August 01, 2011

Norah O'Donnell Goes After Jay Carney With Tough Questions
— Ace

Ah, Norah. A reliably reflexive liberal know-nothing, endlessly promoted through the ranks simply because she had Beauty Queen looks.

Finally she interrogates an administration official fiercely.

There's a catch, of course. Norah O"Donnell of MSNBC and Chris Matthews' Spank Bank demands to know why Obama sold us out.

Beauty fades but stupid lingers.

Specifically, CBS’s Norah O’Donnell peppered Carney with terse, accusatory questions about the lack of tax revenue (read: tax increases) in the debt ceiling deal. O’Donnell complained about how many GOP demands were met by the deal, and then said to Carney: “You gave them everything they wanted and we got nothing.” That “we” is very telling. It was a tense moment in the room, and O’Donnell seemed to give voice to frustrated liberals who feel the deal gave significantly more to Republicans than Democrats, and included no tax increases–something President Obama had demanded be included for most of the negotiations.

There is an argument about whether that "we" is as telling as it seems -- some defend Norah O'Donnell, claiming at this part of her question, she was asking a question from the point of view of the deal's progressive critics, and not in her own voice, necessarily.

I'd make three points: First, she's got some emotion invested in this question. You can hear the frustration in her voice. I don't think she's a talented woman, so I don't think she's just conjuring up some channeled dramatic pitch here.

Second, it is telling, to me, how solicitous she is of the progressive caucus' concerns. Throughout this entire debt deal, I have heard again and again how Republicans' concerns are either illegitimate or possibly borderline, arguably legitimate but will simply have to be put aside for the good of the country; but note that when it comes to a progressive whine about tax increases, she's on board in trumpeting that complaint.

Because that complaint, you see, is objectively superior to the conservatives' complaint. It must be, because no objective reporter would otherwise behave as if it has been objectively determined that one side is objectively right and one side is objectively wrong.

Third, and this really is just a variation of the last one, but it's important: Throughout this we have heard the MFM scream at the tops of their lungs that conservatives must compromise their principles away, and be less willing to fight for their agenda, because compromise trumps conservative values.

But what's Norah O'Donnell's implication here? Liberals and liberals alone should have fought harder for their agenda.

I thought fighting for principles was bad, no? It turns out I've missed yet another nuance.

So, objectively, we can rank the three values here in objective order, and we know this is the proper prioritization of these values because objective reporters, who are completely objective, have objectively ranked them thus:

1. First priority: the progressive agenda

2. Second priority: compromising for "the good of the country"

3. Third and last, absolute-bottom-level priority: the conservative agenda


So, there you go, an objective explanation for this seeming inconsistency in the MFM's attitudes, reporting, questions, and advocacy.

It is objectively determined that Progressivism > Compromise > Conservatism.

That's not bias. That's just the objective truth, and you know that must be true, because the objective reporters in the media are telling you so.

Thanks to Slublog.


Posted by: Ace at 10:20 AM | Comments (119)
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1 Finally she interrogates an administration official fiercely.

She went after him during the last presser that I watched as well. It looks like for at least her, she is taking tapper's place.

Posted by: Vic at August 01, 2011 10:22 AM (M9Ie6)

2 Conservatives are never part of we.

Posted by: toby928™ at August 01, 2011 10:22 AM (GTbGH)

3 My, Ace seems.........bold this morning.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at August 01, 2011 10:22 AM (2PTT7)

4 But yes, in this case too bad she attacked for not being communist enough.

Posted by: Vic at August 01, 2011 10:23 AM (M9Ie6)

5 CBSÂ’s Norah OÂ’Donnell peppered Carney with terse, accusatory questions about the lack of tax revenue (read: tax increases) in the debt ceiling deal.

Absolutely nothing is stopping Ms O'Donnell from paying whatever tax rate she believes is correct.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 01, 2011 10:24 AM (7BU4a)

6 included no tax increases–something President Obama had demanded be included for most of the negotiations.

this is rather a red herring. When given the choice, Obama signed on to re-upping the Bush tax cuts.

Obama may want higher taxes, but he doesn't care about raising the rates right now much.

He wanted trillions more to piss away, and he got just that.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 01, 2011 10:26 AM (7BU4a)

7

O’Donnell complained about how many GOP demands were met by the deal, and then said to Carney: “You gave them everything they wanted and we got nothing.”

Isn't there a way we can just kill all the people on the Right?

