December 02, 2011
— Ace "Science."
The alleged revelation by a female teacher happened during a geography class Tuesday at George W. Miller Elementary School.When the 7-year-olds told her they knew about the North Pole because of its white-bearded inhabitant, she reportedly responded that Santa did not exist and that Christmas presents were bought by their parents.
The alleged incident has touched off a commotion in the small school district. All day Thursday the school and district offices fielded questions about the incident.
And it's going on in London, too.
And the falsity, of course. Obviously Santa exists. NORAD tracks him on Christmas Eve, after all.
The blunder came after the Year 5 pupils were given seasonal worksheets containing various festive classroom exercises.One began by informing the children that 'many small children believe in Father Christmas'.
It then went on to explain that thousands of letters sent by these children to Santa every year are actually answered by the Post Office.
The youngsters were then asked to write a pretend letter from the Post Office to a child explaining why their requests for presents had been refused.
And this is actually the second outburst of what I like to call Santa Denialism in a week:
Last week a primary school teacher was sacked for telling her young class that Santa does not exist.The supply teacher apparently decided the pupils - some as young as nine - were too old to believe in Father Christmas.
The teacher, who has not been named, is believed to have told the class at Boldmere Junior School, in Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands: "All of you are old enough to know there is no Father Christmas or fairies.
If you ask your parents to tell you they will say there is no such thing.
Amanda Piovesana, whose daughter is in Year 5, said: "I am upset because it has taken away a magical part of Christmas for my daughter and a teacher should not have the right to do that. My little girl was very upset."
Some teachers seem to overestimate their exact place in the childrearing chain of command.
And In Chicago... a news-reader proclaims his Santa Denialism on-air as well.
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Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at December 02, 2011 10:39 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 02, 2011 10:40 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Heidi Klum at December 02, 2011 10:41 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: ace at December 02, 2011 10:41 AM (nj1bB)
Posted by: joncelli, who would really like to be 9 at December 02, 2011 10:41 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at December 02, 2011 10:41 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Stu-22 at December 02, 2011 10:42 AM (AiYlm)
Posted by: Heidi Klum at December 02, 2011 10:42 AM (r2PLg)
All of you are old enough to know there is no Father Christmas or fairies
Denying the existence of fairies? Better alert the LBGTQSCOAMF brigade!
Posted by: wooga at December 02, 2011 10:42 AM (vjyZP)
"All of you are old enough to know there is no Father Christmas or fairies."
Oh.... there be fairies.....
Posted by: Richard Simmons at December 02, 2011 10:42 AM (C8hzL)
Posted by: joncelli, who would really like to be 9 at December 02, 2011 10:43 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: shillelagh at December 02, 2011 10:43 AM (hRzu2)
Posted by: Heidi Klum at December 02, 2011 10:43 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: nickless will probably get accidentally banned again soon at December 02, 2011 10:43 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 10:43 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: willow at December 02, 2011 10:43 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: nickless will probably get accidentally banned again soon at December 02, 2011 10:43 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: JoeInMD at December 02, 2011 10:43 AM (Xwgt3)
Posted by: nickless will probably get accidentally banned again soon at December 02, 2011 10:43 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Colonel Jack O'Neill at December 02, 2011 10:43 AM (W8x1p)
Yes. "Allow." Because if they didn't "allow" them to say Merry Christmas, they could have been suspended (because school students don't count as "people" much less "American citizens" anymore).
A more expanded version of my reaction to this news is at my blog.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 02, 2011 10:44 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Max Power at December 02, 2011 10:44 AM (q177U)
Posted by: willow at December 02, 2011 10:44 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Heidi Klum at December 02, 2011 10:45 AM (r2PLg)
And no complaints, either.
Posted by: nickless will probably get accidentally banned again soon at December 02, 2011 10:45 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at December 02, 2011 10:46 AM (gZCJa)
Posted by: misty at December 02, 2011 10:46 AM (TM4Lc)
Posted by: Stu-22 at December 02, 2011 10:47 AM (AiYlm)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at December 02, 2011 10:47 AM (gZCJa)
Posted by: Heidi Klum at December 02, 2011 10:47 AM (r2PLg)
Sorry. You're on the naughty list.
Posted by: Mittens at December 02, 2011 10:48 AM (QKKT0)
Why is it libs as a whole are so stuck on making kids grow up so quickly and destroying their innocent belief in something fun, and pushing them into sex-ed classes by 5 years old- but also insist on perpetuating the perposterous idea of "participation" awards which are if anything more damaging in the long run than believing in the Easter Bunny or Santa?
What's worse? finding out eventually that it's mom and dad stuffing your stocking with toys, or eventually finding out you won't end up with the corner office and 100K a year simply for showing up at work?
Posted by: Kotter at December 02, 2011 10:48 AM (F937F)
Posted by: shillelagh at December 02, 2011 10:48 AM (hRzu2)
Posted by: JohnE. at December 02, 2011 10:49 AM (nRTou)
Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at December 02, 2011 10:49 AM (X4EXc)
Who cares about everything else, the Obama recovery is now in AFTERBURNER mode! Nothing else matters for Obama has saved us ........MMMMM...MMMMM.....MMMM !! I intend to sacrafice my pet Chihuahua tonight to Our God President.........
Posted by: Wall-E at December 02, 2011 10:50 AM (48wze)
The youngsters were then asked to write a pretend letter from the Post Office to a child explaining why their requests for presents had been refused.
Okay, THAT has to be one of the cruelest things to ask a little kid to do. Not only dash their dreams about Santa Claus, but to then put themselves in a cynical enough mindset to actually pretend to dash ANOTHER little kid's dreams about Santa Claus. That is some seriously warped fuckitude.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 02, 2011 10:50 AM (4df7R)
You know what pisses me off? This awful Christmas song.
There's a world outside your window
And it's a world of dread and fear
Where the only water flowing is
The bitter sting of tears
And the Christmas bells that ring there
Are the clanging chimes of doom
Well tonight thank God it's them
Instead of you...
friggin Band-Aid shit
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 02, 2011 10:50 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Jimmah at December 02, 2011 10:50 AM (vj51i)
so were the poor children that still believed insulted and heckled for it?
also, wonderful how the truth to a teacher as this is Important , but they can lie top them all day long about green shit, and poltics.
Posted by: willow at December 02, 2011 10:50 AM (h+qn8)
You've been letting kids look at this site?
Posted by: Janet Napoleontano at December 02, 2011 10:50 AM (W8x1p)
How do you think we got so rich we control the whole world?!!!
Bwhahahahahaha.
Posted by: mpfs at December 02, 2011 10:50 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at December 02, 2011 10:51 AM (qiOph)
Posted by: ace at December 02, 2011 10:51 AM (nj1bB)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 02, 2011 10:52 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Heidi Klum at December 02, 2011 10:52 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Bitchen Meg at December 02, 2011 10:52 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Wall-E at December 02, 2011 10:52 AM (48wze)
Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at December 02, 2011 10:52 AM (6IReR)
Why is it libs as a whole are so stuck on making kids grow up so quickly and destroying their innocent belief in something fun, and pushing them into sex-ed classes by 5 years old- but also insist on perpetuating the perposterous idea of "participation" awards which are if anything more damaging in the long run than believing in the Easter Bunny or Santa?
What's worse? finding out eventually that it's mom and dad stuffing your stocking with toys, or eventually finding out you won't end up with the corner office and 100K a year simply for showing up at work?
Posted by: Kotter at December 02, 2011 02:48 PM (F937F)
The left is following a program of indoctrination: First, destroy their old beliefs; second, insert the new ones. The old belief is God, country, and self-reliance; the new belief is the State, the international institutions, and dependency.
Posted by: joncelli, who would really like to be 9 at December 02, 2011 10:52 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Heidi Klum at December 02, 2011 10:53 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Penfold at December 02, 2011 10:53 AM (1PeEC)
Posted by: ace at December 02, 2011 02:51 PM (nj1bB)
Appreciate it, Ace.
Posted by: All The Five Year-Olds Who Read AoSHQ at December 02, 2011 10:53 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at December 02, 2011 10:53 AM (7hwUm)
Posted by: Mary Kris Mast at December 02, 2011 10:53 AM (LNRLz)
Posted by: Barack H. Claus Osanta at December 02, 2011 10:53 AM (W8x1p)
More likely the teacher will tell them Daddy fucks Daddy..
Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at December 02, 2011 10:54 AM (X4EXc)
Posted by: Heidi Klum at December 02, 2011 10:54 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: mpfs at December 02, 2011 10:54 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Wall-E at December 02, 2011 10:54 AM (48wze)
Seriously. WTF is it with sad Christmas songs? Who wants to be depressed for Christmas.
"Oh, this song is so sweet. It's about a kid whose MOM IS DYING!"
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 02, 2011 10:54 AM (8y9MW)
An emaciated and starving polar bear, swimming to the point of near exhaustion in the practically ice-free Arctic Ocean, devoured him, with relish.
Now do you see why man-caused global warming is evil?
Posted by: No Whining at December 02, 2011 10:55 AM (Wqfrr)
ace will give you a free subscription for life if you show us your tits.
