February 04, 2011
— Ace I don't really care a lot that Obama missed a clause in a Bible verse. (He missed the part about "renews their strength" and went right into "soar on wings like eagles.")
But what is Media Matters being paid for? In spinning for the Divine One who can Maketh No Error, they claim, gee whiz, these winguts apparently don't know there is more than one version of the Bible, and Obama was quoting accurately from the New International Version.
Media Matters opines:
This would be funny if it weren't so pathetic.
And to prove Obama accurately quoted the New International Version they link the passage in question, which confirms the "renews their strength" part is absent in that translation which also contains the "renews their strength" part, proving that Obama did indeed botch this version of the quotation as well.
They are linking that to prove he accurately quoted from it, apparently not bothering to click on the link themselves and discover, nope, he was wrong according to that version, too.
As Media Matters says:
This would be funny if it weren't so pathetic.
I heareth thee, brother. I feeleth thee.
Question: Media Matters is so stupid and makes so many grotesque errors like this -- do you think it's possible they're smart enough to plan these errors just to drive traffic to their site?
Gotta be some reason for the stupidity.
Ahem: "pastordan" at "Religious Dispatches," which seems to be one of those left-wing fake evangelical organizations that's so hot for Obama, makes the same error, following Media Matters.
But like this is supposedly a religious website, right? Unlike Media Matters, they pretend to have a familiarity with the text, right?
So how come they don't bother to check the quote either?
They also get quite huffy that these wingnuts don't understand their Bibles the way the leftwingnuts do.
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Preferably one that enshrines each aspect of the Ace-of-Spades lifestyle as mandatory, or forgivable with a penance that also infuriates collectivists.
"Thou shalt ogle, or thou shalt train ten people in firearms safety as penance."
Posted by: Al at February 04, 2011 01:54 PM (MzQOZ)
Posted by: rdbrewer at February 04, 2011 01:54 PM (YhhXM)
Posted by: _____ Mom, The $5 secret ____ doesn't want you to hear at February 04, 2011 01:54 PM (PAlxT)
Posted by: dagny at February 04, 2011 01:55 PM (7oMSd)
Sometimes the coincidences in all of this are amazing. If you put them in a book it would be labeled unrealistic.
Posted by: Miss Marple at February 04, 2011 01:55 PM (Fo83G)
Posted by: OxyCon at February 04, 2011 01:56 PM (eJ7Yr)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 04, 2011 01:56 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: ahem at February 04, 2011 01:56 PM (cnL0B)
Posted by: Techie at February 04, 2011 01:57 PM (PAlxT)
Posted by: ConservativeintheCity at February 04, 2011 01:57 PM (JourR)
Posted by: Miss Marple at February 04, 2011 01:58 PM (Fo83G)
Posted by: blaster at February 04, 2011 01:58 PM (l5dj7)
Even though the point of the MM article itself was to prove that Obama was right, but what's some very very obvious evidence when there's a narrative to be made.
Standard Leftist/MBM tactic: Never admit to being wrong, just complain louder.
Posted by: Jack at February 04, 2011 02:00 PM (e/FD0)
Posted by: Dr Spank at February 04, 2011 02:03 PM (1fB+3)
31 But teh kittehs in der waitin watchin 4 CeilingCat 2 PWNS, dese kittehs razed up laks BirdCatz, an dey can has runin rely speedi !!!!!!!11!!!!! an walkses along fences and no loos balanz EVR so ther.
Ceiling Cat gonna PWN Osama Obama's azz! Srsly.
Posted by: MrScribbler© at February 04, 2011 02:04 PM (Ulu3i)
I like the way they also think that all us "fundamentalists" use the King James exclusively. I have only met a very few people who thought that. Personally I like to use my interlinear version these days.
Though admittedly one of my grandfather's congregation once objected to his use of the NIV saying, "If the King James was good enough for Peter and Paul, it is good enough for me." That was decades ago, though.
Posted by: Grey Fox at February 04, 2011 02:04 PM (dBG0+)
Posted by: Dr Spank at February 04, 2011 02:06 PM (1fB+3)
Posted by: Timbo at February 04, 2011 02:06 PM (ph9vn)
Has whoever programmed TOTUS been fired?