Posted by: The Unbiased and Objective Mainstream Media, Working Towards a Better World at August 01, 2011 10:26 AM (QKKT0)

8
Fuck. You. Norah. O'Donnell.

Posted by: Corporate Jets at August 01, 2011 10:26 AM (G/zuv)

9 But has she reached scrunt status?

Seriously, you are spot-on. She had a lot more personally invested in that question then some alleged third-person voice.

Posted by: Marcus at August 01, 2011 10:26 AM (GyjB8)

10 I heard this AM that something like 93% of the Media voted Democratic. That's actually higher than College Professors. So at least this scrunt was honest when she said "We".

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 01, 2011 10:27 AM (i6RpT)

11 She looks like she gives very good head.

Posted by: Mr Pink at August 01, 2011 10:27 AM (IE82C)

12 Wait. Women can pudding dip?

Posted by: Marcus at August 01, 2011 10:27 AM (GyjB8)

13 But has she reached scrunt status? If the panties fit....?

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 01, 2011 10:28 AM (i6RpT)

14
Norah O'Donnell.

Now here's a women who's sexin' should only be nuttin on her face.


Posted by: Soothsayer at August 01, 2011 10:28 AM (G/zuv)

15

That word "objective" doesn't mean what she seems to think it means. She also makes it crystal clear what she thinks the word "compromise" means, namely that conservatives must capitulate, always and forevermore, to what the far-left radical Progressives want.

But we knew that already.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 01, 2011 10:28 AM (d0Tfm)

16 peppered Carney with terse, accusatory questions about the lack of tax revenue (read: tax increases)

Does she believe that raised taxes are really what she wants?  Really?  Really, really??  It's just got to be a show, doesn't it?  I mean no one can be this stupid, can they?  Please say no, so I can exit the corner and stop sucking my thumb.

Posted by: dogfish at August 01, 2011 10:28 AM (NuPNl)

17 I was in physical therapy for an hour this morning and got to watch CNN for the first time in ages.  Do they always spit out the words "Tea Party" as if they were afraid of getting a disease if those words stayed on their lips too long?

Posted by: Z as in Jersey at August 01, 2011 10:28 AM (sXUiz)

18
er, I would not give Norah O'Donnell the sexual satisfaction.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 01, 2011 10:28 AM (G/zuv)

19 What has it gots in its pocketses?  Sneaksy little thief.  We hates it.  We hates Tea Parties.

Posted by: Norah O'Tunnel at August 01, 2011 10:28 AM (agD4m)

20

Norah, why don't you and all your pals at NBC take no itemized deductions on your next return and then take 50% of what's left and gift it to the Treasury. Give yourself a tax hike.

And that goes for you too Buffett. And your loss reserve account. Warren, why wait until your dead to give your money to the government to spend wisely? Oh, that's right, you gift it to a foundation as a charitable deduction allowing you to direct it per Gates.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at August 01, 2011 10:28 AM (qwK3S)

21 Does she believe that raised taxes are really what she wants? Does the scrunt know she can always pay extra taxes if she wants?

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 01, 2011 10:29 AM (i6RpT)

22 Andrea Mitchell and Norah O'Donnell in a lip-lock, with puddin-wah?

Posted by: Marcus at August 01, 2011 10:31 AM (GyjB8)

23 That "we got nothing" has future implications as well.  The proglodytes believe that since Obama bent them over and ass fucked them this time, next time it will be time for a little payback.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 01, 2011 10:31 AM (Hx5uv)

24 unless someone can give me ONE example of her arguing with the PS from the POV of a conservative, I'm going with "emotionally invested".

Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at August 01, 2011 10:31 AM (UrPTC)

25

I picked this up over a TPM Josh Marshall is promoting it.

Let me get this straight. The President kept revenues on the table, did not touch the sunset provisions in the Bush tax cuts, ensured that military cuts keep the GOP honest, protected Medicare by adding in only provider cuts in the trigger, made the reduction apparently enough to stave off a debt downgrade, got the debt ceiling raised, wounded Boehner by demonstrating to the world that he is controlled by the Tea Party caucus, took out the requirement that a BBA be passed and sent to the states and got the extension through 2012? What exactly is wrong with this deal?

So the spin starts.

 

Posted by: Mister Money at August 01, 2011 10:31 AM (wN82N)

26 Hey, Norah, you ignorant twat, who's the "we" in this equation??

Clearly not the American people.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 01, 2011 10:32 AM (pLTLS)

27 Stephen Hayes is saying that she prefaced the "we" with "Democrats are saying". Also from his twitter: "There is no question the mainstream media lean left. But, again, phony claims of media bias undermine real ones."

