December 16, 2011
— Ace Good get.
"The election next November will have ramifications for generations," Haley said in a statement released by the Romney campaign. "Neither South Carolina nor the nation can afford four more years of President (Barack) Obama, and Mitt Romney is the right person to take him on and get America back on track."
This may count for Romney more outside of South Carolina. Jake Tapper points out Nikki Haley is actually not all that popular in her state at the moment.
But I think she's being derided for being a prisoner of the Tea Party. If that's the case, it helps Romney a bunch, since her endorsement will help him with the cohort most resistant to him.
Domenech says it's largely because she had a bad legislative session.
Anyway, it certainly can't hurt Romney to have a Tea Party darling on his team.
One thing it definitely does is remove a possible boon to Perry, who polls at only 9% in South Carolina.
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All of the candidates did a great job last night. But I think Romney showed himself to be the leader.. yeah.. start throwing crap at me.. I know no one here likes Romney. But he'll do fine.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 16, 2011 09:10 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: taylork at December 16, 2011 09:11 AM (5wsU9)
Chi-Town Jerry at December 16, 2011 01:10 PM (f9c2L)
Romney did fine last night and I am a Perry supporter
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at December 16, 2011 09:12 AM (mFxQX)
.........
That's possible.. and after last night, I hope they are all good and scared!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 16, 2011 09:12 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: tasker at December 16, 2011 09:12 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: EC at December 16, 2011 09:12 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 16, 2011 01:10 PM (f9c2L)
Watched my recording. Did not come off that way. Of course I hate Romney like most people but whatever.
I dont think the endorsement is going to matter much in SC. Mitt has already gotten endorsements with little to no effect. I just dont think they are as important anymore.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at December 16, 2011 09:13 AM (FKQng)
Romney did fine last night and I am a Perry supporter
Posted by: Velvet Ambition.........
Yeah.. it's not like I'm saying he hit it out of the park or anything.. but I just think after last night the objections to Romney will kinda fade away.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 16, 2011 09:14 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: ParisParamus at December 16, 2011 09:15 AM (YBbxJ)
Posted by: taylork at December 16, 2011 09:15 AM (5wsU9)
Posted by: tasker at December 16, 2011 09:16 AM (r2PLg)
This may count for Romney more outside of South Carolina. Jake Tapper points out Nikki Haley is actually not all that popular in her state at the moment
Don't believe that BS ace. These polls that are going in SC right now are virtually meaningless. Both of the major papers do an article daily attacking her. DAILY, and she isn't even running right now. The Democrat PR rags hate her.And up until now, she hasn't done anything to piss off the base. Now the people she has pissed off are twofold, first the Dems and then second the Graham wing of the Party. Her faction has wrested control of the State Party from his wing.
But all that is "inside baseball" shit. The rank and file person still likes her. But this WILL hurt her because most conservatives do NOT like Romney.
My feeling is that she has gone over to the "electability" BS.
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2011 09:16 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 16, 2011 09:16 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: blindside at December 16, 2011 09:17 AM (x7g7t)
Posted by: tasker at December 16, 2011 09:18 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 16, 2011 09:18 AM (8y9MW)
There's gonna be a lotta tears and gnashing of teeth when both Sarah Palin and Marco Rubio also endorse Mitt.
Posted by: soothsayer at December 16, 2011 09:18 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: blindside at December 16, 2011 09:19 AM (x7g7t)
Posted by: John P. Squibob at December 16, 2011 09:20 AM (Eg8C2)
Domenech says it's largely because she had a bad legislative session.
Those Winthrop polls are worse than a NYT or CNN poll. IOW they are totally biased pieces of shit.Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2011 09:20 AM (YdQQY)
Mitt did get a surprising endorse from the side of the angels this week, Rep. Dana Rohrabacher from CA:
"Of all the front runners running for President, Mitt is the strongest on issues that are top priorities for me: Illegal Immigration and China. On immigration he opposes amnesty, government benefits and employment for illegals."
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 16, 2011 09:20 AM (3wBRE)
No. Because words are still cheap, and actions still aren't. It will take a whole lot of words to make RomneyCare "fade away," and he's running out of time to say them.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 16, 2011 09:20 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at December 16, 2011 09:20 AM (21lBC)
Posted by: Vic
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Or, promised a shot at VEEP.
