December 03, 2011
— Open Blogger Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.
This is known as "bad luck."
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Posted by: Mr Pink at December 03, 2011 03:55 AM (DOUNh)
Congress to sue Obama over Solyndra documents?
Members of Congress investigating the $535 million loan guarantee that the Obama administration gave to now-bankrupt solar panel manufacturer Solyndra are considering suing the White House to obtain access to documents relating to the case, Fox News has learned.
Sue? What happened to contempt of congress and eventual prosecution with up to 12 months in jail? Why are the baby-footing around? HereÂ’s why:
However, since the U.S. attorney for the capital, Ronald C. Machen Jr., is an Obama political appointee, committee Republicans are not optimistic that he would vigorously pursue a contempt citation against the White House.
What do you do when the DOJ is a crew of thug cronies? In the Nixon era they appointed a special prosecutor. Of course that only works with Republicans.
Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2011 03:56 AM (YdQQY)
And on that score the DOJ tries to explain why they lied to congress
Now where are the charges of perjury? Again, that only works with Republicans and sports figures.
Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2011 03:56 AM (YdQQY)
House ethics committee to take up JJJr.?
The House Ethics Committee announced Friday it will continue its investigation into allegations Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. or someone acting on his behalf offered to raise campaign cash for then-Gov. Rod Blagojevich in exchange for a Senate appointment in 2008.
The committee also released an initial report from the Office of Congressional Ethics that said there was “probable cause” to believe that Jackson either directed a third party or had knowledge of a third party’s effort to convince the since-convicted Blagojevich to appoint Jackson Jr. in exchange for campaign cash.
Hahahahaha, I see another tap on the wrist. Like Obama he is protected by blackdemocratium and untouchable. And guess what, he is guilty as hell.
Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2011 03:57 AM (YdQQY)
Obama flying out to Hawaii for another 17 day vacation
I donÂ’t mind the damn vacations because he doesnÂ’t do a damn thing worthwhile in DC anyway. But he should have run out of travel funds mid-year.
Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2011 03:57 AM (YdQQY)
Washington Times swallows unemployment numbers and Obama's man-meat - no questions asked.
This is part of the overall election strategy for 2012. Expect to see it in full swing soon. First start gradually manipulating the numbers down. Second, start spending all that unspent “porkulous money” they have been holding. Where will he spend it? In heavy Dem districts? Hell no. It will go to places like VA that he MUST carry to win. This is the FDR strategy to win in 1936.
Thee numbers are as phony as a three dollar bill but nobody in the MFM questions them at all. As I demonstrated yesterday using the Dept of LaborÂ’s own numbers for adults over 20, roughly 38% of the U.S. adult workforce is unemployed for one reason or another. WE ARE IN A DEPRESSION FOLKS
Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2011 03:58 AM (YdQQY)
And finally the Vegas line on LSU-GA is LSU by 13.5 points (no link)
Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2011 03:59 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: alexthechick at December 03, 2011 04:01 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: dogfish at December 03, 2011 04:02 AM (N2yhW)
Really? I thought it would have been at least 17.
I'm going to attempt to put up some Christmas lights today. This will involve me standing on a ladder while attempting to do something else. I'm presuming that hilarity will ensue.
Posted by: alexthechick at December 03, 2011 04:02 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: soothie at December 03, 2011 04:02 AM (xIzGn)
Actually, each time I heard the radio news yesterday, they cited the backstory of more people disappearing from the labor force. I was very surprised to hear actual context from the MSM.
Posted by: nickless at December 03, 2011 04:03 AM (MMC8r)
A DOE spokesman said Aptera didnÂ’t clear the final two hurdles to obtain the money: getting a conditional loan commitment and then closing the loan.
hahahahaha; anyone believe that? Obviously they didn't give Obama & the Dems enough money.
Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2011 04:03 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: rockmom at December 03, 2011 04:06 AM (A0UFZ)
One wonders why nobody has taken that to court yet? I guess they are waiting for the HHS to hit somebody and then they can get standing and a mass class action lawsuit?
That provision, like most of the massive law is unconstitutional as hell.
Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2011 04:07 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: rockmom at December 03, 2011 04:10 AM (A0UFZ)
Posted by: dogfish at December 03, 2011 04:10 AM (N2yhW)
Oh it's democracy alright, what our betters failed to realize or recognize is that Islamists don't want our western society they want an society based on Islam. Muslims are funny that way.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 03, 2011 04:11 AM (GZitp)
My best guess as to why no suit yet? No actual harm has yet occurred. Courts aren't supposed to issue advisory opinions so until such time as an entity gets hit with a penalty, there's no controversy actually before the court.
Posted by: alexthechick at December 03, 2011 04:11 AM (Gk3SS)
Right now we are heading into the election year. This is about the time during the Carter era that the press finally gave up on him and started running more critical stories.
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 03, 2011 04:17 AM (GoIUi)
A good question is how he wound up on the Forbes web site.
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 03, 2011 04:19 AM (GoIUi)
I know we had an "Amazon" button thingy around here for a while.
Anyone know where it went to?
Yeah, I am going to have to replace a 15" woofer in my Infinity SM-150's and if I do I was going to order through that button.
Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2011 04:21 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: dogfish at December 03, 2011 04:25 AM (N2yhW)
The thing to just keep in mind is that the employment information put out by law schools is highly fudged. Be sure to talk to third-year students at any law school you're considering (find them on your own, not through the school). That will give you an accurate picture of what the situation at that school is like.
Posted by: AD at December 03, 2011 04:31 AM (bvNnY)
That breakup with Reggie Love must have been devastating.
Posted by: Fritz at December 03, 2011 04:31 AM (FabC8)
Posted by: willow at December 03, 2011 04:32 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: SurferDoc at December 03, 2011 04:33 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: dogfish at December 03, 2011 04:33 AM (N2yhW)
Posted by: dogfish at December 03, 2011 04:35 AM (N2yhW)
Posted by: willow at December 03, 2011 04:36 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2011 04:36 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Obama at December 03, 2011 04:41 AM (P9OJs)
Do his kids get a break that long from school? I bet this is a two AF1 trip.
Posted by: Retread at December 03, 2011 04:42 AM (ALZZ7)
BambiCare
A man from Nyköping in eastern Sweden has been denied a power wheelchair despite having had both of his legs amputated as the local health authority remained "uncertain if the impairment was permanent".
Swedes leave humans to grow new legs like lizards can another tail. They were willing to remove his legs, but not to give him a wheelchair. They want him in a pushcart? Darwinian evolution gone a muck, uncertain if stupidity is permanent? Evidently, socialized healthcare permanently impairs the bureaucratic mind into perpetually indifferent denial of reality.
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 03, 2011 04:43 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: rockmom at December 03, 2011 04:44 AM (A0UFZ)
Newt: The Civil Warrior @ American Thinker
WTF? Do you even read that? Smith's defense of Gingrich is that he's like Grant and he can also see the importance of this election. Well that does it for me, where do I sign on to the campaign?
Posted by: lowandslow at December 03, 2011 04:45 AM (GZitp)
Posted by: rockmom at December 03, 2011 04:46 AM (A0UFZ)
Posted by: rockmom at December 03, 2011 04:47 AM (A0UFZ)
Posted by: GMB who has changed his mind and now hopes for a Perry comeback at December 03, 2011 04:48 AM (wY55N)
Posted by: dogfish at December 03, 2011 04:48 AM (N2yhW)
"but I hope his family wins their suit against the district."
Unfortunately that lawsuit is really against the taxpayers of that school district. They get to lose twice.
Posted by: GMB who has changed his mind and now hopes for a Perry comeback at December 03, 2011 04:50 AM (wY55N)
Yeah. The other 364 days a year of temperate weather must really suck. Playing outdoors in January must be a real nightmare.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 04:51 AM (piMMO)
Yikes! That's a visual we could have done without." Beg pardon, I won't do it again.
Posted by: GMB who has changed his mind and now hopes for a Perry comeback at December 03, 2011 04:51 AM (wY55N)
Posted by: dogfish at December 03, 2011 04:52 AM (N2yhW)
Posted by: willow at December 03, 2011 04:53 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: rockmom at December 03, 2011 04:53 AM (A0UFZ)
"Yeah. The other 364 days a year of temperate weather must really suck. Playing outdoors in January must be a real nightmare."
You cant play outside in the cold weather? Wow, my parents never told me that. Thanks for the info!
Wasn't trying to start a fight. 
Posted by: GMB who has changed his mind and now hopes for a Perry comeback at December 03, 2011 04:54 AM (wY55N)
anyway, is it at all possible He can regain favor? Has it been done before. it is a year out still?
Posted by: willow at December 03, 2011 04:55 AM (h+qn8)
He is neither. He is an arrogant man who has read his audience quite well enough to realize that a good beatdown of the other party and the MSM would be welcome. However, he has failed to realize that we also know that, while entertaining, it is no way to run a nation.
I can't get past one simple line in DORs sidebar article explaining his vote for Perry: I donÂ’t have to convince myself that heÂ’s a changed man in order to feel good about my choice.
That, in itself, is a powerful argument.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 04:56 AM (piMMO)
I'm Baptist and we don't do confirmation so it depends on what denomination the Obamas are claiming to be to determine whether confirmation is even a thing for them.
Posted by: alexthechick at December 03, 2011 04:58 AM (Gk3SS)
Me neither!
Just a Florida gal who really appreciated playing outside on certain Blessed Winter days, wearing only a t-shirt and shorts!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 04:59 AM (piMMO)
So, how you doin?
