Michelle Bachmann: I'm a Teavangelical.

Christ. It's time for her to take her red snuggie and leave the race

You better not underestimate more ace. He really could eat the rich.

Kinda funny...

Reminds me of the Soprano's episode where the old mafia guys tried to extort a Starbucks.

I asked, “Well what is going to happen to those people we can’t reeducate, that are diehard capitalists?” And the reply was that they’d have to be eliminated.

And when I pursued this further, they estimated they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these reeducation centers.

And when I say “eliminate,” I mean “kill.”

I did warn you all.

Posted by: Honey Badger at September 23, 2011 02:39 PM (GvYeG)

Thats the crazy thing about a 50 gun safe. Turns out it doesn't hold 50 guns. I need two.

As for the ammo, 10,000 plus rounds and I can roll my own. Goddammit I love Texas

>>>I did warn you all.

Every passing day we're going further and further down the AS road. It's scary how prophetic that book is.

We've reached the part where the government, looters and moochers are starting to be open about their request for a sanction of the victim. Previously it had remained unspoken and below the surface, but not it's out in the open.

Posted by: kathysaysso at September 23, 2011 02:48 PM (ZtwUX)

You mean the fat slobs that are so tough with old folks and people in wheelchairs? And the gang bangers that fire 100 shots at some rival on a street corner and instead kill some kid asleep in bed 2 blocks over. I'm messing myself.

As a Harvard professor type, Ms. Warren probably has some cool stuff.  I think she should share.

Fat Mike has some lakefront on Torch Lake in Michigan.  I think some people ought to make him share also.

These people are fools thinking they can sow the wind and not reap the whirlwind.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 23, 2011 02:46 PM (ItDg4)

Not true. The mafia would rarely put someone out of business as long as they paid their taxes, uh, protection money.

Anyone who would throw around threats of this nature is just itching to incite some nutbag into doing something really, really destructive.  In an economic and political climate like we have now, God only knows what will pop the cork on a bottle of horrors we've not seen on this soil since 1865.

This is dangerous shit.

"You were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for... You didn't have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory."

You didn't pay for jack shit, you dumb bitch.

Posted by: joncelli at September 23, 2011 02:49 PM (RD7QR)

A little different. Somewhere in an attic I think there's a picture of Michael Moore getting prettier.

ol' michael needs a bottle up the anus.

oh wait, too late!

Posted by: EC at September 23, 2011 02:49 PM (GQ8sn)

You can get the flechettes, and make your own 12ga rounds.

Posted by: EC at September 23, 2011 02:49 PM (GQ8sn)

Sportsman's guide. They sell them by the pound.

Posted by: awkward davies at September 23, 2011 02:54 PM (YCW1b)

Your pinkies are ours!

I would be foolish to wish for open civil war. I like my comforts too much and can only begin to imagine the horrors this would bring. But there is a large part of me that is ready to fucking boil over and wants to get it the fuck over with. I guess what I'm saying is that if what they want is Mad Max then let's do it all the way. What worries me is that this starts out incrementally, with parts of the law still in place...just enough of it to get me in trouble for pushing back, but not enough to punish the real instigators.Kind of like what I heard was going on in England where shop owners were more afraid of their own police cracking down on them than in doing their policing jobs and controlling the rioters.

Yeah, the same thing.

Or would you like a list of the economic activities that Scott Brown's voted to authorize the government to kill you if you do (or don't do), then show no deference when commanded to stop (or begin) doing them?

Laws are death threats. He's for 'em; she's for 'em. This is not a point of any distinction between the parties.

When was the last time Michael Moore saw his penis? I guessing 1992.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 23, 2011 02:56 PM (136wp)

Why?  Does he not use a mirror when he shaves?

109 ace, I don't think it is so much a threat as a warning.

I'd call you an idiot but your handle says it all anyway.

I would be foolish to wish for open civil war.

Posted by: LGoPs at September 23, 2011 02:56 PM (lHn6+)

There's a lot of truth in this. But if one side is openly calling for riots and the police to confiscate so others will have, I'll be damned if I condone that

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 23, 2011 03:00 PM (jx2j9)

I'm guessing that Moore eventually dies of spontaneous combustion. There's a lot of energy stored up in that lard.

The day is coming when I'm going to have strap this on and escort my wife on grocery shopping trips.

