October 21, 2011
— andy Haven't seen hide nor hair of the head Ewok today. OWS presents such a target-rich environment for hobos that he may be overwhelmed.
Here are a couple of interesting GOP 2012 presidential race tidbits:
Michele Bachmann paid New Hampshire staffers quit en masse
... Michele Bachmann's entire paid campaign team - roughly a half-dozen staffers - in New Hampshire has quit out of frustration with the campaign.
That's gonna leave a mark.
@THEHermanCain "if you're at or below the poverty level, your plan isn't 999, it's 909."
Rumors are the Rick Perry will counter with a plan called "five-five-five dollar footlong."
So now what are we talking about?
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No, my plan will be 9-9-9-9. The extra 9 is to pay for all the new government mandates. Tardisil insurance for everyone!
Posted by: Romney Perry at October 21, 2011 08:01 AM (ggRof)
Maybe that's why she was wearing that military uniform in the last debate. Trying to marshall her forces.
I don't understand how she and Santorum are still in the race anyway. They're don't really have any money. However, as long as there are free debates they will probably stick around.
The sooner they drop out the better.
Posted by: Ben at October 21, 2011 08:03 AM (wuv1c)
One of the staffers mothers came up to Bachmann, crying hysterically and told her that the staff quit becuz Perry injected them all with tardrasil while they were asleep.
Posted by: Elize Nayden at October 21, 2011 08:04 AM (i4gLS)
Posted by: Rick Perry at October 21, 2011 08:04 AM (L8TIZ)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at October 21, 2011 08:04 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Breaker19 at October 21, 2011 08:04 AM (ze29X)
It's been darkly fun to watch Bachmann and now Cain implode.
Hey, if we can't get decent or even mediocre candidates, we may as well get some entertainment out of them, right?
(We are so boned.)
Posted by: Lance McCormick at October 21, 2011 08:05 AM (zgHLA)
Posted by: DGAS at October 21, 2011 08:05 AM (EL+OC)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at October 21, 2011 08:05 AM (8y9MW)
How do you exempt people from the sales tax? Does every merchant have to do an income verification on every transaction? Or say they get an exemption card. How do you stop me from bringing my down and out friend along every time I go shopping, so I can get 9% off every purchase? And of course I'll cut him in on the action.
If you allow some people to be exempt, pretty soon everyone will be exempt one way or the other. And there goes your brave new tax plan down the drain.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 21, 2011 08:05 AM (/n3lt)
Posted by: Shiggz undecided - weighing pros-cons-balls at October 21, 2011 08:05 AM (I9fXA)
I heard Perry was unveiling the 5000-20000000-50000 plan - 5000 dollars from Merck, 20000000 new illegal immigrants amnesties, and 50000 new Mexican trucks on the Trans-Texas corridor.
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at October 21, 2011 08:06 AM (+inic)
Posted by: Solomon Grundy at October 21, 2011 08:06 AM (usXZy)
Cain's imploding? News to me. Have you seen his IA polling? He's looking good. Makes me wonder why he's getting a pass on making a lot of gaffetastic comments.
Posted by: lu at October 21, 2011 08:06 AM (pLTLS)
I might die laughing if he actually said that at some point.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at October 21, 2011 08:07 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at October 21, 2011 08:07 AM (i9cTu)
That plan is between me and my wife.
Posted by: Rick Perry at October 21, 2011 08:07 AM (L8TIZ)
I'm unveiling the "111!1-11!111!-eleventy11!!1" plan!
Posted by: Ron Paul's Echo Chamberpot at October 21, 2011 08:08 AM (+inic)
I can't figure out if Bachman is actually attractive or not. She's one of those kinds of women that looks attractive one minute and scary the next.
Palin, on the other hand, looks great all the time.
The above was not meant to be polical statements. I'm just being a guy.
Posted by: Havedash at October 21, 2011 08:08 AM (sFD5n)
Assuming it's the sales tax he's talking about (dunno) they claim it's done with a "prebate." Which, best I can understand, is code for "government hand out."
