October 12, 2011
— Ace Cain 27%, Romney 23%, Perry 16%.
After those three, itÂ’s Texas Rep. Ron Paul at 11 percent, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich at 8 percent, Bachmann at 5 percent and former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman at 3 percent.In the previous survey, conducted in late August, Perry led the field at 38 percent, Romney stood at 23 percent, while Cain was at only 5 percent.
A PPP poll has similar findings, except in that poll, Gingrich has slipped just barely ahead of Perry.
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Posted by: Rick Perry at October 12, 2011 02:51 PM (toCEh)
Posted by: tasker at October 12, 2011 02:52 PM (rJVPU)
Posted by: Random at October 12, 2011 02:52 PM (YiE0S)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at October 12, 2011 02:53 PM (rwu/6)
Posted by: Max Power at October 12, 2011 02:53 PM (q177U)
Obama is not going to......zzzzzzz......zzzzzzz.....zzzzzzz.....
Posted by: Rick Perry at October 12, 2011 02:54 PM (toCEh)
I know he's unelectable though. I'm conflicted.
Posted by: lorien1973 at October 12, 2011 02:54 PM (usXZy)
Posted by: tasker at October 12, 2011 02:54 PM (rJVPU)
Posted by: tasker at October 12, 2011 02:56 PM (rJVPU)
If we nominate Romney, it'll be a hard slog to the White House. Because there is little difference between Romney and Obama. Romneycare? Corn subsidies? Global warming? A woman's right to choose? Civil unions?
The only difference I see in policy is a few percentage points on the income tax rate. That, and Obama's more of a warmonger.
Posted by: Truman North, Bum Jew at October 12, 2011 02:56 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Tami-Cardinals! at October 12, 2011 02:56 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Vic at October 12, 2011 02:56 PM (M9Ie6)
I like Cain. He's not my first choice, but we could do a hell of a lot worse.
The guy has fire and connects to people's "pissed off" button.
He appeals to my "I want to see my Dad elected President" emotions.
Posted by: sifty at October 12, 2011 02:56 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: Heartlandvoter at October 12, 2011 02:57 PM (AkFx3)
Yeah. He's not our candidate, but damn he's been on fire lately. Press Secretary?
Posted by: sandy burger at October 12, 2011 02:57 PM (0U+Pz)
Posted by: That dumbass who always roots for the underdog at October 12, 2011 02:57 PM (BbX1b)
Posted by: Breaker19 at October 12, 2011 02:57 PM (ze29X)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at October 12, 2011 02:57 PM (rwu/6)
Posted by: soothie at October 12, 2011 02:58 PM (vanqS)
Posted by: PPP at October 12, 2011 02:58 PM (toCEh)
Only if Romney is our nominee.
Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough
Even if Romney wins the presidency, Obama gets reelected.
Posted by: Dang at October 12, 2011 03:00 PM (BbX1b)
in 2007-08, the MFM pushed McCain on us. Because he was the most like a Democrat.
In 2011-2012, they're pushing Romney, for the same reason.
Don't be a Romney.
Posted by: Truman North, Bum Jew at October 12, 2011 03:00 PM (I2LwF)
In follow-up interviews with respondents supporting Cain, they argue that heÂ’s not a politician, and that he seems real.
“Cain presents himself as a real person. He speaks from the heart. He is plainspoken and down to Earth,” added a 56-year-old female from Texas.
Poor lass, suffering from cooter vaccine induced delirium...
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 12, 2011 03:01 PM (/qkBU)
Most of the Palinistas I know, myself included, have moved over to Cain.
Posted by: Nr. Natural at October 12, 2011 03:02 PM (HvBzU)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 12, 2011 03:02 PM (vahvH)
Posted by: sandy burger at October 12, 2011 03:02 PM (0U+Pz)
Even if Romney wins the presidency, Obama gets reelected.
What did you think about George W. Bush in October 1999?
Posted by: FireHorse at October 12, 2011 03:02 PM (gyHyY)
Posted by: Dang at October 12, 2011 03:02 PM (BbX1b)
I like Cain. He's not my first choice, but we could do a hell of a lot worse.
You don't say.
Yep. I'm still clinging to Perry's raft for now. There is a whole heap more campaigning to be done. And there is more to the job than being able to bullshit with Charlie Rose and Karen "Mud Fence Face" Tumulty.
Perry / Cain winning in 2012 would tickle me shitless.
Posted by: sifty at October 12, 2011 03:03 PM (4CSeG)
We cats, not to be confused with sheeple, will not be herded by the GOP or the MFM.
Posted by: ontherocks at October 12, 2011 03:03 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: tasker at October 12, 2011 03:03 PM (rJVPU)
Posted by: AoSHQ's DarkLord© sez F--- Nevada! at October 12, 2011 03:04 PM (Fs7RJ)
Posted by: cvb at October 12, 2011 03:04 PM (HRFxR)
Posted by: Chilling the most for perry at October 12, 2011 03:04 PM (6IV8T)
That there was no f*ing way I was voting for Gore.
Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at October 12, 2011 03:05 PM (HtUdo)
Posted by: sifty at October 12, 2011 03:05 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 12, 2011 03:05 PM (ieDPL)
I agree. I just wish I had more confidence.
I'll vote for Perry (or Cain) over Obama. Romney, I'm honestly not sure yet.
Posted by: sandy burger at October 12, 2011 03:05 PM (0U+Pz)
Romney/Strong Conservative 2012
Posted by: Breaker19 at October 12, 2011 03:06 PM (ze29X)
and take that pile of shit Huffglue with it.
Posted by: sifty at October 12, 2011 03:06 PM (4CSeG)
We will not know who is ahead until we get to vote.
Posted by: sifty
Sorry, but Florida just moved its primary up to last September. Election's over.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 12, 2011 03:07 PM (/qkBU)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 12, 2011 03:07 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 12, 2011 03:08 PM (ieDPL)
Hmmmmmm, for some reason, Barack Obama just popped into my head.
Posted by: pep at October 12, 2011 03:08 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 12, 2011 07:05 PM
No, no, they'll go on forever and ever. Too big to fail!
Posted by: Compuserve at October 12, 2011 03:08 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: tasker at October 12, 2011 03:08 PM (rJVPU)
If I could take it upon myself to just select a President among all who are running, it would be Newt.
Problem is that me and pretty much everybody else who've followed him since the Dem/Media grand hit job that began on him in 1995 don't see how the image he's been stuck with for sixteen years can be overcome. Not to mention there is a bit of personal baggage he's earned along the way.
Is it possible? I mean by what scenario could he become acceptable to enough people to win? I know one thing. The annihilation he would exact upon BHO in a debate would be beyond sublime.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at October 12, 2011 03:08 PM (0DGtF)
Posted by: cvb at October 12, 2011 03:09 PM (HRFxR)
Romney/Strong Conservative 2012
Because of stupid asses like Georgette Surgery-Addict Munchausen of Tiffany's and Space Lord-Admiral Rience Priebus of Quillion 9.
Chutes and Ladders, maybe. Chess, no.
Posted by: sifty at October 12, 2011 03:09 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 12, 2011 07:05 PM (ieDPL)
--Yahoo, worthless?
Every fantasy football player here begs to differ. . . .
Posted by: logprof at October 12, 2011 03:09 PM (QaKuj)
This is the primaries, not the general. This is the time to vote for the person you'd really like to see become president. It's kind of a free vote, so to speak.
But once a nominee is selected, no matter who it turns out to be, we better start pulling together.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at October 12, 2011 03:09 PM (VGBuo)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius
I voted for Perry in London in 1772, bitches!
Posted by: Dang at October 12, 2011 03:10 PM (BbX1b)
Posted by: sandy burger at October 12, 2011 07:05 PM (0U+Pz)
Romney seems like a slimeball, Perry seems clueless and Cain seems genuine but unexperienced.
I'm going with Cain.
Posted by: ErikW at October 12, 2011 03:10 PM (ttNrU)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 12, 2011 07:05 PM
Any company in the world wide web is going to be rich forever!
Posted by: Netscape at October 12, 2011 03:10 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: cvb at October 12, 2011 03:10 PM (HRFxR)
Posted by: Melon at October 12, 2011 03:10 PM (IIbih)
Here's my election status...
Perry's asleep.
Cain will bring pain.
Romney won't say anything stupid.
Romney wins!
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at October 12, 2011 03:10 PM (OhYCU)
Who's less likely to show up on election day, Palin supporters or Romney's if he doesn't the nod?
Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at October 12, 2011 03:11 PM (HtUdo)
Posted by: tasker at October 12, 2011 03:11 PM (rJVPU)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 12, 2011 03:11 PM (vahvH)
Who doesn't like pizza? All of these supposed negatives for Cain only serve to endear him to small subsets of voters. Like the anti-jihai crowd knows where Cain is on the muzzies, and even though he "apologized" everyone knows there's no Rashid Khalidi tape of Cain out there.
Same with the whole "pizza price" thing. Regular people can understand that idea, and taxing everything at 9% is a pretty fair shake. Making fun of an understandable plan because of its understandability is pompous and denigrating.
Not to mention, everyone likes the magical old black guy. We've been conditioned for decades to trust him. Obama will always look like a young little squirt, and we can finally have the 1 and a half black guy election to put the nail in the "racism" coffin once and for all.
Posted by: imp at October 12, 2011 03:11 PM (UaxA0)
I went over to the NBC poll and the first thing I see at the top right corner of the page is an ad about how Republicans stole Florida from Gore and they're going to do it again via voter suppresion--I refused to read the article after that.