Damn them all to hell for that.

I'm guessing that Moore eventually dies of spontaneous combustion. There's a lot of energy stored up in that lard.

Posted by: ErikW at September 23, 2011 03:02 PM (CB4n3)

1500 bars of soap on the hoof.

I'm guessing that Moore eventually dies of spontaneous combustion. There's a lot of energy stored up in that lard.

Posted by: ErikW at September 23, 2011 03:02 PM (CB4n3)

Dude!  Energy crisis solved.  Hook him up to intravenous bacon and butter, shove him in a sauna and mine the drippings.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 23, 2011 03:00 PM (tQFhY)

I thought I heard around $1.5 million, but don't quote me on that.  I know most all of the landscaping in the whole area around the capital building was destroyed and will have to be replaced, and that ain't cheap.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 23, 2011 03:06 PM (z/Mo

Skin that smokewagon and see wahat happens!

Watched the original last night - great movie. But didn't Rooster say that becuase Pepper called him "a fat, old man" ?

A one-eyed fat man.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz at September 23, 2011 03:08 PM (AMi60)

My dad is a 25 year vet of Columbus Fire and the stories that he tells...

Posted by: Mike at September 23, 2011 03:07 PM (NH9Y5)

I imagine a lot of website hacking would occur.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 23, 2011 03:09 PM (QMtmy)

For Moore, everyday that he says anything is Talk Like a Fat Dumbass Day.

Watched the original last night - great movie. But didn't Rooster say that becuase Pepper called him "a fat, old man" ?

I feel that posts like this are just bait to get me to post hateful comments, and I will not fall for it

...but we're going to need a factory whaling ship to process Moore's carcass

Posted by: Honey Badger at September 23, 2011 03:12 PM (GvYeG)

Well? Are you gonna move, or are you gonna just stand there and bleed?

something like that.

^{Posted by: kathysaysso at September 23, 2011 02:48 PM (ZtwUX)}

You mean the fat slobs that are so tough with old folks and people in wheelchairs? And the gang bangers that fire 100 shots at some rival on a street corner and instead kill some kid asleep in bed 2 blocks over. I'm messing myself.

Posted by: Angry White (mostly) Man at September 23, 2011 02:50 PM (OlN4e)

I didn't say they'd win!  The left aren't the thinkingest bunch, or they wouldn't be on the left in the first place.

Posted by: Mike at September 23, 2011 03:07 PM (NH9Y5)

The big difference now is that Ayers and people like him are supported by the WH.

>Well, Moore is a nice, fat target for the UARS. One could hope...

the last time an object from space fell on something that big, nearly all life on earth was wiped out

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at September 23, 2011 03:15 PM (nxptv)

Probably has her wear a Princess Leiah outfits so he can live out his Jabba fetish.  

Is the lard ass calling on people to attack him and take his money? And for all these Hollywood or "celebrity" nit wits who can't keep their uninformed mouths shut about politics I have a simple solution. If you think the rich aren't taxed enough then you should be taxed at 100%.

In fact, I saw that dipshit Ron Howard being interviewed saying that back when the Andy Griffith show was on the rich were taxed at 90% and things were great then. Fine asswipe then give 90% of your income to the government and shut up about it.

The saddest part of this is that it's not at all unexpected.  I'd like to say this kind of vitriolic commentary from the Left is a dangerous departure from the norm, but come on.  We're talking about the same kind of people who claim Union violence (like, oh, getting stabbed in the neck) isn't illegal because it's a "legitimate union activity." 

Yeah.  Okay. 

We all know this is how they've always felt, and more than once how they've talked.  They're just getting louder now because they're terrified that their fragile grip on the national consciousness is really going to slip away once and for all.  Nothing like death of a juvenile pipe dream to make the banshees shriek. 

Admittedly Michael Moore is fatter than your average banshee, but six of one, half a dozen of the other.

189 OT:

From Drudge....Morgan Freeman is dead to me now.  Fuck him.

Dittos. Typical dunderhead. Black man screws up, people notice, people are racists. Shoosh. I really expected better of him. Don't know why I did though?

Posted by: lu at September 23, 2011 03:14 PM (pLTLS

It takes one to know one.

I've been worried lately that I've been entering tin-foil hat territory.

Because this possibility has started to seem real to me.

