1 Rick Perry puts Paul Anka on notice regularly. 

2 Bye bye england

3 It's like watching a favorite friend drink themselves to death.  They know what they need to do but can't give up the booze.

4

I've asked my v v lefty UK friends who are horrified by this idea to explain to me why it is that they aren't out there rioting and looting and living on the dole as that the is most logical and cost effective manner of living.  I've yet to hear any explanation that coincides with their worldview.

I know it's mean to make people confront their utter intellectual inanity, but it amuses me. 

5 FT linked stories always trips up a pay-firewall for me.  Anyone else have that problem?

Oh and fuck yeah take their bennies away.  What are they going to do?  Give them more to stop the rioting?  Shit, I wonder how fast I can be a UK citizen, if at all, to cash in.

6 Matt Damon for president!

"So why is Damon's name being mentioned in the context of the 2012 race for the White House and a possible liberal challenge to Barack Obama? The simple answer is to blame leftwing firebrand Michael Moore.

 

Moore, in a discussion with the liberal politics blog Firedoglake, raised the issue as he talked about his frustration with Obama, who many American leftists see as ignoring them while compromising with the Republican party."

It's not everyday that I agree with Michael Moore but when he's right, he's right.  Damon should challenge Obama for the Democrat nomination.

7 The link is behind a paywall. Can you take some choice quotes from the article and put them in block quotes?

8 RD, great catch on that UK Tabloid. I laughed so hard. so freaking hard

9   Tess of the D'Urberville's wouldn't a had to stab Alec to death if only the dole had been around in the early 19th Century. And baby Sorrow would still be alive. They're fucking monsters , the English

10 14 Reasons Rick Perry Would Be a Bad President
http://tinyurl.com/3wwy75t

11 This is crap I'm talkin' about.... Unless we want to be like those limp-wristed Brits, it's time to get DC out of our lives.

Cause,

12 And who wouldn't hit Matt Damon's mom? I'd hit her so hard only the True King of England could pull me out!!1!!

13 He he he he he, oh Pooter Hound.(blush)

14 The link is behind a paywall. Can you take some choice quotes from the article and put them in block quotes?

Posted by: Ben at August 15, 2011 10:52 AM (wuv1c)

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!  Not the dreaded block quotes!

15 Matt Damon would be awesome as President. I saw him shooting terrorists and stuff the other day. Pretty cool. All this talk about Rick Perry, he just shot some mangy old dog, Damon is killing terrorists and shit!

16 My uncle is a borderline communist type lefty.  The stimulus "didn't go far enough", "Progressives were pandering to the Republicans the first two years", etc.  We always argue about politics (he's a great guy, just nuts politically).  Last night we were texting back and forth and it turned to light-hearted religion talk.  I said something to the effect of God having a sick sense of humor and he responded "does that mean we're living in hell?" I said, "Only for the last 30 months or so".  He just responded "Okay, good night". 

He will always fire back against my political beliefs after comments like mine, but he didn't even have the energy to muster a response on behalf of Obama. 

I thought that was really encouraging.

17 Only a lib could link not writing a check with "too expensive"

18 @7 The attacks on the JEF from the left are becoming more common. My local fishwrap has a column today from a retired journalist and reliable lefty (BIRM) that was dripping delicious progressive tears. I'd link but doing tiny on my phone sucks. In short, he said that Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

19 Imagine how expensive it would be to not write any checks a month.

20 England's going to cut off the dole to their rioters.  Maryland police won't even investigate flash mobbery.  Is this the Obama/ACORN Police Dept.?

21 I like the Mark Steyn quote, I think from the Sunday ONT, "England, where they police everything but crime."

22 The thing I know best about the Brits is from going aboard one of their Tin Cans back in the 1940's. They don't use as much soap and water as our navy.

23 It's controversial to even consider stopping subsidizing the yobs who are literally destroying their country? Yep, they're boned.

24 Is yobs an acronym or a nickname?

25

pillaging local shoppes

Excellent Fred Reed column:

http://tinyurl.com/3pe7hbx

Also, excellent iSteve thread:

http://tinyurl.com/4yk9bbl

Bottom line: Purchase more ammo.

[BTW, this minx.cc "text editor" no longer works under IE9...]

 

26 I found it, Yobs is Boys spelled backwards. Backward boy, criminal behavior.

27 8 The link is behind a paywall. Can you take some choice quotes from the article and put them in block quotes?

Posted by: Ben at August 15, 2011 10:52 AM (wuv1c)

Registration's free.

28 I'm on the McCotter bandwagon.  Ok, its just me and him but we are laughing.

29 29, I like him too. He is level of smart they all claimed Obama was.

30 Frankly I find the fall of the Brits amazing.  In 70 years they have gone from 'keep a stiff upper lip' to whiny little vaginas...

31 27 I found it, Yobs is Boys spelled backwards. Backward boy, criminal behavior.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 15, 2011 11:09 AM (ZDUD4)

Yep.  It's a slang term for a thug, a low-class street tough. 

32 Yep.  It's a slang term for a thug, a low-class street tough.

What's a chav?

33 1 reason why Romney will NEVER be President.

Only NE liberal RINOs will vote for him, but not enough to turn the State.

34 Are there any countries out there that are not on a fast track to shithole statis?

35

It's a "vahc" spoelled backwards.

PS: Youtube "chav hunt"...

 

 

36 Ragamuffins!

OT: Ms. Ghandi speedy recovery.

37 34, Canada.

38 What's a chav?

Council-House, Always Violent.

39

Are there any countries out there that are not on a fast track to shithole statis?

Red State America, Iceland, Israel, MAYBE Finland, and that's about all...

 

40 Jim Treacher had a blog post at The DC Caller on the UK riots titled: "Give a man a fish, and he'll riot for free fish" Spot on.

41 FT.com articles are only available to registered users and subscribers

42 31 Frankly I find the fall of the Brits amazing.  In 70 years they have gone from 'keep a stiff upper lip' to whiny little vaginas...

Two costly World Wars and the decline of Empire took a heavy toll on the British populace.   Sadder still is that Britian and the US are on the same general curve, just that Britian is a little ahead of us.  It's kinda like peering into a glass darkly...

43 @33: professional welfare recipient.  Imagine the cast of Jersey Shore, but with less taste.

44 The "must stop Perry" engine is firing on all cylinders.

Actually this is the "must stop any challenger to Obumbles" engine, it will rotate amongst the leaders of the pack of Republicans from now until 11/6/12.  I can only hope that the dinosaur press has truly lost its influence.

45 Jim Treacher, Is he any realation to Arthur Treacher? Remember the Fish and Chips guy? My mom took me there to eat when we lived in So Cal in the early 70's.

46 Slim Shady's and Jersey Shore Kids put together that's a CHAV

47 Posted by: rockhead at August 15, 2011 11:19 AM (ZMHGo)

I think it's both, and too many republicans are buying into the "Stop Perry" part of it, thinking that- if it's successful- it won't turn it's eyes to their candidate next.

48 rockhead, Pamela Geller exposed Rick Perry's pro-Sharian ass.

49 steyn had an excellent piece in ibd today i don't have linking capabilities

50 blockquoted for your pleasure.

51 Actually this is the "must stop any challenger to Obumbles and Romney" engine, it will rotate amongst the leaders of the pack of Republicans from now until 11/6/12.  I can only hope that the dinosaur press has truly lost its influence.

Consider that an enhancement, not a fix.

52 I don't think there's a lot of difference between yobs and chavs.  I think the stereotypical image of a chav is a pasty-white kid dressed like a rapper and wearing a sideways ballcap.  Same thuggish, delinquent behavior.

53 Hey, Krak, why did your update kill the other comments?

Also: Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure. (Note: this statement is never off topic).

54 Council-House, Always Violent.

Eh, these acronym-origins seem to always turn out to be wrong. Like "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge".

55 Me, in my starring role in "Team America: World Police"

http://tinyurl.com/28z5nu

56

Thanks for the block quote, can't register to the site here at work.

Can't believe it. So the Lib Dems are pro riots? I hope the Tories run on that.

57 It's kinda like peering into a glass darkly...

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 15, 2011 11:18 AM (9hSKh)

Worst investment, US taxpayers rebuilding socialist-forever Europe after WWII.

We didn't rebuild our own factories and railroads.

58 56, I loved that movie, I can't help it.

59 Hey, Krak, why did your update kill the other comments?
AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 15, 2011 11:24 AM (8y9MW)

Consider it a feature, rather than a bug.

Seriously though: whenever a blog entry is updated, the comments tend to disappear until the next comment posts, then they all come back.

60

rockhead, Pamela Geller exposed Rick Perry's pro-Sharian ass.

Pamela Geller is the girl you have sex in a  one night stand and then wake up every morning to see her parked outside your house in her car making sure no other women enter your house.

Of all the thing Romney and Obama fans are trying, the pro-sharia one isn't going to stick.

61 Mark Steyn's on the radio at the moment

62 27 I found it, Yobs is Boys spelled backwards.

