1 The preference cascade is here.

2 And this is why the Republicans need to be relentless in their attacks on the JEF. Keep him rocked back on his heels, constantly responding to attacks. He has notoriously thin skin and can't think well on his feet, so he will continue his missteps and gaffes and tone-deaf pontifications.

3 Perry, with 47 states.

4 brb, trying to disprove einstein's theory of insanity

5 Sorry, but Barky McFucktard could have two heads with snakes growing out of his skull, and be seen regularly dining on freshly aborted babies, and the left would still vote for him.

6 #2: can't think well on his feet

I cannot wait for the debates to begin.

7 Posted by: rdbrewer at August 03, 2011 02:38 PM (ILJ5m)

I'm planning a several-day drinking and eating cascade if that preference cascade works out on Tuesday, November 7th, 2012.

8
I'm waiting for the day when Obama just comes out and says what he really thinks: "If it weren't for the people, Congress, and the Constitution, I'd be a great president."

9 Posted by: rdbrewer at August 03, 2011 02:40 PM (ILJ5m)

Don't tease me boy; Ive got wood just from reading that.

10 Even Congress thinks Obama is irrelevant:

"On July 23, they claim, the White House called Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), telling her not to participate on a call with Boehner, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). Pelosi informed Reid, who declined to participate, and the call was canceled, the Republican sources said. (A Pelosi spokesman could not be reached for comment.)

Later that day, the four leaders met with Obama at the White House. At one point, GOP officials said, the Democratic and Republican leaders asked Obama and his aides to leave the room to let them negotiate."

11 More cowbell!

12 Posted by: Soothsayer at August 03, 2011 02:41 PM (sqkOB)

Hah!

That reminds me of an old boss (Keith H., I hope you rot in hell) who once said to me that "this would be a great job if it weren't for the customers."

13 See, I disagree with that idea (keep attacking him). I think it's best to keep quiet, be civil (but still disagree, in a positive not a negative way) and let those preferences cascade. For many, seeing Rs attacking BarryO just gives him sympathy he wouldn't otherwise have. (see: John Street reelection in Philadelphia) People are way, way over him. They really are. Don't give them a reason to feel sorry for him.

14 I wonder if the right approach isn't too flatter former Obama voters like so: "Mr Obama had so much skill, it seemed, and so much promise, we thought... He had such idealism and such good intent. It is such a shame that he had so little practical experience and governing ability..." This statement lets such voters off the hook, see? It disburdens them of having to say "I was wrong" (people hate saying that). It gives them an easier to accept narrative: We were right to vote for Obama, based upon his superficial promise, but now we see his practical abilities are nowhere near his promise, so we are right again to turn him out." I'm not sure of that, but I think that might be a good way to sell it in a debate or at the Rep Natl Convention. Like, more in sadness than in anger. Like, "Gee, we all got snookered..." Again, I don't mean a word of that, but I'm just saying, it gives people an inviting, easy way to vote against Obama without having to blame themselves for their foolishness.

15 Perry, with 47 states.

Posted by: rdbrewer at August 03, 2011 02:40 PM (ILJ5m)

Well, at least I'll win ten states then.

16 I don't think he actually must agree to a debate, and I doubt he will. He might do some terribly skewed "townhall" type thing.

17 15. Absolutely correct. Let them still save face.

18 Can I get a "Fuck Obama!"? God damn America for voting for this mutha. Americas chickens..are coming home....to roost.

19 "...he's cynically throwing red meat to the Bubbas of his far-left base."

I fucking love that line.  It's time we start painting the left with the bubba brush instead of the hipster-intellectual brush.

The left has its roots in the Robin Hood bullshit.  And that is firmly entrenched in the democrat rural inbred politics of envy.

20 I have been saying for at least 6 months Obama will NOT be the nominee for the donkeys in 12. Mark it down. Health reasons, family, whatever plausible excuse they can come up with, they will use. The powers that be are more interested in the march towards socialism than they are propping up the empty pantsuit JEF. It could get ugly though.

21 "ObamaÂ’s 2012 problem is that he dare not run as a liberal but cannot run from his liberalism." http://tinyurl.com/3c4bgjk

22 i normally hate the word "bromides", but it fits Obama perfectly

23 But Obama can't do that. True, Obama could sell out his grandmother as a racist to get him out of a jam, but he's closer in kinship to the far left than to any blood relative.

Obama would steal the pennies off his dead grandmother's eyes if he thought they would give him more money to spend... wait...  whups. 

24 obama is the worst president in american history and he couldn't carry President George W. Bush's jock strap.

25 Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 03, 2011 02:43 PM (SB0V2)

I agree, there can't be a never-ending chorus singing one note, but rather a lovely blending of different attacks, whose goal is to keep him from setting his feet.

And ace, your idea certainly meshes well with what I have suggested. But one thing is certain, we cannot let him off the hook for what he has already done.

26 'the Bubbas of his far left base'.

Heh. It's funny cause it's true.

27 Remember the Obama fan who said "I'm tired of defending you," then got laid off herself? That was the beginning of his end.

28 They will vote against him, though, for failure to produce good results.

And they'll vote for any Dem in 2016, assuming we still have a country, if we see more Bush-era "conservatism" and the continued failure it will necessarily produce.

29 You know what's sad?    Pelosi and Reid have had more success during this administration than JEF.   Why?  Because nobody voted for a legislator-in-chief, Chief.

30

I agree that we don't need to pick on Obama and his bunch. The best option is ridicule and mockery. Call him JEF. Use humor and sarcasm to get the point across, not logic or reason. JEF and the other Alinskyites hate when the rules are turned against them. Hate it. That is why it is so effective.

So just keep laughing at the Joker.

31 Btw ace that "compassion fatigue" thing you mention might be a reason a lot of Repubs voted for Obama or sat home. They got tired of defending Bush, said fuck it I'm taking my ball and going home.

32

They aren't giving up on Obama, they want what he's doing.

But they are so fucking crazy and blindly stupid that they don't see that this is EXACTLY what they wanted. they want to take everything from Rich Daddy. Make him hurt.