For the love of Pete, the media themselves with recounts showed that Gore lost. But apparently the stupid dies hard on the left...
Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 12, 2011 03:11 PM (vNpDB)
My dog polls better than Huntsman. The guy needs to just go away.
Posted by: Arms Merchant at October 12, 2011 03:11 PM (VKRmb)
Posted by: soothie at October 12, 2011 03:11 PM (ZgBZU)
Posted by: Dang at October 12, 2011 03:12 PM (BbX1b)
Posted by: tasker at October 12, 2011 03:12 PM (rJVPU)
Is that a joke?
Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at October 12, 2011 03:12 PM (HtUdo)
After the election
Posted by: Miss'80s at October 12, 2011 03:12 PM (d6QMz)
Erm, this might be the first correct use of the term "teabag" I've seen in some time. Sort of the way the iceberg "dominated" the Titanic.
Posted by: pep at October 12, 2011 03:12 PM (6TB1Z)
We cats, not to be confused with sheeple, will not be herded by the GOP or the MFM.
A cat should be our logo.
Cats come in all colors but none of them care about that.
A cat doesn't do much until there's a mouse in your home; then it's lethal.
Scruff a cat, it goes limp. Anger a cat, it draws blood.
Cats crap where they're supposed to.
Cats are choosy about which outsiders they get along with.
Maintaining a cat is a relatively inexpensive endeavor.
Posted by: FireHorse at October 12, 2011 03:12 PM (gyHyY)
I'll vote for the Honey Badger over Obama, warts and all.
Posted by: Doctor Fish at October 12, 2011 07:06 PM (Lt/Za)
I'll vote for anal warts over Obama.
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at October 12, 2011 03:12 PM (nxptv)
>>So, you'd vote for Obama over Romney? You must be a Palin supporter. Posted by: cvb
Punctuation is not your friend.
Posted by: Dr Spank at October 12, 2011 03:12 PM (toCEh)
Will he pause his election in September? Probably not.
Will he have the same talking points as Obama, just worded slightly different? Probably.
Posted by: lorien1973 at October 12, 2011 03:13 PM (usXZy)
That's a guy who's held a private sector job and has an actual written plan that people have seen, versus a known stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.
Yeah. Landslide Obama.
Posted by: nickless at October 12, 2011 03:13 PM (MMC8r)
Eeeek! A troll said Obama in a landslide. Double-eeek.
Obama's best hope is to suspend the election. Lots of luck to that.
Posted by: 141Driver at October 12, 2011 03:13 PM (/E3ql)
Posted by: That's RAAAAACIST! at October 12, 2011 03:13 PM (VCets)
The MFM has been stuffing a can of whoopass with Newt's name on it since he slapped around their other black President.
Posted by: sifty at October 12, 2011 03:14 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: Big T Party at October 12, 2011 03:14 PM (JM2AX)
Posted by: soothie at October 12, 2011 03:14 PM (YO+5B)
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at October 12, 2011 03:14 PM (OhYCU)
I'm definitely not a Palin supporter. But if we're gonna continue on this big government statist downward spiral, I'd rather it be branded "Democrat" than "Republican". The greatest danger now is that the public comes to believe that there is no alternative.
Posted by: sandy burger at October 12, 2011 03:14 PM (HfydS)
Posted by: Miss'80s at October 12, 2011 07:12 PM (d6QMz)
Ulsterman is a guilty pleasure of mine. I know it's probably bullshit but it's like therapy.
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at October 12, 2011 03:14 PM (nxptv)
There are, apparently, 3 times to do in Cleveland. Masturbate, cry, and write tax policy.
Posted by: lorien1973 at October 12, 2011 03:14 PM (usXZy)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 12, 2011 07:07 PM (/qkBU)
THREAD WINNER
Posted by: Truman North, Bum Jew at October 12, 2011 03:14 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Chilling the most for perry at October 12, 2011 03:15 PM (6IV8T)
You dream, General.
Posted by: Lord Cornwallis at October 12, 2011 03:15 PM (6TB1Z)
Are Newt's negatives really that insurmountable???
Posted by: Melon
"Here Nancy, a gift. It's a friendship bracelet."
"From Tiffany? Oh Newt, you shouldn't have!" *blushes*
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 12, 2011 03:15 PM (/qkBU)
Landslide Obama....
Posted by: cvb at October 12, 2011 07:04 PM (HRFxR)
--Did snap dragon change its nick?
Posted by: logprof at October 12, 2011 03:15 PM (QaKuj)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 12, 2011 03:15 PM (vahvH)
Posted by: tasker at October 12, 2011 03:16 PM (rJVPU)
He's totally fucking clueless.
Posted by: jeanne! with two N's and an E at October 12, 2011 03:16 PM (vLRqM)
Posted by: Big T Party at October 12, 2011 03:17 PM (JM2AX)
Next I would go for Cain and hope he doesn't do any more interviews with Chris Wallace. He doesn't have much of a dick left.
After that it comes down to the also ran idiots and Romney/Huntsman. Huntsman will drop out after NH, but he will probably be the only one as long as the MFM is giving free air time on "debates".
But then we have to look at the results of the Primary
Right now I will go stand in the rain (just like last time) to vote against Obama, definitely for anybody but Huntsman and Romney. I will even vote for that idiot Ron Paul!
Those two squishes I look at as probably just as bad as Obama, not to mention likely to result in the Republican Party going the way of the Whigs.
Posted by: Vic at October 12, 2011 03:17 PM (M9Ie6)
Though I am for Cain ( Cain 2012, with 15 trillion in debt, we need a yelling, screaming maniac), I realize there is still a long way to go until January 3.
Right now, I get the feeling he is at 'Eh...dunno' A good indicator if this is a real shift is he starts to raise funds on the level of Perry and Romney. At that point it'll be a 'Maaaaybee'. It's still too early and the field too crowded. Those who are below 5% need to drop out to really see clearly.
The debates will not be the last word on this.
As for these polls: 336 sample size, what a joke. PPP *spit*
Posted by: Warthog at October 12, 2011 03:17 PM (ZL8Ru)
Posted by: Melon
I'm through with you wingnuts forcing your right wing social engineering on the American people. Be gone!
Posted by: Newt at October 12, 2011 03:17 PM (EL+OC)
Yes, but Newt can't even get his numbers to move in the republican primary. How could he do it in the general?
Posted by: lorien1973 at October 12, 2011 03:17 PM (usXZy)
I don't care if it's the 7% solution, I'm voting for whoever is our nominee.
Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at October 12, 2011 03:17 PM (HtUdo)
Sources cannot confirm that GOP candidate for President, Herman Cain, is in any way tied to this matter, but we've reached out to the candidate for a response, but no answer was forthcoming. This seems rather suspicious and raises even more questions.
We'll stay on this story and continue to update as we uncover more of the truth.
Now, onto more important news regarding nude pics of Scarlett Johansson.
Posted by: MFM breaking news at October 12, 2011 03:18 PM (6RIj4)
Posted by: Big T Party at October 12, 2011 03:18 PM (JM2AX)
I just don't feel Cain comes across as "Presidential", whatever that means. I also feel like he is apt to make verbal gaffes which makes me nervous. He still seems like more of a Pizza CEO than leader of the free world.
Well we'll see. He needs to lose the glasses.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 12, 2011 03:19 PM (uVlA4)
Because a hated-RINO/beloved-conservative ticket is a proven winner.
Against Obama.
Shit worked like a charm.
Smoked dat punk.
And nothing bad came of it.
All upside.
And long and fruitful future for the Party was assured.
So yeah, more that.
Posted by: oblig. at October 12, 2011 03:19 PM (cePv8)
He's totally fucking clueless.
Posted by: jeanne! with two N's and an E at October 12, 2011 07:16 PM (vLRqM)
I honestly think his mind went blank and he just reached for the first name that came to mind. He had a total deer in the headlights look for a second before he blurted it out. But still, BAD answer. That and the 9% VAT are going to be hard to overcome. But I still love him anywhere on the ticket.
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at October 12, 2011 03:19 PM (nxptv)
"New Hampshire secretary of state Bill Gardner issued a memo today threatening to hold the New Hampshire primary in the first half of December if Nevada doesnÂ’t schedule its caucuses later than the current date, January 14."
Posted by: Miss'80s at October 12, 2011 03:19 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: Vercingetorix at October 12, 2011 03:19 PM (psCad)
Posted by: Damit!! Another lost comment!!! at October 12, 2011 03:20 PM (Hucnr)
The way she wraps her wrinkled lips around my chicken and just sucks the juices from my crinkled nuts. God it's awesome. Then to see her on TV, I know she just wants more. What a sexy minx she is!
Posted by: Alan Greenspan at October 12, 2011 03:20 PM (usXZy)
That's bumper sticker material right there.
Posted by: sandy burger at October 12, 2011 03:21 PM (HfydS)
Romney wins!
Posted by: cherry pi
Romney's 'yes but no' Too Big to Fail / TARP answer was smart, then?
Posted by: Kommendant Wasserman-Schultz at October 12, 2011 03:21 PM (kt1UQ)
Perry's problem is that he can't debate. I mean he's really terrible at it and should stop.
Posted by: Dr Spank at October 12, 2011 03:21 PM (toCEh)
Posted by: Alan Greenspan at October 12, 2011 07:20 PM (usXZy)
Allllrighty then....I didn't want dinner anyway.
Posted by: Tami-Cardinals! at October 12, 2011 03:22 PM (X6akg)
If Cain becomes the frontrunner, he needs to get a first class communications team around him.
Stop going on a bunch of bullshit talkshows with lefties who do nothing but spew Democratic talking points. You can't win going on these shows and playing defense.
