December 06, 2011
— Ace He says "trickle-down economics" rather than capitalism, but "trickle-down economics" is merely an argument in favor of capitalism. There is no such thing as "trickle-down economics." There is capitalism, and the argued advantage of it, which is the trickling down of created wealth.
So he is in fact saying, as the headline puts it, that capitalism has never worked.
Meanwhile his Suicide Solution Socialism has apparently set the economic world on fire, I guess.
I don't talk about this too often because Monty does such a good job and it's frankly depressing. But Europe is probably going to plunge into something in between a recession or a depression, and may erupt in violence and political disorder.
And Europe is Obama's lodestar. That's where he wants to take us. To the extent we haven't gotten there yet, it's because Americans are soft, lazy bitter clingers who hate other sorts of people (and their politico-economic systems).
So Europe's 60 or 70 year history with socialism is about to end in violent upheavals and misery... and here's this ignoramus saying that it's capitalism which is the proven failure.
Video below, and some more commentary from Hot Air.
Tina Korbe is a little heartened that Obama has unmasked himself:
As tempting as it is to think not only that the government could supply us all with a comfortable living but also that it should, I’m tempted by something else far more. That “something else” is the Founders’ faith in self-government and voluntary associations in and through civic society. Obama said today “we can’t return” to a “do-it-on-your-own” economy, but what he fails to realize is that, for Americans, it’s not a choice between going it alone and going it with the government. He cited the example of a company — Marvin Windows and Doors — that voluntarily refuses to lay off its employees — but confusedly seemed to think more government involvement would help to proliferate that kind of company. But the CEO himself admits a sense of community inspires his faith in his employees — not any kind of government mandate. That CEO clearly keeps faith with the Founders, who, in the construction of our government, controlled for self-interest, but also admonished citizens to remember moral obligations to others.Today, the president did sweepingly what he has done patchily for the past few months, did at last what I have long wished he would do. He honestly argued for a welfare state and directly stated his disbelief in trickle-down economics. For once — again, except in a few places — this wasn’t conservative rhetoric to cover up progressive policies. It was progressive rhetoric to promote progressive policies. Nobody who reads this speech should be in doubt as to what he’s selling — but they should think deeply about how much freedom they’re willing to give up to buy it.
We can't return to a "do it yourself" economy?
Jesus God. He's really pretty much making the case for socialism, isn't he?
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Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 06, 2011 02:14 PM (pLTLS)
As much as I know he's a socialist, I couldn't believe- until I read this article- that he was that deep a believe in the cradle-to-grave society. He wants us all to be slaves of the state.
Someone should ask him if capitalism worked for the post-civil-war blacks, or if they would have been better off to remain as slaves.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 06, 2011 02:16 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 06, 2011 02:17 PM (DiqH3)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 06, 2011 02:18 PM (i0App)
Posted by: I am the walrus, goo-goo-ga-joo at December 06, 2011 02:18 PM (ndp2I)
Seriously. Racist.
Actually, Obama's a fascist in many ways. He has Mussolini's view of economics. And then there's all the iconography.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 06, 2011 02:18 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Mr. Wonderful at December 06, 2011 02:20 PM (sFhEw)
"trickle-down" is Capitalism. It's the idea that I work and get rich, and then hire people to work for me: so my wealth "trickles down" to those below me.
There is no, and never has been, such thing as a "trickle down" economy.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 06, 2011 02:20 PM (8y9MW)
>>Jesus God. He's really pretty much making the case for socialism, isn't he?
Hey, anyone else goin' Palamino?
Posted by: ontherocks at December 06, 2011 02:21 PM (HBqDo)
If Capitalism has "never worked", then why is the model system Obama admires, the Euro-style system of lavish social benefits and high taxation, heading for the pits right now? Furthermore, if capitalism has "never worked", why do the Euros need a capitalist US at all?
Teh Won is going all-in with the liberal fascism (BIRM - fascism is more leftist than the socialists and commies would like to admit).
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 06, 2011 02:21 PM (UR5vq)
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Didn't we learn not to do that in the last thread? Is the collective learning-curve of the Moron Horde a 1% Grade?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 06, 2011 02:21 PM (8y9MW)
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Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 06, 2011 02:21 PM (DiqH3)
Posted by: WalrusRex at December 06, 2011 02:22 PM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: attempted HTML fixer at December 06, 2011 02:22 PM (bRdb3)
Posted by: joeindc44 at December 06, 2011 02:22 PM (QxSug)
If the government gets involved, the MW CEO would just say, "Meh, they're OK, the government will take care of them." Which is the attitude welfare gives us.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 06, 2011 02:22 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: I am the walrus, goo-goo-ga-joo at December 06, 2011 02:23 PM (ndp2I)
Posted by: ontherocks at December 06, 2011 02:23 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: joeindc44 at December 06, 2011 02:23 PM (QxSug)
That might be the tragedy for Obama, it is not the tragedy of Obama. The tragedy of Obama is that our current President, Barack Obama, is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 06, 2011 02:23 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Y-not, job killer at December 06, 2011 02:24 PM (5H6zj)
European-style socialism is parasitic. Not only upon its own productive class but upon the US and the military protection it provides.
There's no more blood for it to suck.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 06, 2011 02:24 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 06, 2011 02:25 PM (O7ksG)
Posted by: Dr Spank at December 06, 2011 02:25 PM (H/kgP)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 06, 2011 02:25 PM (npr0X)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 06, 2011 02:26 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: tasker at December 06, 2011 02:26 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Mr Fever Head at December 06, 2011 02:26 PM (SzAZ7)
Meanwhile his Suicide Solution Socialism has apparently set the economic world on fire, I guess.
Yeah, arson is a good way to describe Socialism.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 06, 2011 02:27 PM (G+B5p)
Posted by: nevergiveup at December 06, 2011 02:27 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 06, 2011 02:27 PM (O7ksG)
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at December 06, 2011 02:28 PM (QKKT0)
The comments board has some 2004 style formatting. I like it. Those were good days, man, good days.
Appreciate the Ozzy reference--who would have thought that Ronnie James Dio would die before Ozzy?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 06, 2011 02:28 PM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 06, 2011 02:28 PM (DiqH3)
The euro is destroying Europe – and for some reason Britain is supporting it
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 06, 2011 02:28 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: joeindc44 at December 06, 2011 06:22 PM (QxSug)
I know it started with him long before, but you learn all the wrong lessons in law school:
(1) Life is a zero-sum game. Somebody wins, somebody loses.
(2) Men can mete out true justice.
(3) Credentials are more important than accomplishments.
(4) You can get wealthy without providing someone a good or a service they voluntarily choose.
(5) Math is for chumps.
(6) Don't know something? Call in experts and do whatever they tell you.
So on and so on.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 06, 2011 02:29 PM (T0NGe)
If Capitalism has "never worked", then why is the model system Obama admires, the Euro-style system of lavish social benefits and high taxation, heading for the pits right now? Furthermore, if capitalism has "never worked", why do the Euros need a capitalist US at all?
LALALALA! I can't hear you over my cognitive dissonance!!!
Also, do not confuse me with the facts, facts are evil.
Posted by: Commine Marxist Liberals in the USA at December 06, 2011 02:29 PM (z63Tr)
Posted by: Michele Bachmann at December 06, 2011 02:29 PM (H/kgP)
Posted by: GuyfromNH at December 06, 2011 02:29 PM (kbOju)
Posted by: newrouter at December 06, 2011 02:29 PM (xD4bD)
Burn the witch! I want a stay the hell out of my business reactionary party.
