1 Newt Gingrich Spanks Romney on Twitter

Kink-y...!

2
For a guy who's been running for president since 2004, Romney is the worst candidate ever.

3
You'd think he'd learn and perfect his candidacy over the past 7 years...

4 "Newt spanks" Words I would have bet my life savings I would have never read

5 Mitt's the only guy who can be his own animatronic in the Hall of Presidents.

6
I waver between thinking Romney's aggression and shamelessness are actually useful tools in the toolbox...

If Romney could just focus these skills in the right direction; learn to control his powers...

7 I waver between thinking Romney's aggression and shamelessness are actually useful tools in the toolbox -- could use some of that against Obama -- and thinking they're liabilities.

I think they're liabilities.  He's not very likable (or warm).  He needs us - all of us conservatives - fighting on his behalf in the general when the Obama-MSM smear machine gets rolling, but I am disinclined to do so because he obviously doesn't give a shit if I vote for him. 

And I don't believe he is that much of a fighter when it comes to liberals.  I think he thinks he'll make nice with the media and that will somehow save him.  It won't. 

8 Romney tools to cry. News at 11

9 . But there's a real shamelessness here that gets off-putting.

Been sayin' that for weeks. Romney's refusal to reach out to the conservative base on the theory that they/we will fall in line once he is nominated smacks of arrogance. And if there is anything the base despises more than Obamunism, it's arrogance from the Republican Establishment.

10

New thread smell.

 

BTW Ace, palin steele is whining on the other thread that you're a hard hard man.

11 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

12 Regardless, of who ends up as the nominee, someone needs to make a list of prominent Romney-enablers -- Coulter, Christie, etc. -- so that conservatives can continually remind each other that it was their stupidity that prevented the GOP from having a real primary.

13 These attributes might just get him elected, but then Romney will be president of the United States. Then what? Do we want a president whose policies are all focus-group tested? There's so much that needs fixing. I'm coming into the camp that says we elect Romney because he's most electable but also concentrate on electing a Congress that will keep Mitt from doing The Thing That Makes Him Liked by the Punditry(TM).

14 Bugger. Prussian sock fail.

15 People screaming bloody murder about Perry and Gingrich's views on illegals and demanding support for Romney hardest hit.

16 Newsies have there video libraries and they will whip them out on any Republican and say you said this then you say this now. Doesn't apply to Dems. Nuance.

17 New spanks
Cain yanks
Bachmann shanks
and Perry tranks

18 People screaming bloody murder about Perry and Gingrich's views on illegals and demanding support for Romney hardest hit. Posted by: buzzion

Yeah, that is wierd I'd think they would avoid the subject.

19 10

New thread smell.

BTW Ace, palin steele is whining on the other thread that you're a hard hard man.

Posted by: toby928© has plans and schemes at November 23, 2011 12:20 PM (IfkGz)

But he's not hard on me in the right way.  Ace why won't you return my calls.  All my girlfriends say I'm good at fellating

20 What is Rick Santorum's immigration position?

21 I'm shocked, shocked to find hypocrisy among politicians.

22 We need to get all the morons in a bar, get them drunk, have a huge bar brawl, and then kiss and make up and wake up together in a gutter. Then we'll be ready for the general.

23 So what did Newt say? Is there some Fair Use restriction on a 140-character quote?

24 /Romney hate mode off
Man, I love this convection roast setting.  My turkey started browning 15 minutes into cooking.  ET"T" (estimated time to turkey): 90 minutes!
/Romney hate mode on

25 We need to get all the morons in a bar, get them drunk, have a huge bar brawl, and then kiss and make up and wake up together in a gutter. Then we'll be ready for the general.

Posted by: joncelli at November 23, 2011 12:24 PM (RD7QR)

26 When do we get to the rapin' part?

27 I like this "counter-punch" from Newt, but I have to point out as I did in a previous thread:  Any "path to legality" is, in fact, a path to citizenship.  Once you are here legally, there is nothing to prevent you from seeking citizenship.  Indeed, the first step in every "path to citizenship" plan I've seen is some way (whether it's "going to the back of the line" or "amnesty" or something in between) to make on legal.  This is because one of the requirements for citizenship is that you first be a (legal) resident alien.

To claim that you "only" support a "path to legality" is sophistry of the highest order.

28
Ann Coulter has been assimilated.

Who's next.

You're next.

29 Believing that Romney will shut down the border is like the Liberals believing - Obama would shutdown Gitmo.

30 @23
EoJ,
He said:
Here's a trip down memory lane: http://bitly.com/sdk8RE So what's your position on citizenship for illegals again? (I oppose it.)

31 Posted by: willow at November 23, 2011 12:25 PM (h+qn No, waking up on the street with a filthy, hung-over moron is part of the bonding experience.

32 Pro-tip for Willard: When you're a shape-shifter, it's better to transmute when nobody is looking.

33 Nice. An intelligent criticism of Romney.

34 The parallels between how- Romney will say anything and how Obama will say anything are unreal. ***********

35 23 So what did Newt say? Is there some Fair Use restriction on a 140-character quote?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 23, 2011 12:24 PM (0yt4x)

He links the video Drew posted in the previous thread and is asking Romney about his stance on illegals getting citzenship (which Newt opposes)

The video is a 14 second clip of Romney on Meet the Press talking about how we need to be able to allow the illegals that are here to sign up for permanent residency or citizenship.

36 jonicelli! old stale beer breath is the worst of bonding experiences.
alright but i'll bring the toothbrushes and scope.
shudder

37 asking Romney about his stance on illegals getting citzenship (which Newt opposes)

No he doesn't.

38 Hey Ace, last time I was on this blog you were crowing that Rush dissed Michelle Bachmann. Then you piled on by saying she was a horrible person because she was a tax attorney. Then all your delightful commenters chimed in. good times. Thought you might want to know Rush just spent five minutes singing Bachmann's praises and calling her performance last night "superb", and that she should be taken seriously. Made me think of you.

39 I've been thinking that he's jealous of the attention the other candidates have gotten.  Yeah, a lot of it negative, but still attention.  Attention to them, by it's very nature, relegates Mitt to the background.  Maybe he's so squeaky clean he can't hope for an accuser to come out of the woodwork, so that won't work.  Besides with 16 grand kids he wouldn't want that anyway.  He's just so "white bread" so just plain "the other guy who is always running for President" that he can't seem to get past his normal base and get any attention. 

He's just there with everyone wishing he wasn't cause he's not the best candidate but just might be the best survivor, the best game player.   Maybe Mitt's error is that he isn't capitalizing on his old fashioned American steadiness.  Something millions of American fathers can relate to.  Let's face it, it's not glamorous to be an American Father.  There are way many more negatives and positives yet many men live that life and look back and thank God they have what they have and lived the way they lived.

