March 27, 2011
— DrewM Well, this is certainly a red letter day in our
Reuters news agency quoted one Nato official as saying: "Nato has decided today to implement all aspects of the UN resolution 1973 to protect civilians and civilian-populated areas under threat of attack from the Gaddafi regime."Nato Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said the takeover by Nato was "immediate".
However one diplomat, quoted by Associated Press, said the logistics of the transfer from US leadership could take several days.
Our correspondent says precise operational details have not been revealed by Nato but there will be a high-level committee of representatives from all of the countries taking part, in order to give broad political guidance to the campaign.
The Nato announcement came after a week of heated discussion among members, with Turkey and France in particular wary of a Nato leading role
How many more planes and ships does NATO have that aren't already involved? Right, none. So instead of the USA Africa Command running the show a Canadian general (or some such person) will be in charge. Of course that officer will be working under the military head of NATO who happens to be...an American admiral.
All of this pretty much glosses over the fact that NATO is pretty much a US show anyway. Apparently the added value is, um, a committee to run the war on which Turkey (a country that doesn't want to get rid of Gadaffi or attack his military too hard) more or less gets a veto.
Welcome to the Obama administration definition of progress. Now that the US is out of the lead (at least technically) it will be safe for Obama to come out and talk tomorrow night about this war that we're not really in or actually in charge of.
Added: Below the fold a visual explanation of the Obama/NATO leadership switch.
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Posted by: toby928™ at March 27, 2011 12:00 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 27, 2011 12:02 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: richard mcenroe at March 27, 2011 12:03 PM (qvify)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 27, 2011 12:03 PM (kUaEF)
Only we are allowed to criticize the president!!
You're not allowed to criticize President McAwesome!
This is just like Iraq!
Posted by: erg Mcturd at March 27, 2011 12:05 PM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: toby928™ at March 27, 2011 04:00 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at March 27, 2011 12:06 PM (wjt+8)
We might muddle through. If we do, it was all Barry's doing, if we don't, blame Canada.
Posted by: toby928™ at March 27, 2011 12:07 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Meddler at March 27, 2011 12:08 PM (XDmNw)
Posted by: nickless at March 27, 2011 12:10 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Arbalest at March 27, 2011 12:10 PM (0uVho)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 27, 2011 12:11 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: i miss W at March 27, 2011 12:12 PM (Epj2t)
Turkey, the quasi-Islamist state that has already put its fingers in ours (and Israel's) eyes.
What can possibly go wrong?
Oh, and if it is true that the rebels are really Al-Queda, Hezbollah affiliated, should we change the acronym to NATO?
NATO - North Africa Terrorist Organizer
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 27, 2011 12:12 PM (c0A3e)
WHY are we not queuing up any land elements we can get going on short notice IN IRAQ... south of Al Quaim and the Euphrates... near what in OIF were known as H1 and H2.
Right on the boarder of SYRIA.
Fuck Libya. We can strangle them in their sleep.
Syria is the prize.
Posted by: I'm just asking, really at March 27, 2011 12:13 PM (0LZTz)
Posted by: Princess Leia at March 27, 2011 12:15 PM (cqZXM)
WTF?
VACAVILLE, Calif. -- Vacaville police said multiple pipe bombs have been located in the Browns Valley area on Sunday and have urged residents to be cautious.Investigators said the bombs have been wrapped to look like Sunday newspapers or other items that have been delivered to homes.
Posted by: lurker at March 27, 2011 12:15 PM (VQGEs)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 27, 2011 12:15 PM (kUaEF)
Syria is a crown jewel on the prize crown known as Iran. Without direct Iranian funding to Syria and Syrian-proxies like Hezbollah, Syria would be pretty much an non-entity. They probably couldn't even afford Nork help with their WMDs anymore.
27 Nato Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen
That's it, we're foghed.
Heh. Rush mentioned last week that all these Secretary-Generals of NATO sound like Bond villains.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 27, 2011 12:16 PM (c0A3e)
Hey, what did Nostradamus have to say about this?
Posted by: CDR M at March 27, 2011 12:16 PM (y67bA)
Posted by: I'm just asking, really at March 27, 2011 12:16 PM (0LZTz)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 27, 2011 12:17 PM (kUaEF)
My military assets are available, but of course I must command the entire theater of operations.
Posted by: The Pope at March 27, 2011 12:17 PM (P18+/)
Yeah, me neither.