I'm amazed that Media Matters knows the NIV exists.
Yeah, I always figured they only had a copy of that translation where Jesus instructs his followers to demand Caesar confiscate more of their wages so that he could use a small portion of that money to feed the poor (but no dessert).
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 04, 2011 02:06 PM (TUpD9)
"Hark, what light through yon window breaks!"
Its in the constitution - you can look it up.
B. Hussien Obama, President and Demi-God
Posted by: HoundOfDoom at February 04, 2011 02:07 PM (KhioZ)
The King James Version is the most beautiful linguistically speaking.
Posted by: Holger at February 04, 2011 02:08 PM (YxGud)
Posted by: Dave C at February 04, 2011 02:08 PM (YRt4D)
Media Matters, you can't rely on your tongue alone. You need to work the balls at the same time.
(Courtesy of the New York Times guide to style)
Posted by: HoundOfDoom at February 04, 2011 02:09 PM (KhioZ)
Posted by: Timbo at February 04, 2011 06:06 PM (ph9vn)
Based on what they did today, would you ever feel confident you were getting an objective account of whatever they'd cover?
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 04, 2011 02:09 PM (eh+ki)
Posted by: Dave C at February 04, 2011 02:09 PM (YRt4D)
Posted by: MSM talking heads at February 04, 2011 02:12 PM (SyLEU)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 04, 2011 02:13 PM (sZ+lP)
Posted by: dagny at February 04, 2011 02:14 PM (7oMSd)
Posted by: dagny at February 04, 2011 02:16 PM (7oMSd)
Posted by: verses found only in Genesis, Baracky's eyewitness cut at February 04, 2011 02:17 PM (7GfKM)
Yes.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 04, 2011 02:17 PM (sZ+lP)
One of my favorite things about the lolcats Bible is that it is, pretty much, theologically accurate.
And yeah, the comments over at MM make Andi look like a bastion of intellectual rigor and clarity.
Posted by: alexthechick at February 04, 2011 02:17 PM (qPgNK)
Posted by: The Book of Obama at February 04, 2011 02:21 PM (1fB+3)
On the other side, how many times have we seen the Lefty media pull this "LOL, dumb wingers" and then discovered to be the dumb ones themselves?
If they had shame, they'd be in trouble.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 04, 2011 02:21 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: CoolCzech at February 04, 2011 02:25 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: The Book of Obama at February 04, 2011 02:25 PM (TUpD9)
Posted by: Paul at February 04, 2011 02:27 PM (3qmtL)
Posted by: ya2daup at February 04, 2011 02:27 PM (7GfKM)
Obama's version of the 23rd psalm.
The Lord is my Shepherd, I shall not want.
He maketh me tee off in green fairways:
He leadeath my golf ball over the still waters.
He restores my birdie.
He Leadeth me in the golf paths of the 13th fairway.
Yea, though I watch my caddie walk through the valley of Sawgrass,
I fear no chip shot: For thou are with my with me;
Thy five iron and three wood, they comfort me.
You prepare a table before me at the 19th hole in the presence of my
subordinates. You anoint my head with Banana Boat sunscreen: my beer
mug overflows.
Surely goodness and the peasants will follow me all the days of my exalted life, and I will dwell in the Obama White House forever.
Posted by: mpfs at February 04, 2011 02:28 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Paul at February 04, 2011 02:28 PM (3qmtL)
Posted by: The Book of Obama 2:4 at February 04, 2011 02:28 PM (1fB+3)
Posted by: Barry Obama at February 04, 2011 02:29 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 04, 2011 02:31 PM (SJ6/3)
Paul, you ignorant slut, here's the NIV version which, yuppers, has it in there:
31 but those who hope in the LORD
will renew their strength.
They will soar on wings like eagles;
they will run and not grow weary,
they will walk and not be faint.
You see that little NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION on the top? That would indicate that it is from the NIV. So, you know, I'm gonna say you're really really wrong.
Posted by: alexthechick at February 04, 2011 02:33 PM (qPgNK)
Posted by: Techie at February 04, 2011 02:37 PM (PAlxT)
Every single English version of the Bible contains the phrase "renew their strength" or something like that. Why can't they just admit Obama got his quote wrong? Everyone does it.
