of the saddest things about the Obama tragedy: it will permanently (100+ years) wed black Americans to the failed ideology of the Dumbocrat party--in what can only be described as a plantation-style relationship. 

I have no great love for Colin Powell, but at least his campaigning and election would have shaken up black party affiliation for the better.

Posted by: Leo Ladenson at April 20, 2011 10:35 AM (mAm+G)

108

It is possible to win PA. You have to campaign like crazy throughout pittsburgh, pitt suburbs and all of western and T shaped PA. DO not campaign in Philly. Campaign in the philly suburbs. I live in the philly suburbs and not everyone is happy. Western workers in PA HATE Obama. It's philly that gives him the edge here. If we have a candidate much more adamant about family values and gun issues, we can win here. Pittsburgh is not as liberal as one might think. It went to our new R governor and Pat Toomey only lost it by 10%.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka

 

Put the lawyers and cameras in Philly. Have law suits ready to go to challenge the Phiily results. If Obama starts to flame out elsewhere, Philly will not waste the resources. Put campaigners everywhere else.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 20, 2011 10:36 AM (6rX0K)

109 Vic - Steele is gone, we won't be leaving our GOTV machine at the stripper bar this time.

Posted by: Jean at April 20, 2011 10:36 AM (0rXxT)

110

I think they should get someone with little association to Santorum so Junior can't just rerun his last race.

Posted by: Rocks at April 20, 2011 02:31 PM (Q1lie)

That's all they do.  Here, I'll give you every single Democrat election strategy.  "Republicans only care about big business and rich people.  They hate old people, women, children, minorities and the poor."

Posted by: buzzion at April 20, 2011 10:37 AM (oVQFe)

111 The article about the U. of Iowa College Republicans deserves an article of its own due to the amount of lefty chutzpah on display. It's on Hot Air

Posted by: fluffy is stirring at April 20, 2011 10:37 AM (4Kl5M)

112

Hickory. Dickory. Dock.

Rub the. Lotion. On my...

 

Posted by: Jesse Jackson at April 20, 2011 10:37 AM (pr+up)

113 Obama will lose big unless we have another candidate that causes the base to sit at home.

Posted by: Vic at April 20, 2011 01:58 PM (M9Ie6)

Vic, comments like this are best made with a sock, because we all know that you aren't that stupid.

Never overestimate the ability of the Republican party to destroy their momentum with a huge dud of a candidate.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 20, 2011 10:37 AM (LH6ir)

114

"It is possible to win PA. You have to campaign like crazy throughout pittsburgh, pitt suburbs and all of western and T shaped PA. DO not campaign in Philly. Campaign in the philly suburbs. I live in the philly suburbs and not everyone is happy. Western workers in PA HATE Obama. It's philly that gives him the edge here. If we have a candidate much more adamant about family values and gun issues, we can win here. Pittsburgh is not as liberal as one might think. It went to our new R governor and Pat Toomey only lost it by 10%."

 

Well I love to see a self made woman Republican candidate with real working class bonefides campaign hard in PA for freedom, financial security and making things better for the next generation. I truly believe the results would be remarkable. Right now I can only think of one candidate that could do that.

Posted by: Ginormous at April 20, 2011 10:38 AM (Q5+Og)

115

Workforce Central Florida Director Gary J. Earl defends the program, saying it is part of a greater effort to connect with the community. The agency says it served 210,000 people during its last fiscal year, placing nearly 59,000 in jobs.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

 

Most of which involved sewing capes and treating people for lacerations suffered by capes being caught on objects.

 

No capes!

Posted by: Edna Mole at April 20, 2011 10:38 AM (6rX0K)

116

Never overestimate the ability of the Republican party to destroy their momentum with a huge dud of a candidate.

Bob Dole resents that comment. Dittos McCain.

Posted by: Ginormous at April 20, 2011 10:39 AM (Q5+Og)

117

why. thank you. Sir.  I must re. ply.

would you? like to. moisture-ize. my thigh?

I could. keep. this up all day.

if you just rubbed. me. the right. way.

Posted by: Jessie Jackson at April 20, 2011 10:39 AM (0oUd+)

118

Well I love to see a self made woman Republican candidate with real working class bonefides campaign hard in PA for freedom, financial security and making things better for the next generation. I truly believe the results would be remarkable. Right now I can only think of one candidate that could do that.

Posted by: Ginormous

 

Forget it. Lady Gaga is touring.

Posted by: moron at April 20, 2011 10:39 AM (6rX0K)

119 Ebonic Pentameter


Better keep that one on the down-low, or they'll start teaching it around the corner at the Flavor Flav Public Charter School for Hip-hop-ology and Chronography.

Posted by: Leo Ladenson at April 20, 2011 10:40 AM (mAm+G)

120 Contrary to my optimistic demeanor I see a new demographic that will vote for Obama and that's the 2008 14 to 17 year olds. I also believe the disinterest blacks may be showing now will do a 180 once the election is near. They will regroup when they perceive Obama's reelection as a referendum on their race. What is needed is a large turnout by our side to win.

Posted by: polynikes at April 20, 2011 10:40 AM (7sQ6G)

121 I still say the way to run against him is the "you can't trust him or anything he says" campaign.  Because, one, it's true and secondly there are thousands of his liar statements that can be put in a commercial.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 20, 2011 10:42 AM (IXLvN)

122

This discussion reminds me of Colin Quinn's HBO bit on, eh, Perry Como (I think) if he were living in the modern gangsta street cred rap world.  His point was the debasing of popular culture.  Which is hard to argue when we're talking busting caps in people and stuff like that. 

Posted by: Beagle at April 20, 2011 10:43 AM (sOtz/)

123 The two biggest problems for the Republicans are the 2012 budget and running a weak candidate. If the Dems succeed at the class warfare game-- and they currently are-- then the Rs are going to have to drop some aspects of the budget if they want to win.* Second, a weak candidate who seem unserious or lacks charisma as compared to Obama would be a problem. Either way, the current issue is whether Obama looks good as compared to the Republicans in spite of his many failings.