Posted by: Ace's liver at March 27, 2011 12:17 PM (QgI7g)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 27, 2011 12:17 PM (kUaEF)
To clarify my point about Republicans pre-WWII...
From what I understand, Republicans and most Americans were content on being isolationists in 1940. People were worried Roosevelt was going to go to war to help Britain, but during his reelection campaign he promised not to send our men into the war.
So my understanding was that Republicans, pre-Pearl Harbor, definitely wanted to stay out of the war in Europe.
Posted by: Sunday Soothsayer at March 27, 2011 12:18 PM (sPHjn)
Don't think of NATO as a bunch of pussy socialist Euro states commanding American military personnel. Think of it as America's League of Super Friends.
Posted by: King Barry I "Piehole" at March 27, 2011 12:18 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: M Gadaffy at March 27, 2011 12:18 PM (Epj2t)
Hey, what did Nostradamus have to say about this?
Forget Nostro - he's a false prophet. Read Revelations and Ezekiel for what to expect next.
/I'm kidding...mostly.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 27, 2011 12:19 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: Hous Bin Pharteen at March 27, 2011 12:20 PM (V+/pV)
Don't think of NATO as a bunch of pussy socialist Euro states commanding American military personnel. Think of it as America's League of Super Friends.
Posted by: King Barry I "Piehole" at March 27, 2011 04:18 PM (QKKT0)
Palin Steele just got a boner.
Posted by: nickless at March 27, 2011 12:20 PM (MMC8r)
oh, did you hear this?
Gov Scott in FL said 'no thanks' to federal money for rail "for political reasons."* So a few MA Democrats said, "We'll take it!" Like it's free money, or something.
*gotta love ABC News
Posted by: Sunday Soothsayer at March 27, 2011 12:21 PM (sPHjn)
Understood, but Syria is where Iran is projecting it's Hezbollah nonsense. We have a real chance at tipping Syria NOW- like knocking Italy out of the fight against the Axis.
Posted by: I'm just asking, really at March 27, 2011 12:21 PM (0LZTz)
Posted by: i like blueberry muffins at March 27, 2011 12:22 PM (Epj2t)
Posted by: M Gadaffy at March 27, 2011 04:18 PM (Epj2t)
You were bluffin' with your muffin? Ewww.
Posted by: Lady Gaga at March 27, 2011 12:22 PM (BuYeH)
Posted by: Glenn Beck at March 27, 2011 12:22 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: oldsailor's poet at March 27, 2011 12:22 PM (oBXlb)
I've said it before and I'll say it again... Would somebody please buy Joe Biden a fucking train set?
Posted by: Johnny at March 27, 2011 12:23 PM (mhmc7)
Posted by: Berserker at March 27, 2011 12:23 PM (gWHrG)
at least one good thing about NATO taking over, Americans are still in charge of American military
next point, everyone knows this, who the hell does the fraud think he's fooling by saying there won't be an American face to this? most independents know this, repubs know this, the dems are too stupid to think for themselves and the world knows and sees this.
Frankly, i don't even understand why the hell we are doing this?!? who are these rebels? there is a UK telegraph story that the rebels have admitted al-queda is helping the rebels, why the hell are are we helping the rebels then???
at least with gaddfy we know how bad of a man he is, but he is a known evil, he is not al-queda, and now we are helping the rebels who are allied with al-queda?!?!
whether gaddafly goes or stays, we come out with a loss, if he stays, he's now one pissed off man with the resources to cause trouble as he did in the past, if he goes, al-queda friendly rebels take over.
how is this going to help America? and yes, it all come down to that, either it helps our interest or no. We're broke, unless its in our interest, we can't be doing things that aren't in our interest, if we weren't broke I could see all sorts of humanatarian efforts, that's fine.
we're borrowing from the chinease to fight another war in libya where we have no national interests. I don't understand any of this!
Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at March 27, 2011 12:23 PM (ACkhT)
and speaking of MA...
it's cold up here. 24 degrees this morning. It's been cold up here since October.
Which means that in July, the Global Warmists will issue a new report telling us Winter 2010/2011 was the hottest on record.
Posted by: Sunday Soothsayer at March 27, 2011 12:23 PM (sPHjn)
Posted by: i like blueberry muffins at March 27, 2011 04:22 PM (Epj2t)
--Happily stolen from Steyn.
Posted by: logprof at March 27, 2011 12:23 PM (BP6Z1)
yep. Charles Lindbergh was a big ole isolationist, until about the morning of December 7th, 1941. For some reason, he changed his mind, as did the rest of the country.