Posted by: Typical disgusting moron at December 02, 2011 10:55 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: palerider at December 02, 2011 10:55 AM (dkExz)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..(oZfic) is cat piss at December 02, 2011 10:55 AM (SH3gZ)
Posted by: ace at December 02, 2011 10:55 AM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Racist, Right-Wing Terrorist in Midwest...Or Tea Party Member for Short at December 02, 2011 10:55 AM (fOPv7)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 02, 2011 10:55 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: shillelagh at December 02, 2011 10:55 AM (hRzu2)
Four gross of Huggies
Three bags of groceries
Two tanks of gas
and a Section 8 apartment in the slums
Posted by: Peggy Joseph at December 02, 2011 10:56 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: JoeInMD at December 02, 2011 10:56 AM (Xwgt3)
Posted by: Heidi Klum at December 02, 2011 10:56 AM (r2PLg)
Distinctions between "Mommy" and "Daddy" are hurtful.
Posted by: San Francisco at December 02, 2011 10:56 AM (W8x1p)
Posted by: Joejm65 at December 02, 2011 10:56 AM (zjkh9)
More smarter than the average blog.....
Posted by: © Sponge at December 02, 2011 10:57 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Penfold at December 02, 2011 10:57 AM (1PeEC)
Or even worse...grandma got run over by a reindeer!
That is some sick shit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 02, 2011 10:57 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at December 02, 2011 10:57 AM (7hwUm)
Yeah, but that one is openly (if darkly) comedic. And has a catchy tune.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 02, 2011 10:58 AM (8y9MW)
Merry Christmas, kids!
Posted by: Soothsayer
Thanks, Bono. Ya midget, Irish fuck.
Posted by: Dang at December 02, 2011 10:58 AM (BbX1b)
That is some sick shit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 02, 2011 02:57 PM (nEUpB)
Nah. It's sick if the reindeer backs up and fucks her corpse.
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at December 02, 2011 10:58 AM (qiOph)
Santa does not actually exist, any more than workable socialism exists. Who is sillier; kids who believe in Santa, or fuctard leftists who believe in socialism?
As an aside, the world would be a hell of a lot better off if Santa existed, and the goddam, motherfucking, braindead, fuckstick, cocksucking , shit eating socialists were all slow roasting in Hell.
/jus sayin'
Posted by: maddogg at December 02, 2011 10:59 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: ejo at December 02, 2011 10:59 AM (Vr2NM)
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 10:59 AM (YdQQY)
Don't ask me how I know it's too traumatizing to explain.
You might want to put some ice on that.
Posted by: William Jefferson Claus at December 02, 2011 10:59 AM (W8x1p)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 02, 2011 10:59 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Wall-E at December 02, 2011 11:00 AM (48wze)
Posted by: Racist, Right-Wing Terrorist in Midwest...Or Tea Party Member for Short at December 02, 2011 02:55 PM (fOPv7)
In all seriousness, that may not be Santa. It sounds like you've got a case of Meggie Mac Midnight Snackism in your walls. That shit's hard to get rid of, too. Bug bombs just piss it off.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 02, 2011 11:00 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: © Sponge at December 02, 2011 11:01 AM (UK9cE)
Not for the first time, I'm glad I've finally learned to be careful about drinking while reading the blog.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 02, 2011 11:01 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Kentucky Second Grade Truth Teller at December 02, 2011 11:01 AM (jucos)
Seth Lipskey founder of the New York Sun newspaper and a Jew likes to write very favorable editorials in his paper and on the Wall Street Journal editorial page about Ron Paul. Better yet, Seth Lipskey likes to editorialize in the New York Sun how Ron Paul won the debate again.
http://tinyurl.com/7x7jo9e
Ace, not only are you a fat slob punk, you're a loser and a lightweight.
Posted by: William R at December 02, 2011 11:01 AM (1vSY/)
Who cares about everything else, the Obama recovery is now in AFTERBURNER mode! Nothing else matters for Obama has saved us ........MMMMM...MMMMM.....MMMM !! I intend to sacrafice my pet Chihuahua tonight to Our God President.........
Posted by: Wall-E at December 02, 2011 02:50 PM (48wze)
A young acquaintance informed us via facebook that he was one of only four temporary workers to be retained to work the remainder of the holiday season out of twenty temps that were hired to handle last weekend's sales outburst.
Oh, yeah, December's numbers are going up...
Posted by: No Whining at December 02, 2011 11:01 AM (Wqfrr)
It's a breakdown of personal responsibility. All knowledge comes from the government.
It's really quite annoying, and we need to be more active in shutting this down. Schools need to focus on teaching hard disciplines and skills, and parents need to be expected to deal with much of the rest of it. There should be measures made to educate kids whose parents fail, but this should be seen as shameful. If your kids learned about penises and vaginas, liberty, or religion from some loser in a public school, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Posted by: Dustin at December 02, 2011 11:02 AM (rQ/Ue)
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 02:59 PM (YdQQY)
They'll claim it's imagery is too violent. Because they are stupid.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 02, 2011 11:02 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Wall-E at December 02, 2011 11:02 AM (48wze)
Try telling that to the young boys at the Penn State Christmas Extravaganza.
Posted by: Fritz at December 02, 2011 11:02 AM (FabC8)
Don't ask me how I know it's too traumatizing to explain.
Posted by: mpfs at December 02, 2011 02:58 PM (iYbLN)
Was it a bad touch? Use the doll if you have to.
Posted by: joncelli, who would really like to be 9 at December 02, 2011 11:02 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Confused Climate Scientologists at December 02, 2011 11:02 AM (IsLZ7)
Posted by: Michael at December 02, 2011 11:02 AM (0bth9)
Posted by: Kentucky Second Grade Truth Teller at December 02, 2011 03:01 PM (jucos)
Except for you, Moonbeam. Your mommies had to go through a slightly different procedure.
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at December 02, 2011 11:02 AM (qiOph)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2011 11:03 AM (XE2Oo)
Posted by: Nick at December 02, 2011 11:03 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: William R at December 02, 2011 03:01 PM (1vSY/)
Where's YOUR blog, sizzlechest?
Posted by: © Sponge at December 02, 2011 11:04 AM (UK9cE)
Santa has some reindeer scat for your stocking, William.
Posted by: joncelli, who would really like to be 9 at December 02, 2011 11:04 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 02, 2011 02:52 PM (nEUpB)
Fixed
Posted by: No Whining at December 02, 2011 11:05 AM (Wqfrr)
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at December 02, 2011 02:41 PM (QKKT0)
And the internet can now safely grind to a halt. The end.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 02, 2011 11:05 AM (+i7bT)
Posted by: William R at December 02, 2011 03:01 PM (1vSY/)
The gauntlet has been thrown. Ace, your honor is at stake.
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at December 02, 2011 11:06 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: maddogg at December 02, 2011 11:06 AM (OlN4e)
Ralphie Parker, age 9, in Mrs. Shields' 3rd grade class of the Warren G. Harding School, had this comment on the story:
Oh! Fuuudge!!
Only I didn't say "Fudge." I said THE word, the big one, the queen-mother of dirty words, the "F-dash-dash-dash" word!
"Let's face it, most of us are scoffers. But moments before zero hour, it did not pay to take chances."
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 02, 2011 11:06 AM (4q5tP)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 02, 2011 11:07 AM (+i7bT)
Posted by: Dave at December 02, 2011 11:07 AM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Ken (Yes, That Ken) at December 02, 2011 11:07 AM (W8x1p)
Posted by: William R at December 02, 2011 03:01 PM (1vSY/)
Well which is it? Is Ace a punk fat slob or a fat punk slob? We're all on pins and needles over here.
Oh, and Happy HoliHanaKwanzMas!
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at December 02, 2011 11:08 AM (4136b)
Posted by: Heidi Klum at December 02, 2011 11:08 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Mary Kris Mast at December 02, 2011 11:08 AM (LNRLz)
Posted by: buzzion at December 02, 2011 11:09 AM (jaEXb)
All I want for Christmas is for that son of a bastard John Adams to drop dead.
Best regards and as always, your humble servant.....
T.J. Jefferson
Posted by: Stuff Jefferson Wrote To Santa, Vol 2, Page 15, Letter 125 at December 02, 2011 11:09 AM (iYbLN)
You see, they hurt them badly by telling them Santa doesn't exist, and then say, greasily, "your parents lie to you, but I never will."
They break them down, dissolve family trust, and insert indoctrination. They are pure fucking evil.
Posted by: grognard at December 02, 2011 11:10 AM (NS2Mo)
You should wear an aluminum foil suit, not just a tinfoil hat. It's the only way to keep out the rays. It's especially important to wear an athletic supporter made out of brass wire brush.
Posted by: theCork at December 02, 2011 11:10 AM (IsLZ7)
Posted by: derit at December 02, 2011 11:11 AM (FQlFL)
Posted by: Heidi Klum at December 02, 2011 11:11 AM (r2PLg)
Bingo. I feel like saying "he does exist, because I work for him!" He's a distributed system - the cloud, not the mainframe. And he's still be around after I'm gone.