It seems incomprehensible to me, as a citizen of the United States, that I should be worried about mass violence in the streets or a government using force against it's citizens like a third world banana republic but there ya have it.

I make jokes about turning into a one-woman militia in Manolo Blaniks, trade snark with friends about the "compound" or preparing for a zombie apocalypse. But it's there, nibbling around the edges of my consciousness.

For my entire life my faith in the US (even back when I was a raging liberal) was immutable. My belief in America was like my belief in gravity. It was what it was and nothing could possibly change it. Things might get a little out of whack but the basic structure was such that it would self-correct.

Now ... I don't know what to think.

199 Yeah, I'm calling bull on that "blue collar conservative" Chicago thing. I grew up in Chicago, lived there for thirty years, and live there now, too. I'm surrounded by blue collar liberal fools, all of whom think that being liberal makes them sophisticated. They have no idea how absurd they are.

Kensington, I believe you have discovered a pychological archetype. Genius!

Wasn't this the job of Obama's proposed Internal Security Force? The one that was to have as much funding as the Defense Dept.?

Did someone mention a civilian national police force?

h ttp://isbn.nu/9780833046536    (A Stability Police Force for The United States, Rand MG819)

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Tea Party SOB at September 23, 2011 03:22 PM (d0Tfm)

But does anyone really want to punch that fat sonuvabitch in the gut?  Can you imagine how far your fist would sink into his waistline before you actually contacted anything vital? 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 23, 2011 03:23 PM (9hSKh)

Not surprising.

I have ammunition and weapons.

I have, courtesy of the taxpayer, skill in the proper employment of weapons and ammunition.

Bring it, lardass.

I'm fucking tired of Mikey Moore and the rest of the useless idiots making threats.

You want to take it? Well, that works just fine for me, 'cuz I want to give you a Hindu beauty mark.

(Computer-synthesized voice)

"SHALL WE PLAY A GAME?"

Now ... I don't know what to think.

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at September 23, 2011 03:23 PM (2ZgUA)

Think 1860.

211, Welcome to the party, pal

I've been awake to the possibility since 1993.

I sort of dozed back off from 2000-2008 thinking maybe W admin would pull us back from the brink.

I was very wrong.

@211

Same here...except for the Manolos.  They clash with my penis.

Blue collar liberal fool does pretty much describe the fine voters of Illinois.  If they were "conservative", they wouldn't happily vote for the lowest form of liberals that you can find on the national stage and people like Farrakhan and Phleger wouldn't be treated with an ounce of respect.  Heck, the Chicago Tribune won't give out the race of criminals because, gosh darn it, it just isn't relevant for people to know the race of a marauding rapist on the loose.  Of course, with the Trib, you know if they don't describe the offender what the race is.

I'm fucking tired of Mikey Moore and the rest of the useless idiots making threats.

You know what's even more disgusting?  As soon as violence erupts -- and it will, because every leftist I have ever met is just one groupthink away from absolute batshit insanity -- Moore and his ilk will:

A) Blame it all on conservatives, the Tea Party, and right wing political vitriol;

then

B) When it finally comes out that the perpetrators were in fact leftwing psychos who really BELIEVED what Moore & Co. was peddling, he'll come out and say, "It was never my intention for my words to incite this level of bloodshed.  But I was driven to such emotional oratory because of the injustices of the right wing teabaggers."

And THAT is what the history books will remember.  In glowing terms.

Just who are youse callin' a protection racket?

238 _{Are any Perry fans seriously taking a second look at Romney now?}

Posted by: Lauren at September 23, 2011 03:32 PM (frrvB)

---

Yes. I unsubscribed from his lists (to which I had subscribed earlier in the year because despite the accusations leveled at me about being anti-Romney and anti-LDS, he had been my top candidate for quite a while). 

Rather amusing.  Seems like gambling to me.  Also, reminiscent of Obama.  