What a screwed-up society.


*Unless the Rs start fighting harder about how the changes are delayed for 10yrs.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 20, 2011 10:43 AM (uVLrI)

124 "Obama needs to do better with one group that has turned strongly against him: older whites." Dear editor, Please correct to read "older non-racists".

Posted by: cherry π at April 20, 2011 10:43 AM (+sBB4)

125

Never overestimate the ability of the Republican party to destroy their momentum with a huge dud of a candidate.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 20, 2011 02:37 PM (LH6ir)

Hey Guys!! Hahaha, did you guys read about the Border Security folks sand- bagging it at the request of DHS?  Thank god! we're gonna need the Spanish vote in 2012!

 

Posted by: M. Huckabee at April 20, 2011 10:44 AM (pr+up)

126 In the new poll, 56 percent of college-educated white women said they approved of Obama's performance. That's a slight improvement from the 52 percent of such women who voted for him in 2008, according to the Edison Research exit poll.

Wait, what? College-"educated" women, having pulled the lever for Obama for whatever stupid fucking reason in 2008 (I hesitate to use the word reason, since a vote for Obama could never be a rational one), have now for more than two years seen his fecklessness, his uselessness, his preening, his bitchiness, his laziness, his golfing, his thin skin, his waffling, his vacillating, his punting, his languid reaction to crisis after crisis, and have gravitated even more into his camp? The mind boggles.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 20, 2011 10:44 AM (Q95Dr)

127 The shovel-ready President..

Posted by: TexasJew at April 20, 2011 10:44 AM (gdGPK)

128 Forget all this poll parsing, just answer three simple questions: How does JEF win VA, NC, and OH? You don't need a post grad degree in poly science to figure this, just poll these three States. Hell if PA goes Red its all over for JEF. Are things materially better in PA now? BTW, he has to win all three; 2 out of 3 is a loss electorally.

Posted by: Ginormous at April 20, 2011 02:28 PM (Q5+Og)

He can lose VA, NC, and OH --- and also FL and IN --- and still eke out an electoral majority by keeping the rest of the states he won in 2008.  The Republican candidate needs to take back these five key states (which according to polls shouldn't be a difficult accomplishment) and also win any additional state not won by McCain in 2008.

Posted by: DKCZ at April 20, 2011 10:45 AM (XRm2p)

129

I know it says that 56% of well-educated white women support Barky, but that also means that 44% of WEWW DON'T support him.

What percentage of the women in the poll were Democrats and how many were Republicans?  What were the party percentages for WEWW?

My bet is that the poll skewed heavily towards Dems, and that very few WEWW Republican women approve of Barry.

The good news is that most WEWW who are Democrats are an endangered species - there are many childless single women in that group, as well as many lesbians in that group.  The ones who are married probably only have one child.  They support abortion.  Their birthrate makes their "species" unsustainable.....

And a vast majority of those single, non-lesbian WEWW Dems will turn conservative once they have children -  

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at April 20, 2011 10:45 AM (mRJq4)

130

 

Well I love to see a self made woman Republican candidate with real working class bonefides campaign hard in PA for freedom, financial security and making things better for the next generation. I truly believe the results would be remarkable. Right now I can only think of one candidate that could do that.

Posted by: Ginormous at April 20, 2011 02:38 PM (Q5+Og)

I think Palin could win PA if she aggresively campaigns western.central. and norther PA. Philly suburbs will go her way too with gas. energy is her specialty.

She has to turn her image around with a campaign like hillary did though. I bet she will

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 20, 2011 10:45 AM (YE84l)

131 Good Lord. Well-educated white women. If you're wondering how Obama's job approval stands at 45% or better, this is the group that's screwing everything up.

To his credit, this is a point that Whiskey has been making at iSteve, Roissy's, etc.

SWPL white women nihilists [nihilistes?] are simply hopeless.

Posted by: at April 20, 2011 10:46 AM (F8Mp+)

132 123 I still say the way to run against him is the "you can't trust him or anything he says" campaign.  Because, one, it's true and secondly there are thousands of his liar statements that can be put in a commercial.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 20, 2011 02:42 PM (IXLvN)

Need an entire series of ads: "All Obama's promises come with an Expiration Date."  I say series, because 5 minute commercials aren't popular.

Posted by: buzzion at April 20, 2011 10:46 AM (oVQFe)

133

perhaps it is. too. forward. for me to aks.

but - would you? rub some. on. my ass?

have-ing seen. the way. you look at a. Turkey. Reuben-Rye.

I think. you might like. my Sweet Po. tay. to Pie.

 

Posted by: Jessie Jackson at April 20, 2011 10:47 AM (0oUd+)

134 After 2 years of Marxism... The shovel-ready economy

Posted by: cherry π at April 20, 2011 10:47 AM (+sBB4)

135 "Wait, what? College-"educated" women, having pulled the lever for Obama for whatever stupid fucking reason in 2008 (I hesitate to use the word reason, since a vote for Obama could never be a rational one), have now for more than two years seen his fecklessness, his uselessness, his preening, his bitchiness, his laziness, his golfing, his thin skin, his waffling, his vacillating, his punting, his languid reaction to crisis after crisis, and have gravitated even more into his camp? The mind boggles."

I don't care. Obama is awesome.

Posted by: College-educated Woman at April 20, 2011 10:47 AM (nd0uY)

136 Don't forget me ...I'm tan, rested and have just replaced the metal plate in my head..

Posted by: John McCain at April 20, 2011 10:48 AM (gdGPK)

137 Good Lord. Well-educated white women. If you're wondering how Obama's job approval stands at 45% or better, this is the group that's screwing everything up.

To his credit, this is a point that Whiskey has been making at iSteve, Roissy's, etc.

SWPL white women nihilists [nihilistes?] are simply hopeless.

Posted by:

 

That's nihlettes! Or is it nulls?

Posted by: This one's for the Ladies at April 20, 2011 10:48 AM (6rX0K)

138 Omnibus asbestos time, because I'm in one of those moods today.

Well-educated white women vote specifically against working-class white voters, for flame-causing reasons I won't whip out here.