Posted by: lowandslow at December 03, 2011 05:01 AM (GZitp)
Or having her labia and clitoris sliced off.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 03, 2011 05:02 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: jeanne! with two N's and an E at December 03, 2011 05:03 AM (Gsm1d)
I know this is how we find out what and who they are. But it's hard to like any of them by the time we have to vote. Perhaps i will just lie back and think of England while you guys handle the dirty work needed.
yeah i'm a wimp. and abo
Posted by: willow at December 03, 2011 05:04 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: rockmom at December 03, 2011 05:06 AM (A0UFZ)
Posted by: MDH3 at December 03, 2011 05:07 AM (GKyUC)
although in this case I'm not sure if "good luck" means passing the LSAT or failing it
Posted by: chemjeff at December 03, 2011 05:08 AM (s7mIC)
Nothing glamorous or exciting, but if you're in need of a small canister vac...really small... I bought the Eureka Powermite for $19 at Walmart. It's so small that you can hold it in one hand while using the wand to dust the blinds and molding. It's a bagged model with a washable filter and a retractable cord.
For $19 bucks.
What a pleasant little surprise to purchase something that actually does what it claims on the box.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 05:09 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Chilling the most for perry at December 03, 2011 05:10 AM (6IV8T)
Posted by: rockmom at December 03, 2011 05:10 AM (A0UFZ)
I'd rather have Perry than Gingrich. But since the elections are basically American Idol. Perry's gonna have to get his debate shit together.
And some of these other people need to go away. Like all of them except Newt, Rick and yeah Mittz.The longer they hang around they're just doing damage.
Posted by: USS Diversity at December 03, 2011 05:11 AM (UKlME)
Posted by: alexthechick at December 03, 2011 08:02 AM (Gk3SS)
Good for you, but whatever you do, do NOT think of spiders or clowns
Posted by: chemjeff at December 03, 2011 05:11 AM (s7mIC)
Another sign of Recovery Winter:
Area storm grate thefts create hazard
A rash of thefts in the Wyoming Valley and nearby is creating a hazard for drivers and walkers.
Storm-drain covers have recently been stolen in Hanover Township, Wilkes-Barre and Wilkes-Barre Township, and guard rails have been swiped from their posts along Oak Street in Old Forge and state Route 347 from Dunmore to Scott Township in Lackawanna County.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at December 03, 2011 05:12 AM (7+pP9)
Truman, going into the future with noble plans to change the world or, at least, uphold the law, isn't such a bad thing. If you decide later to try something else, your degree will make you a valuable property at many large companies and...of course...politics.
Truman for Senate!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 05:13 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: rockmom at December 03, 2011 05:13 AM (A0UFZ)
Given the latest US emphasis on the global-Pacific region, no one's made news of Obama's long distance White House Hawaiian compound, because he hasn't used tax funds to buy/construct the POTUS a Pacific Presidential Suite at a Hawaiian military installation secured site. Instead, whatever tax funded improvements are made on the president's behalf at a private facility benefit the private property at taxpayer expense.
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 03, 2011 05:13 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: MDH3 at December 03, 2011 05:13 AM (GKyUC)
Posted by: nickless at December 03, 2011 05:14 AM (MMC8r)
Thanks for the Amazon response.
AdBlocker was stopping it with Firefox on my end as well.
But the weird thing is, I checked AdBlocker before my original post, and the Amazon widget was not there to be blocked.
And after I re-checked it from your response, AdBlocker reported it as the first item it was blocking.
It's as if the widget comes and goes.
Posted by: Village Idiots Apprentice at December 03, 2011 05:14 AM (x7rrv)
I hate you so much right now.
Posted by: alexthechick at December 03, 2011 05:15 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: rockmom at December 03, 2011 09:06 AM (A0UFZ)
I think that is what bugs me most. We hear daily how we are doomed, News from Europe to the mid east, to China and russia banding together , but we are castigated over our concerns that a candidate should be fiscally sane and be able to handle the rising thugs and dictators in this brave new world.
we really don't want someone that is only concerned with getting His own power, but someone that really will have the balls and be wise enough to hire the wisest to deal with these issues.
Posted by: willow at December 03, 2011 05:15 AM (h+qn8)
I don't even know how to block the annoying ads
Posted by: willow at December 03, 2011 05:17 AM (h+qn8)
That poor wife of his. Do you suppose she just ignored the signs?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 05:17 AM (piMMO)
I believe absolutely that he will.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 08:57 AM (piMMO)
I wish that I believed you were right, but I don't think so. That said, I'm going to vote for him in the primary here if I get the chance to.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 03, 2011 05:18 AM (rLhp2)
And, he has a great self-deprecating sense of humor. While Newt, Cain, and Mitt all have a sense of humor about other people, I'm not accustomed to hearing them cough up the humor in themselves.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 05:18 AM (piMMO)
With over a year to go, catch your breath. The gamble isn't if or when they'll drop out, since that's an eventuality. Rather, whom will each drop out endorse, and what difference will their endorsement make? Also, with 999 by the wayside, and eventually the tax lawyer sidelined, what of a logical low tax system? Swept off the stage along with the obligatory stupidity of "I never had sex with that woman."
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 03, 2011 05:19 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: USS Diversity at December 03, 2011 05:20 AM (UKlME)
It took me all this time to become a fangirl of any of the candidates but I think I am now seeing a tendency.
I guess I've really and truly picked my candidate now.
Time to dig out the checkbook.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 05:22 AM (piMMO)
Much better than Obama broadcasting Americans as lazy and uneducated, tossing civilians into the failure waste bin while bragging that his children won't be hurt as America becomes more like China.
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 03, 2011 05:22 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 03, 2011 09:19 AM (lpWVn)
Bachmann will endorse Mutt. She's crazy enough to still think that she'll be his VP choice. Cain, I don't know...I doubt he'll endorse anyone right away...he'll wait and see who makes him the best offer. I still would not be a bit surprised for Cain to leave with a "gosh, I guess the GOP is racist after all" parting shot.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 03, 2011 05:23 AM (rLhp2)
Posted by: dj at December 03, 2011 05:25 AM (K1pTP)
Posted by: Bob Dole! at December 03, 2011 05:25 AM (s7mIC)
What else can be said? The Mutt is inevitable....
The Mutt/The Newt '12!!11!!!
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 03, 2011 05:26 AM (HkOAc)
Posted by: Dede Scuzzyfuzzywuzzy at December 03, 2011 05:28 AM (s7mIC)
Posted by: Mr Pink at December 03, 2011 05:28 AM (DOUNh)
Is there a reason you capitalized "He" and "Him" when speaking about Rick Perry?
Freudian slip?
Posted by: Tendstl at December 03, 2011 05:29 AM (UAzle)
Posted by: MDH3 at December 03, 2011 05:30 AM (GKyUC)
Cain staffer says he will drop out today
It's a particularly sad time for me personally about this guy. I've been listening to Cain on the radio when he would sit in for Boortz for many years and he is/was an inspiration to me. I would love to hear him speak and he did it so eloquently. So positively. A nice change of pace from the victim race card other black "leaders" spout. I was excited when I first heard him hint that there may be a "dark horse" candidate in the next election. I thought to myself how the media wouldn't touch him because he's black. Boy was I wrong.
Did he do these things to the women? Probably. Just wish the fucking media would vet the dems with the same intensity as they did with Palin/Cain, etc.
Posted by: learflyer at December 03, 2011 05:31 AM (9vscO)
Posted by: blaster at December 03, 2011 05:31 AM (Fw2Gg)
I know, what can I say? I still believe in miracles.
I am sticking with Perry. He's actually a likeable man, which is a big plus for a candidate.
Gingrich is already on the way to imploding with his grandiose bragging about himself. A little humility from someone of importance like Perry is quite refreshing, if you ask me.
A bunch of Texans have headed to Iowa to knock on doors and work in general, so Perry might have a better Iowa showing than what people expect.
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 03, 2011 05:32 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: MDH3 at December 03, 2011 05:32 AM (GKyUC)
It took the Enquirer to actually follow John Edwards, and that was well after his candidacy.
Posted by: nickless at December 03, 2011 05:32 AM (MMC8r)
I'm still shocked at this discovery.
Posted by: willow at December 03, 2011 05:34 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: mike at December 03, 2011 05:35 AM (/8MOU)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..(oZfic) is cat piss at December 03, 2011 05:36 AM (SH3gZ)
Posted by: willow at December 03, 2011 05:37 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..(oZfic) is cat piss at December 03, 2011 05:37 AM (SH3gZ)
I have my own tiny sign.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 05:38 AM (piMMO)
honestly we are so lucky. imagine washing in streams and beating them on rocks. or even those wringer washers. the comforters!
shudder.
Posted by: willow at December 03, 2011 05:39 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: alexthechick at December 03, 2011 08:02 AM (Gk3SS)
Please make sure someone is spotting you, for safety's sake. An injury hospital visit this close to Christmas would truly suck. Trust me on this.
Free ProTip 1: Your spotter should have a camera/camcorder/cell phone with camera to record any hilarity that does ensue, whether for insurance purposes, or just for sharing your joy with others.
Free ProTip 2: Images or recordings of women on ladders are always enhanced by having the woman wear a (short) skirt.
Happy Holidays!
Posted by: Josef K. at December 03, 2011 05:40 AM (7+pP9)
Maybe, maybe not.
But the ultimate question remains, what comes of any endorsement? How much do I allow my mind to not think but simply absorb propaganda's imagery in ads?
I'm determining my vote on platform agenda. Just because some politician gets paid off with promises in order to secure an endorsement for another politician doesn't buy my vote.