Go directly to the people and shut the media OUT. Stay on the attack and don't let up. EVER.
If they start floating false stories about you: counterattack, dismiss, disengage: then go after Obama.
If they try to make the election about you: COUNTERATTACK, DISMISS, DISENGAGE - then go after Obama.
Posted by: stickety at October 12, 2011 03:22 PM (FUDwf)
Reelected Nov. 2012 ...Mayan Calendar End of the World Dec. 21, 2012.
I love it when a plan comes together.
Posted by: Paladin at October 12, 2011 03:22 PM (4kpbt)
Did Cain state he supported Affirmative Action (quotas) or not?
Posted by: Full Shouldered Whitey at October 12, 2011 03:22 PM (EL+OC)
OT, Is it true that Daley is leaving the WH? I read it at Ulsterman, and awhile ago the Insider said that would be the signal that the dem party has decided to abandon Barry...
After the election
No shit, everybody at the WH is leaving after the election, except housekeeping of course.
Posted by: imp at October 12, 2011 03:22 PM (UaxA0)
Romney doesn't scare the straights. He doesn't have to be smart.
Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at October 12, 2011 03:22 PM (HtUdo)
taking it with a grain of salt, but It does show Cain's recent momentum.
this poll also finds Mitt losing to Obama by 2 and Cain losing to him by 11
it's not the most accurate pollster, look to when Ras has things out
Posted by: Team Mitt's AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 12, 2011 03:23 PM (HhCkU)
Yeah, that's what it looked like to me, too.
Posted by: sandy burger at October 12, 2011 03:23 PM (HfydS)
Can I get in on this? Destroying business is my specialty.
Posted by: SCoaMF at October 12, 2011 03:23 PM (REXkU)
a Democrat, a Republican, an independent, or something else? (IF "DEMOCRAT" OR "REPUBLICAN," ASK
Would you call yourself a strong (Democrat/Republican) or not a very strong (Democrat/Republican)? (IF "NOT SURE," CODE AS "NOT VERY STRONG DEMOCRAT/REPUBLICAN.") (IF "INDEPENDENT," ASK
Do you think of yourself as closer to the Republican Party, closer to the Democratic Party, or do you think of yourself as strictly independent? (IF "NOT SURE," CODE AS "STRICTLY INDEPENDENT.")
Strong Democrat .........................16%
Not very strong Democrat ..............9% Independent/lean Democrat ..........15%
Strictly Independent......................19%
Independent/lean Republican........16%
Not very strong Republican ........... .8%
Strong Republican......................... 12%
Other (VOL)................................... 4%
Not sure.........................................1%
****
So only 12% of the respondents identified themselves as "strong Republicans"-
but the media is going to scream all over the place about the importance of this poll.
Posted by: tasker at October 12, 2011 03:24 PM (rJVPU)
"Well, this is well and good but we all know who the most qualified candidate is, and in fact, it's inevitable that he will be nominated, as well he should be."
(no thought to who might be the right man or woman to carry on Reagan's revolution, just flat out, we're paying for this, this is what we want and deserve)
He was of course speaking of one-termer G.H.W. Bush. I was a Kemp supporter and I just wanted to smack his self-satisfied, sanctimonious face.
Never. Again.
Posted by: Anyone but Romney at October 12, 2011 03:24 PM (VKRmb)
Posted by: Big T Party at October 12, 2011 03:24 PM (JM2AX)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 12, 2011 03:24 PM (vahvH)
Slip the jab, Rock! Slip the JAB! -Burgess Meredith
Herman Cain needs to spend a lot of time staring directly into the camera and not talking to harpies like Joyless Belard.
He connects with people when he is speaking to them, not when he is trying to engage hostile journalice.
Posted by: sifty at October 12, 2011 03:25 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: tasker at October 12, 2011 03:25 PM (rJVPU)
Reminds me of why I decided to start the Republican Party.
Posted by: Abe Lincoln at October 12, 2011 03:26 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 12, 2011 03:27 PM (ieDPL)
The problem is the third "9".
Once you institute a national sales tax, it will be there for good and all. Santorum was right when he mumbled that Cain wouldn't be President forever. President Andrew Cuomo or some similar douchenozzle in the 2020s would have no problem leaving it in place while raising the first two kinds of taxes.
Coupled with a repeal of the sixteenth amendment I like the idea. Otherwise it could be a pandora's box.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at October 12, 2011 03:27 PM (0DGtF)
Seriously, that's the best analysis I've read or heard about regarding the current situation.
Posted by: Mr_Write at October 12, 2011 03:27 PM (VJUQK)
Romney/Strong Conservative 2012
Posted by: Breaker19
You know, I genuinely went for that in 2008. I, no joke, actually went to the actuarial tables to check the probability of McCain kicking the bucket in office. The odds were such that I could vote for the ticket.
However, those 7-Up swilling Mormons tend to live forever, so that doesn't look like an option here.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 12, 2011 03:28 PM (/qkBU)
Posted by: King Putt at October 12, 2011 03:28 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Chilling the most for perry at October 12, 2011 03:28 PM (6IV8T)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 12, 2011 03:29 PM (ieDPL)
You should have popped him in his self-important, entitled face. Who knows, the world could have been very different.
Posted by: The Butterfly Effect at October 12, 2011 03:29 PM (K6bNI)
They just wanna rape people, that's why.
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 12, 2011 03:29 PM (usXZy)
Posted by: Mr_Write at October 12, 2011 03:29 PM (VJUQK)
He's totally fucking clueless.
Posted by: jeanne! with two N's and an E at October 12, 2011 07:16 PM (vLRqM)
This, this, this ^^^
BTW he said Alan Greenspan because it's the only other Fed cheif HES EVER HEARD OF
Also, did you see how fast he whiped out the race card on Perry? Fucker has it on a retractable lanyard, for christ sakes.
Posted by: Max Power at October 12, 2011 03:29 PM (Hucnr)
Isn't McCain dead? I haven't heard a word from him in like 3 years.
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 12, 2011 03:29 PM (usXZy)
After the election
No shit, everybody at the WH is leaving after the election, except housekeeping of course.
Daley is talking about leaving at a time when some in the White House are assuming reelection. That is not a good sign.
Posted by: Miss'80s at October 12, 2011 03:29 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: Spiker at October 12, 2011 03:29 PM (KESXl)
Posted by: Max Power at October 12, 2011 07:29 PM (Hucnr)
one point you got wrong
Cain said Greenspan because he worked under him, not because it was the only one he knew
Posted by: Team Mitt's AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 12, 2011 03:30 PM (HhCkU)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 12, 2011 03:30 PM (vahvH)
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 12, 2011 07:29 PM (usXZy)
He's resting. Having to talk like a conservative for months before his last election really took it out of him.
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at October 12, 2011 03:31 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Michelle Bachmom at October 12, 2011 03:31 PM (JM2AX)
Of course, I'd inject him with Gardasil to treat those warts.
Posted by: Y-not, Perry supporter and stabber of little girls at October 12, 2011 03:32 PM (5H6zj)
Do you try to mimic an Irish brogue when you say O'Reilly or O'Brian?
Give it a rest.
Posted by: sifty at October 12, 2011 03:32 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: izoneguy at October 12, 2011 03:33 PM (i6Neb)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 12, 2011 03:33 PM (ieDPL)
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at October 12, 2011 03:33 PM (u89vw)
Posted by: Big T Party at October 12, 2011 03:33 PM (JM2AX)
Posted by: soothie at October 12, 2011 03:34 PM (ZgBZU)
Posted by: Alan Greenspan at October 12, 2011 07:20 PM (usXZy)
Poor old fella must be suffering from dementia to keep going home to that hickory lookin' commie bint.
Posted by: ontherocks at October 12, 2011 03:34 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at October 12, 2011 03:34 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs Supports Rick Perry's Hair for President at October 12, 2011 03:34 PM (ukOVL)
Posted by: Big T Party at October 12, 2011 03:35 PM (JM2AX)
Yep. That's why we have to take over the GOP. Get off your asses and get involved.
Posted by: The Tea Party at October 12, 2011 03:35 PM (VKRmb)
Posted by: Village Idiot at October 12, 2011 03:35 PM (utXSy)
Posted by: izoneguy at October 12, 2011 07:33 PM (i6Neb)
Speakin' of which.....Barney Frank: The Community Reinvestment Act Was a ‘Republican Failure’
http://tinyurl.com/3h9auzx
Posted by: Tami-Cardinals! at October 12, 2011 03:36 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 12, 2011 03:36 PM (vahvH)
Posted by: sifty at October 12, 2011 03:36 PM (4CSeG)
If you told me a year ago that fuckers on here would be begging for a national sales tax, I would have said you were CRAZY!!!!!!
(not to be a dick but) WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!
Posted by: Max Power at October 12, 2011 03:36 PM (Hucnr)
It's true that they have a high burnout and turnover rate but they usually wait to publicly discuss such matters unless there is a bitter feud occurring or a loss of confidence. In Daley's case, he is being blamed for a number of Obama's recent mistakes, though that was inevitable.
Posted by: Miss'80s at October 12, 2011 03:36 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at October 12, 2011 07:33 PM (u89vw)
Romney aint picking Bachmann as VP, he's using her in the primaries to peel off Perry and Cain voters
Posted by: Team Mitt's AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 12, 2011 03:37 PM (HhCkU)
A smart moron. How did that happen?
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at October 12, 2011 03:38 PM (OhYCU)
The desire to see thousands of worthless bully IRS cocksuckers standing in the unemployment line is very strong.