_{I'm fucking tired of Mikey Moore and the rest of the useless idiots making threats.}

_{You know what's even more disgusting?  As soon as violence erupts -- and it will, because every leftist I have ever met is just one groupthink away from absolute batshit insanity -- Moore and his ilk will:}

_{A) Blame it all on conservatives, the Tea Party, and right wing political vitriol;}

_then

_{B) When it finally comes out that the perpetrators were in fact leftwing psychos who really BELIEVED what Moore & Co. was peddling, he'll come out and say, "It was never my intention for my words to incite this level of bloodshed.  But I was driven to such emotional oratory because of the injustices of the right wing teabaggers."}

_{And THAT is what the history books will remember.  In glowing terms.}

That is assuming that Maggot Moore is still around after the violence. It's a small planet after all. He should be careful what he wishes for. Saddam Hussein was dragged from his spider hole. Bin Laden was cancelled like a fuckin stamp. And they moved a lot more stealthy than that tub of shit.

Posted by: Kensington at September 23, 2011 03:21 PM (Z7toi)

Chicago is a bunch of city working union thugs or idiots who went to college, learned nothing but think that makes them smart. The first group votes Democrat out of self and selfish interest the second because they think that voting Democrat makes them smart and progressive because Democrats "care" about the environment and teachers and abortion. But asked one of the college educated idiots anything and you get a blank stare or they tell you what they heard on Jon Stewart's show.

Posted by: Joffen at September 23, 2011 03:30 PM (EPcuy)

Nah, way too early.

Posted by: Y-not at September 23, 2011 03:33 PM (5H6zj)

Me either.

Now ... I don't know what to think.

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at September 23, 2011 03:23 PM (2ZgUA)

Think 1860.

Posted by: Angry White (mostly) Man at September 23, 2011 03:28 PM (OlN4e)

Or 1642 (which gave birth to the philosophy of John Locke and Thomas Hobbes), or 1776 (based off the ideas of Locke), or 1789 (based off Hobbes and Rosseau), or 1917 (based off Marx, inherited and expanded from Rosseau).

States are like laws: they exist in idea only. Therefore they can change. We've been eroding what it means to be an American for almost a century now. How much longer can that hold?

"If I recall, the rich factory owners hired private security back in the day. Pinkerton made lots of money. I guess rich Pinkerton relied on the police to protect him. Or maybe not."

Yeah, but these days these bigger corporations could afford to hire Blackwater (or Xe or whatever). Can you imagine 9 or 10 kitted out Special Operations operators facing a mob of these pansies? 

233.....Are any Perry fans seriously taking a second look at Romney now?

I was trying to stay open to the idea of Romney. In case Perry flamed out or something.

But after last night....no way. I just do not trust Romney to not change his mind or flip flop on something like the 2nd Amendment or Cap & Trade....or even repealing ObamaCare. ....Romney seems as desperate for power as Al Gore was in 2000.

Romney really pissed me off last night with his Hannity interview. He mentioned Perry as unelectable and provided as evidence of that Perry's making Social Security an issue. Everyone knows that it needs changed. Romney didn't say Perrys plan was bad, but that a canidate shouldn't touch it because its risky.

I don't have great faith in him going out of his way to fix it, or repeal Obamacare due to the risk it would entail.

I don't comment often but I lurk all the time. I'm grateful to have y'all. The folks here make me laugh and feel a little less crazy.

Kind of related, in terms of intimidating people, one of the teacher's unions for a school district here just sent a letter to all the teachers in the district that specifically called out 2 parents in the district who are the legislative chairs for the PTA and implied that the parents are schills for corporations that want to take over the schools, eliminate the teachers, and make lots of money.

It's now getting down to the level where a parent who volunteers at their child's school is fair game to intimidate. Imagine what the parents thought in terms of their kids in the classroom every day facing teachers who received this letter.

 We'd rather fuck than fight.

Posted by: sifty at September 23, 2011 03:41 PM (4CSeG)

Damn!

*shuts down her TD3 game*

I don't comment often but I lurk all the time. I'm grateful to have y'all. The folks here make me laugh and feel a little less crazy.

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at September 23, 2011 03:41 PM (2ZgUA)

And why would you feel crazy???

Hannity saying Solyondra bought all their building materials from Asia.

What a joke

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 23, 2011 02:41 PM

That's  the only reason they support unions...to do their dirty work.  They don't really care about the working class, they just use them as tools for their own esoteric ideas.  Something to talk about as they sip their wine or lattes.

I did warn you all.

Posted by: Ayn Rand at September 23, 2011 02:46 PM (K3JXA)

Me, too.