But he could be talking about the income tax, there.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at October 21, 2011 08:08 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at October 21, 2011 08:08 AM (MyByM)
Posted by: I am Rick Perry and I paid for this message at October 21, 2011 08:09 AM (SSm72)
Posted by: Y-not at October 21, 2011 08:09 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: t-bird at October 21, 2011 08:09 AM (FcR7P)
Good point, and you would be !shocked to see how many people who live in apartments in the city limits and claim the agricultural exemption around here.
Posted by: Bob Saget at October 21, 2011 08:10 AM (SDkq3)
Posted by: Michelle Bachman at October 21, 2011 08:10 AM (136wp)
Posted by: People's Security Committee, Occupy Berkeley at October 21, 2011 08:11 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: I am Rick Perry and I paid for this message at October 21, 2011 12:09 PM (SSm72)
How do we know you're NOT Sarah Palin?
Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 21, 2011 08:11 AM (136wp)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at October 21, 2011 08:12 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Y-not at October 21, 2011 12:09 PM (5H6zj)
Do farmers doin the corn to ethanol deed qualify?
Posted by: Red Shirt at October 21, 2011 08:12 AM (FIDMq)
Posted by: Dave at October 21, 2011 08:12 AM (Xm1aB)
Allons enfants de la patrie, le jour de gloire est arrivee.
Posted by: Y-not from memory at October 21, 2011 08:13 AM (5H6zj)
Wasn't there something about rebates, Tom? The more scrutiny 9-9-9 gets, the more and more complex and ridiculous it is.
The point-- or so I thought-- was a simple, easy to remember, easy to implement system with no loopholes to exploit, the theory being that the mind-numbingness of the Byzantine tax code we now have hinders growth to a large extent.
Each time it's tweaked (or more details come out, whichever) to be "more fair" or whatever, it loses a piece of that charm. Now it looks like crap.
How much of our GDP is eaten up by income tax compliance and enforcement? That's a whole industry that basically pruduces nothing of value. Streamline it so anyone can do their taxes in thrity minutes or less, and we should get a lot of growth, and thus more (or at least equal) revenue, even at lower rates.
Each loophole, exemption, and credit is there to benefit someone and the end result benefits no one-- except those who don't pay anything.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at October 21, 2011 08:13 AM (zgHLA)
Posted by: kansas at October 21, 2011 08:13 AM (mka2b)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at October 21, 2011 08:14 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 21, 2011 08:14 AM (xOy1A)
You don't, you just don't tax necessities, like food, and prostitutes.
Posted by: Dr Spank at October 21, 2011 08:14 AM (L8TIZ)
Romney has beaucoup polling data telling him that this is what 'independents' want.
( that's all I got )
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, at October 21, 2011 08:14 AM (UqKQV)
Posted by: Elize Nayden at October 21, 2011 08:14 AM (i4gLS)
Posted by: t-bird at October 21, 2011 08:14 AM (FcR7P)
Great, a different progressive version of the same crap we have now, EXCEPT we have a VAT. F* that.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at October 21, 2011 08:14 AM (0q2P7)
Now this is just shitty: http://tinyurl.com/3t87uv3
But the dems like them. I guess that in the end, thatÂ’s all that really matters. Heh, heh, heh.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at October 21, 2011 08:14 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Sheriff F'n Joe Biden at October 21, 2011 08:15 AM (u/RSM)
Posted by: MDH3 at October 21, 2011 08:16 AM (4u+LN)
Posted by: James Loughner at October 21, 2011 08:16 AM (e8kgV)
Well, if they're going en masse, they're not frustrated at campaigning, they're frustrated at her campaign. That is, they're saying, "You're not a serious candidate, and we're not working on a joke of a campaign. I'd campaign with Bozo the Clown before I'd work for you again."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at October 21, 2011 08:16 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Dave at October 21, 2011 08:16 AM (Xm1aB)
If they go with just my answers, Perry will win hands down.
I gave Obama the lowest rating possible. Unfortunately there was no SCOAMF option.
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick getyourpawsofoffmeyoudamndirtyape Perry at October 21, 2011 08:16 AM (K7Gb2)
----
OTOH, I agree on a gut level. OTOH, they're professionals, like anyone else. I know I've left jobs where I was not being given what I needed (not salary, but in terms of management etc) to do my job well. So maybe that's it.