RACIST!!111!!!!!!

63 "Why don't you keep your feet off the Resolute desk, asshole."

Now that is a question that answers itself.

64 59 56, I loved that movie, I can't help it.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 15, 2011 11:26 AM (ZDUD4)

My favorite part is the speech at the end about, err, genitalia. It is NSFW and has very strong language. DO NOT CLICK if that will offend you.

http://tinyurl.com/d9bxyx

It hit right on the money about corporations and global warming being used to excuse terrorism.

65 Who should we blame for this attack?  The terrorists who blew it up?  No.  Blame Team America!

66 Wise evil overlord say:

Give a man a fish, he eats for a day.  Teach him to fish, and your shark tank will take care of the rest.

67 Irony of ironies . Law student sues alma mater over not finding a job ?  http://tinyurl.com/444u67m

68 That pic of Dick on the sidebar with his feet on the Resolute desk is pissing me off.  Well, I stay perpetually pissed, but it's raising my pissed-off meter to eleventy.

69 Council-House, Always Violent. I read 'Anti-Social Vermin'. Not sure if the Brits even know. They know this, however.

70 Julian Huppert, a Lib Dem MP, warned: “If you say to people there is no way for you to get money then that will lead to an increase in theft.”

Apparently the idea of actually getting a job and doing some work in exchange for money is antiquated.

71 I Love Perry

I Hate Perry

So now what?

72 68, Talk about a saturated field of endeavor. If you want a job it is important to learn things few other people know.

73 Give a man a fish, he eats for a day.  Teach him to fish, and your shark tank will take care of the rest.

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.

74 Kyle Busch , in front!11!!1!!!1!!1

75 Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 15, 2011 11:34 AM (UOM4

Somebody needs to walk into that office, slap his feet off the desk, and say, "Who the fuck let you in here?"

I can't wait for the American people to do it!

Less than 15 months!

76 What does it tell you about Dick Soetero that she let herself be photographed with her hooves upon that desk? Rhetorical question.

77 Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, youÂ’re a mile away and you have their shoes.

78

Worst investment, US taxpayers rebuilding socialist-forever Europe after WWII.

Posted by: maverick muse at August 15, 2011 11:25 AM (lpWVn)

You are joking...correct?

79 Matt Damon! MATT! DAMON!!! Matt DAMON!!!

80 OT - Warren Buffett remains stuck on stupid.

Warren Buffett calls for higher taxes for US super rich

Here's a novel idea Warren,  how about you donate at least 3 quarters of your net wealth to the government and provide an example for your fellow "richers" to follow? 

Alternatively, you can do 100 sit-ups, sit in a corner for a while, and shut the hell up if you are unwilling to put your money where your mouth is.

81 Amnesty is NOT a bad word.

Rick Perry 2012 !

82 Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day With a bevy of scantily clad females milling about.

FIFY

83

Well what will the party line be, Perry is pro islam or too Christian?

I have seen both in 24 hours.

 

84 You can access the full FT article by finding the link on Drudge. Here's my personal favorite quote:

Meanwhile experts are warning the move could be expensive and difficult to achieve. Ian Mulheirn of the Social Market Foundation said: “It is really hard to identify people and remove their benefits in an automated system. Doing that is extremely expensive, and will cost more money than it saves.”

Waaah! It's too hard to punish people! It costs money! Waaah!!!

85 Well what will the party line be, Perry is

Whatever they think will get Romney elected.

86 I had this same blindingly obvious thought, though I'm amazed anyone in British government dares say it out loud.

87 69 That pic of Dick on the sidebar with his feet on the Resolute desk is pissing me off.  Well, I stay perpetually pissed, but it's raising my pissed-off meter to eleventy.

He'll be remembered as the POTUS who lead the country into the greatest financial decline. Vilified and scorned except by a few dolts...

88

 Maryland police won't even investigate flash mobbery.  Is this the Obama/ACORN Police Dept.?

Better Berhnard Goetz than Reginald Denny. I am waiting for the guy who shoots one or more of the flash mob members, and the Demunist Commiecrats' attempt to prosecute him.

89 Talk about a saturated field of endeavor. If you want a job it is important to learn things few other people know and are willing to pay for.

Being able to quote from every episode of Dr. Who will not likely garner one a decent wage.

90 Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.

We had to disallow the beer.  The sharks complained about the taste.

91 91, Good adder, that too.

92 Amnesty is NOT a bad word.

Rick Perry 2012 !

Posted by: Rick Perry's Ovaries

Quit shouting. I have a migraine. Turn the lights down.

93 Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.

We had to disallow the beer.  The sharks complained about the taste.

Guess it's back to feeding them Snickers bars.

94 Packing up the furniture after November, 2012.

Posted by: Downrated Upscale at August 15, 2011 11:41 AM (IhHdM)

That's probably the most physical thing the jugeared jackass has ever done, except golf and play basketball (and bone Reggie Love).

95
Packing up the furniture after November, 2012.

Posted by: Downrated Upscale at August 15, 2011 11:41 AM (IhHdM)

JEF has not done a single day of physical labor in his life. Has to be Photoshopped.

96

Imagine how expensive it would be to not write any checks a month.

Yup.  The system is set up to go one way only.  The entire concept of stopping payments is simply incomprehensible.  After all, it's really damn hard to write a few lines of code to be able to uncheck "receive payments".

 

97 Packing up STEALING the furniture after November, 2012.

I have no idea what that does to the link.
Probably adds unauthorized block quotes.

98 (and bone Reggie Love).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 15, 2011 11:44 AM (UOM4

Hey, I was pitching, he was catching...

99 >>JEF has not done a single day of physical labor in his life. Has to be Photoshopped.


Hanging drapes isn't considered work.

100 Denny Hamlin is out? Denny Hamlin is out??????

101 Hanging drapes isn't considered work.

Posted by: sTevo at August 15, 2011 11:47 AM (pbxaE)

---

Spoken like a man. 

Amiright, ladies?!

102 the Charlie Daniels of the torque wrench at August 15, 2011 I'm watching too, you are not alone.

103

OT - Warren Buffett remains stuck on stupid.

Warren Buffett calls for higher taxes for US super rich

Buffett was calling for raising the Death Tax the same year he sheltered $40 Billion of his money in Bill Gates chairity. If the government was such a good deal why didn't he give his $40 Billion to them.

104 Posted by: Y-not at August 15, 2011 11:49 AM (5H6zj)

Answer this:  would you rather have a man who considered hanging drapes "work" or one who thinks hanging drapes should not be considered work.

Consider carefully.

105 I may not be Mitt's biggest supporter. But if he keeps this up, I could change my mind;

Mitt Romney Dubs Obama's Trip the 'Magical Misery Bus Tour'

106

What was that English quote after America re-elected G.W.Bush?

Oh yeah!.......... "How can they all be so STUPID????"

Thank GOD we're not european is all I have to say.

107 Warren Buffett calls for higher taxes for US super rich Buffett was calling for raising the Death Tax the same year he sheltered $40 Billion of his money in Bill Gates chairity. If the government was such a good deal why didn't he give his $40 Billion to them. Posted by: robtr at August 15, 2011 11:50 AM (MtwBb) I'll gladly sent him all my tax bills and let him have fine old time with them

108 82 Amnesty is NOT a bad word.

Rick Perry 2012 !

Posted by: Rick Perry's Ovaries at August 15, 2011 11:39 AM (EL+OC)

----

Do you think they all should be deported?
There is no way that in the US we would roundup every illegal immigrant there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants not only economically is that just an impossibility but that's not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue that we face with illegal immigration.

....To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?
I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.

109 Ben #61 in the willing suspension of disbelief, go read the article @ American Thinker. The associations are Perry's own.

Attacking Pamela Geller as if she'd have sex with you only to play out a fatal attraction sounds stupid.

Playing Perry's apologist, siding with these particular Muslim organizations with whom Perry has made political alliances, supports Sharia Law not only in the MidEast, but in America. But pretend it's for the sake of PC Tolerance to promote compassionate conservation of socialism.

Perry announced that he'd "create jobs" as POTUS. That's not the job of government, to "create jobs". To maintain business friendly environment is on thing; whereas the federal government "creating jobs" is another tax & spend burden laden with fraud.

The reason Texas is business friendly is not because of any particular governor, but because of the Texas citizen voters who've to date maintained the State Constitution's figure-head powerless role of Governor. Perry, for the record, increased the number of state employees while usurping powers not constitutionally intended for the governor, specifically denied. If indeed the Texas Model is what's right for our nation, then the POTUS must have powers cut back, not just curtailed to what is constitutionally specified, but cut back further. And Perry's not about to let that happen. His promises are meant for suckers.

My own reasons for not supporting Perry result from his record as TX Governor, assuming more authority than the State Constitution permits, slapped down on three occasions for abusing US citizens' constitutional rights by the Texas public, the State Legislature and the State Supreme Court. Perry's communications with Obama amount to "sternly written letters" that made no impact on the Obama administration's attacks on Texas (ban licensing) and on the Southwest (illegal aliens). Exchanging one authoritarian for another with the "right" image in the Oval Office is nothing that a constitutional conservative would boast, let alone do.