There is a commercial out there where people are saying they aren't going to vote for a party this time, they are going to vote for a person.  It's very effective as a lot of people are feeling the same way.  They are looking for a leader with a heart and soul they can see and feel.  They are craving someone who will do what they say they are going to do, which the BO fans claim has been accomplished by BO, but, BO hasn't made any more plans since the campaign.  Sure he followed through on most of his stuff, despite the complaining from us, the American people, protesting loudly with cards, letter, emails, tea party gathering, that we didn't want it, he insisted on giving it to us anyway.  They want a listener and someone who can react to the mood of the country.  Maybe Mitt is that person, but he has to show us that he is that person. 

40 So no word from ace on who won the debate?

41 kathleen, I can't support Bachmann because I hate women, duh.

42 Vic, I didn't watch the debate. I had a commitment.

43 Mitt's the only guy who can be his own animatronic in the Hall of Presidents. I just got back from Disney World. The animatronic Obama was very unrealistic. By which I mean, unrealistically lifelike and human, much more so than the actual Obama. I would actually rather have a drink with the fucking Obama mannequin than the human Obama.

44

No he doesn't.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 23, 2011 12:30 PM (8y9MW)

Well he wanted to know what Newt said, and that's what Newt said.

45 @39 I've been thinking that he's jealous of the attention the other candidates have gotten.  Yeah, a lot of it negative, but still attention.  Attention to them, by it's very nature, relegates Mitt to the background.

Nah, that's his entire primary strategy.  Never sticks his neck out.  Rarely says anything notable.  Avoids the base. 

His campaign strategy is "inevitability."  Then in the general he can run even further left. 

46 I know, Ace, honey.

47 Oh c'mon -it's the day before Thanksgiving. Let's laugh a little.

See my link at 156 from the thread below. Worth a giggle.

Happy Thanksgiving, Assholes!

48 Well one thing we know for sure, both of the front runners, Mitt and Newt have funny names and want to give the illegals a new home here in the USA.

49 Plus, kathleen, Michele Bachmann is all "I don't want INNOCENT GIRLS getting raped by needles," and I'm in favor of innocent girls getting needle-raped by liquid whore, so.

50 Plus she's a cuckoopants.

51 Americans don't like politicians. Conservatives dislike them even more than the Dems do. Dems are a little more tolerant of the lies, distortions, and scumbaggery that comes with almost all of them.
 
It's no accident that the occupation 'politician' comes in under lawyers and used car salesmen in survey after survey.
 
So if you think that I am being hard on your particular candidate, you are right. What you are missing is I dislike mine too. Just not as much.

52 ofgs

53 @50
Wouldn't that be cuckoopant? 

54 During the primary debates in 2008, Romney had moved to the right on immigration.  He was calling for illegals to go home explicitly against our eventual nominee McCain. 

So, take your pick.  A guy that is for amnesty now (Newt), or one that supported it in the past but has since changed his mind.   At least give Romney credit for knowing where the base is on this issue.

55

she should be taken seriously

Not really, not for President anyway. She's a US Representative only.  I think even Senators need not apply for the job.  Governors and war-winning generals are okay. 

 

But, I would seriously hit that.

56 Well ya Blue Bonnet, Obama and Mitt Romney also have- Harvard in common... It's funny how lying gets mistaken for complicated-or "smart". Nuance....

57 Well he wanted to know what Newt said, and that's what Newt said.

True.  Newt says he doesn't support a path to citizenship.  I'll grant that much.

58 I would support Bachman if she made me a sammich.

59 Posted by: blue bonnet at November 23, 2011 12:31 PM (oZfic)

The babbling psycho speaks!

How about that Dem Wave of 2010, huh, curious?

60 56 Well ya Blue Bonnet, Obama and Mitt Romney also have-

But I bet Mitt's poetry is better with that BA in English from BYU and all. 

61 I love Bill Clinton and consider him a great President, but yet if Newt Gingrich is the nominee I will slam him for divorces and cheating on his wife. I despise flip flopper Romney, but yet silently approve of Obama flip flopping on public financing for his campaign, an insurance mandate, the war in Iraq, and halving the deficit by the end of his first term.

62

. So Mitt's calculation may be "You all know I've flipped and flopped and am really not terribly conservative, but you don't know that each of your new Flavors of the Week have done similar things, so my mission is to bring each candidate's Romneyesque deviations from conservative orthodoxy to your attention. Then you'll see each is nearly as flawed on ideology as I am, and you'll pick me not on ideology, but on general competency, because if everyone's kind of a RINO in one or more important ways, you might as well pick the guy who's polling the best."

Hey, that's a completely cromulent strategy.  I'm not sure that's what he's doing, but I wouldn't knock that from a strategic pov.

Believing that Romney will shut down the border

Is there a legitimate belief that any of them will shut down the border?  I do believe some will try harder than others but as far as believing that will actually happen?  Not so much.  That's not necessarily a slam on the candidates so much as a belief that the other side will do everything humanly possible to prevent that.

63

But, I would seriously hit that.

Posted by: toby928© has plans and schemes at November 23, 2011 12:34 PM

I thought we all agreed the babe of the day was Katie Pavlich???

64 True.  Newt says he doesn't support a path to citizenship.  I'll grant that much.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 23, 2011 12:35 PM (8y9MW)

Well at least until someone rummages through tapes of his previous statements.

65 Leave Mitt alllloooonnnnnnnne !!!!!

66 Is there a legitimate belief that any of them will shut down the border?  I do believe some will try harder than others but as far as believing that will actually happen?  Not so much.  That's not necessarily a slam on the candidates so much as a belief that the other side will do everything humanly possible to prevent that.

Posted by: alexthechick at November 23, 2011 12:36 PM (VtjlW)

+1

67 I'd support Bachmann if she would STFU. I could totally get on board with that.

68 Ace, I commend you. That was one of your best pieces. Good show.

69 Michelle Bachmann is a "hiding in the bushes" nutcase. She made that plain and clear when she insisted she met a woman whose daughter went tard after Gardisil, then refusing to even question it. If I went around saying "this person who I don't even know said his dog transforms into an alien every time he eats Skippy Peanut Butter" and then even trying to use that as a reason for fighting against Skippy, you would call me crazy. She gets a pass?

70 I thought we all agreed the babe of the day

There's a babe of the day?  Why doesn't she get her own post?  In fairness to the 'ettes, I'd also be okay with a "dude of the day" post- I just wouldn't hang out there.

71
If Michelle Bachmann is George Washington-ish, as Glenn says, then I'd do sex to George Washington.

72 More foreign policy wins for Obama. Russia threatens missile attack and female reporter flips him a bird. (See Drudge)

73 So what's the consensus amongst the Cain supporters here on his candidacy?  Is the bloom off the rose for you folks or are you still backing him? 

It almost seems like the sexual harassment allegations helped him with his core supporters, but that now that things have died down and we're back to issues, his support may be fading. 

74

"So you think you're gonna cross me And mess with my shit?

Openin' your fuckin' trap And flappin' your lip?

Don't fuck with me, newt Cause you're gonna get dropped

I'll snap off your neck With a crackle and pop! "

75 I think Bachman did pretty darn well , however, she needs more experience and She look to be working with that goal in mind, we'll see what the future brings.