He is EXACTLY who they thought he was. But now that he sheds light on their chidlish nonsense, they want to run away and pretend it wasn't them who spilled the milk or broke the glass.

Not me Daddy! Not me!

This is the liberal psychology. Morons. Childish morons.

33 All this screaming for tax hikes are prepping the public for two things (its always a two-fer with the commies)

1. The staked committee is going to deliver tax hikes and he is prepping the public to accuse the House of wanting to shutdown the government when they are the only chance to block it.

2. He is campaigning for the commie base in order to try to save purple districts. Especially those that don't have a lot of unions to turn out the voters.

34 Guys, here we are in August 2011, and the left is already bringin out what they think are the big guns.

Next August oughta be a laff riot.

35 The preference cascade is here.

Makes me think of the "timequakes" in some shitty sci-fi movie I watched, ahem, three or four times.

36 at which point will come the "It's not you, it's me" speech.

With Bambi it'll be the "point and laugh" moment.

37 From Ulsterman's WH "insider" (yeah, yeah I know):

WhatÂ’s done is done on the debt ceiling stuff.  What is coming from all of it though might prove even more interesting to us who want to see Obama made a one-termer.  That would be what is now very serious conversations by some high ranking Democrats, and a few powerful donors, to run a primary challenger against President Obama. This scenario has been spoken of before, but now itÂ’s getting very very serious.  Plouffe, who has all but taken over the presidentÂ’s day-to-day scheduling, which is yet another clear sign that this president has totally given up even pretending that he is not already in 24/7 campaign mode, is warning ObamaÂ’s inner circle of the harm to the re-election such a challenge would inflict.  Apparently the president himself remains working under the belief he is unbeatable.  That no Republican no matter who it is can defeat him. 

38 Translation: We're just not that into you

39

Ace:  the left used the opposite approach on Bush- total character assassination- pretty effectively. 

Maybe the soft approach would be good for the GOP presidential candidate but the party and Veep candidate could keep the heat on Obama personally.

40 The country may be giving up on President Obama (although I don't believe that), but only because the military-industrial complex that one of your heroes warned us about has decided that Obama will end the bloodshed across the globe, and by doing so cut into their obscene profits. No war means no money for GE and General Dynamics and the missile makers and the ship builders. They have decided that blood is more valuable than food! Just think, all of that military money going to feed and clothe the poor, and maybe give them affordable housing so that they don't have to live on the streets, where you kick them aside on the way to your banks.

Obama still appeals to the people because he is one of us. He cares about how we will do in your world. But that world is changing quickly. You will no longer be able to keep those obscene profits that have propped up your lily-white world. The tax system will change. It has to. Soon you will be paying your fair share, and maybe more to make up for the years of your stealing the food from the mouths of the poor! But you wouldn't care about the people who need social security and Medicaid; you are too busy being selfish and uncaring and cruel.

Have you no shame?

41 That reminds me of an old boss (Keith H., I hope you rot in hell) who once said to me that "this would be a great job if it weren't for the customers."

That's a Clerks quote.  And not one of the better ones.

42 One thing is certain, Obama is not going to be the rockstar he was in '08.  The college kids who were drooling over him back then are now setting in their mother's basement frantically trying to find a job. 

It's no longer cool to love Obama.

43 Eat your peas.

44 Ace, I disagree with you on Clinton. I think what Bill Clinton was most interested in was keeping his own nest feathered. Like Huey P. Long or Edwin Edwards, liberalism was just the vehicle Clinton rode to power, because it's the path of least resistance. They were all savvy enough to recognize the true value of the poor and ignorant: that their votes counted just as much as anyone's. And that there were a shitload of them. Clinton would have never truly rocked the boat to push liberalism. That's what DADT and welfare reform were about. His true (psychopathological) brilliance lay in seeing the choices that always acrrued maximum political benefit to himself. If third terms were allowed, he'd still be president. Obama, on the other hand, is a raging narcissist. Everything is personal to him. It's not the socialism per se, it's that there is no difference to him between ideology and his own selfish needs to be seen as the god-king. Clinton was an gifted, yet garden-variety opportunist. Obama is one mentally-ill motherfucker. He WILL burn this fucking country down if it doesn't knuckle under to his demands.

45 It's no longer cool to love Obama.

Huh-uh!

46 I know this is probably just a sock but... "only because the military-industrial complex that one of your heroes warned us about has decided that Obama will end the bloodshed across the globe, and by doing so cut into their obscene profits." Come again? Libya ringing any bells, lady?

47

I'd prefer the Republicans be attacking him, which, aside from Palin, do they really? They need to pick one aspect of Obama and attack him relentlessly on it, make it a part of his character. Just as Democrats did to President Bush senior, with the 'wimp factor'. It was played over and over that it eventually became tied to him.

Keeping along with ace's idea that it shouldn't be something in anger that might generate sympathy, why not take a page from Leno's book. I'm not a regular viewer but I know Leno's been doing jokes about the bad economy for a while now because that's the one area he can jab at Obama and no one can argue or become offended because it's true.

Why not tie to Obama that he's spending your child's money today? Every mention of the debt or the deficit by Republicans should also mention that Obama is stealing from every American child. Joke about that. Have pictures of Obama stealing from kid's piggy banks. Show him lifting a teenager's wallet then buying Organic Arugula knowing he's not paying for it. Show the Obama's laughing it up at the taxpayer's expense. Keep on it. Relentlessly.

48 The problem is not that he doesn't have any thing to say "look what I did for you", he constantly says " look what I am doing to you, you ungrateful little brats".

49 Apparently the president himself remains working under the belief he is unbeatable.  That no Republican no matter who it is can defeat him. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 03, 2011 02:51 PM (UOM4

This might be telling (without diving directly into nefarious conspiracy theories).  Suppose he really can't imagine losing.

Anybody know what date lies between election night and inauguration day in 2012?  Just how might he react?