110 Ok, I'm about as anti-Sharia as you can be, but the links to Perry are pretty weak. He made a speech attended by someone pro-Sharia? Um...so?

111 Posted by: Marcus at August 15, 2011 11:51 AM (CHrmZ)

Yes, because nice alliteration should completely cover over his conception of the relationship between Government and the Governed as shown by Romneycare.

112 107 I may not be Mitt's biggest supporter. But if he keeps this up, I could change my mind;

Mitt Romney Dubs Obama's Trip the 'Magical Misery Bus Tour'

Posted by: Marcus at August 15, 2011 11:51 AM (CHrmZ)

Dammit.  I called it that a few days ago.

113 Completely off topic:


1.1 miles in 15 minutes.  If I can keep that up until next Sunday, should I up the resistance on the elliptical or add to time and try for 1.3 miles in 20 minutes?

114 Thank Heavens we blessed with a Community Agitator-in-Chief who would never let the kind of lawlessness witnessed in Europe to prevail in America, - just flash mob dancing.

115 Answer this:  would you rather have a man who considered hanging drapes "work" or one who thinks hanging drapes should not be considered work.

Thinking back to how much I paid to have the window treatments installed in our house California, I'm not thinking I'd be all that upset to have been married to that dude. 

116 Re Mitt's bus tour dig.  Yeah, it's good, but not enough to move him above Perry.

I do think he has criticized Obama more than some realize and I think he'd be a better attack dog than Pawlenty, should it come down to those two for VP. 

117 To maintain business friendly environment is on thing;

This is clearly what Perry is saying. Cut taxes, keep regulations simple and predictable, and Tort reform.

118 Rick Perry may have made some poor decisions.
Mitt Romney actually has made some poor decisions.

Of the two individuals, one of them has reversed himself.

Can you guess which one?

119 Posted by: Sarah Palin at August 15, 2011 11:52 AM (5H6zj)

Nice.  And did you miss the question that he answered by saying there's already a path to citizenship?  One called "get in line?"

Perry announced that he'd "create jobs" as POTUS. That's not the job of government, to "create jobs". To maintain business friendly environment is on thing; whereas the federal government "creating jobs" is another tax & spend burden laden with fraud.
Posted by: maverick muse at August 15, 2011 11:52 AM (lpWVn)

Without getting into the rest, this is just a stupid line of argument.  Everyone running for President is saying they'll "create jobs."  Of course they're saying that- it's what is expected.  If you bother to listen to the rest of what he says, he then also says he'll create jobs by reducing regulatory burden, by reducing taxes, and trying to get Washington out of the way.  Those are all solid conservative principles.

120

I love that they are kicking the scumbag families of the rioters out of their council housing.

COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT, BABY.  It's what's for dinner.

121 deathknyte you might want to consult your doctor...what's your heart rate after the 15min?

122 Rick Perry don't give a &^%$!

123 121 Rick Perry may have made some poor decisions.
Mitt Romney actually has made some poor decisions.

Of the two individuals, one of them has reversed himself.

^
This.

That's one of my biggest beefs with Romney.  He seems incapable of acknowledging his mistakes in a way that suggests he wouldn't repeat them. 

Perry's Q&A response to the HPV vaccine question (in NH, I think) was very good. 

124 Posted by: Y-not at August 15, 2011 11:53 AM (5H6zj)

I didn't say anything about a man who'd be willing to hang drapes.  I was talking about a man who considered such effort "work."

125 You can hang drapes ... ?

126 Perry's Q&A response to the HPV vaccine question (in NH, I think) was very good.

I missed it.  What did he say?

I know he's already eaten his crow on the TTC thing.

127 What did Perry say re: HPV?

128 Nice.  And did you miss the question that he answered by saying there's already a path to citizenship?  One called "get in line?"

That's right. We should all believe that I've morphed from Algore's cocksucking campaign manager into fucking Barry Goldwater.

129 Hanging drapes isn't work cause it's so easy.

Clearance rack sheets and a staple-gun takes 2 minutes tops.

130 Maverick Muse seems to be the kind of commentor I was talking about. They have some concerns about Perry and they can back it up with reasons why. This is what is meant by debate people!

131 I didn't say anything about a man who'd be willing to hang drapes.  I was talking about a man who considered such effort "work."

I love ya', AllenG, but whether done for (considerable) profit as a job or done in your own home, it's work.  Trust me.  I've moved a gazillion (Brazillion?) times and had to put the window treatments up myself almost every time. 


But I confess I had not read the thread -- I just saw that comment.  So if this has something to do with Bambi, that's a different kettle of fish. 

132 130 What did Perry say re: HPV?

Under Scrutiny, Perry Walks Back HPV Decision

"I signed an executive order that allowed for an opt-out, but the fact of the matter is that I didn’t do my research well enough to understand that we needed to have a substantial conversation with our citizenry," Perry said at the Manchester, N.H., event in response to an audience question about the HPV controversy, according to ABC News' The Note. "But here’s what I learned: When you get too far out in front of the parade, they will let you know, and that’s exactly what our Legislature did, and I saluted it and I said, 'Roger that, I hear you loud and clear.' And they didn’t want to do it and we don’t, so enough said.”

Instead of making the vaccine mandatory, "what we should of done was a program that frankly allowed them to opt in or some type of program like that," Perry told the New Hampshire gathering.

133 1.1 miles in 15 minutes. If I can keep that up until next Sunday, should I up the resistance on the elliptical or add to time and try for 1.3 miles in 20 minutes? I would go for increased time. If it's not too personal, how old are you?

134 Rick Perry may have made some poor decisions. Mitt Romney actually has made some poor decisions. Of the two individuals, one of them has reversed himself. Can you guess which one? Meh. You underestimate the influence of a really good twenty minute PowerPoint presentation.

135 fyi...the carpet matches the drapes.

136 Clearance rack sheets and a staple-gun takes 2 minutes tops.

lol.  Wouldn't it be easier to just paint your windows black? ;-)

137 Pamela Geller is a one-trick pony who sees a Muslim terrorist hiding under every bed.

I don't believe trying to welcome peaceful Muslims to our country is some type of  reproachable behavior. Ditto highlighting their peaceful accomplishments to the human race.

Perhaps reaching out, in error, to wrong group deserves criticism. But that is the product of hindsight, which she seems to have mastered.

138 138 fyi...the carpet matches the drapes.

You lie!

139 This HPV thing is bullshit. What would all you h8er, hyperventilating, chest-beating amateur  public health experts say if it was a vaccine that prevented HIV? What the diff between HIV and polio?
Really?
Really?

140

You'll never know for sure Kratos..sorrry

 

141 Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 15, 2011 12:02 PM (9hSKh) --------------------- I missed this response! It seems like some of his criticisms are going to go away. This is gonna be epic. We're gonna have the ultimate Democratic liberal vs the ultimate Republican conservative. Let's see who wins!

142 I have always been kinda neutral about Perry, even though I am from Texas. He's not perfect, but certainly not any worse than any other candidate. 

143 142 the difference between hiv and polio really?

144
It is always a temptation for a rich and lazy nation, To puff and look important and to say: -- "Though we know we should defeat you, we have not the time to meet you. We will therefore pay you cash to go away."I was reminded of Kipling, except I doubt their leaders have any notion that benefits dependency or rioting barbarians are worth defeating.

Too "expensive?" If you have no problem spending other people's money, expensive is an excuse that should simply be read as "I don't want to do it."

145 fyi...the carpet matches the drapes.

You lie!

-----------------------------

No.  It's probably true.
I had the same deal going until I cut the carpet to size.

146 Hanging drapes or doing other work.

It is a matter of perspective. Not in 1000 years would I expect to see the JEF using a chain saw or clearing a thicket.

147 That's right. We should all believe that I've morphed from Algore's cocksucking campaign manager into fucking Barry Goldwater.

Posted by: Rick Perry's Ovarie

I have zero executive experience and I worked as a Jr. Tax Collector before moving onto the House. Therefore I'm uniquely qualified to do not much of anything but run for Senate at this point. Because I'm filled with delusions of my own self-worth I'm running for President.

148 "I don't believe trying to welcome peaceful Muslims to our country is some type of  reproachable behavior."

Posted by: Marcus at August 15, 2011 12:03 PM (CHrmZ)

1. There is no such thing as a peaceful Muslim. If they are true Muslims they will support violence on behalf of the stated goal of Islam; which is world domination.

2. Sharia law is another stated goal of Islam, so even if these hypothetical "peaceful Muslims" were to come to our shores, they would work toward a system of laws in direct violation of 2500 years of Western thought.

149 What the diff between HIV and polio?

I hope you're kidding and that is a rhetorical question....