How's about the WEWWs 'paid their dues' and are miserable, as opposed to their working class peers who seem happier and more fulfilled? Never underestimate the power of envy--or think it applies only to money...

With the Black population now at 10% or less (?), does it matter how they vote anymore?

12.3% by the 2000 Census.  For comparison, that's about as large a proportion as Americans of German descent.  Yes, that's right--less than one eighth of the total population.  That's all.  (I'll donate to the funeral of the first public figure who talks about 'disproportionate influence' on those grounds--they won't survive a fortnight, but the results would be tragicomedy gold, I tell you!)

Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord© at April 20, 2011 10:48 AM (GBXon)

139 I have an MBA, am a woman, am single and own several cats.  I can see NO circumstance under which I'd vote for Obama.  I'm also a boomer.  Don't paint us all with the same broad brush, please.

Posted by: rabidfox at April 20, 2011 10:48 AM (fK0cF)

140 Wait, what? College-"educated" women, having pulled the lever for Obama for whatever stupid fucking reason in 2008 (I hesitate to use the word reason, since a vote for Obama could never be a rational one), have now for more than two years seen his fecklessness, his uselessness, his preening, his bitchiness, his laziness, his golfing, his thin skin, his waffling, his vacillating, his punting, his languid reaction to crisis after crisis, and have gravitated even more into his camp? The mind boggles.

People such as they obviously never learned that stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 20, 2011 10:49 AM (9hSKh)

141 Marist?

Posted by: Niles Crane at April 20, 2011 10:49 AM (G5JPI)

142 I have an MBA, am a woman, am single and own several cats.  I can see NO circumstance under which I'd vote for Obama.  I'm also a boomer.  Don't paint us all with the same broad brush, please.

Posted by: rabidfox

 

she said 'broad' brush. Har.

Posted by: This one's for the Ladies at April 20, 2011 10:49 AM (6rX0K)

143 The white women all imagine dumping their beta boyfriends for me.  They don't know I only stand up for Kal Penn and goats.

Posted by: Obama's Imaginary Dick at April 20, 2011 10:50 AM (p05LM)

144 The hardcore enviro-leftist educated young woman I know was big on Hillary, not Obama.  Run, Hill, Run!    

Posted by: Beagle at April 20, 2011 10:51 AM (sOtz/)

145 "white educated women" The Mandingo Effect

Posted by: cherry π at April 20, 2011 10:51 AM (+sBB4)

146 Marist?

Posted by: Niles Crane at April 20, 2011 02:49 PM (G5JPI)


Thank you.  I think that every time I see it.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 20, 2011 10:51 AM (TpXEI)

147

Most Everyone belongs to one these differnt groups when it comes to the change in Obama's vote patterns from '08 to '12:

1. No matter if things are good or bad I vote for the dem.

2. I vote for the dem if I think things will get better for me.

3. I vote for the incumbent because that's who I know.

4. I vote against the incumbent because change is good.

5. I vote by flipping a coin because I am totally uninformed.

6. I vote for dem or rep depending on who I think will make things better for me.

7. No matter how good or bad things are I never vote for a dem, but I am open to third parties.  

8. No matter how good or bad things are I always vote for a third party.

9. I vote for the republican if I think things will get better for me.

10. No matter if things are good or bad I vote for the republican.

11. I vote if it's a historic thing, like electing the USA's first black/Kenyan/Muslim/Communist president.

12. I'm dead/illegal/voting multiple times so I'm voting dem, duh! 

13. If I knew then what I know now, I would not have voted for this narcisstic destroyer of our country. 

In most of these cases where Barry Sotero found votes in 2008 the numbers will have trended down as he has a record that people may consider in its effect upon them. Trends 2 and 6 are the independent voters and 11 are the emotional voters that will not turn out in the same numbers; those trends will be substantial enough to tank the undocumented President.

Posted by: Minuteman at April 20, 2011 10:52 AM (d6wkB)

148

You Rubz it hard. and rubzit slow,

You makez my Little Jesse grow.

Mad lotion skilz helpz my rashy,

Smoothez my skin, now itz not ashy. 

Posted by: Jesse Jackson, Oiled Down Shake Down Laureate at April 20, 2011 10:52 AM (ihSHD)

149 122 Contrary to my optimistic demeanor I see a new demographic that will vote for Obama and that's the 2008 14 to 17 year olds. I also believe the disinterest blacks may be showing now will do a 180 once the election is near. They will regroup when they perceive Obama's reelection as a referendum on their race.

What is needed is a large turnout by our side to win.

Posted by: polynikes at April 20, 2011 02:40 PM (7sQ6G)

Counting on the youth vote to win? HAHAHAHAHA.  They aren't going to have the excitement the 18 to 22 year olds of 2008 had for him.  They were voting for something special.  Now the youth vote would just be voting to re-elect.  And those 18 - 22 year olds of 2008?  I can't imagine them being to happy with him to vote again. Out of college and job market in the toilet, and well if they weren't working while at college they're not being counted as part of the unemployed.

Posted by: buzzion at April 20, 2011 10:52 AM (oVQFe)

150

 They don't know I only stand up for Kal Penn and goats.

This is true.

Posted by: Michelle Obama's Whale Eye at April 20, 2011 10:52 AM (0oUd+)

151 People lie.  If someone calls me to ask who I'm voting for I'm not going to tell them.  If they push, I'm going to out and out lie.  In the exit polls I always lie, always and usually say I voted for some little known person on some little known party line.

So, a lot of people are going along with BO, they actually think obamcare is important and was way overdue.  But, seeing the polls, they are smart enough to keep their mouths shut.  They aren't going to say "I'm voting for him again, no matter what" cause some in the group might challenge them.  And, after all, it's just you in the booth alone.  Also, it's been my experience with the obamabots that they feel it is their duty to lie to the pollsters so that the re election will be a total shocker to everyone.  the other concerning thing is the ability to outright cheat.  No one wants to really discuss what happened in the WI Supremes election.  Why not?   If you have a bunch of "the ends justifies the means folks" put in a position where they think they are doing something that is absolutely wrong but for the "good of the country" can anyone guarantee that they won't assist in cheating?

