1 And yet here at OWS these miscreants proudly proclaim that's what they want others to do. They want the productive people in society to mark off blocks of hours, days, and weeks to use their time working for their own selfish ends.

Not surprising.  These people rape women after all.

2 Not surprising.  These people rape women after all.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 27, 2011 04:15 PM (FkKjr)

It's not RAPE rape.  It's just redistribution-of-sexual-wealth rape.  It wouldn't even be considered rape at all if not for the whole non-consensual and/or statutory stuff.

3 I like my job, but not so much that I'd do it for free.

4 Wait ... did I just see Ace advocate the Labor Theory of Value?

(Re-reads ...)

Nope. No mention that the time involved is worth the same. Phew.

5 I'm not sure if I completely agree. When I was in the middle of my navy career, I discovered that hot chicks dig a dude in uniform and determined my quest for a hottie to marry would be easier if I stayed in. Go figure my wife hates sailors and the uniform didn't help at all

6 OccuBanker

7 Defining money in terms of time is dangerous. It lends credibility to the Labor Theory of Value.

8 Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

9 Well said.

This is a simple point that can be used to bludgeon these fools at every opportunity. Unfortunately the Republican party, in its infinite wisdom, has allowed its own message to be co-opted by pretty much anyone except Republicans.

10 "There is a thing called greed."

Wow, profound, Mr. Marxist fuckknob. Check in the mirror, though, since every last twinkling OWSer displays it too. The only difference is those lazy fucks can't even be arsed to work for what they "greedily" desire, they just want it given to them.

11

They're into compulsory charity.  Well, as long as they're calling the shots on what is defined as "charity."

If anyone else defines it...meh, not so much.

Parasites.

 

12 Go figure my wife hates sailors and the uniform didn't help at all

Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 27, 2011 04:18 PM (A1uUz)

Probably the skirt that turned her off.

13 jeebus, it's like arguing with a half used bar of fucking soap.

14 When I was in the middle of my navy career, I discovered that hot chicks dig a dude in uniform and determined my quest for a hottie to marry would be easier if I stayed in.

Wen I was in the Navy it was at the height of the anti-military craze. You didn't wear your uniform anywhere off base except at very special occasions.

15 15 jeebus, it's like arguing with a half used bar of fucking soap.

Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at October 27, 2011 04:21 PM (6IReR)

At least the half used bar of fucking soap would be sanitary. 

16 14. It was the elephant thong I was wearing underneath the skirt. I should have gone commando that day

17 used bar of fucking soap.

Were you in the Navy?

18 He has all of the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire Winston 'I'll make you my bitch' Churchill

19 You have to hand to the protesters of the 60's and 70's. They realized that the government was the problem, these anarchists are protesting for more government.

20 Occupiers are the greediest animals on the face of the planet.

As usual with the Left, they project the vilest traits onto the rest of us that they themselves epitomize.

21 OWS GA Minutes

I posted this on the ONT last night, it's the OWS GA minutes from a meeting the other night

It comes across as a slacker hippie version of your garden variety Homeowners Association meeting

What are most of the requests for? Money for their "group" of  course from the OWS Financial group

Warning: Reading this will cause temporary IQ drops

22 I like it. "Hi hippie, How much of my time to I owe you today?"

23

anarchists are protesting for more government.

Anarchists are protesting for more government.????

Isn't that a little like fucking for chastity?

24

jeebus, it's like arguing with a half used bar of fucking soap.

If by soap you mean fecal matter, and by arguing you mean taking a dump, then yes. Exactly so.

25 >>>Defining money in terms of time is dangerous. It lends credibility to the Labor Theory of Value. Well I don't see that as in any way a necessary equivalency. Someone who is highly productive and efficient has time that is simply worth more money than some time-marker layabout. But the point is accurate: All money is a useful medium of exchange for exchanging, say, an hour of MY time for twenty minutes' of yours (or however our respective minutes wind up being cross-valued by each other).

26 Demanding that other people's money be forcibly taken and used for one's own priorities- that's not "greed"?

Yet to the OWS numbskulls, the desire to keep what one has earned for themselves is what real "greed" is.

27

Precisely.  Everything about this protest is about money.

They want to raise taxes (money) on rich (money) bankers (money).

They want the government to pay off their student loans for them.  What, exactly, were they loaned as students... puppies?  Unconditional positive regard?  I think they were loaned money.

Everything they say boils down to them wanting more money and not wanting to work for it.  Nothing more than materialism and petty jealousy.

F--king pinkos.

28 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

29 I think time is the wrong word there, Ace. Even effort would be wrong since you can put a whole lot of effort into something and have it turn it like shit. I think adding complication (or reducing entropy in a system) would be more apt.

30 if i'm not mistaken, Schiff predicted the 08 financial crisis long before it happened

31 sigh.  I'm bored with OWS.  let's investigate another scummy Congressman (like we did Weiner).  those were the good ol' days

32 I'm exchanging my time for what, exactly, when I read and comment on an AOSHQ post?

33 They want the simple things in life like iPhones, iPads, MacBooks, huge tattoos.... And I always think I spoil my brat...

34 You might well have the same discussion with a tapeworn.

35

Goddamnit Bevel! That was my first thought and you beat me to it.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 27, 2011 04:19 PM (OWjjx)

Great minds and so forth.  It seems pretty obvious actually.  Their goal is to take from a victim they destroy.  It is a movement of rapists.

36 They are a whole lot of people in Africa who think that 99% crowd look like the 1% to them. Maybe they should hand over all their shit to those even less fortunate. No? Really.. no? GREEDY FUCKS!

37

Isn't that a little like fucking for chastity?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2011 04:24 PM (sbV1u)

Exactly, it's amazing to watch.

38

I'm exchanging my time for what, exactly, when I read and comment on an AOSHQ post?

Self-esteem and boobeh jokes.

39 They'll tell you "But I want to work for a NON-PROFIT!!  That's different!"  They really believe a $250,000 salary at a non-profit is "clean money," whereas if you make the same $250k any other way, you are a greedhead.

40 Greed is bad. Give us your money.

41

Altruism? You just show up for your jobs, and would do so, whether paid or not, because you're dedicated to doing work on behalf of others?

One time at band camp while on one of those idiotic firm team building retreat things, the facilitator did this whole thing about how you should only work at a place if you loved it so much you'd do it for free.  Then it was go around the circle and discuss this.  Everyone else was doing the whole blah blah oh sure I'd do that here blah blah.  Then we got to me.  Being me, my response was "The day my paycheck doesn't clear is the day I stop coming here to work."  The facilitator looked like I'd kicked him in the balls.  He did some stammering attempt to rephrase what I said and I dug in my heels and repeated "I work for money.  They pay me.  I work for them.  When they stop paying me, I stop working for them.  What's wrong with that?"  My bosses looked like they wanted to slap me but I refused to back down.  To this day I don't see what's wrong with saying that I work for money.  I was raised that it's noble to do an honest day's work for an honest day's pay. 

(Paging Amish, paging Amish, I teed that one right up for you, please don't let me down)

42 Don't you want to pay lower prices for goods? NNNNOOOOOO!!!!!

43 Yup, these barbarians are not on a first name basis with the whole Quid Pro Quo thing. Why should you get stuff for free? If I give you stuff, can I get something in return? Like a promise not to do drugs, or you have to rake my leaves in the Fall? The answer to libs is always no. There is no quid pro quo, just give me your goddamned money because that's what they mean by social justice.

44 And yet the self-deluded, entitled OWS crowd are absolutely insistent on the idea that other people should spend large amounts of time working for the benefit of the OWS parasites.

Yeah, the same parasites that won't share donated food with the 'professional homeless' and ex-cons.