Posted by: Johnny at August 01, 2011 10:32 AM (iT/Iy)

28 Sacred honor compels me to admit that I once nutted on Whorah O'Donnel's face.

It was on my television at the time, but I think that still counts.

Posted by: Obligatory Will Folkes reference at August 01, 2011 10:32 AM (3Okgs)

29 I think that Norah looks like a frog. Somethong about her eyes

Posted by: flodigarry at August 01, 2011 10:32 AM (fyJAZ)

30
The amazing thing is that according to the media, there is No Merit whatsoever in being fiscally responsible.

They simply cannot fathom the notion.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 01, 2011 10:32 AM (G/zuv)

31 Libs have to be seen whining and moaning and crying so they can continue the pretense that this isnÂ’t a 100% wonderful deal for the proggies and Bambi (which it is).

Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 01, 2011 10:33 AM (l04LX)

32 Norah doesn't want higher taxes to get the government more money (theoretically).  She wants more taxes to punish you.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 01, 2011 10:33 AM (agD4m)

33 she is the type of chick that you would bang but as soon as she opens up her mouth (for not to gobble cock) you can't but help to get the urge to take a dump on her chest

Posted by: The Dude at August 01, 2011 10:33 AM (M8yfa)

34 A reliably reflexive liberal know-nothing, endlessly promoted through the ranks simply because she had Beauty Queen looks.

Ace is just mad because she got promoted for her T&A rather than for her I&Q.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 01, 2011 10:33 AM (Hx5uv)

35 What a fun typo. I meant twit. However, the 'a' works just as well.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 01, 2011 10:33 AM (pLTLS)

36 I know this might be a dumb question and all but wasn't there a time when out and out bias such as saying "we" in reference to libs would get these people fired? Especially when it obviously is effecting her coverage since That's how she asked the question and has been covering this.

Posted by: Mr Pink at August 01, 2011 10:34 AM (IE82C)

37 24 Does she believe that raised taxes are really what she wants?

Does the scrunt know she can always pay extra taxes if she wants?

She, and most of the left, believe heavily in class warfare and compulsion, NOT free will.

Anything short of sticking it to "The Man" and giving handouts to the poor oppressed classes strikes her as patently unfair.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 01, 2011 10:35 AM (JqpkY)

38 I know this might be a dumb question and all but wasn't there a time when out and out bias such as saying "we" in reference to libs would get these people fired? Especially when it obviously is effecting her coverage since That's how she asked the question and has been covering this. Posted by: Mr Pink at August 01, 2011 02:34 PM (IE82C) Hey pink guy, remember how they treated me in Watergate?

Posted by: R. Nixon at August 01, 2011 10:36 AM (i6RpT)

39 @30 Yeah, they always manage that "Democrats say," right before flawlessly reciting the talking points.

Ever notice they can never manage to accurately repeat what Republican say?

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 01, 2011 10:36 AM (agD4m)

40 And when did she switch over to CBS? MSNBC seemed like such a good fit for her. Is it because they stopped covering her scripts? (Wasn't there an article a few weeks about how MSNBC's health care plan was now excluding some mental health prescriptions?? Maybe I'm imagining this as it seemed so funny)

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 01, 2011 10:37 AM (pLTLS)

41 I know this might be a dumb question and all but wasn't there a time when out and out bias such as saying "we" in reference to libs would get these people fired? Especially when it obviously is effecting her coverage since That's how she asked the question and has been covering this.

Juan "The Martyr" Williams got fired for not being biased enough.  Does that count?

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 01, 2011 10:37 AM (Hx5uv)

42 O/T

But speaking of crazy/stupid bitches; I just got an e-mail from Christine O'Donnell asking for money.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 01, 2011 10:39 AM (LH6ir)

43
Hi, I'm one of the original Tea Party members.

I have to be honest, this bill goes too far. The cuts are draconian. And I'm afraid that voters in 2012 will remember how the Republicans kept the economy hostage. Sorry, but it's true.

Posted by: long time Tea Partier at August 01, 2011 10:39 AM (G/zuv)

44 oh, another thought on the right's inability to negotiate. I think that Obama screwed himself, and the right should have realized it. In Obama's call for "compromise," it seems that he invalidated his own veto. That is, any deal that got through would be compromise and Obama would have to accept it. Thus, the White House veto and input wouldn't count. Ugh, this deal sucks.

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 01, 2011 10:39 AM (QxSug)

45 Beauty Queen looks?

Do NOT overlook her knob gobbling ability or penchant for same.