Posted by: sifty at October 12, 2011 03:38 PM (4CSeG)
Little-known fact:
Most of the morons are actually smart, but the Val-U-Rite gets in the way.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at October 12, 2011 03:40 PM (bjRNS)
You poor woman. You actually think I'd pick you to be VP.
Posted by: sifty at October 12, 2011 03:40 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at October 12, 2011 03:41 PM (QcFbt)
Posted by: KG at October 12, 2011 03:41 PM (LD21B)
Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs Supports Rick Perry's Hair for President at October 12, 2011 03:41 PM (ukOVL)
I got news for you (gained from watching the wife run her small business): the taxman is still employed when you have a sales tax.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at October 12, 2011 03:42 PM (bjRNS)
While true would there be any debates? Two? One? None? I'm guessing one at most. Whatever the outcome - and Gingrich would would not only clean Obama's clock, he'd reset it to the Reagan administration - the debate would be considered an aberration. The MFM would see to that even if they weight it to be a "tie."
Nonetheless, I'm actually starting to lean to Newt, too. If meritocracy means anything, and we're basing our analysis on the debates, Newt is in another stratosphere compared to everyone else. He's just in so much command and the consummate professional both with facts and tone as to be dominant.
Could he win? Sure he could. Do I trust him? That's the eternal question. But he is the most Presidential at this point. Frankly, an empty chair could win in '12. I still believe that; so I'm not all that concerned about who gets to beat Obama if my only goal is to remove Obama. The backstop needs to be Congress, so that's really where I'm most concerned and optimistic from a Tea Party POV. Lock up Congress and a rogue president from either party can be checked... if it's serious.
So, for me, it's a serious, Tea Party led Congress which is key in 2012. Block Obama (should a miracle reelection happen) or the RINO (should the "next in line" happen).
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 12, 2011 03:42 PM (REXkU)
Posted by: sifty at October 12, 2011 07:40 PM (4CSeG)
+1, I actually find it incredible watching her go for the bait, notice when everyone had their chance to gangbang Romney in the debate she immeditely continued attacking Perry
Posted by: Team Mitt's AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 12, 2011 03:43 PM (HhCkU)
Guy talks too fas'. Comes on too strong. Has a complicated answer for everthang.
Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at October 12, 2011 03:43 PM (4sQwu)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 12, 2011 03:43 PM (vahvH)
Posted by: Dr Spank at October 12, 2011 03:44 PM (toCEh)
Posted by: jewells45, tea party terrorist at October 12, 2011 03:44 PM (Z71Vg)
Does Newt, sitting on a couch with Blinky, disqualify him as a "real" conservative?
Does Sarah Palin, running as McCain's VP choice, disqualify her as a "real" conservative?
Is Romney disqualified, because he gave the voters in Mass. something they wanted, and it doesn't fit your model of "real"?
Is Perry disqualified, because he thinks kids should be educated?
Is Reagan disqualified, because he gave amnesty to illegal aliens?
I think, we're missing something here.
It may be, that the "real" conservative is a figment of your imagination.. A "real" conservative might even scare the hell out of you.. It wouldn't be human.
/soapbox/rant=off>
Posted by: franksalterego at October 12, 2011 03:44 PM (9XykO)
That really made me dislike him a lot more.
Wait. Are you saying that Cain affecting the "po" black man accent is not bothering you, but Perry rolling his Rs is bothering you? Interesting selection process you've got there.
Posted by: Y-not at October 12, 2011 03:44 PM (5H6zj)
Oh I know, I know. But the gut reaction and the facts are seldom the same when it comes to the IRS.
Those Vogon maggots will always be around to pollute the place.
Posted by: sifty at October 12, 2011 03:44 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: logprof at October 12, 2011 03:44 PM (QaKuj)
Perry needs to be fucking Perry, BITCH. Every interview or debate I see of him before he announced told me, ya know, he could just make a good President.
+1
Posted by: Team Mitt's AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 12, 2011 03:45 PM (HhCkU)
Posted by: Reggie1971 at October 12, 2011 03:45 PM (0DGtF)
Posted by: Musky at October 12, 2011 06:56 PM (gyHyY)
------------------------------
Nice blast from the past
Posted by: Van Gopher at October 12, 2011 03:45 PM (xy9wk)
Posted by: Y-not at October 12, 2011 03:46 PM (5H6zj)
The presidency is not an entrance level job into politics and our fellow citizens know that. Cains nomination would be profoundly unserious. The 9-9-9 plan is a joke. To give the feds another tax to raise, without erasing the income tax is madness and its madness that will mutate into a VAT. Perry is dead to me, because Im heartless, Bachmann, the congresswoman from St.Olaf, is a loon, Santorum is a loser and the android posing as Romney must be avoided at any costs.
You know what? Fukkem! All of 'em! Its Newt all the way now.
Gingrich/Ryan 2012!
Posted by: Elize Nayden at October 12, 2011 03:46 PM (i4gLS)
He reminds me of Bob Dole in that regard. When he wasn't running for President, Dole was darkly funny and a biting wit. During his run, he was out there trying to be nice, which wasn't him.
It feels like Perry is taking too long to think about how he should look, instead of just answering.
I'm also wondering if he's an introvert, and tunes out if he's not involved.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at October 12, 2011 03:46 PM (bjRNS)
Perry's asleep.
Cain will bring pain.
Romney won't say anything stupid.
Romney wins!
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at October 12, 2011 07:10 PM (OhYCU)
+1
Posted by: Team Mitt's AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 12, 2011 03:46 PM (HhCkU)
Fuck it, you morons have convinced me that Romney's the devil.
That leaves Newt, and the hope that he can jujitsu the media's assault on him into a positive.
Posted by: JB at October 12, 2011 03:46 PM (7T+Mz)
Posted by: Dr Spank at October 12, 2011 03:46 PM (toCEh)
Posted by: Big T Party at October 12, 2011 07:24 PM (JM2AX)
If people can just wait until after this next election, then I most might join them. But please, wait until the 2012 election is over.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at October 12, 2011 03:47 PM (VGBuo)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 12, 2011 03:47 PM (vahvH)
I'm also wondering if he's an introvert, and tunes out if he's not involved.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at October 12, 2011 07:46 PM (bjRNS)
Unfortunately, I think he's come down with consultantitis.
Posted by: KG at October 12, 2011 03:47 PM (LD21B)
Posted by: Y-not at October 12, 2011 07:46 PM (5H6zj)
he'd be risking a Carter-Reagan 1980 debacle where 1 bad debate turned a normal race into an absolute electoral landslide
Posted by: Team Mitt's AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 12, 2011 03:47 PM (HhCkU)
Posted by: steevy at October 12, 2011 03:47 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at October 12, 2011 03:48 PM (QcFbt)
One was made as an obvious joke on himself and his own life experience. The other was a genuflection. Like Red Kennedy trying to sing in Spanish.
If Cain makes a habit of it, it is wrong. But I haven't seen that he does.
Posted by: sifty at October 12, 2011 03:48 PM (4CSeG)
I'd trust Newt more than I would Romney. He may be flawed, but he's a much more known quantity. He's also a creature of DC. He owes people in DC and would be predictable because of that.
To whom would Romney be beholden?
Posted by: Y-not at October 12, 2011 03:48 PM (5H6zj)
If people can just wait until after this next election, then I most might join them. But please, wait until the 2012 election is over.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at October 12, 2011 07:47 PM (VGBuo)
Ha! Join we much.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at October 12, 2011 03:48 PM (VGBuo)
Were you alive in 1980?
Carter did not lose because of a debate.
Posted by: Y-not at October 12, 2011 03:49 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Bosk at October 12, 2011 03:50 PM (n2K+4)
Posted by: Y-not at October 12, 2011 07:49 PM (5H6zj)
I was not alive but the facts dont lie
Reagan had a moderate polling lead on Carter and was on his way to a normal GOP victory, after the debate he was up 20 points and won w/ 500+ electoral votes
Posted by: Team Mitt's AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 12, 2011 03:51 PM (HhCkU)
Oh, absolutely Newt has acquitted himself properly in these all-important debates. He's risen above the Bachmann-Cain-Romney crowd for this little black duck.
Still voting Perry unless he drops out, but Newt's my back up.
Posted by: Y-not at October 12, 2011 03:52 PM (5H6zj)
Besides my 6 wives, no one.
Posted by: Mitt Romney at October 12, 2011 07:49 PM (toCEh)
THREAD WINNER
Posted by: Team Mitt's AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 12, 2011 03:52 PM (HhCkU)
Precisely. Perry's still my guy -- unless he proves to me that he's gotten old overnight -- but Newt's gaining.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at October 12, 2011 03:52 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 12, 2011 07:43 PM (vahvH)
He seems to use the "double quotations marks" when he speaks.
No lowered standards....yeah....ok Herman.
Posted by: Full Shouldered Whitey at October 12, 2011 03:52 PM (EL+OC)
Posted by: Mitt Romney at October 12, 2011 03:53 PM (toCEh)
Posted by: Miss'80s at October 12, 2011 03:53 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs Supports Rick Perry's Hair for President at October 12, 2011 03:54 PM (ukOVL)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 12, 2011 03:54 PM (vahvH)
Posted by: Y-not at October 12, 2011 07:52 PM (5H6zj)
duh, that and a horrible economic crisis
but Reagan got the landslide from the debate, it didn't win him the election but it gave him a bigger mandate
Posted by: Team Mitt's AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 12, 2011 03:54 PM (HhCkU)
Biden's stupidity has cleared the way for just about anyone with a pulse to be VP.
We'd get Newt in there and be able to put his smarts to use without him having any of his greentard tendencies come to anything.