45 +300 on Wall Street today, these occupytards are really destroying the system/s

46 38, They are a whole lot of people in Africa who think that 99% crowd look like the 1% to them.

Winner

47 What's funny is that the OWS crowd is complaining about the hobos taking the free food "without giving back"

The park belongs to the hobos as much as it does the hippies, and until the hippies start paying rent to Brookfield, they're squatters with no more legal standing than the hobos

I say that we morons should march on OWS and demand equal treatment and freebies for the hobos

After all, a healthy hobo makes a prime trophy

48 Peter Schiff would absolutely be my #1 choice for president. I pay $5/mo to listen to his daily radio show; he is the MAN. Connecticut voters are morons for nominating Linda McMahon instead of him. Also, Schiff's a Jew who not only supports the "anti-semite" Ron Paul, but has worked for his campaign. These guys are true fiscal conservatives who would actually end the crony capitalism, balance the budget, and give Republicans a good name again.

49 #43 exactly. I don't live to work. I work to live.

50 It's as if the 10,000 years of recorded history don't exist for these idiots.  It really is the Year Zero for them.

51

After all, a healthy hobo makes a prime trophy

And tasty eating!

52 I want to have Peter Schiff's children.  I'm not sure how I'll pull that off though.

53 "But I want to work for a NON-PROFIT!! That's different!" Indeed it is. Your "job" consists of asking people for money to fund your non-profit. That's a productivity rating of zero.

54 I'm one of the 1% and I only pay 10% in taxes.
Would you pay 50%?
Yes.
Then do it. Write a check

55 I think the OWS movement is about to become history in the northern climes. I think the MFM media is going to drop them like a hot potato anyway. They have become a huge embarrassment for their sponsors.

56 Obama is leading this country to civil war.

57 At least the Huns could shoot a bow while on a horse.  I can't begrudge them burning a few thatched roof hovels with that kind of skill.

These little puds probably whine that WoW is too hard.

58 We work for the weekend.

59 Obama is leading this country to Republican civil war.

Can't forget that.

60

Peter Gibbons: Our high school guidance counselor used to ask us what you would do if you had a million dollars and didn't have to work. And invariably, whatever you'd say, that was supposed to be your career. So if you wanted to fix old cars, then you're supposed to be an auto mechanic.

....

Peter Gibbons: What would you do if you had a million dollars?

Lawrence: I'll tell you what I'd do, man: two chicks at the same time, man.

Peter Gibbons: [laughs] That's it? If you had a million dollars, you'd do two chicks at the same time?

Lawrence: Damn straight. I always wanted to do that, man. And I think if I had a million dollars I could hook that up, 'cause chicks dig a dude with money.

Peter Gibbons: Well, not all chicks.

Lawrence: Well the kind of chicks that'd double up on a dude like me do.

61 They have empathy booths!

Community watch is safer spaces, mental help which is now support, mediation, medics, and de-escalation/security. During the night, there are a lot of activities that are not supporting our movement. So we decided to take care of business, and we invite all of you to participate in the night watch. You can sign up at empathybooth@gmail.com or go to the empathy booth.

62 One constant among liberals is a complete lack of comprehension as to what charity is.

They regularly play the "you hate poor people because you don't want to pay more in taxes" card.  Yet, it's not charity if it's compulsory- an act of charity by definition has to be voluntary.

Voluntarily giving time and/or money to the unfortunate is a noble act; paying taxes out of fear of punishment isn't.

63

Connecticut voters are morons for nominating Linda McMahon instead of him.

while Schiff may have been better I wouldn't say they were complete morons. McMahon was a great candidate who almost pulled it out after that little switchero the Dems did w/ their candidate, making a total GOP gain a close Dem hold.

64 When I work -- when I work, sporadic though that is lately -- I do so primarily for money.

I thought it was for biological samples from Marco Rubio.

65

We work for the weekend.

Everybody's workin' for the weekend.

66 So you put up the O'keefe piece and then quickly it gets buried under two lesser stories?  Is anyone in charge of this boat?

67 Obama is leading this country to civil war.

Posted by: 1/1027th of a Janitor at October 27, 2011 04:32 PM (tazG1)

The guy is just totally fucked and we don't have anyone smart enough with a big enough voice to point that out to people.

The other day he said something to the affect that Americans weren't as creative and energetic as they were and that is why we are not creating jobs in the private sector.

Last year both he and his lovely bride were telling people not to take a job in the private sector but to work for a non profit or the government.

It boggles the mind that we don't have politicians or media on our side hammering him on this stuff. We don't though.

68

while Schiff may have been better I wouldn't say they were complete morons. McMahon was a great candidate who almost pulled it out after that little switchero the Dems did w/ their candidate, making a total GOP gain a close Dem hold.

Posted by: RINO Vice President For Life AuthorLMendez, Formerly YRM, Who Supports The Ban Of Curious at October 27, 2011 04:34 PM (yAor6)

McMahon lost by the same margin as O'Donnell to a man who faked his war record.  She was a disastrous candidate.

69 OK, which moron infiltrator did THIS!!!

Proposal: Hi Im george from sustainability. You may have seen us around, we are doing things to make our community less wasteful and more energy efficient and environmentally conscious. My proposal is for a bicycle generator system that me and my colleagues are working on at the

(guy yelling where is my 40 acres and my mule repeatedly)

70

It's as if the 10,000 years of recorded history don't exist for these idiots.  It really is the Year Zero for them.

Maybe they have a point. I mean about the zombie thing.

71 Peter has aged since his time with KISS.

72

62, I've been having a Peter Gibbons sort of crisis for the last year or so.

Hate my current gig with the fire of 1,000 suns. Not sure any other coding gig would be any better.

73

money is just a tool of exchange that gives you a claim to my labor and me a claim to yours.

It's was the next evolutionary step after the bartering system.

 

So these people are just making a claim to my labor without having to provide me anything in return.

 

 

 

 

74 The day my paycheck doesn't clear is the day I stop coming here to work.

No matter how much one loves their job we all still need to pay for other stuff we love. Your house, car, hobo hunting equipment, Valu-Rite...

So your answer is the only sane one that can be made. Though sanity is rarely attached to team building exercises.

75 Great post, ace. I'm often discussing this view of the SOLE utility of money: to allow you to spend your limited time the way you wish. My coworkers don't understand why I would spend $10 a day on the 407 toll hwy, when I could take the 403 hwy for free. Simple: because that's 20 minutes a day more I spend with my wife and kids. 100 minutes more a week. THREE AND A HALF DAYS more per year. Worth it? Maybe not to you. But now imagine you're 93 years old and on your deathbed. How much would you pay for another 3.5 days? And not days when you're 93. Days back when you were 38, your kids were young and innocent, and you had your whole life ahead of you? That's what money is good for. Try to explain that to a liberal. You can't. Because their time IS worthless. Because THEY are worthless.

76

I give Mr Schiff credit, I couldn't deal THOSE PEOPLE for more than a moment.

 

77 I'm so sick of the misuse of the word "greed" by these fuckheads. They don't know what it means.

Whenever I ask a lib "friend" to define greed, they invariably say "wanting more than you need". And who defines a person's "need", anyway? They do, of course! And by their definition, a person can be accused of greed for wanting more than a glass of water and a dry spot in a cave.

My definition of greed is "seeking the unearned", which can be applied to a dishonest businessman as easily as a welfare mooch, or a POS douchebag OWS cretin who wants something for nothing.

78

Try to explain that to a liberal. You can't. Because their time IS worthless. Because THEY are worthless.

In defense of the libs, if your only clothes were from the second-hand store and all you ate was vegetable matter, your life would be pretty worthless.

So you can sorta see their point.

 

79

Peter Schiff for President.