Again, conspiracy bullshit.  But totally speculation-worthy from my point of view.  Essentially criminalizing the Tea Party's core beliefs might just be seen as particularly useful right about now.

50

The sad thing is that there is plenty of time for Obama to turn the economy around if he wanted. If he pulled back the insane people he's put in charge of regulatory agencies, if actually cut some wasteful spending, allowed offshore drilling, opened ANWR, and gave speeches targeted towards making the general public optimistic rather than the two minutes of Republican hate he currently does with his left base in mind.

I'm not saying we'd be at 5% unemployement, but we'd definately be close to 7% than 10%.

The simple fact though, as Ace pointed out, is that he's so committed to leftist ideology that he won't even consider doing any of the above.

If he loses re-election it will be because his ideology got in the way of what was right.

51 This is exactly what happened with Bush. Just came to a point in 2006-7 that is was like...meh

52 He doesn't seem like a serious president to me, if you know what I mean.

53 Hypocrite.  From lacey's link @47:

“Michelle eats here all the time, but I don’t get out,” Mr. Obama said of his wife, who’s had a burger named after her on the Good Stuff menu.

Hamburgers and fries for me, but not for thee.

I can't wait till those grifters are back in Chicago.

54 A bit like falling out of love. Few really plan on falling out of love with someone. It just happens. There is a period of increasing dissatisfaction, and then one day, without any definitive event to mark the change, one finds he's just no longer fond of someone he'd once loved.

Finally. FINALLY, some peace.

You furry freak.

55 He seems to be trying to position himself as the challenger, running against the incumbent Bush again, and I am enough of a pessimist to think a large segment of the 52% will fall for it.

You guys make the funny, I'll just lurk.  Since the debt ceiling deal my mood has been as foul as smoke from burning cat fur.

56 #15 is a great strategy.  Problem is, seems like Republicans have a little difficulty getting on the same page.

57 Posted by: Ian S. at August 03, 2011 02:55 PM (tqwMN)

This was before "Clerks." Which is actually too bad, because then I could hate him for being a plagiarist as well as an asshole.

58

The problem is not that he doesn't have any thing to say "look what I did for you", he constantly says " look what I am doing to you, you ungrateful little brats".

 

Sniff!  You'd think they'd be thanking me!

59 21 I have been saying for at least 6 months Obama will NOT be the nominee for the donkeys in 12. Mark it down. Health reasons, family, whatever plausible excuse they can come up with, they will use. The powers that be are more interested in the march towards socialism than they are propping up the empty pantsuit JEF. It could get ugly though.

Posted by: Lord Humungus Wasteland Jihadi at August 03, 2011 02:46 PM (Yv6gq)

Yes, in the sense that blacks will stay home on election day if they try that stunt.

60
"They were all savvy enough to recognize the true value of the poor and ignorant: that their votes counted just as much as anyone's."

Remember this...it sums up the feckless punk money-worshipping libtards exactly...

Unreal.

Clinton campaign tries to register a homeless drunk

61

Clinton was a genuine liberal, and would have taken the country down the path of socialism if he could have

I'm not so sure about that. Bill Clinton was willing to slash capital gains tax rates in half--something that Commiecrat Dukakis demonized Bush the Elder for in 1988.

Bill Clinton wasn't all about the Marxism. Bill Clinton was all about--Bill Clinton. A shameless liar and opportunist, yes. A committed Commie ideologue like Obama and other Demunists? Not really.

62

He doesn't seem like a serious president to me, if you know what I mean.

"Hello there, I'm Barak Obama.  I'm not a real President ,but I do play one on TV"

63 People in his own party asked him to leave the debt talks. Ouch!

Seriously, how much more can his already fragile ego take?

I've been saying it for some time now, but I think some crises will be manufactured and he will not be running again next year. He cannot take another six years of people mocking him every.single.day.

64 Malignant narcissist risking losing re-election.

What could possibly go wrong?

65 You know what would suck?   If HRC goes after his job.  We could damned well lose again if she's the nominee.  That'd free-up the unengaged moderates Ace mentions to vote Democrat again. 

66 So Obama needs to put the United States into turnaround.

Gee, I hope we don't elect Romney.  He's experienced with turnaround situations, but he usually deals with them through forced mergers, downsizing and selling off or shuttering part or all of the turnaround company.  Which might be good if it was applied just to the Federal government... but would be bad if it applied to the economy as a whole.

67 Clinton was a genuine liberal I think he was an extremely gifted and ambitious politician who knew the lay of the land (whoops, that's an unfortunate phrase). He 'believed' in whatever the people+MFM believed, and probably felt these were his true beliefs.

68 I'll ignore the rest of your rant.

Obama still appeals to the people because he is one of us. He cares about how we will do in your world.

Posted by: Lucy'sRabbit at August 03, 2011 02:55 PM (LH6ir)

He hates you.  HATES YOU.  He hates your bratty kids, your Wal-mart fashion, your poor choice in cars, the place you live and everything about you.  He loathes and despises the working class.  The only thing he likes is that he can manipulate them.

He is Marie Antoinette.

69

Yes, in the sense that blacks will stay home on election day if they try that stunt.

Exactly, and democrat who primaries Barack Obama will completely destroy their ability to win national elections in the future.

Let's face it, Obama's got the money and backing of the party elite, so any challenger would lose.

The challenger would forever be known as the democrat who tried to primary a black man.

 

The dems can't afford to lose the black vote, especially in states like Pennsylvania, Ohio and Michigan.

 

70 I think that the guy would be a complete laughing stock with zero popularity if the MFM and their entertainment arm(Stewart,SNL etc) ridiculed and mocked him to the extent he deserves.

71 Clinton is a politician. He'll do/say whatever is necessary to get/keep power. Obama is a believer. He is not a true politician. He is a tool. I mean that in a very literal sense. He is only where he is because someone else wanted him there. He won't triangulate against his base, but only because he is a True Believer. He really believes that only taxes can generate revenue, and only spending can create jobs. He'll never compromise, because he can't ever see the other side as anything but evil. How many times did people declare Obamacare dead? Yet he wouldn't give up, and wouldn't compromise. He'll never change his rhetoric, because it isn't rhetoric, it's Truth. He doesn't need a plan B, he just needs to sell plan A. People just aren't getting it.