Posted by: Steve H at December 02, 2011 11:11 AM (XHOAD)
I famously said a statement and said that Santa was so morer poorer that it didnt have two nickles with whom to rub together. And which is how he was become known as Saint Nickleless.
Posted by: Meggy Mac Super Brain at December 02, 2011 11:11 AM (C8hzL)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at December 02, 2011 03:05 PM (OWjjx)
Dear Mallamutt,
I only work miracles, son. But William R. needs a head replacement.
Sincerely,
Santa
PS - I have CCed your letter and my reply to the Loyal Order of Cthulu of Miskatonic University, Vermont Chapter. They may be able to help, if they quit hissing and clicking like cockroaches long enough to read it.
Posted by: Santa at December 02, 2011 11:11 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: befuddled at December 02, 2011 11:11 AM (xJU23)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2011 11:12 AM (0yt4x)
The left is following a program of indoctrination: First, destroy their old beliefs; second, insert the new ones. The old belief is God, country, and self-reliance; the new belief is the State, the international institutions, and dependency.
I'll go you one further. I think this is actually a serious issue, and not just one of those afternoon silliness stories.
In my view, this is another example of the teacher, as the representative of the State, assuming the role of the parent. It's a scary thing that so many parents want the schools to assume that role, but even scarier when the teachers decide to co-opt the role on their own.
Where do these people come off deciding how to raise the kids anyway? What the f*ck business is it of theirs?
Posted by: Wodeshed at December 02, 2011 11:12 AM (SgLsM)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2011 11:13 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Marcellus Clausace at December 02, 2011 11:14 AM (W8x1p)
Posted by: Dave at December 02, 2011 11:15 AM (Xm1aB)
@1: "A 9 year old who believes in Santa Claus doesn't live in 2011. C'mon, 9 year olds these days are as innocent as Lagavulin."
9 year old bitches weren't all that innocent in my day, either.
Posted by: Mohammed at December 02, 2011 11:16 AM (jAqTK)
It's been very insidious. First, people were taught they didn't have to be parents (food stamps meant you didn't have to sacrifice to feed your kids, not to mention the damage done to the family bond itself, same for other forms of welfare). Then, when they ceased being parents (too many of them, anyway), the teachers began saying, "We're not their parents!" And so, the Liberals gave them the power to be parents (in too many things).
It's part of the cradle-to-grave, nanny-state, neo-Marxist society.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 02, 2011 11:16 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at December 02, 2011 11:16 AM (X8X8k)
Posted by: Wodeshed at December 02, 2011 03:12 PM (SgLsM)
"Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted."
"The education of all children, from the moment that they can get along without a mother's care, shall be in state institutions at state expense."
"Education is a weapon, whose effect depends on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed."
Posted by: Marx, Lenin and Stalin at December 02, 2011 11:17 AM (+i7bT)
Posted by: cranky-d at December 02, 2011 11:17 AM (H2G0R)
Posted by: The South Pole at December 02, 2011 03:14 PM (UK9cE)
Is Happy Feet cool? Okay, what about The Thing?
Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 02, 2011 11:17 AM (QMtmy)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at December 02, 2011 03:11 PM (qjUnn)
HEY TEACHERS!!!!! Leave those KIDS ALONE!!!!!
We don't need no education........We don't need no thought control!!!!
Posted by: Pink Floyd at December 02, 2011 11:17 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Jerry Sandusky and Roman Polanski, mall Santas at December 02, 2011 11:17 AM (jAqTK)
And Christopher Taylor hates America.
Posted by: Dr Spank at December 02, 2011 11:18 AM (H/kgP)
What the hell is wrong with these people? Can we have a few moments of innocence and fun for second graders? There is plenty of time for them to become humorless OWS leeches later.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 02, 2011 11:18 AM (E6FoU)
Posted by: Kayne West, Asshole at December 02, 2011 11:19 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2011 03:13 PM (r4wIV)
---
There, fixed that for ya. No, really, no need to thank me.
Posted by: Racist, Right-Wing Terrorist in Midwest...Or Tea Party Member for Short at December 02, 2011 11:19 AM (fOPv7)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 02, 2011 11:19 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at December 02, 2011 11:19 AM (kpb4T)
Posted by: Roy at December 02, 2011 11:19 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2011 03:13 PM (r4wIV)
Be sure to tell your wife that dress makes her ass look like a cape buffalo at full, head on charge.
Posted by: maddogg at December 02, 2011 11:19 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Shackleton at December 02, 2011 11:20 AM (W8x1p)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2011 03:13 PM (r4wIV)
Aww, whatsa matter? You didn't get the TurboMan doll action figure you wanted?
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 02, 2011 11:20 AM (4q5tP)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2011 03:13 PM (r4wIV)
Ahem.
Yes, VIRGINIA, there is a Santa Claus. He exists as certainly as love and generosity and devotion exist, and you know that they abound and give to your life its highest beauty and joy. Alas! how dreary would be the world if there were no Santa Claus. It would be as dreary as if there were no VIRGINIAS. There would be no childlike faith then, no poetry, no romance to make tolerable this existence. We should have no enjoyment, except in sense and sight. The eternal light with which childhood fills the world would be extinguished.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 02, 2011 11:20 AM (4df7R)
It's part of the cradle-to-grave, nanny-state, neo-Marxist society.
They're parasites and petty tyrants.
If it's my kid involved, you'd better believe I'd be saying "Who the F*ck do you think you are? Some idiot teacher with a D-minus average from East Buttf*ck State telling my kid how it is? I don't f*cking think so."
I'd have the book thrown at 'em.
Posted by: Wodeshed at December 02, 2011 11:21 AM (SgLsM)
Do you have a job with a high salary and health insurance? I ask because any children you have or will have are going to need a hell of a lot of therapy. Psychiatric therapy and physical therapy. I say physical therapy because if they tell kids at school there is no Santa they will have the shit kicked out of them on the playground everyday.
Posted by: Kayne West, Asshole at December 02, 2011 11:21 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2011 03:13 PM (r4wIV)
I pity you for your childhood. You must be one poor, sad, miserable fucker to not be able to understand that pretending and fantasy are an important part of childhood, imagination, and creativity. And if you can't see past the "lies" to recognize that kids sometimes need some magic in their lives to shelter them, at least a little while, from the bullshit they will have to deal with for the rest of their lives, I hope Baalzebub has a nice warm place for you right next to Jacob Marley.
Posted by: grognard at December 02, 2011 11:21 AM (NS2Mo)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2011 03:13 PM (r4wIV)
You're not invited to many parties, are ya?
Posted by: Tami at December 02, 2011 11:22 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Naqamel at December 02, 2011 11:22 AM (UMwMT)
My 5 year old figured it out on her own. No shizzle. She didn't get it at school because her school is our house. If she ruins it for younger siblings, though, she knows she's getting few if any presents.
That's just the biggest dick move in history.
Posted by: imp at December 02, 2011 11:23 AM (UaxA0)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..(oZfic) is cat piss at December 02, 2011 11:23 AM (SH3gZ)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor's kids at December 02, 2011 11:23 AM (H/kgP)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at December 02, 2011 11:23 AM (ggRof)
Posted by: InSantaty Claus at December 02, 2011 11:24 AM (ENKCw)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2011 03:13 PM (r4wIV)
And another load of reindeer scat for Christopher. MY Rudolph will be busy this year.
Posted by: joncelli, who would really like to be 9 at December 02, 2011 11:24 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Heidi Klum at December 02, 2011 11:24 AM (r2PLg)
You see, they hurt them badly by telling them Santa doesn't exist, and then say, greasily, "your parents lie to you, but I never will.""
YUP YUP YUP
It sounds crazy, yet this is absolutely what was at root here. He wanted to undermine trust from the parent. Evil.
Posted by: Dustin at December 02, 2011 11:24 AM (rQ/Ue)
Posted by: Neville Chamberlain at December 02, 2011 11:24 AM (W8x1p)
Posted by: mpfs
Yep. Turn on one of those blue lights. Everything's glowing like a disco in here. And we thought it was tree sap.
Posted by: An Elf at December 02, 2011 11:24 AM (BbX1b)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..(oZfic) is cat piss at December 02, 2011 11:25 AM (SH3gZ)
Posted by: Roy at December 02, 2011 11:25 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 02, 2011 11:25 AM (Qjh0I)
Posted by: Doc at December 02, 2011 11:26 AM (3eBV2)
FIFY
Posted by: Al Gore at December 02, 2011 11:26 AM (C8hzL)
Hello?!
Posted by: Neville Chamberlain at December 02, 2011 03:24 PM (W8x1p)
Okay, okay. So maybe Czechoslovakia had a few reasons to be pissed. But come on, we're talking about SANTA here. Priorities!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 02, 2011 11:27 AM (4df7R)
"I remember the day I had neighbors that let me know, I was 6 years old, that there was no Santa Claus. They go, 'You know there's not a Santa Claus, right?' And of course covering in front of them I was like, 'Well, yeah. Of course there's not a Santa Claus, guys.' Then I went to my sisters and they said, 'Okay, now you know the painful truth. There is not a Santa Claus.' I was the youngest. They said, 'Don't tell mom and dad because then we may not get gifts anymore. You got to keep pretending that you think there is Santa Claus, or you are not going to get any gifts.' I was like 16 going, 'Dad, when is Santa coming down?' My dad was like 'Look, it's getting weird. You are getting older, you know there's not a Santa. We're going to keep giving gifts, but there is no Santa. You know that, right?" I said, 'You're going to keep giving gifts? Yeah, there is no Santa. I get that. I totally get that." That was my experience with it, but I can't speak for this group of angels that are sitting up here."
Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 02, 2011 11:27 AM (pLTLS)
I can tell my small children straight up, what the grown up world is like, >Liars, thieves, killers and boogy men that will take advantage of their innocence.
because it's the truth, and damn straight they should always hear the truth.
even as small children.
do i need to?
Posted by: willow at December 02, 2011 11:27 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: maddogg at December 02, 2011 11:27 AM (OlN4e)
I have two (soon to be 3) small children. They believe in Santa. Eventually, I will sit down with them and tell them the truth about Santa Claus (http://www.stnicholascenter.org/pages/who-is-st-nicholas/)
Then I will tell them that gifts from "Santa Claus" were meant to be anonymous gifts given to them done in memory of a great Saint, and that they, too, can give gifts to people anonymously as "Santa Claus".
Posted by: Naqamel at December 02, 2011 11:27 AM (UMwMT)
Posted by: Unruly at December 02, 2011 11:27 AM (LL4jH)
Fear me Santa.
Posted by: mpfs at December 02, 2011 11:27 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 02, 2011 03:25 PM (Qjh0I)
I heard on the radio this morning (no actual cite) that gun sales were up 32% over last year for Black Friday.
I'd say some folks are a bit concerned.
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at December 02, 2011 11:27 AM (qiOph)
Posted by: derit at December 02, 2011 11:28 AM (FQlFL)
I like knew to stop believing in Santa when I was 17 !!!
Posted by: Meggie Mac n Cheese at December 02, 2011 11:28 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: grognard at December 02, 2011 11:28 AM (NS2Mo)
Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego in the fiery furnace, too) but I never, ever told the other kids.
These assholes need to be took out and horsewhipped through the streets.
Posted by: MissTammy at December 02, 2011 11:28 AM (SsG4J)
I can tell my small children straight up, what the grown up world is like, >Liars, thieves, killers and boogy men that will take advantage of their innocence.
And that's just the trolls on this site.
Posted by: Roy at December 02, 2011 11:28 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2011 11:28 AM (XE2Oo)
I sometimes volunteer as a classroom assistant for 6th and 7th graders at the middle school down the street from my college. Every year around this time we have a discussion about Santa, and I'm always heartened that there is a significant majority of kids who might say they don't believe in him, but are looking for reasons to keep believing.
I tell them what I tell my kids, too, who are 7 and 9: We believe in God, even though science can't show us where He lives and even though we can't see Him or call Him on the telephone. But some people don't. Likewise, some people will and won't believe in Santa. It's ok to believe or not believe; Santa loves you either way.
Posted by: Truman North at December 02, 2011 11:28 AM (I2LwF)
The science was settled back in 1947:
Fred Gailey: Your Honor, every one of these letters is addressed to Santa Claus. The Post Office has delivered them. Therefore the Post Office Department, a branch of the Federal Governent, recognizes this man Kris Kringle to be the one and only Santa Claus.
Judge Henry X. Harper: Uh, since the United States Government declares this man to be Santa Claus, this court will not dispute it. Case dismissed.
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 02, 2011 11:28 AM (4q5tP)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 02, 2011 03:25 PM (Qjh0I)
Heard that on Beck's radio broadcast this morning.
Requests eclipsed record set in November 2008.
Some douchenozzle news organization attributed it to "women's growing interest in shooting sports"!
Posted by: No Whining at December 02, 2011 11:29 AM (Wqfrr)
Posted by: Christmas With the Taylors at December 02, 2011 11:29 AM (W8x1p)
Liberals suck to the infinitieth degree. The suck all the joy out of life.
Posted by: madamex at December 02, 2011 11:30 AM (5+Fw+)
i actually don't care if christopher decided that he couldn't help with the fantasy, it is His perogative and His children.
still Christopher for those that do christmasy stuff, i'd hope you wouldn't feel the need to say so to Their children.
Posted by: willow at December 02, 2011 11:30 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Christmas With the Taylors
LOL! Hard!
Posted by: Dang at December 02, 2011 11:30 AM (BbX1b)
NINE YEAR OLD kids still believe that Santa actually exists?
Growing up in a small town, rural area, any kid who made the mistake of professing belief in Santa Claus past the age of 5 was mocked relentlessly as an idiot.
Kindergarteners were given a pass (except from the kids that were particular a-holes), but by 1st grade all bets were off.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 02, 2011 11:31 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: derit at December 02, 2011 03:28 PM (FQlFL)
but what to do about the ensuing smoke given off by their charred, dessicated bodies? Greenhouse gases! Poisonous fumes! The disgusting scent of burning hair!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 02, 2011 11:31 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..(oZfic) is cat piss at December 02, 2011 11:31 AM (SH3gZ)
OMG, EoJ, you need to do screenplays or write a book. I am howling over here.
Posted by: MissTammy at December 02, 2011 11:31 AM (SsG4J)
Did she then go on to say, "If I could work my will, every idiot who goes about with 'Merry Christmas' on his lips, should be boiled with his own pudding, and buried with a stake of holly through his heart."?
Posted by: Heorot at December 02, 2011 11:32 AM (Nq/UF)
"Chicken Soup For The Bitter, Miserable Cocksucker Who Will Die Alone, Unloved and Unmourned" by Christopher Taylor.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2011 03:28 PM (XE2Oo)
I should have learned from Allen G's example and NOT been drinking cranberry juice while reading this thread.
My nose hurts now.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 02, 2011 11:32 AM (4df7R)
What do atheists tell their little children when a close relative dies?
Where's mommy?
She's in Heaven worm food.
Posted by: soothsayer at December 02, 2011 11:32 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: t-bird at December 02, 2011 11:32 AM (FcR7P)
Do They Know It's Christmas?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 02, 2011 03:00 PM (nEUpB)
Abhor that song; Change the station every time it comes on.
Posted by: Book Geek at December 02, 2011 11:32 AM (qx3CL)
Posted by: shillelagh at December 02, 2011 11:32 AM (hRzu2)
Do they have the balls to say that? Or do they puss out and say, "Mommy is in a special place"?
Or do they get cute and point to their heart and say, "In here"?
Posted by: soothsayer at December 02, 2011 11:33 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: robtr at December 02, 2011 11:33 AM (MtwBb)
"Chicken Soup For The Bitter, Miserable Cocksucker Who Will Die Alone, Unloved and Unmourned" by Christopher Taylor.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2011 03:28 PM (XE2Oo)
Jeff, you're the shizz. Santa tells me he has all sorts of goodies for you.
Posted by: joncelli, who would really like to be 9 at December 02, 2011 11:34 AM (RD7QR)
Next thing you know, they'll be telling us that "jobs created or saved" is all a lie...
... and there is no dog farm where he'll run and play all day with the other puppies ...
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 02, 2011 11:34 AM (4q5tP)
Yes, I do maintain my list, and It is noted that the Christopher Taylor family are on the Do Not Stop list this year, and I have instructed Rudolph to cross the Taylor family off the GPS list.
Posted by: Santa Claus, Elves, Reindeer Team with Transponder
Just a thought. Make sure you feed all the reindeer Beefaroni so they can take a gigantic dump on his house.
Posted by: mpfs at December 02, 2011 11:34 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: tsj017 at December 02, 2011 11:34 AM (tyPhr)
Indeed, what a dreary world it would be without Santa, and of course he exists, since kids believe in him.
The idea we should assert he doesn't exist betrays a conceit. I mean, you're taking so much joy away for what? So some kid is now truly knowledgeable? But they aren't. The world is a huge mystery... we are all largely stupid and ignorant. You accomplished nothing. Let the kids have a freaking childhood.
Also, I think most kids eventually figure out there is no Santa on their own. Part of growing up is understanding why your parents would pretend there's a Santa... why that shows they love you... and what the limits of reason are when something more important is on the line.
Posted by: Dustin at December 02, 2011 11:35 AM (rQ/Ue)
Yeah, I'm with you on this one. Don't you worry about a child's ability to think past age six or seven on this point?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 02, 2011 11:35 AM (pLTLS)
In any event, when our oldest was in first grade, she spilled the beans and nearly triggered a riot. It was one of the more awkward days of my life.
Posted by: Brown Line at December 02, 2011 11:35 AM (wJ5Bs)
of course you lie to your children, you dopes, you
they're too young to face the harsh realities of life and death
Posted by: soothsayer at December 02, 2011 11:36 AM (sqkOB)
Do They Know It's Christmas?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 02, 2011 03:00 PM (nEUpB)
Abhor that song; Change the station every time it comes on.