And Barack Obama is still a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

80

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 27, 2011 04:36 PM (FkKjr)

2010 Delaware Race: Coons 57% O'Donell 40% - GOP -17

2010 Conetticutt Race: Blumethal 55% McMahon 43% - GOP -12

I dont see where they match up

when the polls started McMahon was doen 30 points to Blummy, after his lie she fought back to cut into his lead

it's not Mcmahon's fault she lost that race, the voters accepted him even w/ his liying. They even elected a Dem Guv & Obama's approvals are in the 60s in the state. I doubt Schiff as awesome as he may be when fighting for the cause could have done better then her as far as winning the race.

Disastrous? hardly

81 O/T, Verom Serum has an article about a Tea Party group suing the city of Richmond to get back their $10000 fee for renting the park when they had rallies. They are claiming discrimination, since the OWS crowd did not need fees or permission. I don't know how to link with this IPAD, but it is interesting. This should be done by all Tea. Party groups.

82 #78 EOJ I was waiting for the funny snark and I got thoughtful insight instead. I'm good.

83

Well, Linda McMahon had one thing that Peter Schiff didn't.

Well, she had about 20 million things that Peter Schiff didn't.

heh

84 I think the OWS movement is about to become history in the northern climes.

Yeah, the weather forecast is looking pretty grime for the next couple of days in the NE. Overnight frost warning tonight, possible wet snow Saturday into Sunday. Nothing makes lefty more uncomfortable then not being able to walk over to the thermostat in moms basement and kick it up 10 degrees.

Posted by: Unindicted Co-Conspirator at October 27, 2011 04:39 PM (IhHdM)

I'm in SW CT and it's been cold and raining here all day.  Every time I take the dog out I smile thinking about what it must be like in Zuccati park.

85 I don't think he should have allowed them to misrepersent themselves as anything but anti capitalist. They are commie extremist and dumb as dirt.

86 Simple: because that's 20 minutes a day more I spend with my wife and kids. 100 minutes more a week. THREE AND A HALF DAYS more per year. Worth it? Maybe not to you.

Yeah, not to me, bro. I would pay $10 a day to spend LESS time with my family.

87 Ahhhhh a reminder of a favorite acronym ... it just rolls off the tongue ... FYNQ!!!

88 Once again, trying to understand the rationality of irrational people. I'd rather do math.

89 For a high-school project, one of my brothers wrote a parody commercial for the late 80's version of the Televangelists (Robert Tilton, etc.).  "Brother Bucks" believed that that color of the Devil was green, and that if you would just give him all your green you would be pure and sinless.

That parody was more believable than these parasites.

90 That's right officer, I was only paying the young lady "for her time."

91 It's as if the 10,000 years of recorded history don't exist for these idiots.  It really is the Year Zero for them.
---
When I read those stories about how the OWS-ers are dealing with the monumental problems like drumming and food I figure it's Week Zero or even Day Zero for them.

92 Go and do likewise, gents. The money's out there, you pick it up, it's yours. You don't--I have no sympathy for you. You wanna go out on those sits tonight and close, close, it's yours. If not you're going to be shining my shoes. Bunch of losers sitting around in a bar.

93 That's right officer, I was only paying the young lady "for her time." "for a massage"

Posted by: wooga at October 27, 2011 04:45 PM (vjyZP)

FIFY

94

2010 Delaware Race: Coons 57% O'Donell 40% - GOP -17

2010 Conetticutt Race: Blumethal 55% McMahon 43% - GOP -12

I dont see where they match up

Perhaps you should look at the vote totals again.  It's a double-digit loss.  Especially bad when you consider Blumenthal's cash and the weakness of her opponent (and the craziness of O'Donnell and how her defeat was preordained).

Disastrous? hardly

I think tremendously.  McMahon wasn't a serious choice.

95 That's why commie-izm always begins with the eradication of history.

96

90, hate it for you.

Had an impromtu get to know you sit down with the new boss as they've reorged us here.

During the discussion he used the phrase "your work defines you".

I should have said "no, being a responsible, self-sufficient citizen and raising my children to be the same defines me". But it was early and I hadn't had enough coffee.

97 Time for a Milton Friedman-style intellectual hippie beatdown.

Greed.

98

I think tremendously.  McMahon wasn't a serious choice.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 27, 2011 04:46 PM (FkKjr)

do you really think Schiff could win in a state that gives Obama more love then RHODE ISLAND in it's polls? That elects Dems in a GOP landslide year?

I would say seriously not, unfortunate for CT who desreves better then their current crop

99 Supposedly their "Comfort Group" is asking for donations of space heaters, bio-diesel generators, tents, and warm clothing so they can "brave the cold"

If it's 20 and dry they can. If it's a Nor'easter blowing 30 mph winds with 35 degree rain there's no way they stay warm

Here's a Google page of the park with maps

Thought it would be bigger, it's barely an acre

100

O/T:

In the midst of a Rolling Stone hit job on Rick Perry by Matt Taibbi, there is this delightful comment...

“One of the all-time great marketing scams, a breathtaking high-wire act by a man who if nothing else certainly has the gigantic balls required for the most powerful job in the world.”

Which is true enough, I guess....

101 Yeah, not to me, bro. I would pay $10 a day to spend LESS time with my family. No problem. Then you use some of your money for that purpose. - Divorce lawyer - Child support - Alimony - Age-inappropriate girlfriend - Cocaine - Bacon - Bacon-flavored cocaine The hard part is figuring out how you really want to spend your time. Family man or desperately aging wannabe-cocksman, you only get so much of it. That's why these motherfuckers need to keep their hands off my stack. I gots shit to do.

102 "But I want to work for a NON-PROFIT!!  That's different!"

Yeah!   A non-profit can pay salaries up to $700,000 and with General and Administrative (G&A) overhead up to 70%!  Much better than those evil for-profit corporations with you know, all that icky accountability to shareholders and stuff.

103 I propose a new "Godwin's Law"-esque rule: any time a lib invokes the word "greed" they automatically lose. Even if they could accurately define the word, they certainly cannot measure it or enforce against it.

104 Men like Schiff and Breitbart...men not afraid to go in to battle against the violent hordes alone armed with nothing but their minds, the truth and heart... If I had ten divisions of those men, our troubles here would be over very quickly...

105 Wal-Mart doesn't put a gun to your head. "Liberals" do.

106 Any day now, they'll start planning #OccupyKeyWest -- if they can get mom to front the airfare. I think I'd prefer they #OccupyVicsBackYard, myself.

I'll take #OccuppyVicsFrontPorch.

107 I was raised that it's noble to do an honest day's work for an honest day's pay. 

Posted by: alexthechick at October 27, 2011 04:27 PM (VtjlW)

I'm not sure that it's noble, but it is the right thing to do.

108 Wal-Mart doesn't put a gun to your head. "Liberals" do.

I'm stealing this, oh yes.

109 Posted by: RINO Vice President For Life AuthorLMendez, Formerly YRM, Who Supports The Ban Of Curious at October 27, 2011 04:49 PM (yAor6)

Well, it's not like McMahon worked out any better.  Let's not pretend she somehow made it close.  She didn't.

110

"Profits are produced when you alienate someone from their own labor."

This from the tool currently on Hannity.

The job was exploitative. Profits are produced by "alienating" you from your labor.

What the fuck does that even mean?

111

I don't think Linda ever had much of a chance. What Peter lacked in campaign cash he made up for w/ brains and debate skills. In a general election debate against Blumenthal, Schiff would have run circles around him. Remember when Blumenthal claimed he created a bunch of jobs as Attorney General, as a result of all his lawsuits and prosecuting against the citizens of his own state? If the war lies didn't do him in, that idiotic claim should have. Schiff would've gotten all the independents and non-Marxists to vote for him; he just needed the name recognition that comes from a primary win. He was also willing to invest more of his own money if he made it to the general.