Speaking of staffing, what's Newt's situation? Any evidence he's gearing up now that he's the second-look candidate?
Posted by: Y-not from memory at October 21, 2011 08:17 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Vic at October 21, 2011 08:17 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: t-bird at October 21, 2011 08:17 AM (FcR7P)
Cain's imploding? News to me. Have you seen his IA polling? He's looking good. Makes me wonder why he's getting a pass on making a lot of gaffetastic comments.
Posted by: lu at October 21, 2011 12:06 PM (pLTLS)
Well, okay. But he seems to be way behind in the money and staffing categories. Iowa is one thing. Once the season gets going, you can't be everywhere at once, and that's when money and ads matter. I presume his gaffes will catch up to him, unless he shapes up pretty fast.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at October 21, 2011 08:17 AM (zgHLA)
Posted by: Bank of US America Sucks! at October 21, 2011 08:17 AM (+lsX1)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 21, 2011 08:18 AM (ieDPL)
Posted by: Vic at October 21, 2011 08:18 AM (YdQQY)
yes its bad, the dollar is reaching new lows (worth less), which means it take more dollars to purchase a share. Plus the fed is purchasing MBS again to prop up banks. Priced versus gold and silver the market is down.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 21, 2011 08:18 AM (xOy1A)
Posted by: Dave at October 21, 2011 08:19 AM (Xm1aB)
It is just a salute. It was commonly done in U.S. schools in the early 20th century during the Pledge of Allegiance (to the flag of the United States). They switched to the hand-on-the-heart salute during the 30's and 40's.
Posted by: RioBravo at October 21, 2011 08:19 AM (eEfYn)
Nor am I. Politicians don't have the guts for a truly flat tax. So they set up a progressive income tax with fewer brackets, and call it a "flat" tax.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at October 21, 2011 08:19 AM (8y9MW)
Stock market is ripping. Is the economy bad or not? I got out in August and feel like I've been lied to.
The stock market is on drugs.
Posted by: FireHorse at October 21, 2011 08:21 AM (XFU/t)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 21, 2011 08:21 AM (ieDPL)
Then I would say they are either fools or pussies. I guess making a commitment and getting paid and seeing it thru is an ethical thing with me.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 21, 2011 08:22 AM (xOy1A)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 21, 2011 08:22 AM (+lsX1)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 21, 2011 08:23 AM (ieDPL)
A flat tax needs to be flat as the earth used to be. Piling on the exemptions and exceptions and special favors merely replicates the current system, except with the added bonus of costing a lot of money for bureaucrats to rework the system.
Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic as it were, and btw the anniversary of its sinking is almost here.
Posted by: Boots at October 21, 2011 08:24 AM (neKzn)
They're mercenaries professionals. That is, they do what they do for money, and they (probably) take pride in their work.
If I were working at a sinking ship, I'd get out ASAP as well. The difference here is that most of her workers are paid well enough- and the talent pool for their industry is small enough- that they can quit first and look for work later.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at October 21, 2011 08:24 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Dave at October 21, 2011 08:24 AM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at October 21, 2011 08:25 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 21, 2011 08:26 AM (ieDPL)
Posted by: Dave at October 21, 2011 08:26 AM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 21, 2011 12:22 PM (+lsX1)
Say, do you write the tax laws by any chance? The writing seems familiar...
Posted by: HH at October 21, 2011 08:27 AM (HFnqj)
Posted by: Alte Schule at October 21, 2011 08:27 AM (MLJu8)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 21, 2011 08:27 AM (ieDPL)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 21, 2011 08:27 AM (/2Yhs)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 21, 2011 08:28 AM (i6RpT)
Cain is going to start dropping here shortly as more of the public sees the details. In addition, he is due for another visit to Fox News Sunday.
Posted by: Vic at October 21, 2011 08:29 AM (YdQQY)
So, yeah, I guess it's wait and see...
Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada! at October 21, 2011 08:29 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 21, 2011 08:29 AM (ieDPL)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 21, 2011 08:30 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Shiggz undecided - weighing pros-cons-balls at October 21, 2011 08:30 AM (I9fXA)
Posted by: Paladin at October 21, 2011 08:31 AM (DPvCq)
Posted by: Dave at October 21, 2011 08:31 AM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Truman North at October 21, 2011 08:31 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Vic at October 21, 2011 08:32 AM (YdQQY)
Herman Cain: 999.