Posted by: jukin at August 01, 2011 10:39 AM (vkkNZ)

46 Anyone thinking this isn't her own opinion is either stupid or lying.  Or, in the case of Progressives, both...

Posted by: dfbaskwill at August 01, 2011 10:40 AM (71LDo)

47 What an empty and pathetic place the left has devolved to. Tax other people, give us more free shit and spend with no regard. Why any rational person would want to be a part of an immature and intellectually bankrupt movement like that is beyond me.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 01, 2011 10:40 AM (TMB3S)

48 Stupid whore.  "We", AKA "they" get a fucking seven percent raise on their slush funds every fucking year, year after year, decade after decade.  That's why we're boned!

Posted by: Sharkman at August 01, 2011 10:40 AM (wMsKw)

49 ; I just got an e-mail from Christine O'Donnell asking for money. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 01, 2011 02:39 PM (LH6ir) And I bet she doesn't give handjobs for donations over 500$

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 01, 2011 10:40 AM (i6RpT)

50

" . . . we got nothing . . ."

"We"? What the hell happened to Somesay? Some of you legal beagles need to jump on this. Does Somesay have a case for wrongful termination? Is he a victim of a RIF stemming from media downsizing?

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at August 01, 2011 10:41 AM (qwK3S)

51 Oh, hi #47, I am a concerned christian conservative and I too am upset that this bill is so draconian that I will have to vote for Obama in 2012. Any cuts must be coupled with tax increases. I only support cutting $1 a year for the next 20trillion years.

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 01, 2011 10:41 AM (QxSug)

52 Funny what happens when you invest the divine into the secular. Norah and her ilk worship the horizontal, ergo, God is man, and God ain't paying his fair share. Worse is that the Messiah didn't deliver the loafs and fishes. Sucks when your belief system crumbles in front of your "lying" eyes. Hey Norah, bite me.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 01, 2011 10:43 AM (3JtF1)

53 Libs have to be seen whining and moaning and crying so they can continue the pretense that this isnÂ’t a 100% wonderful deal for the proggies and Bambi (which it is).

The White House gives the game away on their website - they have an article up where they're openly giddy about the deal.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 01, 2011 10:43 AM (tqwMN)

54 Does she mean "we" as in "we will bury you!"?

Posted by: Dang at August 01, 2011 10:43 AM (TXKVh)

55 Don't worry everyone.  We'll make up for any shortfall in revenues!  We promise.

Posted by: Apple's Surplus Cash Holding at August 01, 2011 10:43 AM (71LDo)

56 there really is no subterfuge here, She says you gave Them. (who's them?)  We got nothing

Posted by: willow at August 01, 2011 10:43 AM (h+qn8)

57 I could swallow the trouser trout just as good as Norah, but a big ass in this male dominated culture cost me the job.

Posted by: C*ntessa Brewer at August 01, 2011 10:43 AM (Y+DPZ)

58 I haven't read all the comments yet, but has anyone noticed that liberals hate America, want to bring it to its knees and then fundamentally transform it into a shiftless commie welfare state?

Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 01, 2011 10:44 AM (l04LX)

59

"So, objectively, we can rank the three values here in objective order, and we know this is the proper prioritization of these values because objective reporters, who are completely objective, have objectively ranked them thus:

1. First priority: the progressive agenda

2. Second priority: compromising for "the good of the country"

3. Third and last, absolute-bottom-level priority: the conservative moderate agenda (as defined by progressives: which is exactly the same as #1, only with flag-waving faux-patriotism)." The conservative agenda is entirely criminal and illegal; not fit for sane discussion.


FIFY

Posted by: The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at August 01, 2011 10:45 AM (jqHOY)

60 The White House gives the game away on their website - they have an article up where they're openly giddy about the deal.

I don't think they're thinking things far ahead...

One of the big sticking points of the deal is that the baseline stays as-is, meaning that the expiring Bush tax cuts go into effect on January 1, 2013, as of now.

You think Bambi and the Dems want to defend that particular tax in November 2012?  They'll be desperate to push it back at least one more year, which means either different taxes or new cuts that have to be negotiated with the House.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 01, 2011 10:46 AM (JqpkY)

61 Good point she uses the word "them" as well. So I am one of "them"? Fuck you twat.

Posted by: Mr Pink at August 01, 2011 10:46 AM (IE82C)

62 One of the big sticking points of the deal is that the baseline stays as-is, meaning that the expiring Bush tax cuts go into effect on January 1, 2013, as of now.