85: That's awesome that Tea Party groups are suing for discrimination. Completely unfair that OWS gets to occupy for free but Tea Parties were charged rental fees. Love it.

112 Isn't that a little like f*cking for chastity?

Don't drag me into this.

113 Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2011 04:56 PM (rmDVL)

I'll tell you what it means. It is from a man named Karl Marx. It is a screed against the additional profit made by the owner of the business from someone else's labor . Any excess profit  violates Marx's theory of labor.

114 Just got back from doing some errands (you know, spending MY money in support of greedy businessmen).  Why are we constantly giving these obviously stupid losers the time of day.  I guess they are worth the daily snicker.

115 You wanna see greed? Wait until these OWS lice try to figure out how to split up the $500,000 'fairly'

116

Well, it's not like McMahon worked out any better.  Let's not pretend she somehow made it close.  She didn't.

from -30 to -12, i'd say she did a good job

I think Schiff would have made the same type of comeback but also come up short, CT has showed signs of going further to the left then even some of it's Dem controlled neighbors

117 When I work -- when I work, sporadic though that is lately -- I do so primarily for money.

Hit the tip jar, Morons!

118 Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2011 04:56 PM (rmDVL)

Oh, I went to Cal-Berkeley, and had many, many altercations with the idiots from the RCYB and the other communist organizations in the Bay Area. I have heard all of their nonsense.

119 >>- Age-inappropriate girlfriend
- Cocaine
- Bacon
- Bacon-flavored cocaine
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 27, 2011 04:52 PM (l9zgN)

_{Where did you say that toll road was again?}

120 Who is greedier?  The rich man or the man who covets his wealth?

121 in the end I think the academics are going to regret drawing attention to the fact that their product is something people aren't willing to pay for any more, whether it's the low quality or the outrageous price.

122 Who is Peter Schiff? Seriously.

123 Men like Schiff and Breitbart...men not afraid to go in to battle against the violent hordes alone armed with nothing but their minds, the truth and heart... If I had ten divisions of those men, our troubles here would be over very quickly...

Ten Divisions!, give me ten divisions of Kentucky rednecks and the trouble won't even have begun - until the drinking starts.

124

I'll tell you what it means. It is from a man named Karl Marx. It is a screed against the additional profit made by the owner of the business from someone else's labor . Any excess profit  violates Marx's theory of labor.

So who opens a business or provides innovation?

125 I'll tell you what it means. It is from a man named Karl Marx. It is a screed against the additional profit made by the owner of the business from someone else's labor . Any excess profit  violates Marx's theory of labor.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at October 27, 2011 04:58 PM (UYLrj)

Entrepreneurial labor is no less labor than intellectual labor.  The kind that #OWS kids are trying to sell employers.

And Marx was truly an imbecile.

126

General Elizabth Warren: "Occutard #1, What is best in life?"

Occutard #1: "Some tasty waves and a cool buzz, and I'm fine."

General Elizabeth Warren: "Wrong! Occutard #2, what is best in life?"

Occutard # 2: "I agree with Occutard #1."

General Elizabeth Warren,( to herself, as she facepalms herself  : "When this is over, I'm going to send the Marauding Bands to torch their tents."

127 Why is it all of these liberal harridans all look the same? Do they choose be unattractive and frumpy or were they born that way?

128 FYNQ!!!

129

Entrepreneurial labor is no less labor than intellectual labor. 

Someone has to provide either an idea or capital to start to provide a good or service.

Do we know if Marx was an opium freak?

130 my favorite Marx related trivia is that Engels left $4 million to Marx's daughters when he died. How the fuck did that capitalist hoarder have $4 million?

131 120 You wanna see greed? Wait until these OWS lice try to figure out how to split up the $500,000 'fairly' Posted by: The Schwalbe : © at October 27, 2011 04:59 PM

That's what the "Financial Group" of their little Politiburo does. What'll be fun is finding out who pocketed the money after all is said and done

BTW, Portland OWS is in a snit because their organizers applied for incorporation with the state of Oregon

132

My definition of greed is "seeking the unearned", which can be applied to a dishonest businessman as easily as a welfare mooch, or a POS douchebag OWS cretin who wants something for nothing. posted by weew

Thank you - perfect description.

133 I can only watch so much of that shit before I barf

134 Peter Schiff? Never heard of him

135

>>"Profits are produced when you alienate someone from their own labor.

What the fuck does that even mean?

"Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2011 04:56 PM (rmDVL) 

That 's what Stalin did to the Ukrainians. The NYT didn't think it was fit to print though, even if Duranty got a Pulitzer at about the same time for some epic knob polishing.

136

Marxism: 0% success rate and still trying.

137 Why is it all of these liberal harridans all look the same? Do they choose be unattractive and frumpy or were they born that way?

They all look the same because they want to express their individuality by being "different".

138 Profits are produced when you alienate someone from their own labor. What the fuck does that even mean? "Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2011 04:56 PM (rmDVL) That and much of the other shit I heard comes directly out of some "professors" ( and I use that term loosely ) commie bastard mouth at some commie bastard University or College.

139

Entrepreneurial labor is no less labor than intellectual labor.  The kind that #OWS kids are trying to sell employers.

And Marx was truly an imbecile.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 27, 2011 05:02 PM (T0NGe)

 

Ah.  Nothing like reclining on the couch at home thinking productive thoughts. 

Isn't that bitch home from work yet.  I need a beer.

And Marx was an evil embecile.

140 That's what the "Financial Group" of their little Politiburo does. What'll be fun is finding out who pocketed the money after all is said and done

You mean what is left after the union bank gets its cut?

141

So who opens a business or provides innovation?

Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2011 05:02 PM (rmDVL)

Your eight word question is all that is needed to puncture the Marxist bubble.

It is so fucking obvious that it is difficult to take seriously the people who believe this tripe. But that would be very dangerous!

142 Marxism: 0% success rate and still trying.

This time they'll use iPads.

143 Is that a young OJ Simpson in that video? How much time should I spend working to pay for the dapper shirt he's wearing?

144

Money equals STORED ENERGY.  My energy expended on behalf of my employer, is reimbursed  with money.  People who are REALLY rich have expended more energy than I do - I'm just middle class comfortable - because I value hanging out with my family, working with my church, etc... where a really rich guy might have the energy (brains? nerve?) to have taken risks I wouldn't because I want a balanced life.

The kids at OWS aren't employable because they have no energy to expend on some employer's behalf.  Or, maybe they have the energy, but can't focus it in ways that would benefit the employer.

That my employer keeps a bunch of money for himself is OK with me, since I don't really want to expend my energy on that sort of risk, and he does.

Susan Lee

 

145

Why is it all of these liberal harridans all look the same? Do they choose be unattractive and frumpy or were they born that way?

I've always said that the defining characteristic of the liberal woman was a complete disdain for haircare products of any type - including brushes and combs.

Glad to see the theory is still strong.

146 Peter Schiff was on Survivor?

147

And Marx was truly an imbecile.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 27, 2011 05:02 PM (T0NGe)

I remember reading him and thinking that there was something profound that I was missing, because no sane person would believe the bullshit.

But I didn't miss anything. It is an irrational, emotional creation that preys on those who need an explanation for the inherent unfairness of life, but don't want to buckle down and work.

148 Posted by: alexthechick at October 27, 2011 04:27 PM (VtjlW)'

I pissed off my sister when I suggested to her that she not try and find a job she loved, but instead find a job that she could stand to do for twenty years, and that paid well enough that she could do what she loved as a hobby.

149 @ Sean Bannion, Don't forget the unshaven pits, legs and enough unwashed pooter-stink to knock a buzzard off a shitwagon.