76

Well, they are both terrible on this issue. And that's a serious problem. Any Republican soft on immigration should be disqualified for the simple reason that more immigration will eventually destroy the Republican Party. It's just math.

If you think Obama is socialist, just wait until we have a one party Democratic state 30 years from now, sustained by immigrants and their children.

77 looks*

78 OMG! Ace is in the pocket of Big Liquid Whore!

79 "and I'm in favor of innocent girls getting needle-raped by liquid whore, so." Desperate times call for desperate measures.

80

70 Michelle Bachmann is a "hiding in the bushes" nutcase.
She made that plain and clear when she insisted she met a woman whose daughter went tard after Gardisil, then refusing to even question it.

It was curious's mother she met.  Would you question it?

81 Wow that's a really good point and I like your explanation. I can't wait to see what else you have to say.

82

There's a babe of the day?  Why doesn't she get her own post?  In fairness to the 'ettes, I'd also be okay with a "dude of the day" post- I just wouldn't hang out there.

In fairness to me, I think there should be both.  Bow before my special snowflakeness bitches!

83 Hey, once you get past the Gardasil-induced drool, semi-retarded girls really put out, am-I-right, fellas?

84 Yeah, we're boned.

85 mouse and cheese.

86 Well at least until someone rummages through tapes of his previous statements.

I don't even have to do that, I've already pointed out that his currently stated position "path to legality" will inevitably lead to a "path to citizenship."  They are, logically speaking, the same thing.

And, giving him the benefit of the doubt (that he really does want a path to legality but not a path to citizenship) makes him delusional.  I want to eat all the chocolate cake I can get my hands on, but I don't want to get fat.  If I do the first, the second follows- whatever my desires.

87 I know that the Oil Producers Assn of Syria support me.

88 Willard 2012!

89 Posted by: Y-not at November 23, 2011 12:39 PM (5H6zj) Cain who? NEWT IS THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE!

90

Willard 2012!

I, for one, welcome our new rat overlords. 

91 We must stop importing nutmeg from Alaska!

92 In fairness to me, I think there should be both. Bow before my special snowflakeness bitches! Posted by: alexthechick at November 23, 2011 12:40 PM (VtjlW) Ahh.. just make up yer damn mind already!

93 Posted by: alexthechick at November 23, 2011 12:42 PM (VtjlW) I love cheese. I do not think they are going to let me keep the cheese...

94 And, giving him the benefit of the doubt (that he really does want a path to legality but not a path to citizenship) makes him delusional.  I want to eat all the chocolate cake I can get my hands on, but I don't want to get fat.  If I do the first, the second follows- whatever my desires.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 23, 2011 12:40 PM (8y9MW)

Yeah but if I had to bet it would be that there is a tape out there with Newt wanting to make illegals citizens. He has been all over the board on every issue.

If you stop and think about it that is why we didn't like him in the first place.

95 Instead we must increase our imports of passion fruit from the Kalahari!

96 Hey Ace - You couldn't quote the twitter comment you're referring to?  I get a blank twitter page when I go there.

97 Fear alex , she will take our males /or females with her mighty boots, and her great posts! we cannot compete.

98

We must stop importing nutmeg from Alaska!

 

Those nutmeggers secretly run this place, Herm.

99 NEWT IS THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE! Posted by: (insert flavor of the week here)-istas Local 560 at November 23, 2011 12:41 PM (JEVge) WAVE OF THE FUTURE!

100 WAVE OF THE FUTURE!

101

NEWT IS THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE!

Rick Perry is the Undertoad.

102 If Newt can curb his dumb impulses (like Nancy Pelosi couch time and Paul Ryan's social engineering) he will beat Obama. I'm actually feeling a wee bit optimistic.

#RomneyFail - When you're trying to spank your opponent and end up with "stuff" on your face.

103 I thought we all agreed the babe of the day was Katie Pavlich??? Yes. I would hit that so hard it would split the vagina atom, creating a new element, Bonerium.

104 yikes

105

Liberals like politicians because underneath all the lies liberal politicians tell to their base, the base knows there is money in it for them.  Bigger government, more programs, expansion of existing programs, more more more.  When does a liberal ever run on a platform of less government and less spending?  Liberals don't care if illegals come here and get in line for the free money, just as long as the free money spigot keeps flowing.

Conservatives want less government, less spending, and just want to be left alone to live their lives and spend their own money as they see fit.  Which is why it's easy to run as a liberal and get votes, you're bribing people with their own (borrowed) money to vote for the liberal politician who makes all the sexy promises and winks at you while the conservative is lecturing about personal responsibility.

106 I thought this was a family blog...... Well, when in Rome. Who wants me to stuff their face into my crotch? I'll give you a ride when I'm done.

107 O/T:  Two new victims, both still minors, have come forward on Sandusky.  That should make it harder for his lawyer to use the "smear the victims" approach that he announced he was planning on using.

Interesting article that explains the time-line of the investigation and how slow it was to get rolling (and the possible consequences of that fact). 

They only searched Sandusky's house this summer, for example. 

108 I regularly split Adams in the showers at Penn State.

109 The quote is at comment #30. 

110 If Newt can curb his dumb impulses (like Nancy Pelosi couch time and Paul Ryan's social engineering) he will beat Obama. I'm actually feeling a wee bit optimistic.

Posted by: Theo Kojak
...............
Like his "let's fire school janitors and let the kids do it" idea?

Curb those impulses?  He's just getting started!

111 Yes. I would hit that so hard it would split the vagina atom, creating a new element, Bonerium. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 23, 2011 12:44 PM (PLHIl) Is the vagina atom a faster-than-light particle?

112 OT Family starts arriving in a few hours. It's gonna' be a long 48 hours.

113 23 So what did Newt say? Is there some Fair Use restriction on a 140-character quote?
___________

Vowels are fair game, but you need a licensing agreement for consonants and other characters.

114 Thanks, Y-not!

115 Here's what I don't understand: a perfectly reasonable and qualified candidate like Rick Santorum gets shit on because he comes off a little weird and endorsed some guy we don't like years ago, while complete dumbasses like Perry and Cain are defended pretty much no matter what shit they say or do. Gingrich, for his part, could not win a general election if his life depended on it (see his approval ratings as Speaker 1995-199 .

116 Yes. I would hit that so hard it would split the vagina atom, creating a new element, Bonerium. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 23, 2011 12:44 PM (PLHIl) I am more and more convinced you are actually Dennis Reynolds. Let me ask you this- if a girl goes on a boat with you, do you agree/disagree that there is an "implication"?

117

Is the vagina atom a faster-than-light particle?

 

Her nebula was crawling with crabs.

118 Is the vagina atom a faster-than-light particle?

Posted by: joncelli at November 23, 2011 12:48 PM (RD7QR)

Analanium is the shit.

