1 He wasn't going to get much of a sentence anyway.

2 Obama is a stuttering clusterf**k of a miserable failure.

3 He's probably pissed he's not going to Bastoy Island.

4 All postmodern Templars pull the insane thingy when caught. Everyone knows that. Shoosh - silly Norwegians.

5 Can they keep in the asylum for life as opposed to their 20? year limit for jail? This might be the best justice they can get with their funky rules.

6 They really just need to shoot the SOB and be done with it.

7 Norwegian prisons are more like college campuses anyway.  If you are going to commit murder, Norway is the place to do it.

8 Eh, it's just a matter of which cushy place he ended up being locked away in for a few years anyway.

Truly, the Norgs can't bear the idea that one of their own could do this, so they have to brand him crazy.

9 Is he pinin' for the fjords?

10

Here we have the legal conundrum of our time: in order to have committed such a crime with so many casualties and so much tragedy, especially against defenseless children, one would have to be insane.

11

I don't know anything about Norweigan law, but let me speculate as if I did.

 

It's my understand that after the shooting, news outlets reported that the maximum sentence in Norway was 22 years.

So I'm guessing the Norweigan government was looking for a way to keep him imprisoned for life and by declaring him insane, they found a way to do so.

I'm hoping that the answer, but given these European countries, it's entirely possible the dude will be out in 5 years

12

He wasn't going to get much of a sentence anyway.

I thought I read somewhere that the maximum he could get over there was something like 22 years, because life without parole is cruel and unusual dontchaknow.

13 Insane in the Membrane

14 You know what's insane? The fact that this guy's been judged insane. SWIDT?

15 Norwegian Aryan Gunman Judged Insane Norway also decides the Nobel Peace Prizes.

16 At least it wasn't homicidal rampaging murder-murder.

17 If he had been here in SC he would have got the death sentence.

18

Norway gets the coveted Poo-Tattoo award.

 

19 Criminally Insane

20 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

21 If he had been here in SC he would have got the death sentence. gotten maybe two rounds off before someone shot his crazy ass dead.

22 Well of course he's crazy.  No one sane would have killed 70 something people and injured however-many more.

23 Eh. My theory is that homicidal insanity can be treated by handing the killer an anchor and inviting him to explore the bottom of the North Sea. I'll happily fly to Oslo and explicate my reasoning for them. For a fee, of course.

24

I thought I read somewhere that the maximum he could get over there was something like 22 years, because life without parole is cruel and unusual dontchaknow.

Heaven forfend, such a sentence is much more cruel and unusual than having your young, innocent life snuffed out before it's time.

25

He's clearly a psychopath, but that doesn't mean he didn't know what he was doing was wrong. He knew he was commiting murder, and should face criminal charges. Duh!

26 I won't know what to think about this until Miley Cyrus writes a song about it.

27 Can we institute the Robert Heinlein standard?  Either he can be cured, in which case "how could he live with him self?" or he can't, in which case "Well, we shoot mad dogs, don't we?"

28 Didn't he set off a bomb to distract authorities? Doesn't that kind of premeditation put paid to the whole "insane" idea? Nevermind, it's Norway.

29
Insane, my ass.

They didn't want this guy going on trial because they're afraid he'd offend Muslims.

30 The run-amok liberalism in Europe can't stand up to this daylight. Why do they let their so-called ruling class dictate these loose criminal rules? That's the sad state of human nature, the lazy class will give up everything to stay on the dole, to have that little food pellet pop out into their awaiting maws.

31 I suggest dropping him on an isolated tropical island surrounded by shark infested waters.








Did I mention the island is infested with flesh eating ants?

32
This Insanity judgment is to silence him, I believe.

33 Am I Going Insane (Radio)

34 He'll be judged cured of his mental "dysfunction" within three years in order to be with his beloved nurse bride that he married within a year after being committed.  It'll be a story that touches every scandi's heart.

35

I apologize in advance to all the lawyer-type Morons here, but I'm firmly convinced that the move to eliminate the death penalty was made up by the lawyers groups to insure job security for their members, and to increase their market share. Dead killers are notorious for not paying their bills.

It damned sure has nothing to do with justice.