150 I pissed off my sister when I suggested to her that she not try and find a job she loved, but instead find a job that she could stand to do for twenty years, and that paid well enough that she could do what she loved as a hobby. Posted by: Alex at October 27, 2011 05:14 PM (e/SJC) My sister did that. She got a job teaching, became a super liberal, and as a hobby pissed me off every chance she could get.

151

I pissed off my sister when I suggested to her that she not try and find a job she loved, but instead find a job that she could stand to do for twenty years, and that paid well enough that she could do what she loved as a hobby.

Is this the sister who could make some serious scratch as an interpreter but doesn't want to polish her skills?

Someday she'll wonder why her health care plan sucks, then you can refer her to this point in time.

152 They all look the same because they want to express their individuality by being "different".

It's like goths, "We reject conformity by all of us dressing in a single color"
Hippies "We reject conformity in that we all agree to not shower or groom ourselves."

Apes groom hippie, do they have a  problem with oppressive societal norms? Or is it just a good idea?

153 Greed is good.

154 Know what? Life's not "unfair". Life is life. You know what else? If you govern yourself with knowledge gained by the vastness of the genertions before you about what works or does not, things turn out pretty well. Sometimes there is a tragedy like an accident or a disease but life is mostly good if you do what you're supposed to. Doing the right thing gives you freedom.

155

I was reminded of the beginning of the movie 2001: A Space Odyessey.

156 Best. Occupation. Ever.

157 I was reminded of the beginning of the movie 2001: A Space Odyessey. Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Racism Identifier at October 27, 2011 05:17 PM (tcSZb) I hear ya. Some of them monkeys were pretty hot

158

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 27, 2011 05:15 PM (XE2Oo)

Perhaps even more amusing is bald liberal guys with ponytails.

That's a classic.  Never fails to get a laugh.

Fight the man!  Power to the follicularly-challenged!  No hair!  No peace!  no hair!  No peace!

159

We work for the weekend.

Everybody's workin' for the weekend.

We wake up every morning to the alarm clocks warning

take the 8:15 into the city.

160

Doing the right thing gives you freedom.

Exactly.

Also, a cornerstone of successful religions.  (As opposed to say, Islam.)

161 take the 8:15 into the city. Posted by: Alex at October 27, 2011 05:18 PM (e/SJC) If your taking the 8:15 into the city, your gonna be real late for work unless that's 8:15 PM

162

Know what? Life's not "unfair". Life is life. You know what else? If you govern yourself with knowledge gained by the vastness of the genertions before you about what works or does not, things turn out pretty well. Sometimes there is a tragedy like an accident or a disease but life is mostly good if you do what you're supposed to. Doing the right thing gives you freedom.

Up-twinkles for this.

163 I mean, seriously.  When do they start policing themselves and stop letting the complete idiots make fools of themselves for youtube fodder?

Doesn't ANYONE at the OWS thing have ANY brains or PR intelligence?  AT ALL!?!?!?!?

_{I know I know......}

164 Perhaps even more amusing is bald liberal guys with ponytails. Ah, yes. The "skullet."

165

Is this the sister who could make some serious scratch as an interpreter but doesn't want to polish her skills?

Someday she'll wonder why her health care plan sucks, then you can refer her to this point in time.

Indeed, I plan to.

166 Bu, bu, but one guy brought up slavery! He totally won that conversation!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!

167

Know what? Life's not "unfair". Life is life.

To quote my HS History Teacher, one Gerald Gayer,

"Nowhere in the Constitution will you find the word 'fair.'  Go ahead, look it up, I'll wait."

God Bless you, Mr Gayer, wherever you are.

168

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at October 27, 2011 05:13 PM (UYLrj)

Any system in which you admit you must change human nature, is doomed to fail.  We are at our best when embracing who we really are, not who some other person says we should be....

The stress of trying to go against our own nature... the stress of living in a society which disaprooves of natural feelings (built in by God, or Evolution) drives people nuts.

Marx even talked about society forcing the evolution of Man... and note the epic failure of Marxism.

Next up?  The feminisation of Men... and multiculturalism....

169 If your taking the 8:15 into the city, your gonna be real late for work unless that's 8:15 PM

Nah.  If the train's on time we can get to work by 9.

170

Ace, you're exactly right.   For most of us, time is money.   We sell our precious time for money in a free exchange.   Our employer is willing to give us the fruits of his labor (his time, his money) for some of our time.   We, in turn, buy things with our money, things that have taken someone else time to make, package, deliver, sell.  

So, when the government taxes us, they are really saying that, for X percentage of your time spent working, you were the government's slave.    Put that way, taxing a "rich" person at a higher rate than a "poor" person is truly immoral, because what the government is saying is that we are going to take 50% or so of every minute of every day you work and declare that you were our slave during that time.  

We have the meme of "tax freedom day" every year, and every year it creeps further out into April.    But for some of us, the "rich," that day might be in June or July.   We ought to call those months, "government slavery days."   Is it really "fair" to make someone a slave for six months a year?

171 God Bless you, Mr Gayer, wherever you are. Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2011 05:21 PM (sbV1u) And "Good night, Mrs. Calabash, wherever you are."

172 <b>A comedy sketch from the headlines: Imagining how it all went down:</b>

<b>Van Jones:</b> Okay, ideas anybody.

<b>Professor #1:</b> I think I could get some of my hippie students and their friends to protest Wall St.

<b>Professor #2</b> Great idea, I'm going to text some of my students from my iPhone and tell them they should be protesting evil corporations whose products are made in China and sell stock on Wall St.

<b>ACORN:</b> We'll have our people there, they might get rowdy and create a mess but they'll be there shilling for Obama.

<b>Van Jones:</b> Excellent!

<b>Andy Stern:</b> I can get some of my people there.

<b>Trumpka:</b> Me too.

<b>JournoList:</b> Hold back boys we wouldn't want it to look like astroturf.

<b>Debbie Dolberman:</b> Once the MSM sets the narrative about how spontaneous and grassroots the OWS crowd has sprung up we could get Nancy and Barrack to comment on it.

<b>Nancy:</b> Okay.

<b>Tumpka:</b> ThatÂ’s the cue for us to come in Andy.

<b>Van Jones:</b> Excellent. A very productive meeting on this one. We wouldn't want another CBS incident. Has anyone admonished CBS and that reporter yet?

<b>Nancy:</b> My husband and I need a distraction

<b>Al Sharpton:</b> When will we tell them it should be about redistributing the money?

<b>Bill Keller:</b> I'll start setting the narrative that the Tea Party is finished.

<b>Charlie Rose:</b> I'll coincide with that and and call OWS a growing phenomenon.

<b>JournoList:</b> Once all that's rolling we'll keep pounding the talking points.

<b>Harry:</b> I'll prevent the Senate from voting on the Barrack's jobs Bill while all this is going on. I'll need help blaming Republicans since the bi-partisan support is against us.

<b>JournoList:</b> No problem and no different than business as usual.

<b>Al Sharpton:</b> Money...when will we tell them it should be about redistributing the money?

<b>David Axelrod:</b> Al follow my cue and then organize. Barrack will say "Republicans Don't Want A Place Where People "No Matter What They Look Like" Can Succeed”

<b>Nancy:</b> I will stir up their passions with stuff like theyÂ’re voting to let women die on the floor.

<b>JournoList:</b> Great idea Nancy. That one helps get out the feminist vote every time. Women like "shiny things".

<b>Whoopi:</b> I can tell women George Bush er....Republicans want to steal their uteruses.

<b>Sean Penn:</b> Garofalo and the rest of us will set the meme the Tea Party is the "Get The N-Word Out Of The White House Party".

<b>Bill Maher:</b> Excellent Sean! Most excellent! I will call Cain and republicans racist and poke fun at them.

<b>Al Sharpton:</b> I will add to the meme: "We Will Get The Jobs Bill Done In The Street".