Posted by: hueydiamondpooty at February 04, 2011 02:37 PM (/amsz)
MBM covering for MBP (make - believe president).
Pride goeth before a fall.
A hope he fall a long waaaaaaaaaaaay.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at February 04, 2011 02:39 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: White House Religious Staff at February 04, 2011 02:40 PM (APaTx)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 04, 2011 02:40 PM (SJ6/3)
Posted by: More Biblical Verse from Barack Obama (Smartest Man Alive™) at February 04, 2011 02:42 PM (STZ9e)
It's a propaganda operation. The defense doesn't have to be correct though some truthiness is helpful. The whole point is to provide a rebuttal, any rebuttal, to say at a future point that there was a rebuttal to the critique. The technique is to set a barrier to discussion so that the exposure of the mistake continues no further. Media Matters et al. are counting on ignorance of the critic or of the audience to not know anything beyond the most superficial context which can be quickly provided as, "No, we showed where X was correct about Y so you may shut up now." Their hope is that there is no follow-up which is usually a safe bet. Plus, even if there is a follow-up, the propagandist can muddle up the mistake with versions of "facts."
It's a slick trick when audiences have the attention span of fleas. Get a rebuttal, however wrong, out ASAP so that a known mistake doesn't become a concrete mistake.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 04, 2011 02:42 PM (swuwV)
Posted by: Holger at February 04, 2011 06:08 PM (YxGud)
No question, though it was a little archaic even when it was first translated. The problem is that as our knowledge of Koine Greek and Classical Hebrew has improved and the English language has changed, it no longer conveys the meaning of the original languages into English. Saying that God "condescends" to us carries a very different implication now than it did a couple hundred years ago, for example.
Posted by: Grey Fox at February 04, 2011 02:42 PM (dBG0+)
Posted by: Brother Maynard at February 04, 2011 02:44 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: Grandma Mimi at February 04, 2011 02:44 PM (D012y)
Posted by: CoolCzech at February 04, 2011 02:46 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 04, 2011 02:46 PM (ujg0T)
Obama prayer breakfast features environmentally conscious and progressive god, as opposed to evil oppressor god of Bush years
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 04, 2011 02:47 PM (TUpD9)
Posted by: Dang at February 04, 2011 02:47 PM (TXKVh)
Ahhh, y'all are making me blush.
Posted by: alexthechick at February 04, 2011 02:48 PM (qPgNK)
Posted by: moi at February 04, 2011 02:48 PM (Ez4Ql)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 04, 2011 02:49 PM (SJ6/3)
Why not? Pretending to be a president has worked pretty well for him.
Posted by: BO at February 04, 2011 02:50 PM (P18+/)
Posted by: The Book of Obama 1:15 at February 04, 2011 02:50 PM (1fB+3)
Posted by: CoolCzech at February 04, 2011 02:51 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: Jaynie59 at February 04, 2011 02:51 PM (/f9MS)
Posted by: CoolCzech at February 04, 2011 02:53 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: moi at February 04, 2011 02:55 PM (Ez4Ql)
Posted by: toby928™ at February 04, 2011 02:57 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: toby928™ at February 04, 2011 06:57 PM (GTbGH)
Actually, the devil can quote Scripture in a more enticing way to his followers...
Oops! Nevermind, I see we agree.
Posted by: ErikW at February 04, 2011 03:03 PM (Qtl1Z)
Media Matters would never botch a quote from Das Kapital.
But then, they're much more familiar with that text than that of the Bible.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 04, 2011 03:07 PM (GpWJ2)
Posted by: toby928™ at February 04, 2011 03:08 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: jeannie at February 04, 2011 03:10 PM (9LY+z)
Posted by: buzzion at February 04, 2011 03:11 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: toby928™ at February 04, 2011 07:08 PM (GTbGH)
On the flip side, I wonder if some asshole like Soros would like to think that if he performs enough evil, he might gain the favor of Satan and actually become the anti-christ.
I know that's way out there but how else does one explain their behaviour?
Posted by: ErikW at February 04, 2011 03:16 PM (Qtl1Z)
Posted by: Adobe Walls at February 04, 2011 03:19 PM (lUiZg)
Posted by: Deuteronomy 4:2 at February 04, 2011 03:28 PM (GaQNB)
Posted by: Jeremiah Wright at February 04, 2011 03:31 PM (GaQNB)
And on the seventh day, the Lord hit the links to work on his 23 handicap
Bits... of.....Snickers Bar......now........dotting.....my screen! Thanks!