Posted by: WalrusRex at December 06, 2011 02:30 PM (Hx5uv)
Who would have thought that Keith Richards would still be alive at all?
Posted by: Shibumi at December 06, 2011 02:30 PM (z63Tr)
Communist North Korean leader Kim jong Il has made a simular statement, and his people are living the sweet life.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 06, 2011 06:27 PM (O7ksG)
King Putt is trying to beat Lil' Kim's unprecedented string of 8 holes-in-one in a single round of golf.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 06, 2011 02:30 PM (G+B5p)
It's a good thing you can't use URLs longer than 10 characters in the comments.
BECAUSE THAT MIGHT FUCK UP THE BLOG OR SOMETHING.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 06, 2011 02:30 PM (DiqH3)
Another example is from a few years ago when the Somali pirates were running wild. Wherever they operated, after capturing a ship, huge boom town would start up out of nowhere. Not hard to picture how that happens. If trickle-down didn't work, that would never happen. The concept of the 'boom town' wouldn't even exist in our minds
Obama is an asshole and he's also not very smart. Socialism has been great. His 3 year 'frozen in time' economics has worked out great. I've never been so happy watching my world crumble before me.
oh yeah... fuck you stuttering clusterfuck
Posted by: What a Jerk at December 06, 2011 02:30 PM (bcmD0)
Posted by: nevergiveup at December 06, 2011 02:31 PM (i6RpT)
That America could elect such a piece of shit to high office makes me believe that the American experiment in democracy is doomed.
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at December 06, 2011 02:31 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 06, 2011 02:32 PM (npr0X)
Well, in a way, yes, it set it on fire.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 06, 2011 02:32 PM (JYheX)
It's like Ace chugged a couple of Tardisil-and-Red Bulls and is off humping a sofa cushion in the kitchen.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 06, 2011 02:32 PM (DiqH3)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at December 06, 2011 02:32 PM (7hwUm)
Posted by: Yeah, that. at December 06, 2011 02:33 PM (0+B+X)
*injects myself with Liquid Whore and super-retard juice.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at December 06, 2011 02:33 PM (WvXvd)
Posted by: joeindc44 at December 06, 2011 06:23 PM (QxSug)
They believe in the perfectibility of man. Moreover, they believe in the inevitability of the perfectibility of man.
This explains liberalism in a nutshell.
The only reason that the world isn't perfect is that there is some rich guy or powerful guy keeping them down. Why if the 1% weren't hogging all of the wealth, we'd be living in paradise.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 06, 2011 02:33 PM (T0NGe)
It's like Ace chugged a couple of Tardisil-and-Red Bulls and is off humping a sofa cushion in the kitchen.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 06, 2011 06:32 PM (DiqH3)
Or as I like to call it, "Date Night".
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 06, 2011 02:33 PM (G+B5p)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 06, 2011 02:33 PM (p7SSh)
Posted by: LGoPs at December 06, 2011 02:34 PM (+Uv5V)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 06, 2011 02:34 PM (npr0X)
Posted by: Tim Tebow at December 06, 2011 02:34 PM (i6RpT)
Hmm, I wonder if he was lying when he didn't hear that homosexual preacher mouthing off about white people.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz at December 06, 2011 02:34 PM (LWXG/)
Posted by: WalrusRex at December 06, 2011 02:35 PM (Hx5uv)
and wasn't it Whoopi Goldberg that once said on TV that Communism is just sharing stuff, with each other.
Yeah.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz at December 06, 2011 02:35 PM (LWXG/)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 06, 2011 02:36 PM (8y9MW)
This is kind of like Red Dawn after the initial attacks, the Wolverines! retreat into the mountains, ), subsisting on beans and deer, Lea Thompson at her cutest, Powers Boothe getting shot out of the sky (it was 4 to 1)...the lines have stabilized, the Soviets have adopted more ruthless methods, and the Wolverines have to go in for the big kill.
I dunno, maybe it's a stretch. But I feel like the Dems have reached the apex of their support, have effectively conceded a scorched earth campaign, and will lose a mass swath of voters for a generation.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 06, 2011 02:36 PM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Buck O. Phive at December 06, 2011 02:36 PM (R2ShP)
Posted by: Tim Tebow at December 06, 2011 02:37 PM (i6RpT)
Sharing stuff with each other or getting gulaged.
Posted by: WalrusRex at December 06, 2011 02:37 PM (Hx5uv)
He pretty much made the freaking case for socialism a few days before his election...I want to say it was at the Joe the Plumber event, but I'm not sure. He just came right out and said he was going to redistribute the wealth.
Up until then, I thought he was going to win. But at that point, I thought, no, the American people will never stand for that. You see how good my judgement is.
An awful lot of Americans want socialism, despite all the evidence in front of them now.
Posted by: MissTammy Ain't Misbehavin' at December 06, 2011 02:37 PM (SsG4J)
Posted by: tasker at December 06, 2011 02:37 PM (r2PLg)
What we need is trickle up poverty.
Behold: The Obama doctrine. It works! *cough*
Stimulus. Barney Frank's Fannie Freddie Jamie Gorelick and Franklin Reines million dollar tax payer funded pay check machine. Bill Clinton's Jon Cornize 50,000/month paycheck machine. Solyndra. GM. Union money laundering tax payer funded bailouts for shitty union made crap and baby sitting. Shovel Ready. [*laughs*] Parachute/ pole vault it in- tax payer funded Nancy Pelosi care; delivered by the DMV. End of life pain pills and a nice pair of creased pants.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 06, 2011 02:37 PM (O7ksG)
"Republican economic theory"
Can the asshole lefties at the Post tell us what the "Democrat economic theory" would be?
Full scale Khmer Rouge Commie stuff? Kill all the intellectuals, people with glasses?
Christ I hate these fucks.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz at December 06, 2011 02:37 PM (LWXG/)
and wasn't it Whoopi Goldberg that once said on TV that Communism is just sharing stuff, with each other.
Yeah.
Jesus said the same thing, I think.
Posted by: The Rev. Jesse Jackson, Internet-Ordained Authority on Stuff Jesus Said at December 06, 2011 02:38 PM (QKKT0)
G-spot?
Posted by: Dave in Texas at December 06, 2011 06:35 PM (WvXvd)
A myth believed by the same people that believe in other imaginary creatures like the Loch Ness Monster, an Honest Democrat and the clitoris.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 06, 2011 02:38 PM (G+B5p)
Posted by: SethPower at December 06, 2011 02:38 PM (e6MoS)
Posted by: LGoPs at December 06, 2011 02:38 PM (+Uv5V)
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 06, 2011 02:38 PM (O7ksG)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 06, 2011 02:39 PM (p7SSh)
I hope you're right. I fear, however, that this is the culmination of 80-ish years of progressivism in the United States. There are just so many who have never worked, or who have never believed they had any options or ability to succeed because of the Progressive/Liberal/neo-Marxist movement that they'll believe this- especially since it's coming straight from the mouth of Uncle Sugar.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 06, 2011 02:39 PM (8y9MW)
Actually, he's making the case against socialism.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 06, 2011 02:39 PM (T0NGe)
King Putt is trying to beat Lil' Kim's unprecedented string of 8 holes-in-one in a single round of golf.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 06, 2011 06:30 PM (G+B5p)
I've heard from sources that the 18th green is built like a funnel.