Posted by: curious at April 20, 2011 10:52 AM (k1rwm)

152 I have an MBA, am a woman, am single and own several cats.  I can see NO circumstance under which I'd vote for Obama.  I'm also a boomer.  Don't paint us all with the same broad brush, please. You forgot Glee fan.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 20, 2011 10:52 AM (Y0wFY)

153 "white educated women"

The Mandingo Effect

Posted by: cherry ð

 

And what they got was the mandoofus.

Posted by: This one's for the Ladies at April 20, 2011 10:52 AM (6rX0K)

154 144 I have an MBA, am a woman, am single and own several cats.  I can see NO circumstance under which I'd vote for Obama.  I'm also a boomer.  Don't paint us all with the same broad brush, please.

Posted by: rabidfox

Photo of the broad brush, please...

Posted by: TexasJew at April 20, 2011 10:53 AM (gdGPK)

155
several cats?

Posted by: Soothsayer 6 of 8 at April 20, 2011 10:53 AM (uFokq)

156 I have an MBA, am a woman, am single and own several cats.  I can see NO circumstance under which I'd vote for Obama.  I'm also a boomer.  Don't paint us all with the same broad brush, please.


You forgot Glee fan.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff

 

If you really cared you'd just know that without my having to say it!

Posted by: This one's for the Ladies at April 20, 2011 10:53 AM (6rX0K)

157 Vic - Steele is gone, we won't be leaving our GOTV machine at the stripper bar this time.

Steele may be gone but his legacy lives on. From what I can see the base is disillusioned with the Party leadership in general. That converts into no money to the Party. It all gets sent to the individual candidates.

Some had good GOTV, some had poor. I heard stories in 2010 of GOP candidates who did not even use people who came and volunteered for GOTV.

Posted by: Vic at April 20, 2011 10:54 AM (M9Ie6)

158

Posted by: Obama's Imaginary Dick

You know, in all seriousness, are we ever going to learn who murdered the Trinity United Church of Christ Choir Director, Mr. Donald Young?

When was the last time anyone even inquired with the Chicago PD as to the current state of the investigation into his murder?

 

Posted by: at April 20, 2011 10:54 AM (F8Mp+)

159 The Mandingo Effect

Posted by: cherry ð

 

And what they got was the mandoofus.

Mandingleberry?

Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord© at April 20, 2011 10:54 AM (GBXon)

160 122 Contrary to my optimistic demeanor I see a new demographic that will vote for Obama and that's the 2008 14 to 17 year olds. I also believe the disinterest blacks may be showing now will do a 180 once the election is near. They will regroup when they perceive Obama's reelection as a referendum on their race.

A month ago, newspapers were ecstatic over the census results that showed a growing Latino population. Ecstatic mainly because it would help Obama's re-election chances.

Posted by: Pyrocles at April 20, 2011 10:54 AM (cv5Iw)

161

No capes!

Posted by: Edna Mole at April 20, 2011 02:38 PM (6rX0K)

+10,000  ;-)

I LOL'ed and almost fell out of my chair!  (BTW, it's Edna Mode - in keeping with the "couture" theme) 

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at April 20, 2011 10:54 AM (mRJq4)

162 So.......If you're white & voted for BHO in 2008 based on his skin color but won't vote for  him in 2012 because he's a muck-up you're a racist?

Posted by: busdrivee at April 20, 2011 10:55 AM (rtdN0)

163

Photo of the broad brush, please..

I thought the 'Broad Brush' was out of style?

Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2011 10:55 AM (0oUd+)

164 Both Ds and Rs oppose IPAB

This is a great campaign issue against Obama and here's why. The Rs should be speaking out against this every day by showing that the Ds are the ones who actually want to ration grandma's care.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 20, 2011 10:55 AM (uVLrI)

165
It's the 'several' that has me scratching me chin.

Either 'several' means 'too many to count' or it means 'so many cats that I'm embarrassed to say.'


Posted by: Soothsayer 6 of 8 at April 20, 2011 10:55 AM (uFokq)

166

3. She had the chutzpah to complain that one of the students who told her to fark off referred to her in a reply by her first name instead of as "professor."

I think that's going to be my response to everything from now on:

"Fuck you and call me Professor!!1!"

Or maybe with a Southern twang: "Well, fuck you and call me Professor!"

Can you think of ANY situation that wouldn't work well in? Me neither.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 20, 2011 10:55 AM (XdlcF)

167 136 After 2 years of Marxism...


The shovel-ready economy

Posted by: cherry ð at April 20, 2011 02:47 PM (+sBB4)

The tombstone is up and everything.

Posted by: buzzion at April 20, 2011 10:55 AM (oVQFe)

168

'Obama's best group in the white electorate remains well-educated women, who tend toward more liberal positions on social issues as well as greater receptivity to government activism'

They loooves them some big-daddy government.

Question--if the 19th amendment had never been ratified, would we be in the position that we are in today?

Posted by: phineas gage at April 20, 2011 10:56 AM (6S4U6)

169

And what they got was the mandoofus.

Mandingleberry?

Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord©

You have won this contest. But I shall return. And then thou shalt be defeated upon the field of Snark.

Posted by: This one's for the Ladies at April 20, 2011 10:56 AM (6rX0K)

170 Never overestimate the ability of the Republican party to destroy their momentum with a huge dud of a candidate.

That is exactly what I was alluding to. Obama will lose big unless the GOP does another one of their generic wimpy RINO candidates because it is their turn.

And since they once again gave the initial primaries to liberal States it looks like they are still barking up that tree.

Posted by: Vic at April 20, 2011 10:56 AM (M9Ie6)

171 164 So.......If you're white & voted for BHO in 2008 based on his skin color but won't vote for  him in 2012 because he's a muck-up you're a racist?