That should be "the Bush tax cuts expire, meaning higher taxes as of January 1, 2013, as of now".

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 01, 2011 10:47 AM (JqpkY)

63 Once again, #47 confuses "party" with "bagging".

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 01, 2011 10:48 AM (Qxe/p)

64 I too am a long time Tea Partier and have been sickened by the mean spirited cuts that help our nation's poor.  I am saddened by the sudden turn of our nation to evil,  heartless politics.  I will be voting for Obama several times in 2012.

Posted by: A very concerned former conservative at August 01, 2011 10:48 AM (TXKVh)

65 Sometimes I come diguised as things other than victory. Today, I've decided cloak myself in the guise of "defeat." Strange, I know.

Posted by: Chameleon Victory at August 01, 2011 10:49 AM (wnGI4)

66

Hmmm....the MFM says it has no liberal bias. This along with all of the other examples of the out and out left leaning bias must be a figment of our imagination

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 01, 2011 10:49 AM (1Jaio)

67

Well Norah, she is pretty but I think she got rolled by a bunch of liberal posers at Southern Alabama U.

Hell, I'd pretend I am totally into Che to get into her flowery little undies.


Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz at August 01, 2011 10:49 AM (tcSZb)

68

OT - Ready for more helpings of DOOM?  This piece is several days old, but:

KAHLILI: Iranian missiles could soon reach U.S. shores

I'm not so worried about the Iranians putting Iranian-flagged warships into the Atlantic Ocean, as in a straight-up fight the US Navy would completely destroy the much, much inferior Iranian Navy with relative ease, but I am worried about the non-flagged Iranian container ships loaded with possibly nuclear-armed ballastic missiles. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 01, 2011 10:49 AM (9hSKh)

69 Has Tapper been expelled from the W.H. press pool?

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at August 01, 2011 10:50 AM (w41GQ)

70  We won,  bitch.  Now shut the fuck up.

Posted by: Them at August 01, 2011 10:50 AM (TXKVh)

71 You think Bambi and the Dems want to defend that particular tax in November 2012?  They'll be desperate to push it back at least one more year, which means either different taxes or new cuts that have to be negotiated with the House.

Maybe.  Limbaugh thinks they'll wait until then and say that since the economy still sucks (which it will) after trying what those mean Tea Partiers wanted it's clearly time for massive new taxes and massive new spending (ie, another porkulus).

Posted by: Ian S. at August 01, 2011 10:50 AM (tqwMN)

72 what always disturbs me is Their lack of commitment to their cause, You'd think they feel so absolutely sure that  giving the GVT money to fulfill Their hope and dreams si the correct thing to do.

But it is never Their money. it's always a command but it always has a caveat of others money

so the disturbing part is Who rubs their noses in their Lies? anyone ?
 why not ?
When taxes come up as now. Why aren't they handing out forms  to Donate to the GVT. Why don't They lead their cause and do what they say is right?

share the load of course does not Mean them. It means steal others stuff so they can feel Gooooood about making others pay for their dreams to come true.

Posted by: willow at August 01, 2011 10:51 AM (h+qn8)

73

Specifically, CBSÂ’s Norah OÂ’Donnell peppered Carney with terse, accusatory questions about the lack of tax revenue (read: tax increases) in the debt ceiling deal.

Paulie Krugnuts was complaining about this too.  The problem is that it's a blatant lie.

The deal extends the debt ceiling through the end of 2012, but the debt "reduction" measures extend over a period of ten years.  Guess what expires in 2013?

That's right, the Bush tax rates and the Obama FICA cut.  Nor does total spending drop in any year of the deal.  In other words, this deal raises taxes and raises spending, and doesn't cut the national debt one single penny.  It's the height of absurdity that any Democrat should be upset by this deal at all.

Posted by: Red Rocks Rockin at August 01, 2011 10:51 AM (GAh/e)

74 Just remember; it's not extortion if they blow you first.

Posted by: Fritz at August 01, 2011 10:51 AM (p2IBw)

75 LOL, Vice-President Biden explains, he doesn't speak!

Posted by: Pissed off 26-year old with three part-time jobs at August 01, 2011 10:51 AM (e2VMT)

76 I'd "hate fuck" Norah.Just sayin'.

Posted by: steevy at August 01, 2011 10:52 AM (UR4hV)

77

I wonder if Ashleigh Banfield ever got into Norah's pants.