36 Why do they let their so-called ruling class dictate these loose criminal rules?

Because, contrary to the beliefs of people like GW Bush, the natural human condition is not to call for Freedom, but for security.  Failing actually security, far too many are willing to accept it's pale substitute: willful ignorance.

37 I'm fairly certain this prick could find gainful employment in Syria.

38
Think about it.

He's already labeled an extreme right winger. So he has already served a political purpose, and now they're done with him. Just put him away and close the case.

39 29
Insane, my ass.

They didn't want this guy going on trial because they're afraid he'd offend Muslims.
  That and the entire squish which is Norway. Just sayin. A society that will not defend itself is not worth defending. Shoot away crazy Templars. Worst you'll get is three hots and cot for life and socialized healthcare.

40 Well of course he's crazy.  No one sane would have killed 70 something people and injured however-many more.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 29, 2011 04:08 PM (8y9MW)

Serious question: Where does the line between being insane and being an asshole exist?

For example: Jeffrey Dahmer was crazy, Timothy McVeigh was an asshole.

I'm clearly not a legal expert.

41 32 This Insanity judgment is to silence him, I believe. Posted by: Soothsayer at November 29, 2011 04:11 PM (sqkOB) Good point. No trial = no testimony. Maybe they fearing the roiling Norwegian masses would rise up?

42  It'll be a story that touches every scandi's heart.

They have hearts?

43 My theory is that homicidal insanity can be treated by handing the killer an anchor and inviting him to explore the bottom of the North Sea.

Closely matches mine.  I would put him into General Population at the nearest federal pen, and see how long he lasts.  Over./under is usually three days. 

Until he has an accident. 
Like slipping and hitting his head on the toilet. 
17 times.

44 Norway declares the devil made him do it.

45 Well of course he's crazy.  No one sane would have killed 70 something people and injured however-many more.

This sounds like Herschel on The Walking Dead.

46
Similarly, I believe, the same thing is being done with Jared Loughner.

Loughner is serving his purpose. The Democrats and media created the false narrative; the last thing they want is for Loughner to open his mouth and destroy the narrative.

47 Serious question: Where does the line between being insane and being an asshole exist?

I'll field this one.

48

Posted by: CUS at November 29, 2011 04:13 PM (84pE9)

I'm a proponent of prison justice as well.

49 42

"Worst case of suicide we ever saw."

50
Also: Nadil Hassan

This muthafucka shoulda been tried and convicted and executed already. Why not?

Because his defense and testimony would prove embarrassing to the US Army and their idiotic efforts for diversity.

Plus, they want people to forget that the Muslim Menace exists.

51 Yeah, I'm not so sure about this "silence him" theory. I'm sticking to the Norway's just a bunch of twats angle.

52 FWIR, being a sociopath isn't a protected type of insanity.

53 Yeah, I'm not so sure about this "silence him" theory. I'm sticking to the Norway's just a bunch of twats angle.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 29, 2011 04:17 PM (4Kaza)

 

Not just twats, but purposely stupid twats. 

54 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

55 Serious question: Where does the line between being insane and being an asshole exist?

Although there are differences between the states,the basic rule is that you have to have a mental disease or defect; i.e., a diagnosable condition, and because of that disease or defect you either did not know the nature of your acts;. i.e., you thought that you were killing a vampire instead of a human being, or you didn't know what you were doing was wrong; i.e., you didn't understand that other people would think that what you were doing was wrong.

56 It's a mother thing.

57

I apologize in advance to all the lawyer-type Morons here, but I'm firmly convinced that the move to eliminate the death penalty was made up by the lawyers groups to insure job security for their members, and to increase their market share. Dead killers are notorious for not paying their bills.

I would guess that most murderers are indigent so the state  taxpayers end up footing the bill for their defense.

I think the push to eliminate the death penalty comes from the "society made him do it" branch of modern thought. Western Europe already shows that eliminating the death penalty means that life without parole will be eliminated sometime thereafter. Eventually it leads you to a situation in which a man can murder 69 people and face a maximum of 22 years.

I really wish that all liberals could be placed into their own society and forced to live by their batty laws so that they would be the only ones who'd have to suffer from their insanity.