As far as the polls go, the lefty blogs and MSM are really pushing this meme that she is unpopular in SC. There was like one poll from a college that was highly disputed because of the number of Dems who were polled. It also had Obama 12 points higher in popularity than the rest of the country.. So, Ace.. watch out who you are getting advice from about GOP pols..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 16, 2011 09:20 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: The Q at December 16, 2011 09:21 AM (LnQhT)
Posted by: tasker at December 16, 2011 09:22 AM (r2PLg)
I think I finally sussed out Romney's strategy.
He keeps the spigot on half-way, slowly opening it only when he needs to. This way, he doesn't go balls-deep right away and blow his nut. Slow 'n steady all the way.
But when he feels someone is getting a little close, he opens the spigot a little more. Maybe an endorsement. Maybe he tosses out a little red meat.
From Romney's perspective, he's doing fine. Perry faded. And now Newt is burning out. And ol' Mitt is chugging along.
Posted by: soothsayer at December 16, 2011 09:23 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at December 16, 2011 09:24 AM (21lBC)
The four most popular presidential candidates in my lunatic leftwing town:
1. Obama
2. Ron Paul
3. Jon Stewart
4. Stephen Colbert
Posted by: Juji Fruit at December 16, 2011 09:24 AM (O7ksG)
Posted by: blindside at December 16, 2011 09:24 AM (x7g7t)
Posted by: soothsayer at December 16, 2011 01:18 PM (sqkOB)
I can see Marco Rubio endorsing him in the primary with little effect. It only serves to hurt him. But Palin wont endorse Mitt unless he gets the nomination bank on it. Mitt is unpopular in a lot of conservative circles outside of the NE and beltway. The guy has steady support but it wont help him cause the early prmarys are not winner take all anymore which helped McCain a lot.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at December 16, 2011 09:24 AM (FKQng)
Posted by: The Q at December 16, 2011 09:24 AM (LnQhT)
Obamacare approve/disapprove: 29/49
This from AP/GFK
Also:
Obama Deserve Relection/Needs to Go: 43/52
Posted by: CAC at December 16, 2011 09:24 AM (JEVge)
Posted by: brak at December 16, 2011 09:25 AM (QvwKo)
She's definitely not endorsing until the general
Posted by: The Q at December 16, 2011 09:26 AM (LnQhT)
Posted by: Soona at December 16, 2011 09:26 AM (R4oqL)
yeah, Sarah's endorsement is iffy.
But my instincts tell me she dislikes Mitt less than she dislikes Newt.
Posted by: soothsayer at December 16, 2011 09:27 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Vic
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Or, promised a shot at VEEP.
Heh, the Richmond Times Dispatch had a full page article on a Sunday ago about McDonnell being a possible VP..
Posted by: Dave C at December 16, 2011 09:27 AM (EJ08b)
Posted by: tasker at December 16, 2011 09:27 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: CAC at December 16, 2011 09:27 AM (JEVge)
Posted by: AllenG
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I respect that opinion.. I just don't believe that opinion is as widely held as you believe, nor is it a show stopper for most voters. But I could be wrong.. we'll see soon.
As far as words vs. actions go.. every one of those folks up there last night have had to walk stuff back... Romney, Newt, and Perry especially. But it always seems Romney is the one stuck with this "his past actions make him unsuitable" theme.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 16, 2011 09:27 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2011 09:28 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: brak at December 16, 2011 01:25 PM (QvwKo)
Mitt Romney will not be the repub nominee.
Posted by: Soona at December 16, 2011 09:28 AM (R4oqL)
This really surprised me. ....What is Nikki Haley thinking? ....Is she wanting the VP slot? Does she have some old campaign debt that she needs to pay off?
Has Romney kidnapped her dog?
Posted by: wheatie......aka ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at December 16, 2011 09:28 AM (HvKWW)
Posted by: Chilling the most for perry at December 16, 2011 09:28 AM (6IV8T)
Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at December 16, 2011 09:29 AM (6IReR)
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2011 09:29 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 16, 2011 09:29 AM (d1FhN)
Posted by: tasker at December 16, 2011 09:29 AM (r2PLg)
Some of these endorsements are coming from people who just want to get this damn nomination over with before we destroy each other.