The "charismatic" vote elected Obama. Americans better admit what charisma looks like. So the Pied Piper beckons. What has that tune to do with achieving the hard work in order for posterity to have a valuable US Dollar, our domestic manufacturing base with real jobs, invigorated infrastructure, and national security? Rather, the result of buying charisma with your vote is the sacrifice of the next generation, wasted on securing fraud.
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 03, 2011 05:41 AM (lpWVn)
Oh that Grayson, what a rebellious scamp.
Posted by: T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII at December 03, 2011 05:41 AM (GZitp)
Posted by: willow at December 03, 2011 05:42 AM (h+qn8)
I have gone on profane, violent tears about my machine on several threads. OMG do I hate it.
It's a GE with the Hydro-Wave system. It doesn't run enough water to circulate the clothes. With every load I have to check the water level and twist the water-level button to force it to add a little more water. Because of this problem, if I miss doing the same for the rinse cycle, I frequently have to re-rinse.
Let's just say that there's no such thing as putting in a load to wash and going about my business of working on other chores.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 05:42 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: blaster at December 03, 2011 05:44 AM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: Chilling the most for perry at December 03, 2011 05:46 AM (6IV8T)
I dropped for both Teh Fred and Mitt before finally giving to McCain in the general. I'm still gonna do it.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 05:46 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: blaster at December 03, 2011 05:46 AM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: Mr Pink at December 03, 2011 05:46 AM (DOUNh)
Posted by: blaster at December 03, 2011 05:48 AM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: willow at December 03, 2011 05:48 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: moki at December 03, 2011 05:48 AM (dZmFh)
Posted by: Chilling the most for perry at December 03, 2011 05:49 AM (6IV8T)
“i love mine....it's a whirlpool duet”
Posted by: phoenixgirl..(oZfic) is cat piss at December 03, 2011 09:36 AM (SH3gZ)
My wife and I bought the whirlpool duets and they are ok, but my daughter bought the Electrolux front loaders and they are unbelievable. They wash and dry in half the time, are much quieter and even have cool lighting and controls. Considering she got them with my money, IÂ’m considering repossession.
Posted by: jwest at December 03, 2011 05:50 AM (qeYI9)
Posted by: rockmom at December 03, 2011 05:50 AM (A0UFZ)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..(oZfic) is cat piss at December 03, 2011 05:51 AM (SH3gZ)
Posted by: mike at December 03, 2011 05:51 AM (/8MOU)
Posted by: willow at December 03, 2011 05:51 AM (h+qn8)
I'd like to find out what or who he was referring to and when and what they did because I can't think of any group or time that would accord what he says.
Is this a fake quote from a book of fiction by him?
Posted by: Charter member in the effete corps of impudent snobs at December 03, 2011 05:51 AM (xqpQL)
Posted by: nickless will probably get accidentally banned again soon at December 03, 2011 05:51 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: moki at December 03, 2011 05:51 AM (dZmFh)
Posted by: willow at December 03, 2011 05:52 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: blaster at December 03, 2011 05:53 AM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: rockmom at December 03, 2011 05:53 AM (A0UFZ)
I should have known. When I bought my little old house, the lady who lived here before me had maintained her home impeccably. Her GE appliances were really old, but worked, so I saw no need to replace them. About a year after moving in the dryer broke. I called out a repairman and he took a look and said it was so old that it didn't have a heating element, but an actual heater for which parts could no longer be obtained. I had a home warranty so, no biggie, and I went out and bought a new GE dryer.
About a year later my washing machine broke, and by broke I mean it flooded my garage. The repairman came out and took a look and said that the machine was probably close to 40 years old and couldn't be repaired because the motor was positioned under the tub and had been destroyed during the flood. No biggie, I said, I'll just use the home warranty to buy another.
Do not buy GE were his final words.
I should have listened.
The original GE appliances lasted 40 years. In the subsequent 8 years I have run through two sets of GE appliances.
Never again.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 05:54 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..(oZfic) is cat piss at December 03, 2011 05:56 AM (SH3gZ)
Posted by: Mr Pink at December 03, 2011 05:57 AM (DOUNh)
Posted by: rockmom at December 03, 2011 05:57 AM (A0UFZ)
Posted by: nickless will probably get accidentally banned again soon at December 03, 2011 09:51 AM (MMC8r)
nickless, get her something practical!
Posted by: chemjeff at December 03, 2011 05:58 AM (s7mIC)
So, made up quotes made up by someone who though he sounds good doesn't have any facts to back that "quote" up.
Posted by: Charter member in the effete corps of impudent snobs at December 03, 2011 05:58 AM (xqpQL)
Posted by: rockmom at December 03, 2011 05:59 AM (A0UFZ)
Posted by: Mr Pink at December 03, 2011 06:00 AM (DOUNh)
The cost of fixing it if it breaks is usually less than the cost of the warranty.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 03, 2011 06:02 AM (s7mIC)
Yeah. I don't either. Maybe I just like standing in front of the machine each weekend and cursing, loudly, about how much I hate that effing machine. And, yes...only on the weekends. After working a 10-12 hour day, I am in no mood for it M-F.
Poor CJ felt so bad about my predicament (or my bitching) that he offered to give me his machine if I could pick it up.
What a sweetheart.
I'm going to buy a new machine next month.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 06:02 AM (piMMO)
wow! 1/2 the time would be awesome...if these weren't so new.....i'd chase the better appliance.....
Posted by: phoenixgirl..(oZfic) is cat piss at December 03, 2011 09:56 AM (SH3gZ)
My daughter has a 2 year old and just had twins 3 months ago, so with the kids and her husband they do at least 4 loads a day. My wife goes over to their house to help out with the laundry and absolutely loves the Electrolux.
Posted by: jwest at December 03, 2011 06:02 AM (qeYI9)
If he is the nominee, I will have the debates on mute with the AoS live chat giving the play by play. I couldn't stand to actually watch it.
Posted by: Jose at December 03, 2011 06:02 AM (srIqv)
HAHAHA! I guess Radio Flyers are a lot more cost effective in Sweden.
Posted by: Lady in Black: still voting for Perry (He has the best hair.) at December 03, 2011 06:04 AM (ycuSb)
The home warranty was about $35 a month and covered everything from washing machines to my central air and heat pump system.
It might not cover those systems now. I wish I had maintained the warranty had.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 06:04 AM (piMMO)
Glad you're getting a new washer.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 03, 2011 06:05 AM (s7mIC)
Yeah, and you didn't even clean me off either
Posted by: blaster's vacuum attachments at December 03, 2011 09:35 AM (s7mIC)
Good one, cj! Good one!
Posted by: No Whining at December 03, 2011 06:05 AM (Og1Kk)
Come to think of it, we did sent McCain/Palin Sarah! money before he decided to TARPoon his campaign into his willing suspension of disbelief.
Anyway, times are hard. If I'm going to give away money at this point, it will be a donation to the Salvation Army. It isn't as if elected officials actually listen to their constituents, only to lobbyists. No matter how much money I give a politician's politician, they're not going to listen to me. As if Rick, Mitt or Newt would rescind the US Treasury and Dollar from the clutches of the Federal Reserve bent on profitably destroying national sovereignty. I'm not going to willingly pay to be abused. Nor will I accept excuses from my elected Members of Congress writing that their dirty rotten votes are a "first step towards improvement." Buying their own insulation, not mine or yours. Bad enough being stood up. Worse being raped, pillaged and burnt to the ground for wanting rule of law to win the day.
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 03, 2011 06:06 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Tami at December 03, 2011 06:06 AM (X6akg)
How many months was the warranty? Say the cost of a new washer is $500, then if you paid the warranty for more than 14 months, you didn't come out ahead.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 03, 2011 06:06 AM (s7mIC)
Didn't need 2 of them, but.....
So here we sit, stuffed and happy.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 03, 2011 06:07 AM (SAMxH)
Niedermeyer;
Keep in mind that sometimes repairmen say something isn't repairable because THEY don't want to try to repair it OR the parts will cost too much. Sometimes a part will be unavailable if the machine is old enough but similar parts can be found a lot of the time.
As to a Dryer not having a heater element? I think he didn't want to fix it. A dryer HAS TO HAVE some source of heat thus why it's called a dryer. Perhaps there was a glitch in translation.
I know I used to tell folks stuff wasn't repairable when the part was too hard to find OR it was an ass ache to replace. (we charged a flat rate for labor as most people balk at an hourly claiming we worked too slow).
Pretty much EVERYTHING lasted longer years ago. They also cost more. They also weren't made in China or Taiwan or Japan or Korea or Thailand or Malaysia.
Get the picture? Well maybe not if you've got a GE TV.
Especially if the repair guy works for a new appliance dealer.
Not saying GE is such great stuff, just saying don't take the opinion of the repair guy as gospel. He may have other motivations than telling the truth.
Posted by: Charter member in the effete corps of impudent snobs at December 03, 2011 06:08 AM (xqpQL)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 03, 2011 06:11 AM (Qjh0I)
I'm in the upstate. You must've seen the one on I-85 between Greenville & Sparkle City (Spartanburg). It's the only campaign sign of anyone's that I've seen anywhere. Four years ago, this place was mobbed with signs....mostly Ron Paul. Not one yet.
CAC's Friday eve map last night has me really, really nervous. To think how close this election will be sends shivers down my spine. Especially considering what I believe will be grand scale fraud next year. I'm pretty worried.
After Vic's upthread links, I'm about ready to go straight back to bed. Too bad I made it already. But I'm off soon to see Trans Siberian Orchestra for a little diversion. Hope it's as good as everyone says!