I'm guessing a resounding HELL YES.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz at August 01, 2011 10:53 AM (tcSZb)

78 What makes this even funnier is that she says "we" to Jay Carney, another liberal activists who posed as a journalist since he first came to Washington to report on the Clinton Administration, then with Time Magazine as its bearue fuck how that word is spelled chief in Washington, thus directing the way Time's coverage was shaped. This led to him being offered a job with the Obama admin, because obviously they recognized him as an objective (hahahahaaahhaaa) journalist who could be relied on to report things fair (hahahahaaaahahaha) and without bias (hahahahaaah).

Posted by: Mr Pink at August 01, 2011 10:54 AM (2E+aE)

79 I wonder if Ashleigh Banfield ever got into Norah's pants. I'm guessing a resounding HELL YES. Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz at August 01, 2011 02:53 PM (tcSZb) OK I'll bite. I don't get the reference? What am I missing?

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 01, 2011 10:54 AM (i6RpT)

80 The Left's story is always that they lost and lost big, despite the fact that they win constantly.  They think it helps people be more sympathetic toward them, if they constantly drumbeat the "We lost" refrain.  Otherwise, if they smugly admit they got just what they wanted, the voters might take a closer look at them, and the Left cannot survive close scrutiny.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 01, 2011 10:55 AM (/zYUh)

81 In the utopian fantasy world I choose to live in there is a conservative reporter in the press corps doing this to a Republican president.

Posted by: Bob Saget, teabagging debt zombies from Mordor at August 01, 2011 10:55 AM (F/4zf)

82 62 I haven't read all the comments yet, but has anyone noticed that liberals hate America, want to bring it to its knees and then fundamentally transform it into a shiftless commie welfare state?
Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 01, 2011 02:44 PM

That's why they tell you that Europeans are riotously  happy, take longer vacations, live happily with less, are thinner, read leftist newspapers more, and dutifully board their trains.

They don't tell you that Europe is going tits up faster than we are

Posted by: C*ntessa Brewer at August 01, 2011 10:56 AM (Y+DPZ)

83

'Well Norah, she is pretty but I think she got rolled by a bunch of liberal posers at Southern Alabama U.

Hell, I'd pretend I am totally into Che to get into her flowery little undies.'

Yep, be there, done that!

Posted by: Pissed off 26-year old with three part-time jobs at August 01, 2011 10:56 AM (e2VMT)

84 Well, Ed Henry was certainly getting a good chuckle out it.

Posted by: As IF... at August 01, 2011 10:57 AM (piMMO)

85 I say we double the defense budget and then default on all the debt and say " Yeah, and what are you gonna do about it"?

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 01, 2011 10:58 AM (i6RpT)

86 I could have gotten Norah's job too, but let's just say our "tastes" are different

Posted by: Rachel Maddow at August 01, 2011 10:58 AM (Y+DPZ)

87 we have heard the MFM scream at the tops of their lungs that conservatives must compromise their principles away, and be less willing to fight for their agenda, because compromise trumps conservative values. But what's Norah O'Donnell's implication here? Liberals and liberals alone should have fought harder for their agenda. Well, meh. Norah would merely whine that only liberals have compromised here because they got nothing they wanted. That's the perception they want to sell, nothing new here. Norah doesn't see anything but compromise on the liberal side. Never mind that Dick gets trillions to spend, plus a super-duper-hero-committee gimmick to raise taxes by stealth through elimination of deductions or fudging the baseline numbers. At any rate, Norah and Dick will return down the road when the superfriends committee must deliver, and the economy will still be in the porta-potty... so they will say duplicitously "we tried it your way, we've cut unprecedented amounts from federal spending, it's time for the wealthy to pay their fair share and get the government back to helping our citizens."

Posted by: George Orwell at August 01, 2011 10:58 AM (AZGON)

88 Shannon Breen is real cute. FOX really has some "Talented" women

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 01, 2011 11:00 AM (i6RpT)

89

My shrink is a liberal.  He knows I'm a conservative.  We can still talk about stuff, even political stuff.  Today he asked me, with some incredulity why Republican Reps absolutely refused to compromise and raise some taxes or close some loopholes.  He evidenced that the rates were higher under Clinton and unemployment was low, whereas rates were low at the end of Bush 43 and unemployment was going up.  He ran out the canards of corporations sitting on tons of cash (as if that entitles the government to some of it) and depreciation schedules for corporate jets.  I held my tongue.

Rather than shoot down his premises with refutations based in historical and economic reality, I simply said that the TEA party Congressmen ran on a promise of not raising taxes, period; The House is Republican because of the TEA movement;  Therefore, the House will honor that promise as long as those reps are principled and keep their promise.