Rick Perry: 5 dollar footlong.
Newt Gingrich: The assumption contained within the question is bullshit and I reject it on it's face.
John Huntsman: Ching chang chong, ching chang chong.
Michelle Bachmann: Someone once told me that taxes turned their daughter into a newt.
Ron Paul: End the government monopoly and privatize tax leverage.
Mitt Romney: This week my plan is 16,000 pages long.
Posted by: Entropy at October 21, 2011 08:32 AM (XxXUI)
Posted by: Truman North at October 21, 2011 12:31 PM (I2LwF)
A singular up twinkle to you.
Posted by: DGAS at October 21, 2011 08:32 AM (EL+OC)
Follow up questions: How many paid staffers do each of the other campaigns have in NH?
(And no, the staff at the local Barnes and Noble does not count, Mr. Cain.)
Posted by: Jimmuy at October 21, 2011 08:33 AM (hROVJ)
90 FOX TV is reporting that later today oclusterfuck will announce that ALL, thatÂ’s right folks, ALL American Troops will be out of Iraq by the end of the year.
Are you sure it's this year? .... I thought he already said it would be the end of 2012.....which would be next year. That way all the shit would happen after the election.
Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at October 21, 2011 08:33 AM (uxJnJ)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 21, 2011 08:33 AM (ieDPL)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 21, 2011 08:34 AM (UlUS4)
Posted by: Vic at October
Oh, hell yes.
Posted by: Truman North at October 21, 2011 08:34 AM (I2LwF)
Are you sure it's this year? .... I thought he already said it would be the end of 2012.....which would be next year. That way all the shit would happen after the election.
Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at October 21, 2011 12:33 PM (uxJnJ)
I just heard the same thing on WLS AM. Barry is obviously going to play politics with everything
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 21, 2011 08:34 AM (1Jaio)
Drudge is linking to a CBS station with a similar story. Jeezus. He really IS that stupid.
Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada! at October 21, 2011 08:35 AM (GBXon)
It's just the NH staff. My thinking is that the internal polling numbers in NH don't look too good for Bachmann.
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick getyourpawsofoffmeyoudamndirtyape Perry at October 21, 2011 08:35 AM (K7Gb2)
Posted by: Shiggz undecided - weighing pros-cons-balls at October 21, 2011 08:35 AM (I9fXA)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 21, 2011 08:35 AM (i6RpT)
So all the hard work, pain, death, and sacrifice is going right down the crapper and Iraq is being given to Iran.
Well, at least we got a lot of experience out of it so that when we have to go back it will be a little bit easier.
/sarc
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 21, 2011 08:36 AM (JxMoP)
99 The Ron Paul button in my sidebar isn't showing up-- just a white space.
No....it's still there. At least for me it is.
What's up with that shit anyway. Why is that there?
Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at October 21, 2011 08:36 AM (uxJnJ)
Keep plucking that falafel, assholes.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 21, 2011 12:34 PM (UlUS4)
Betcha the militant atheists don't start preaching to them.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 21, 2011 08:36 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 21, 2011 08:36 AM (ieDPL)
Posted by: SFGoth at October 21, 2011 08:36 AM (dZ756)
Posted by: SFGoth at October 21, 2011 08:37 AM (dZ756)
Posted by: t-bird at October 21, 2011 08:37 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: AndrewsDad at October 21, 2011 08:37 AM (C2//T)
Posted by: Obama at October 21, 2011 08:37 AM (Xm1aB)
Personally I didn't think he'd go full retard this soon. All those soldiers brought home = all those soldiers VOTING IN PERSON. I don't think he's thought his clever plan all the way through...
Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada! at October 21, 2011 08:38 AM (GBXon)
@THEHermanCain "if you're at or below the poverty level, your plan isn't 999, it's 909."
Cain seems to be unaware that many conservative voters are concerned that voters in the lowest economic strata don't have any skin in the game when it comes to voting against tax hikes.
Posted by: Speller at October 21, 2011 08:38 AM (J74Py)
Posted by: SFGoth at October 21, 2011 12:36 PM (dZ756)
Yes but it is hard to understand them... you know they are speaking Austrian.