72 Anybody know what date lies between election night and inauguration day in 2012?  Just how might he react?

Bambi's going to ban Thanksgiving out of spite?

73 Posted by: Bob Saget at August 03, 2011 02:59 PM (F/4zf)

Hey, as long as no more than 96% of the troglodytes fall for him again that is fine with me.

74 Clinton had the Republican congress of '94 that bailed him out.  Why the right does not give them any credit for the Clinton economy and budget surplus of the late 90s is beyond me.

75 Everything I know about Obama, I learned from Alinsky.

76

I'm not sure of that, but I think that might be a good way to sell it in a debate or at the Rep Natl Convention.

Like, more in sadness than in anger. Like, "Gee, we all got snookered..."

Again, I don't mean a word of that, but I'm just saying, it gives people an inviting, easy way to vote against Obama without having to blame themselves for their foolishness.

Posted by: ace at August 03, 2011 02:43 PM (nj1bB)

Either that or to go with one method you or someone else suggested.  Talk about how people were lied to about Obama's qualifications.  It again gets them off the hook of being wrong and puts the blame on others like the Dem leadership and the media.

And its not like you're lying to them about it.  The Dems and Media did lie to them about Obama

77 joncelli - I hadn't considered that.  You're more diabolical than even I.

78 You know what would suck? If HRC goes after his job. Yep. The MFM can't mount a hearty defense of Obama, but they could definitely go all-in for Hillary while defending the country from us terrorists.

79 I have given up on Presadent Obama. I intend on supporting this great man.

80

This is more than just feelings.  Look at these probable instances of the casual Obama voter:

- The voter looking at gas prices when they tank up.

-The voter wanting to get out of a dead end job and can't find another.

- The voter with a small business that's not going anywhere because nobody's buying.

- The voter who needs to sell their house because they want or need to move.

- The voter who looks around and sees the foreclosures in their neighborhood.

- The voter who looks around and sees the many storefronts boarded over in their town.

-The voter that notices that food prices have gone up, along with others.

They don't care about Guantanamo, Supreme Court nominees, the war in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Yemen.  They don't care about Bill Ayers, Nancy Pelosi or Barney Frank.  They don't care about TARP, SEIU, the New Black Panthers or Gun Walker.  They really don't think about the government much at all (which is the way it should be (but isn't)).

These voters will vote according to how things affect them personally and immediately.  The evening news is background noise, and they may believe the MBM if it doesn't affect them personally.  But they won't believe the news if their personal experience is contrary to the negative. 

They'll believe the MBM if they say the economy is bad at 4.5% growth rate and less than 6% unemployment, because things can always be better.  But they are not going to believe .04% growth rate and 9.2%  unemployment is good just because things could be worse. 

It's less risky to disregard good news in favor of bad than the reverse.  And Obama is a big part of the bad news they have to consider in their personal lives.

81 Barry is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

82 are you guys arguing with the Lucy sock again?

83 You know what would suck?   If HRC goes after his job.  We could damned well lose again if she's the nominee.  That'd free-up the unengaged moderates Ace mentions to vote Democrat again. 

Posted by: rdbrewer at August 03, 2011 03:02 PM (ILJ5m)

Hillary would appeal to a lot of disaffected Democrats who never really liked Obama all that much -- but she wouldn't reverse the disgust that Obama's True Believers have for him now, since they want a real Socialist to take up their Progressive standard.

As for independents?  Hillary isn't really all that appealing, especially given the fact that she threw her lot in with Obama and didn't do anything useful in her job at State.  For example, her "reset button" with Russia now has Putin calling America a "parasite."  And her Mideast policy has us bogged down in yet another war while ignoring the mass murder of Syrians and the potential Islamicization of Egypt.

84 Posted by: AmishDude at August 03, 2011 03:03 PM (T0NGe)

You are a cruel and nasty man. And why are you so angry at President Obama? Are you a racist? How could you be if you are Amish? What is wrong with you? He loves you...just as he loves all of the people. He is doing what is best for the country, not just for the wealthy. Can't you part with some of your wealth if you knew that it was for the greater good? And soon you won't have a choice!

Shame on you!

85 "Mr Obama had so much skill, it seemed, and so much promise, we thought... He had such idealism and such good intent. It is such a shame that he had so little practical experience and governing ability..."

This statement lets such voters off the hook, see?

Posted by: ace at August 03, 2011 02:43 PM (nj1bB)

I much prefer "you stupid, ignorant, leftist fuck. Just what the hell were you thinking when Obama said he was going to 'Fundamentally transform the United States', huh?

Unfortunately I have tried that and it doesn't work...so maybe I'll give your idea a try, Ace. If I can stomach it. Which I'm not sure I can.

86 In this case, the GOP could just run Obama BS speeches over and over again to help with the fatigue. Personally, that might be the best advertising there is...just run some of his BS speeches out and let them "speak for themselves." Run some stats underneath as commentary.

87 Man, I hope so.

I think Obama has lost a lot of "moderates."  The question is how energized will the Progressives be to steal the election and will the inroads we made at the state level last time help defeat those attempts?  Our governors, AGs, legislators, and everyone else had better be on their toes. 

88 it gives people an inviting, easy way to vote against Obama without having to blame themselves for their foolishness.

There's something in this. I remember having a conversation with two co-workers in the lead up to the 2008 election. One said 'I don't want to vote for the wrong guy.' And by that he meant whoever lost the election. No, his convictions aren't very deep, he just wants to be on the winning side, and based on some of his business practices his principles are elastic. How many other voters are like that?

89 Posted by: cherry π at August 03, 2011 03:05 PM (OhYCU)

This!

But it is becoming clear that Obama is the puppet, and his handlers are the real acolytes of Alinsky. Obama is just too stupid to be able to be consistent.