But even though he's an old lib from greater Boston with money to burn, he can't figure out why taxing the rich and raking businesses further over the coals isn't the simple solution.

He did however volunteer that entitlements will have to be "tweaked"... he suggested a lower limit to Medicare and SS of age 67.

Psychology is a racket run by liberals.  Just prescribe me my damn meds and stop trying to make excuses for everything.

Posted by: Truman North at August 01, 2011 11:01 AM (K2wpv)

90 Hi, I'm one of the original Tea Party members.

I have to be honest, this bill goes too far. The cuts are draconian. And I'm afraid that voters in 2012 will remember how the Republicans kept the economy hostage. Sorry, but it's true.

Ha!! You almost sent me off on a troll-concern rant, Soothsayer.

Posted by: As IF... at August 01, 2011 11:01 AM (piMMO)

91 uh, concern-troll, damnit

Posted by: As IF... at August 01, 2011 11:01 AM (piMMO)

92 There is an argument about whether that "we" is as telling as it seems -- some defend Norah O'Donnell, claiming at this part of her question, she was asking a question from the point of view of the deal's progressive critics, and not in her own voice, necessarily.

From whatever point of view she may have been asking the question, she is to remain an unbiased, objective onlooker to events. Making an inclusive we defines an "our side" and "their side" and is completely inappropriate unless "our side" happens to be the station, or the media in general. The media should *not* be making "we" claims as a voice of the people, though they frequently do.

This use of the inclusive "we" implies either that she and others in the "we" group are personally on the side of the Democrats, which is open admission to a lack of objectivity; or, she is claiming to as the 4th estate represent the "people" and that the "people" were on the side of the Democrats, which is not only highly biased but wildly inaccurate.

Either way it is an admission of a lack of objectivity in this debate; and likely as a news reporter in general.

Once in a while the mask slips down. . .

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at August 01, 2011 11:02 AM (0q2P7)

93

84 The Left's story is always that they lost and lost big, despite the fact that they win constantly.  They think it helps people be more sympathetic toward them fundraising, if they constantly drumbeat the "We lost" refrain.

Slight mod.

Posted by: The Schwalbe : © at August 01, 2011 11:03 AM (UU0OF)

94 I admit it.I have pretended to be a lib to get into the panties of dumb (but hot) lefty twits.I'm not proud of it.

Posted by: steevy at August 01, 2011 11:04 AM (UR4hV)

95 I prefer when Norah dresses in that hideous fatsuit and goes by her politically inextricable alternate identity, "Rosie".

Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 01, 2011 11:07 AM (ws24P)

96 Hi, I'm one of the original Tea Party members.

I have to be honest, this bill goes too far. The cuts are draconian. And I'm afraid that voters in 2012 will remember how the Republicans kept the economy hostage. Sorry, but it's true.

Really long time Tea Partier? Concerned we're going to far? The Taxed Enough Already crowd. Just how did you think we would get debt under control with a 1.5T deficit without raising taxes Mr. Taxed Enough Already? Happy thoughts? You are just deeply concerned right?

You know, the Curve Ball was invented in 1870. No one is even surprised to see one any more.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at August 01, 2011 11:08 AM (0q2P7)

97 But what's Norah O'Donnell's implication here? Liberals and liberals alone should have fought harder for their agenda.

Yeah, their agenda that she is 100% supportive of.


Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at August 01, 2011 11:09 AM (1rHeD)

98 99 I admit it.I have pretended to be a lib to get into the panties of dumb (but hot) lefty twits.I'm not proud of it.

Posted by: steevy at August 01, 2011 03:04 PM (UR4hV)

Next time yell out "Reagan was our greatest president" during climax.

Posted by: buzzion at August 01, 2011 11:09 AM (oVQFe)

99

Oh make no mistake this skankmuffin feels jilted and jizzed on and she wants Bambi and his minions to know it.

  “You gave them everything they wanted and we got nothing.”

If this doesn't speak to the liberal mindset, I don't know what does. 

Posted by: dananjcon at August 01, 2011 11:10 AM (8ieXv)

100 I'm calling foul. Not sure if anyone has pointed it out yet, but the quote is incorrect.

The preface "Some Democrats are saying, ...." has been left out.  Completely changes the context and makes this a non-story.

Not that I don't believe she is thinking this, but she didn't say it.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 01, 2011 11:14 AM (+irH7)

101 93 Shannon Breen is real cute. FOX really has some "Talented" women   *sighs*.  I read "Shannon Breen" as "Shannon Tweed". Phonetically they are similar enough, no?  Is there a problem with me?   Next time yell out "Reagan was our greatest president" during climax.