Posted by: Book Geek at December 02, 2011 03:32 PM (qx3CL)
Oh lordy, me too. HATE HATE HATE that frigging song. Between that and "Merry Xmas (War is Over)" by John Lennon, I'd be hard pressed to decide which one I loathe more.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 02, 2011 11:36 AM (4df7R)
Swear to God, I want to know how their heads don't rocket off their shoulders right into orbit.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 02, 2011 11:36 AM (E6FoU)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2011 03:28 PM (XE2Oo)
Too funny! You, sir, are an ever-giving source of world class snark!
Posted by: No Whining at December 02, 2011 11:36 AM (Wqfrr)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 02, 2011 03:00 PM (nEUpB)
Abhor that song; Change the station every time it comes on. Posted by: Book Geek
A room full of millionaires trying to make me feel guilty about buying presents for my children. Yeah, I'm just not feeling it.
Posted by: Dang at December 02, 2011 11:36 AM (BbX1b)
No, but considering what he does to Conservative Politicians, would you want to be anywhere near ace if you were Santa? And Santa is magic, it should be easy to avoid a drunk ewok wearing Eau de Hobo.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 02, 2011 11:36 AM (8y9MW)
We'd like to have you over for The Holiday, sir. Just bring your own eggnog and don't ask for any fucking presents; we'll be burning them for heat along with our kids' baby pictures.
Posted by: Christmas With the Taylors at December 02, 2011 11:36 AM (W8x1p)
So, this teacher basically used her classroom to refute Catholic doctrine. Nice. Separation of Church and State and so forth - seems to go one way, no?
Posted by: Alec Leamas at December 02, 2011 11:37 AM (mg08E)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 02, 2011 03:00 PM (nEUpB)
Abhor that song; Change the station every time it comes on.
Posted by: Book Geek at December 02, 2011 03:32 PM
Sing the chorus as "Fuck the World" and you'll feel much better
Posted by: kbdabear at December 02, 2011 11:37 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Santa "Brick Top" Claus at December 02, 2011 11:37 AM (v+QvA)
Posted by: befuddled at December 02, 2011 11:37 AM (xJU23)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 02, 2011 11:37 AM (8y9MW)
I'm pretty sure Chris Taylor is a devout Catholic. So it's not like he's a god-hater or anything like that.
Posted by: soothsayer at December 02, 2011 11:38 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Obama "Mmm, mmm" School For The Daft at December 02, 2011 11:38 AM (FcR7P)
god bless us everyone
Posted by: tiny tim at December 02, 2011 03:37 PM (sqkOB)
Sorry, Tim. The overall value of your life reduced to present value simply doesn't justify the procedure.
Posted by: Dr. Ezekiel Emmanuel at December 02, 2011 11:39 AM (v+QvA)
"The Grown-up Christmas List."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 02, 2011 03:37 PM (8y9MW)
Oh GOD.
*GAG GAG HURL*
You just had to go there. Oh GOD.
*VOMIT*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 02, 2011 11:39 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: USA at December 02, 2011 11:39 AM (6Cjut)
I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day - Harry Belafonte
Posted by: kbdabear at December 02, 2011 11:40 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 02, 2011 11:40 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: tiny tim at December 02, 2011 03:37 PM (sqkOB)
Sorry, Tim. The overall value of your life reduced to present value simply doesn't justify the procedure.
Posted by: Dr. Ezekiel Emmanuel at December 02, 2011 03:39 PM (v+QvA)
But, I was told there'd be no death panels...?
M..Merry Christmas?
Posted by: Tiny Tim at December 02, 2011 11:40 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2011 11:40 AM (vzFJV)
Posted by: Clementine Woolysocks at December 02, 2011 11:40 AM (Qjh0I)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney
Dare I Google it? No. I think not.
Posted by: Dang at December 02, 2011 11:41 AM (BbX1b)
You haven't heard it? Thank God next time you pray, and thank Santa in the letter you send him this year.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 02, 2011 11:42 AM (8y9MW)
I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day - Harry Belafonte
Posted by: kbdabear at December 02, 2011 03:40 PM (Y+DPZ)
It lost me at "Harry Belafonte," which my brain immediately replaced with "Fucking Douchebag."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 02, 2011 11:42 AM (4df7R)
Yeah, I'm with you on this one. Don't you worry about a child's ability to think past age six or seven on this point?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 02, 2011 03:35 PM (pLTLS)
Exactly what is wrong with that?
Posted by: © Sponge at December 02, 2011 11:43 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 02, 2011 11:43 AM (4q5tP)
Posted by: Dang at December 02, 2011 11:43 AM (BbX1b)
"The Grown-up Christmas List."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 02, 2011 03:37 PM
Oh GOD.
*GAG GAG HURL*
You just had to go there. Oh GOD.
*VOMIT*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 02, 2011 03:39 PMThe Christmas Shoes
Posted by: kbdabear at December 02, 2011 11:43 AM (Y+DPZ)
Dear Santa,
I would like just twee things for Christmas. A G.I. Joe, a model airplane, and, and, ...um, and, ...um...
Posted by: 6 yr old Ricky Perry at December 02, 2011 11:44 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Dave at December 02, 2011 11:45 AM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney
Dare I Google it? No. I think not.
Posted by: Dang at December 02, 2011 03:41 PM (BbX1b)
Not unless you like maudlin and sappy.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 02, 2011 11:45 AM (v+QvA)
Posted by: Steve H at December 02, 2011 11:45 AM (XHOAD)
Sheesh.... all this vitriol over Santa.
Wonder how yaall react when I get on topic about some kid.... born in a barn....to a virgin....with a star on top.... that grows up....walks on water....heals the blind...turns water into wine...... BUT pisses off the government..... gets himself nailed to a tree.... THEN.... comes back from the dead... and rises up into the air to join the imaginary man in the sky.
Posted by: Chris Tater Head Tayler at December 02, 2011 11:45 AM (C8hzL)
Another Christmas dirge that just needs to stop existing is Last Christmas by George Michael. And, hey, I seem to remember him being part of Band Aid, too; what does he have against people enjoying Christmas, anyway?
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 02, 2011 11:45 AM (bRdb3)
A quick search shows me that rabbits are lagomorphs, not rodents. And that's one to grow on!
Posted by: Clementine Woolysocks at December 02, 2011 11:46 AM (Qjh0I)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2011 11:46 AM (AF1jB)
You'll be much gheyer just for hearing this one
Posted by: kbdabear at December 02, 2011 11:46 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Libra at December 02, 2011 11:46 AM (kd8U8)
Posted by: Dang at December 02, 2011 03:41 PM (BbX1b)
It will rot your teeth, and possibly your brain. It is the most facile piece of liberal pap in the history of songwriting.*
So here's my lifelong wish,
My grown-up christmas list.
Not for myself,
But for a world in need.
No more lives torn apart,
That wars would never start,
And time would heal all hearts.
And everyone would have a friend,
And right would always win,
And love would never end.
This is my grown-up christmas list.
Oh gag me with a fucking SPOON.
*this may be a slight exaggeration, but not by much
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 02, 2011 11:47 AM (4df7R)
"The Grown-up Christmas List."
I'll see your "Grown Up Christmas List" and raise you with a pair of "Christmas Shoes"
Posted by: MissTammy at December 02, 2011 11:47 AM (SsG4J)
Posted by: maddogg at December 02, 2011 11:47 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Dave at December 02, 2011 03:45 PM (Xm1aB)"
I know, right? The idea is ridiculous. You're the parent. You get to decide how to raise your kids. For the most part, it's going to be obvious it was in their best interest.
Posted by: Dustin at December 02, 2011 11:47 AM (rQ/Ue)
MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS!
OH! OH! OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Posted by: Zombie Sam Kinison at December 02, 2011 03:45 PM (jAqTK)
I have that on VHS tape somewhere. What a fucking rock star he was......
Posted by: © Sponge at December 02, 2011 11:47 AM (UK9cE)
Pish-posh. I know the tooth fairy exists. Just the other night I put a self-extracted tooth under my pillow and that fat flying blimp left me a silver dime!
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 02, 2011 11:47 AM (9hSKh)
@93: "Children are starving in Africa."
MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS!
OH! OH! OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Posted by: Zombie Sam Kinison at December 02, 2011 03:45 PM (jAqTK)
Anybody know a good keyboard cleaner?
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 02, 2011 11:48 AM (4q5tP)
Posted by: Random at December 02, 2011 11:48 AM (YiE0S)
Right- how can you expect to develop critical thinking skills in kids if you're encouraging them to believe in myths like Santa Claus?
I don't know- is this a case of parents who just don't want their kids to grow up? Or are they afraid that if a teacher would dare tell a kid (who's old enough that they should know better) that Santa isn't real, they might also try to convince them there is no God?
It's ridiculous either way. I see no harm in pretending there's a Santa, but for 7, 8 and 9 year olds to still believe it? Are they actively trying to raise a generation of naive fools?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 02, 2011 11:48 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: elizabethe is all in for Perry at December 02, 2011 11:49 AM (hCc/i)
My son, 8yrs old, is still an avid believer. He has asked once or twice and my answer has always been that Santa only exists if you believe in him. He weighed the alternatives and decided he believes. He chooses to have faith and is happy. This is an area a teacher has no business stepping in. Protect their innocence has long as you can because once it is gone, it is gone forever.