119

The video in context. For the life of me I can't figure out what he's trying to say. Reading this I get the picture of a squid squeezing under a rock & taking whatever shape necessary to avoid a predator.

GOV. ROMNEY: Now let's, now let's look at those very carefully, OK, and you're, you're a careful reader. In the interview with The Boston Globe, I described all three programs that were out there, described what they were, acknowledged that they were not technically an amnesty program, but I indicated in that same interview that I had not formulated my own proposal and that I was endorsing none of those three programs. I did not support any of them. I called them reasonable. They are reasonable efforts to, to look at the problem. But I said I did not support--and I said specifically in that interview I have not formulated my own policy and have not determined which I would support. And, of course, the Cornyn proposal required all of the immigrants to go home. The McCain proposal required most of them to go home, but let some stay. And the Bush proposal I, frankly, don't recall in that much detail. But they had very different proposals. My own view is consistent with what you saw in the Lowell Sun, that those people who had come here illegally and are in this country--the 12 million or so that are here illegally--should be able to stay sign up for permanent residency or citizenship, but they should not be given a special pathway, a special guarantee that all of them get to say here for the rest of their lives merely by virtue of having come here illegally. And that, I think, is the great flaw in the final bill that came forward from the Senate.

MR. RUSSERT: But they shouldn't have to go home?

GOV. ROMNEY: Well, whether they go home--they should go home eventually. There's a set per--in my view they should be--they should have a set period during which period they, they sign up for application for permanent residency or, or for citizenship. But there's a set period where upon they should return home. And if they've been approved for citizenship or for a permanent residency, well, thy would be a different matter. But for the great majority, they'll be going home.

MR. RUSSERT: The children they had born here are U.S. citizens, so do the children stay here and the parents go home?

GOV. ROMNEY: Well, that's a choice, of course, the parents would, would make. But my view is that those 12 million who've come here illegally should be given the opportunity to sign up to stay here, but they should not be given any advantage in becoming a permanent resident or citizen by virtue of simply coming here illegally. And likewise, if they've brought a child to this country or they've had a child in this country, that's, that's wonderful that they're growing their families, but that doesn't mean that they all get to stay here indefinitely. We're fundamentally a nation of laws. And let me underscore something here that I think's awfully important, because this immigration debate can sound anti-immigrant to a lot of people. It's not intended to be that by myself or, I believe, by the vast majority of others that talk about it. We value legal immigration. We welcome people coming here with different cultures and skill and education, but we are a nation of laws. And our freedoms and our liberty are associated with following the law. We have to secure our border, we have to make sure there's an employment verification system to identify who's here legally and who's not. And then for the 12 million who've come here, welcome them to get in line with everybody else, but no special pathway.

Here's the full interview

Should they stay, or should they go now? If they go it could be trouble (with Latino voters), but if they stay it will be double (with Conservative voters). So, ya' gotta let me know, Slick Willard, should they stay or should they go?

120 Is the vagina atom a faster-than-light particle?

Posted by: joncelli at November 23, 2011 12:48 PM (RD7QR)

No, that's the strange tingles quark.

121 Is the vagina atom a faster-than-light particle? Just faster than you. HI-YOOOOO!!!

122

Romney has 'No Core' - Plouffe

They are salivating over running against Mitt. Focus on flip-flops instead of economy. The MFM will help carry them by comparing to Kerry and making Kerry look like the Rock of Gibraltar.

123

If I went around saying "this person who I don't even know said his dog transforms into an alien every time he eats Skippy Peanut Butter"

Are you an expert that appears on the History Channel by chance? (just got around to watching the South Park History Channel episode about aliens at Plymouth)

124 The thing with Romney is that, in the end, you have to ask what we would win if he won the Presidency.

He is existentially Bush III--just like George in terms of being pro-big government and putting "compassion" ahead of freedom when he 'really feels" it---but Romney doesn't have any of the core beliefs tath Bush has.

George W. (under the tutelage of Karl Rove) managed to betray all conservative principles oterh than 'strong defense"and to turn the conservative ascendancy  of 2000 into a set-up for the far-left Obamaist victory of 2008.

All a Romney victory would ultimately do is advance the Left.  We'd be better off with a second Obama term, while fighting him in the courts, the congress and the states.

125

Just faster than you.

I'm looking for a guy that's got a slow touch, who doesn't come and go in a heated rush.

126 But I bet Mitt's poetry is better with that BA in English from BYU and all. LOL!

127

 

Particle man, particle man
Doing the things a particle can
What's he like? It's not important
Particle man

128 @125 Slow touch? How about a Slow Ride?

129
Did Rush read his True Meaning of Thanksgiving yet?

130

I'm looking for a guy that's got a slow touch, who doesn't come and go in a heated rush.

Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlInSeattle at November 23, 2011 12:52 PM (RZ8pf)

 

I'm your man.

131 It really is pretty insulting that Romney thinks he can lie so openly so frequently.

He is easily the most liberal contender for the GOP nomination.

He would be one of the most liberal contenders in the party's entire history.  This is someone who is plausibly a socialist, and a champion of abortion rights, gun grabbing, and amnesty (all things he's flipped on now, of course).

He would be liberal for a DEMOCRAT.  Even today!

Many democrats rejected Obamacare!  Including state level Obamacare (Romneycare)!

Ugh ugh ugh.

Romney knew spending was too high and he increased it.  Why in the hell does he have any supporters?  Even Huntsman was a better governor.

132 115 Here's what I don't understand: a perfectly reasonable and qualified candidate like Rick Santorum gets shit on because he comes off a little weird and endorsed some guy we don't like years ago, while complete dumbasses like Perry and Cain are defended pretty much no matter what shit they say or do.

----

The reason I back (and defend) Perry is that I think he has the best set of achievements and is currently governing.  Because of that I can put more weight on record over rhetoric. 

The trouble with a guy like Romney is his public service record is short and has this bloody big asterisk next to it (that he would have been so much more conservative had he not been in Massachusetts) and he's been out of office for a while and not doing anything of consequence, even as a spokesperson for conservative principles. 

133 I'm looking for a guy that's got a slow touch, who doesn't come and go in a heated rush. Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlInSeattle at November 23, 2011 12:52 PM (RZ8pf) How. Are. You. Doing?

134 Is he a dot, or is he a speck?
When he's underwater does he get wet?
Or does the water get him instead?
Nobody knows, Particle man

135 OT: ChadPergram  CMS Administrator Berwick resigns ahead of his recess appointment expiring in 38 days. Reid never tried to get him confirmed.

CMS=Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services

136 Are you an expert that appears on the History Channel by chance? (just got around to watching the South Park History Channel episode about aliens at Plymouth) Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlInSeattle at November 23, 2011 12:51 PM (RZ8pf) You could say that.

137 29 Did Rush read his True Meaning of Thanksgiving yet? Posted by: Soothsayer at November 23, 2011 12:53 PM (sqkOB) ================================= Doesn't he do that at the end, after all the money has been raised? I miss Ed McMahon.