90 81 joncelli - I hadn't considered that.  You're more diabolical than even I.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx at August 03, 2011 03:05 PM (qiOph)

BWAhahahahahahahaha! (Seriously, they can have my drumstick when they can pry it out of my cold, dead, gravy-stained fingers.)

91

are you guys arguing with the Lucy sock again?

As the old cassette commerical went, "Is it live--or is it Memorex?" A good sock is indistuingishable from a Commiecrat dupe, save for a moniker.

92 I think its far more likely those fatigued Obama supporters will simply not vote at all, rather than vote for someone they disagree with. It fits the model better for what you're laying out there with the food boycotts, etc. It also fits the mindset better: Its much cooler to be disinterested than to admit you're wrong... 

93 Personally, that might be the best advertising there is...just run some of his BS speeches out and let them "speak for themselves."

This.  He has given us so much ammo it's ridiculous.  Promise after broken promise, flip flop after flip flop, straight out of his own mouth.  Rescue them from the MFM memory hole and remind people who he is.

94 Posted by: Peggy Joseph, Stiffed at the Altar of Obama Love at August 03, 2011 03:09 PM (Lt/Za)

Finally! Someone I can talk to!

95 Obama could did sell out his grandmother as a racist to get him out of a jam, just as a talking point.

FIFY

Are there bonus points for editing the boss?

96 85 Barry is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure

^{_{*wipes tear from eye*}}

That's beautiful and it never gets old. 

97 I had the chance to opt out of SS about 10 years ago. Wish I would have done so.

I'd be living it up right now!

Er, well, yea, that and...yea.

98

Posted by: AmishDude at August 03, 2011 03:03 PM (T0NGe)

Friend, you do know you're arguing with a sock, right?

Lucy's Rabbit is the converse of Charlie Brown's Dildo.

(I swear I'm going to Hell just for typing that). 

99 I don't understand the harsh tone so many of you are taking here. Being President is a really hard job and it's not Obama's fault that he was handed the worst economy in 300 years and that 1/2 of 1/3 of the government is filled with terrorists trying to bring him down. We should all get together civilly and hope for him to succeed like good patriots.

100 Don't we have enough headaches from *actual* trolls?

101 Kratos, you should start sock-trolling as Gaia or something.

102 8
I'm waiting for the day when Obama just comes out and says what he really thinks: "If it weren't for the people, Congress, and the Constitution, I'd be a great president."

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 03, 2011 02:41 PM (sqkOB)

My favorite Bambi quote? 

"You would think they'd be thanking me."

Hey, it's on tape.  Shows off his arrogance and self-righteousness to a T.  I want to see a campaign ad next season that uses it to full advantage.  Put up all the damage he's done and play the quote after each instance.

103 In this case, the GOP could just run Obama BS speeches over and over again to help with the fatigue. That's a great idea. Just run the constant, mind-numbing blah-blah-blah, with no commentary or snark. Radio commercials would be especially effective.

104 Something else about Clinton vs. Obama.

As many faults as he had and as liberal as he was (or at least wanted to be if he'd been allowed to be), I never, ever got the impression from Bill Clinton that he hated the country he had been elected president of. Wrong on lots/most things, yes, but hate the U.S.A. when he was elected? No.

Obama seems, at times, to utterly despise this nation. And for sure he despises large chunks of it - the parts that don't kiss his butt and agree with everything he says. To me, that's the difference between the piece of  marxist-flavored fascist filth currently inhabiting the White House and Clinton. And between Obama and any other president I can think of, for that matter. Even Jimmy Carter just seemed ambivalent about America, but he didn't seem to actually hate it.

105 Sounds like a job for my awesome Presidential hairstyle.

106 Consider ...

John Q Public has an annual income of $50,000 per year, but is currently spending at $83,200 per year, running up a total debt of $315,000. Living in with him is his father who trusted him with $56,100 to invest, but John Q Public has spent it all, so he must repay as his father needs it. Along comes accountant, Mr. T. Party, who tells representatives of John Q Public that this can't go on. After much discussion, yelling screaming and gnashing of teeth, the representatives agree to have John Q Public only spend $80,000 a year.

Mr. T. Party is obviously a "terrorist" for not letting John Q Public spend more ?

Now imagine that the US government is the equivalent of over 40 million John Q Public-s

Makes perfect sense to me.

107 Posted by: Lucy'sRabbit at August 03, 2011 02:55 PM (LH6ir)

Almost spot on.  I'm missing any reference to Zionists, however.  But a really good faux troll rant, nonetheless.

Here's an example of the real deal, complete with "TEA Party terrorist" reference:

Democrats Also Need A Presidential Primary In 2012

108 (sOXQX) Nice hash.

109 "barry is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure"

I don't think Google approves of this formulation.  9 results (0.09 seconds)

110

Yes, in the sense that blacks will stay home on election day if they try that stunt.

Posted by: joncelli at August 03, 2011 03:01 PM (RD7QR)

To some extent, but I believe Obama will be in on the bowing out. 

111

You know what would suck?   If HRC goes after his job.  We could damned well lose again if she's the nominee.  That'd free-up the unengaged moderates Ace mentions to vote Democrat again. 

 

I don't see Obama getting primaried by a viable candidate.  The MFM and the Democrat machine is waaay too invested in him.  Old things will be new again, as they start firing up the "If you don't re-elect Obama, you're a racist" meme. 

112

As many faults as he had and as liberal as he was (or at least wanted to be if he'd been allowed to be), I never, ever got the impression from Bill Clinton that he hated the country he had been elected president of.

Clinton is to Obama as Fellow traveler is to Active traitor.

113 Clinton is actually smart, Barry, not so much.

114 Sure is a lot of revisionist thinking about Clinton out there today. never forget that he and Hillary both worshiped at the tit of Marxism and Alinsky while in college.

And his first two years in office that dynamic duo did everything they could do to further socialism and Marxism in the U.S. Never forget that the changes made to CRA that were the root cause of the current collapse were made during that time.

It was only after the Republican congress was elected that he was reigned in, and even then he fought it tooth and nail. But with the aid of the lying sacks of shit in the MFM he took credit for the stuff congress did and called it strangulation.