That's what I heard.
Posted by: ErikW at December 06, 2011 02:39 PM (7qg4R)
@14: "There is no, and never has been, such thing as a "trickle down" economy."
Wanna bet? I piss on pyramids of people then throw them a pittance based on their position in the pyramid.
Posted by: George Soros at December 06, 2011 02:39 PM (jAqTK)
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 06, 2011 02:40 PM (O7ksG)
Posted by: joeindc44 at December 06, 2011 02:40 PM (QxSug)
"G-spot?"
It's like Atlantis: despite searching for hundreds of years, no one has ever found it.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 06, 2011 02:40 PM (DiqH3)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 06, 2011 02:41 PM (p7SSh)
It certainly will be over in a year, although it'll be over in a more dramatic and final way than you expect.
Posted by: The Mayans at December 06, 2011 02:41 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: Justamom at December 06, 2011 02:42 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: joeindc44 at December 06, 2011 02:42 PM (QxSug)
Capitalism and free markets have given ordinary Americans access to the American dream.
Stupid leftwingers hate this.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 06, 2011 02:43 PM (O7ksG)
I don't give a rat's ass what their birth certificates or passports say. They aren't Americans.
They're Occupiers. They just happened to be born on this stretch of land. It reminds me of an episode of All in the Family--Archie is going thru the junk mail..."Resident, Resident, Resident.....Occupant" which he hands to Meathead.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 06, 2011 02:43 PM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at December 06, 2011 02:44 PM (7hwUm)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 06, 2011 02:44 PM (p7SSh)
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 06, 2011 02:44 PM (O7ksG)
Posted by: katya, the non-hugger at December 06, 2011 02:44 PM (kpb4T)
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
He has been here, but does not represent our greater movement.
Posted by: Tysons fist at December 06, 2011 02:45 PM (pVvkk)
Posted by: Aikido2kyu at December 06, 2011 02:45 PM (zT3MH)
1. Taxes, taxes, and more taxers.
2. Skim a little (OK, a lot) of cream of the top for me and my homeboys.
3. Throw the remainder down a bottomless pit.
Posted by: WalrusRex at December 06, 2011 02:45 PM (Hx5uv)
And neither is Obama, no matter what his birth certificate says.
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at December 06, 2011 02:45 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: tasker at December 06, 2011 02:45 PM (r2PLg)
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Democrat economy theory is pure stupidity.
1. Taxes, taxes, and more taxers.
2. Skim a little (OK, a lot) of cream of the top for me and my homeboys.
3. Throw the remainder down a bottomless pit.
You got it.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 06, 2011 02:47 PM (O7ksG)
So let's get started.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 06, 2011 02:47 PM (SAMxH)
When they said "health care is a right," that was socialism.
When the said "a job is a right," that was socialism.
And on and on.
The depressing part isn't that they believe that stuff, it's that most of America doesn't believe they believe it--the whole rot about "we both love our country, we just have different ideas about how to make it better" canard I first heard nearly 20 years ago.
In their mind, because so many of them do not own a business, do not have any expenses beyond housing, transportation and food, they see all the "rich" who are worth millions and they think "if only we took a little from them and gave it to me everyone else, we'd all have a good, comfortable life."
It doesn't enter into their thinking that the money the "rich" have isn't sitting there doing nothing, that it is out there putting people to work, funding investments, paying others.
Socialism is selfish.
It is, and never was, about giving money to everyone, it's about giving an easier life to those who agitate for it. Your typical professor, making $200k+ (Hi, Elizabeth Warren) doesn't think they are rich, they think they work way too hard and will never, ever give half their salary to someone else--even though they advocate that another making as much as they should make do with half. But, they figure if we'd just take more from someone else, they'd not have to work so hard. It's not about the poor or the working class--it's about them. They are lazy.
Posted by: jimmuy at December 06, 2011 02:47 PM (/JzSK)
Posted by: tasker at December 06, 2011 02:47 PM (r2PLg)
Earlier I saw someone suggest that we fire them all. Out of a cannon. At the Sun.
Poetic and reasonably acceptable, yes?
Posted by: Tysons fist at December 06, 2011 02:47 PM (pVvkk)
Posted by: Aikido2kyu at December 06, 2011 02:48 PM (zT3MH)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 06, 2011 02:48 PM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: sTevo at December 06, 2011 02:48 PM (vXr7p)
As previously cited on this site, Obama prefers the North Korea/East Germany model to the South Korea/West Germany model.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 06, 2011 02:48 PM (JYheX)
Posted by: mike at December 06, 2011 02:48 PM (/8MOU)
Posted by: John the Baptist at December 06, 2011 02:49 PM (0tRzD)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at December 06, 2011 02:49 PM (7hwUm)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 06, 2011 02:49 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: joeindc44 at December 06, 2011 02:50 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Justamom at December 06, 2011 02:50 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: tasker at December 06, 2011 02:50 PM (r2PLg)
When the only tool in your toolbox is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at December 06, 2011 02:51 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: John Huntsman at December 06, 2011 02:51 PM (niZvt)
This is scary stuff folks, this fucking nut is in charge.
JEEEEBUS
Posted by: ontherocks at December 06, 2011 02:51 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: mike at December 06, 2011 02:51 PM (/8MOU)
Posted by: joeindc44 at December 06, 2011 02:52 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: chicago2cali at December 06, 2011 02:52 PM (sdxcF)
"Now, it’s a simple theory. And we have to admit, it’s one that speaks to our rugged individualism and our healthy skepticism of too much government. That’s in America’s DNA. And that theory fits well on a bumper sticker. (Laughter.) But here’s the problem: It doesn’t work. It has never worked. (Applause.) It didn’t work when it was tried in the decade before the Great Depression. It’s not what led to the incredible postwar booms of the ‘50s and ‘60s. And it didn’t work when we tried it during the last decade. (Applause.) I mean, understand, it’s not as if we haven’t tried this theory."
Posted by: Miss'80s at December 06, 2011 02:52 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: Schlemiel Schlimazel Hasenpfeffer Incorporated! at December 06, 2011 02:53 PM (KOQBP)
When the only tool in your toolbox is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
When all you have is a sack of retards, every problem looks like tapioca pudding. (I think lauraw came up with that one).
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 06, 2011 02:53 PM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: mike at December 06, 2011 02:53 PM (/8MOU)
We shouldnÂ’t be making it harder to afford college -- we should be a country where everyone has a chance to go and doesnÂ’t rack up $100,000 of debt just because they went. (Applause.)
Gee, let me guess who will end up paying for their Folklore degree.....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 06, 2011 02:54 PM (3wBRE)
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Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 06, 2011 02:55 PM (i6RpT)
@85: "But I feel like the Dems have reached the apex of their support, have effectively conceded a scorched earth campaign, and will lose a mass swath of voters for a generation. "
Ok, assume all that is true. The GOP will squander every advantage by "playing to the middle," score a couple of minor victories and call it a day, and not even attempt to roll back any of the great gains socialism has made during its latest ascendancy. The next iteration of socialsts will start from basically where they are now - scarily close to total victory.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at December 06, 2011 02:55 PM (jAqTK)
Then you and capitalism have a lot in common, sir, for you have never worked, either. You'll be fired by we, the voters, in less than one year.