Posted by: Lady in Black: still voting for Perry (He has the best hair.) at December 03, 2011 06:11 AM (ycuSb)
But just who would they manage to sway with that attack? "Moderates"?
The same "moderates" who voted for Obama the first time?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 06:11 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: mike at December 03, 2011 06:13 AM (/8MOU)
She went down and got a new Sear washer and dryer set, state of the art top of the line. Had the guys haul off the old stuff. Nothing wrong with the washer.
The bearings in the dryer went out after about two years. I did some research on Amazon and various rating agencies. It seems that ALL home appliances now are shit.
I went down to Lowes and got the cheapest thing they had for a dryer regardless of brand. My only criteria was it had to fit in the space available.
Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2011 06:14 AM (YdQQY)
Fast forward six and a half years (my how time flies) and they are still working fine, I've had to replace the mixer valve on the washing machine twice but they have serviced the six-to-eight of us well (my adult children have been in and out-mostly in-bringing spouses, girlfriends and children with them). I guess they are the cut-rate Whirlpool models, whatever they are they have been good ones.
Keep in mind there are only a couple of companies that actually MAKE washers and dryers, but a lot of companies that put their names on them. Kind of like riding lawn mowers.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 03, 2011 06:14 AM (yh0zB)
Yeah too bad they aren't going to Kenya.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 03, 2011 06:15 AM (s7mIC)
Made this for Wyatt's weekend caption thing. Figured the morons might appreciate it.
Posted by: Ranba Ral at December 03, 2011 06:15 AM (G99e4)
It was always $35 a month but didn't expire with one appliance. It replace two appliances and would have continued to cover my other systems, such as the heat pump and kitchen appliances as well as any replacements purchased under the warranty.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 06:15 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Hoiman Coin, muhfukka at December 03, 2011 06:16 AM (ndp2I)
I dread the day my very old washer & dryer go out. New appliances are nothing like their older counterparts. They majorly suck. My dad has the same stove/oven he's had for 50 years. Our new one had burners go bad after about 5 years. I got rid of it. I think I'll have to comb Craigs List or the paper for old machines when mine go. The newer ones look great, but they blow.
Posted by: Lady in Black: still voting for Perry (He has the best hair.) at December 03, 2011 06:17 AM (ycuSb)
It will be easier for him to practice self control at this point, remaining silent as need be, rather than trying to preside over the debate club. But then, so long as Perry's ratings are single digit, the media will effectively silence him from their airtime and print. No time for losers, the underdog theme song.
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 03, 2011 06:17 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: mike at December 03, 2011 06:18 AM (/8MOU)
niedermeyer
Your washer still under warranty for labor? Have the water level sensor checked if it is and even if it isn't. It might be worth finding out if this is a design problem or something else.
Many of these sensors are just a tube that as the water rises increases the pressure on a switch. They can get kinked and depending on design and placement can be inaccurate but they can be adjusted sometimes. Or the switch is defective.
You might be going crazy for no reason. Hire repair guy NOT working for dealer if possible. Depending where you live there may be some around.
Posted by: Charter member in the effete corps of impudent snobs at December 03, 2011 06:19 AM (xqpQL)
Posted by: Lady in Black: still voting for Perry (He has the best hair.) at December 03, 2011 06:20 AM (ycuSb)
but yeah, getting back to unionizing poverty...
It's a pretty clever plan by the Left. They found a way to keep a permanent underclass trapped by paying them off with benefits and wages to barely keep them above water but not enough to get them ahead.
Posted by: soothsayer at December 03, 2011 06:20 AM (sqkOB)
This older washer is direct drive,no belts. They don't make them like they used to.
Posted by: sig at December 03, 2011 06:22 AM (0GV9m)
And of course the result is resentment and bitterness. Then it's easy to use the union members, such as SEIU, to shift blame on anyone who has more wealth than they do.
Posted by: soothsayer at December 03, 2011 06:22 AM (sqkOB)
Yeah, go on Amazon and read the personal reviews people write. Some are real horror stories. We have become a throw-away culture in major appliances now.
I still have the old original Sear refrigerator out in my old pool shed and it was working fine after 30 years when I unplugged it a couple of years ago. The new one that replaced it (bigger with fancy geegaws) is literally falling apart now.
My older brother bought a news Sear refer a couple of years ago and it tore up under warranty. He couldn't get them to work on it at all. They wouldn't even honor the warranty.
I have no idea what I am going to do for a refer when this one finally gives up the ghost. I suspect they are all shit now as well. I know one thing though, I will not let wifey buy it. Last one cost me 2K for the refer and 15K for remodeling the kitchen after had to cut out cabinets so it would fit.
What was funny was I was working night shift when the guy brought it in. We had to take doors off the hinges to get it in. I looked and wife and made sarcastic comment, "couldn't you find a bigger one"? Guy rolling it says "no that is the biggest one they make".
Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2011 06:25 AM (YdQQY)
I'm concerned about all the jobs that are now and are soon to be going overseas.
How can you get people to be self reliant when there's no way for them to earn a living?
Remember that half or more of the population (look at a bell curve on I.Q. spread) are not especially bright. We're intelligent enough but not creative enough (brilliance) to invent our own jobs.
Many people are good workers but who have to work for someone. Without jobs that pay a living wage (not the liberal definition btw) and offer advancement as someone creates a family then their numbers will drag the economy and the mood of the country down.
It's a pickle.
Posted by: Charter member in the effete corps of impudent snobs at December 03, 2011 06:27 AM (xqpQL)
People are supposed to aspire to get themselves (or their children) out of poverty.
Yeah, you can have this shitty job, but use it as a vehicle to get a better job.
But the SEIU members are in for life. They get [shitty] health insurance and a [shitty] livable wage. If they didn't get those things they would try harder to make those jobs temporary until they got something better instead of trying to raise families on their jobs.
Posted by: soothsayer at December 03, 2011 06:31 AM (sqkOB)
Also can't find an electric skillet worth a damn. Another one of those we can only get pulse heat energy saver bullshit here.
We also just replaced the fridge after about 20 years. Like you, we had to remodel part of the kitchen to get it to fit. It looks pretty, but I'm afraid to pull the door open too hard for fear it'll snap the whole assembly in half.
Posted by: Ranba Ral at December 03, 2011 06:32 AM (G99e4)
Oh, it did have heat, but it wasn't an "element" as are in newer units. It was basically a whole heater shoved inside the GE appliance. And the heater was manufactured by someone other than GE. It was a crazy looking setup.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 06:35 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 03, 2011 06:35 AM (yh0zB)
Posted by: rockmom at December 03, 2011 06:35 AM (A0UFZ)
McDonald's used to be a place for teens, students, and retirees.
Now adults with low-to-no skills (imported from foreign countries) are making a career at McDonald's and having [anchor] babies while doing so. You cannot sustain a family on your McDonald's wages. Thus the nanny govt has to make ends meet.
Eventually the Left will have their way and unionize McDonald's.
It's a win-win for the Left. They create a permanent dependent underclass and they destroy capitalism and corporations along the way.
Posted by: soothsayer at December 03, 2011 06:36 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..(oZfic) is cat piss at December 03, 2011 06:37 AM (SH3gZ)
The ones who first gravitated to Bachmann.. Then to Perry.. Then to Cain.
They never did gravitate to Romney.
It would appear, they've settled on Gingrich.. At least, for the time being.
That's my Observation o'the Day.
Posted by: franksalterego at December 03, 2011 06:37 AM (9XykO)
Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2011 06:37 AM (YdQQY)
That is disheartening because, when all else failed, Sears' handshake was always worth something.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 06:38 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2011 10:37 AM (YdQQY)
okay that is seriously funny right there
Posted by: chemjeff at December 03, 2011 06:38 AM (s7mIC)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 06:40 AM (piMMO)
Hmm, is this what you mean Vic?
Posted by: chemjeff at December 03, 2011 10:35 AM (s7mIC)
Good Lord...she could feed a nation.
Posted by: Tami at December 03, 2011 06:41 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 10:40 AM (piMMO)
You think I do? Have you heard of this fellow named CoolCzech...?
Posted by: chemjeff at December 03, 2011 06:41 AM (s7mIC)
We're hand washing dishes since that Maytag broke. A Bosch will arrive this week. Friends like theirs.
Our Kenmore 3 year old refrigerator and stove broke as soon as warranties expired, and repairs (with no guarantee that whatever else wouldn't break next) costs approximated new replacements.
Our Maytag 10 year old washer gave out. We replaced it with the latest front-loading Whirlpool from Lowes. NEVER have I heard such a loud racket as the damned expensive water conserving front loader when it spins. And the wash cycles go on and on for nearly 2 hours. When we bought it over a year ago, the Lowes repairman insisted that the noise level was normal for the brand new machine. The owners manual says to expect noises from the machine. Now the large capacity front loader won't run large loads anymore, stopping mid-cycle this month unless the load is light, 1/3 full. The warranty doesn't cover service unless repairs are required. The owner's manual says that should the machine stop (as it does now), just to run small loads. So if we call out the Lowes serviceman, he'll prove that the machine runs light loads, and we'd have to pay him for telling us what we already know since the machine "works".
Meanwhile, the old 1960 Sears washer inherited from Gram is still going strong at our son's apartment. Made in the USA.