No, he wasn't as big a commie as OTrama, but he was still a commie.

115

To some extent, but I believe Obama will be in on the bowing out. 

 

Not going to happen.  The man will take the party down with him.  He won't go quietly into the night unless there is some gigantic payoff or some better gig given to him.  He is a malignant narcissist.  He doesn't care about anyone but himself.  Not even his family.

116 (sOXQX)

Nice hash.

Yeah, it makes every comment look like a letter to my girlfriend.

117 44 They have decided that blood is more valuable than food!     No, you Leftists have decided to starve people by turning food into ethanol, thatÂ’s why your Barry started a war in Libya which was racked by food riots.
44 Obama still appeals to the people because he is one of us.   Sure, thatÂ’s why he eats wagu beef, arugula, and grey poupon.     44 He cares about how we will do in your world.      He doesnÂ’t know shit about my world or your's.
44 Have you no shame?

Lilly-white?  For your information, I self identitfy as rosey you racist.

 

118 #120 Vic: Like I said, the difference between fellow traveler and active communist. The Obamunists simply *cannot* triangulate and co-opt the way the Clintonistas could. Obamao is already doubling down and pouting. No "we understand the era of Big Government is over" speech from him.

119

A snap decision, made mostly in the gut, that one is simply tired of someone, and that he is no longer charming, or compelling, or fashionable.

 

Fads and fancies are the only thing that animates the left. Being au courant is their top metric. Hell, I can even remember when the plight of Israel was their number one foreign policy cause. Go figure.

120
  Strategizing is fine and dandy, what is worrying me more and more is can we--the country--survive the remainder of this person's term? At one point it seemed we could. Looking at the present mess gives me a sick feeling we won't.

  I remember saying that America has a knack for finding the right person for the right time, in any given circumstance, and that even a cursory look back through history would illustrate that.  My continuing faith in my country allows me to hold to that belief--but damn, THIS time I am truly scared.

121

John Q Public has an annual income of $50,000 per year, but is currently spending at $83,200 per year, running up a total debt of $315,000. Living in with him is his father who trusted him with $56,100 to invest, but John Q Public has spent it all, so he must repay as his father needs it. Along comes accountant, Mr. T. Party, who tells representatives of John Q Public that this can't go on. After much discussion, yelling screaming and gnashing of teeth, the representatives agree to have John Q Public only spend $80,000 a year.

 

This!  This is what the stupid Republicans need to do--break it down for even dumber Americans so they can understand what's going on on a macro level by making a comparison on their micro level.   This needs to be an ad!

122 15I wonder if the right approach isn't too flatter former Obama voters like so:

"Mr Obama had so much skill, it seemed, and so much promise, we thought... He had such idealism and such good intent. It is such a shame that he had so little practical experience and governing ability..."

Like, more in sadness than in anger. Like, "Gee, we all got snookered..."
Posted by: ace at August 03, 2011 02:43 PM (nj1bB)  This is the Tom Daschle approach.  It's weaselly, concern trollish, and low risk, but the absolute right approach here.  We shouldn't create sympathy with harsh attacks when we can create contempt with false pity.  Except I would have said "Mr. Obama seemed to have so much skill...".  Put the appearance up front. And phrase the "little practical experience and governing ability" as a part of the Hope that has turned out to be a mirage.  "We were so hopeful that his lack of practical experience and governing ability would be irrelevant in turning the economy around..."  "Sigh. Words fail me.  Things could have been so much better" Make Obama stew in this disappointment soup.

123 Not going to happen.  The man will take the party down with him.

That's what I'm counting on.

124 This statement lets such voters off the hook, see? It disburdens them of having to say "I was wrong" (people hate saying that). It gives them an easier to accept narrative: We were right to vote for Obama, based upon his superficial promise, but now we see his practical abilities are nowhere near his promise, so we are right again to turn him out."


Posted by: ace at August 03, 2011 02:43 PM

Good one. We all know someone, maybe are someone, who got bent over in a deal. All evidence to the contrary, most will defend the deal, defend the con artist who fucked you over, rather than admit even to yourself that you'd been poked up the squeakhole.

How many people marry someone who's a disaster, but will defend the bad spouse at all costs?

125 Obama would steal the pennies off his dead grandmother's eyes

I think I've been spending too much time at the HQ. Pennies is not the word I read first time through that sentence.

126 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 03, 2011 03:04 PM (LH6ir)

Ah, you got me.  Gotta put in the parens.

127 Again, I don't mean a word of that, but I'm just saying, it gives people an inviting, easy way to vote against Obama without having to blame themselves for their foolishness.

Posted by: ace at August 03, 2011 02:43 PM

Use passive aggressive tactics against passive aggressives. You know, it'll probably work

128

Yes, in the sense that blacks will stay home on election day if they try that stunt.

Posted by: joncelli at August 03, 2011 03:01 PM (RD7QR)

Not if Allen West is running for VP.  Remember, it's not the content of your character, it's the color of your skin with Obama voters.

129

(I swear I'm going to Hell just for typing that). 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 03, 2011 03:12 PM (9hSKh)

I thought LR was a genuine troll that CBD frequently socked with the following parentheses.

I don't see how "Rabbit" is the opposite of "Dildo" but there you go.

130 Ace, it's called "leaving them an out."  Great idea, really.  Helps them with their egos.

131 If the people with the money don't want JEF to run... JEF will suddenly have to  .. not seek, and ... will not accept, the nomination of my party for another term as your President.

132 Difference between Bubba and Jugears;

Bubba really was very smart and very astute, unlike the idea without evidence that Jugears is a super genius

How many times in the 90s did we say to ourselves, "that fuckin' weasel Clinton, wish he was on our side"

I don't hear anyone wishing Jugears was a Republican

133

I don't see how "Rabbit" is the opposite of "Dildo" but there you go.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 03, 2011 03:27 PM (T0NGe)

I think it's "Lucy" versus "Charlie Brown" that are the opposites...