Posted by: No Whining at December 06, 2011 02:56 PM (UzjcV)
I'd like to see Tina Korbe undressed.
She is a hot little thing, makes you forget sometimes that she's AP with tits
Posted by: kbdabear at December 06, 2011 02:56 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Penispumps4sale at December 06, 2011 02:56 PM (jsI0f)
Posted by: tasker at December 06, 2011 02:56 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Justamom at December 06, 2011 02:57 PM (Sptt8)
As many of you know, I have roots here. (Applause.) IÂ’m sure youÂ’re all familiar with the Obamas of Osawatomie. (Laughter.) Actually, I like to say that I got my name from my father, but I got my accent -- and my values -- from my mother. (Applause.) She was born in Wichita. (Applause.) Her mother grew up in Augusta. Her father was from El Dorado. So my Kansas roots run deep.
Possibly because, you know -- your Daddy ankled damned near as soon as you were born?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 06, 2011 02:58 PM (3wBRE)
Europe is on the verge of collapse.
The US President is an unrepentant socialist.
The two men most likely to be the GOP presidential nominee are both big-government Republicans who believe they can better "manage" the welfare state.
Tell me again why Ron Paul is crazy. Please, explain. I've never supported the guy, but somebody PLEASE explain to me why Mittens or Newt is a better option.
I'm finding it harder and harder to convince myself that a collapsing empire desperately needs to maintain multiple military bases all over the world. I'm sorry if that makes me a not-so-great American.
I'm starting to think that the conventional wisdom forwarded by the current two party system is "sane," then maybe it's time to go full out bat shit crazy.
Posted by: stickety at December 06, 2011 02:58 PM (FUDwf)
Posted by: Ketchup's itty-bitty 1% tits at December 06, 2011 02:58 PM (/8MOU)
Posted by: CoolCzech at December 06, 2011 02:59 PM (niZvt)
@107: "I don't give a rat's ass what their birth certificates or passports say. They aren't Americans."
Unfortunately, until you dead them, deport them, or re-brain them, their votes count the same as yours and they outnumber you by millions.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at December 06, 2011 02:59 PM (jAqTK)
Posted by: Miss'80s at December 06, 2011 02:59 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: soothie at December 06, 2011 03:00 PM (vyPsz)
Ahh, can't remember the exact quote from a commenter here, but I will try to paraphrase:
"Capitalism is the only thing that allows me to be anything other than a dirty man, squatting in the mud with a spear, protecting his woman and his meat."
Stupid fucking Obama. What an idiot. He has no idea what makes the simplest aspect of the world work. And he's fucked a Wildebeest at least twice.
Which makes me far superior to him. Just sayin'.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 06, 2011 03:01 PM (wMsKw)
I'm finding it harder and harder to convince myself that a collapsing empire desperately needs to maintain multiple military bases all over the world. I'm sorry if that makes me a not-so-great American.
There are the livelihoods of Korean tailors, English landlords, Qatari jewelers, German car dealers, Turkish cabbies, and Italian ice-cream-shop owners at stake.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 06, 2011 03:02 PM (Ec6wH)
@114: "I have been a slave to deadbeats via confiscatory taxation my entire adult life. I've tolerated it because the benefits far outweighed the costs.
If Obama gets reelected, this will change."
Yeah. Then you'll be a slave because refusing to work will get you designated a kulak, gusano, enemy of the people, counter-revolutionary and earn you a nice stint laboring in a scenic camp in either the Mojave Desert or the Alaskan interior.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at December 06, 2011 03:02 PM (jAqTK)
Posted by: soothie at December 06, 2011 03:02 PM (BUcLz)
I'm glad that Obastard is finally showing who he is.
Now all those squishy assholes who can't figure out which side they're on can have a better idea of which ideology to stand for.
And our arguments will be made clearer.
This is a good thing!
Posted by: ErikW at December 06, 2011 03:03 PM (7qg4R)
How about these schlubs take a few whacks at really failed them if they are such gullible fools: Big Education?
Posted by: No Whining at December 06, 2011 03:03 PM (UzjcV)
It's pretty clear that he has no real clue how the free market works. Every other fucking sentence was the same "some people say" strawman bullshit he always falls back on.
Also, he directly blamed the Bush tax cuts (which he renewed) for the poor economy.
There was no coherent message; just class warfare and trying to frame job-killing regulations and massive government overreach as being in the spirit of Republican Teddy Roosevelt.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 06, 2011 03:03 PM (SY2Kh)
I have come down squarely behind Perry, and will support him unequivocally. Neither Gingrich nor Romney are acceptable.
A vote of thanks to all of you who, through various maneuvers, managed to preclude one person perhaps best suited to rectifying this country's problems. I include the press, Democrats, and most painfully, all you "Conservatives" who contributed.
You disgust me, and I care nothing for the inevitable flaming--have fucking fun with it.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 06, 2011 03:04 PM (SAMxH)
Setting aside some of the horrid, but improving, living conditions and limitations of technology at the time and looking at the overall advancement of civilization, science, and technology at the time, the Victorian Era really was the last golden age of Western Civilization.
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at December 06, 2011 03:04 PM (ijjAe)
I really gotta renew my passport....
Posted by: Tami at December 06, 2011 03:04 PM (X6akg)
@125: "Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae which perpetuated the hugest housing bubble and might have affected the global economy-while cost the American taxpayer some-
150 Billion."
What are you whining about? 150 Billion doesn't even rise to a rounding error.
Posted by: Prezidizzle Obizzle at December 06, 2011 03:05 PM (jAqTK)
Posted by: Ketchup's itty-bitty 1% tits at December 06, 2011 03:06 PM (O1zPC)
Posted by: PAgirlinNC at December 06, 2011 03:07 PM (i4u9s)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 06, 2011 03:07 PM (p7SSh)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is On The Newt Train Whether Beck Likes It Or Not at December 06, 2011 03:07 PM (LpRFl)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 06, 2011 03:08 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt at December 06, 2011 03:08 PM (wfcVz)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 06, 2011 03:08 PM (4q5tP)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie Manboobs at December 06, 2011 03:09 PM (Ec6wH)
85 But I feel like the Dems have reached the apex of their support, have effectively conceded a scorched earth campaign, and will lose a mass swath of voters for a generation.
There's two schools of thought on what Obama has done these last 3 years...has he tried to revive the economy according to his illogical socialist economic theories? And failed. Or has he deliberately used illogical socialist economic theories in order to destroy the economy? And succeeded.
How many more people will be on some form of the public dole by next November? As it is half the people who work don't even pay taxes for cryan out loud. Add to that the explosion in food stamp recipients, more than two years of unemployment insurance payments, all the various welfare programs, and a majority of people might not think socialism is so bad after all.
Posted by: Boots at December 06, 2011 03:09 PM (neKzn)
Is there any place on the planet that Obama doesn't claim he's from?
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 06, 2011 03:10 PM (HY182)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 06, 2011 03:10 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: esch at December 06, 2011 03:11 PM (RZJk8)
Seriously. Racist.
Actually, Obama's a fascist in many ways. He has Mussolini's view of economics. And then there's all the iconography.
Then go ahead & call me a racist.
I really don't give 2 shits what his black half is doing.