Posted by: busdrivee at April 20, 2011 02:55 PM (rtdN0)

A veritable Grand Kleagle..

Posted by: TexasJew at April 20, 2011 10:56 AM (gdGPK)

172

Gee, one would think that a failed trillion-dollar stimulus, TARP, a takeover of the healthcare system against our will, a takeover of the student loan industry against our will, a takeover of Wall Street against our will, a takeover of GM and Chrysler against our better judgement and will, Cash 4 Clunkers that caused perfectly good vehicles to be destroyed for no reason and that caused used car prices to go through the roof, $4 to $5 dollar a gallon gas, food prices rising so high that coffee and chocolate are becoming a luxury, record numbers of Americans in poverty, unemployed or underemployed and/or on food stamps for the first time in their lives...

*inhales*

...might finally be catching up with Obama, wouldn't one?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 20, 2011 10:56 AM (d0Tfm)

173 I didn't have a broad brush in mind. More like a little Hitler 'stache.

Posted by: Dick Brisket at April 20, 2011 10:56 AM (Y0wFY)

174 Kal Penn gets me all puffed up!

Posted by: Barky's Love Mushroom at April 20, 2011 10:56 AM (yQWNf)

175 165

Photo of the broad brush, please..

I thought the 'Broad Brush' was out of style?

Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2011 02:55 PM (0oUd+)

I like a good rug.

Posted by: TexasJew at April 20, 2011 10:57 AM (gdGPK)

176 You guys like the new AoSHQ? 

We're paying Ace by the word now, get use to it.

Posted by: AOL Board at April 20, 2011 10:59 AM (JpFM9)

177 So.......If you're white & voted for BHO in 2008 based on his skin color but won't vote for  him in 2012 because he's a muck-up you're a racist?

Posted by: busdrivee at April 20, 2011 02:55 PM (rtdN0)

You're presumed racist because you are white. 

Posted by: MFM at April 20, 2011 10:59 AM (sOtz/)

178

I like a good rug.

 

It can really tie a room together.

Posted by: Walter Sobchek at April 20, 2011 10:59 AM (0oUd+)

179

Or maybe with a Southern twang: "Well, fuck you and call me Professor!"

If you do that, you need a "Bless your heart" thrown in at the beginning or end.

Posted by: buzzion at April 20, 2011 10:59 AM (oVQFe)

180 As  far as the dynamic of the 2012 Presidential election I think people are wrong. Incumbents don't lose close elections. Incumbents get tossed out mostly. If Obama is reelected it will be by a close margin no matter who the candidate is but  if he loses he will go down hard.  Unless the economy turns around significantly within 12 months in which case Obama coasts.

Posted by: Rocks at April 20, 2011 11:00 AM (Q1lie)

181 Yes alot of the elderly will not take kindly to threats of cuts to Medicare.  That said, the GOP needs to point out that the President advocated the same thing as well as cuts to Medicaid.  The non-profit I work for gets alot of the women on TANF(welfare) who have to do their hours of community service.  I mentioned this to them and they went ballistic.  Most are not happy with Obama at all.  They expected more and will get or have gotten less.  Irony is so ironic. 

Posted by: Deanna at April 20, 2011 11:00 AM (QhAPY)

182 145 The white women all imagine dumping their beta boyfriends for me.

Don't forget about me.

Posted by: Allen West at April 20, 2011 11:01 AM (EL+OC)

183

The shovel-ready President..

 

Seriously!  Did you all hear this clip?  You can link onto it from CNSdotcom.  He's such a frigging liar.  And I thought the stimulus went to fund such construction projects.  I'm ready to take a shovel to his face.

 

"According to the Republican budget that was passed, for example, we would have to eliminate transportation funding by a third," Obama told a townhall meeting in Annandale, Va., on Tuesday.

"WeÂ’d have to cut transporting funding by a third," said Obama. "You remember when that bridge in Minnesota collapsed with all those people on it? And there was a big hue and cry: How can this happen in America? Well, the National Society of Engineers, theyÂ’ve looked around and they give us a 'D' when it comes to infrastructure. Our roads, our bridges, our sewer systems are all deteriorating.

"We donÂ’t even have a serious high-speed rail infrastructure in this country," Obama continued. "Our broadband lines are slower than places like South Korea. Well, so what, we cut transportation by another third, and whatÂ’s going to happen to America? WeÂ’re just going to have potholes everywhere? WeÂ’re just going to have bridges collapsing everywhere?"

On Aug. 1, 2007, the I-35W bridge in Minneapolis, Minn., collapsed sending 111 vehicles into the Mississippi River and killing 13 people.

Contrary to ObamaÂ’s townhall speech, the bridge did not collapse because of “deteriorating” infrastructure. According to the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), the collapse was due to a design flaw, not to a lack of maintenance.

  

Posted by: runningrn at April 20, 2011 11:01 AM (ihSHD)

184 This educated white woman loathes the Won and never would vote for him, or any Dem. in fact.  All my educated white woman friends are all conservative and counting the days until Nov 2011.   Now the white woman who watch Oprah and Dr. Phil just love them some Obammy.   Those woman speak in a language that is foreign to my ears. 

Posted by: Jayne on the left coast at April 20, 2011 11:01 AM (SOCWj)

185

Or maybe with a Southern twang: "Well, fuck you and call me Professor!"

If you do that, you need a "Bless your heart" thrown in at the beginning or end.

Posted by: buzzion

 

When people ask me why I frequent this site, I now have yet another reason to give them.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 20, 2011 11:01 AM (6rX0K)

186 178 You guys like the new AoSHQ? 

We're paying Ace by the word now, get use to it.

Posted by: AOL Board at April 20, 2011 02:59 PM (JpFM9)

But that last 12-part special post about Donald Trump's latest colonoscopy was a bit much..

Posted by: TexasJew at April 20, 2011 11:01 AM (gdGPK)

187

I like a good rug.

As long as it matches the curtains........

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 20, 2011 11:02 AM (yQWNf)

188 147 "white educated women"

The Mandingo Effect



Sexist and racist and . . . true!