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 03, 2011 06:42 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..(oZfic) is cat piss at December 03, 2011 06:43 AM (SH3gZ)
Well, that would be cheaper than replacing it, so I'll give it another shot with a little independent guy who needs the work.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 06:43 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: rockmom at December 03, 2011 06:44 AM (A0UFZ)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..(oZfic) is cat piss at December 03, 2011 06:44 AM (SH3gZ)
Posted by: real joe at December 03, 2011 06:45 AM (w7Lv+)
Posted by: er at December 03, 2011 06:46 AM (aKiIq)
Posted by: real joe at December 03, 2011 06:46 AM (w7Lv+)
Posted by: er at December 03, 2011 06:49 AM (aKiIq)
Posted by: rockmom at December 03, 2011 06:49 AM (A0UFZ)
Posted by: HH at December 03, 2011 06:51 AM (KB0hv)
Posted by: rockmom at December 03, 2011 06:51 AM (A0UFZ)
Save energy!
Save water!
Save the planet!
So, we have energy saving appliances which don't cook properly (save the E-Coli!)
Water-saving machines which use nearly twice as much water due to the need to re-wash our clothes and dishes.
And, although they won't admit it, I feel 100% certain that that government was somehow involved in this bullshit as well. It now stinks to high heaven and customers have been complaining for two years.
Let's save the planet, but keep on filling up the landfills with throwaways.
Good plan.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 06:52 AM (piMMO)
You're saying that the flip Housing speculation (even with the McCain savings and loan corporate fraud) halted the aerospace engineering US manufacturing field twice in the 1980s?
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 03, 2011 06:52 AM (lpWVn)
I was almost gonna get True Grit to watch tonight.
Changed my mind. Will not watch any movie with Matt Damon in it. And Josh Brolin is a jerkoff and a lousy actor, too.
Posted by: soothsayer at December 03, 2011 06:53 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 06:53 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..(oZfic) is cat piss at December 03, 2011 06:55 AM (SH3gZ)
You could voice the same complaints about many of the newer transportation modules sold today.
When I first broke into the repair business, you took your busted auto to the shop, they removed the offending part, repaired it, reinstalled and off you went. Now it's all module replacement, discarding perfectly good sub-assemblies,because cars are "high tech".
Way too much importance is is given to tech for it's own sake, imho. Not because it is required.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 03, 2011 06:55 AM (SAMxH)
Someone else said that the other year. Small comfort, being the one stuck with the pretty lemon.
Consumers: read the damned owner's manual before making a purchase. If there's any inference that the user is expected to accept noises and low capacity performance, go figure.
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 03, 2011 06:58 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: rockmom at December 03, 2011 10:49 AM (A0UFZ)
Thanks to OWS, we know why the enviroweenies enthusiastically blessed us with low flow toilets: they take a crap anywhere they damn well please...
Posted by: No Whining at December 03, 2011 06:58 AM (Og1Kk)
We are fast approaching the Soviet Union of the 1950's in terms of usability of our household appliances.
Posted by: real joe at December 03, 2011 06:59 AM (w7Lv+)
If an adult with a family is having to support them at minimum wage for more than a blink of an eye, they are doing something, very, very wrong.
If they started out making minimum wage and couldn't work well or hard enough to even get annual increases, then they aren't trying hard enough.
If they were pushed out of another job making more money and can't negotiate their resume into at least a little better than minimum wage, even at a fast food joint, again, they are doing something very, very wrong.
If I lost my job and the only job I could get was at McDonald's, I guarantee you I'd be managing the place inside a year.
My guess would be that many of us here started out in fast food in our teens and none of us ever intended to be working the drive thru window years later. If someone is complaining that they can't support themselves on minimum wage, then I'd suggest they develop a plan for getting either a raise, or a new line of work.
Minimum wage isn't SUPPOSED to be a lifestyle.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 07:00 AM (piMMO)
OK, since we are sort of on the subject of cleaning, a question for y'all. How do you get grease (from food) stains out of your clothes? I swear I've tried most products, but they just don't work! Pisses me off to no end.
Any suggestions?
Posted by: HH at December 03, 2011 07:02 AM (KB0hv)
I've said here before that the moment the government bans SUVs and pickups I'm going into the business of restoring old trucks.
The junkyard owners will be our new overlords.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 07:02 AM (piMMO)
OK, since we are sort of on the subject of cleaning, a question for y'all. How do you get grease (from food) stains out of your clothes? I swear I've tried most products, but they just don't work! Pisses me off to no end.
Any suggestions?
It's best to take it to a dry cleaner and let them take a whack at it. I've been amazed at how they've saved clothes I thought for certain were ruined.
And, whatever the stain, just come clean with them about it. It's not like it would be the first time someone spilled K-Y on a garment.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 07:04 AM (piMMO)
I will mail you my address if you do--it's what I do as a hobby now.
Given a market, there's good money to be made restoring old vehicles.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 03, 2011 07:06 AM (SAMxH)
No, no it would not.
Posted by: Mister Christopher at December 03, 2011 07:06 AM (cjGZv)
I have been blessed with my Jeep. Other than oil changes and one bulb change, not a single thing has gone wrong with it...thus far. However, I just passed the 36k miles mark so, we'll see. The good news is that the powertrain is covered for several more years and I have an extended warranty for all but the frivolous stuff like the heated seats.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 07:07 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..(oZfic) is cat piss at December 03, 2011 07:07 AM (SH3gZ)
Posted by: moki at December 03, 2011 07:08 AM (dZmFh)
Given a market, there's good money to be made restoring old vehicles.
Let's hope it never comes to that.
I can't even imagine an America without Jeeps.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 07:09 AM (piMMO)
My first post paper route job was as a dishwasher at an occasionally 4-star restaurant. I worked there from just before I turned 15 until I went to college. I was walking home (not too far and in a quiet part of town) at 2 AM with soaking wet clothes on three or four nights a week during high school. Made a relative shitload of money and learned to drink at the same time. Win-win. Sadly, the restaurant building itself (a refurbished bread factory) was demolished years ago and replaced with a McDonald's.
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 03, 2011 07:10 AM (Qjh0I)
ugh
Posted by: chemjeff at December 03, 2011 07:10 AM (s7mIC)
If you do use Dawn, which is great on grease, buy the clear kind so that you aren't then stuck with trying to remove the blue stain you acquired while removing the old stain.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 07:11 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: moki at December 03, 2011 07:11 AM (dZmFh)
ugh
Yep. I bought mine in November 2008 and still love it. It's not a Jeep Jeep, it's a Grand Cherokee, but I do love it dearly.
I'd love to have an old Wrangler to take out on the weekends.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 07:12 AM (piMMO)
Immediacy matters as much as which first chemical is applied to any stain. That much we know. I've found that baking soda removes the set grime on enamel around the gas stove elements better than the fluid or powdered cleaning products. Cheaper and gentler on the skin, too. I've kept open boxes of soda beside the stove as first response grease fire retardant for decades, but only figured on trying it cleaning a couple of months ago.
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 03, 2011 07:13 AM (lpWVn)
How many does that make? Huntsman declined, right? Anyone else?
Posted by: Tami at December 03, 2011 07:14 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 11:04 AM (piMMO)
Heh. Naw, I'm just talking about eating a burger or pizza and it spills on your shirt or lap. I've tried those stain removers, and none of them seem to work. They have for blood, but not grease.
And yes, the blood was my own after an accidently cutting myself.
Posted by: HH at December 03, 2011 07:14 AM (KB0hv)
I washed dishes, at 15, in a seafood restaurant. Let's just say that I never ate at that restaurant again.
Just a guess here, but I bet that, even at 16, you were making better than minimum wage.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 07:14 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..(oZfic) is cat piss at December 03, 2011 07:15 AM (SH3gZ)
No more sensors and computered cars and appliances.
that would actually be nice,
can't personally fix anything these days . remember when you car started hiccuping and a carb was the only thing you had to really do?
and don't make me talk about aluminum heads,
rant over. maybe
Posted by: willow at December 03, 2011 07:15 AM (h+qn8)
Maybe we can goad everyone but Gingrich, Romney and Perry into refusing to attend and then boot Trump out of the moderator's seat at the last minute.
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 03, 2011 07:17 AM (Qjh0I)
Yes it is, which is why I keep a box in the bathroom and use it as my facial scrub.
Just don't underestimate it since it feels so mile and scrub too hard because it will take the skin off your nose.
Speaking from experience here.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 07:17 AM (piMMO)
"Mr Herman Cain doesn't chase skirts; he chases solutions for America."
--Alveda King
vid here
Mrs King says Herb had a low libido because he was recovering from chemotherapy to treat his cancer. So, yeah, Ginger White is lying because Herb couldn't get wood.
Really. Not making it up.
Posted by: soothsayer at December 03, 2011 07:17 AM (sqkOB)
rejects Trump debate, "beneath the office of the Presidency and flies in the face of that officeÂ’s history and dignity."
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 03, 2011 07:18 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: rockmom at December 03, 2011 07:18 AM (A0UFZ)
Yup, and every time I took on a new undesirable shift/ responsibility /whatever, the owner would give me a small hourly raise. By the time I was eighteen, I was probably making 2 to 3 times minimum wage.
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 03, 2011 07:19 AM (Qjh0I)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 03, 2011 11:17 AM (Qjh0I)
We'd need a nuclear device to remove Trump.
Posted by: Tami at December 03, 2011 07:19 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: HH at December 03, 2011 07:19 AM (KB0hv)
I used that same lame excuse for the same reasons to my wife over the same time period.
Worked like a charm, but I really don't recommend it as choice #1.
Posted by: jwb7605 at December 03, 2011 07:20 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 03, 2011 07:22 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..(oZfic) is cat piss at December 03, 2011 07:22 AM (SH3gZ)
It's so sad because I really like Herman Cain.