<b>David Axelrod:</b> Excellent guys. The WH messaging will be OWS "Will Be An Issue In This Campaign".

<b>Valerie Jarret:</b> We need to crush the idea MLK would have supported Cain. Barrack will tell the people at the ceremony that MLK Jr. Would Have Supported Occupy Wall Street.

<b>Lawrence OÂ’Donnell:</b> I will imply a brilliant man like Cain should have been drafted, or perhaps volunteered to be considered a patriot  - rather than work for the Navy in a private capacity on rocket science where the Navy wanted him solving problems on an important project. I can also push the meme that heÂ’s an Uncle Tom for thinking for himself and unlike 90%+ of African Americans. I will do this from atop my white horse. Perhaps MSNBC should hire Al to provide me cover.

<b>Al Sharpton:</b> ThatÂ’s what I do, I know how to crack the whip on those who dare leave the Democrat plantation. How much are they going to pay me?

<b>Van Jones</b> Shut up Al! One last thing. Can you JournoList within the press corpse please keep ignoring the Fast and Furious scandal.

<b>WH Press Corpse</b> Indeed!

<b>JournoList</b> We concur, and donÂ’t worry Nancy. Tell your husband too.

<b>David Axelrod:</b> Once all this is rolling Barack will hop on the bus and hit the road with the standard organizing talking points like “GOP Wants "Dirtier Air, Dirtier Water, Less People With Health Insurance”.

<b>Martin Bashir</b> David, I’ll follow your lead with “Cain Doesn't Want To Be "Associated With African-Americans.”

<b>Comrade Brzezinski</b> I‘d suggest a Bolshevik type appraoch like “Make Rich Known Publicly To Pressure Them To Give Back”

<b>Eugene Robinson: </b> I call my meme "Defend Wall Street" and go with the theme is not likely to be a winning campaign slogan in 2012. For Republicans, this is an obvious problem.

<b>Van Jones:</b> Very productive people. I mean that..

<b>Bernie Sanders:</b> We Need To Address The Issue Of The Rich Getting Richer

<b>Lawrence O'Donnell:</b>  I'd like to add Republicans still don't have a jobs plan, theyÂ’ve never had a jobs plan because Republicans are lying liars that lie even when lying about lying thatÂ’s the kind of liars the lying liars are.

<b>Rachel Maddow:</b> I’ll push this one “Republicans vote against employing more teachers and first responders” and since we believe the American people are too stupid to figure out the locals already pay taxes to cover those type of things in their cities.

<b>Van Jones</b>  Very good Rachel.

<b>Al Franken:</b> And also remember we are good enough, smart enough and gosh darn it, people like us. We are wonderful people.....just ask us.

<b>Rachel Maddow: </b>  IÂ’ll also go with Republicans think poor people are scam artists.

<b>David Axelrod: </b> Excellent Barack will use the standard Alinsky playbook on his bus tour which we can film for campaign ads. Barack will also tell the people not to believe their lying eyes and that all the choices he made were the right ones. IÂ’ll try and keep a straight face and plant a seed that the election is going to be a close one.

<b>Debbie Dolberman:</b> I will project all our demagoguery onto republicans.

<b>E.J. Dionne:</b> IÂ’ll add that: Operation Wall Street Is "Disciplined," Has "Wonderful Signs"

<b>Michael Moore:</b> Will Barrack be using the styrofoam columns again? I will make a documentary of all this with a similar name as my <b><i>Fifth</i></b> but IÂ’ll call this one  "Bowling for  <b><i>Column</i></b>like."  

173

Posted by: nevergiveup at October 27, 2011 05:24 PM (i6RpT)

You're showing your age.  ;-)

174 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

175 In fairness, I think the protestors aren't asking to get money for nothing. I think they are working under the flawed economic theory that the total economy is an un-expanding pie and people who make lots of money do so at their expense.

176 Ace is wasting his efforts and time on this, as are the morons echoing him. OWS wants attention. It feeds and multiplies off attention. Attention addicts like "Joe the Plumber" and Donald Trump are now out there saying supportive things about OWS and its participants. Obama says something supportive about OWS every day, like it's on his daily White House agenda right up there with national security briefings. Media blogs are spending huge parts of their daily space on OWS. Not even one of the top 58 U.S. news media organizations in the Pew Foundation NCI list fails to have at least one story every day on OWS, almost always parked at or near the top of its top stories. Ace wants it to stop, to be stopped, to go away, to have Peter Schiff "reason" it away, but to do that he has to talk about it, repeatedly, every day: and OWS just feeds off that and multiplies. Ask yourself why that is. Don't ask Ace; he doesn't know any more than any other blogger or pundit or analyst. I don't claim to know why; I have an idea, but OWS runs on many ideas. Every time I incorporate those ideas, more ideas come along and it grows again. My idea is that for those directly involved in OWS, they want to do something that makes them feel involved in something important having to do with where this country is now and where it's going, and for them there is simply no more compelling thing to do than demonstrate with OWS. Look at the videos of interviews with OWS types: it's obvious that's what they think. If you think you can come up with some other more compelling thing for them to do that gives them that feeling, go ahead and tell us all about it, tell THEM about it. I don't think you can, and I bet they don't think so either. Whatever it is they're after, they're going to win.

177 In other words, when the guy brings up slavery in arguing with Schiff, he's got it 180 degrees wrong.   Government ended the enslavement of African-Americans by individual white property owners.   But, viewed simply from the perspective of who controls the fruits of the individual's labor, Government has perpetuated slavery of all of us through taxation. 

178

How do you piss of a liberal?

Exist.

179 >>Doing the right thing gives you freedom.

And doing the left thing diminishes it.

180 Whatever it is they're after, they're going to win. Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 27, 2011 05:25 PM

And if they do, they might or might not know what to do with it

Thanks for wasting 30 seconds of my time I'll never get back

181 You're showing your age. ;-) Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2011 05:25 PM (sbV1u) Yeah but it gets me to the next age level on the PRT

182

If you think you can come up with some other more compelling thing for them to do that gives them that feeling, go ahead and tell us all about it, tell THEM about it. I don't think you can, and I bet they don't think so either.

I can, they're just not willing to listen, because it would require from them something more than an outsized ego and a misplaced sense of their own importance.

183 135 my favorite Marx related trivia is that Engels left $4 million to Marx's daughters when he died. How the fuck did that capitalist hoarder have $4 million?

Posted by: PR at October 27, 2011 05:06 PM (zpJOD)

Simple: Socialism is a scam.

It's a scam and only the dumbasses fall for it.

The "vanguard" know full well they're running a con and they make sure they get as much in terms of kickbacks as they can.

184

127 - Who is Peter Schiff? Seriously.   Posted by: jeannebodine

139 - Peter Schiff? Never heard of him   Posted by: Charles Gibson

Peter Schiff is a stock broker in Connecticut who focuses on long term investments in foreign markets, gold, and other commodities. He's an Austrian economist, libertarian, and economic advisor of Ron Paul's 2008 campaign. He foresaw the dotcom bubble, predicted the student loan bubble and housing crisis years in advance, warned people about the financials before they crashed, and constantly criticizes the Fed policy of Greenspan and Bernanke. He ran for Dodd's Senate seat in 2010 but lost the GOP primary to Linda McMahon. He has a daily 2 hour radio show at www. schiff radio. com. Some guy put together a must-watch youtube video called "Peter Schiff was right," of some of his TV appearances in 07-08 when EVERYONE was laughing at his predictions on the housing crisis.

185 I  think it's time to introduce the law of the pack. If your behavior is destructive to or harms the well being of the pack, the rest of the pack either drives you out or kills you. These people are a cancer on society and you don't negotiate or reason with cancer. You cut it out. Simple as that.