Posted by: Leo Ladenson at April 20, 2011 11:02 AM (mAm+G)

189 I think instead of relying on the hope that previous Obama voters will sit out or switch their vote we should be concentrating on increasing our turn out. I still see too many here talk about sitting out if certain people are or are not the Rep nominee. My campaign slogan is Anyone But Obama.

Posted by: polynikes at April 20, 2011 11:03 AM (7sQ6G)

190 BackwardsBoy: "Gee, one would think..."

You lost me at think.

Posted by: 52%-er at April 20, 2011 11:05 AM (Ilc9V)

191 'Where the White Women at!?'

Posted by: Cleavon Little at April 20, 2011 11:06 AM (0oUd+)

192

What we really need for 2012 is for a bunch of Republicans in hard Blue states like NY and California to move to swing states.  Could you get on that for me?  I get to stay here in Florida because my vote counts here, too much in fact.  But you Republicans in places like Vermont aren't doing the rest of us any good.  Hope that isn't too much trouble. 

 

Posted by: Beagle at April 20, 2011 11:07 AM (sOtz/)

193

 And I thought the stimulus went to fund such construction projects.  I'm ready to take a shovel to his face.

I'm old enough to remember when we paid our taxes for stuff like that, instead of for public service union pensions.

Those were the days...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 20, 2011 11:07 AM (d0Tfm)

194 Iowa and NH are blue-blue solid. SC will go for whoever runs the statewide Republican Party (Graham). McCain won by a narrow margin last time but got all the delegates. At least they have changed that but only in the first three. So it is still possible for the Republican candidate to be someone who 70% of the base hates.

Posted by: Vic at April 20, 2011 11:08 AM (M9Ie6)

195 And each state picks its own date, not the RNC.

BS, the Republican leadership meeting set the current dates several months ago.

Posted by: Vic at April 20, 2011 11:09 AM (M9Ie6)

196

Posted by: polynikes at April 20, 2011 03:03 PM (7sQ6G)

100% Agree. I have seen several here who state they will sit their  stupid ass at home if X or Y candidate is the Rep Nom.

To this I say, as a professor (of something or other) FUCK YOU!  Seriously, if Mittens is the Rep Nom you'll just sit home? To those people let me tell you that I have more respect for the average JEF supporter because at least they believe in something, even if it is Bull Shit.

You come on  AofSHQ and bitch non stop about The JEF and the state of the country but if Huck is the Rep Nom you'll just sit on your hands. Again, FUCK YOU!

Posted by: Sgt. Fury at April 20, 2011 11:10 AM (EFot6)

197

When people ask me why I frequent this site, I now have yet another reason to give them.

Why, bless your f-ing heart and call me ma'am.

 

Eh. Not quite the same. Gotta work on it.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 20, 2011 11:11 AM (XdlcF)

198 154 I have an MBA, am a woman, am single and own several cats.  I can see NO circumstance under which I'd vote for Obama.  I'm also a boomer.  Don't paint us all with the same broad brush, please.


You forgot Glee fan.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 20, 2011 02:52 PM (Y0wFY)

And sparkly vampire fan, and Justin Bieber fan, and subscriptions to Tiger Beat and Cougarette.

In her Match.com profile, her "friends" describe her a strong, independent, and sassy.  She has a 327 point checklist of requirements for the man that is perfect for her (emphatically not looking for the perfect man, though).  After all, she is still too pretty to have to "settle" for any other than the perfect soulmate man.  Tired of games, she dismisses players, betas, omegas, and fubos from contacting her.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 20, 2011 11:12 AM (XBM1t)

199 Possibly these well educated white women are not married and may not have a family. Once a woman gets married her priorities shift toward taking care of the family. Obama's policy are anti family and affect the husband's pay check. This is not true in all cases but in most cases. The family definately changes your priorities from when you were only single and worrying about yourself only.

Posted by: LaQuisha Demming at April 20, 2011 11:13 AM (By4wu)

200 Standing at a gas pump watching the pricecounter whirl by by doesn't tell people "vote for Obama" and the ding of the bell as it roll doesn't say "Win the Future!" There's going to a differnt crowd motivated this time around, with differnt motivations, and they won't be able to vote against Bush.  

Posted by: Minuteman at April 20, 2011 11:14 AM (d6wkB)

201 RE: NY Times article. 

Running, you left out the observation that Ann was "a rather hefty woman".  Obviously Barry learned to love big asses early.

It also implies his mother ran around on the second husband.  Where the hell is his step sister and why isn't she living in the WH like the mother in law?

Posted by: Kemp at April 20, 2011 11:15 AM (JpFM9)

202 counting the days until Nov 2011. 

Well, there's your problem right there..

Posted by: wiserbud at April 20, 2011 11:16 AM (3Okgs)

203 93

just because I. exfoliate. this way.

do not think. that makes me. gay.

if Barack needs.to find. a new job.

he can polish. my wilted knob.

BURMA SHAVE

Posted by: Jessie Jackson at April 20, 2011 02:27 PM (0oUd+)

FIFY

Posted by: Minuteman at April 20, 2011 11:16 AM (d6wkB)

204 Sexist and racist and . . . true!

Posted by: Leo Ladenson at April 20, 2011 03:02 PM (mAm+G)

Good thing truth is not a defense to a charge of racism or sexism.   

Posted by: CHRC, EU, and UN at April 20, 2011 11:19 AM (sOtz/)

205 "182 As  far as the dynamic of the 2012 Presidential election I think people are wrong. Incumbents don't lose close elections. Incumbents get tossed out mostly. If Obama is reelected it will be by a close margin no matter who the candidate is but  if he loses he will go down hard.  Unless the economy turns around significantly within 12 months in which case Obama coasts."     I don't think there are enough shovel ready jobs to turn the economy around. Even if they were, it would only turn Mexico's economy around. Shoosh you think American know how to use a shovel?

Posted by: Ginormous at April 20, 2011 11:20 AM (Q5+Og)

206 So Texasjew, how did  the Seder go? 

That Manischewitz  wine can give you a mean hangover I am told.