He's being accused of philandering, and now he has women defending him by saying he's impotent.
Posted by: soothsayer at December 03, 2011 07:22 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 03, 2011 07:22 AM (SLSkf)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..(oZfic) is cat piss at December 03, 2011 07:22 AM (SH3gZ)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..(oZfic) is cat piss at December 03, 2011 07:23 AM (SH3gZ)
We have a transportation module ( for wifey, it's an 01 Camry) but for me a 24 year old SUV. I refuse to buy a newer vehicle until mine flat shits the bed.
But for real fun there's the brand new 68 Plymouth, lovingly restored for only an arm and a leg.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 03, 2011 07:24 AM (SAMxH)
heh, just lookin at that pic of Mitt and Ted Kennedy posted below by Ace
Ted Kennedy is dead and the man next to him, Sal DiMasi, former MA Speaker of the House, just began his federal prison term this week.
Posted by: soothsayer at December 03, 2011 07:26 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..(oZfic) is cat piss at December 03, 2011 11:23 AM (SH3gZ)
They blow the shofar? Boy, those Jews really know how to treat the help.
Posted by: Classic Jokes at December 03, 2011 07:26 AM (X3lox)
But the ultimate question remains, what comes of any endorsement? How much do I allow my mind to not think but simply absorb propaganda's imagery in ads?
I'm determining my vote on platform agenda. Just because some politician gets paid off with promises in order to secure an endorsement for another politician doesn't buy my vote.
The "charismatic" vote elected Obama. Americans better admit what charisma looks like. So the Pied Piper beckons. What has that tune to do with achieving the hard work in order for posterity to have a valuable US Dollar, our domestic manufacturing base with real jobs, invigorated infrastructure, and national security? Rather, the result of buying charisma with your vote is the sacrifice of the next generation, wasted on securing fraud.
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 03, 2011 09:41 AM (lpWVn)
Well, I had hoped GOP primary voters were a good bit different in their candidate-picking thought processes, but after watching the primary process this time around, I'm not so sure they are. An endorsement may not change your mind or mine (they do impact my view of someone negatively at times, depending on the endorser), but since I don't see any logical, rational reason for most of these candidates to have had the support they have now or have had in the past few weeks or months, I'm sure what an endorsement will or won't do. I guess that I'm worried that GOP voters have turned out to be just as susceptible to "oooo! shiny!" politicians and political strategy as Dems are; most of the folks who hang out here excepted of course.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 03, 2011 07:27 AM (rLhp2)
I once bought a Chevette from the kids up the street for $100.
Fixed the transmission for $15, and drove it for 3 years.
Sold it to my daughter for $100 (her "first car").
She drove it for 2 years, and sold it to one of my co-workers for $200.
Who drove it for another 2 years, and sold it to her brother for $300.
The brother finally looked me up, and wanted to know if I knew where he could get another one just like that. The car had over 400,000 miles on it.
Posted by: jwb7605 at December 03, 2011 07:29 AM (Qxe/p)
If I'm not mistaken (I might be skipping someone) this will be the third CONSECUTIVE Speaker of the House to be (at least) indicted, but the first of them to do time. Ahhh, the joys of one-Party rule.
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 03, 2011 07:29 AM (Qjh0I)
Always thought it was something to earn while proving you were worth paying more.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 03, 2011 07:29 AM (SAMxH)
Posted by: MDH3 at December 03, 2011 07:30 AM (GKyUC)
Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 03, 2011 07:32 AM (rLhp2)
He's being accused of philandering, and now he has women defending him by saying he's impotent.
I'm not saddened by his demise. He was accused of sexual harassment and did not confide in his wife. He had a relationship with a "troubled" woman to whom he gave money. He, again, did not tell his wife.
That, in itself, speaks volumes to me.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 07:33 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..(oZfic) is cat piss at December 03, 2011 07:33 AM (SH3gZ)
I suppose we're just old-fashioned that way.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 07:33 AM (piMMO)
I've bitched about the uselessness of front load washers here before. We're on our second set. I HATE the damn things. I would KILL to have our ancient top load GE washer back again.
Not too long ago I took a bunch of my shirts to one of our properties between tenants to wash in a top load we have there. They came clean!
I wept.
Grease spots?
You too?
I used to splatter grease all over my polos, throw them in the old top load days later, and they'd come clean. Now I get a spot on a shirt, I run into the laundry room, tear it off and spray it with shout and wash, only to set the stain.
The best thing I've found is to tear it off, and make a paste out of oxy-clean, and scrub it again and again with a toothbrush, let it sit for a couple of hours, then wash. Also a product called "krud kutter" works wonders on some things.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at December 03, 2011 07:35 AM (Qxdfp)
Posted by: dogfish at December 03, 2011 07:35 AM (N2yhW)
Adequate storage is never fully appreciated until you live in a 70 year old home.
I literally dream of closet space and a dedicate laundry room.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 07:35 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: eman at December 03, 2011 07:36 AM (tOywJ)
I don't think he actually had a physical affair (been there, done that)
Not confiding in the 'better half' crosses my personal dotted line.
If his wife doesn't doubt his commitment, she should start.
Posted by: jwb7605 at December 03, 2011 07:37 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 03, 2011 07:37 AM (XE2Oo)
Posted by: irongrampa at December 03, 2011 11:24 AM (SAMxH)
Jay Leno said the car hobby is where you buy one for $5,000, put $20,000 into restoring it and sell it for $10,000.
Posted by: real joe at December 03, 2011 07:39 AM (w7Lv+)
At the very least Herman Cain lacks the decency not to get involved with other women in secret from his wife.
Is he bangin them? Who knows.
Posted by: soothsayer perry at December 03, 2011 07:39 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: dogfish at December 03, 2011 07:40 AM (N2yhW)
If you were accused of something that threatened your career and your reputation....
If someone accused you of something of which you were completely innocent...
If you had loving and trusting counsel at home...
To whom would you turn for support?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 07:40 AM (piMMO)
Are they true?
BTW, I do not mean "do they hurt his campaign?"; I mean are they true.
Posted by: eman at December 03, 2011 11:36 AM (tOywJ)
I think something happened that shouldn't have happened with at least some of these women...how much or to what degree who knows. (shrug) Either way, it at least showed how not qualified he was for the job he was running for and, thank goodness, before he had become the nominee.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 03, 2011 07:41 AM (rLhp2)
it's possible a man that has a strong set of values can have an area where He is weak. anyway painful for his family if true.
Posted by: willow at December 03, 2011 07:41 AM (h+qn8)
that would actually be nice,
can't personally fix anything these days . remember when you car started hiccuping and a carb was the only thing you had to really do?
Remember 1/2 hp per cid, 7-12 mpg, brown clouds over every city, getting it tuned up every 1-2 years and it'd only run right @that weather combo, annoying symptoms that go away by the time you get to the shop, etc.
Posted by: DaveA at December 03, 2011 07:41 AM (1kXSm)
Are they true?
BTW, I do not mean "do they hurt his campaign?"; I mean are they true.
Posted by: eman at December 03, 2011 11:36 AM (tOywJ)
True or not, the accusations are certainly closer to reality and more in line with our Constitution than his 999 plan was.
I like Cain, but that plan was beyond ridiculous and no conservative in his right mind should have ever found anything of value in it.
Posted by: really ... at December 03, 2011 07:42 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: eman at December 03, 2011 07:42 AM (tOywJ)
Obviously, she is telling the truth.
We know that he gave her money. He admitted as much.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 07:43 AM (piMMO)
Dave why do you Hate the poor?
Posted by: willow at December 03, 2011 07:44 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: eman at December 03, 2011 07:45 AM (tOywJ)
Re: Herman Cain
Where there is smoke, there is fire. I do not believe the Chicago bitches who said Herm crammed their heads into his lap. I do believe the latest woman who accuses Herm of the affair. Giving her $$ without telling the little woman sealed it for me. Whatever. Herman Cain might be a likable guy and an efficient CEO, but president material his is not. I expect a president to at least know as much about civics and foriegn affairs as an 8th grade teacher, and Herm doesn't rise to that level.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 03, 2011 07:46 AM (jucos)
For which the only reasonable explanation is.....?
She was out of a job and he had a kind heart.
If I were his wife, I'd be wondering right about now how many other secret friendships and financial contributions he had made to "troubled women" over the years.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 07:46 AM (piMMO)
question is: why is Herb even involved with this woman?
How does one get hooked up with so many crazy froot loops?
Posted by: soothsayer perry at December 03, 2011 07:46 AM (sqkOB)
Herb is not just some guy.
Herman Cain's path should not be crossing the paths of Ginger White or Sharon Beelick or whatever her name is.
Posted by: soothsayer perry at December 03, 2011 07:48 AM (sqkOB)
Plausible deniability?
Oh! You said "how".
I was thinking "why".
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 07:49 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 03, 2011 07:50 AM (XE2Oo)
Posted by: eman at December 03, 2011 07:50 AM (tOywJ)
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 03, 2011 07:50 AM (SLSkf)
This one time, a woman asked me to help her with a stuck zipper.
I then asked her to help me with my zipper.
That is all that happened!
Posted by: Herman Cain: Superfly at December 03, 2011 07:51 AM (piMMO)
Remember that story a few years ago about the vicar? who went to the hospital to have a potato removed from his rectum?
He said he was hanging curtains in his kitchen and fell down and landed on the potato.
Anyone remember that?
Posted by: soothsayer perry at December 03, 2011 07:53 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: willow at December 03, 2011 07:54 AM (h+qn8)
It proves that he is dishonest to the one person with whom he should be most honest.