Posted by: sifty at October 12, 2011 03:54 PM (4CSeG)
I saw that Romney had said that Christie would be on anyone's short list for VP. And after seeing he said that my thought was, "yeah that's because he can shore up potential weaknesses for other candidates with more moderate voters. With you all he does is reinforce your weaknesses. A Northeastern Moderate Republican squish that's shaky at best on the 2nd Amendment"
Posted by: buzzion at October 12, 2011 03:56 PM (GULKT)
I'm pretty sure it wasn't a sybian, it was a monkey rocker.
Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at October 12, 2011 03:56 PM (HtUdo)
Nah, he's right about the debate. A bunch of voters needed to be reassured that Reagan wasn't old and senile, and the debate did that. He didn't even need to win the debate -- just avoid looking like Admiral Stockdale.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at October 12, 2011 03:57 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: steevy at October 12, 2011 03:57 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: MrTea at October 12, 2011 03:57 PM (cZT2v)
for you Newt folks, Cain openly has said he'd look at him for a VP spot
Posted by: Team Mitt's AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 12, 2011 03:57 PM (HhCkU)
Posted by: Mitt Romney at October 12, 2011 07:53 PM (toCEh)
After what you did in Massachusetts I want your kidneys too. And look at that: a bottle of chianti...
Posted by: Elize Nayden at October 12, 2011 03:57 PM (i4gLS)
I was not alive but the facts dont lie
Reagan had a moderate polling lead on Carter and was on his way to a normal GOP victory, after the debate he was up 20 points and won w/ 500+ electoral
"Are you better off than you were four years ago?"
Most devastating line ever uttered in any debate I've ever seen.
Even Obama used it recently, though not quite to the same effect.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at October 12, 2011 03:58 PM (0DGtF)
Posted by: Bosk at October 12, 2011 03:58 PM (n2K+4)
It's possibuul. It's possibuul.
I was going to ask..that rings a bell, where's it from?
Posted by: USS Diversity at October 12, 2011 07:55 PM (aD5Kx)
--A cartoon about hillbilly animals from the Great Smokeys I watched as a kid. I think made by the same team that made Rocky and Bullwinkle.
Posted by: logprof at October 12, 2011 03:58 PM (QaKuj)
@96: "Erm, this might be the first correct use of the term "teabag" I've seen in some time. Sort of the way the iceberg "dominated" the Titanic."
The iceberg got the ball rolling, but I was the one who dominated the Titanic. Me an my boy fluid dynamics ran a train on that bitch. We gave her the old "Wavy H".
Posted by: The Freezing Waters of the North Atlantic at October 12, 2011 03:58 PM (xy9wk)
The people who listened to it on the radio said Nixon won the debate. The people who watched it on TV all said Kennedy won.
So why the difference? They shot Nixon from bad camera angles, they applied bad makeup, and they made him look like a bum with 5 o:clock shadow.
They have become a LOT more sophisticated now. Look at the hoard of idiots screaming because Perry didn't talk a lot last night. Have you reviewed the GD rules of the debates? You can't talk unless called upon! When they don't call on you you don't talk.
I haven't heard ONE of these dickweed MFM goons mention the rules.
And beginning with the first debate the questions haven't really been anything but gotcha shit designed to embarrass everybody but Romney.
Posted by: Vic at October 12, 2011 03:59 PM (M9Ie6)
Even Obama used it recently, though not quite to the same effect.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at October 12, 2011 07:58 PM (0DGtF)
Obama used that line? He must be trying to commit political suicide.
Well, more than he is already, at any rate.
Posted by: KG at October 12, 2011 03:59 PM (LD21B)
You're funny.
Posted by: Mitt Romney at October 12, 2011 04:00 PM (toCEh)
Posted by: Fart at October 12, 2011 04:00 PM (39HkA)
I read it was a Persian Peach Basket.
Posted by: sifty at October 12, 2011 04:01 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: MrTea at October 12, 2011 07:57 PM (cZT2v)
Not until after the election. Otherwise this country is truly fucked. (It may be truly fucked anyway)
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at October 12, 2011 04:01 PM (VGBuo)
I think we're looking at Romney/Cain as the GOP ticket.
The Powers That Be (both Democrat and Republican) know that they can't afford 4 more years of the SCOAMF, but they also know that the usual crazed wacko KosKids-type suspects will fire up the race war in order to keep him in office. They only way to dampen down that at all is to put another person-of-melanin-enhancement up on the opposing ticket.
BUT--TPTB have already pretty much put the fix in for Romney at the top of the ticket.
I think they're maneuvering Cain into a solid #2 position to draw the Tea Party types in, and also to increase the skin melanin content of the GOP ticket.
Put a fork in it, it's done.
/Tin foil hat off
Damn thing messes up my hair, and I don't have that much hair to mess up . . .
Posted by: filbert at October 12, 2011 04:01 PM (smvTK)
“It appeared to me that Herman Cain and Mitt Romney were the strongest performers. You could tell also, just by the way the questions were pitched, who was being picked on the most. And Mitt Romney and Herman Cain appear to be the frontrunners. Polling data seems to be backing that up.
[Cain]’s very talented. He’s a very endearing person; you meet him and he has a very magnetic personality. But, you know, they’re all talented. Mitt Romney has a very presidential swagger as well. We’ll see what happens. . . . I could support any one of these people, and will gladly do so.”
Posted by: Miss'80s at October 12, 2011 04:01 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: TC at October 12, 2011 04:02 PM (BAtLQ)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 12, 2011 04:02 PM (vahvH)
Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs Supports Rick Perry's Hair for President at October 12, 2011 04:02 PM (ukOVL)
I'll vote for the Honey Badger over Obama, warts and all.
Posted by: Doctor Fish at October 12, 2011 07:06 PM (Lt/Za)
I have no warts! Well, at least any that I give a shit about.
Posted by: The Honey Badger - still haunting the AoSHQ at October 12, 2011 04:03 PM (90BnA)
Oh well, a perfect candidate does not exist. It's ultimately a choice between him and Romney as I fully expect the Cain bubble to burst.
Posted by: JB at October 12, 2011 04:03 PM (7T+Mz)
Posted by: Marybel at October 12, 2011 04:03 PM (Hic+o)
I can only imagine what this race would look like if Roemer had been given just one fucking chance in a debate. He's brilliant, was a Congressman, a Governor, is a compelling speaker, and ran a successful bank. Had he participated in these debates this might just be a Roemer / Romney contest right now.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at October 12, 2011 04:04 PM (0DGtF)
Posted by: Ma Bell at October 12, 2011 04:04 PM (uVuwp)
AK! Soros!
Posted by: filbert at October 12, 2011 04:04 PM (smvTK)
Posted by: Mitt Romney's 5th Wife at October 12, 2011 04:04 PM (toCEh)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at October 12, 2011 04:05 PM (QcFbt)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at October 12, 2011 08:05 PM (QcFbt)
What, is that what they are calling terrorists these days? Union leaders?
I'm thinking that's a Freudian slip there.
Posted by: KG at October 12, 2011 04:06 PM (LD21B)
Posted by: Marybel at October 12, 2011 04:06 PM (Hic+o)
Newt's great. He was in my corner big time, so I'll return the favor.
Posted by: Dede Scuzzyfavabean at October 12, 2011 04:06 PM (6RIj4)
that's not the plan, that's just gravy on the plan.
Posted by: sifty at October 12, 2011 04:06 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: Marybel at October 12, 2011 08:03 PM (Hic+o)
a twinkie is a better choice then Obama
twinkie/cupcakes 2012!
Posted by: Team Mitt's AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 12, 2011 04:06 PM (HhCkU)
OK, then. So you agree that's not going to happen then, right?
It's only like 4 debates left.
Before year's end that is.
Posted by: JB at October 12, 2011 04:07 PM (7T+Mz)
Posted by: mpfs, TPT at October 12, 2011 04:08 PM (MNiPx)
if you had a tru gay rights repub u would ezly beat obama lolololol
ps u gonna eat that?
Posted by: Megan McCheese at October 12, 2011 04:08 PM (QaKuj)
At least the pimp has a real job and has turned a profit.
Posted by: sifty at October 12, 2011 04:08 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: steevy at October 12, 2011 04:09 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 12, 2011 04:09 PM (vahvH)
@176: "Isn't McCain dead? I haven't heard a word from him in like 3 years."
Of course not - there aren't many opportunities to torpedo his own party when it's largely been in the minority for most of that time.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at October 12, 2011 04:09 PM (xy9wk)
Krauthammer needs to get out of town for a while I don't know any Tea Partier who wants Christie or Daniels.
Fuck Ironside. He doesn't know hog jowls from horseshit.
Posted by: sifty at October 12, 2011 04:10 PM (4CSeG)
a twinkie is a better choice then Obama
twinkie/cupcakes 2012!
Posted by: Team Mitt's AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 12, 2011 08:06 PM (HhCkU)
now *that* ticket i can get behind lolololol
Posted by: Meghan McCheese at October 12, 2011 04:10 PM (QaKuj)
Are you fucking kidding me? Texas is turning brown with drought and Mexican's. No thanks Bubba.
Posted by: Full Shouldered Whitey at October 12, 2011 04:10 PM (EL+OC)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at October 12, 2011 04:11 PM (QcFbt)
Posted by: Megan McCheese at October 12, 2011 08:08 PM (QaKuj)
There's a stick of butter callin your name Fatty McButterpuss.
Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at October 12, 2011 04:12 PM (6IReR)
Posted by: steevy at October 12, 2011 04:13 PM (fyOgS)
Apparently a shitload of Mormons didn't get that memo. It may not be an orthodox part of their religion anymore but there's a not insignificant number still clinging to this, and the secret underwear.
Irony for you: I just came back from Salt Lake City and visited the Mormon museum there too.
Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs Supports Rick Perry's Hair for President at October 12, 2011 08:02 PM (ukOVL)
Mormons can still have more than one wife from temple marriages. As an example: A guy gets married in the temple which is recorded both as a civil marriage and a temple marriage. He gets a civil divorce but not a temple divorce. He then gets remarried again in the temple. Now is has one wife in a civil marriage, but he has two wives in a temple marriage. You can get a temple divorce, but they discourage it and make people jump through hoops.
Posted by: Apostate and Infidel in Utah at October 12, 2011 04:13 PM (90BnA)
Posted by: Team Mitt's AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 12, 2011 04:13 PM (HhCkU)
Damn right. Americans get to believe as they believe without a test. We wouldn't stand for it if he was getting flack for being Jewish.
I myself hope to pretend to be married to multiple women at once some day. Hopefully in Vegas at the top suite at Mandalay Bay.
Mormons have always done right by me and mine.
Posted by: sifty at October 12, 2011 04:13 PM (4CSeG)
I'm with this.
Cain = Gimmick.
I like him but he reminds me of the fun prize at the bottom of the Cracker Jack box -- a nice surprise - nothing more.
Posted by: lu at October 12, 2011 04:14 PM (wGFWv)
Posted by: TheGarbone at October 12, 2011 04:14 PM (O3f8/)
Posted by: Megan McCheese at October 12, 2011 08:08 PM (QaKuj)
That's what she said...
Posted by: Michael Scott at October 12, 2011 04:14 PM (90BnA)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at October 12, 2011 08:00 PM (qjUnn)
Agreed. The more I am looking at his 999 plan, the more it stinks. And you also brought up another good point about the debates. You smart!
Posted by: jewells45, tea party terrorist at October 12, 2011 04:15 PM (Z71Vg)
Posted by: TheGarbone at October 12, 2011 08:14 PM (O3f8/)
Ooooo, I'm intwigued!!!
Posted by: Barney Frank at October 12, 2011 04:15 PM (QaKuj)
Posted by: steevy at October 12, 2011 04:16 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at October 12, 2011 04:16 PM (QcFbt)
Even my mom started in on Perry yesterday and I had to educate her yet again. She was thrilled when he jumped in.. I said mom.. hang in there...
Posted by: jewells45, tea party terrorist at October 12, 2011 04:17 PM (Z71Vg)
Posted by: Michael Scott at October 12, 2011 08:14 PM (90BnA)
Thats what she always says, even when no food is arround...
Posted by: Elize Nayden at October 12, 2011 04:17 PM (i4gLS)
Posted by: Team Mitt's AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 12, 2011 08:13 PM (HhCkU)
either outside looking up for that stupid fucking blimp, or digging through the sofa for change to pay the pizza guy.
Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at October 12, 2011 04:17 PM (6IReR)
________
Multiple temple marriages mean nothing unless A) the Mormon church turns out to be true and B) the resurrection happens. 'Til then, it's just an entry in a book somewhere.
Posted by: Anachronda at October 12, 2011 04:18 PM (IrbU4)
Save the world for me while I'm gone.
Call if we start raining sunshine on Iran.
Posted by: sifty at October 12, 2011 04:18 PM (4CSeG)
"Man, I ain't gonna shit right for weeks" - I don't see how that's really relevant. Or did you mean earlier?
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at October 12, 2011 04:18 PM (xy9wk)
Posted by: steevy at October 12, 2011 04:18 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: SFGoth at October 12, 2011 04:19 PM (dZ756)
Posted by: Y-not at October 12, 2011 04:21 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Tom at October 12, 2011 04:22 PM (nQR0p)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at October 12, 2011 04:22 PM (QcFbt)
Human beings are creatures of habit. If he enters the WH with his Massachusetts governorship habits, that would suck majorly.
Posted by: JB at October 12, 2011 04:23 PM (7T+Mz)
Posted by: Herman Cain at October 12, 2011 04:23 PM (rJVPU)
Appointing good judges is one thing I believe [Mitt] will do.That is no small thing either.
Posted by: steevy
First appointee: Orrin Hatch
Second appointee: Richard Lugar
Off all the things Mittens would screw up, the Courts would be at the very top of the list.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 12, 2011 04:25 PM (/qkBU)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at October 12, 2011 04:26 PM (mGnwL)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at October 12, 2011 04:27 PM (QcFbt)
Comrade Mitt will fuck any gains conservatives have made. Cain's inexperience worries me. Bachmann is battier than Doktor Paul. Perry's still my guy, but he looks upset he got into this thing.
Second look at Newt in order?
Posted by: mugiwara at October 12, 2011 04:27 PM (KI/Ch)
Posted by: Sheriff Slow Joe at October 12, 2011 04:27 PM (R3k3C)
Um, those wars were declared. Just because the words "Declaration of War" were not uttered by Congress doesn't change that. Historically, Congress doesn't like those words, and they've used them much less frequently than you'd think -- but they still authorize military action.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at October 12, 2011 04:27 PM (bjRNS)
Patient care so bad, it's a crime. Neglect of old in 5th of hospitals breaks law, says report
"One in five hospitals is breaking the law in its level of neglect of the elderly, a damning report revealed yesterday.
The Care Quality Commission found at least 20 hospitals where care was so poor that patients were denied ‘the basics in life’ – eating, drinking and going to the toilet.
This was a fifth of the hospitals investigated by the Government watchdog.
It warned that staff in some NHS trusts were ‘putting paperwork over people’.
[Imagine that.......]
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 12, 2011 04:28 PM (ycuSb)
Does anybody think that Perry might be doing a rope-a-dope with the field. I have met him and spent some time around his team - he and they are very impressive, and smart, political people. This is really noticable in the post debate Q and A at Dartmouth (over at Redstate), he is really, really good. I find it almost impossible to believe that he remains quiet and slow in the debates but pours it on 10 minutes later. I think he is letting the Cains, Bachmans and Newts have their 15 minutes of fame while setting the stage for the "dummy" to come back after they flame out.??? Followed by several high profile governor endorsements (Palin?) Remember he has been RGA chairman twice.
Posted by: hutzul at October 12, 2011 04:30 PM (o3WGI)
Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 12, 2011 04:30 PM (qvify)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 12, 2011 04:31 PM (aYQHH)
Posted by: steevy at October 12, 2011 04:32 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 12, 2011 04:32 PM (qvify)
Please no one put him out...
Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 12, 2011 04:32 PM (84oau)
350
Romney has selected Robert Bork to be part of his legal advisory team. That kinda indicates to me that he's not exactly a lock to load the court with a bunch of Souters.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at October 12, 2011 04:32 PM (0DGtF)
Cain is offering them for ... wait for it... $9.99
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at October 12, 2011 04:32 PM (OhYCU)
I'm thinking the Iraq experience was worth it, but only because they were a modern nation when we rolled in. At this point, the only reason to be in Afghanistan is as a way to influence what's going on in Pakistan, where the real action is.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at October 12, 2011 04:32 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 12, 2011 04:33 PM (qvify)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at October 12, 2011 04:33 PM (QcFbt)
@216: "Conservatives outnumber the Establishment RINOs but every damn year we are to suck it up and support their candidate"
Firs' two rules of sussess, mang. We god de money, an' we god de powa. Now, what you "conservatiffs" lookin' at? You all a bunch of fuckin' assholes. You know why? You don't have the guts to be what you wanna be. You need people like us. You need people like us so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "They're da prollem. They're the bat guyss." So... what that make you? Good? You're not good.
Posted by: Antonio (Call me "Tony") Montana, GOP Bigwig at October 12, 2011 04:34 PM (xy9wk)
Seriously??? The last picture I saw of her made Meg Whitman look like Audrey Hepburn. She had that freak straight longish hair with head band thingy going that certain types of ladies of a certain age sport.
Posted by: Y-not at October 12, 2011 04:34 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs Supports Rick Perry's Hair for President at October 12, 2011 04:35 PM (ukOVL)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 12, 2011 04:37 PM (aYQHH)
Posted by: t-bird at October 12, 2011 04:37 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: VaderMan at October 12, 2011 04:37 PM (qXGZK)
Salt Lake City
IIRC it's only about 50% LDS (Mormon).
LDS women tend to be really thin, with really long waists, and always blonde.
Posted by: Y-not at October 12, 2011 04:37 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Antonio (Call me "Tony") Montana, GOP Bigwig at October 12, 2011 08:34 PM (xy9wk)
Look at the pelicans flyyyyy!
Posted by: Delta Smelt at October 12, 2011 04:38 PM (dWPyO)
Posted by: Big T Party at October 12, 2011 04:38 PM (JM2AX)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 12, 2011 04:38 PM (aYQHH)
I said the same thing to my Mum this weekend and she looked at me like I was retarded...and my Mum's 89, btw. But I stand by my comment to Mum...Hillary! has been undergoing a subtle makeover.
Posted by: billygoat at October 12, 2011 04:39 PM (R3k3C)
Posted by: USS Diversity at October 12, 2011 04:40 PM (aD5Kx)
Posted by: VaderMan at October 12, 2011 08:37 PM (qXGZK)
You've just stumbled onto my path to victory.
Posted by: Mitt at October 12, 2011 04:40 PM (KI/Ch)
Posted by: Y-not at October 12, 2011 04:40 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: t-bird at October 12, 2011 04:40 PM (FcR7P)
True dat...the girls and the mommies in Utah are mucho caliente!