Posted by: Polazerus at December 02, 2011 11:50 AM (zji3t)
Posted by: tsj017 at December 02, 2011 03:34 PM (tyPhr) "
Some people are being a little >too< sanctimonious about this.
My parents told me from the beginning there was no Santa. They were very religious, and for them Christmas was 100% about Jesus. They believed Santa took away from that. Contrary to popular belief, focusing on Jesus' birth doesn't make Christmas meaningless. They also told me I shouldn't tell other kids there was no Santa, because it would make them sad.
Santa is in no way necessary for Christmas. The holidays aren't less magical, all it means is you know your parents are the ones getting you the things you want. And you can't tell me different, because I grew up that way and I love Christmas.
I guess the long and short of it is, you keep Christmas in your way and I'll keep it in mine. Just stop with all this 'miserable people' nonsense.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 02, 2011 11:50 AM (FkKjr)
Posted by: Dave at December 02, 2011 11:51 AM (Xm1aB)
Yeah, it's all a conspiracy by Christianists to make everybody except you stupid.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 02, 2011 11:51 AM (+i7bT)
Hey..... dummy..... see 320.
Posted by: Chris Tater Head Tayler at December 02, 2011 11:52 AM (C8hzL)
Posted by: Charter member in the effete corps of impudent snobs at December 02, 2011 11:52 AM (xqpQL)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2011 11:52 AM (PLHIl)
@148: "The gauntlet has been thrown. Ace, your honor is at stake."
That means you have to have sex with him!
Posted by: Will Folks at December 02, 2011 11:53 AM (jAqTK)
Ohfergodssake!!!
That's the most ridiculous thing I've read in a long time.
There are millions of people that have critical thinking skills that also believed in Santa Claus as children....yes, probably even til the age of 9.
Idiot....
Posted by: Tami at December 02, 2011 11:53 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Clementine Woolysocks at December 02, 2011 11:54 AM (Qjh0I)
349 Paul Fucking McCartney wrote the suckiest Christmas song of all time, with that bullshit-dialing-it-in "Simply havi-" FfffUUCK!
EoJ, I hate you so much right now.
I now officially have every shitty Christmas song ever written elbowing each other for dominance in my head.
That's it, I'm going to go listen to the fucking King's College Choir sing "Seven Joys of Mary," and if anyone tries to stop me, I WILL END YOU.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 02, 2011 11:55 AM (4df7R)
Naa. "Christmas Shoes" is bad, I'll grant you (as I said above: a sad Christmas Song? WTF?) but at least it's not stupid Liberal pap.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 02, 2011 11:55 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Dave at December 02, 2011 11:55 AM (Xm1aB)
Simply drilling into the core of your tortured consciousness.
Simply drilling into the core of your tortured consciousness.
Simply drilling into the core of your tortured consciousness.
Simply drilling into the core of your tortured consciousness.
Simply drilling into the core of your tortured consciousness.
Posted by: Paul McCartney at December 02, 2011 11:56 AM (+i7bT)
Here's a great comment from TVTropes on this subject...
"Evidently very few of the tropers who have commented so far actually have any children. Telling blatant, fantastical, ridiculous lies to your kid is one of the greatest things about being a parent. I'll always remember the day my little girl asked me what hay bales were and I told her they were elephant cocoons."
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 02, 2011 11:57 AM (bRdb3)
Because by 7 years old, they shouldn't be idiots incapable of figuring out the physical impossibility of a fat man in a flying sleigh delivering presents to a billion kids in one night.
Don't complain that young adults still act like adolescents if you bring your adolescents up as infants.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 02, 2011 11:57 AM (SY2Kh)
"Evidently very few of the tropers who have commented so far actually have any children. Telling blatant, fantastical, ridiculous lies to your kid is one of the greatest things about being a parent. I'll always remember the day my little girl asked me what hay bales were and I told her they were elephant cocoons."
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 02, 2011 03:57 PM (bRdb3)
Okay, that is awesome. That Troper deserves a medal.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 02, 2011 11:58 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2011 11:58 AM (XE2Oo)
Posted by: jules at December 02, 2011 11:59 AM (P7Hj2)
Posted by: Paul McCartney at December 02, 2011 03:56 PM (+i7bT)
*eye twitches*
Where's alexthechick? We need some stompy boots over here, STAT. Paul McCartney is being a repetitive jackass, AGAIN.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 02, 2011 11:59 AM (4df7R)
Wrong. There are exactly zero kids that have critical thinking skills if by 9 years old they still believe (encouraged no doubt by overprotective parents who actively shield them from reality) that Santa is real.
You can't possess critical thinking skills and still believe that which would obviously be impossible had they had such skills..
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 02, 2011 12:00 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Dave at December 02, 2011 12:00 PM (Xm1aB)
B-E-S-U-R-E-T-O-D-R-I-N-K-Y-O-U-R-O-V-A-L-T-I-N-E
See, right there is proof that the "real" world of adults will soon enough harden your heart and make a cynic out of you.
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 02, 2011 12:01 PM (4q5tP)
@183: "I'm 50 and I still get presents from Santa. The regular one and the Jewish one."
St. Nachus?
I thought all you Hebrew types celebrated Christmas by dancing around the cash register, singing "What a friend we have in Jesus". Was I misinformed? 
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at December 02, 2011 12:02 PM (jAqTK)
Posted by: Schwalbe : The Me-262© at December 02, 2011 12:02 PM (UU0OF)
What does belief in Santa have to do with Christianity? I'm 100% certain that Santa doesn't appear in the Bible.
Like I said- some of you seem to feel threatened that we're suggesting that belief in Santa is in some way analogous to believing in God. They're not.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 02, 2011 12:03 PM (SY2Kh)
You hide it?
And we all thought we knew who wore the pants at Chez Jeff!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 02, 2011 12:04 PM (nEUpB)
Christmas song for the hidebound traditionalist.
If you consider Simon and Garfunkel to be hidebound territory, that is.
Posted by: Wodeshed at December 02, 2011 12:04 PM (SgLsM)
Posted by: Insomniac at December 02, 2011 12:04 PM (v+QvA)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2011 12:05 PM (l9zgN)
>Posted by: Dave at December 02, 2011 03:55 PM (Xm1aB)
I would say it's totally up to the parents regarding what they want to do with their kid. Neither side is evil people.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 02, 2011 12:05 PM (FkKjr)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2011 03:52 PM (PLHIl)
He was great until about 1982, then he turned into an America-hating, hypocritical liberal piece of shit.
I saw him in concert (several times) in 1980 and loved every minute of it.
Now? I wouldn't cross the street to piss on him if he were on fire.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 02, 2011 12:06 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: rocketeer67 at December 02, 2011 12:06 PM (mUWtd)
The Boss of making shitty music and singing like he has fucking end-stage emphysema. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 02, 2011 03:52 PM
Saaannnnaa Clawwzzz izzz cummmin at tennnnn
Posted by: The Boss at December 02, 2011 12:07 PM (Y+DPZ)
Don't complain that young adults still act like adolescents if you bring your adolescents up as infants.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 02, 2011 03:57 PM (SY2Kh)
Or, by seven years old, they could be using their imaginations to hypothesize ways in which a fat man in a flying sleigh COULD deliver presents to a billion kids in one night. And while they're at it, they could be imagining what kind of food makes reindeer fly, and what Santa does in warm climates where there is no snow, and what about places that don't celebrate Christmas? And why do they call him Pere Noel in France, and Father Christmas in Britain? And why does he wear a red suit and live at the North Pole and... and... and...
Part of being a kid is having an imagination that's bigger than reality. Cutting it off before it's had a chance to grow up on its own is just... I'm sorry, I just think that's wrong.
If your child is fifteen and still believes in Santa Claus? Fine. Time to break the news. But if that's the case, I think you have a bigger problem on your hands.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 02, 2011 12:07 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 02, 2011 04:00 PM (SY2Kh)
You must be a blast at parties.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 02, 2011 12:07 PM (+i7bT)
Posted by: derit at December 02, 2011 12:07 PM (FQlFL)
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at December 02, 2011 04:02 PM (jAqTK)
Where do you get this crap?
We celebrate Christmas by making holiday foods out of the blood of Christian babies we kidnap.
The dancing around the cash register comes after the New Year's Day sales.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 02, 2011 12:08 PM (nEUpB)
Children are starving in Africa
When people tell me I drink too much, I remind them that there are sober people in India.
Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at December 02, 2011 12:08 PM (E0EDC)
Posted by: Dave at December 02, 2011 12:08 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Dave at December 02, 2011 12:09 PM (Xm1aB)
We celebrate Christmas by making holiday foods out of the blood of Christian babies we kidnap.
The dancing around the cash register comes after the New Year's Day sales.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 02, 2011 04:08 PM (nEUpB)
You'd better update Wikipedia.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 02, 2011 12:10 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: tiny tim at December 02, 2011 03:37 PM (sqkOB)
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Hey, cripple - nice hat.