And yes, the Japs bombed Pearl, but Hitler declared war shortly thereafter.
Posted by: pep at March 27, 2011 12:26 PM (P18+/)
Posted by: Jon Carry's Boat at March 27, 2011 12:27 PM (N2Nxj)
yeah, I said the other day that if I was Israel I would be polishing my nukes. I would burn the whole fucking ME before getting invaded. It really is a live or die decision for them.
Posted by: Berserker at March 27, 2011 12:27 PM (gWHrG)
Posted by: Barack Obama the Magnificent at March 27, 2011 12:27 PM (Epj2t)
Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at March 27, 2011 04:23 PM (ACkhT)
Hate to break it to you but the MFM laps up everything Obummer does. Hook, line, and sinker. They'll say whatever the administration wants it to say. If Obummer says NATO is in charge with a wink, the MFM will say it to the American public with a straight face.
Posted by: Lady Gaga at March 27, 2011 12:28 PM (cqZXM)
"Nato has decided today to implement all aspects of the UN resolution 1973 to protect civilians and civilian-populated areas under threat of attack from the Gaddafi regime."
Sooo... NATO has decided to 'protect' a foreign countries citizens, from its own Government... how is that NOT a war of aggresion?
Annnnddddd.... still no vote from Congress...
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2011 12:28 PM (NtXW4)
This is a far more intelligent approach than anything I have seen coming from the White House. It has the additional virtue of reminding other bad actors that we don't forget. Naturally, it will never happen.
Posted by: pep at March 27, 2011 12:29 PM (P18+/)
yeah, and Obama should stop lying about what our Air Force is doing.
We [Obama] chose sides; we're not just protecting Libyans from GKaddafi.
Obama decided to help the 'rebels' whoever they are. He chose sides.
Posted by: Sunday Soothsayer at March 27, 2011 12:31 PM (sPHjn)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at March 27, 2011 12:32 PM (qIHlG)
I'ma thinkin' it might be the kind of strategic setback that gets Achmeddy-i-job whacked.
Posted by: I'm just asking, really at March 27, 2011 12:33 PM (0LZTz)
Okay, how did you get BuYeH as a hash? I don't remember seeing that before and I'm more than a little jealous.
Posted by: Peaches at March 27, 2011 12:34 PM (zxpIo)
Obama takes all four #1 seeds and all four fail to make the Final Four for the first time since 1957.
Too damn funny.
Posted by: Johnny at March 27, 2011 12:35 PM (mhmc7)
If we can go after Ghaddafi because of past terrorist actions, why can't we go after Syria and Assad for their past (and present) support of a terrorist organization that before 9/11 was responsible for more American deaths than any other such terrorist group?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 27, 2011 12:36 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at March 27, 2011 12:36 PM (qIHlG)
Obama decided to help the 'rebels' whoever they are. He chose sides.
Posted by: Sunday Soothsayer at March 27, 2011 04:31 PM (sPHjn)
Obama said he would "side with the Muslims" and he told the truth in this instance, but the rest of his high-minded proclamations are lies.Posted by: Fish the Impaler at March 27, 2011 12:36 PM (ZHsNw)
Posted by: George Orwell at March 27, 2011 12:37 PM (AZGON)
/prophet mode on
Two things are brewing now because of Obama, Sarkozy, and Cameron.
1. This escalating mess is backing the dictactors into a corner and one of them will act rashly.
2. This is a perfect opportunity for North Korea to do something really stupid to seek attention.
Either case, a mushroom cloud will ensue.
/prophet mode off
Posted by: Sunday Soothsayer at March 27, 2011 12:37 PM (sPHjn)
Posted by: oldsailor's poet at March 27, 2011 12:38 PM (oBXlb)
Posted by: Delta Smelt at March 27, 2011 12:38 PM (dWPyO)
oh, and just wait until next week or so when Obama goes to Congress for a supplemental to fund this ill-conceived mission
Posted by: Sunday Soothsayer at March 27, 2011 12:39 PM (sPHjn)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 27, 2011 12:40 PM (7wmOW)
..a moron and asshole............
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 27, 2011 04:40 PM (7wmOW)
Considering when you're posting, that's probably a compliment.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at March 27, 2011 12:41 PM (ZHsNw)
Posted by: B. Hussein Obama on the cell phone, near the putting green at March 27, 2011 12:41 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Barry S. at March 27, 2011 12:42 PM (zxpIo)
Hey, what did Nostradamus have to say about this?