Posted by: runningrn at February 04, 2011 03:35 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: sherlock at February 04, 2011 03:38 PM (U+goV)
If thou covet thy neighbor's house, help thyself.
You guys are making me laugh on a day where there isn't much to laugh about. Thank you so much!
And yes, I like memorizing in KJV--it's easier and kind of flows off the tongue. But I prefer NIV for reading.
I'm sure since he just sold out the Brits, he was actually quoting from the New English Version.
Posted by: runningrn at February 04, 2011 03:39 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at February 04, 2011 03:45 PM (ndlFj)
Posted by: Al at February 04, 2011 05:54 PM (MzQOZ)
If I do both, is there a bonus?
Special dispensation if I ogle any of the people I'm training?
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 04, 2011 03:54 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Dave C at February 04, 2011 03:54 PM (YRt4D)
So even if they're grievously wrong, they're still right *in principle.*
Which is why, ultimately, they can't be reasoned with.
Which is why Kratos is right.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 04, 2011 03:55 PM (bxiXv)
When you have the ability to move the goal posts at will, you can win every argument known to man.
Posted by: the hawk at February 04, 2011 03:57 PM (/B0x7)
Posted by: Lilith Obama at February 04, 2011 03:59 PM (c2dQJ)
Sheesh, this is one of the most recognizable passages from the OT. Those who wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength, they shall mount up with wings as eagles, they shall run and not grow weary, they shall walk and not faint.
(see it's progressively poetical, the idea being some trials in life are so tough that walking and not fainting can take more strength than mounting up with wings as eagles).
It's in all translations.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at February 04, 2011 03:59 PM (Wh0W+)
Posted by: Angry White Male at February 04, 2011 04:01 PM (7cXE7)
It's in all translations.
Oh Dave, don't be such a literalist! You know that lefties don't believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible!
To them God is everywhere and everyone. Besides, The Bible was written hundreds of years ago. Like The Constitution, it's a decrepit, ancient document that has no basis for application in modern life today. Progressives have evolved much past all of that good and evil, sin and salvation stuff.
Posted by: runningrn at February 04, 2011 04:03 PM (ihSHD)
It's in all translations.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at February 04, 2011 07:59 PM (Wh0W+)
4031 is my PIN on everything because I believe in the passage whole heartedly and I enjoy the reminder.
And no, I'm not worth shit so I'm not worried about having my ID stolen! 
Posted by: ErikW at February 04, 2011 04:08 PM (c2dQJ)
Posted by: Dave in Texas at February 04, 2011 04:10 PM (Wh0W+)
Posted by: Brother Maynard at February 04, 2011 06:44 PM (tJjm/)
One...Two...FIVE!
Posted by: King Arthur of the Britons at February 04, 2011 04:10 PM (bZ4NL)
Posted by: Phelps at February 04, 2011 04:20 PM (ACp4b)
Though admittedly one of my grandfather's congregation once objected to his use of the NIV saying, "If the King James was good enough for Peter and Paul, it is good enough for me." That was decades ago, though.
Posted by: Grey Fox at February 04, 2011 06:04 PM (dBG0+)
You are kidding, right? I mean, the KJV was written in the 17th century, only about 17 too late for Peter or Paul, and the NT didn't even exist until about the 4th Century....
Oh, yeah, you were kidding.
Posted by: tcn at February 04, 2011 04:23 PM (DjPot)
Anyway, so maybe Obama botched the verse a little, but at least he wasn't quoting the Koran.
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at February 04, 2011 05:09 PM (hfWKa)
Posted by: Gandalf de Blanco at February 04, 2011 05:28 PM (1Ap7+)
Posted by: Gandalf de Blanco at February 04, 2011 09:28 PM (1Ap7+)
For trivia buffs - the cartridge dimensions are the same. The chambers are different because the 5.56 is a higher pressure than the .223, over 62,000 psi vs. 55,000 for the .223.