150 Posted by: the Charlie Daniels of the torque wrench at August 15, 2011 -------------------------- So are you in board with government forcing you to take medication? If this was sarcasm then it's ok lol

151 I hang drapes, and levalors, installed 7 new 6 panel doors, replaced all of the toilets, remodeled one bathroom, repainted the entire house adding chair rail and crown molding, installed a ceiling fan, Replaced cabinets in the kitchen and swapped out the kitchen sink and all fixtures. Yep, it was work. I outsourced the counter tops, carpeting and ceramic tile floor, I'm not Bob freanking Vila.

152 142 This HPV thing is bullshit. What would all you h8er, hyperventilating, chest-beating amateur  public health experts say if it was a vaccine that prevented HIV? What the diff between HIV and polio?

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My objection to it is for the government to use the public schools as a free (or pay) clinic for diseases that are not transmittable by ordinary casual contact. 

HPV requires fluid exchange and broken skin.  Polio does not.  The vaccines that schools require (or dispense) are, as far as I recall, for ailments that kids can pass to each other during the school day.  If teachers have so little control over the kids that HPV is being passed... well, there's a bigger issue there than what a vaccine can cure. 

153 Posted by: the Charlie Daniels of the torque wrench at August 15, 2011 12:04 PM (le5qc)

Oh, my! The stupid is strong in this one.

154

Here in Indiana we typically host a "Black Expo" that brings thousands into Indy for the week long exposition. It's an economic boon to the community despite the low class nature of the event, it's participants and the facilities. (Think in terms of a week long convention for 25-45K) With the flash mob/riot thing going viral I'm not looking forward to this event this year at all. If that makes me racist....then I denounce myself....but regardless of race, this event has had issues of hooligans getting out of hand every year for at least the last 8 years if not more. Drive by shootings and police high speed chases. The local media ALWAYS play down the race of the criminal activity at this time of year but you'd have to be blind to fail to recognize that it's "Expo-event related".

This has all the makings of another tragedy at the Indiana State Fair Grounds rolling into downtown Indy. Can we get an Intrade transaction on the likelyhood of tragedy at this years' Expo? Because I'd take the over on that.

 

155 49 rockhead, Pamela Geller exposed Rick Perry's pro-Sharian ass.

Posted by: maverick muse at August 15, 2011 11:22 AM (lpWVn)

Sadly, often Geller's proof is that someone didn't advocate taking Islamists out and shooting them. Often in the aqttempt to market her book  Stop the Islamization of America: A Practical Guide to the Resistance!

Perry's sin?  He sought business deals with the Ishmalis.

156 Posted by: Rick Perry's Ovaries at August 15, 2011 12:00 PM (EL+OC)

So you're sticking with that one?  You don't think that, 20-something years ago- there was still such a thing as a conservative Democrat in the south?  Right, then.  What about "Reagan Democrats?"  That would be that same time-period, for the record.

As someone has said (no, I don't remember who, but I liked the quote) "One thing Rick Perry has never been called is "liberal," because it just wouldn't be true."

Al Gore ran, in 1988, against Michale Dukakis (sp?) for the Democrat Presidential Nomination.  He ran as a pro-life, conservative Democrat.  When Dukakis won the nomination, Perry did not support that campaign- feeling it was too liberal.

The very next year, Rick Perry switched his registration to Republican for his first State-wide election: for Ag Commissioner.  He has been a Republican ever since, and is a staunch supporter of Fiscal and Social conservative values, and specifically of the 10th Amendment.

157 Perry announced that he'd "create jobs" as POTUS. Posted by: maverick muse

When did he say that?

158 What the diff between HIV and polio?

I hope you're kidding and that is a rhetorical question....
Posted by: Kratos

For starters, we've cured polio.

I kind of like Perry's response in general.  My feeling would be different if HPV were communicable through other than sexual contact.

159

Too bad there is no system in place to determing whether Muslim immigrants are, in fact, peaceful.   Can't even ask.  

Islamic peaceful accopmplishments to the human race:

buzzing prayer mat, zero...

Islam gave us zero (which it stole from conquered people) and it's been giving us zero ever since.  

160

Buffett was calling for raising the Death Tax the same year he sheltered $40 Billion of his money in Bill Gates chairity. If the government was such a good deal why didn't he give his $40 Billion to them.

Just remember that those who make these calls have the wherewithal to establish nonprofit tax-exempt foundations to shelter their wealth and *hire* their idiot children to run them. Something that the farmer, manufacturer, or other family business that is asset rich but cash poor does not.

161 I sure would like to know more about Perry's Muzztard connections. Right now I will look at it with a suspicious eye until I learn something that doesn't come from people trying to destroy him.

162 1. There is no such thing as a peaceful Muslim. If they are true Muslims they will support violence on behalf of the stated goal of Islam; which is world domination.

That, I take issue with.
Might be because they apparently aren't "true Muslims" by your definition.

One of them, though, converted to my faith on grounds "he just couldn't stand it any more".  He's from Mumbai -- he has interesting stories about the Muslim population there, and regularly returns to visit family, where he's still warmly received.

163

Sorry, but Rick Perry clearly *does not get it* about immigration. While I Do miss President Bush, I don't miss him that much.

At this point, is Michelle Bachmann our only hope?

164 Look, we all know it... Rick Perry, while indeed being so much larger than life that the top of his mane grazes the stratosphere, has a secret agenda. He is indeed a radical Muslim jihadist, but not the wussy "suicide-belt" variety. He wants to not only perform clitorectomies on your daughters, but your daughter's Barbies as well. He wants to behead not only Beltway Republicans but Tea Party members too, and then he will behead himself. With a rusty blunt cheese knife. And he will do it with the swift efficiency of a surplus Saddam Hussein brand wood chipper. And that will be his first day in office, before lunch. No wonder he is so dearly beloved.

165 My error. I mean from a public health perspective.What I mean to discover is where the Perry pile-on-ers would draw the line on childhood vaccinations. Should any be mandatory for public school attendance?

166 Posted by: the Charlie Daniels of the torque wrench at August 15, 2011 12:13 PM (le5qc)

How about we stick to those that are rather more easily communicable than STDs?

167 So if this has something to do with Bambi, that's a different kettle of fish.

Sorry, the sharks ate the fish.  Going to need a new idiom.

168 HPV requires fluid exchange and broken skin.

Not true. It's something that spreads just by contact in general. Obviously that contact is going to be of a sexual nature, but it is a very opportunistic virus.

Over 50% of the adult population has it, and it can cause serious issues for everyone involved.

From a pubic health standpoint, it does make sense to vaccinate kids before they are sexually active. I don't think this should be mandatory, but I don't think it's much different than the Hep. vaccinations they give to newborns.

169 When an HIV vaccine is developed and tested-safe and available, would you have your child vaccinated?

170 The circular firing squad... the one thing Republicans do that I truly admire. Let them become more proficient, I say.

171 157 It's always best to stay away from the downtown during that weekend. They try to do some good things during teh day  like self-help classes on home ownership, job training etc. But at night the streets run wild. And you're right -- every year without fail the media downplays the numbers of arrests. Print media is a little better than the nightly news. One year there was close to 73 arrests.

172 169 My error. I mean from a public health perspective.What I mean to discover is where the Perry pile-on-ers would draw the line on childhood vaccinations. Should any be mandatory for public school attendance?

Thanks for that straw-man...*rolls eyes*

Y-not has the best answer to demolish your argument:  "The vaccines that schools require (or dispense) are, as far as I recall, for ailments that kids can pass to each other during the school day. " 

HPV is not spread through casual contact or via the air.  'nuff said.

173 Posted by: jwb7605 at August 15, 2011 12:12 PM (Qxe/p)

Show me any significant concentration of Muslims who are not violent, whose schools do not preach Jihad, and who have unequivocally denounced violence on behalf of their religion.

Using one man as an example is called anecdotal evidence, and it is worthless.

174 169 My error. I mean from a public health perspective.

There is a difference from a public health perspective - the mode of transmission.

I don't think folks object to having the option to vaccinate their kids.  But the Gardasil vaccine was poorly tested (at best) and was for something that kids could not catch from each other in school.

The school has a responsibility to ensure that if my kid attends it, she isn't going to come home with polio or TB.  That does not give them the mandate to treat (or vaccinate against) every possible disease my kid could get in life.  Hell, if they are going to become clinics, I wish they'd provide glasses and braces before things like HPV vaccines. 

175 When an HIV vaccine is developed and tested-safe and available, would you have your child vaccinated?

No, but they're welcome to do so themselves when they turn 18. Of course, HPV is far, far more prevalent than HIV. Statistically, half of the people commenting on this thread  have HPV.

176

The circular firing squad... the one thing Republicans do that I truly admire.

Let them become more proficient, I say.

Because accommodating the GOP Establishment who just don't get it works oh so well...... :-P

177 Over 50% of the adult population has it, and it can cause serious issues for everyone involved.

If you want to really get under somebody's skin, point out their cold sores are Herpes (simplex).  I've read that 80% of the population is born with it.  I got lucky, and I'm in the other 20%.