Posted by: Barack Obama at October 21, 2011 08:38 AM (sHR7F)
Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at October 21, 2011 12:33 PM (uxJnJ)
THIS year. Next year we run from Afgansitan It's not running away - it's retrograde advancing!
Posted by: Alte Schule at October 21, 2011 08:38 AM (MLJu8)
We need a link to that story asap, but Insty has one. When the cops are saying that you are going all totalitarian on them, you probably need to reevaluate your world view. The picture with the story is classic.
Posted by: pep at October 21, 2011 08:39 AM (YXmuI)
Its not just NH, her numbers took a huge nosedive in SC as well and this should be a good State for her.
Herman Cain 30%Mitt Romney 26%Rick Perry 9%Newt Gingrich 6%Michele Bachmann 5%Ron Paul 5%Of course NBC had some influence on that poll.
Posted by: Vic at October 21, 2011 08:39 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 21, 2011 08:39 AM (i6RpT)
"I try not to think about the McDonald's McRib"
McRib: The particle board of fast food sandwiches
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 21, 2011 08:39 AM (JxMoP)
Posted by: DangerGirl at October 21, 2011 08:39 AM (GAqsy)
Posted by: pko Strany at October 21, 2011 08:40 AM (RJOgX)
Because I find that a nice glass of milk and a cookie works real good for me. Or a nice BLT on toast with just a tiny bit of mayo.
Sorts me right out.
Posted by: sifty at October 21, 2011 08:40 AM (4CSeG)
113.....THIS year. Next year we run from Afgansitan.
Damn. Shitfuckpiss&donkeydoo.
I must consult my R.Lee Ermey handbook of inspired profanity to come up with more appropriate phrases to express my outrage.
Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at October 21, 2011 08:40 AM (uxJnJ)
Posted by: Dave at October 21, 2011 08:40 AM (Xm1aB)
A: oooh, bacon!!! *finger gestures*
Me: did you just up twinkles me?
FML
Hah. Was just the Homer Simpson bacon finger gesture though?
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 21, 2011 08:40 AM (mjSSA)
I'm new to politics, is this the norm for for a presidential race on our side? Cause if so, I gotta find myself another hobby.
Posted by: jeannebodine at October 21, 2011 08:40 AM (byR8d)
'Cause if that is true: (a) cash in all those Iraqi Dinars 'cause they just got worth less than the paper they are printed on, and (b) watch Iraq explode about September of next year.
It's such a stupid plan, I have to say the only reason the SCOAMF is proposing it is he is trying in every possible way to throw the next election.
Posted by: Jimmuy at October 21, 2011 08:41 AM (hROVJ)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 21, 2011 08:41 AM (ieDPL)
Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada! at October 21, 2011 12:38 PM (GBXon)
Honestly, I think he has to do this now. If he announces the drawdown in 2012, then people will wonder what's going to happen. What he's hoping for is that whatever happens won't be too bad.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 21, 2011 08:41 AM (T0NGe)
spam. AND, they put pickles on it. Bluuuuuuuck.
Posted by: DGAS at October 21, 2011 08:42 AM (EL+OC)
Posted by: t-bird at October 21, 2011 08:43 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: pko Strany at October 21, 2011 08:43 AM (RJOgX)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 21, 2011 08:43 AM (ieDPL)
Posted by: lu feeling twinkly at October 21, 2011 08:43 AM (pLTLS)
(b) watch Iraq explode about September of next year.
I wonder what effect that would have on the election. The only possible spin I can think of would be, "Good thing we got out of there when we did," but that would be laughable.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 21, 2011 08:43 AM (JxMoP)
Posted by: lu feeling twinkly at October 21, 2011 08:44 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Dave at October 21, 2011 08:44 AM (Xm1aB)
Think of it as a sport. A really irritating, pointless sport.
Posted by: pep at October 21, 2011 08:44 AM (aDFMZ)
did anyone see how OWS has gone full on Animal Farm
I am a lurker and don't know if that link works
Posted by: seaniep at October 21, 2011 08:44 AM (ajJXu)
Posted by: sifty at October 21, 2011 08:44 AM (4CSeG)
Posted by: phoenixgirl on other work computer at October 21, 2011 08:45 AM (s+J9D)
Yeah, pretty much. Reagan was hammered, even by conservatives, during his own term.