The 5.56 has a larger chamber and longer throat (normally). You can shoot both in 5.56 chambers, but don't shoot 5.56 in .223 chambers.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 04, 2011 05:51 PM (bxiXv)
The left's true god is Obozo.
They worship him with blind faith.
Which would be funny if it weren't so pathetic.Posted by: Lemon Kitten at February 04, 2011 05:52 PM (0fzsA)
Heck, this guy can't even get quotes of documents from the founding of this nation correct, what makes anyone think that he's gonna get something from the OT right?
the sinner,
Patrick
Posted by: Patrick at February 04, 2011 05:54 PM (Mfc9p)
Posted by: Dave C at February 04, 2011 06:15 PM (YRt4D)
Posted by: Asteocles at February 04, 2011 06:25 PM (ogvhH)
No, he would have gotten that right.
Posted by: Laura Castellano at February 04, 2011 07:22 PM (fuw6p)
Posted by: semrocks at February 04, 2011 07:37 PM (zM+ij)
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at February 04, 2011 08:19 PM (vA9ld)
Posted by: Nathan Price at February 04, 2011 08:59 PM (0quQi)
So my prayer this morning is that we might seek His face not only in those moments, but each and every day; that every day as we go through the hustle and bustle of our lives, whether itÂ’s in Washington or Hollywood or anywhere in between, that we might every so often rise above the here and now, and kneel before the Eternal; that we might remember, Kaye, the fact that those who wait on the Lord will soar on wings like eagles, and they will run and not be weary, and they will walk and not faint.
When I wake in the morning, I wait on the Lord, and I ask Him to give me the strength to do right by our country and its people. And when I go to bed at night I wait on the Lord, and I ask Him to forgive me my sins, and look after my family and the American people, and make me an instrument of His will.
I say these prayers hoping they will be answered, and I say these prayers knowing that I must work and must sacrifice and must serve to see them answered. But I also say these prayers knowing that the act of prayer itself is a source of strength.
Elsewhere in his speech the President does quote the bible, and when he does he uses quote marks:
As it’s written in Job, “God’s voice thunders in marvelous ways. He does great things beyond our understandings.”
So, it was part of a reflection on prayer, not an attempt to make an exact quote -- a reflection on prayer that FOX Nation then chose to "botch" for some reason. As the FOX Nation article commenter 'Autumnwind' so ironically put it:
"By their fruits you shall know them"
Posted by: Carloz at February 05, 2011 06:10 AM (5sVJ5)
Posted by: darii at February 05, 2011 06:58 AM (RdrW8)
Posted by: rhhardin at February 06, 2011 03:00 AM (RU8Dd)
Posted by: Pa Deuce at February 06, 2011 04:25 AM (jkywk)
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at February 06, 2011 08:04 AM (vA9ld)
What's a little fudging The Word, while you can masquerade the message?
Posted by: Tex Taylor at February 06, 2011 09:33 AM (ezKbV)
Posted by: Buzz at February 06, 2011 09:57 AM (35Qdf)
And by the way, to the person who said the cite is pro-Obama, again: ever actually read it? They routinely criticize him. It's just from the left rather than the right. Again, there are distinctions here, this time between "Democrat" and "Obama" and "left."
Posted by: speakfor at February 06, 2011 10:17 AM (Mv/7L)
"The left's true god is Obozo. They worship him with blind faith."
Well, in the same way that the New Testament supersedes the Old for many Christians, Obama's words instantly become divine gospel for the Left... until further notice.
Thus, if you read the "New Foundation" Version of the the O'Bible, Obama's version of scripture will always be correct, no matter how many times it changes.
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at February 06, 2011 11:51 AM (hfWKa)
I like how he tries to deflect his own stupidity:
""Gotcha," however, is neither a functional equivalent of a smear campaign, nor a moral one. Media Matters mistakenly attributed the scripture quote to the NIV; I saw nothing obviously wrong with that, and failed to notice the omission. Shame on me, but I'm not the one charging a sitting president with misquoting the Bible."
No asshole, you're the one falsely charging everyone else of misquoting the Bible while pretending to be a biblical scholar. And as a minister who uses the NIV in your own church, you should probably at least check it first before reflexively defend your true God. What a pathetic excuse for a stalking horse.
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at February 06, 2011 12:06 PM (hfWKa)
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