178 The circular firing squad... Some are using pea shooters...

179 The country is on the brink of falling off a cliff and people want to make a federal issue and essentially hand their vote to Obama out of some stupid vaccine that had an opt-out clause.

IOW- I don't get people.

180 Ah, it's the old --illness is deserved punishment for behavior I oppose--line of thinking. In my opinion this approach is wrong. That's all. And Perry seems to agree. I find this comforting.

181 you might want to consult your doctor...what's your heart rate after the 15min?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 15, 2011 11:57 AM (eOXTH)

About 120 or so.  Hard to tell because it goes up and down.  I also can't afford a doctor so I don't have one.

182 172 HPV requires fluid exchange and broken skin.

Not true. It's something that spreads just by contact in general. Obviously that contact is going to be of a sexual nature, but it is a very opportunistic virus.

I'd like to see a citation to an authoritative source for that.  When I looked into it (last week) at medical and science sites, the consensus was fluid transfer via broken skin... not touching intact skin or breathing. 

183 Posted by: the Charlie Daniels of the torque wrench at August 15, 2011 12:13 PM (le5qc)

Of course! Schools are ideal places for passing potentially devastating childhood diseases to others. But mandating a vaccine against a sexually transmitted disease is very different than mandating one for a disease such as polio or pertussis that can be acquired in the community without any sexual contact.

184 Y-not has the best answer to demolish your argument:  "The vaccines that schools require (or dispense) are, as far as I recall, for ailments that kids can pass to each other during the school day. "

Not true. Are your kids going to catch Hepatitis B on the playground? No. It's still a required vaccination.

185 there are consequences to bad behavior.....sometimes it's a jail sometimes it's a virus....

186 You know, we had many of these childhood diseases all but wiped out in America. Then the Door to the South swung wide open.

187 Using one man as an example is called anecdotal evidence, and it is worthless.

That's true.
I'd be glad to provide another six, but a religious flame war is usually unproductive.
The six I refer to fled Iran shortly after the Shah was deposed.

188

I have gingers disease and the only cure is more Kratos um COWBELL!

189 183 The country is on the brink of falling off a cliff and people want to make a federal issue and essentially hand their vote to Obama out of some stupid vaccine that had an opt-out clause.

IOW- I don't get people.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 15, 2011 12:19 PM (pLTLS)

I wonder how many of those that are making the issue are supporting the guy that went and put all of healthcare under state control.  Yeah clearly one vaccination is a no-no.  He should have made the EO for all things and that would have been A-OK with them

190 The circular firing squad... ----- Some are using pea shooters... I see what you did there.

191 Not true. Are your kids going to catch Hepatitis B on the playground? No. It's still a required vaccination.

Posted by: Lauren at August 15, 2011 12:19 PM (cVIY5)

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What school district?

192
If it's not too personal, how old are you?

Posted by: fluffy at August 15, 2011 12:02 PM (4Kl5M)

38 last year.

And before you ask I weigh about 340 pounds and am 6' 1".  I could stand to lose about 100 to 120 pounds.

Most people think I weigh 240 because I am so big.

193 Y-not:

"HPV is usually contracted through vaginal and/or anal sex. It is possible for it to be contracted through oral sexual contact. Direct skin-to-skin contact easily spreads the infection--the virus is not transmitted throuhg blood or body fluids. Actual intercourse with penetration is not necessary to transfer this infection."

(Click on my name for the link to the site)

194

You know, we had many of these childhood diseases all but wiped out in America. Then the Door to the South swung wide open.

Bingo! The HPV vaccine issue is petty and piddling. The real weakness of Rick Perry is right here.

195 Rush just said Barky's Bus Tour consists of three buses that the Secret Service has spent $3 million on.

As if King Putt will actually be riding on one, other than photo ops of him trotting down the steps at his stupid little events.

196 My problem with the HPV vaccine was how Perry attempted to impose it, and without really knowing how well it worked or how long.

He relented, after all.  I consider it a minor error compared to his long time in office and how it was resolved.  It's not hard to support Perry despite the few mistakes he's made.

197 Thanks for the second term, vaccine suckers!

198

So the HPV thing is the boogey man for Perry. When you all find the perfect candidate ... give us a shout down in Texas. Cuz things are going so well everywhere else ya know.

199 Here's what the CDC (which I hope is considered a thoroughly authoritative source about public health matters) says about HPV:

*by the Gods, has it gotten this bad that I have to link to this?*

STD Facts - HPV

That is all I will say in the matter.  There are more pressing issues than this minor HPV controversy, such as 1) The ongoing implosion of the US economy, 2) The deficit/debt problem, 3) Iran, so on and so forth.

200 What school district?

Austin ISD

201

If you want to really get under somebody's skin, point out their cold sores are Herpes (simplex).  I've read that 80% of the population is born with it.  I got lucky, and I'm in the other 20%.

Make that 99%....and most got it from their mother at birth. The 20% that you refer to are people that don't have recurring outbreaks of the cold sores. But 99% of the public carry the dormant virus 24/7. It's in the same class as Chickenpox. IE: a zostervirus. Which means you had the infection and eliminated the active virus but carry the dormant virus the rest of your life. In chickenpox a later outbreak is called "shingles". With Herpes Simplex (type 2) it's called a cold sore or fever blister. You may be lucky and don't get the sores but you're still likely a carrier of the dormant virus. If you're human that is.

202 The country is on the brink of falling off a cliff and people want to make a federal issue and essentially hand their vote to Obama out of some stupid vaccine that had an opt-out clause.

IOW- I don't get people.
Posted by: laceyunderalls

Sadder yet that some are complaining about a law that didn't become law.

Brilliant method of picking candidates for sure.

203 Is this seriously the debate we're having? Hahaha that's fine. Have fun.

204 Hey, is this the venereal disease thread?

205 "HPV is usually contracted through vaginal and/or anal sex. It is possible for it to be contracted through oral sexual contact. Direct skin-to-skin contact easily spreads the infection--the virus is not transmitted throuhg blood or body fluids. Actual intercourse with penetration is not necessary to transfer this infection."

Where's the casual contact in that mode of transmission?

Your epidermis is significantly different than the epithelium lining reproductive, urinary tracts, mouth, etc. 

If a person with HPV touches someone else casually, there is no transmission.  There have to be breaks in the skin, which - incidentally - happen all the time in the delicate linings of the areas described above.

I stand by my statement. 

206 HPV is that Hanging Pretty Valances?

Or did the subject of the thread change without me noticing?

207 211, I know, I was bragging on my home remodeling skills then POOF, all gone.

208 21 England's going to cut off the dole to their rioters.  Maryland police won't even investigate flash mobbery.  Is this the Obama/ACORN Police Dept.?

Posted by: RushBabe, Pitchfork Wielding Teahadist at August 15, 2011 11:03 AM (Ew27I)

You know what is really fucking scary about this incident is that this is not the "hood."  This is in one of the wealthiest counties in the country.  It's a good 15 miles or so from the DC city limits.  These "youths" were not terrorizing their own neighborhood.  They probably had to travel to get to this 7-11 in Germantown. 

209 Well, Lauren, Hep B is standard for newborns, so I would not put much stock in that vaccination requirement.

It is odd to see it at a school site, since Hep B vaccines are specifically singled out as additional vaccines for health care workers and folks who work with blood.  There must be a need to boost frequently.

210 Don't Mess With Texas' Economic Record

211 Any of you morons see the story in L'Independant noted by Mish, where Frog farmers attacked some trucks of produce coming from Spain, and dumped the contents all over the highway? Because Spain selling inexpensive produce to Frogs isn't sufficiently supportive of Frog inefficiencies, or is against the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, or maybe they are just hooligans.

212 38 last year. And before you ask I weigh about 340 pounds and am 6' 1". I could stand to lose about 100 to 120 pounds. Most people think I weigh 240 because I am so big. Yeah, I'll stick with increasing time. Are you on the elliptical to protect your knees? *damn kids*

213 If a person with HPV touches someone else casually, there is no transmission.

No, but as the link points out, penetrative sex is not required for transmission.  Teenagers, even "good" teenagers who aren't having vaginal sex, are probably going to have some genital contact. Ask a teenager today if a blowjob is sex. They'll say no.

214 BTW: Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

215 Are we arguing about a vaccine? Who gives a shit? Seriously. Can I eat a vaccine? No. Can I use a vaccine to pay my mortgage and student loan payments? No. WHO CARES? I swear to Allah we come up with the dumbest shit to get our panties in a twist about.

216 I'm not dispensing advice, merely suggesting alternate scenarios.  I am not concerned with manner of transmission.  I believe in prevention not punishment. I told you so   is a juvenile response.

217 These "youths" were not terrorizing their own neighborhood.  They probably had to travel to get to this 7-11 in Germantown. 

Posted by: Hedgehog at August 15, 2011 12:28 PM (Rn2kl)

No point to robbing the store in the 'hood.  Someone would recognize a few of them and turn them in for cash.  Not to mention the store in the 'hood probably has better security and less money available to steal.