That's my thinking, anyway. So if Sarah P endorses a candidate in the next couple of weeks, she's only doing it to save what's left of the last-best candidate's image.
Think about it.
There comes a point when a primary battle has rapidly diminishing returns. Newt and Mitt are already saying stupid shit to one another and that doesn't do anybody any good.
Posted by: soothsayer at December 16, 2011 09:30 AM (sqkOB)
Romney did endorse her in the gov primary, but it had zero impact. When Haley endorsed her she shot immediately to the top (from the bottom).
So yeah, maybe she felt she owed him, but she owed Palin more. Of course, Palin is not running.
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2011 09:31 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at December 16, 2011 09:31 AM (21lBC)
Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 16, 2011 09:31 AM (hcJkV)
Before even the first primary? What wimps we've become!
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at December 16, 2011 09:31 AM (bjRNS)
Newt is currently trending down. So Mitt has little to worry about at the moment.
His shitty campaign strategy appears to be working.
God help us if he uses the same strategy in the general.
Posted by: soothsayer at December 16, 2011 09:32 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: brak at December 16, 2011 09:33 AM (QvwKo)
Posted by: chique d'afrique
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Who are these mythical folks trying to foist Mitt on us?
Newt sabotaged himself.. as did Perry and all the rest. This is paranoid nonsense.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 16, 2011 09:33 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at December 16, 2011 01:30 PM (plI4b)
Yes! I wasted donations on him last time around just like I'm wasting them on Perry this time around! Wooohooo!
Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 16, 2011 09:33 AM (hcJkV)
Posted by: tasker at December 16, 2011 09:34 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at December 16, 2011 01:31 PM (bjRNS)
This.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 16, 2011 09:34 AM (hcJkV)
Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at December 16, 2011 09:35 AM (0K5Vv)
The Yorkies got to her.
Byron Yorkie and the Yorkie World Domination Federation have taken her children hostage and are threatening to eat them.
Posted by: wheatie......aka ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at December 16, 2011 09:35 AM (HvKWW)
Posted by: soothsayer at December 16, 2011 01:30 PM (sqkOB)
I agree with you for the most part. BUT, we have had a chance to see just how crazy Luap Nor is, and how inaffectual Huntsman seems to be. Romney has been outed to who he really is; an opportunist.
The debates have hurt Bachmann and Perry, unfortunately. But I'm still voting for Perry.
Posted by: Soona at December 16, 2011 09:37 AM (R4oqL)
I think it's starting to hit Newt as well. And the only reason it doesn't for Perry (for me) is that he doesn't really have any actions I think of as disqualifying. I didn't like how he handled Guardisil, but I understood it, and couldn't define it as "government over-reach" since it was clearly a power of the State Government to mandate vaccinations. Same with TTC, I personally and politically opposed it, but I don't see it as a "land grab," building roads is a main part of what eminent domain is for.
Even Texas Dream isn't that big a deal to me. Again, not one I would have chosen, but I can see legitimate arguments for it.
On the other hand, he has shrunk government (relative to population growth), overseen 45% of the new job growth in America in the last 2 years, and fought for balanced budgets (specifically- fought for cuts instead of just dipping into our Rainy Day fund). He champions private and home-schooling, and had done what he can do of any effectiveness to try to seal the border. Those more than over-ride any conservative failures he's had.
Back to Romney- he has none of those things. Even if I grant that he was a conservative in a liberal state, the things he didn't allow to pass just don't hold as much weight as the things he did.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 16, 2011 09:37 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 16, 2011 01:33 PM (f9c2L)
Yeah, what a ridiculous charge.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 16, 2011 09:37 AM (FkKjr)
Haley's smart enough to know that, since Ocare is here to stay, we need a guy with a great resume to make it run efficiently.
Plus, she's gonna need his money next time around.
Posted by: Will Folks' brother in law at December 16, 2011 09:38 AM (K/USr)
Posted by: Nikki Haley at December 16, 2011 09:38 AM (p5NB6)
Every GOP Rove-class endorsement of a candidate brings him down one notch in my opinion.