186 Ace is wasting his efforts and time on this, as are the morons echoing him.

Given that every fucking comment you make here consists of bitching about how Ace runs his blog or what we choose to comment on, perhaps you should find a different one or start your own.  Douche.

187 >>Posted by: Guest1776rcp at October 27, 2011 05:24 PM (0u2jP)

_{...had to pour Gatorade on my scrolling finger after that.}

188 The #OWS movement reminds me of many elements in Fellini's Satyricon.

189 182 In other words, when the guy brings up slavery in arguing with Schiff, he's got it 180 degrees wrong.   Government ended the enslavement of African-Americans by individual white property owners.   But, viewed simply from the perspective of who controls the fruits of the individual's labor, Government has perpetuated slavery of all of us through taxation. 

Posted by: The Regular Guy at October 27, 2011 05:25 PM (qHCyt)

The Left has never been against slavery, they just don't like it being privatized.

BTW, I'll bet Mr. Slavery doesn't know the name of the first slave (on North American soil under English law).

Wouldn't that be something one should know?

Especially since his name is actually known.  It isn't lost to history.

190 Dow soars over 12K in wake of gassings in restive Oakland

191 OWS just feeds off that and multiplies.

What multiplication?

192

Especially since his name is actually known.  It isn't lost to history.

John Casor isn't exactly a well-known name.

And I was an American History major.

193 Know what? Life's not "unfair". Life is life. You know what else? If you govern yourself with knowledge gained by the vastness of the genertions before you about what works or does not, things turn out pretty well. Sometimes there is a tragedy like an accident or a disease but life is mostly good if you do what you're supposed to. Doing the right thing gives you freedom.

The Gods of the Copybook Headings...

194 The last time the Left had a major protest movement, the country elected Richard Nixon, the most unlikable man to win a presidential election in the modern age.  Probably ever. They won't win this one.

195 How do you piss of a liberal?

Exist.

Have a plot of land, provide for yourself, live free.

196 I guess if you mean multiplication by a number between 0 and 1, that sounds about right.

197 196 OWS just feeds off that and multiplies.

What multiplication?

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 27, 2011 05:31 PM (mjSSA)

We were told there would be no math.

198 I think I'd prefer they #OccupyVicsBackYard, myself.

Those greasy stinkin SOBs come down here to occupy my backyard and they will get to occupy about 6 feet of it permanently. My model 1100 and various other devises will assure that I maintain my property truly private.

But all Morons are welcome to share the front porch and some brown liquor.

199 In fairness, I think the protestors aren't asking to get money for nothing. I think they are working under the flawed economic theory that the total economy is an un-expanding pie and people who make lots of money do so at their expense.

The best reply I've heard is 'so make another pie.'

200

John Casor isn't exactly a well-known name.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2011 05:32 PM (sbV1u)

And ask yourself, why not?

Given that slavery is THE original sin of America, isn't he kind of important?

201 LOL, just remembered, "get off my lawn punk" but have no Garand. The model 1100 will have to do.

202

I think I'd prefer they #OccupyVicsBackYard, myself.

Me?  I'd prefer #OccupyNamGrunt's backyard.

Mmmmmmmm, barbecue...

203

Given that slavery is THE original sin of America, isn't he kind of important?

Well, I'm biased because I am a history major, so yeah, it is.

But for most people today that's like asking "What is the velocity of a sparrow?"

204  The last time the Left had a major protest movement, the country elected Richard Nixon, the most unlikable man to win a presidential election in the modern age.  Probably ever. They won't win this one.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 27, 2011 05:32 PM (T0NGe)

 

It was the time when some of our political leaders gave orders to just shoot the fuckers.

205 <sub>Ace, Rex is dragging his furry butt across the carpet again.

...somebody open the slider and let Rex out.</sub>

206

#OccupyMyHamWallet

Somebody, please?  Anybody? ... Anybody at all???

207 Given that slavery is THE original sin of America, isn't he kind of important?

More the irony that Anthony Johnson, the first slave master, was himself African.

208 169 Perhaps even more amusing is bald liberal guys with ponytails.

Ah, yes. The "skullet."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 27, 2011 05:20 PM (l9zgN)

AHHHH! Too excellent. I'll put that one in my pocket. There's an old guy at church with a skullet who thinks "the peace" is a campaign stop.

209

Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2011 05:33 PM (YdQQY)

You ever go to Harris-Teeter?

210

There's an old guy at church with a skullet who thinks "the peace" is a campaign stop.

Running for Mayor of the sacristry is he?

211

because they’re angry about working 18-hour days to provide food for “professional homeless” people and ex-cons masquerading as protesters.

----

Reminds me of how the olympics used to be for amateurs only...just to keep the poor/lower class people on the outside.

Wouldn't be proper mingling with the lower sorts.

 

212

Wouldn't be proper mingling with the lower sorts.

The irony is rich.

I see they've discovered the "free rider" problem.

213 OWS wants attention. It feeds and multiplies off attention.

And we want that, we want them bigger, louder, with more demands, more indignant behavior, on the news every night. Sure they get stronger by picking up more and more of the hard left, but at the same time, the bigger they are and the more attention they get, the more they galvanize the squishy middle that liberalism is really a bad thing. When they put on display their ignorance, selfishness, narcissism, and entitleism, they convince more people that the progressive values which defined the generation of gimmees defecating on our civilization are themselves destructive to society. And they seek to find answers from us instead.

214 52 "It's as if the 10,000 years of recorded history don't exist for these idiots. It really is the Year Zero for them." They would say: Exactly what is it that 10,000 years of recorded history* has given me? I don't get given 10,000 years to play with here; at most, I get somewhere around 50 effective years, from getting out of school to being too frail to do anything. This IS my Year Zero. Tell me what else I can do that doesn't involve going home to three part-time jobs with no benefits only to go home to live in a rented cardboard box while I get deeper in debt til I go bankrupt and they seize my cardboard box. Most people, I would argue everyone, do not live their lives with a view to preserving some abstract idea of civilization. Nature hasn't made us that way; nature made us EACH strive to survive, and through that mechanism, the species has come to dominate over all other life forms on the planet that we can get after. You think telling a human to stop because he or she is overturning "10,000 years of recorded history" is going to have any meaning in light of what nature has made each of us into? (* You're going to get an argument about that number, and not just from me. We have records on cave walls dated back to 45,000 years. Biblical literalists say it's more closer to 6,000 years. Scientists say it's more closer to 4 billion years for this planet and 14 billion years for this universe, and all you have to do is look through space telescopes to see all the way back to the Big Bang, and that there was something we don't what "before" that because there's always something before.)

215 I am not paid for my time. I work 40 hours a week and my boss does too. We're sure as hell not being paid the same. We're paid for the successful application of our skill sets.

216

This IS my Year Zero. Tell me what else I can do that doesn't involve going home to three part-time jobs with no benefits only to go home to live in a rented cardboard box while I get deeper in debt til I go bankrupt and they seize my cardboard box.

Sure.  Simple questions.

Tell me why this is my problem.  Tell me why all should suffer for your poor decision-making skills.

Bonus points for leaving out Marxist claptrap.

217 More the irony that Anthony Johnson, the first slave master, was himself African.

Posted by: toby928© at October 27, 2011 05:37 PM (IfkGz)

Even more: Johnson sued to keep Casor a slave and his argument was...?  Multiculturalism.  Virginia couldn't tell him -- an Angolan -- he couldn't have a slave.  Slavery was part of his culture.

I kid you not.  Multiculturalism was essentially what he argued and we had slavery for about 200 more years after then.

218

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 27, 2011 05:45 PM (vahvH)

Man has access to and benefits from those who came before him. In your senario he has to invent fire.