218

ACK!!!!!!! If we are to find fault with Rick Perry, let's focus on the Mountain of Illegal Aliens, not the Molehills of Vaccines.

 

219 They probably had to travel to get to this 7-11 in Germantown.

I'd put money on it that there's a light rail line from the hood to Germantown. Thats what the youts use light rain in Minneapolis for mostly.

220 Ask a teenager today if a blowjob is sex. They'll say no. Thanks slick willy, of course our leaders aren't role models.

221

You know it really seems that Perry has pissed off/scared a lot of people.  I mean not only does he have the Ron Paul nutters going after him but he' also got all of Romney's fanboys doing conniptions too.  And that's really surprising since they aren't usually ones that do much attacking, and only get ticked off when you start picking on Mitt.  But Perry has them out wanting to just destroy his candidacy.

I like it.

222 213 21 It seems this is how it works in all the cities where these mobs are coordinating -- affluent areas. I'm sure it's just a coincidence though.

And speaking of MD, I wonder if those two girls were ever charged with a hate crime for beating down that tranny in the McDondalds?

223 Ask a teenager today if a blowjob is sex. They'll say no. I could live without sex.

224 You can hang drapes ... ?

Posted by: Honey Badger at August 15, 2011 11:59 AM (GvYeG)

And then they hang you.

225 Yeah, I'll stick with increasing time. Are you on the elliptical to protect your knees?

*damn kids*

Posted by: fluffy at August 15, 2011 12:29 PM (4Kl5M)

Pretty much, my brother is 6' 8" and over 500, his knees are largely toast.  I also did something to the tendon in my toe when I took a trip off the treadmill last spring so it hurts to run on it every day.

226 And I just wanted to echo the sentiments of the comment and photo in the sidebar that the asshole pictured should keep his feet off of a national treasure.  Sitting like this in my poor circles, has always been a sign of apathy and arrogance.  I think it just means he's an asshole.  Of course that conclusion is helped by about a gazillion other reasons as well.

227

At this point, is Michelle Bachmann our only hope?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 15, 2011 12:12 PM (ujg0T)

Not mine, I was for her until she stuck with her don't raise the debt ceiling under any circumstanses routine. While I would like to see the government cut by 1/3 it isn't going to happen overnight.

If she has some sort of super secret plan to make it happen then tell us about it, what she's going to cut, specifically. Until she does that I can't look at her as being serious. If she does do it then I will take another look.

Of course we don't have a primary here now so it really doesn't matter what I think.

228 And speaking of MD, I wonder if those two girls were ever charged with a hate crime for beating down that tranny in the McDondalds? Boy that event blew away like a popcorn fart. I too wonder.

229

You know it really seems that Perry has pissed off/scared a lot of people.  I mean not only does he have the Ron Paul nutters going after him but he' also got all of Romney's fanboys doing conniptions too.  And that's really surprising since they aren't usually ones that do much attacking, and only get ticked off when you start picking on Mitt.  But Perry has them out wanting to just destroy his candidacy.

I like it.

Start early, flame often.

I like it, too!

230 At this point, is Michelle Bachmann our only hope?

I love how we have every opportunity to demonstrate what happens when you elect someone with no executive experience but people want to put up a candidate that has... no executive experience.

Mindboggling, that.

231 It's really going to be hilarious to watch Mittens figure out that one of the reasons Perry is so popular is because he's an engaging speaker. Mittens is a boring robot so it'll be funny to watch him try to be more expressive. I have a feeling that it's going to lead to a serious blunder.

232 222 of course you don't care how it's transmitted because no one should be denied any type of gratification, sexual or otherwise in your lah di fucking dah world.... you don't want to get pregnant? don't have sex...don't want to get hpv? don't sleep around don't want hiv? don't have gay sex or sex with someone who has gay sex or someone who likes to stick needles in their arm.......i know....that's not fair and that's not hip and that's not reality....so if any of those things happen........I TOLD YOU SO IS WHAT THE ADULT SAYS TO THE CHILD AND TO THE ADULT THAT HAS THE MENTALITY OF A CHILD

233

Not mine, I was for her until she stuck with her don't raise the debt ceiling under any circumstanses routine. While I would like to see the government cut by 1/3 it isn't going to happen overnight.

If she has some sort of super secret plan to make it happen then tell us about it, what she's going to cut, specifically. Until she does that I can't look at her as being serious. If she does do it then I will take another look.

I guess everyone has their "principles vs. pragmatism" break point. Yours is budgets, mine is immigration. And no, I am not hostile to immigrants; I married one. But it's not hard to understand that illegal aliens are wrong on so many levels, and even legal immigration is subject to excesses and abuses.

234 I mean not only does he have the Ron Paul nutters going after him but he' also got all of Romney's fanboys doing conniptions too.  And that's really surprising since they aren't usually ones that do much attacking, and only get ticked off when you start picking on Mitt.  But Perry has them out wanting to just destroy his candidacy.
Posted by: jwb7605 at August 15, 2011 12:34 PM (Qxe/p)

Sure seems that way from the Perry threads here.

235 What could go wrong with a secret jihadi crypto-Democrat governor from Texas who wants to use your daughters for medical experiments and line the highways with illegal day laborers selling oranges in sacks and panties wrapped in the form of long stem roses? Not that I'm desperate or anything.

236 And speaking of MD, I wonder if those two girls were ever charged with a hate crime for beating down that tranny in the McDondalds? The heavy hitter plead guilty or was convicted recently. Last week, I think.

237 And I hate most that I'm sounding like Jeff B.

Damnitfuck.

238 Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 15, 2011 12:37 PM (eOXTH) I didn't even read the whole thing. Too much spittle.

239 Happy late Birthday Jane D'oh! I mostly lurk (mainly b/c I'm not witty enough) however, I did notice a request for a certain bumper sticker a few days ago. Designing things is what I do (in the liberal hell hole that is NYC). Behold, I present: "Rick Perry, bitches!" Coyote bumper sticker http://tinyurl.com/3pfyfsm

240 Sadder yet that some are complaining about a law that didn't become law.

Perry didn't sign a "law" requiring the HPV vaccine.  He signed an executive order requiring the HPV vaccine for girls entering the 6th grade.  After doing so.,  the whole state of Texas nearly took his head off because of that signature on the executive order.  So he signed a real law that that erased his executive order. 

And ever since, Rick runs around doing his very best Emily Litella impersonation whenever the subject comes up.

241 240 Deathknyte:
I didn't post that, although I don't disagree with the sentiment.

242 Rush is going off on the "Tea Party" popularity polls.  Have any of these polling firms ever done a popularity poll on Progressives?  I'd love to see that one.

243 243 And I hate most that I'm sounding like Jeff B.

Damnitfuck.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 15, 2011 12:38 PM (pLTLS)

Would you vote for her if she ended up being the nominee inspite of your efforts to get someone else?

244 Romney/PowerPoint 2012: Because Good Hair Is Just My Beginning

245 223 These "youths" were not terrorizing their own neighborhood.  They probably had to travel to get to this 7-11 in Germantown. 

Posted by: Hedgehog at August 15, 2011 12:28 PM (Rn2kl)

No point to robbing the store in the 'hood.  Someone would recognize a few of them and turn them in for cash.  Not to mention the store in the 'hood probably has better security and less money available to steal.

Posted by: Deathknyte at August 15, 2011 12:31 PM (rc+oL)

What's going to happen when someone busts a cap in some of these black thugs?  You just know that the reace mongers are going to be out in force demanding scalps.  The poor shooter is going to have legal bills out the butt and be tied up in courts for years.  It's a shame. 

246 Posted by: jwb7605 at August 15, 2011 12:40 PM (Qxe/p)

Ooops.

247

I love how we have every opportunity to demonstrate what happens when you elect someone with no executive experience but people want to put up a candidate that has... no executive experience.

Mindboggling, that.

I didn't say she was great. But if she understands that the GOP cannot win a Hispandering Contest, and is not so enamored with cheap gardeners and maids that she sees the blatant immigration problems we have, well, she has one up on Perry there. A ibg one at that.

248 And speaking of MD, I wonder if those two girls were ever charged with a hate crime for beating down that tranny in the McDondalds?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 15, 2011 12:31 PM (pLTLS)

In Baltimore county we don't fuck around.  That adult girl in the beating was sentenced to 10 years with 5 suspended.  The kid also went to a juvenile facility for a while.  Probably because the victim is in a protected group (GLT).

249 Posted by: Havedash at August 15, 2011 12:41 PM (sFD5n)

I know, its my biggest worry about us finally getting concealed carry here in Wisconsin.  The flahmobsters in milwaukee are suddenly going to find several of the white sheep just grew teeth.  Then the libs and dems (BIRM) are going to try and take away all effective means of defending yourself.  Again.

250 245 Rochelle, Rochelle http://tinyurl.com/3pfyfsm

I like the one that says "Be Proud of America Again"
IMAO that was Reagan's biggest accomplishment.

251 Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 15, 2011 12:37 PM (eOXTH)

Is that you, Dagny?