We want an ideologically pure intellectual with vast governing experience who is down to earth and wins every debate and every interview. He also must have a perfect homelife and have no scandal that even the MSM can invent.
Yeah...
Also, a lot of the people who bash one candidate are promoting their own. So, be cynical.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 21, 2011 08:45 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: phoenixgirl on other work computer at October 21, 2011 08:45 AM (s+J9D)
So he isn't going to leave the 3,000 he stupidly said he would.
Needless to say, he is doing the exact opposite that I would do, I would get them out of Afgan since there is no reasonable chance of society there (leave now, bomb later), but keep them in Iraq. His preferred muzzie brotherhood must be strong enough to win the coming civil war now.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 21, 2011 08:46 AM (xOy1A)
And good hair. Don't forget the hair.
Posted by: pep at October 21, 2011 08:46 AM (aDFMZ)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 21, 2011 08:46 AM (1Jaio)
Now that's a party!
That was Thanksgiving Dinner in our trailer a couple years back during Carter I.
Posted by: sifty at October 21, 2011 08:46 AM (4CSeG)
A couple cans of Vienna Sausages, Saltine Crackers, Little Debbie Oatmeal Creme Pies, and some Miller Lite.
The gelatinized fat from the Vienna Sausages is kind of gross though.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 21, 2011 08:46 AM (JxMoP)
Posted by: grognard at October 21, 2011 08:47 AM (NS2Mo)
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 21, 2011 08:47 AM (mjSSA)
Posted by: sifty at October 21, 2011 08:48 AM (4CSeG)
Posted by: Dave at October 21, 2011 08:48 AM (Xm1aB)
Also, a lot of the people who bash one candidate are promoting their own.
The hell you say!
You mean Rick Perry's racist drug plane really isn't flown by illegal immigrant pilots?
Posted by: Entropy at October 21, 2011 08:48 AM (XxXUI)
Posted by: phoenixgirl on other work computer at October 21, 2011 12:45 PM (s+J9D)
I think it can be forwarded on if it's sent to:
Honeyblossom Skye-Heart
101 Mom's Basement
Berkeley, CA
Posted by: AmishDude at October 21, 2011 08:48 AM (T0NGe)
Isn't it beyond obvious now that it has been Obama's goal to further an islamic capiphte? Remember that he did absolutely nothing to support the secular uprising in Iran, while he's actively supported the downfall of secular dictators in other arab countries. Also remember that his first offical telephone call after becoming president was to Abbas. He may or may not be a muslim himself, but he is definitely assisting them to further their goals.
Posted by: Havedash at October 21, 2011 08:48 AM (sFD5n)
You mean Rick Perry's racist drug plane really isn't flown by illegal immigrant pilots?
Posted by: Entropy at October 21, 2011 12:48 PM (XxXUI)
WaPo Delenda Est!
Posted by: AmishDude at October 21, 2011 08:49 AM (T0NGe)
re: Lord of the Flies
If you listen to the Occupiers you'll hear how proud they are of what they "built."
They believe that they built a city and formed a new government. They fancy themselves part pioneer and part Pilgrim.
They have their own rules, laws. They discovered a new way of doing things.
Of course they built nothing. They are nothing more than squatters on already-groomed public land. They are not self-sufficient in the least.
And in Boston, they run across the street to use the public train station's rest room facilities.
Posted by: soothsayer at October 21, 2011 08:49 AM (G/zuv)
Posted by: Havedash at October 21, 2011 12:48 PM (sFD5n)
Obama views Muslims the way that Jane Goodall views chimps.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 21, 2011 08:49 AM (T0NGe)
The problem with a sales tax exemption is that it's simply going to result in a huge black market.
That's racist!!11!!!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 21, 2011 08:49 AM (4q5tP)
Leaves you with pure, clean, nitrite-packed, migraine -inducing Vienna goodness. Worthy of the finest saltines.