58 Although there are differences between the states,the basic rule is that you have to have a mental disease or defect; i.e., a diagnosable condition, and because of that disease or defect you either did not know the nature of your acts;. i.e., you thought that you were killing a vampire instead of a human being, or you didn't know what you were doing was wrong; i.e., you didn't understand that other people would think that what you were doing was wrong.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 29, 2011 04:22 PM (Hx5uv)

 

Hmmmm. 

59

For example: Jeffrey Dahmer was crazy, Timothy McVeigh was an asshole.

I'm clearly not a legal expert.

Posted by: ErikW at November 29, 2011 04:13 PM (RtR8a)

Dahmer wasnt insane by the legal definition.  He got beaten to death in a regular prison. 

60
Yeah, I'm not so sure about this "silence him" theory. I'm sticking to the Norway's just a bunch of twats angle.







In just about any other European country, I'd be right there with you. But isn't Norway supposed to be the modern Joo-hater European headquarters, complete with a large, violent Muslim minority that commits around 80-90% of the country's rapes and murders? I'm thinking there's a pretty good case to be made for the conspiracy theory here.

61 The whole purpose is to discredit anyone remotely disgruntled with the system.  It's right out of the USSR.

62

I really wish that all liberals could be placed into their own society and forced to live by their batty laws so that they would be the only ones who'd have to suffer from their insanity.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at November 29, 2011 04:22 PM (JxMoP)

 

I think they've already tried that in the ole' CCCP.  Didn't work out so well I've heard.

63 Norway is an asylum. Of course they reason that by killing Aryan youth, Norway is preserved from Muslims.

64 In just about any other European country, I'd be right there with you. But isn't Norway supposed to be the modern Joo-hater European headquarters, complete with a large, violent Muslim minority that commits around 80-90% of the country's rapes and murders? I'm thinking there's a pretty good case to be made for the conspiracy theory here.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 29, 2011 04:25 PM (G+B5p)

 

There are no such things as conspiracies.  Ace said so.

65

I'm betting that the more people you kill, the more likely Norway is to find that it would be inhumane to make you face justice.

 

The incentives are bizarrely perverse.

 

If I want to bump somebody off, I should make sure to do it as part of a rampage where I off a bunch of bystanders too.

66 An insane sentence of insanity for an unquestionably insane mass-murderer, levied by the unquestionably insane asylum society that Norway has become. Fitting, really. And sad, and disgusting...

67

>>> They really need to tighten up that definition.

The simple minded, "wishcasting" view of Leftists is that humans are, by their nature, good.  Evil does not exist. 

When someone carries out an evil, he must be defective somehow, and can, ideally, be fixed.

68

If I want to bump somebody off, I should make sure to do it as part of a rampage where I off a bunch of bystanders too.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at November 29, 2011 04:30 PM (epBek)

 

Yes.  But you better brush up on your marksmanship.  Fleeing pedestrians are difficult targets.

69 A nutcase killed 77, wounded 150.

Imagine what an actual sane but evil person could do.

70 Fleeing pedestrians are difficult targets.

How can you shoot women?  Or children?
Easy! Ya just don't lead 'em so much! Ain't war hell?

71 61 The whole purpose is to discredit anyone remotely disgruntled with the system.  It's right out of the USSR.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 29, 2011 04:25 PM (dZ756)

Succinct and correct.

72 Why do they need to "tighten it up"?  I think where tightening up needs to be is putting schizophrenics away or under constant supervision for life ahead of the crimes or other destructive acts they commit as a result of delusion.

 Didn't know right from wrong is what the law turns on here, but it really isn't an accurate definition of insanity.  Theirs is more accurate.  The truth is he really does have a brain disease that affects ego (for lack of a better word for a sense of one's proper place and purpose whether in  history or among people in general -  and thought.   If he weren't schizophrenic all those people he  shot down would be alive.  He will never have lasting insight into his crime.

73 Whoever would question the government's policy of Muslim immigration must be crazy.Deliberately planning the slaughter of innocent people in retaliation for that policy-- well that just proves our point.

74 29
Insane, my ass.

They didn't want this guy going on trial because they're afraid he'd offend Muslims.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 29, 2011 04:10 PM (sqkOB)

This is what happens when you don't have a death penalty or relaxed prison sentences.  You declare them insane so they don't have to have a proper trial and you can lock them away forever.