134

Not if Allen West is running for VP.  Remember, it's not the content of your character, it's the color of your skin with Obama voters.

As much as we would like to think that will work, it won't. Patriot African Americans are automatically bleached and lose their authentic "Blackness" according to the Colored Commiecrats / African Anti-Americans. See Thomas, Clarence and Cain, Herman.

135 I don't hear anyone wishing Jugears was a Republican

Posted by: kbdabear at August 03, 2011 03:29 PM (Y+DPZ)

I Do

136 How many times in the 90s did we say to ourselves, "that fuckin' weasel Clinton, wish he was on our side"

I still admire Bill in an AoS kind of way for making Arafat cool his heels while he got a BJ from Monica.  Hillary was probably more appalled that he was blowing off a cherished lefty cause than that he was cheating.

137

If the people with the money don't want JEF to run... JEF will suddenly have to  .. not seek, and ... will not accept, the nomination of my party for another term as your President.

I can't see Joe Biden as a 21st Century Hubert Humphrey.

But here is a scary thought--what if RINO like Mitt (Nixon with honesty) wins the nomination, and a Tea Party candidate runs 3rd party in disgust a la 1968?

138 143 How many times in the 90s did we say to ourselves, "that fuckin' weasel Clinton, wish he was on our side"

I still admire Bill in an AoS kind of way for making Arafat cool his heels while he got a BJ from Monica.  Hillary was probably more appalled that he was blowing off a cherished lefty cause than that he was cheating.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 03, 2011 03:31 PM (tqwMN)

I always believed they had an "Open Marriage", that crap from the 60s & 70s where you could have sex with another partner. Guy across the street did that. Wife was smoking....

139

Ace's strategy is the right one--you have to let some of these voters off the hook. And when I talk to people I don't know very well about Toonces, I always tell them I had high hopes for him but won't be supporting him going forward. Let's them know it is okay to throw in the towel.

This:

>>>But Obama is... well, I'm not sure he's wise enough to be cynical.

I disagree with. The reason Toonces is beating on private jets and shit is because his base is really really pissed at him, not because he isn't the single most cynical fuck that has ever darkened the WH doorstep.

A little class warfare goes a long way with the adolescent dipshits that still support  The Boy King.

140 Ace your very last comment I firmly believe, and that is that many many people are ready for someone else, and as soon as that someone else presents itself, when have a simple way to make a side by side comparsion, you will see Obama's numbers crater. Once there is some momentum away from him you will see many of the fence sitters jump on the bandwagon. It's amazing how many people in this country simply want to choose correctly and vote for the winner. One its clear that Obama is likely not to win its all over because he'll lose these types.

141

But here is a scary thought--what if RINO like Mitt (Nixon with honesty) wins the nomination, and a Tea Party candidate runs 3rd party in disgust a la 1968?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 03, 2011 03:33 PM (ujg0T)

OR Axelrod/Soros find a willing idiot to run as a fake tea-party candidate.

142

131  All evidence to the contrary, most will defend the deal, defend the con artist who fucked you over, rather than admit even to yourself that you'd been poked up the squeakhole.

How many people marry someone who's a disaster, but will defend the bad spouse at all costs?

 

We are slowly working up the conjones to address the 10K lb deficit/debt gorilla: entitlement spending. The fixes for SS are to (1) increase the age of retirement, or (2) means test payments; for Medicare to (1) increase premiums, or (2) means test coverage. I think the reforms wrought in WI, OH, and MN towards clipping public servant union wings is a positive sign. We will not be able to tackle the big stuff until the Demnazis are destroyed for a cycle or two. To further improve our country's financial future I would add that we have to wash out all the "fixed" congressional districts and force the hard left to operate in the larger society. The reason they are so detached from reality is they troll for votes in gerimandered districts where only race and class matter (see Detroit). If they had to compete in the larger society we wouldn't have distorted little men like Obama on the national stage. He is the product of political inbreeding. BTW, he makes Kingfish look polished.  

143

OR Axelrod/Soros find a willing idiot to run as a fake tea-party candidate.

That would only happen if somehow a real Tea Party Patriot candidate somehow won the nomination. Axelrod / Soros would not bother against milquetoast Mitt, or against Hispandering fool Perry for that matter.

 

144 He's sinking, and his approval is now a woeful 40 percent -- that's Jimmy Carter territory.

By the time Obie's term is up, he'll wish he had Carter's numbers.

145

@14: "See, I disagree with that idea (keep attacking him). I think it's best to keep quiet, be civil (but still disagree, in a positive not a negative way) and let those preferences cascade.

For many, seeing Rs attacking BarryO just gives him sympathy he wouldn't otherwise have. (see: John Street reelection in Philadelphia)

People are way, way over him. They really are. Don't give them a reason to feel sorry for him."

Guess the GOP leadership reads the blog....  Never, ever, ever attack a Democrat under any circumstances.  It simply isn't done in proper society!

146 >> "Sorry, but Barky McFucktard could have two heads with snakes growing out of his skull, and be seen regularly dining on freshly aborted babies, and the left would still vote for him." I think that would actually pick up some Libertarian votes for him.

147 Ace: I think this is interesting because it strikes me that this is how Obama voters become Obama opponents.

Agreed. What I can't believe is how ubiquitous and pervasive the Obama-failure meme is. And I don't mean to infer that it's incorrect -- it is not -- it has just taken on some neat self-organized and self-propagating characteristics through our collective zeitgeist. Which, given how the MSM can't wait to blow him, is quite amazing to me that it's emerged since, traditionally, the media could control this via filtering the high-bandwidth channel by which media gets into the household (ie. network TV, papers, etc).

The steady drum-beat of such an idea is a death knell for anyone.

The democrats can hope people aren't paying attention, that wonder-boy can orate his way out of this. He can not. Once such concepts become associated, it's amazingly hard to change them.

148 The Dow is about even for today. Looks like Baghdad Ben summoned the Plunge Protection Team helicopters

149 Obama's on the television too much. Since about May 2009. People get sick of someone in their grill all the time. Especially a loser making excuses for losing.