But his white half disgusts me.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2011 03:11 PM (/ALRr)
Posted by: soothie at December 06, 2011 03:12 PM (GcwH1)
Posted by: Vic at December 06, 2011 03:13 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: soothie at December 06, 2011 03:14 PM (yhYn1)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is On The Newt Train Whether Beck Likes It Or Not at December 06, 2011 03:15 PM (LpRFl)
Posted by: CoolCzech at December 06, 2011 03:15 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: soothie at December 06, 2011 07:00 PM (vyPsz)
Not American Exceptionalism nor Manifest Destiny. The rich stole all the natural wealth (robber barons) and then created and perpetuated an ogliarchy to protect their position, expoiting the indigenous peoples, all immigrants, and the lower socio-economic classes. The only redress is social justice and economic equality.
Posted by: DOE Manual for High School History Education at December 06, 2011 03:16 PM (4q5tP)
Is there any place on the planet that Obama doesn't claim he's from?
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 06, 2011 07:10 PM (HY182)
I'm a youngster compared to you old crotchety bastards but I do take comfort in the fact that one day, I may be able to piss on his grave.
Where his presidential library will be located I don't know but I would like to show my disrespect.
Posted by: ErikW at December 06, 2011 03:16 PM (7qg4R)
Thanks, Dad!
White House to Push Cordray Appointment to Consumer Bureau
The White House will begin a campaign Monday to push for the confirmation of Richard Cordray to lead the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
[...]
Obama is scheduled to speak Tuesday in Osawatomie, Kan., where he will discuss themes connected with the push to confirm Cordray, according to Earnest.
“The argument in favor of confirming Mr. Cordray ... dovetails nicely with the speech President Obama will deliver on Tuesday ... [on] his vision for America where everyone engages in fair play, everyone does their fair share and everyone gets a fair shot,” he said.
Posted by: Miss'80s at December 06, 2011 03:17 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: PAgirlinNC at December 06, 2011 03:17 PM (i4u9s)
Obama said "trickle-down economics". He did not say "capitalism".
Capitalism is a wonderful thing, but not when the middle class and below are locked out of a living wage and a future because all they have to hope for is a little "trickle-down".
In the 1950's, the US had the best economy in its history - back when the top tax rate was 91%. In those days, the wealthy CEOs and business owners reinvested the profits back into the factories, machinery and workers pay and benefits. They did it to avoid paying that 91% to the government.
Nowadays, there is nothing to prevent the less socially-conscious (or patriotic) of those owners from taking the money and running off to Monte Carlo.
I can't understand why so many poor, ignorant "conservatives" vote against their own self-interests by supporting the wealthy elite in the hope that a little piss will "trickle-down".
Posted by: Phred Phlintstone at December 06, 2011 03:18 PM (ox4EC)
Posted by: Ketchup's itty-bitty 1% tits at December 06, 2011 03:18 PM (O1zPC)
Posted by: steevy at December 06, 2011 03:18 PM (7WJOC)
Posted by: soothie at December 06, 2011 03:18 PM (vyPsz)
Posted by: Deety nitpicks %s at December 06, 2011 03:19 PM (Pm8ax)
Posted by: movigique at December 06, 2011 03:19 PM (Cepxj)
Posted by: LGoPs at December 06, 2011 03:20 PM (+Uv5V)
When the only tool in your toolbox is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at December 06, 2011 06:51 PM (QKKT0)
Stolen from another one of you morons: When your only tool is a hammer, a sickle is usually close at hand.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 06, 2011 03:20 PM (G+B5p)
Posted by: CoolCzech at December 06, 2011 03:20 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: steevy at December 06, 2011 03:21 PM (7WJOC)
Remind me again how 9% unemployment along with massive debt and deficits is in our "own self-interests", douchebag.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 06, 2011 03:22 PM (SY2Kh)
I don't think that's true.
Most people I meet, day to day, are honest to a fault, hard working people with good will to their fellow man
The only conclusion I can draw, based upon my experience, is that about 60% of us are fucking dumb as rocks
Posted by: Deety nitpicks %s at December 06, 2011 07:19 PM (Pm8ax)
Hey, let's meet one of them now:
Posted by: Phred Phlintstone at December 06, 2011 07:18 PM (ox4EC)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 06, 2011 03:22 PM (4q5tP)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 06, 2011 03:22 PM (i6RpT)
@220: "The time soon approaches when the only thing left to do will be to go full on Roman on the Left. Either that or surrender."
We've already ordered the white flags for you peasants.
Posted by: Your GOP Elites at December 06, 2011 03:23 PM (jAqTK)
Posted by: soothie at December 06, 2011 03:23 PM (vzLhi)
Posted by: Vic at December 06, 2011 07:13 PM (YdQQY)
The troubling detail that his parents, grandparents and mentors were all communists was only a warning to us and not the MFM.
Anyone that asked themselves what exactly was a community organizer anyway, and then stumbled on Saul Alinsky in only cursory research got all doubt removed real quick.
Posted by: ontherocks at December 06, 2011 03:23 PM (HBqDo)
We started becoming a socialist country in the early 1900s with the beginning of the progressive era. We achieved full socialism with FDR in the 30s. In the 60s began pushing in Fascism with the government controlling every aspect of buisness and private life through regulatory agencies.
In the 70s we started full on communism with the government taking private property.
We have not had actual capitalism in this country for over 100 years.
Posted by: Vic at December 06, 2011 03:23 PM (YdQQY)
But....BUUUSSSHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Phreddy Phucker at December 06, 2011 03:23 PM (s7mIC)
In the 1950's, the US had the best economy in its history - back when the top tax rate was 91%.
the 50s had recession after recession dumbass, learn your History
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is On The Newt Train Whether Beck Likes It Or Not at December 06, 2011 03:24 PM (LpRFl)
As someone stated before, democrat [leftwing] ecconomic theory leads to Greece.
Greece: where taxes are too high, legitimate business is forced under the table, and government workers get paid full benefits and wages for working 4 hours a day.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 06, 2011 03:24 PM (O7ksG)
Posted by: steevy at December 06, 2011 03:24 PM (7WJOC)
Posted by: CoolCzech at December 06, 2011 03:25 PM (niZvt)
The media has still yet to tell us who this asshole really is.
But they lecture on and on about Newt gingrich's fucking underwear.
It is unbelieveable what is going on. Will historians report this shit accurately?
LOL.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz at December 06, 2011 03:25 PM (LWXG/)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 06, 2011 03:25 PM (bxiXv)
We've already ordered the white flags for you peasants.
That's fine. As long as the words "Americans Don't Serf" are also on the flag.
Posted by: LGoPs at December 06, 2011 03:26 PM (+Uv5V)
We need to fight any IMF, Treasury Dept or Fed Reserve EU bailouts with every fiber of our being.
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at December 06, 2011 03:27 PM (qXVPD)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2011 03:27 PM (/ALRr)
Posted by: soothie at December 06, 2011 03:27 PM (8dspl)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 06, 2011 03:28 PM (bxiXv)
He knows the rage his remarks will cause and he can't afford for us to live long enough to vote him out.
Posted by: Pecos, Perry in a blaze of Glory at December 06, 2011 03:28 PM (2Gb0y)
After the entire rest of the world had been bombed into ruin by two World Wars and we were the only remaining industrial power to sell people stuff they needed to buy. Anyone that goes on about the post-war boom without noting this fact is either an idiot or a dishonest shyster.