Anyone who would throw around threats of this nature is just itching to incite some nutbag into doing something really, really destructive.  In an economic and political climate like we have now, God only knows what will pop the cork on a bottle of horrors we've not seen on this soil since 1865.

This is dangerous shit.

Posted by: Jaws at September 23, 2011 02:51 PM (tRb7k)

You know, last nite on the news they were doing a little segment that was showing a map of the SF Bay Area with the locations and numbers of billionaires in each city.

Could they be laying the groundwork?

Please please PLEASE PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE let fatty McButterpants Moore take up the rubric of violence against the rich.

Give someone an excuse Mikey.

Give someone an excuse.

Luckily, I'm fully prepared with my stockpile of ammo, beans and rice, guns, hockey pads, assless chaps and hair clippers to start my mohawk.

You had me at assless chaps.

So, Michael Moore and Elizabeth Warren think they can control the angry mobs?

They're like little children playing with matches. Most likely outcome: nothing. Worst possible outcome: Something very, very bad that they didn't intend to happen.

But after last night....no way. I just do not trust Romney to not change his mind or flip flop on something like the 2nd Amendment or Cap & Trade....or even repealing ObamaCare. ....Romney seems as desperate for power as Al Gore was in 2000.

Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at September 23, 2011 03:40 PM (gZO5m)

Agree.  He seems to be a man obsessed.  He's done absolutely nothing since 2008 but setting himself up for this election.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at September 23, 2011 03:44 PM (nxptv)

I think of them as a back-up weapon.

327, somewhere there are pics of her drinking a shot by that name.

She's a most impressive woman.

Posted by: Kensington at September 23, 2011 03:44 PM (Z7toi

The left sees the Tea Party cutting budgets and entitlements so they are saber rattling in an attempt to get the recipients who will get their bennies cut to join together for whatever.

Posted by: Y-not at September 23, 2011 03:47 PM (5H6zj)

hahahahah...you still pay your mortgage?!?!?

I don't comment often but I lurk all the time. I'm grateful to have y'all. The folks here make me laugh and feel a little less crazy.

Um, you're welcome?

I'm just wondering what the left's idea of revolution in this coutry actually is?

So far it's been a bunch of masked pussies throwing trash cans through storefront windows during G8 meetings. Oooooh! Scary!

They don't have the fucking balls for real violence.

It's now getting down to the level where a parent who volunteers at their child's school is fair game to intimidate. Imagine what the parents thought in terms of their kids in the classroom every day facing teachers who received this letter.

I have long believed that the nastiest political fights of all are for school board.  I lived in an area where the teachers were either on strike, threatening to go on strike or demanding the last contract be voided for nearly 20 years.  The local school board elections were vicious.  More than one marriage ended what with the revelations of affairs, alcoholism, drug use and all the other dirty laundry that got aired.

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 23, 2011 03:42 PM (aYQHH)

Doughboy Pools

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 23, 2011 03:48 PM (aYQHH)

Just so you know ... I'm not really dumb. Or a blonde. I just pretend.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at September 23, 2011 03:44 PM (nxptv)

Go on... get to the assless chaps...

Posted by: Ken Gladney at September 23, 2011 03:52 PM (GQ8sn)

I don't comment often but I lurk all the time. I'm grateful to have y'all. The folks here make me laugh and feel a little less crazy.

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at September 23, 2011 03:41 PM (2ZgUA

Are you legit or just sneaky spam?

327, somewhere there are pics of her drinking a shot by that name.

She's a most impressive woman.

Shhhh ... the first rule of Facebook is we don't talk about Facebook.

326 I've had a hellish week.  Really awful. 

But today we got good news, of a sort.  The interest rates have dropped enough since our house purchase a couple of months ago that it is worthwhile to refinance (says our mortgage broker, we talk to him next week).  And, somehow, miraculously the comps in our neighborhood this past couple of months have been favorable, so our PMI will go away and the mortgage broker/company would be willing to eat the fees.  So supposedly we don't pay out of pocket either and we get a more favorable loan. 

I guess economic doom has some up sides.

Buy more houses.

The biggest flaw in this thinking is that the dirt poor in this country are primarily morons. And morons shit where they eat. They won't even get to the wealthy because first they'll destroy their own neighborhoods and then everyone else will be waiting for them with pitchforks and shotguns.