252 So he signed a real law that that erased his executive order. 

And ever since, Rick runs around doing his very best Emily Litella impersonation whenever the subject comes up.
Posted by: mrp

Right. No vaccine, no law. Nothing.

You are arguing about nothing. Way to go. You win.

253

What's going to happen when someone busts a cap in some of these black thugs?  You just know that the reace mongers are going to be out in force demanding scalps.  The poor shooter is going to have legal bills out the butt and be tied up in courts for years.  It's a shame. 

Posted by: Havedash at August 15, 2011 12:41 PM (sFD5n)

I bet that if a mob attacked the 7-11 near me the Sikhs in the back would come out guns blazing...  I'm amazed how many in that family are in the store all the time.

254

Now this is a f—king surprise.  Really.  Surprised – as in, “Oh, but doesnÂ’t this make them look like hypocritical assholes?”

255 But if she understands that the GOP cannot win a Hispandering Contest

Rick Perry, for all he's an immigration squish (compared to some, but not others), is not exactly a Hispanderer (which is a good word, btw).  Mostly he tries to avoid the topic (probably because he knows he's not as strong on the Border as some Texans would like him to be).  When he does get asked, he's fairly consistent: Secure the border first (I think we can all agree on this), there's a "pathway to citizenship" already (it's called: get in line), After the border is secure, in lieu of attempting to send 12+ million illegal immigrants back to their home nations, it might be worth it to set up some sort of (yes, I'll call it what it is) amnesty.

Its' that last point (which is kind of a combination of two points, really) where he starts to lose conservatives.  And, I agree, it's an issue for me, too.  But he's got the first two parts right- and that's a million times better than John McCain/Lindsey Grahamnesty and infinity times better than any Democrat.

256 http://tinyurl.com/3pfyfsm

Posted by: Rochelle, Rochelle at August 15, 2011 12:39 PM (mPxTr)

Jane is gonna love you!

257 Joy Behar is no longer eligible having just wed her boyfriend of 30 years. So, how many of you morons need to be put on suicide watch?

258 Joy Behar is no longer eligible having just wed her boyfriend of 30 years.

Why didn't someone tell me that Behar was a woman.

259 Would you vote for her if she ended up being the nominee inspite of your efforts to get someone else?

I will vote for anyone. Except for Ron Paul which I don't even worry about.

I just happen to think Bachmann is nuttier than a box of HoneyNut Cheerios.

Now with 10% more crazy!

But yes, even that nutterbutter would get my vote.

260 Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 15, 2011 12:42 PM (ujg0T)

In Eau Claire there used to be a ton of asian resturants, now half of them have been closed down and reopened as mexican resturants to cater to the illegals that have moved in.  There is even enough of them that a mexican food store has been doing well for several years now.

There is one mexican place that closes down every year and reopens with a new name.  A friend of mine says its to avoid reporting something to the government for tax purposes.  I wouldn't know myself.  I do know the food there is total crap.

261 Joy Behar is no longer eligible having just wed her boyfriend of 30 years. So. Bestiality has finally come to America.

262 266 Would you vote for her if she ended up being the nominee inspite of your efforts to get someone else?

I will vote for anyone. Except for Ron Paul which I don't even worry about.

I just happen to think Bachmann is nuttier than a box of HoneyNut Cheerios.

Now with 10% more crazy!

But yes, even that nutterbutter would get my vote.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 15, 2011 12:50 PM (pLTLS)

Then congratulations.  You don't sound like Jeff B.

263 For all your riot news, just google DailyMail. It will make you want to puke.

264 268 Joy Behar is no longer eligible having just wed her boyfriend of 30 years.

Is he deaf and blind?

265 Posted by: buzzion

Heh. Thank God for small wonders.

266

Its' that last point (which is kind of a combination of two points, really) where he starts to lose conservatives.

We have been baited and switched with promises of border security once too often.

267 For all your riot news, just google DailyMail.

I found topless shots of Heidi Klum. What was I supposed to be looking for again?

268 I found topless shots of Heidi Klum. What was I supposed to be looking for again? Precisely!

269 Hey, is this the blog where so-called conservative posters were swooning over Chris Christie just a few short months ago?

270 Rick Perry Be Proud Of America Again

I rarely do political bumper stickers.
I'm going to get that one.


The last time I felt that strongly about a message, my truck sported one that said "Sink Kerry Swiftly".  Glad I ordered a dozen of those ...

271 274, link?

272 278, Nevermind, I'm an Idiot.

273 This story is wonderful. A woman in Manchester blames the government for her 13 year old vandal.
From the story:
"She is on benefits, does not live with the boy's father and has 10 other children, the court heard."

http://tinyurl.com/3t9otuh

274 http://goo.gl/kTpb

275

Yobs generally refers to British soccer hooligans although has morphed to mean any hooligan.

Chav's (council housed and violent) is a more accurate description.

What the US welfare state calls public housing and its inhabitants "the projects," the British welfare state calls council housing, as it's supposed to be managed by local councils. Both are warrens of crime, drugs, prostitution, et al, but it's far more pervasive in Britain. 20% of British households live in council housing. Having everything paid for by the government, for any claimed disability including drug/alcohol addiction.

The Brits are fucked, but here in the US we have the 2nd amendment (outside the projects). Brits barely have the second amendment for the police, let alone the citizens.

276 268 Joy Behar is no longer eligible having just wed her boyfriend of 30 years.

So. Bestiality has finally come to America.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 15, 2011 12:51 PM (AZGON)

Hmm, reminds me about the gay marriage arguement...

277 EdMorrissey RT @PeterHambyCNN: Perry wastes no time going after Mitt: "Take a look at his record when he was governor and take a look at my record as governor."

278 Perry, Romney or Bachmann?

I will pick any of them over Obama, no matter what Pamela Geller says.

Besides, the only person she would probably vote for is Leonidas' corpse.

279 I just happen to think Bachmann is nuttier than a box of HoneyNut Cheerios.

Aside from the fact that I happen to liki Honey Nut Cheerios, in comparison to the current imbecilic idealogue, merely crazy would be a step up.  (Might even be what we need, but I've a fondness for 'Crazy Eddie' situations, admittedly.)

280 I found topless shots of Heidi Klum. What was I supposed to be looking for again?

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 15, 2011 12:53 PM (r0xbL)

OMG they looted her top!

281 Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 15, 2011 12:53 PM (ujg0T)

That's true.  And if it were just words, I'd be more worried than I am (call it 33% worried, at the moment) about his position.  However, he has done everything he views as being within his power to secure the border: he's order the National Guard (to the extent he can, he doesn't have absolute control) to the border, along with the Texas Rangers and the Texas Guard (Texas's own militia, basically).  Further, he championed the Sanctuary Cities bill which would have denied state funds to any city declaring itself a sanctuary city.  He championed and signed Texas's shiny new Voter ID law.

So he's not just words on it.  I still wish he were tougher on the border, but he's not a complete loss, either.

282 I'd like to know how much time looters will actually serve in the klink. Will a 6 month sentence amount to 30 days? I guess it's better than nothing.

283 Besides, the only person she would probably vote for is Leonidas' corpse.

I think I'd have a shot.

284 Obama is "happy to be out of Washington" lol We'll be even happier when you're our of Washington permanently.

285 Brits barely have the second amendment for the police, let alone the citizens.

I thought British cops were not allowed to carry guns.  Did that change?

286 The economy is bad due to circumstances outside my control...

287 So he's not just words on it.  I still wish he were tougher on the border, but he's not a complete loss, either.

From what I've observed (all 48 hours worth), at the end of it, he'll phrase amnesty in a way the nation will like, too.

Good thing or bad thing?

Discuss, class.

288 By the way, is it obvious yet that I am a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure?

289 HOLY SHIT.

JEF just blamed the tsunami.....AGAIN.

(He's blathering in Cannon Falls, MN.)  On Fox.

*pounds head on desk and grabs letter opener to ram in both eye sockets and ears*

290

294Brits barely have the second amendment for the police, let alone the citizens.

I thought British cops were not allowed to carry guns. Did that change?
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The have to call a special "armed response vehicle". I assume kind of like a US cop calling for a police dog.

291 294, Bobbys don't carry guns. However, back in the day, if you hurt a Bobby, you would be better off tickling a Tigers ass in a phone booth.

292 By the way, there is no perfect candidate, so stop searching. The idea is to beat Obama, not beat yourselves. So stop the gratuitous masturbation.

293 I want to live in this slum housing: http://goo.gl/iy9el Note, that they already had a 6 bedroom house but they wanted to be closer to friends or something. Hilariously, they are now in Stephen Fry's neighborhood.

294 Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 15, 2011 01:02 PM (UOM4 ---------------- It's like he's reading the same fucking speech word for word!