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at December 06, 2011 03:29 PM (ijjAe)
Posted by: soothie at December 06, 2011 07:27 PM (8dspl)
False. I can attest otherwise.
Posted by: NYC Patrol Car at December 06, 2011 03:29 PM (4q5tP)
Posted by: real joe at December 06, 2011 03:29 PM (w7Lv+)
"spread the wealth", "bitter clingers", corpse-men and the rest didn't do it? How unmasked can someone get?
Posted by: really ... at December 06, 2011 03:29 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Roy at December 06, 2011 03:31 PM (tiOTz)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at December 06, 2011 03:32 PM (ijjAe)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2011 03:32 PM (/ALRr)
Tina Sez: "He honestly argued for a welfare state and directly stated his disbelief in trickle-down economics. For once — again, except in a few places — this wasn’t conservative rhetoric to cover up progressive policies. It was progressive rhetoric to promote progressive policies. "
That's why, in 2008, some Repubs and independents voted for him. Obama fooled a lot of people. And Krugman, who claims Obama is a centirst, is a fucking liar. Krugman will say any nugget of crap for his beloved leftwing prog-king. But we know that.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 06, 2011 03:32 PM (O7ksG)
Posted by: Wink Martindale at December 06, 2011 03:32 PM (2fC2f)
Posted by: West at December 06, 2011 03:32 PM (aZLpo)
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 06, 2011 03:33 PM (O7ksG)
________
Is that when the ruling class lines up to ogle the babes?
Posted by: Anachronda at December 06, 2011 03:34 PM (IrbU4)
He cited the example of a company — Marvin Windows and Doors — that voluntarily refuses to lay off its employees — but confusedly seemed to think more government involvement would help to proliferate that kind of company.
Why, he's stumbled on the solution to the unemployment problem: Outlaw layoffs!
(Haven't read all the other comments yet, so I apologize if it's already been said.)
Posted by: Secundus at December 06, 2011 03:34 PM (UAzle)
Who does He think He is saying we Can't?
Has He caused so much legislation that cannot be reversed?
our party better back this guy down.
Posted by: willow at December 06, 2011 03:34 PM (h+qn8)
I can fly the space shuttle from a device that costs me less than half a weeks pay. I have a library of music on another device that cost less than half a days pay.
Which system failed, comrade?
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2011 03:35 PM (4Kl5M)
Today's Sesame Street has been brought to you by the number 4 and the letter F.
Posted by: Joshin in Earnest at December 06, 2011 03:35 PM (KOQBP)
The only possible reason to find this gratifying is to have had lingering doubts in your own ability to discern important details.
Unfortunately that's a chief failing of the many of he younger, less world wise useful idiots that have had critical thinking broomed from their public education.
Posted by: ontherocks at December 06, 2011 03:36 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at December 06, 2011 03:36 PM (7hwUm)
Posted by: ErikW at December 06, 2011 03:38 PM (7qg4R)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at December 06, 2011 07:36 PM (7hwUm)
Posted by: Self-hating, guilt-filled white liberal at December 06, 2011 03:39 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: tasker at December 06, 2011 03:39 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Ketchup, leader of the 99% at December 06, 2011 03:40 PM (2fC2f)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at December 06, 2011 03:41 PM (7hwUm)
Posted by: tasker at December 06, 2011 03:42 PM (r2PLg)
Back then, the ways you could go about deducting income was legion- nobody with a tax accountant or lawyer actually paid anything remotely close to 90%. When Reagan lowered the rate, he also removed a lot of deductions that allowed people to shelter a very substantial amount of income.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 06, 2011 03:43 PM (SY2Kh)
@252: " I proudly fly my white flag!
CULPEPPER MINUTE MEN
LIBERTY OR DEATH
DON'T TREAD ON ME"
Let's see...that's two clicks for windage.....got it.
Now, just wait for him to pick up a baby
Posted by: Lon Horiuchi With The Government's Rebuttal at December 06, 2011 03:44 PM (jAqTK)
ah the days of old when we couldn't decide,what He was.. is he statist, marxist, communist, socialist.
Posted by: willow at December 06, 2011 03:44 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at December 06, 2011 03:45 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: willow at December 06, 2011 03:45 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: willow at December 06, 2011 07:44 PM (h+qn
The New Party. He unpanted himself with that years ago.
Posted by: really ... at December 06, 2011 03:46 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Secundus at December 06, 2011 03:47 PM (UAzle)
yeah but it is easier to argue when He explains himself to all.
he is usually weasily when not speaking with his groupies.
Posted by: willow at December 06, 2011 03:47 PM (h+qn8)
Conversly, when libs like Obama want to raise the income tax rates, they raise the rates without putting in any deductions.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 06, 2011 03:48 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at December 06, 2011 03:48 PM (AZGON)
His governing philosophy has been to move the US to the Left wherever and whenever he can. Incremental when necessary, in large steps when possible (Obamacare.)
Obama's great insight was that if he spoke vaguely and in coded language and smiled a lot that Americans wouldn't realize what a hard-core leftist he was.
He was right.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at December 06, 2011 03:48 PM (QcFbt)
136I incorporated a new business but killed it when the SCOAMF was elected. I don't really need to go back to work yet. Why should I exhaust myself and take time away from my family to bust a bracket and give up half to the redistibutor n chief?
Plus, the grad students I was interviewing drank so much SCOAMF-flavored koolaid it would've churned my stomach to work with them.
I could totally groove on a flat tax and would merrily work my butt off, but that will never happen. Still, kids are bigger now so maybe I'll get back to it if/when the SCOAMF is no more.
I hope you do get back to it Justamom. We need more people like you.
Posted by: learflyer at December 06, 2011 03:49 PM (9vscO)
Posted by: willow at December 06, 2011 03:49 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 06, 2011 07:43 PM (SY2Kh)
I think even mundane things like cigarettes were once tax-deductible.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 06, 2011 03:49 PM (UR5vq)
Where would you rather live? North Korea or South Korea?
Where would you rather live? East Germany 1970 or West Germany 1970?
Then shut the fuck up.
I rest my economics for dummies case, your honor.
Posted by: Triggerman at December 06, 2011 03:49 PM (NBj0d)
@271: "Which system failed, comrade?"
Yours, comrade. Vile you ver toyink viz your zo-precious gadgets, ve conquered ze fuckink vorld. Ve taught your children to zink chust like us. Ve took control ov your entertainsment. Ve took control ov your government. Ve took control of your financial zyztems. And ve built an army ov your fellow citizens to fight for us.
Posted by: Zombie Lenin at December 06, 2011 03:49 PM (jAqTK)
Posted by: tasker at December 06, 2011 03:52 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: joeindc44 at December 06, 2011 03:53 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at December 06, 2011 03:53 PM (7hwUm)
Now, just wait for him to pick up a baby
As soon as his finger touches the trigger..........
Posted by: The guy in the woods 250 yds behind lon Horiuchi at December 06, 2011 03:55 PM (/ALRr)
I'm staying with Perry.
I just don't like Washington types and RINO asses who tell me everything I want to hear.
Fuck that.
Posted by: ErikW at December 06, 2011 03:55 PM (7qg4R)
Posted by: Stephana at December 06, 2011 03:56 PM (530OM)
So true, 305. Obama sees private enterprise as 'enemy territory', and the 3 whole months he had a job, he said "he felt like a spy behind enemy lines".