138 Oh, on a side note. As an added bonus, after reading the transcript that I linked to above, I now have absolutly no idea what Mittens thinks about abortion.

139 Just faster than you.

I have found the proper application of alcohol can slow it just enough to experiment on.

140 @132

And in the case of a guy like Santorum, he has not been in charge of anything so it's much harder to credit his achievements and he's been out of office for a bit (and left in a pretty bad loss). 

141

Should they stay, or should they go now? If they go it could be trouble (with Latino voters), but if they stay it will be double (with Conservative voters). So, ya' gotta let me know, Slick Willard, should they stay or should they go?

Posted by: 29Victor at November 23, 2011 12:50 PM (ES9R7)

Thanks for posting that, I figured that clip was out of context, it was pretty short.

142 138 Oh, on a side note. As an added bonus, after reading the transcript that I linked to above, I now have absolutly no idea what Mittens thinks about abortion. Posted by: 29Victor at November 23, 2011 12:55 PM (ES9R7) That depends on what you think about it.

143
I miss Mister Ed.

144 Is the vagina atom a faster-than-light particle? Posted by: joncelli at November 23, 2011 12:48 PM (RD7QR) In this respect the vagina atom exhibits characteristics similar to Schrödinger's Cat paradox in relation to the observer: sometimes it comes first, sometimes it doesn't, but you never know until you try to find out.

145

Screw it! I'm writting in John Bolton.

I'm not voting Willard, Salamander, Ru Paul, Steve Perry, BockMan! Screw all of you! 

146 OT It's time for another game round of 'guess that party':
 
QUITMAN, GA (WALB) - 12 former Brooks County officials were indicted for voter fraud. The suspects are accused of illegally helping people vote by absentee ballot.
 
Strangely, no party at all was mentioned. It's probably just a random selection of Ds, Rs, and Independents.

147 @124
I don't like the comparisons between Romney and W.  Whatever his flaws, W was a leader of this country during a time of crisis and the troops loved him.  I've seen very little leadership from Romney, except on healthcare where he was an utter fail. 

148 I am more and more convinced you are actually Dennis Reynolds. That's absurd. My name is Empire of Jeff, not Dennis. Lemme just get this shirt off...

149 I wish I could see my poll.

150

Posted by: joncelli at November 23, 2011 12:56 PM (RD7QR)

So you're saying that he's a political mirror? Hmmph. Can't be. He's got way too much hair.

151

 

Universe man, Universe man
Size of the entire universe man
Usually kind to smaller man
Universe man

He's got a watch with a minute hand,
Millenium hand and an eon hand
When they meet it's a happy land
Powerful man, universe man

152 "It was only a small pizza, Wilbur..."
.................

And, did you know Mr Ed was really a Zebra?

153 I made a Mr. Ed reference around my daughter last night and it flew right over her head. Historical reference I guess. I couldn't imagine growing up and not watching Mr. Ed, Bewitched, I Dream of Jeannie, The Munsters..... the list could go on.

154

toby, I would yell at you for getting that song stuck in my head but it's awesome.  Have my thanks instead (imagine that there's a link leading to a picture of Dita at the thanks, not gonna bing images of Dita at work).

Are you an expert that appears on the History Channel by chance? (just got around to watching the South Park History Channel episode about aliens at Plymouth)

Oh.  God.  I am crack addicted to Ancient Aliens.  Crack.  Addicted.  The stupider and more bizarre the theory, the more I love it.  Though, seriously, I do think only alien tech explains that one guy's hair. 

155 It's a damn dirty lie!  No one ever says Hung like a zebra.

156 110 Like his "let's fire school janitors and let the kids do it" idea?

Curb those impulses?  He's just getting started!

WTF? Damn. There's always the 2012 end of the world.

157 >>toby, I would yell at you for getting that song stuck in my head but it's awesome. 

We are listening to Christmas music while the turkey cooks.  This Pandora app for the iPhone is fabulous (as long as you have an unlimited data plan). 

158 they are blank screens upon which the base can project its own hopes

Oh, like OWS, Tea Party and Ron Paul?

159 Though, seriously, I do think only alien tech explains that one guy's hair. Posted by: alexthechick at November 23, 2011 12:59 PM (VtjlW) Yeah, exactly what WERE they thinking when they let him get interviewed with his hair in that state? Did he insist? Did they decide that there was no way he could come off as any crazier? What?

160 Oh lord so Rush loved Bachmann's performance- the part where she said we are paying for - Paki Intel...? (Just not enough to be told that our number 1 most wanted- Osama was hidden behind hole #9 at their military Academy's golf course.)

161 Why are you cooking the Turkey today? Why not do it tomorrow, since tomorrow is Thanksgiving?

162 All a Romney victory would ultimately do is advance the Left.  We'd be better off with a second Obama term, while fighting him in the courts, the congress and the states.

Posted by: Kasper Hauser
...........
You gotta be nuts.

If the Supremes don't strike down Obamacare, guess what?  It's law.. a GOP House and Senate combined cannot do anything about it without a GOP prez.  And it starts kicking in big-time.

Guess what else happens on Jan 1, 2013, Mr Smartypants?  Bush tax cuts run out.  We all get a nice several thousand dollar tax hike.  Once again, a GOP majoity in both houses of Congress can do nothing to stop that. Thank you very much.

163

124 We'd be better off with a second Obama term, while fighting him in the courts, the congress and the states.


If Obama was a normal politician that might be a good strategy, but given the depth of his apparent hatred for us and the country that would be a very long four years.  And in the meantime he could make unlimited recess appointments to the courts and federal agencies, every commie in the country would get a turn and at the end of their appt be replaced by the next commie in line.

Do you really think businesses will start hiring if Obama gets another four years?  Do you really think the economy will perk up?  After eight years of Obama it could take the rest of the 21st century to climb out of that hole, and in the meantime more and more liberals will be created by the simple fact that if you don't have a job or job prospects, free money from Obama's stash starts to look pretty good.  Another FDR strategy at work.

164

So Mitt's calculation may be "You all know I've flipped and flopped and am really not terribly conservative, but you don't know that each of your new Flavors of the Week have done similar things, so my mission is to bring each candidate's Romneyesque deviations from conservative orthodoxy to your attention. Then you'll see each is nearly as flawed on ideology as I am, and you'll pick me not on ideology, but on general competency, because if everyone's kind of a RINO in one or more important ways, you might as well pick the guy who's polling the best."

 

 

dingdingding 

there it is

165 mmmm Om padi Romney hummmm

mmmm inevitelectabilicompetencity  hmmmmm

166 id they decide that there was no way he could come off as any crazier? What? Posted by: joncelli at November 23, 2011 01:02 PM (RD7QR) Obviously the work of Ancient Aliens.

167 127 Particle man, particle man
Doing the things a particle can
What's he like? It's not important
Particle man
__________

I like particle man. He always waves at me.