Posted by: billygoat at October 12, 2011 04:41 PM (R3k3C)
Posted by: Y-not at October 12, 2011 08:40 PM (5H6zj)
Cmon, live a little. What is life without some danger?
Posted by: KG at October 12, 2011 04:41 PM (LD21B)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at October 12, 2011 04:41 PM (QcFbt)
MADDOW: [Laughs]
Bookmark this for future reference the next time you see crocodile tears cried over violent language such as “targeting” a political opponent. Patterico
Posted by: willow at October 12, 2011 04:43 PM (h+qn8)
Has anyone seen the old hash?
Posted by: Y-not at October 12, 2011 04:44 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: billygoat at October 12, 2011 08:39 PM (R3k3C)
That's kinda like rehabbin' a '58 Buick. They do that mostly in Havana I think.
Posted by: ontherocks at October 12, 2011 04:44 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Big T Party at October 12, 2011 04:44 PM (JM2AX)
Posted by: Sheriff Slow Joe at October 12, 2011 04:45 PM (R3k3C)
Romney has selected Robert Bork to be part of his legal advisory team. That kinda indicates to me that he's not exactly a lock to load the court with a bunch of Souters.
Posted by: Reggie1971///
Ummm, since when has Romney ever been consistent? Probably using Bork to determine whom NOT to select, counterintuitively.
Posted by: SFGoth at October 12, 2011 04:45 PM (dZ756)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 12, 2011 04:45 PM (aYQHH)
Posted by: lu at October 12, 2011 04:45 PM (wGFWv)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 12, 2011 04:46 PM (aYQHH)
Hmmm... video? She looks like she's wearing a dog collar.
I think she looked better with shorter hair that was styled with lots of layers. She has jowls (hey, it happens as women age!) and the longer hair makes them more prominent.
Posted by: Y-not at October 12, 2011 04:47 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at October 12, 2011 04:48 PM (6IReR)
I would probably have preferred leaving Saddam alive if I knew that would prevent Obama from becoming President.
Oh HELL yeah.
Posted by: USS Diversity at October 12, 2011 04:49 PM (aD5Kx)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 12, 2011 04:49 PM (aYQHH)
Posted by: Bob Dole at October 12, 2011 04:49 PM (PIPAS)
Posted by: Helen Oyeyemi Mr. Fox ePub at October 12, 2011 04:50 PM (X8xUj)
Posted by: Big T Party at October 12, 2011 04:51 PM (JM2AX)
She needs to have her mug shaved and sandblasted, and have her sofa pillows lifted. Then maybe we could move her cheap at a yard sale.
Posted by: ontherocks at October 12, 2011 04:51 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 12, 2011 04:52 PM (aYQHH)
Just saying, they are strange, but universally nice people.
They don't drink, this is a serious downside for the morons.
Posted by: Bubba at October 12, 2011 08:50 PM (hXJOG)
Mitt's problems do not stem from his Mormon faith.
And why do you go fishing with 2 mormons? Because if you bring only one he'll drink all your beer!
Posted by: buzzion at October 12, 2011 04:52 PM (GULKT)
Can I interject here and say that just because Mormons are "nice" and some jackass minister called them cultists is not a reason to vote for Mitt? Seriously, people. If the crucifixion Palin endured in 2008 wasn't reason to vote for her, Mitt hearing for the umpteenth time that millions of Christians don't like his Church isn't a reason to vote for him.
Posted by: Y-not at October 12, 2011 04:52 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Marybel at October 12, 2011 04:53 PM (Hic+o)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 12, 2011 04:54 PM (aYQHH)
@331: "Bush ran as a mushy Compassionate Conservative and appointed two rock solid Supremes."
Eventually.....
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at October 12, 2011 04:54 PM (xy9wk)
Posted by: steevy at October 12, 2011 04:54 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at October 12, 2011 04:55 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at October 12, 2011 04:55 PM (ftnLM)
Posted by: Marybel at October 12, 2011 04:55 PM (Hic+o)
Posted by: pawn at October 12, 2011 04:56 PM (iMsF6)
Posted by: Bob at October 12, 2011 04:57 PM (ftnLM)
Posted by: Jeff at October 12, 2011 04:57 PM (4KfqM)
Who effing cares what they do? Like all of us, they just want to be left the hell alone.
Posted by: lu at October 12, 2011 04:57 PM (wGFWv)
Posted by: t-bird at October 12, 2011 04:58 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 12, 2011 04:58 PM (aYQHH)
Those who claim they won't vote for Romney no matter what remind me of the purist jackasses who foisted Sharron Angle and the biggest idiot in Republican political history, Christine O'Donnell, onto us. The results? Harry Reid and Chris Coons in the Senate.
Posted by: Bob at October 12, 2011 04:58 PM (ftnLM)
Posted by: F#cking Idiot at October 12, 2011 04:58 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at October 12, 2011 04:59 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at October 12, 2011 04:59 PM (QcFbt)
Posted by: Big T Party at October 12, 2011 04:59 PM (JM2AX)
Gingrich is a really, really smart guy, a true a-hole, and a political pragmatist. He glommed onto global warming when he thought that it was a winning issue with the public and if I am not mistaken he was a guy who thought that Medicare part D was a great idea because it would take one of the Democrats' weapons away. He is definitely conservative but it seems like he either tries to be too clever by half or he is too willing to forward bad ideas in order to win elections. Besides, I have a hard time trusting a guy who ditched his wife in the way that he did.
I like Cain but I am still a tad gunshy from last year, particularly Nevada and Colorado. His reaction to Perry's rock non-story was either knee-jerk or cravenly political; either way, I didn't like it.
Perry is disappointing me.
Ron Paul's foreign policy is anachronistic.
Bachmann, tard. Santorum, yeah right. Huntsman can go f himself.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 12, 2011 04:59 PM (UHF3q)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 12, 2011 04:59 PM (aYQHH)
Posted by: USS Diversity at October 12, 2011 05:00 PM (aD5Kx)
if romney wins the nom. obama will pour a boatload of cash into TX. given the general dislike that people of TX have for someone like mitt and the weapon mitt will hand him with hispanics on illegal imm. TX will be in play. and if bho wins TX game over. no matter how many nh or iowa he wins . at the very least mitt will have to defend TX and the rest of the south like no one else. coming in closer than others in blue states will not help
Posted by: rik at October 12, 2011 05:01 PM (ih+6i)
Posted by: Bob at October 12, 2011 08:57 PM (ftnLM)
Second that
Third that...and infinity.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 12, 2011 05:01 PM (c0A3e)
I'm sorry, but anyone here claiming they may not vote for Romney in a matchup between Obama and Romney is just a fucking idiot.
Or AOS resident 17 year old. One or the other.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at October 12, 2011 05:02 PM (dWPyO)
Posted by: t-bird at October 12, 2011 05:03 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 12, 2011 05:03 PM (aYQHH)
Posted by: Big T Party at October 12, 2011 05:03 PM (JM2AX)
Posted by: Bob at October 12, 2011 05:04 PM (ftnLM)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 12, 2011 05:04 PM (aYQHH)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at October 12, 2011 05:05 PM (QcFbt)
I will cast a vote for Mitt, one time, and one time only. Exactly as I did for McCain. The thing is I don't think my vote for Romney would be even as "enthusiastic" as it was for McCain which wasn't much. But at least McCain attempted to get the base behind him by choosing a more conservative VP than he was. I don't see Romney doing anything to attempt to appeal to the base.
I just can't wait til the debate between Romney and Obama where Romney really goes for the jugular by calling Obama "well meaning"
Posted by: buzzion at October 12, 2011 05:05 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 12, 2011 05:06 PM (aYQHH)
Mitt's problems do not stem from his Mormon faith.
And why do you go fishing with 2 mormons? Because if you bring only one he'll drink all your beer!
Posted by: buzzion at October 12, 2011 08:52 PM (GULKT)
I was wondering when that joke would surface. That's an oldie but goodie and even the Mormons laugh at it.
Posted by: Apostate and Infidel in Utah at October 12, 2011 05:06 PM (90BnA)
They won't. Complete and utter bullshit and bluster. Or mental illness and/or a death wish.
Posted by: lu at October 12, 2011 05:07 PM (wGFWv)
Posted by: t-bird at October 12, 2011 05:07 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: TheGarbone at October 12, 2011 05:07 PM (O3f8/)
Posted by: mugiwara at October 12, 2011 05:08 PM (KI/Ch)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 12, 2011 05:08 PM (aYQHH)
I just can't wait til the debate between Romney and Obama where Romney really goes for the jugular by calling Obama "well meaning"
Teddy Roosevelt once said of William Howard Taft, "He means well, feebly".
It wasn't a compliment. I don't think Romney was being complimentary either. He was patronizing Obama.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at October 12, 2011 05:08 PM (0DGtF)
Posted by: Concealed Kerry or Submit at October 12, 2011 09:08 PM (tHnoW)
But what are the other 3 drinking?
Posted by: buzzion at October 12, 2011 05:09 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Y-not at October 12, 2011 05:09 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Y-not at October 12, 2011 09:09 PM (5H6zj)
Its not going to be the election of choosing the lesser of two evils. It will be the election of which candidate depresses their voters less.
Posted by: buzzion at October 12, 2011 05:10 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 12, 2011 05:10 PM (aYQHH)
Posted by: GMB at October 12, 2011 05:11 PM (wY55N)
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at October 12, 2011 05:12 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 12, 2011 05:12 PM (aYQHH)
I live in Houston and there is a Mormon temple 2 minutes away from my house. Outside of a few protestors now-and-then, nobody dislikes them for being Mormons. You will not find even a medium-sized group of Evangelical Texans willing to vote Obama because Romney is a Mormon.