For the rest of us, it is the I don't know that person, okay I know them but I don't KNOW them, okay, well, I was just friends, okay, so I actually helped her with money....
It's like trying to herd cats and, despite his headgear of choice, he ain't no wrangler.
Posted by: Herman Cain: Superfly at December 03, 2011 07:55 AM (piMMO)
He said he was hanging curtains in his kitchen and fell down and landed on the potato.
Anyone remember that?
Posted by: soothsayer perry at December 03, 2011 11:53 AM (sqkOB)
I'd buy that story if it were a pineapple.
Posted by: really ... at December 03, 2011 07:55 AM (X3lox)
I was walking down the street one day and I tripped and somehow when I landed I found my penis in Ginger White's ass.
Posted by: Herb Cain at December 03, 2011 07:56 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 03, 2011 07:56 AM (vzFJV)
We are fast approaching the Soviet Union of the 1950's in terms of usability of our household appliances.
include the availability of products on shelves as one of the ways we are approaching being like any communist country from the 50s on. Another reminder to all to stock up on benadryl, especially children's benadryl, because the FDA is continuing to monkey around at Johnson & Johnson because of "product violations" aka donating to the wrong political party.
Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlInSeattle at December 03, 2011 07:57 AM (RZ8pf)
"Mr Herman Cain doesn't chase skirts; he chases solutions for America."
--Alveda King
No, Alveda. Herman Cain chases both skirts and solutions for cronies.
Dragging America through another Clinton period of denial "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" makes he chases solutions for America another liar's lie. It isn't as if going to church or working for a church or having high principles makes a person or organization above the fray of practicing deception. For the public good? Vomit, right along with covering up ANY pastoral sexual advances outside of matrimony, whether it's a priest sodomizing children or the married MLKjr. consensual sexual relations with women other than his wife, even if the spouses of pastors permit husband's cavorting as with the Kennedy clan and many politicians.
It's no use defending Cain's sexual relations by denying them. And it's demeaning for everyone to keep trotting out ladies on his behalf to make such statements as "he'd have to have a split personality." Mrs. Cain should have stayed out of it, issuing no statement, certainly nothing beyond "I know all about it, and have no further comment." As an American, I don't want to have to deal with any politician's sex life or deceit.
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 03, 2011 07:57 AM (lpWVn)
October 2008
A Sheffield vicar, a potato, and curtains...
...nurse Trudi Watson told the paper: "He explained to me, quite sincerely, he had been hanging curtains naked in he kitchen when he fell backwards on to the kitchen table and on to a potato."
Posted by: soothie at December 03, 2011 07:59 AM (sqkOB)
Had this thought earlier today when mom got back from the grocery (complaining about shelves 1/2 empty), and when I helped her go grocery shopping a few weeks ago. And we live in the middle of a cluster of upper-middle class neighborhoods...
"IN SOVIET AMERICA..."
Posted by: Ranba Ral at December 03, 2011 08:00 AM (G99e4)
nickless,
Were you the moron who was looking at the metal bracelet from Atlas Shrugged? (Someone was on a thread last week but I've forgotten who.)
In any event, that bracelet can be had via a site called Etsy.com for half the price that the moron quoted.
Good morning, all! I just sent off my first Christmas package this morning. Five more to go, but I've asked hubby to handle three of them (his side of the family).
Posted by: Y-not, Perrynista in Utah at December 03, 2011 08:00 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: sTevo at December 03, 2011 08:01 AM (VMcEw)
How do you get grease (from food) stains out of your clothes? I swear I've tried most products, but they just don't work! Pisses me off to no end.
Some ONT chemistry Morons solved this problem for us this past summer. Go to Home Depot or Lowe's and buy a box of TSP, Trisodium Phosphate. That's the stuff they took out of your dishwasher and clothes detergents. It helps break up grease. It's about $10 for a 4 lb. box and lasts quite a while. For sink or dishwasher, add 1/4 teaspoon. For a full load of laundry, add 1 tablespoon.
I also found something called "Totally Awesome" at Dollar General. You're supposed to dilute it as an all-purpose cleaner, but if you spray it full-strength on greasy (baconz) skillets or on grease stains in laundry, it'll git 'er done. The other laundry failsafe is that brown soap they sell on the top shelf at the grocery store, Fels Naptha. When the washer is filling up, wet the edge of that soap and work it into a laundry stain, then throw it in.
Posted by: RushBabe at December 03, 2011 08:01 AM (tQHzJ)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2011 08:01 AM (Gc/Qi)
"She was out of a job and he had a kind heart."
As associate pastor, Cain could EASILY have established a fund specifically to aid indigent single mothers and directed his "legitimate" financial contributions to her that way.
There's reason why Mrs. Cain stays at home by choice. She's not ignorant of her husband's habits.
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 03, 2011 08:03 AM (lpWVn)
What's the alternative?
I guess you could say that the potato sprouted legs and leaped into your bum hole.
Posted by: soothie at December 03, 2011 08:03 AM (sqkOB)
Anyone remember that?
Was it Richard Prior or Eddie Murphy who told the story about Jim Brown being caught in bed with another woman and turning the accusation around on her with You gonna believe me or your lying eyes?!?
Posted by: Herman Cain: Superfly at December 03, 2011 08:04 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 03, 2011 08:04 AM (Gk2lv)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2011 12:01 PM (Gc/Qi)
Clinton was excellent at picking up women. He just preferred the lowest, most powerless women he could find. That was a big part of Clinton's pathology.
Cain is just as good at picking up women as he is running for the Presidency. He gets a little action, but it ends up pretty ugly.
Posted by: really ... at December 03, 2011 08:04 AM (X3lox)
Yeah.
I should have used the *sarc tag on that I suppose.
Posted by: Herman Cain: Superfly at December 03, 2011 08:05 AM (piMMO)
I don't and I don't buy the idea that older cars are cheaper to repair or keep running. That extra gas, tune-up and bronchitis costs money. Whether fewer more expensive digital R&Rs wind up costing more or less than the regular analog fiddly bits I don't know. My brother (3 kids & 1 wife all notoriously bad drivers) keeps a rotating stable of zombies going. Add a code reader to the regular tool box, internet forums and in a few hours you can shade-tree your way back on the road.
Posted by: DaveA at December 03, 2011 08:05 AM (1kXSm)
Perry was on Jay Leno Thursday night. I'm a bit surprised Ace didn't mention it, because he was quite good.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 03, 2011 08:05 AM (Lpdzt)
Remember True Colors? I'd love to know the story behind the daughter of the restaurant owner.
Posted by: Herman Cain: Superfly at December 03, 2011 08:06 AM (piMMO)
Perhaps it's because the money didn't come from his household budget...
Posted by: chemjeff at December 03, 2011 08:06 AM (s7mIC)
And is a must for washing down walls prior to a new coat of paint.
Posted by: Herman Cain: Superfly at December 03, 2011 08:08 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: ontherocks at December 03, 2011 08:08 AM (HBqDo)
Yeah, I'm starting to think that, too.
My impression of their marriage is that it isn't much of a marriage. Look, a lot of people of a certain generation will not get divorced, but lead pretty separate lives. And it works for them, so fine.
So I don't think if he drops out over what he claims is an innocent relationship it has anything to do with his wife (or family). I think it will be because he was monkeying around financially and he wants the investigations to stop.
Posted by: Y-not, Perrynista in Utah at December 03, 2011 08:09 AM (5H6zj)
wet the edge of that soap and work it into a laundry stain, then throw it in.
Funny you should mention that. I knew someone years ago who said pretty much the same thing. Not the specifics, but that rubbing bar soap gets rid of grease stains.
So #1, I'm going to try the bar soap.
Or#2, Lean forward when I eat.
Posted by: HH at December 03, 2011 08:10 AM (KB0hv)
I worked with a guy who was caught by his neighbor, with his girlfriend, in Florida.
If you are running for office, this rule needs to be expanded to continents. Don't screw around on your own continent.
I can see already my rule didn't work for DSK. Oh well.
Posted by: sTevo at December 03, 2011 08:10 AM (VMcEw)
As one of our moronettes observed this week, if ace is a shill for Perry, he's doing a lousy job of it.
Posted by: Y-not, Perrynista in Utah at December 03, 2011 08:10 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2011 08:10 AM (Gc/Qi)
I eat in the nude and never get food stains on my clothes.
I do everything in the nude. It's quite efficient.
Posted by: British Vicar at December 03, 2011 08:11 AM (sqkOB)
I must be missing something. How does that meaningfully change anything? What? It came out of his play money?
His allowance?
Posted by: Herman Cain: Superfly at December 03, 2011 08:11 AM (piMMO)
I won't deny the tech improvements at all, but all the personality has been engineered out of the newer transportation modules. To me, they have all the appeal of a rotted tree stump.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 03, 2011 08:13 AM (SAMxH)
What if it came out of the NRA's budget or wherever he was working at the time? Or campaign budgets (if he still had money left over from those earlier campaigns)?
Posted by: Y-not, Perrynista in Utah at December 03, 2011 08:13 AM (5H6zj)
I'm guessing that they didn't live in Florida.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 08:13 AM (piMMO)
Don't follow those amounts religiously, though - TSP is somewhat corrosive so it will over time damage your pipes if you use too much. Just use some trial and error testing, and only use the minimum amount necessary to get the job done.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 03, 2011 08:14 AM (s7mIC)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2011 08:14 AM (Gc/Qi)
Wild thing
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 03, 2011 08:15 AM (lpWVn)
It's not about the money, it's about the fact that all these situations with women were hidden from his wife.