168 So Mitt's calculation may be "You all know I've flipped and flopped and am really not terribly conservative, but you don't know that each of your new Flavors of the Week have done similar things, so my mission is to bring each candidate's Romneyesque deviations from conservative orthodoxy to your attention. Then you'll see each is nearly as flawed on ideology as I am, and you'll pick me not on ideology, but on general competency, because if everyone's kind of a RINO in one or more important ways, you might as well pick the guy who's polling the best." Where did you get this information

169 161 Why are you cooking the Turkey today? Why not do it tomorrow, since tomorrow is Thanksgiving?

Posted by: Spicoli at November 23, 2011 01:02 PM (JMsOK)

---

I love football and also like to catch some of the Macy's parade.  So after years of me struggling to put the meal on on T-day and getting kind of frustrated by missing the games, Mr Y-not suggested we have the dinner the day before so we can both enjoy the football. 

Our families are small and very far away, so it's just us.  This works out great.  We spend real Thanksgiving in our pyjamas eating leftovers and relaxing. 

170 Is there a candidate that says that we keep the theoretical illegal immigrant who has been working hard and paying his taxes for 25 years [subject to verification of course] ... but deport the OWS parasites?


[& sorry, I'm really having trouble wrapping my head around having to hold my nose and vote for a g-dm liberal squish whose names remind me of a movie about a rat and a nursery rhyme involving crying kittens.]

171 kathleen I know that part of Bachmann's debate is being extolled as "brilliant" but let's examine that for a minute shall we? First-do you know that we pay the Pakis - 1.4 billion in foreign aid? Second -do you know that there is a distinction between "foreign aid" and "military aid" ? Third -take America out of the equation. Any Super Power in the world but America-embarrassed by an "ally" Like Pakistan would do a hell of a lot more than simply "review" whether or not they fork over 1.4 billion in foreign aid reflexively... How do you insure that the Pakis don't embarrass the hell out of you again? By what means could you try to correct their gawd damn behavior? Reviewing their damn foreign aid and making them recommit to why they might deserve that might be one of the most benign methods we have to "fix" Pakistan's lack of respect... if you get my drift.... In foreign diplomacy their is the Chinese value of- "saving face" how would you suggest America do that in this situation- bend over and take it-a la Bachmann?

172 Been sayin' that for weeks. Romney's refusal to reach out to the conservative base on the theory that they/we will fall in line once he is nominated smacks of arrogance. And if there is anything the base despises more than Obamunism, it's arrogance from the Republican Establishment.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at November 23, 2011 12:19 PM (azHfB)

It's the Mike Castle problem.  Not to rehash that race, but Castle could have won the nomination if he'd just sucked up to conservatives.  Instead he made a few votes -- unpopular among even moderates and wholly unnecessary -- in order to establish that he wasn't one of those icky conservatives.

It isn't hard.  You kiss up to conservatives a little and you'll reassure them.

173

@162,

WindyCity,

Yep.....I couldn't agree more. That's what just kills me about the Romney Bashers. We collectively need to make a decision and most everybody is still on the purity test rollercoaster. I guess they haven't figured out yet that they will not be getting what they want regardless.

The decision?

Either take Obama out now, or except the chaos of leaving him in, in hopes that it all passes quickly, and we have a collective redo. I believe that Romney and Gingrich know what needs to happend, and will be quite friendly to the Conservative Movement, so I think we should push one of them thru. And BTW......you purity testers out there...Please point out the purist Conservative in the field...because from my perspective they all suck, and I'm not impressed, but it doesn't mean I'm not out to boot Obama regardless!

  

 

 

174 147 I don't like the comparisons between Romney and W. Whatever his flaws, W was a leader of this country during a time of crisis and the troops loved him. I've seen very little leadership from Romney, except on healthcare where he was an utter fail.
_________

Did I say my first name was Mitt? I meant, of course, that it's W.

175 in diplomacy *there* is the Chinese idea of- "saving face"..

176

I reject Gingrich.  I reject Romney.  I reject Perry.  Hell, I reject all of them RINOs.  I reject all.

Listen up, punks, politics is about litmus tests.  If you're not getting 100% of what you want that just means you're losing slower.  Romney is a flip-flopper.  Turns out that Gingrich is an amnesty-pushing illegal immigrant pimp.  Don't even get me started about that vaccine pimp and Mexican lover, the RINO from Taxes, Price Perry.  Each of them has failed my litmus tests, which means they got to get gone.  If Gingrich is the nominee then I'll be voting for Obama.  If Romney is the nominee I'll vote for Obama twice, just to make sure.  If Perry is the nominee, hell, then I'll never vote for a Republican again in any election at any level of government.  That'll show 'em.

I live my non-political life the same way.  It's like that time that pencil necked geek at the insurance company didn't agree to all my demands regarding my life insurance.  So what I did is I pulled my business, canceled the coverage, surrendered the policy and then blew the proceeds on booze, hookers and card clubs.  Now if something happens my wife and kids literally will starve to death, but that's okay, chumps, on account of the fact that I sent my message:  No compromise. 

Compromise is only for sissies and chumps.  Like our Founding Fathers said when they set up the federal government:  No compromises!

Now that Gingrich, Romney and especially Perry are dead to me my purity of conservative intellect has led me to support Chairwoman Michele Bachmann for president.  Governor Bachmann is a true and pure white Christian conservative.  That alone is good enough for me.  Plus we know she's qualified to be president because she's had a bunch of kids and then taken in a bunch more as a foster parent.  Most importantly, and unlike PerryAmnesty, CEO Bachmann is not a Mexican loving, amnesty smoking RINO wimp. 

Bachmann-Cain, '12.  Lipstick and leather!

177

As far as the Illegals are concerned I'd love to hear ANY of our candidates start their reply to any question about illegal immigrants with the obvious: Illegal immigrants are FELONS to start with, and *IF* they're in our penal institutions for any other reason, they qualify under "two strikes your out", and after completing their term, they get deported. THEN we'll talk about what to do with all the other illegals. We don't need ANY illegal immigrants that are showing us that their best efforts leave them a burdon on our economic base via their incarceration in addition to their breaking INTO our country to start with.

Second: the BS idea that "asking about anyone's status is profiling" is just that. Pure and simple BS. Cain tried to dodge the issue the other night by referring to it as "selective investigation" or some such nuanced term. But it should be obvious by now that 99.99% of terrorists are arabic muslim males between the ages of 18 and 45. Also the largest percentage of illegal immigrants are "Mexican Nationals below the age of 45". While 50%+ of our incarcerated citizens are "illegal immigrants". Who then has anything to gain by ruling any background checks as "profiling and therefore politically incorrect"??? ONLY those who are guilty of crimes in the first place. Simply put, we need to bring back the right to profile as an aid to criminal investigation and USE our INS to deport those who we wouldn't have allowed through the immigration process to start with. The whole "they broke one law but we can't enforce another law already on the books because that would be profiling" concept is just bogus. Pure and simple.