They also like "shot while trying to escape" or "killed by other prisoners".

75 F*cking icebacks. Berkowitz was insane.  This guy is an evil d*ckbag.  And yeah they probably don't want him spouting off in public.  I agree, when you take the death penalty off the table, next comes life in prison etc. etc.

Eh, maybe they're just trying to lock him up forever the only way their system can. Still, they should send him off to look for the lost Templar fleet in a concrete boat.

76

>>"I'm betting that the more people you kill, the more likely Norway is to find that it would be inhumane to make you face justice. The incentives are bizarrely perverse."

Breivik made it quite clear in his 1500 page  "manifesto" that he was prepared to go out himself in a hail of police gunfire after he killed his intended targets should it turn out that way.  If not, then he knew he'd face trial and be sentenced to serve time in the Norwegian penal system..  And why would he fear that? Take a look at online photos of their new Halden prison, proudly billed as one of the world's most "progressive" correctional facilities, where some of the most hardened criminals, including murderers and rapists, are kept. Excerpts from some news report descriptions of the place: 

"The jail is spread over 75 acres of woodland just outside Oslo with cells that rival well-appointed college dorm rooms, with their flat-screen TVs and minifridges. Designers chose long vertical windows for the rooms because they let in more sunlight. There are no bars. Every 10 to 12 cells share a living room and kitchen. With their stainless-steel countertops, wraparound sofas and birch-colored coffee tables, they resemble Ikea showrooms. Facilities include a sound studio, jogging trails and a two-bedroom house separate from the main facility where convicts can stay with their families during overnight visits.  There is even a "kitchen laboratory" where inmates can take specialist cooking courses.

"Halden's greatest asset, though, may be the strong relationship between staff and inmates. Prison guards don't carry guns--that creates unnecessary intimidation and social distance--and they routinely eat meals and play sports with the inmates."

 

You get the picture.

Insane?  In his own twisted way Breivik looks shrewder thsn the entire Norwegian leftist establishment with each passing day.

 

77 61 The whole purpose is to discredit anyone remotely disgruntled with the system.  It's right out of the USSR.

Yeah, that. (I think I read it at Auster first.) If you kill a liberal, you're a criminal. If you kill him because he's a liberal, you're nuts. The effect of the deed is the same. The difference is that Norway has made a pathological condition out of Rightist thought.

It won't be a crime in this brave new world to post a rant at some "counterjihad" blog. But medical professionals will want a word with you. For your own good, of course.

Proper norsemen would have just made a blood-eagle out of Breivik's back and then gone out drinking. That strikes me as a good deal less creepy than what happened here.

78 "Islam versus Europe" called it on whether Breivik was a loser or even a loner. Breivik, like John Brown, knew exactly what he was doing.

79 I agree.  Insane is properly applied to all the fools on this blog and so many others who couldn't believe it was a "Nordic Christian" and not a "Muzzie".

80 I am not clear if I totally understand the full thought pattern behind this.

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83 Personally I think the Norwegian Socialists and media (but I repeat myself) would love to put him on trial, to smear all anti-Jihad, anti-Islamists by association. They've already tried to do this.

HOWEVER, if it comes out in trial, the guy is hearing voices in his head, getting visions, well that looks very bad for them. VERY BAD.

You can be crazy, hear voices, and still know what you are doing is wrong: Mark David Chapman, John Hinckley Jr., David Berkowitz (Son of Sam), etc. Jared Lee Loughner is another example. They were all crazy, and knew what they were doing was wrong, but did it anyway. You can hear your neighbors dog giving you instructions to kill, and still know its wrong anyway. But juries shy away from convicting guys like this (it is almost always guys).

Given that every political advantage accrues to the ruling Socialists to put this guy on trial, and just obliterate any opposition to full on Islamization, I'd guess this guy A. heard voices, heard visions, and so on; and B. knew it was wrong but did it anyway. There are a LOT of people running around, mentally ill, often severely, who can still function at a higher level than your average gang-banger, but are dangerous like dynamite (Loughner, Berkowitz, come to mind). Only a guess but that's my guess.

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