Posted by: Adding insult to injury at December 02, 2011 12:12 PM (jAqTK)
I knew my mom wrote the tags, and I held on for two more years. It wasn't that I couldn't think critically, it is that the idea of Santa Claus is extremely powerful, and probably one of the best role models for unconditional kindness, good behavior and responsibility for little children. It can be really hard for a kid to give that up, and it takes a kid being able to fall back on metaphor and abstract thinking in order to smooth that out.
When my parents finally told me, I already knew, and they didn't need to tell me not to spoil it for my little sisters because I understood how important it was.
That happens at different ages for different kids. You may think 9 is too old, but your experiences are only your own, not a universal truth.
If my girls need to believe that St. Nick pops in every year to leave them presents, I sure as hell am not going to take it away from them until they signal that they are damn good and ready to move past it and take the lessons of Santa Claus with them.
Until that day, whenever it is, I'm going to do my best to give their lives a little magic, while their innocence still means something to them.
Posted by: grognard at December 02, 2011 12:12 PM (NS2Mo)
My first memory of Christmas was when I was awakened by my brother and we watched my parents put gifts under the tree. I was FOUR!!!! (My next memory was of trying to kick his kneecap off).
So that kinda scarred me in the opposite direction. I deliberately didn't tell my children anything until they figured it out themselves. My daughters have done the same and my 8 year old granddaughter still believes. For heaven's sake leave them the hell alone. They'll be grownups for a long, long time.
Posted by: Sarah at December 02, 2011 12:12 PM (lT+S8)
You can't possess critical thinking skills and still believe that which would obviously be impossible had they had such skills..
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 02, 2011 04:00 PM (SY2Kh)
If you can't understand how a young child would believe in Santa and still be able to develop critical thinking skills, then you have zero imagination....and you're an ass.
Posted by: Tami at December 02, 2011 12:12 PM (X6akg)
You'd better update Wikipedia.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 02, 2011 04:10 PM (4df7R)
LMAO
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 02, 2011 12:13 PM (nEUpB)
Aren't they so hip and oh so SMART, casually destroying such a very special part of growing up . . . at least for most of us dumb-rednecked-bitter clingers.
I hope Santa leaves them all a lump of coal.
Posted by: MWTexas at December 02, 2011 12:14 PM (N05oL)
The issue is that it's none of their fucking business to butt into the private home life of the children they are paid to teach reading and writing and arithmetic.
Just shut the fuck up and teach my kid how to count. I'll take care of the rest.
I would love to here what they are going to say about the Seder, and how God sent ten plagues and parted the Red Sea, etc.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 02, 2011 12:17 PM (nEUpB)
Why 15 years old? What's the acceptable cutoff? 14? 12? 10?
If you're going to wait till they're 10 years old before breaking it to them that Santa isn't real, how late must you wait before explaining that babies don't really come from a stork? 17? 22?
I was hunting duck and pheasant by 7 years old; deer by 12. Do you also "protect their innocence" by not letting them know where meat comes from? I sure as hell wouldn't trust with a firearm any kid too immature to realize that Santa isn't real.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 02, 2011 12:19 PM (SY2Kh)
@358: Simply drilling into the core of your tortured consciousness.
Posted by: Paul McCartney at December 02, 2011 03:56 PM (+i7bT)
That song is just siiiiix words long.
That song is just six words long.
That song is just siiiiix words long.
That song is just six words long.
Posted by: Weird Al Yankovic mocking two Beatles at once at December 02, 2011 12:19 PM (jAqTK)
I never believed that a person with no discernible background, limited political experience, questionable place of birth and outward disdain for this country COULD BE ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. I believe it now. Anything is possible, even a fat man in red suit flying through the sky on a sleigh pulled by flying fucking reindeer.
Posted by: mpfs at December 02, 2011 12:19 PM (iYbLN)
Aren't they so hip and oh so SMART, casually destroying such a very special part of growing up . . . at least for most of us dumb-rednecked-bitter clingers.
I hope Santa leaves them all a lump of coal reindeer beef-a-roni shits.
FIFM
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 02, 2011 12:20 PM (4q5tP)
It's a damn good thing for the world you're not in charge of jack shit. You don't know my kids, and quite frankly, from what you've written, I'd have you arrested if you even looked at them.
Posted by: grognard at December 02, 2011 12:22 PM (NS2Mo)
Beautiful.
Posted by: Dave at December 02, 2011 04:13 PM (Xm1aB)
Ditto. Very much beautifuler.
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 02, 2011 12:23 PM (4q5tP)
Don't flatter yourself by suggesting anything you've posted "threatens" anyone.
For myself, I'm simply astounded at the gaping absence of any appreciation for the joy of childhood exhibited by your mostly ignorant and pedantic posts.
Who's joy? Yours, or theirs? I suspect the former is more important to you.
Keeping them happy means keeping them ignorant for as long as possible? Is that what passes for parenting today?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 02, 2011 12:23 PM (SY2Kh)
I never did see any red stripes on that thing though
Posted by: proud dum-dum at December 02, 2011 12:24 PM (Y+DPZ)
Yet they want us to take it on blind faith that Obama is The Smartest Man Ever to Walk the Earth
Posted by: kbdabear at December 02, 2011 12:27 PM (Y+DPZ)
I'm fairly certain my 10 year old knows the reality of Santa, but the official stance is that in our house we believe in Santa.
And then Santa brings me awesome gifts like Manolo Blahnik shoes and a beautiful white wool Calvin Klein coat. And a red patent leather handbag...
Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlInSeattle at December 02, 2011 12:27 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Fritz at December 02, 2011 12:29 PM (/ZZCn)
I stopped believing in Santa when I was 8.
Here I am 44, and I'm pretty sure I still be believing hollowpoint is an asshole when I go to my grave.
Posted by: rocketeer67 at December 02, 2011 12:29 PM (mUWtd)
You know what? I'm honestly flabbergasted and dismayed that so many of you think it's perfectly acceptable for a 9 year old kid to still believe in Santa Claus- not just pretend to believe it for fun, but to actually believe him to exist.
That it's remotely controversial to suggest that by 7 years old it's time for kids to move beyond the toddler stage and start getting a grasp of reality and critical thinking skills is baffling to me.
It's no wonder so many of these kids grow up to be adults who believe in ridiculous conspiracy theories, New Age bullshit, psychic powers, and other such nonsense.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 02, 2011 12:29 PM (SY2Kh)
You have no idea.
Posted by: Hollowpoint's Kids, Shoved into Duck Blinds with Shotguns in 20-Degree Temps at Age 2 at December 02, 2011 12:31 PM (Fuvkb)
Posted by: Roy at December 02, 2011 12:34 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: mike at December 02, 2011 12:34 PM (/8MOU)
Posted by: MTF at December 02, 2011 12:35 PM (JOnLy)
You're equating belief in God with belief in Santa Claus and I'm the one being offensive?
As a Christian, allow me to be the first to say "fuck you".
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 02, 2011 12:35 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 02, 2011 04:29 PM (SY2Kh)
Do the Keebler Elves make great cookies or what?
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 02, 2011 12:36 PM (4q5tP)
Posted by: mpfs at December 02, 2011 12:37 PM (iYbLN)
Most kids stop believing in Santa long before age 9. But they have the good sense not to blab and ruin it for their younger siblings and friends. How come teachers can't be as smart and considerate?
Ask Hollowpoint. He should be able to tell you. He's rapidly shoring up his bona fides as the resident expert on dumb and inconsiderate.
Posted by: rocketeer67 at December 02, 2011 12:37 PM (mUWtd)
Do the Keebler Elves make great cookies or what?
Posted by: Count de Monet
Personally, I really dig the tree they live in. Me want.
Posted by: mpfs at December 02, 2011 12:38 PM (iYbLN)
As a Christian, allow me to be the first to say "fuck you".
Ah yes. I see it so clearly now. Hollowpoint...Proud Practicing Christian, and longstanding member of the Fuck You Church of St. FUCK YOU!, exhibiting the 11th Commandment, which is FUCK. YOU.
Posted by: rocketeer67 at December 02, 2011 12:41 PM (mUWtd)
D*mn. I'll have to try harder.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 02, 2011 12:43 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 02, 2011 12:49 PM (/Wbca)
Posted by: Bill Carson at December 02, 2011 12:51 PM (hTiqP)
Posted by: Dave at December 02, 2011 12:51 PM (Xm1aB)
@419: "As a Christian, allow me to be the first to say "fuck you"."
Hmmmm. I could swear I said something about turning the other cheek.
Posted by: Jesus Christ, searching his notes at December 02, 2011 12:53 PM (jAqTK)
Posted by: Dave at December 02, 2011 12:55 PM (Xm1aB)
It's no wonder so many of these kids grow up to be adults who believe in ridiculous conspiracy theories, New Age bullshit, psychic powers, and other such nonsense.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 02, 2011 04:29 PM (SY2Kh)
How many times do people have to say, "Fuck you, you don't know my kids" before you'll understand that your limited perspective isn't a universal truth, like you seem to think it is?