Yes, again in reference to the Rodney King rioting I know this to be true.  Idiot rioters were burning down their own stores, DMVs, and destroying their other public services.  Where I lived, we were locked and loaded waiting for any rioters.  None ever came to our neighborhood - they at least knew better than to do that.  I remember seeing neighborhood men waiting on their rooftops with weapons scouting for any trouble.  Good times.

Buy more houses.

We must tax home mortgages. 6 % of the financed amount.

330 No, you have to build the tower about 1000-1500 feet away, or the snipers will feel like they're shooting fish in barrel.

But yeah, you drop the first one, maybe the first five, and the rest will scatter like leaves in the wind. Self-preservation is a wonderful thing.

The further you go out the more it freaks them out. I saw an interview with a sniper who shot 50cal. He said that their seeing the head of the guy next to them turn to red mist and not hearing the shot for what seems like minutes has a calming effect on your opponent (well maybe not calming just warm and wet in the underpants).

You don't even have to shoot them. Just put a red dot on their chest and they run away. Very effective. We learned this in Somalia a few years back. Great deterrent.

Posted by: Michael Moore at September 23, 2011 03:56 PM (Z7toi)

Yo, ding dong, man. Ding dong. Ding dong, yo!

Just so you know ... I'm not really dumb. Or a blonde. I just pretend.

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at September 23, 2011 03:53 PM (2ZgUA)

Prove it! Pictures or we keep thinking that you are!

But does anyone really want to punch that fat sonuvabitch in the gut?  Can you imagine how far your fist would sink into his waistline before you actually contacted anything vital? 

plus it's hard to fight with partially digested raw fish and pizza in your eyes

Tomato, Tomahto

Stinky hippiecrites.

296....This from RedState:

By any objective measure, Rick Perry did not perform well in last nightÂ’s debate. According to people who have followed Perry throughout his career, he has never won a single debate he has participated in, and yet he continues to win elections. More importantly, he continues to do a good job as Governor of Texas. There is much to be said for the idea that we ought to prefer the candidate who is better at governing than debating; after all, the country went the other way in 2008, and that hasnÂ’t turned out so well.

Posted by Joffen

-------------------

Thanks, I haven't checked RedState in a while.

Perry is establishing himself as 'the guy who tells the truth even when it hurts him'. ....Which is a refreshing change for a lot of people.

I've been thinking about it......and I was trying to remember when we had a Republican win the WH who said he "would be tough on illegals" if elected.

Bush Jr and Sr were both 'compassionate'.

Reagan - the only one to ever give Amnesty, wasn't he?

Ford - wasn't elected, he succeeded Nixon-Agnew.

Nixon - I really don't know, was he tough on illegal immigration?

Bottom line is.....the candidates who are acting all tough right now about illegal immigration, are most likely hitting their deathnail for any hope of winning the general.

It's sort of a conundrum.

Posted by: Downscaled Upscale at September 23, 2011 04:10 PM (IhHdM)

Find an in-state bank or credit union.

388, disagree. If you're justified in pulling the trigger then you better be justified in killing them.

Find an in-state bank or credit union.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 23, 2011 04:12 PM (UnAol)

USAA if you are eligible!

They were able to beat the best credit union in my area.

Well .. Liz Warren's comments, along with Mike Moore's musings tell me that they are WAKING UP as Marxists.

You see - say what you will about Socialism being a failed and evil concept (it certainly is) ... but Karl Marx knew more than the Socialists did.

Karl Marx knew that, no matter what a Socialist did to separate a capitalist from his money - the capitalist would always "outsmart" the Socialist.  Marx knew this ... and I think he knew this because he knew that good capitalists were a lot farther right on the bell curve than even the best Socialists.

So Marx advocated TAKING from the capitalists - by force of arms.  That, to me, is really the key distinction between Socialism and Marxism.  Socialism is a kind of "We can all get along - please give us your money" ... while Marxism is ... "Hey, it's your money or your life!"

That's why Marxism is superior to Socialism.  Marx knew that no one who believed in his bullshit would be smart enough to outsmart capitalists - but any idiot can be pretty convincing when he's holding a Mauser.

395"The 'Oh yeah? Bring it on, bitches!' vibe going around- it ain't productive."

>>> It's not MEANT to be productive.  But it is accurate.  There's a lot of scores that need to be settled. But they have to give us an excuse first.