Posted by: Kemp at April 20, 2011 11:21 AM (JpFM9)

207

Contrary to ObamaÂ’s townhall speech, the bridge did not collapse because of “deteriorating” infrastructure. According to the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), the collapse was due to a design flaw, not to a lack of maintenance.

 Posted by: runningrn at April 20, 2011 03:01 PM (ihSHD)


Drunk Scandis engineers did not plan for Trolls to live under the bridge and  piss on the support rods.

Posted by: TexasJew at April 20, 2011 11:23 AM (gdGPK)

208 what in the hell is up with the broken tag??? and the poetry? I likeee

Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at April 20, 2011 11:25 AM (qlc5u)

209

80 This.  And by all means, don't hold back on the flame worthy topics.  Let's face it: that particular group are among the most pampered, neurotic, sheltered, arrogant, and venal demographic groups to have ever "graced" the planet.  Emphasis on sheltered -- if they had never been, and weren't now, they might not suffer from the other things.

I say this as a well educated white woman with a passing knowledge of my peers...it sucks for the rest of the female gender, but we will be paying for their audacity.  So by all means, flame away; it's perhaps time well educated white women heard the not so flattering truth about themselves.

Did I mention that many of them have some serious and infantile mommy and daddy issues? 

Posted by: unknown joe at April 20, 2011 11:29 AM (5/yRG)

210 212 oops, that was me...not my dick waving (lol) husband (sorry, still laughing about that)

Posted by: unknown jane at April 20, 2011 11:35 AM (5/yRG)

211

I, will not cotton to. no jibba-jabba.

please, just ignore. my ashy, Adder.

your Aloe Vera. it. soothes my. skin.

I, am sorry. that hit, you. on the chin.

 

 

Posted by: Jessie Jackson at April 20, 2011 11:36 AM (0oUd+)

212 200

When people ask me why I frequent this site, I now have yet another reason to give them.

Why, bless your f-ing heart and call me ma'am.

 

Eh. Not quite the same. Gotta work on it.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 20, 2011 03:11 PM (XdlcF)

Well you'd want to go "Well Bless your heart, fuck you and call me Professor"

Posted by: buzzion at April 20, 2011 11:38 AM (oVQFe)

213 Oook-ook-mook, matafacka
I beez keepinz a gat at you cracka
Dey be hatin', propagatin, Taleban obliteratin'
I be squiritin Waaacka-Waacka!

Posted by: Jesse Jackson King, Ph. D. at April 20, 2011 11:40 AM (VLlWA)

214 198 And each state picks its own date, not the RNC.

BS, the Republican leadership meeting set the current dates several months ago.

Correct.  The Republican leadership has also intentionally sandbagged states which try to get a jump on Iowa and New Hampshire in the past.

I specifically remember that the Republican caucuses in Louisiana in 1996 were snubbed by virtually all candidates but Sen. Phil Gramm (R-TX) because Iowa got pissy about it being too close to their caucuses.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 20, 2011 11:40 AM (UvFnc)

215 Posted by: runningrn at April 20, 2011 02:03 PM (ihSHD) Check out Obama playing up his white half. Grandma wasn't a typical old white racist, she was an anchor. And mom wasn't a whore, merely liberated and proud.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 20, 2011 11:41 AM (mHQ7T)

216

I am a well-edumacated white woman who despises The Won with every fiber of my being.

 

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at April 20, 2011 11:44 AM (FnRYN)

217 While I realize the need not to take anything for granted and to get out the vote and push hard for the Repub candidate (whoever it turns out to be) Nov. '12, I don't think Barry has a prayer unless some freaking miracle occurs and the economy suddenly recovers (which it will not) or jobs start suddenly materializing out of thin air (they won't). He has lost way too much independent support from most demographic groups to win, especially from traditionally Democratic strongholds like my state, Michigan. Mark my words, he will lose Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and possibly Minnesota, along with Florida and Ohio, and that's spells certain doom for Barry-O. There's no way he can win without Wisconsin, Florida, Ohio and Michigan - all of them. And he hasn't got a prayer if things continue as they are or get worse, and they likely will get worse.

Posted by: Jason at April 20, 2011 11:48 AM (hzGf8)

218 My wife is just barely dumb enough to marry me, but still a pretty educated white woman, and she can't even stand to listen to Dipshit speak on the radio.

Obama pushed her to vote Republican for the first time and change her registration to R. She is now working on her ACLU academic family to teach them.

It's the communism, not the color.

Posted by: sifty at April 20, 2011 11:49 AM (+cmP9)

219 Heh!  His support amongst his Hollywood Idiots is eroding too.  And yeah, these uneducated dumbtards will still support and vote for him, but it is fun seeing him lose his luster in their vacant eyes.   From Politico:
Actor Matt Damon, who stumped for Obama in Florida in ’08, publicly slammed the president last month, telling Piers Morgan that he believes the president has “misinterpreted his mandate.”

Damon isnÂ’t the only one grumbling. Other celebs who took active roles in ObamaÂ’s 2008 campaign have since knocked his performance as president.

Hip-hop mogul Sean “Diddy” Combs told The Source magazine earlier this year that “I'd rather have a black president that was man enough to say that he was doing something for black people have one term than a president who played the politics game have two terms.”

Barbra Streisand, who crooned her support for Obama in ’08, admitted in December that she was “a little” disappointedin his leadership on the issue of “don’t ask, don’t tell” in the military. (Streisand won’t participate in any of the fundraising events on Thursday due to scheduling conflicts, said a rep.)

Even Black Eyed Peas frontman wil.i.am, the force behind the incredibly popular “Yes We Can” video tribute to Obama, has expressed his frustration. “I don’t want to hope anymore. I don’t think we should hope anymore. We hoped enough. Now we have to do,” the artist said in a January interview with the New York Times.

Of course, just because a few stars are less gung-ho for Obama doesnÂ’t mean the entertainment industry as a whole has soured on him.