Posted by: sifty at October 21, 2011 08:50 AM (4CSeG)
Cain reminds me of all the Corporate CEOs out there who get pressured to 'come up with a plan'....who look to their young thumbsucker MBAs to come up with 'a plan'.
Then they launch said 'plan'....and spend time hawking it and selling it. Then when people start pointing out the problems with 'the plan', they start coming up with 'fixes for the plan'. .....And before long, 'the plan' ends up being worse that the policy that it was intended to replace.
How many times have you gone to the store and looked for that favorite shampoo or other product....only to find that it had been replaced by something "New & Improved" that ended up being not-as-good as the old product?
This is the result of the sort of 'corporate thinking' that we are seeing coming out of Herman Cain.
Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at October 21, 2011 08:51 AM (uxJnJ)
Posted by: phoenixgirl on other work computer at October 21, 2011 12:45 PM (s+J9D)
I declare that to make sure the peoples voices are heard, they will be able to get ballots from the trunk of the black 1986 oldsmobile in the alley.
Posted by: Judge Duke Onthelaw at October 21, 2011 08:51 AM (FIDMq)
It's like we were all born in the same trailer park sometimes.
Posted by: sifty at October 21, 2011 08:51 AM (4CSeG)
Posted by: Dave at October 21, 2011 08:51 AM (Xm1aB)
But what's really interesting is that the quasi-government they created is that of a child's imagination.
hence my Lord of the Flies comparison.
Posted by: soothsayer at October 21, 2011 08:51 AM (G/zuv)
I'm thinking that it's fatigue. You know how I was saying that the "base" was bouncing around between candidates, and not giving anybody a mulligan? I'm thinking they've bounced between candidates so much that they've hit the point where they're worn out, and don't want to think about it any more. Cain benefits because he was the last on the list.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at October 21, 2011 08:52 AM (bjRNS)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 21, 2011 08:52 AM (ieDPL)
According to an old Rod Schnider movie (made during the Cold War) As Knights in armor would spot each other at a distance, they would either raise their visor to signify Peace, or Lower it for WAR!. Don't know if it's true, but it sounds good.
Posted by: Paladin at October 21, 2011 08:52 AM (hxLER)
Posted by: Dave at October 21, 2011 08:52 AM (Xm1aB)
White Castles are fricken delicious.
They're basically liver-and-onion burgers. Throw some bacon bits and cheddar cheese, or jalapeno cheese and you have yourself the very food of the gods.
It is also a very efficient meal. They come out even faster than they go in, especially if you drunk off your ass when you ate them, and I am pretty sure they violate Einstein's local speed limit.
Posted by: Entropy at October 21, 2011 08:52 AM (XxXUI)
I'm new to politics, is this the norm for for a presidential race on our side? Cause if so, I gotta find myself another hobby.
Posted by: jeannebodine
Last week was as bad as I have seen since pre-Iowa Huck-Romney battle of 08. After Florida/Super Tuesday it will be much more subdued among ourselves. With no VP in 08 and no clear frontrunner now is why so turbulent.
About the left, they all agree on about everything which is why a technicality like "drivers licenses for illegals" was their big throw down argument between Hillary and Obama. Outside of the "victim trump card" which they fight over like jackals, they all agree we "rabble" are the problem and they must control us and take our money even more then they do now.
For us there was a glorious 2 months in 08 when Hillary supporters were screeching about their newly discovered run in with media bias and the Obama people were screeching "OMG will Clintons really say and do anything to get power.".. except for that utopian eye of the storm... yes its messier over here because we debate the big questions.
Posted by: Shiggz undecided - weighing pros-cons-balls at October 21, 2011 08:53 AM (I9fXA)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 21, 2011 08:53 AM (ieDPL)
Posted by: Dave at October 21, 2011 08:54 AM (Xm1aB)
One of the things that Steve Jobs was supposed to have said is that the hardest, but most important part, of design was saying, "No."
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at October 21, 2011 08:54 AM (bjRNS)
Posted by: phoenixgirl on other work computer at October 21, 2011 08:54 AM (s+J9D)
Posted by: Dave at October 21, 2011 08:54 AM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 21, 2011 08:55 AM (JxMoP)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 21, 2011 08:55 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Vic at October 21, 2011 08:55 AM (YdQQY)
Uh, yeah, about that...