150 156 Obama's on the television too much.

Since about May 2009. People get sick of someone in their grill all the time. Especially a loser making excuses for losing.     But, but, he killed Osama. Remember? And the high speed trains will start rolling anytime now. All is well, don't panic.

151 IMHO, the Republican candidates need to be preparing to beat not just Obama in 2012, but the second-most-likely Democratic candidate: Hilary Clinton.

152 >>A bit like falling out of love. Few really plan on falling out of love with someone. It just happens. There is a period of increasing dissatisfaction, and then one day, without any definitive event to mark the change, one finds he's just no longer fond of someone he'd once loved. You're dumping us, aren't you.

153

158 IMHO, the Republican candidates need to be preparing to beat not just Obama in 2012, but the second-most-likely Democratic candidate: Hilary Clinton.

 

Just remind folks of Hillary's Labia and she will go away. Hell it worked on her husband.

154

But through a less intellectual driver: Simple fatigue. Weariness. A snap decision, made mostly in the gut, that one is simply tired of someone, .......

That's what made me vote against HW in 92.  I was just tired of the guy.  But I knew billyjeff was a sack of shit after about 6 mo. 

 

155 You know what would suck?   If HRC goes after his job.  We could damned well lose again if she's the nominee.  That'd free-up the unengaged moderates Ace mentions to vote Democrat again. 

Posted by: rdbrewer

My bet is still predicated upon continued shitty news for JEF. At some point, the wallets are either going to close for JEF, or the 'word' is given that a replacement is needed. At that point, if JEF won't go, We'll be treated to Holder geting nuked in the press. We'll THEN see The Won resign, like 1968. I agree that there probably won't be a serious primary, at least not by someone to his right. They'll let the moonbats fly, then JEF quits, and someone like Evan Bayh steps in. In that scenario, the jilted JEF lovers would come out to vote, and we have a fight on our hands.

156 Even I could beat Obama next year.  Right??

157 I wonder if some libs might pull the lever for SOTO (someone other than Obama) or just stay home purely because they had so much fun kicking W around, and want to go back to the good ol' days.

158

How about this... every time you see Presidick Pull-ups on TV, you say to the moderates/indepenents in the room ...."Man, this guy is just tiresome. Same shit, different day. Does he every say anything new?"

159 Sad as it may be..  Obama making more speeches might be our best hope in defeating the guy..

From Cracked (of all places): 

Mussolini's prescription to these fatal setbacks was always more propaganda, which by the end was so pathetic that it was said his speeches "actually caused demoralization and division among the Italians listening."

160 He's toast--and he knows it.

He knows that we know he's toast.   Toast in the morning, toast all day long

Our job is to mount a campaign which will not only elect a decently-conservative Republican Prez but also get a decently-conservative majority in both houses of Congress and gain control of many, many state legislatures

It's 1980 2.0, bitches.  Time to crush the Enemy, lamentations of their women, etc

161 It doesn't matter of the people are replused by Obama, the elites adore him.   This is how a socialist people's paradise works.  The public are mere proles.

162 got to create a jay-ohh-bee if you want to be with me!

163 What took the country so long? I gave up on the son of bitch the second I heard of him

164

I don't think that the Bamster really cares if he is re-elected or not. I believe that his objective is to do as much damage to the United States as is humanly possible. He is a disciple of Coward and Piven - "overwhelm the system" and Saul Alinsky - "Rules for Radicals". He meant it when he said we were entering an era of "fundamental transformation" and that he believed in "redistribution of wealth".

If he were a closet Jihadist, what would he be doing different than he already is?

 

165

Plan C is: Go Negative.

This will be the most over the top nasty election in history.

The MSM will be all in.

Obama has a billion dollars to trash any Republican candidate.

166 Forty-thousand Twitter users who unsubscribed to 0 can't be wrong!

167

"Clinton would sell out his own grandmother for political advantage, so he'd certainly run against the liberals in his own party."

I'm not following. Obama would and did sell out his own grandmother AND his own mother for political advantage.

168

Obama will go for Plan D--Demonize the opposition to hold their vote down (easy with the media on your side; you can't win any votes but maybe you can get people disgusted with everyone and stay home), and then turn out your base big-time, and steal the marginal states.

Damn near worked in 2000 and 2004.

169 Wow this is soo helpful I have been trying to figure this out on my own for a long time now. Hopefully making this change will help encourage discussion on my blog.

170 My dad was a builder.  Occasionally, he'd get a buyer with an ego stake in a negotiation.  They'd want to pay "x" and just couldn't comprehend that "x" wasn't going to get it done.  Dad would give them something in consolation, like, say, a cedar-lined master bedroom closet.  "I can't sell it for 'x,' but I can give you a cedar-lined master bedroom closet."  Of course, the cedar lining didn't cost a fraction of the counter offer they had their egos staked upon, but it did give them a way out, a way to save face--if only to themselves.  They needed an excuse to capitulate, and he gave them one.  And if they went away telling themselves they drove a hard bargain--and they did--so much the better.

People need an out.  And sometimes that means giving them a easier way to lie to themselves.

171

Clinton is a politician who is a leftist.

Obama is a leftist who is a politician.

When his leftism became a political liability, Clinton dropped it.  Obama will double down.  They both are believers, but Obama is much more a 'true believer.' 

Clinton could envision the possibility of leftism being wrong (he was used to being on all sides of an issue).  Clinton did not agree with 'the other side' but he understood it. 

Obama cannot and will not consider that his leftist prism is cracked, and he does not understand those who do not look at the world through it.  That is the root cause of his 'disconnectedness' from ordinary Americans.  He knows enough to keep his leftism quiet and present himself as a blank slate or moderate...but he does not and cannot actually understand the way ordinary non-leftists think.  After all, every person he ever respected was a hardcore leftist.  To question whether the leftist prism was the right way to view the world would shatter him.     

172 Thanks for taking the time to line all this out for all of us. This kind of blog post was extremely helpful to me.