Posted by: Miss'80s at October 12, 2011 05:13 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: t-bird at October 12, 2011 09:07 PM (FcR7P)
Although, I will say this about Newt....he is the only candidate that hasn't attacked another candidate and every chance he gets, he slams Obama.
Oh and he makes the MSM moderators wet their pants.
Posted by: Tami-Cardinals! at October 12, 2011 05:13 PM (X6akg)
I'll try to remember to send them to my home pc so I can link them.
(I don't have much info on Issue 3)
Posted by: lu at October 12, 2011 05:13 PM (wGFWv)
Posted by: mugiwara at October 12, 2011 08:27 PM (KI/Ch)
As a Perry supporter, I say yes... I have a feeling both Cain and Perry will lose momentum over the fall, and the not-Romney vote will move to Newt... Let's not forget McCain was dead and buried in Oct 2007... And Newt is a hell of a lot better candidate than McCain or Mitt...
Posted by: phreshone at October 12, 2011 05:14 PM (T3vCe)
Maybe I missed it, but I don't think that argument was based on Mitt's religion.
There are people who simply find him too liberal.
Posted by: Y-not at October 12, 2011 05:14 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 12, 2011 09:10 PM (aYQHH)
Maybe I should reconsider...
Posted by: Sarah Palin at October 12, 2011 05:14 PM (KI/Ch)
Posted by: GMB at October 12, 2011 05:14 PM (wY55N)
I was never clear exactly what the term meant, but all the Mormons I've drank with called themselves Jack Mormons.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at October 12, 2011 08:59 PM (QcFbt)
That is what a Jack Mormon is. They smoke and/or drink and don't go to church very often if at all.
Posted by: Apostate and Infidel in Utah at October 12, 2011 05:14 PM (90BnA)
My gut tells me that we are not going to win back the Senate if Mitt's the nominee. It'll suppress conservative voter turnout.
If conservatives can't get motivated enough to kick the socialist out of the WH, perhaps they are unmotivatable.
I'm not a big Mitt guy, but the McShame comparisons are off a bit. He's not as bad, and the environment in 12 will be much different than in Hope n Change 08.
My prediction is that turnout will be great if Mitt is the Nom, particularly if a Rubio or other Tea Party fav is on the ticket with him.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at October 12, 2011 05:14 PM (dWPyO)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 12, 2011 05:14 PM (aYQHH)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at October 12, 2011 05:14 PM (i9cTu)
Posted by: NBC Human Mike at October 12, 2011 05:15 PM (FcR7P)
Rick Perry's post Dartmouth remarks. 2 parts
He's great with voters and these debates with 8 people vying for media attention are bullshit.
He also focused on energy. This morning the capital of PA declared bankruptcy. Pennsylvanians just might go for the energy governor.
Posted by: workingclass artist at October 12, 2011 05:15 PM (tBMfq)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 12, 2011 05:16 PM (aYQHH)
Posted by: buzzion at October 12, 2011 05:16 PM (GULKT)
Don't vote for Romney. You can't trust him. He's a shady Mormon. Vote for me instead. Everyone can agree they love me.
*hops on dirtbike, drives off to ATM to withdraw some of daddy's fortune*
Posted by: The Salt Lake Orangeman at October 12, 2011 05:18 PM (6RIj4)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at October 12, 2011 05:19 PM (QcFbt)
Actually, he's not. He's kind of a clown. One thing about scoamf, he doesn't Tom around.
Posted by: jeanne! with two N's and an E at October 12, 2011 06:05 PM (wChRP)
He's not the devil incarnate, just a guy who maybe doesn't realize that this isn't a sport for those of us out here in average America. For us, it's our lives and our children's lives.
If he ends up the nominee I am going to work as hard as I can for him, because Obama is set on wrecking this country. Don't want another 4 years of Holder, Chu, Jarrett, Michelle, and SPEECHES ALL THE DAMN TIME.
However, I actually think we should take a serious look at Perry. Debates are only about 10% of the general election, and Perry has some other stuff going for him:
1. He looks good (a plus in the TV era)
2. He is an excellent retail campaigner
3. He makes excellent ads
4. He absolutely despises Obama. This is needed. I don't want to hear that he means well, as Romney says. I want to hear he's a job killer, which is what Perry says.
5. Perry is a man who does things. He's not a talker. We have had enough talk to last us through 3 presidencies.
Posted by: Miss Marple at October 12, 2011 06:05 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Into the Silence epub at October 12, 2011 06:06 PM (DBLIh)
Posted by: Trialdog at October 12, 2011 06:07 PM (+YYxi)
Posted by: Al From Bay Shore at October 12, 2011 06:13 PM (H7qBA)
There are people who simply find him too liberal.
I took "given the general dislike that people of TX have for someone like mitt" to be a reference to how the Bible Belt supposedly feels about Mormons, but I'm no longer sure that was the intention.
Posted by: Miss'80s at October 12, 2011 06:14 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: Obama..... at October 12, 2011 06:23 PM (O3f8/)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at October 12, 2011 06:26 PM (ayKZ9)
miss 80s
you could probably put all the people who would not vote for mitt based on LDS in a cooler. you sound like a knee jerk dem. and just so you know i was born in dallas and raised in river oaks and have lived the last 20 yrs in western MA so i might know a little more than you
Posted by: rik at October 12, 2011 06:28 PM (ih+6i)
Posted by: My Song AudioBook at October 12, 2011 06:38 PM (XZ+yh)
Posted by: Rise of The Governor ePub at October 12, 2011 06:54 PM (UY7HL)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at October 12, 2011 07:20 PM (Z7ypG)
Posted by: Max Hitpoints at October 12, 2011 07:38 PM (cOjqC)
Am I also the only one who would not run around screaming if Romney is the nominee? I will vote for him far more enthusiastically then i cast my vote for McCain (not like that's saying much) and think on the economy the guy will be outstanding. And as an out of work attorney, that would be very very nice. Yes he's liberal on alot of things but if he gets the economy humming again, stops surrendering American interests to our enemies and repeals Obamacare, for a first term I'll take it.
Posted by: Defector at October 12, 2011 07:56 PM (BxxIm)
Posted by: Log Cabin at October 12, 2011 08:04 PM (1e6Xt)
Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at October 12, 2011 08:20 PM (5Wl/f)
127 Are Newt's negatives really that insurmountable???
Posted by: Melon
I'm through with you wingnuts forcing your right wing social engineering on the American people. Be gone!
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Yes, but Newt can't even get his numbers to move in the republican primary. How could he do it in the general?
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For social conservatives, if we have the House, the Senate and the Presidency, I don't think anything is going to happen that should make them nervous, and things will probably improve for them. No more interference, no going after nativity scenes, etc. I don't think they have anything to fear from Newt.
His numbers DO seem to be going up. I really wanted Palin to enter the race so I wasn't paying that much attention to the others. You can not help but appreciate the way he handles himself in the debates. It reminded me how smart he is and that that is what we need right now. I think Gingrich/Bolton would be awesome.
Posted by: Just someone throwing crap at the wall at October 12, 2011 08:31 PM (3AnLn)
Reminds me of what happened in California last year. There, in the biggest national wave election in many decades, conservative turnout was a problem in CA on Election Day -- in an election in which they faced the return of Jerry Brown and the best chance yet to get rid of Barbara Boxer.
The I'm-staying-home crowd will be the first and the loudest to complain when they see what Obama pulls in a second term. And no matter what they say, they really don't comprehend how a second term of Jugears will finish off the country, or they wouldn't be entertaining these brain-damaged notions of staying home.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at October 12, 2011 08:40 PM (lE42c)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 12, 2011 08:50 PM (vahvH)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 12, 2011 09:12 PM (vahvH)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 12, 2011 10:07 PM (vahvH)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 12, 2011 10:22 PM (vahvH)
Posted by: IRSMedic at October 13, 2011 03:00 AM (BOruV)
it scares me that cain didn`t think his 999 plan through....how can you implement a plan that guts middle class retirees like this one will?....
retirees will be devastated by his plan....think retirees living off their savings....the national sales tax will create a huge,new tax burden for them...
their savings have already been taxed when originally earned under the income tax...and the dividends they`ve earned have been taxed already...now the sales tax would tax the same earnings again when they buy stuff?....on top of all the state,local sales and other peripheral taxes...
most of these folks aren`t rich....how can you put a plan out there without thinking it through?....does he think the libs aren`t going tp pounce on this slap-dash crap?......
throw this on top of gaffs like "greenspan i think they`re salvating at the thought of a cain nomination....he`ll get skewered in a debate with obama(particularly with the msm carrying his water.....
the main onjective is to remove obama....and i think newt or romney give us the best shot at doing that....and with a controlled congress,romney should be held in check....
i can`t believe how newt is being ignored and how the radio guys are savaging romney...rush has completely jumped the shark...the guy is dead to me...he`s running his own operation chaos on the republican party...
Posted by: russ hines at October 13, 2011 09:17 AM (GkHqV)
btw...rush is beginning to sound like charles johnson....he doesn`t get his way,so he tries to pull the whole damned thing down to spite some perceived slight....maybe business is better for him with a dem in office?...
the guy`s gone batshit crazy....he needs to be bitchslapped back into reality...
it`s scaring me...
Posted by: russ hines at October 13, 2011 09:28 AM (GkHqV)
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Posted by: Proud Mormon Emperor of Icecream at October 12, 2011 02:50 PM (epBek)