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 06, 2011 03:59 PM (O7ksG)
Posted by: Henry Ford at December 06, 2011 03:59 PM (i6RpT)
A few weeks ago I read an article wherein Obama was oging to abandon the Non-college educated whites and move left.
Well, he did move left. Far Left. Now more than ever the Republican need to focus on the issues and the failures of his policies and his broken promises. His base this time will be much less trusting, and much less motivated.
A key to a Republican Victory will be at the grass roots level, out organizing the Democratis Machines and getting out the Conservative and the RINO vote.
ABO!
http://zapit.nu/SCOAMF Read allthree pages!
Posted by: lazy american 99%er fool/clown clinging bitterly to my guns at December 06, 2011 04:00 PM (wN82N)
A lot of people actually deserve that North Korea model. And I hate to say it, but I think they're going to bring it to all of us before too long.
Posted by: Aaron at December 06, 2011 04:00 PM (Tlix5)
Posted by: The World's Most Clueless Idiot at December 06, 2011 04:00 PM (aVGMa)
Posted by: joeindc44 at December 06, 2011 04:01 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: joeindc44 at December 06, 2011 04:02 PM (QxSug)
And Europe is Obama's lodestar. That's where he wants to take us. To the extent we haven't gotten there yet, it's because Americans are soft, lazy bitter clingers who hate other sorts of people (and their politico-economic systems).
You talkin to ME, Bub?
Posted by: lazy american 99%er fool/clown clinging bitterly to my guns at December 06, 2011 04:04 PM (wN82N)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 06, 2011 04:04 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: V, Ulyanov ( call me "Lenin' ) at December 06, 2011 04:05 PM (UqKQV)
Where would you rather live? East Germany 1970 or West Germany 1970?
Then shut the fuck up."
That asks the wrong question. Who gives a shit what the peasantry would rather. They exist to support us and they count for nothing. The real question is "Where would you rather rule with untrammeled power?"
Posted by: Department of the Treasury at December 06, 2011 04:05 PM (jAqTK)
Posted by: Triggerman at December 06, 2011 04:05 PM (NBj0d)
Posted by: V, Ulyanov ( call me "Lenin' ) at December 06, 2011 04:06 PM (UqKQV)
If only Rick, Newt, and Mitt were more like these guys in the political arena. Dishing it out, giving no quarter.
1:38 - taking on the MFM press corps
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 06, 2011 04:06 PM (4q5tP)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 06, 2011 04:06 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Fat Boy at December 06, 2011 04:07 PM (e8kgV)
@303: The guy in the woods 250 yds behind lon Horiuchi
You've never showed up yet. The last batch of you lot who deigned deny us our will lost rather badly: 80-4. But hey, they died warm.
Posted by: Lon Horiuchi at December 06, 2011 04:09 PM (jAqTK)
No one paid the 90 percent tax rate--NO one. Many loopholes, there were
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at December 06, 2011 04:10 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: VRWC Agent at December 06, 2011 04:12 PM (JXaAZ)
@308: "Well, he did move left. Far Left. Now more than ever the Republican need to focus on the issues and the failures of his policies and his broken promises. His base this time will be much less trusting, and much less motivated."
No, no, no. Now *WE* move left and capture the voters that Obama (PBUH) left behind. You clearly don't understand politics at all.
Posted by: The GOP Elites at December 06, 2011 04:12 PM (jAqTK)
Posted by: VRWC Agent at December 06, 2011 04:12 PM (JXaAZ)
Posted by: The Law Abiding American at December 06, 2011 04:12 PM (NBj0d)
Posted by: Wink Martindale at December 06, 2011 04:13 PM (2fC2f)
@319 First? We kill all the lawyers.
Posted by: The Law Abiding American at December 06, 2011 04:14 PM (NBj0d)
Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at December 06, 2011 04:14 PM (6IReR)
Posted by: lazy american 99%er fool/clown clinging bitterly to my guns at December 06, 2011 08:04 PM (wN82N)
----------------------
God damn right, we are. You haven't dared stand up to us since 1865. You aren't even a remotely credible threat.
Posted by: The Powers That Be at December 06, 2011 04:14 PM (jAqTK)
Posted by: lazy american 99%er fool/clown clinging bitterly to my guns at December 06, 2011 04:15 PM (wN82N)
Posted by: bverwey at December 06, 2011 04:16 PM (ODMdq)
“The argument in favor of confirming Mr. Cordray ... dovetails nicely with the speech President Obama will deliver on Tuesday ... [on] his vision for America where everyone engages in fair play, everyone does their fair share and everyone gets a fair shot,” he said.
Really? Has Obama actually met any real people? You can't get Kindergarteners to do this, and it is just downhill from there.
Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlInSeattle at December 06, 2011 04:18 PM (RZ8pf)
We need to be talking about economic freedom, how it has always been the driving force behind American economic performance and innovation, and how the government is strangling the economy.
California is Experiment A in the lab.
Posted by: Arms Merchant at December 06, 2011 04:18 PM (kPT11)
Posted by: CoolCzech at December 06, 2011 04:19 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: The Law Abiding American at December 06, 2011 08:12 PM (NBj0d)
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Bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh, wow...you're serious! Let us laugh even harder! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
We already know that YOU. WON'T. DO. ANYTHING. Oh sure, a few of you may accidentally martyr yourselves thinking that your stupid little stand will inspire others to rise up. So sorry to disappoint you - won't happen. Your measure has been taken and you have been found not merely wanting, but utterly lacking. You clowns sign up for permits and then beg to have your money refunded - you're not even worthy of our contempt anymore.
Posted by: The Powers That Be at December 06, 2011 04:20 PM (jAqTK)
"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist..." .
Posted by: General John Sedgwick at December 06, 2011 04:22 PM (/ALRr)
That's because they are racist Republican Kindergartners, clearly. (sarc)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 06, 2011 04:23 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: USS Diversity at December 06, 2011 04:23 PM (PddVe)
Posted by: joeindc44 at December 06, 2011 04:24 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: joeindc44 at December 06, 2011 04:25 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 06, 2011 04:25 PM (jx2j9)
We already live in a socialist country. Obama is not talking about socialism, he is talking about communism. The state ownership of all production and property. You will be allowed what you need. You will be forced to provide what you can produce.
Let me explain. I belonged to a forum where someone started a thread on taxation. He asked for everyone to investigate taxation. The thread starter began with the typical taxes, like income, ss, medicare, etc at all the differing levels, property, sales, etc. He started with about 150 distinct taxes. The last time I looked, it was about 15,000 types of distinct taxes.
Within the thread, I asked for people to look at what they made, and begin to estimate what their effective taxation was at. It turned out, that those that contributed were paying in the neighborhood of 60-75% effective taxation rates. This did not include things like inflation or other inestimable types of taxation.
I would say that we are already a socialist nation. We really do not own our property, allodial title no longer exists. We only rent our property.
We are so far away from a free market/individual rights society that communism is only a footstep away. If you can believe the conspiracy theorist, agenda 21 will take us the rest of the way.
Oh well, viva la resistance!
Posted by: David Kramer at December 06, 2011 04:25 PM (OkW7e)
It helps to grow up liberal and educated, knowing people from all walks of life, and from all over the world. It really is perverted that the Ivy League did this to us. Do you like Angela Davis, or bell hooks? Well we got this black guy who was raised Communist, and we can teach him to hide his Whitey hating ways, and act and talk like any wealthy White Angelo-Saxon Protestant.