295 JEF just blamed the tsunami.....AGAIN. GWB greatly relieved.

296 "We've added over 2 million jobs in the last 18 months" (applause and squeals)

297 Just been perusing the thread.  Some of you need to get your priorities in order.  Sheesh!

298 Just had to make a run to downtown Austin. Saw my first Perry 2012 bumper sticker on the way.

299 He is so dreamy with his shirt sleeves rolled up.

300 the president is on fox, full campaign mode (shirt sleeves rolled up, no tie) getting "polite applause".  he's on CNN too and MSLSD but not on CNBC.

301 I can't wait to see the crowd.  Look for union shirts.

302 "Let's rebuild America" - Jesus does this actually work? He's such a tool. "Congress needs to move!" Wow.

303 I can't wait for the transcript of this, did he just blame congress for the lack of jobs?

304 I think I just broke my remote hitting the off button.

305 Congress can sell cars to Korea!!!! yippeeee

306 Just heard an Obama supporter being interviewed on the radio at the Magical Misery Bus Tour.  She's been out of work for 18 months and "doesn't understand why".  She blamed the Republican House for "not working with the President".

You really do have to suspend reality to be a Democrat these days.

307 From what I've observed (all 48 hours worth), at the end of it, he'll phrase amnesty in a way the nation will like, too.

Good thing or bad thing?

Discuss, class.
Posted by: jwb7605

Why would he have to? The only thing that matters now is quite literally is the economy, stupid. Playing around with immigration is not at the top of the list.

308 Everyone says you need an "infrastructure bank" in order to be a fully vetted "banana republic", why is he pushing this?

309 Damn, smells like cat pee all of a sudden.

310 Same shit different day. Even MSNBC cut him off.

311 On twitter: "I know people complain Obama gives the same speech, but if he does it seven more times he gets a free coffee at Starbucks" Oh-- "Government needs to live within it's means. There are programs that don't work that we need to stop funding" How about Obamacare you fucking fuck!

312 So he's not just words on it.  I still wish he were tougher on the border, but he's not a complete loss, either.

Border control and illegal immigration are very tough issues. It really is not as easy as "build a wall and round them all up and deport 'em". Never has been, never will be.

313 Why would he have to? The only thing that matters now is quite literally is the economy, stupid. Playing around with immigration is not at the top of the list.

You have no idea how much I long for the days when immigration was at the top of the list.

It seems to be at the top now, for several people on this thread.

314 Why would he have to? The only thing that matters now is quite literally is the economy, stupid. Playing around with immigration is not at the top of the list. The Economy is not a static, singular thing. I believe that illegal Immigration plays a large negative role in the Economy.

315 HE JUST BROUGHT UP BUFFET'S OP-ED TODAY!!!!! Holy shit. Unbelievable.

316 Re: Circular Firing Squad:
Exactly what did you think the Primary was supposed to be?  In the Primary process,we get to see what Republicans collectively think is more important.  I'm betting that Rick Perry's record beats Romneys (I certainly hope so), but it's possible the Illegal Immigration thing will be a bridge too far.  If that's where we are as a party, that's where we are as a party.

It might take me two heartbeats to vote for Romney over Obama (instead of the one or less it would take with all the others), but I would vote for any R (except maybe Ron! Paul! or Huntsman) over Obama.

And, never forget: when it comes down to it, Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

317 iowahawkblog David Burge Recommendations for Obama in Decorah, IA: taco pizza at Mabe's, ice cream at Whippy Dip, resign

318 I hope he gives this same speech every day on his magical bus tour.

319

Watching Dick on tv (muted, of course).  My parents warned me about people like him.  Sage advice.

320 And, never forget: when it comes down to it, Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

That should be taught using the same methods as when I learned "Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison" by rote in grade school.

321 I just turned him back on.  He's stammering like a jackass.  And he's making "rules" for asking questions.

Compare to Perry's question and answer period after his speech in Ames yesterday.

322 "Thank you for helping me believe that someone it will be good" person who identified herself as a "young voter" and asked about renewable energy and creating jobs.

323 Great news! Obama's back up to 41% approval on Gallup.

324 I wonder if they've paid any women to throw their panties at him.  Any fainting?  Just doesn't have the fawning audience he had in 2008.  Bet he's pissed because of it too.  I'd love to be on that bus to hear his remarks afterward.

325 Rush suggested someone sneak some bumper stickers on his (3) $3 mil. buses.

326 saw what looked like a newly made bumper sticker last night on the road during one of the brief periods when it wasn't torrentially  pouring.  It said "I'm barack's worst night mare.  (I thought it looked "home made" but it was effective.

327

he's order the National Guard (to the extent he can, he doesn't have absolute control) to the border, along with the Texas Rangers and the Texas Guard (Texas's own militia, basically).  Further, he championed the Sanctuary Cities bill which would have denied state funds to any city declaring itself a sanctuary city.  He championed and signed Texas's shiny new Voter ID law.

So he's not just words on it.  I still wish he were tougher on the border, but he's not a complete loss, either.

Is that better than Mitt? Tancredo endorsed Mitt in 2008. Hard to say.

328 Over 50% of the adult population has it, and it can cause serious issues for everyone involved.

Posted by: Lauren at August 15, 2011 12:14 PM (cVIY5)

I've never heard that one before, source?

329 1.1 miles in 15 minutes. If I can keep that up until next Sunday, should I up the resistance on the elliptical or add to time and try for 1.3 miles in 20 minutes?

Posted by: Deathknyte at August 15, 2011 11:53 AM (rc+oL)

Definatly more time.  More weight will make you stronger, and gain muscle mass... but without your cardio vascular system being in good shape it to support it, its a gamble.

Also, sounds like you are trying to get rid of weight?  The 'only' way to really get rid of weight is to change the balance between the amount of calories you eat (and what type), and how much you burn... and working out longer with less weight burns more calories than working shorter with more weight...

One of the best ways to loose weight is to find a sport you really enjoy, as it burns calories at somthing you WANT to do (I just got back form 8 days at an Elizabethan Fencing competition... lost 10 pounds which will be back by next week as my system gets back to equilibrium).

330 preebus is on CNN

331 Posted by: Romeo13 at August 15, 2011 01:28 PM (NtXW4)

I love fencing!  It's almost as good as swimming for giving you a whole body workout!

332

"For starters, we've cured polio."  In what universe?

We'd controlled polio exposure through mandatory vaccinations but we haven't cured ANY viral disease.  I think what the "what's the diff between HIV and polio" was trying to get at was that these are both viral diseases that can and probably should be controlled by vaccinations while young. 

333

Hmmm... an Obama bus tour...

Does that mean he will fly Air Force One to the city, meet the bus, do the campaign spot, then get back on Air Force One?

We need pictures...

334 It is estimated that up to 50-60% of sexually active female college students are infected with HPV at some point during their college years.

Is that where you got you 50% figure Lauren? Notice it's not all Americans....

335 347 Posted by: Romeo13 at August 15, 2011 01:28 PM (NtXW4)

I love fencing! It's almost as good as swimming for giving you a whole body workout!

Posted by: at August 15, 2011 01:31 PM (k1rwm)

LOL... and as Thor said in his recent movie...

We Drank, we fought... we made our Ancestors Proud...

Kyle Greywolf, Band of Black Tigers.. Pennsic 40

336 KG-

Here you go

337 NO, KG. I got it from the CDC.

Here's the quote : "HPV is so common that at least 50% of sexually active men and women get it at some point in their lives."

Also "The Lancet shows that approximately 50% of men from a sample of the general population are infected with the human papillomavirus."

338

One of the best ways to loose weight is to find a sport you really enjoy, as it burns calories at somthing you WANT to do (I just got back form 8 days at an Elizabethan Fencing competition... lost 10 pounds which will be back by next week as my system gets back to equilibrium).

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 15, 2011 01:28 PM (NtXW4)

Aerobic exercise is what burns fat, so yes, sports, jogging, jumping jacks, hell even walking works if you do it enough.

339 352 KG-

Here you go

Posted by: Lauren at August 15, 2011 01:39 PM (cVIY5)

And here is the relevant part:

Approximately 20 million Americans are currently infected with HPV. Another 6 million people become newly infected each year. HPV is so common that at least 50% of sexually active men and women get it at some point in their lives.

I don't think that equates to 50% of all Americans, still.

340 Happy Napoleon's birthday!

341 Anyway, not that it matters, it just didn't seem to make sense to me.

342

85 Meanwhile experts are warning the move could be expensive and difficult to achieve. Ian Mulheirn of the Social Market Foundation said: “It is really hard to identify people and remove their benefits in an automated system. Doing that is extremely expensive, and will cost more money than it saves.”

Uh ... here's an awkward question for young Mulheirn. What happens when someone dies? Does he stay on your vaunted automated benefits system forever?

Shithead.

343 What happens when someone dies? Does he stay on your vaunted automated benefits system forever? Why Yes, our diet of fish and seaweed do make us live to 140

344 354 - so how come beer and sex don't work?

345 I just cant stop reading this.  Its so cool, so full of information that I just didnt know.  Im glad to see that people are actually writing about this issue in such a smart way, showing us all different sides to it.  Youre a great blogger.  Please keep it up.  I cant wait to read whats next.