Posted by: runningrn at April 20, 2011 11:57 AM (ihSHD)

220

219 Well, it's time to realize that you are a minority...most of your peers are a bunch of spoiled rotten douchebags, desperately clinging to adolescence, and the primary problem is that as long as they get their shoes, clothes, weekends with the "girls" and date nights, gifties, and lap dogs (or trophy kids, which they treat like pets), they don't give a shit about anything else (in fact, they rarely think about much beyond that and texting and facebook)...and they'll vote for whomever flatters their rather overabundant and petty egos (or they won't vote for people they "don't like" -- which is a danger as well for the Republicans).  It isn't a logical, reasonable thing either: it's whomever "they don't like", which could be something as trivial as "speaks funny", "is stupid", etc. by their own estimation or the estimation of their little clique-y poo.

Society, their parents, government, the men in their lives have done a great job of tending to the delicate little flowers -- who have repaid that by becoming a bunch of feckless weeds (and no, they don't change after marriage and kids).

Like I said: sucks for women who aren't that way, but due to them we will all pay (and maybe we deserve it too -- because we put up with those shenanigans ourselves or allowed them to get the upperhand; nobody's innocent)...bill's probably coming due here really soon. 

Posted by: unknown jane at April 20, 2011 12:07 PM (5/yRG)

221 They ever get the vote, GOD HELP US! - Reuben J. Cogburn, United States Marshal

Posted by: sifty at April 20, 2011 12:10 PM (+cmP9)

223 I'm not letting men off the hook for this either -- to a certain extent far too many men rewarded this craptastic behavior in women, and now they are stuck with it.  What was cute, coquettish, and innocent in a 15 - 20 yo. is pretty tiresome, jejeune, and unseemly in a 30 - 40 something...but hey, "stay youthful and fun!  any person can!".

Posted by: unknown jane at April 20, 2011 12:21 PM (5/yRG)

224 Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 20, 2011 04:03 PM (OWjjx)

I don't know how you could have missed this since it was posted at the time of the meeting several times but the leadership does in fact set the dates. The State Parties must then go to their legislatures and get them to vote on those dates.

States that do not conform either lose all of their delegates or half of them, depending on the rules for that election. In 2008 SC lost half of their delegates because they moved their Primary up before the date set by the Party.

Posted by: Vic at April 20, 2011 12:28 PM (M9Ie6)

225

I don't care. Obama is awesome.

Posted by: College-educated Woman at April 20, 2011 02:47 PM (nd0uY)

 

Sad, but so true, I saw it soon after it posted.

 

Posted by: SomeWhereSouthwest at April 20, 2011 12:35 PM (CyPWX)

226 Since then those red States have shifted back. A few States like CO and NV have shifted to blue but they don't have the electoral votes to matter. Obama will lose big unless we have another candidate that causes the base to sit at home. Posted by: Vic at April 20, 2011 01:58 PM (M9Ie6) A billion times yes. I would go further and add states that were once reliably red are moving that way too. Look at the election of 2010 and polling out of New Hampshire. He's lost that one. Maine is flirting with the GOP again too for the first time since 1988.

Posted by: CAC at April 20, 2011 12:46 PM (JEVge)

227 I wish to God that someone would point out to these idiot pollsters that someone having a college degree doesn't necessarily mean that they are "well-educated." I learned more in 8 weeks of Basic Training than I did in the 3 years that it took for me to earn my BS.

Posted by: rmelvin at April 20, 2011 01:00 PM (14Qb5)

228

@20: "The article about the U. of Iowa College Republicans deserves an article of its own due to the amount of lefty chutzpah on display."

The comments on said article reflect a lot of typical GOP "Good lord, we daren't sink to their level and be mean" pants-wetting, too.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at April 20, 2011 01:05 PM (xy9wk)

229

@64 "... will the white working class 52%ers realize they were duped, or will they just double down on what was a bad bet to start with?"

I got money on 'double down'. The Cargo Cult Society that used to be America is pretty much not going to let go of their golden goose boy.

Posted by: chuck in st paul at April 20, 2011 01:14 PM (EhYdw)

230 Yeah, unfortunately for Obama, some of those college voters have graduated, unable to find jobs, and are still living with their parents.  Sucks to be them.

We won't need jobs if we can just find that mountain of cash the ultra rich are hiding from us.

Posted by: Michael Moore Donuts at April 20, 2011 01:23 PM (pdRb1)

231

I liked this part of her "apology" - which I posted in the headlines thread:

"Despite the Republicans’ general disdain for LGBT rights you called your upcoming event “conservative coming out day,” appropriating the language of the LGBT right movement."

Actually, debutantes have been "coming out" long before the gays appropriated that language.  Now they want to claim originality.  LOL.  It's like dealing with muslims.


My wife has a gay uncle who we love dearly.  He told us a while ago that coming out as a gay man was 1000 times easier than coming out as a conservative in the circles he works in.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 20, 2011 01:33 PM (pdRb1)

232 Everyone else is moving away. Way too slowly for me to feel comfortable about it, but it does look like there's movement away.

That preference cascade is gonna look like a freakin' tsunami.

Posted by: Gen. Sir Harry Flashman, VC at April 20, 2011 02:04 PM (rURkL)

233 Hey, Obamuhh, guess who's racist. You, muthafucka, you. And what's up with these ads disguised as comments? I'd love to knock the crap outta THAT guy.

Posted by: Roll Tide Guy at April 20, 2011 06:50 PM (xTUXX)

234

To beat Soros' puppet you need a leader with backbone who isn't afraid to stand up to the legacy media.  I doubt the loser GOP will select someone who breaks the mold and will select another McCain clone.

 

If it does who cares if Obamao wins?  We're all screwed anyway.

Posted by: Molon Lobe at April 20, 2011 07:34 PM (PTpqi)

235

56% of college educated women favorably view Obama.  Well, I submit that these supposedly educated women, in large part, are not matriculating in basic economics at their universities.  So when they vote in elections, their brains faltering in the cold, hard factoring of economic sense, they tend to vote with their tits.  And tits don't know shit about economics.

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