Has anyone yet heard of a poor, desperate man coming forward and saying Herman Cain helped him in his time of need?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 08:15 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 08:16 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 03, 2011 08:17 AM (SLSkf)
Posted by: Herman Cain: Superfly at December 03, 2011 12:06 PM (piMMO)
I forget which Clinton scandal that was supposed to represent. I got a kick out of how they turned Begala into a girl. Truth in casting.
That was a fun movie, though. It was also one of the best campaign ads for Hillary ever, as she appeared to have a brain and actually be competent at something - not the sort of brain-dead dolt who can't get an accurate translation of one, single English word into Russian from the State Department for a very public diplomatic act that was supposed to express the new state of affairs between us and the only nation on Earth that could actually annihilate us, physically. Well, she did get the message across accurately, but retards never have any problem getting their retardation across, especially malevolent retards.
Posted by: really ... at December 03, 2011 08:17 AM (X3lox)
Narcissist to the nth degree, eh?
And afternoon all!
$10 for three sheets? I'll go out on a limb here and say that's not going to be a big seller this year.
Posted by: Retread at December 03, 2011 08:17 AM (ALZZ7)
Well, if it meant that Cain was paying these women with "work funds" then it means that on a financial level, Cain wasn't using "household money" without the wife's knowledge. If in Cain's mind he regarded it as a "charitable business expense" or something. It is still wrong on an ethical level I agree but it does change the financial picture a bit.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 03, 2011 08:18 AM (s7mIC)
Don't follow those amounts religiously, though - TSP is somewhat corrosive so it will over time damage your pipes if you use too much.
But wouldn't it be the same amount of corrosion that would've occured if you could still get the good laundry and dish detergent? Or was the formulation different and using the straight stuff, albeit in smaller amounts, corrodes faster?
I've still got 3 boxes of bootleg dish detergent, but alas my laundry detergent supply has run out. The liquid detergent seems to be working OK, but I've found you pretty much have to get the stain out before you put it in the wash or it won't come out.
Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlInSeattle at December 03, 2011 08:19 AM (RZ8pf)
Well in his interview with Hannity, Cain did say that he donated money to men too. Don't know if that's been verified or not though.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 03, 2011 08:19 AM (s7mIC)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 03, 2011 08:20 AM (XE2Oo)
Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlInSeattle at December 03, 2011 08:20 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: mike at December 03, 2011 08:22 AM (/8MOU)
And possibly worse than that. He could have essentially been stealing from the companies/organizations. And we know that if a candidate uses campaign money to pay off his mistress, that's illegal. So if he still had money from his Senate run or even from that brief POTUS run that I think he did in 2000 (?), he could be in trouble for using that.
I think it's a loveless marriage that he's in. Just my hunch. But they seem to spend a lot of time apart. So I really don't care about the wife betrayal angle. I care more about the fact that he seems to have been very unprofessional as CEO - partying with staff, possibly fooling around with them, and possibly carrying on with other folks he met through work.
Posted by: Y-not, Perrynista in Utah at December 03, 2011 08:22 AM (5H6zj)
Yes, the formulation is likely different in the old-style commercial TSP detergent.
Where did you get the good detergent?
Posted by: chemjeff at December 03, 2011 08:22 AM (s7mIC)
Where's Cain's "Back On Your Feet" Foundation? He hasn't even created his own charity; rather, inserted himself as a charitable institution's leader given his incidental salary.
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 03, 2011 08:23 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Y-not, Perrynista in Utah at December 03, 2011 08:25 AM (5H6zj)
What are ethics without faith and religion.
Uh oh, This brings us back around to the ace-vs-religion thread.
Posted by: sTevo at December 03, 2011 08:26 AM (VMcEw)
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 03, 2011 08:28 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2011 08:31 AM (Gc/Qi)
Got a box of TSP out in the garage - worked at a hardware store when I was a kid in the 70's. As mentioned we used to use it before painting walls too.
Did you know that our brilliant legislators decided since we were poisoning ourselves with raw Chicken that they'd start washing said birds in TSP before sale? So now, besides washing your hands wash the hell out of that damn chicken!
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at December 03, 2011 08:31 AM (Qxdfp)
@nationaljournal In the hours before Cain's big announcement, he's been calling GOP rivals:
Posted by: Tami at December 03, 2011 08:32 AM (X6akg)
That was me with the Rearden Steel bracelet queries. Thanks for the response. I did look at that site (Etsy) and found what I think you meant. A woman who handcrafts her own selling them for $85.00. She seems to be a legit vendor who makes quality stuff and I'm considering whether to go that route right now. She requires 2-3 weeks to make the things plus shipping time, so I'm up against a hard deadline of today. In my name is a link to the Etsy one, compared to the one shown at "atlasshruggedpart1 dot com / bracelet" (remove spaces). I'm giving myself until 3 pm to shit or get off the pot.
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 03, 2011 08:33 AM (Qjh0I)
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Well, I hope to shit he sucks it up and stops blaming Perry, but I haven't seen any indication that he can get over his personal dislike for the man.
Posted by: Y-not, Perrynista in Utah at December 03, 2011 08:33 AM (5H6zj)
I think you should go for it. The beauty is that at that price you are well under your budget so you can augment with other nice things. You could put together a pretty gift basket or something.
My husband has gotten me quite a lot of nice (as in "fun" not diamonds or anything) jewelry via Etsy and has been really pleased with the service. (IIRC the Ace of Spades earrings from last year and the Wrigley Field ones were from Etsy. The latter are really nice blocks of green Wrigley seat wood set in high quality silver settings.)
Posted by: Y-not, Perrynista in Utah at December 03, 2011 08:37 AM (5H6zj)
At that price you can order it and even if it's late you can have a gift basket for Christmas and give her the bracelet for New Year's or something and seem like you planned it that way.
Posted by: Y-not, Perrynista in Utah at December 03, 2011 08:38 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Tami at December 03, 2011 08:40 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Y-not, Perrynista in Utah at December 03, 2011 08:41 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: IreneFingIrene at December 03, 2011 08:42 AM (/VMLD)
Where did you get the good detergent?
Our dish detergent ban went into effect a year ago last summer, so before it went into effect I bought a bunch of boxes. It is still good, some clumping, but I just shake it, still cleaning the dishes though. I assume there is a time past which it will lose its effectiveness but at a year and a half it still works.
Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlInSeattle at December 03, 2011 08:42 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 03, 2011 08:43 AM (Qjh0I)
Had he ever once said that he and his wife had been through a rough spot, that would be different. That is not what he has claimed. Thus far, from all appearances, he has been dishonest, possibly unfaithful, to his wife with whom he claims a remarkable bond.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 08:45 AM (piMMO)
It is okay on PVC pipes.
But it will over time corrode any metal pipes or metal pipe joints.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 03, 2011 08:49 AM (s7mIC)
The TSP will last indefinitely.
They put the kibosh on phosphates in laundry detergents almost 20 years ago, it's just the dish detergent that recently got it. Algae in lakes.
Front load laundry washers don't work because of the lack of water, and the HE detergent that suppresses foaming doesn't help any. I did try some "non" HE detergent once, and it looked like a fire extinguisher went off in the washer.
Window washers use TSP to wash windows - it's strong stuff as chemjeff has mentioned use small amounts.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at December 03, 2011 08:58 AM (Qxdfp)
Posted by: vika ut sig at December 03, 2011 08:59 AM (gvlTU)
Lots of odd shit coming to light, like a bag of children's baby teeth. I'm assuming their from my kids, unless the Missus has a night stalking thing going on that I don't know about.
Posted by: toby928© at December 03, 2011 09:01 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: toby928© at December 03, 2011 09:06 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: toby928© at December 03, 2011 09:08 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: steevy at December 03, 2011 09:08 AM (7WJOC)
I switched over just in time to see the Jaw Horse commercial.
I want one!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 09:10 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2011 09:11 AM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: vika ut sig at December 03, 2011 09:12 AM (gvlTU)
If he were accused, rightly or wrongly, of sexual harassment, and his job and reputation were on the line, and he never even mentioned it to his wife, then he is dishonest. (Hi. How was your day, Herman?)
If he were helping a desperate woman with funds from his employer, he is corrupt. (From his family's account, refer to previous bullet point.)
If he honestly thought that he could run for POTUS and none of this come out, then he is a fool.
None of these scenarios lend credibility to his fitness to lead this nation.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2011 09:17 AM (piMMO)
"Imagine that the Greenland Ice Sheet was going to collapse and raise the sea level 7 meters, I'm not saying that's happening now, or that it will happen, but just imagine."
Now lets run 10 minutes of disaster imagery based on this unlikely premise.
Posted by: toby928© at December 03, 2011 09:23 AM (GTbGH)
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Posted by: Jim Oberg at December 03, 2011 10:23 AM (x1cuw)
Posted by: irongrampa
Get a newer hotter module then, I drove a B2000 pu, then a Grand National, a Maserati BiTurbo (soured me on carbuerators), a 1997 Grand Prix GTP and now a 2006 GTO. The goat is comfortable enough for multi-day trips and steers and brakes better than any of the prior cars. Plus it goes right by a raped ape like he was sitting there with a banana.
Posted by: DaveA at December 03, 2011 11:16 AM (1kXSm)
fuggedaboudit, It didn't register on my meter at AOSHQ level settings.
Posted by: DaveA at December 03, 2011 11:19 AM (1kXSm)
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Posted by: Truman North at December 03, 2011 03:52 AM (I2LwF)