219

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 27, 2011 05:45 PM (vahvH)

So these OWS don't speak a language or read? They only have a "nature"? They can't look at the combined knowledge of centuries and say, "Whoa, marxism sucks, I'd better get a job."

220 Rex has encapsulated the liberal position perfectly - ignore history and do shit we know hasn't worked.

221

You ever go to Harris-Teeter?

Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2011 05:39 PM (rmDVL)

That used to me my favorite store, but they shut ours down.

222 The only time I'm willing to devote to these hippie vermin is the time it takes to beat the aggressive ones back down, out of my face.

223

Even more: Johnson sued to keep Casor a slave and his argument was...?  Multiculturalism.  Virginia couldn't tell him -- an Angolan -- he couldn't have a slave.  Slavery was part of his culture.

Just looked up 'John Casor'. Jaw dropping.

224 204 In fairness, I think the protestors aren't asking to get money for nothing. I think they are working under the flawed economic theory that the total economy is an un-expanding pie and people who make lots of money do so at their expense.

The best reply I've heard is 'so make another pie.'

Posted by: Retread at October 27, 2011 05:34 PM

Leftist economics is a Zero-sum game. There is a set amount of everything and anything that grows at an average number that somehow pops up on their computer models.

Hence, for the rich to be as they are, they must grab more than "their share" of the pie at the expense of everyone else.

It's bullshit, but it's what they believe

225 Half the country sees "protection" in government tyranny. They see "freedom" in slavery. This can't and won't last. Class warfare will evolve into actual warfare. I just hope it comes before I get old because I want to play in that game. .

226 After all, a healthy hobo makes a prime trophy
Posted by: kbdabear

I'm guessing an OWS would make a better dish though.  Less stringy from having to actually fend for itself.

227

Slavery can be defined as a system in which one does not own the product of one's labor.

That's the opposite of capitalism.

228 199 "The last time the Left had a major protest movement, the country elected Richard Nixon, the most unlikable man to win a presidential election in the modern age." Yeah, good times ... So: who's the current Richard Nixon? Who's the closest thing we have to the "most unlikeable"? If we're going by just the polls, I'm thinking it has to be that gay guy running for the GOP nomination; but in a head-to, uh,-head contest, Huntsman might give his the runs for his money. Still a couple of weeks for a new candidate to announce. That guy in Florida who burns Korans and shoots his pistol off accidentally says he's coming in; might be worth a look.

229

This video really pisses me off! These F'n idiots have no clue that a majority of American's actually simpathize with some of the complaint, but their too stupid to actually make an arguement that makes sense.

They have not done their homework!

These F'n Morons believe that the system we have now is the pure Free Market system and we have to change it. It is not. We have been screaming from the rooftops for years now, to get government out of the way, because they had morphed the system already, and it is now a Quasi-Socialist Crony Capitalist System, and we need to get back to the more pure Free Market System.

I swear to God, I never be able to educate these kids, because they haven't the slightest clue how to learn, nor do they have th erepesct to understand they are the ones who have been  completely indoctrinated and fooled. They think they know it all, and they don't know Shit! It is supposed to be the media that points out to these people where they are correct and where they are incorrect, but when you have Government-Media Complex that is in it to destroy Capitalism we're F'ed.

230 At least they are admitting that hippie food tastes like shit.

231 Exactly what is it that 10,000 years of recorded history* has given me

Off the top of my head:

Fire, Steel, Cotton, Rayon, Cooked food, the computer you're on which you're typing.  The education to be able to type.  An understanding that 10,000 years might be a contentious number for "human history."

Shall I continue?

Our society only exists because of X-thousand years of human history.

232 Oops! Wrong thread...

233

People are filled with vanity. Vanity defines people. People tell themselves pretty lies, to convince themselves they're superior to other people.

And this post, my furry, Ewokian friend, is why I come here so much. Your psychological analysis is spot on and easily applicable (unfortunately) to many others in the political threater.

It's all ego, all the time. These folk wrap themselves in the very thick, insulating blanket of their own self-importance all the way up to their heads, blocking out reality.

234

threater = theater

I have not yet begun to drink.

235 I'm thinking it has to be that gay guy running for the GOP nomination; but in a head-to, uh,-head contest, Huntsman might give his the runs for his money.

Pretty sure the only gay guy running for president will be Barry.

236 Seven Deadly Sins, eh? Which applies to whom?

1) Lust
2) Gluttony
3) Greed -
4) Acedia (not making he most of your god-given talents)
5) Wrath
6) Envy
7) Pride

237 Fact: Rob Simmons or Peter Schiff would have made a better candidate than Linda McMahon for the CT Senate seat last year, but it has nothing to do with the campaign McMahon ran.  It's simply because of their profiles, which are far better matches (Simmons' especially) for the CT voting public than McMahon's with her WWE background.

But I will say this: as an actual on-the-ground CANDIDATE, Linda McMahon was the polar opposite of Christine O'Donnell or Sharron Angle or Ken Buck or Joe Miller: she lost, but it had nothing to do with the job she did in the race.  She ran a more or less flawless race, and I'm saying this from the perspective of someone who was intensely skeptical of her.  I still think she could never win because Connecticut is the sort of state that could never accept someone with her background (not even necessarily her positions, but the way she made her money), but I have nothing but praise for the extremely professional way she conducted herself as a candidate.  She earned my respect.

238 She ran a more or less flawless race

In your opinion.  Judging her by results she was a dismal failure like the others.

239

@238

True.....So True!

Majority of these OWS' haven't the slightest clue of Economics, but all of a sudden they act they are experts. They haven't learned the famous and most important breakthrough in Psycology in it's History.

"If you punish a behavior you get less of that behavior, and if you reward behavior, you get more of that behavior"

This theory is the most powerful tool in designing economic and tax systems. What is it going to take to get these people to understand that the underlieing arguement is,  "Do you want to be a Free Marketeer knowing that it is the only system known to man that does the best job at maintaining Freedom and Prosperity for the most amount of people, or not?" Because, the OWS general message is an attack on the Free Market, and it looks to me that they don't even realize it.........It's Pathetic!  

And, of course, if you question them on it they say "Oh No......I want Capitalism,".....Talk about annoying!

240 >>>In your opinion.  Judging her by results she was a dismal failure like the others.

It's almost as if you're trying to miss my point because you just want to be on the other side of me on any subject.  Again: someone can run an extremely good, disciplined, professional race and still lose because of objective factors beyond their control.  McMahon was, I agree, a worse choice as GOP candidate than either Simmons or Schiff for the simple reason of her biography: CT culture is very white-shoe and old money and looks down vehemently on the sort of lowbrow entertainment she made her fortune on with the WWE.  But in terms of how she actually ran her race?  She made no errors.  She was smart, sharp, extremely disciplined and yet not too frosty, made no unforced errors, destroyed Blumenthal in the debate, and generally impressed me as a serious person.

You also need to remember the fact that although to us living outside of Connecticut, Richard Blumenthal was/is nothing more than a Democratic hack who lied about his Vietnam service, to Connecticut voters of BOTH parties he was, before the scandal emerged, the single most popular person in the entire state.  It's what saved his bacon, along with the blue tilt of the state and the problems with McMahon's background.

Still, I agree she isn't the answer.  But the answer isn't going to please someone like you, Bevel.  PPP showed recently that the open seat race in CT could actually be extremely competitive and a possible pickup for the GOP...if we nominate moderate former GOP Congressman Chris Shays.  If we nominate McMahon again (which is overwhelmingly likely), it won't be a race.

241 Good for Peter S.  Except for a couple of nuts, the folks seemed pretty interested in what he had to say. Probably the first time they heard of this crazy GOOD thing called capitalism.

242 I remember reading a quote from some famous scientist who had this to say about socialism: "Great idea.  Wrong species."  (He studied ants.)

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