178 oh and kathleen next time you might want to try thinking for yourself rather than- "Rush says...!!!11!1"

179 Yep.....I couldn't agree more. That's what just kills me about the Romney Bashers. We collectively need to make a decision and most everybody is still on the purity test rollercoaster.

Well, I'm not a purity voter.  You can tell yourself it's just the hard-core purity conservatives who are rejecting Mitt, but you're kidding yourself. 

If Mitt had spent the past few years dissecting the problems with Masscare and putting out a hundred-page policy white paper on what went wrong with it and explained what his "replace" plan is in his "Repeal and Replace" promise, I would consider voting for him.  Instead, he refuses to apply his alleged expertise in health care (you remember, the one he ran on last time) to show me a viable conservative solution.  And he decided to double down on ethanol. 

Hell, I'm not even a social conservative in the political sense, but even I'm offended by how much he's snubbed them. 

There are better choices than Mitt, even amongst centrists.  Had Christie run, I'd have supported him (although not over Perry) because he's shown he can kick the shit out of libs.  Mitt really hasn't demonstrated he can do that, perhaps because he doesn't really want to do that. 

180

Gawd I wish this were a thread about Sarah Palin spanking Michelle Bachmann on Youtube.

Or, better yet, on one of those adults-only BDSM sites...

 

181 We collectively need to make a decision and most everybody is still on the purity test rollercoaster.
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By the way, voting is not a collective process.  The collective decision comes at the convention when all the factions try to come together to sell the GOP nominee.  That's a long ways away. 

182

@179

I can sympathize...but place your bets, because I hate to be the one to tell you, but I'ts either gonna be Newt or Romney. Both of them are SHIT!

And when Nov. 2012 comes around I will breathlessly run to the booth to place my SHIT vote, with a SHIT eating grin on my face!

183 Two things for sure: I will get behind our nominee, and I will hate it.

Again.

184 They all suck.

At this point it's about figuring out who sucks the least and has the most potential upside.

185 Whoops, that was meant for the other thread.

Though it really can be said on every thread.

186 snap out of it.

187 Someone needs to ask Santorum and Bachmann both if the USSR had to be our friend and if they were "too nuclear to fail."  And then ask them if Iran gets the bomb must they then be our friend too and would they be "too nuclear to fail?"

188 buzzion... True. That's weird because I was about to leave a parting bon mot for kathleen. *If* the Pakis had done something similar to Russia-they'd be rolling over Pakistan with some carpet bombing at least-and most of the world would have said-the damn Pakis deserved it. How much blood and treasure did Russia waste looking for Mr. X? And, finally if Liberals are saying that Bachmann was genus last night-that's probably a sign that she was defending the usual Liberal foreign policy position- Bend-Over-and-Take -It. ...for a Republican to defend what essentially the Pakis did-to say they don't even deserve a review of their "allowance" for performance -is Mommy time in foreign policy-maybe thats' where Bachmann aligns with the Mommy Party. I guess no one remembers what a price we paid politically and in military lives for not finding Osama-how Liberals turned that into a campaign motto. And now we have Bachmann playing defense for the Obama Administration policy on Pakistan in the aftermath of finding out how they enabled Osama's survival.

189 Yeah that bullshit about exchanging intelligence with them.  Where was the intelligence that Bin Laden is living in the city with their major military training base?

190 Well obviously we didn't pay them enough..../sarc

191 Jeff B. actually thinks that "too nuclear to fail" was a good line.  And he likes to claim he's intelligent.

192 I know what we can do to our border but what about the people who are currently here? Is it possible to send them back? I mean are they able to work at current wages and maybe a work like visa but not a citizen? No one yet has a good plan except the obvious of securing border. The difficult part are the illegal aliens currently in the U.S, what will work and not give them outright amnesty. I would like to see Gingrinch's plan why is not worth the discussion, why is it daft? Where is Gingrinch's plan?

193 Calm down, "tasker", I was merely replying to Ace's "Rush says!!!!!!" headlined post in kind. I know it was a while back, but try to keep up.

194 Honesty Ace? Why don't we ask Newt's first two wives about that

195 #183 This- again. All 3 guys have enough holes to drive a Greyhound Bus through- against a guy who should be a sitting duck. Depressing.

196 kathleen IOW-you've got nothing. Noted. Other than some old shit that only you care about.

197 Jeff B. actually thinks that "too nuclear to fail" was a good line. And he likes to claim he's intelligent. o.m.g I missed that-did he say it in a sentence or 12 paragraphs?

198 Jeff B. would probably align himself with the Diablo if they helped his true love- Le Mitten...

199 <sup>42 Vic,

I didn't watch the debate. I had a commitment was forcefully committed.</sup>

^{Posted by: ace at November 23, 2011 12:31 PM (nj1bB)}

Fixed it for you.  You're welcome.

200 Chi-Town and Boots...

We did far more for conservatism and this country under Clinton with a GOP House and Senate than we did under Bush.

Under Romney we will still have a Democratic President.

Sorry, I will not vote for Romney any more than I voted for that despicable  John McCain.

I will not hinder the revolution.

201

Good Lord this is embarassing for conservatives.

A presidential candidate baiting people on twitter like a school girl with an half-quote that is a lie, and the base goes wild.

It s lie people. A half-quote lie. Newt looks like a real douche.

202 Anyone But Romney (THAT's the core)!

203 Romney a douche all the time!

204 Romney's a douche all the time . . . I meant.

205 If you want a scandal in the first two years of the presidency, vote Gingrich.  He not only attracts scandal, but he fosters it's environment for growth.

Gingrich is a bigger liar than anyone I have seen in this election cycle (e.g. "anyone who quotes me when I said that is lying"...WHAT????!!!!).  The only reason he gets away with it is because people think his belligerence is "refreshing".  It would be a huge mistake to follow this man.  It will lead you to a cliff.  He paints Romney as a liar by taking Romney's words out of context.  Words showing Gingrich's lies are NOT out of context.

206 96 "Hey Ace - You couldn't quote the twitter comment you're referring to? I get a blank twitter page when I go there." Newt took it down - disappeared it off his Twitter account. Either Newt, or a Newtrino. According to the OPERA team at CERN in France, low mass decayed neutrino might be able to go faster than the speed of light; maybe, maybe not - but it appears Newtrinos can go faster than the speed of Ace.

207 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

208 They all suck.

At this point it's about figuring out who sucks the least and has the most potential upside.

Posted by: DrewM. at November 23, 2011 01:28 PM (dw7rB)

In walks Roemer.

209

Romney is right... Again....

Newt acts like he is entitled to take positions that contradict the Republican Norm (i.e. Immigration Amnesty, Petitioning Government to put controls on his view that Man is responsible for Global Warming, Being against the Bush Tax Cuts, etc.)... He thinks he's protected in his decision to flush Republican Ethics and Morals (i.e. cheating on two wives and with possibly more than 2 women and then breaking the news that he wants a divorce so he can openly romance Calista while wife #2 is in the Hospital)... He thinks that it is okay to fleece Taxpayers by stealing unearned consulting fees from Freddie Mac..... Or to lie under oath and get fines $300K and get sanctioned, then run out of office by his own party...