So I'm still with either Newt or Perry.
I know squat about Nikki Haley, but the campaign money angle does sound interesting.
Posted by: jwb7605 at December 16, 2011 09:38 AM (Qxe/p)
His shitty campaign strategy appears to be working.
God help us if he uses the same strategy in the general.
Posted by: soothsayer at December 16, 2011 01:32 PM (sqkOB)
Intrade changes all the time. A pro newt pac just got a lot of money. It all depends on how he uses it. He could win Iowa, then go on to SC and FLorida since Georgia is right between them,
I dont get this talk of palin endorsing Romney in the primaries. I think she likes Newt better really.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at December 16, 2011 09:39 AM (FKQng)
Posted by: Chilling the most for perry at December 16, 2011 09:39 AM (6IV8T)
Posted by: Capt'n Ahab, stamping his peg leg at December 16, 2011 09:39 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: SFGoth at December 16, 2011 09:39 AM (dZ756)
Posted by: Mr Pink at December 16, 2011 09:40 AM (HwrJu)
Posted by: Will Folks at December 16, 2011 09:41 AM (tqwMN)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at December 16, 2011 09:42 AM (21lBC)
Perry for President 2012
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 16, 2011 09:42 AM (d1FhN)
Posted by: Dave at December 16, 2011 09:43 AM (Xm1aB)
^This.
Posted by: Y-not at December 16, 2011 09:44 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Max Power at December 16, 2011 09:45 AM (q177U)
Posted by: Ann d'Mestik at December 16, 2011 09:45 AM (WlxL9)
The debates were set up with rules that allowed the moderators to shit on Perry and they did. Not only that, but the other candidates attacked Perry relentlessly in the debates.
How did Newt get ahead after sitting on the couch with Pelosi? He attacked the moderators. That was like throwing red meat to the base. So even in that the moderators hurt Perry.
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2011 09:45 AM (YdQQY)
Jon Stewart just launched a vicious attack on Newt so maybe he will make a come back.
Posted by: WalrusRex at December 16, 2011 09:45 AM (Hx5uv)
Laura Ingraham seems to believe what a lot of commentors here believe: Bachmann is for Romney.
I don't see it, myself. Bachmann certainly can't stand Newt, but I'm not sure she's secretly trying to help Mitt -- that would be devious, which is not a trait with which I'd associate Bachmann.
Anyway, if Bachmann finds Newt appalling, it's a safe guess Sarah Palin does, too.
Posted by: soothsayer at December 16, 2011 09:45 AM (sqkOB)
Has Romney kidnapped her dog?
Posted by: wheatie......aka ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at December 16, 2011 01:28 PM (HvKWW)
Ohhhh Mitt, don't hurt Mr. Barkykins!!!!
Posted by: Gov. Haley at December 16, 2011 09:45 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Soona at December 16, 2011 09:45 AM (R4oqL)
ISO Female Gov. to join my boyfriend and I for a FFM good times.
Must be a sitting Governor.
Must be attractive and must be ok with HC mandates.
FFM experience preferred but not necessary.
Please be drug and disease free. We can host.
Respond with a pic and put 'Magic Undies' in the title of your email so I know you aren't spam. Please, no men.
Let's make this happen.
Thanks Jen R.
Posted by: Craigslist SC : mw for w at December 16, 2011 09:45 AM (YihYc)
Posted by: maddogg at December 16, 2011 09:45 AM (OlN4e)
I think, they'll both wait until someone has a lock on the nomination.
Even though they've more than likely favoring someone,
neither one of them is the type to cry in their soup, if their candidate doesn't win the nomination.
Posted by: franksalterego at December 16, 2011 09:46 AM (9XykO)
when faces with a choice between two lying liberal scumbags, a lot of people are just going to say "meh" and not bother. you can't compel people to play a game they know is rigged.
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 16, 2011 09:47 AM (d1FhN)
Posted by: Dave at December 16, 2011 09:48 AM (Xm1aB)
A) She's not competing for the same types of voters as Romney, but is with everyone else.