Posted by: Sheepish Earth First Arsonist at October 21, 2011 08:55 AM (GBXon)
The stupid is so bad it burns.
Posted by: Vic at October 21, 2011 08:56 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 21, 2011 08:56 AM (ieDPL)
Braunschweiger Liverwurst > Vienna sausage.
Posted by: Entropy at October 21, 2011 08:57 AM (XxXUI)
Watergate did not have a body count.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at October 21, 2011 08:57 AM (8y9MW)
Ohio looks like it may split its primary election because of a redistricting scuffle with the Democrats. Apparently, the later date for the presidential primary will now make Ohio a winner take all state. If Anyone But Romney can survive till June, Ohio becomes our last best hope:
Ohio voters would cast ballots for local, state and U.S. Senate races in March, but the 2012 presidential and U.S. House primaries would be moved to June 12 under a bill that passed the Senate yesterday. It is slated for a quick House vote today — unless a deal on a new congressional map is reached.
The new primary would change how Republican presidential delegates are selected. Under national GOP rules, holding the primary in March required the Ohio contest to be proportional, meaning a Republican White House hopeful could win delegates without carrying the state. But when the Ohio GOP submitted its delegate plan last month, it contained a clause reverting to winner-take-all if the primary is shifted later than April 1.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 21, 2011 08:57 AM (oBrVT)
Posted by: lu feeling twinkly at October 21, 2011 08:58 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: John Galt at October 21, 2011 08:59 AM (9NQ6I)
Agreed.
White Castles, true Rectal Rockets.
Posted by: Dave at October 21, 2011 12:54 PM (Xm1aB)
You haven't tried us then?
Posted by: Krystal Burger at October 21, 2011 09:01 AM (EL+OC)
Posted by: Jimmuy at October 21, 2011 12:41 PM (hROVJ)
Think of the bigger picture. It's not about the election; other than Obama sees that he may not have 4 more years in power. Obama has a mission to accomplish, and you don't have to be Tom Clancy to see it.
Posted by: Havedash at October 21, 2011 09:02 AM (sFD5n)
Posted by: Entropy at October 21, 2011 12:52 PM (XxXUI)
OK, checking White Castles off the list...
Srsly guys, BBQ McDonalds? All I can say from here in KC, GET OFF MY LAWN!
geez...
Posted by: HH at October 21, 2011 09:03 AM (HFnqj)
58
Also, in that Romney talk I spotted on C-Span last night, he proposed trimming the federal workforce by 10%, of course through retirements, not firings.
Oh the boldness!
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I said I wanted to hear that yesterday morning. (after the debates)
Romney reads Ace!!!
Doesn't matter though, I'm still ABR.
Posted by: TantoriusMaximus at October 21, 2011 09:14 AM (7glA7)
Posted by: CAC at October 21, 2011 09:35 AM (JEVge)
According to Ten Letters, a new book by Washington Post reporter Eli Saslow, President Obama has on more than one occasion has "cut personal checks to struggling Americans who've written to the White House," the Huffington Post reports.
He's a liar, based on his charitable giving track-record, or an idiot for not working through an organized non-profit.
BTW, are his relatives still living the slums? Why not take care of them first if he's so eager to write checks?
Posted by: Y-not at October 21, 2011 09:35 AM (5H6zj)
"WHO is still supporting Bachmann at this point?"
People who think that injections given at age 11 can cause retrograde Downs Syndrome.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at October 21, 2011 09:41 AM (kaOJx)
Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at October 21, 2011 09:55 AM (qndXR)
Posted by: Old Texas Chick at October 21, 2011 10:16 AM (lLXZV)
Posted by: Iron Balls McGinty at October 21, 2011 10:17 AM (Gkhxf)
Cain seems to be unaware that many conservative voters are concerned that voters in the lowest economic strata don't have any skin in the game when it comes to voting against tax hikes.
Posted by: Speller at October 21, 2011 12:38 PM (J74Py)
Cain seems mostly unaware of about 99.9% of the world around him.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at October 21, 2011 10:49 AM (haFNK)
Posted by: steevy at October 21, 2011 12:42 PM (fyOgS)
I am not clear if I totally understand the full thought pattern behind this.
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