Posted by: CDR M at March 27, 2011 04:16 PM (y67bA)
When the skinny chocolate rises to the big chair,
In Libya fire, brimstone, bad couture,
The witch of Arkansas flees to Sagittarius.
Posted by: Hey, it makes as much stuff as the other predictions at March 27, 2011 12:43 PM (Nvw83)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at March 27, 2011 04:36 PM (qIHlG)
--Whatever it takes.
I want Gus Johnson to call the VCU-Butler game!
Posted by: logprof at March 27, 2011 12:46 PM (BP6Z1)
Okay, how did you get BuYeH as a hash? I don't remember seeing that before and I'm more than a little jealous.
Posted by: Peaches at March 27, 2011 04:34 PM (zxpIo)
Heh. I don't know. I keep getting new ones here at work. JSetW is another one.
Posted by: CDR M at March 27, 2011 12:47 PM (Mv/2X)
someones bracket is totally toasted now!!!
Posted by: itchytriggerfinger at March 27, 2011 12:48 PM (2KFyP)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 27, 2011 12:48 PM (7utQ2)
Posted by: Baracket Obama at March 27, 2011 12:50 PM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: Sunday Soothsayer at March 27, 2011 04:37 PM (sPHjn)
This 'rebellion' is all in lead up to the coming Caliphate. The Moslem Brotherhood will control all these uprisings (as they are now taking control of the political reapproachment in Egypt), and will soon start to band together into a 'Greater Caliphate' structured as an Islam based 'Union' (think EU but with teeth).
They will gain GREAT Face (in the oriental concept) by 'tricking' the US into helping them gain power, thus showing they are the 'Strong Horse'... and thus gain control of the MidEast oil assets... and will then hold the Wests Economy in its grip...
All the while Hussein Obama will dither... allowing them to gain control.
Posted by: Cassandra at March 27, 2011 12:50 PM (NtXW4)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 27, 2011 12:53 PM (/KbPl)
About 25 years ago I started reading his "prophecies" but didn't make it too far in. The one thing I did remember was he (supposedly) predicted that the Eagle and the Bear would need to join forces to beat the Dragon, or some such shit.
Of course, Nostradmus speaks to us through interpretations by others. You know, the same way that history is "framed" by journolists.
Posted by: Whatever! at March 27, 2011 12:54 PM (piMMO)
All the while Hussein Obama will dither... allowing them to gain control.
Carter's foreign policy screw-up, Iran, has been working against us for over 30 years. When Barack Hussein Obama, mmm, mmm, mmm, is finished, we may have several more Irans in the ME, all flush with oil cash.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 27, 2011 12:54 PM (c0A3e)
I guess the only silver lining is that we can stop playing this "our moderate Muslim friends need our help fighting extremist Muslims" farce.
Posted by: Johnny at March 27, 2011 12:55 PM (mhmc7)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 27, 2011 04:53 PM (/KbPl)
--As Shaq would say, it's worse than horrible, worse than awful: it's horrawful.
Posted by: logprof at March 27, 2011 12:56 PM (BP6Z1)
What? Kansas lost? No, the b-ball party is still on, I don't have much else to do anyway.
Yeah, I'm bummed too so I'm gonna play another nine.
Later, white boy!
Posted by: President Wormburner McMulligan at March 27, 2011 12:56 PM (QisdI)
So this will be Obama's I did not have sexual relations with that woman moment?....
It depends on what your definition of NATO is.
If by NATO you mean, unilateral, world-backed, unprecedented, not-American then Yes! I'm a black president bringing the world together.
If by NATO you mean America's arms, money, toys then .....I'm the first, unprecedented black President you assholes. See first definition motherfuckers, or Homeland security will be at your house ASAP. Damn right wing terrorists.
Michelle, Michelle, those white crackers be questioning me again. Where's my damn manicurist? Where's my fruity drink with the damn umbrella? Where's my adoring fans sound track?
Posted by: momma at March 27, 2011 01:03 PM (penCf)
Posted by: Johnny at March 27, 2011 01:06 PM (mhmc7)
March Madness this year was unprecedentedly outside the normal metrics of logic based handicapping.
Posted by: Barky the Dithering Dork at March 27, 2011 01:07 PM (ZHsNw)
Posted by: oldsailor's poet at March 27, 2011 01:08 PM (oBXlb)
Posted by: oldsailor's poet at March 27, 2011 05:08 PM (oBXlb)
Man you should've signed up for the Moron Fantasy League.