You throw down your edicts on high like you've been enlightened with a great truth that no one else seems to understand, but the pathetic thing is that you know so very little other than your own experiences. They may work for you, but they may not work for people outside your little paradigm.
Try on just a little bit of humility here - you don't have all of the answers. You're just arrogant enough to think you do.
I'll prove it to you. Take any two kids of the same age. They each have different strengths, right? Things they do better than the other kid. They learn in different ways. One may be great with numbers, and the other with abstract thinking.
When my eldest daughter was 4, she could draw objects with vanishing point perspective. Can my younger daughter do that at 4? Nope, but she has incredible musical timing that her older sister still doesn't have.
Do these differences mean one is worse off than the other? No?
Then why would a kid believing in Santa at 9 be any worse than one who stopped at 7? Believing in Santa is not mutually exclusive to the development of critical thinking any more than believing in God is mutually exclusive to critical thinking. They are both expressions of faith, and faith has little to do with reason. People are amazing creatures that can hold onto both faith and reason, and value them separately without discord in their own lives. People can have deep, profound faith in God and yet still be scientists of high regard. Why can't a kid learn basic critical thinking skills while believing in Santa Claus?
Kids are different, and there are no one-size-fits-all answers. You're just arrogant enough to think yours is it.
See, despite the decline of western civilization, there are still millions of parents doing things differently than you who are raising perfectly well-adjusted, responsible children. That may seem ghastly to you, but I think I can speak for them, this one time: honey badger don't give a shit.
Posted by: grognard at December 02, 2011 12:56 PM (NS2Mo)
Posted by: Dave at December 02, 2011 12:58 PM (Xm1aB)
Very well done!
Hollowpoint will now come back with a critically thought out FU.
He's special like that....
Posted by: Tami at December 02, 2011 01:02 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Dave at December 02, 2011 01:03 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2011 03:13 PM (r4wIV)
Chris, you're an intelligent, insightful person, and will one day make a fine adult.
See, lying has its place.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 02, 2011 01:04 PM (/Wbca)
Wow, I really like what you have to say. You write so well.
Thanks. I guess I've been having this argument since I was 6. I had a friend who was a raging atheist and had some of the same arrogant characteristics. Needless to say, we grew apart.
Very well done!
Hollowpoint will now come back with a critically thought out FU.
He's special like that....
Posted by: Tami at December 02, 2011 05:02 PM (X6akg)
Well, if he does, I hope he proves that those few years headstart where he didn't believe in Santa and I still did made him a better critical thinker than me.
Posted by: grognard at December 02, 2011 01:12 PM (NS2Mo)
Posted by: really ... at December 02, 2011 01:12 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2011 03:13 PM (r4wIV)
LOL. That attitude is bordering on insane ... and just plain nasty. I bet you like to call 30 story buildings with flat roofs "chairs" because people can sit on them.
This is why we have the saying, "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing."
Posted by: really .. at December 02, 2011 01:20 PM (X3lox)
You know, there's more evidence of Santa Clause than there is of Global Warming.
And you know, Santa's *other* sleigh, the one which he uses to collect the bad kids he enslaves to work in his toy-mines, is pulled by eight bad-assed polar bears.
(At least, that's what my dad always told me...)
Posted by: Warthog at December 02, 2011 01:23 PM (WDySP)
Posted by: steevy at December 02, 2011 01:30 PM (7WJOC)
OK, put it this way- you've a basic understanding of history, right?
You've read the stories past of great Generals and Kings leading great armies and nations at the ripe old age of their early 20's, correct? How it was normal that adults had families and multiple kids by 19 years old? Ran large enterprises before they were 30?
Compare to today. "Kids" in their mid-20's living at home, by choice, refusing to enter the realm of the responsible, productive adult. The OWS crowd whining that the world owes them because they can't be bothered making their own way. Anyone under the age of 20 being considered more child than adult.
Do you find it so difficult to believe that this is at least in part due to modern parenting, in which it's believed- by some in this very thread- it's best to shield children from the harsh realities of reality, and to maintain their "innocence" as long as humanly possible?
Young kids are treated like toddlers, adolecents are treated like young kids, and young adults are treated like adolescents. Do you think it coincidence that they behave just as they've been brought up? Why intentionally stunt their development, aside from the self indulgent reluctance of parents to see their little babies grow up?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 02, 2011 01:37 PM (SY2Kh)
So only the second example of Kentucky idiocy in a week.
The first being the church story that got blown up all over Yahoo.
Posted by: CAC at December 02, 2011 01:41 PM (tPqaR)
In Mathematics, it's generally true that if someone hasn't started producing brilliant work by the time they're 20, they never will. There have been a few exceptions, but only a very few.
I just wanted to add that in. Carry on.
Posted by: really ... at December 02, 2011 01:43 PM (X3lox)
I'm a pretty conservative guy.
I'm not hater.
I fail to see how telling children the truth is harmful.
If you lie to children about Santa, how can they trust you on the important stuff?
Seems to me the most distressing part of this for those children was the realization they had been deceived by those whom they trusted.
Just a thought.
Posted by: jeffersonian at December 02, 2011 01:47 PM (60WUU)
So only the second example of Kentucky idiocy in a week.
The first being the church story that got blown up all over Yahoo.
Posted by: CAC at December 02, 2011 05:41 PM (tPqaR)
Headline is wrong....it happened in NY.
Posted by: Tami at December 02, 2011 01:48 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Dave at December 02, 2011 01:57 PM (Xm1aB)
I think lying to children is harmful. Where do you draw the line? Tooth fariy? Easter the bunny? Santa?
Is it really harmless? I really don't know, but I think you can teach a child the magic of Christmas without some mythical flying sleigh driver.
Don't get me wrong. I don't want sex-ed taught in schools either. In fact public schools are a terrible place to send a child.
Posted by: jeffersonian at December 02, 2011 02:02 PM (60WUU)
Posted by: jeffersonian at December 02, 2011 02:04 PM (60WUU)
If you say so.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 02, 2011 02:09 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 02, 2011 02:10 PM (bRdb3)
Posted by: snowcrash at December 02, 2011 02:17 PM (w3YD7)
Hollowhead and jefferjackoff need to get together for Christmas this year.
What a "party" that would be.
Ass douchery.
Posted by: Cardinals at December 02, 2011 02:26 PM (HPcQF)
Posted by: madamex at December 02, 2011 03:27 PM (5+Fw+)
That being said I was also told by my folks to keep it to myself.
Posted by: Jack at December 02, 2011 04:15 PM (K4uCj)
Posted by: A Mindful Webworker at December 02, 2011 04:29 PM (AWkD6)
Posted by: Encyclopedia Mythologica epub at December 02, 2011 04:47 PM (rqZsd)
Posted by: The LEGO Ideas Book ePub at December 02, 2011 05:22 PM (Yl6rb)
"why their requests for presents had been refused."
You can always use the Santa "Clause"
I mean how many kids haven't been naughty sometime during the year? ;-)
Posted by: Dan Kauffman at December 02, 2011 05:36 PM (5ZsaL)
Posted by: The Soul Mirror AudioBook at December 02, 2011 05:53 PM (AiJJw)
But bad boys and girls refused to see the truth -- that they had stopped receiving presents because of their own wickedness -- and instead decided that it must be that Santa himself did not exist.
Worse all were the parents that enabled their children's self-deception, claiming to have purchased all the presents that actually came from Santa!
Saddest of all, these bad children told the good children that Santa did not exist, and therefore there was no reason to be good. This led to self-fulfilling prophecy.
So if anyone ever questions how Santa can deliver presents to all the good children, the answer is obvious: There are so very few good children left, that anyone -- let alone a magical elf -- could deliver them presents in a single evening and still make it back to the North Pole by morning.
Posted by: Sweet Lou at December 02, 2011 05:55 PM (WrHFg)
Frankly speaking, the teachers in question and anyone that agrees with this, are douchebags.
It's very much about parental perogative whether or not or what to tell their children about this and when. KNOWING that they're going to disappoint at least half of the kids in that room is enough to tell me that they're jerks.
Don't talk to me about science, this is about literally shoving your belief system down a young child's throat without any care as to how the kid or the families will react.
It's not about the holiday or about the character in question, it's not about science or 'truth'....it's about being mean, plain and simple. Mean because you can, because you wanna be, because it makes you happy to pop someone's balloon of happy.
For what? Personal satisfaction for being a jerk? Great.
Greta had a poll tonight, asking if the person should be fired for doing this. My answer is no. No, don't fire her for telling the kids that there isn't a Santa. Fire her because she's just plain mean.
Santa lives in my home. My littlest one is pretty savvy and probably doesn't believe, but has said nothing. My oldest definitely is too old and told me recently that she didn't cop to it for years because 'I didnt' want to spoil the magic. It was fun'.
And therein lies the point. Santa is fun. Santa is magic. And in a world filled with a lot of crappy things, it's one thing that you can do with your little ones and spread some joy around. And if they enjoy it enough, once they know the real skinny...they will turn into elves themselves.
This is a story I'm going to show my teenager as an illustration that the alternative to being Santa or an elf is to be a GRINCH.
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