B) She really is favoring Romney and either wants to be his VP or wants his limitless cash to bankroll her run for the Senate
Posted by: The Q at December 16, 2011 09:49 AM (LnQhT)
Posted by: soothsayer at December 16, 2011 01:45 PM (sqkOB)
I think Sarah and Bachmann are totally different people. Bachmann is all ego, while Palin is a bit more reserved. Bachmann probably thinks of herself as a tea party queen
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at December 16, 2011 09:50 AM (FKQng)
Posted by: M80B at December 16, 2011 09:50 AM (d6QMz)
O/T $915B megabus passed 296-121. 86 Rs voted no.
And this is why we'll be lucky to hold on to the House in '12.
Posted by: soothsayer at December 16, 2011 09:52 AM (sqkOB)
I think Sarah and Bachmann are totally different people. Bachmann is all ego, while Palin is a bit more reserved. Bachmann probably thinks of herself as a tea party queen
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at December 16, 2011 01:50 PM (FKQng)
AHOY!
Posted by: PALINISTO! at December 16, 2011 09:54 AM (YihYc)
Posted by: Boone at December 16, 2011 09:58 AM (fVaSb)
Posted by: Paper at December 16, 2011 10:02 AM (vJ7iJ)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at December 16, 2011 10:02 AM (FKQng)
Posted by: Bluedog803 at December 16, 2011 10:09 AM (RCwVo)
Stealing this from Hot Air. 'cause...ya know....that never happens here
Good thing for Nikki the voters of SC ignored all the “electability” arguments at this stage in her race.
Kataklysmic on December 16, 2011 at 2:24 PM
Posted by: 29Victor at December 16, 2011 10:54 AM (ES9R7)
Posted by: BobInFL at December 16, 2011 11:15 AM (mD1l+)
Posted by: Old Coach at December 16, 2011 11:28 AM (qhDb6)
I think if Palin had entered the race she would have cleaned up SC.
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2011 11:48 AM (YdQQY)
Same with Rubio, if it's close, he'll back Mitt to make sure he carries Florida.
The "Tea Party" Republicans that actually got elected understand you can't have a train wreck like Newt at he top of the ticket, you're looking at a double digit wipe out. If there was another electable conservative, they wouldn't be backing Mitt.
I call that smart pragmatism, we can't afford a second Obama term, and Romney is the only guy that can knock him off.
Posted by: 8 Track at December 16, 2011 02:22 PM (0kf1G)
Posted by: D.C. Dead iBooks at December 16, 2011 05:07 PM (GeprT)
Posted by: Christmas Sleigh Plan at December 16, 2011 05:37 PM (l94RK)
Posted by: RSS Newsreader Apps at December 16, 2011 06:00 PM (fA4z/)
Romney did shrink government in MA and got rid of huge (for the state) debt. MA was bleeding jobs and businesses and he turned that around as well. No MA was not a national job leader but it was in much better shape after he took over.
I like his business experience and how well he did there - so did many who he helped. Those people who work with Romney really like Romney. While Newt gets almost no endorsements because no one can stand working with him (because he does not work with them). What others so about you, those you have helped, those that have worked beside you, tells a lot about character.
Romney is not my "perfect" candidate but he is the best candidate. I do not believe he gets guns and he is not a rockstar Mr. Charisma. There is a lot of crap out there on Romney - some of it true most of it false. I'll take him anyday over the others in the field.
Posted by: Evan at December 16, 2011 06:33 PM (O3OlP)
Posted by: Apollo’s Angels ePub at December 16, 2011 09:19 PM (m1psR)
Her battle to the Governors mansion was a total dog fight if you will recall. Now that I've calmed down a bit and the voice of reason is back I'm going to cut her some slack for now.
She may be having to triangulate to survive, especially if the Graham wing/good old boy RINO network is teaming up with Democrats to tear her down.
Posted by: jimstl at December 16, 2011 11:58 PM (Er/xb)
I've said it before, people who have worked with Romney like Romney. Too many posters think he is pure RINO antichrist, destroyer of worlds. No - he is good man and will do fine as president. I'll vote for anyone over Obama - even Paul or Newt, but I hope Romney makes it.
Posted by: Evan at December 17, 2011 12:32 AM (O3OlP)
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