If you ask me this article is "Shameless" and Desperate....

Romney is the best qualified candidate to be President on either side of the aisle... Deal with it.

210 206 96 "Hey Ace - You couldn't quote the twitter comment you're referring to? I get a blank twitter page when I go there."

Newt took it down - disappeared it off his Twitter account.

Either Newt, or a Newtrino. According to the OPERA team at CERN in France, low mass decayed neutrino might be able to go faster than the speed of light; maybe, maybe not - but it appears Newtrinos can go faster than the speed of Ace.

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at November 23, 2011 04:50 PM (vahvH)

Its still there for me.  Still there on his main twitter feed for 11:16am.  Twitter's interface is absolute shit and it fucks up so much not surprising you don't see it, but it is still there.

211 Romney is still a douche all the time and he'll never get my vote . . . IF he's the nominee I will vote for all conservatives up and down the ticket but will NOT vote for him (there a many, many, many many, conservatives who will likewise act on Election Day 2012).

Go anybody but Romney!

212 Romney will win without the 50,000 or so fringe conservatives who are so angry and bitter that they cannot recognize his superiority over the other candidates. GO MITT 2012! The closest thing to Reagan since well... Reagan!

213 Read Sean Trende's insight on RCP.  Romney wants to win Iowa to get that big mo going, and Iowa caucusers are apparently death on illegal immigration.  It's that simple.

Yeah, he's bound to tack this way and that in terms of his public statements.  You simply cannot get through both the Republican primaries and the general election otherwise.  Anybody who's just a total straight arrow say what he means 100% of the time solon will wind up with a 2% of the vote consolation prize.

Romney has no intention of that, I think -- of being a Ron Paul, with a passionate groupie following tending his extensive Wikipedia page listing the many races he almost won.  He wants to be President, the winnah and new champeen, and if he has to adjust what he says and how, along the way, without fully betraying his principles, he will.

I don't think he's  much worried about the deeply conservative wing of the Republican Party.  There are two possibilities: either (1) there are enough of these voters to deny him the nomination, in which case, since the American voting public is not, in fact, deeply conservative -- cf. Obama, Barack, 2008 victory of, Clinton, William Jefferson, 1992 and 1996 victories of, Bush, "Compassionate conservative education President" George, 200 and 2004, victories of -- whoever wins the nomination will go on to Goldwater/McGovern-like defeat next fall, or (2) there aren't enough of these voters to deny him the nomination.

In short, if he can't win the nomination by doing as he's doing, then he can't beat Obama next fall, so there's no upside and considerable downside to being pleasingly consistently conservative.

214 Romney never said any "pro-amnesty" remarks you lying sack of filth.  Gingrich cut off the quote MID-SENTENCE intentionally so fools and liars like you could claim that he did.  Romney went on IN THAT SAME SENTENCE to say that the "path" illegal aliens should take to citizenship is to GO HOME and get in line like everyone else.

I'll tell you what is shameless is the supposed "Christians" who are willing to sink to all levels of lying to make Romney out to be someone else - all because the idea of a Mormon in the White House scares them so much.

215 "Flip Flopper" = "I HATE him because he is a Mormon!"

216 You really make it seem so uderstandable with your presentation but I find this topic before really hard to understand. It seems too complicated and very broad for me.

217 I've always liked and admired Speaker Gingrich, but last night I was reminded again why the thought of Speaker Gingrich becoming the Republican nominee scares me this year.  I had been watching the Speaker with growing interest, but last night out of the blue he comes up with his control the border and by the way we'll need to find a way to legalize the millions of illegals that have been her for years.  I don't even really disagree, but with the border still wide open, with the entire country and world watching him, why would he encourage millions of new illegals to rush into the country hoping that if/when the border is ever controlled they'll be included in the legalization process?  All any candidate should say right now is that we should seal and control our border so only legal visitors and immigrants can enter.  Than we can discusss what we do with the 12 to 20 million already here.  My real fear if we nominate Speaker Gingrich to oppose Obama is that he could work his way to a lead in the polls, get to the final debate before the election, and not be able to stifle some new or wild idea in front of the entire country and blow the election.  Obama has done such terrible damage to our nation defeating him has to be the first priority of ever Republican.  Our country can't take 4 more years of Obama and have any hope of recovery!

218 Say what you may about Romney but he is the real deal.  He is the best all-around candidate the GOP has.  He is heads and shoulder above "where-is-the-teleprompter" Obama. 

Romney 2012!!!!

219
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220 I donÂ’t usually add my comments, but I will in this case. Nice work. I look forward to reading more.

221

There is never a perfect candidate.

 

At some point, conservatives are going to have to realize that there is no perfect candidate and assemble a compatible team between the President, Vice President, and the Secretary of State to provide an effective, experienced team to rebuild a Constitutional America.

 

It is futile to ask a conservative to accept a candidate that is conservative in self-proclaimed name only (because it is the flavor du jour).  We saw how disastrous that was in 2008 when the Republicans put forth a progressive candidate and tried to wrap him in conservative clothing.  58% of the Conservatives stayed home from the polls.  We canÂ’t afford for that to happen again.

 

First and foremost we need a candidate with proven commitment to conservative principles; a love and knowledge of the Constitution; and fervor to restore Constitutional governance.   

 

The basic candidate must also have proven experience as a leader with demonstrated ability to assemble the talents and experience required to solve complex and vexing problems.

 

ItÂ’s easier to augment their shortcomings in other areas if they are firmly grounded in the Constitution and are capable problem-solvers.  A knowledgeable and experienced diplomat at State can fill the need for a capable representative in foreign affairs.  A knowledgeable and experienced politician at vice president can guide and direct political efforts to earn cooperation in the Congress for problem solving legislation.

 

We havenÂ’t had a president in generations who didnÂ’t encounter the unexpected once in office, to such a degree that they couldnÂ’t have been prepared for it.  Those who were successful were the ones that surrounded themselves with experienced professionals in their cabinet; rather than equally inexperienced ideologues.

 

It would not be surprising to learn that many diplomatic scenarios are far different than they appear based solely on publically available information; or by observation from a distance.  To expect any candidate to have an intimate understanding of every facet of international and domestic politics, economics, trade, military operations, education, and business is utterly unrealistic.

 

Reagan wasnÂ’t the sharpest knife in the drawer, but his belief in the Constitution; his experience with the American Dream; his faith in the American people; and his indomitable optimism made him a formidable president.

222 I have been quite impressive with your posts, keep up the great work.

223 Pretty easily fooled crowd in here. If you read Romney's entire interview, he clearly states that all illegals would have to go home, and then apply for a work visa and go from there.

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225 I really don't get all the Romney-hate from so many people on our side. I seem to remember he was the more conservative choice to McCain in 2008. I'm starting to think Michael Reagan was right. Ronald Reagan would have trouble winning the GOP nomination today. Sad.