Posted by: CDR M at March 27, 2011 01:10 PM (JSetw)
Posted by: oldsailor's poet at March 27, 2011 01:12 PM (oBXlb)
Posted by: garrett at March 27, 2011 01:14 PM (UiiAv)
President Obama knows a lot about round ball, and I watched him shoot hoops in his tight short with his impressive manhood member and very large testes pressing firmly against his shorts. It was very hot, and I could feel tingles in my taco.
Posted by: Okra Winfrey, Obama Admirer at March 27, 2011 01:18 PM (ZHsNw)
______
You have to let the Caliphate form so you can smack it down.
Posted by: General N. Pelosi, strategic soopergenius at March 27, 2011 01:18 PM (6fER6)
I think that getting rid of Col Q was and is necessary. He knows how to run a country and has done it for 40 years. During that time, he's caused many American deaths, and looks to be the cause of Pan Am 103. He knows how to work the Western business world, and the Europeans, at least will likely give him just about everything he wants.
I speculate that Col Q's WMDs are now mostly Libyan-backed business concerns in Europe: individually, they look like reasonable, innocuous activities, but add certain select parts together, and something ugly appears. I speculate further that Saddam did the same, and that in 50 years or so, the pieces will slowly surface.
This is real Palin-Steele / Red Skull stuff, but when one has the desire and the money but no resources, and major players actively and effectively blocking efforts (and Col Q and Saddam fit this profile), the possibility is there.
Col Q has been a very serious threat for many years. Now that he sees who his friends are (not us or Europe), we can expect real trouble from him ... I wonder if he would base Iranian missiles in Benghazi ... more likely, the 90% of Libya that is desert ... he's a blackhead that needs to go.
I don't like the Muslim Brotherhood or other Islamics taking over countries, or even neighborhoods, but it looks like it might have happened in Egypt already.
Fortunately for us:
1. The successful rate of Islamics running countries is very low. Anything more advanced than a pre-industrial tribe is beyond them. Iran is a disaster, although it may not look it; Iran is decaying from an essentially modern 1978 through something in the '30s to ...
2. The Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamics have a non-Western mindset and attitudes and are very likely to act accordingly. Hassan "chop" Nasrallah and Mookie al-Sadr have the wisdom and maturity of 12 y.o.s, as do most of the clerics seen on Egyptian and Saudi TV. Remember al-Gomaa and his public quest for Mo's Temple of Poo (2006-2007 IIRC, before the other clerics at al-Azhar shut him up)? How about the Egyptian Cat-Meat Fool in Australia? Their actions will be public and wake up very many in the West.
3. A big slice of the Egyptian (and Libyan, Tunisian Algerian and Syrian, and certainly TURKISH) population are quite familiar with Western "stuff", satellite TV, cell phones, cars, shopping malls, and quite probably are also familiar with how life is under shari'a. Making the pilgramage to Mecca once, and experiencing shari'a as the Saudis implement it, might be acceptible ... but not being able to go home and leave it behind ... I think there will be lots of internal trouble ...
Bottom line:
1. Col Q and problems like him are serious threats, more so than the MB today and for the next few years. Flushing them now, for a cleaner bowl, males a lot of sense.
and
2. The Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamics are more likely to drive Egypt and Libya into abject poverty than to pose a serious threat to us TODAY and for the next several years. I think they are quite likely to anger their indigenous people, thus ending their credibility, perhaps forever.
... and 3:
3. Big 0's (and his personal staff's) abject incompetence in the Libyan affair is astounding, and everyone sees it. The longer he runs things his way, the more he bumbles and breaks things ...credibility, political loyalty, etc. The kinetic effects of his bumbling are astounding. Even the Left are quickly distancing themseles from Big 0, and I think it's more due to his apparent incompetence than his policy.
I can hardly wait to see the collisions generated by his next Teleprompter shot ... like golfing duffing in a china shop ...
Posted by: Arbalest at March 27, 2011 01:33 PM (0uVho)
Posted by: B. Hussein Bodine at March 27, 2011 01:38 PM (dYKl3)
But hey, we were equal partners on that necklace. And I, technically, had final say, so I guess I was the senior partner. And I put in a week's allowance, too, don't forget that.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at March 27, 2011 02:15 PM (QcFbt)
Posted by: oldsailor's poet at March 27, 2011 02:16 PM (oBXlb)
And for all that they're backwards savages, let's not forget that 19 of them slew 3000 of us with box cutters and plane tickets. Who do you see in DC that's going to stop all VISAs to the emerging caliphate?
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