And hang on for as long as you can afterwards.  I'd suggest honing in on your "bucking" skills by visiting a local cowboy bar and riding the bull thingy several times. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 01, 2011 11:15 AM (9hSKh)

102 I wonder if Ashleigh Banfield ever got into Norah's pants.

I'm guessing a resounding HELL YES.

That's what SHE said.

Posted by: Ashleigh Banfield at August 01, 2011 11:15 AM (MMC8r)

103

I think soothsayer is toyin w/ya's btw.

 

Posted by: dananjcon at August 01, 2011 11:17 AM (8ieXv)

104 This scrunt works for CBS now. You can tell by the way it says "CBS's Norah OÂ’Donnell" in the quote you grabbed.

Posted by: Pablo at August 01, 2011 11:23 AM (1fuCG)

105 I could have gotten Norah's job too, but let's just say our "tastes" are different

Posted by: Rachel Maddow at August 01, 2011 02:58 PM (Y+DPZ)

With those recent Harry Potter look photos, I'm thinking you taste like extremely soaked cat litter.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 01, 2011 11:23 AM (zsvKP)

106 Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 01, 2011 03:15 PM (9hSKh)

For someone with so little tolerance for decadence you sure do have a one-track mind when it comes to soft-core queen Shannon Tweed.

Just don't start up on a poetry jag about Ms. Tweed the way Jack did about Suzanne Sena.

Posted by: As IF... at August 01, 2011 11:23 AM (piMMO)

107 Just remember it's only EVIL Fox News that has a political bias all of the other networks are right down the middle of the road. Not an once of bias in them

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 01, 2011 11:25 AM (1Jaio)

108 Just read some people were chanting and pushing the Capitol Police in the Republican side of the gallery.

Posted by: 80sBaby at August 01, 2011 11:30 AM (o2lIv)

109 80's wow, community organizing  goes mainstream i guess

Posted by: willow at August 01, 2011 11:38 AM (h+qn8)

110 22 arrested

Posted by: 80sBaby at August 01, 2011 11:41 AM (o2lIv)

111 Next time yell out "Reagan was our greatest president" during climax.

Ah, the Laredo Bull Ride. 

Posted by: toby928™ at August 01, 2011 12:19 PM (GTbGH)

112

I LOVE THE NAME ODONNEL!

 

YOU GOT NORAH, ROSIE AND *SWOON* LAWRENCE (YUM)!

 

IM CHANGING MY NAME TO ODONNEL!

Posted by: KayInMaine at August 01, 2011 12:48 PM (g7xmg)

113 I'm calling foul. Not sure if anyone has pointed it out yet, but the quote is incorrect.

The preface "Some Democrats are saying, ...." has been left out. Completely changes the context and makes this a non-story.

Not that I don't believe she is thinking this, but she didn't say it.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 01, 2011 03:14 PM

Hmmm...well she did say it.  She didn't say this... "Some Democrats are saying, and I quote..."   Or she could have said "Some Democrats are saying they..."  No, she used the inclusive "we."  Pretty simple really, she made a slip or is an idiot or both.

Posted by: Deanna at August 01, 2011 12:53 PM (H7MAP)

114 #118 KayInMaine is absolutely hilarious. She kind of reminds me of ol' B1FF from the early days of teh internet.

Inimitatable.


Posted by: OregonMuse at August 01, 2011 01:13 PM (zsjtg)

115 Is she truly pretty? those pounds of make-up must be covering up something!

Posted by: Katy Perry at August 01, 2011 01:27 PM (XgePz)

116

Beauty fades but stupid lingers.

 

Ah yes indeed.  And when I look at the wreck of the beauty queen that was Nora O'Donnell, I'm reminded--with a wry smile--of an incident that took place in student politics nigh on 50 years ago--just as feminism was beginning to rear its head.

Seems as if a very good looking young woman was running fot Student Body President at one of the California State University campuses.    A fellow who led a particular student faction that supported another (male) candidate for the post put out a newsletter to his faction which said, in part, "She's good for a weekend boys, but being student body president is an all week long job."

In those more innocent days it was possible for a student politico to say that sort of thing without  really knowing that a shit storm was soon to follow.

Well the shit storm did happen; still the lady lost and the male candidate wor and all was right with the world. 

Now what can we say about Queen Nora?  Too dumb to hunt with the pack?

 

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