"Manchurian Candidate" is more accurate than Sly Stallone could possibly know.
Posted by: KirkCameronLeftMeBehind at December 06, 2011 04:26 PM (iZ6fL)
Posted by: Barky McMocchachino at December 06, 2011 04:26 PM (yujf+)
Remember his promise not to sign a bill unless we had 5 days to look at it?
Obama pledged to reduce bills rushed through Congress and to the president before the public has the opportunity to review them, Obama "will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days."
FAIL! http://zapit.nu/SCOAMF
Posted by: lazy american 99%er fool/clown clinging bitterly to my guns at December 06, 2011 04:26 PM (wN82N)
Posted by: Ben at December 06, 2011 04:27 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: David Kramer at December 06, 2011 04:28 PM (OkW7e)
Truth: Socialism and communism have never worked.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 06, 2011 04:28 PM (O7ksG)
obama promised to undo the "Bush" tax rate reductions that helped the economy under Bush. I'm ok with that broken promise.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 06, 2011 04:29 PM (O7ksG)
Posted by: some dope at December 06, 2011 04:29 PM (+kznc)
Posted by: cajun carrot at December 06, 2011 04:29 PM (5SaLu)
Posted by: General John Sedgwick at December 06, 2011 08:22 PM (/ALRr)
----------------------------
Scoreboard, peasant.
2nd Amendment says right to keep and bear arms "shall not be infringed". We say, you can have what we allow, where we allow, and how we allow.
Nice home ya got there - our brethren in the Courts just said we can take it for whatever purpose we want. Here, have a pittance in compensation.Your history, language - utterly malleable to our will. And here's the fun part - you pay for us to indoctrinate your kids.
Your meager earnings from your own sweat? We take what we want, when we want, and use it to fund more means of oppressing you.
You think your vote counts? We pick the candidates.
Rule of law? You follow it; we do as we please.
Need a job to survive? Nah, we'll regulate it out of existence, send it off to a foreign country, and import a whole new class of peasants who will do it cheaper and whine less.
All this and more, little lamb. And still you grovel, secure in your "belief" that you're free and that you matter. It would be cute and endearing, if we cared anything about you.
Posted by: The Powers That Be at December 06, 2011 04:30 PM (jAqTK)
Posted by: cajun carrot at December 06, 2011 08:29 PM (5SaLu)
Two jobs and going to night school. No time for drinking.
Posted by: Barbarian at December 06, 2011 04:31 PM (EL+OC)
I mean we have been paying for their freedom, and much of their protection. who pays ?
who bails out europe when America is just like europe or worse cuba or venezuela..
Posted by: willow at December 06, 2011 04:32 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Ben at December 06, 2011 08:27 PM (UvdzB)
Thanks Ben, I like to listen to debate while blogging.
Posted by: David Kramer at December 06, 2011 04:32 PM (OkW7e)
Posted by: Wodeshed at December 06, 2011 04:33 PM (yujf+)
@333 God damn right, we are. You haven't dared stand up to us since 1865. You aren't even a remotely credible threat.
Posted by: The Powers That Be at December 06, 2011 08:14 PM (jAqTK)
Sorry Sir. Please don't take it personally. I meant nothing by it. Just following RNC orders.
Posted by: lazy american 99%er fool/clown clinging bitterly to my guns at December 06, 2011 04:34 PM (wN82N)
Posted by: willow at December 06, 2011 04:34 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: joeindc44 at December 06, 2011 08:25 PM (QxSug)
1940 on the promise of not getting into war
1944 because of the war.
He had 1 good re-election for him, 1936, over a total unknown. Once facing actual opposition, Republicans started to regain their footing, flipping the House and Senate in 1946 and coming close to axing Truman in 1948. Truman won out but did not run for reelection in 1952- Ike carried it easily.
Posted by: CAC at December 06, 2011 04:34 PM (BUy5d)
Posted by: USS Diversity at December 06, 2011 04:35 PM (PddVe)
All true. What makes it particularly ironic, however, is that your rube and crazy blocs are hell bent on reelecting Barack.
Think about it: Right now you're leading candidate is Gingrich. Gingrich's greatest legacy as House Speaker was reelecting Clinton in 1996 on account of turning off the middle with those government shutdowns. Then Gingrich doubled down on stupid and elected a bunch of Democrats and simultaneously defeated a lot of Republicans, in 1998 and 2000, as a result of the failed impeachment trial and of Gingrich's loose ethics and ultimately his quitting in disgrace.
If you nominate Gingrich he'll complete the lifetime trifecta by reelecting Barack. Thing is, your rube and crazy demographics are so numbingly ignorant and irrational they won't be able even grasp the irony. Heh.
Posted by: David Axelrod at December 06, 2011 04:38 PM (f8XyF)
Posted by: joeindc44 at December 06, 2011 04:38 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: joeindc44 at December 06, 2011 04:38 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: joeindc44 - the one true conservative at December 06, 2011 04:39 PM (QxSug)
Something heartening:
Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin have shifted over 10 points to the right in polling (and voting) since 2008.
New Hampshire, with at least 1 GOP candidate? 19 points.
President Obama's suckery has not gone unnoticed, the point now is to grab the bull by the horns in the areas MOST affected by it- Northeastern PA, Wisconsin outside of Madison, Macomb and Oakland counties in Michigan, the Vegas & Reno suburbs in Nevada. To hell with trying to win back the Bush states- establish Obama's awfulness behind the blue line and he limps to a loss instead of races neck and neck.
Posted by: CAC at December 06, 2011 04:39 PM (BUy5d)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 06, 2011 04:40 PM (ahtq2)
I would be impressed if I didn't remember him as Speaker standing at the podium saying that he would not drop the China Missile Scandal questioning, and that it would go on and on until he got answers.
Then he never said a word about it, probably because he was having the affair with his eventual second wife.
So I don't put too much trust in promises of what he is going to do.
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 06, 2011 04:40 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: joeindc44 - the one true conservative at December 06, 2011 04:40 PM (QxSug)
@ 365 He had 1 good re-election for him, 1936, over a total unknown.
Unknown? I am known all over the galaxy! And by the way how did I lose when I was polling so well?
Posted by: Alf "I am not the TV Alien" Landon at December 06, 2011 04:41 PM (wN82N)
It... went about as well for the mugger as you'd expect.
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at December 06, 2011 04:44 PM (vQfJ3)
Carter was an idiot in regards to those in the world that HATE those that do not believe in the same things they do.
By the way, coming off the era of the likes of Nixon using government to force price controls, it was an era of big government control. And Carter failed to see the problems inherent in inflation and interest problems.
It was an era that I grew up in at the high school level. I to this day remember the day when over the loudspeakers, we were informed when Reagan was shot. Nowadays, they would not do such a thing would they? Or would they?
Posted by: David Kramer at December 06, 2011 04:45 PM (OkW7e)
Oh wait, we conservatives are allowed to have differing opinions and the 11th commandment does not apply!
Posted by: David Kramer at December 06, 2011 04:47 PM (OkW7e)
Posted by: joeindc44 - the one true conservative at December 06, 2011 04:47 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: A. Fufkin at December 06, 2011 04:48 PM (WITVL)
"Take Back the Capitol is, in part, an outgrowth of the movement to protect collective bargaining that started in Wisconsin and Ohio.
The American Dream Movement organized the event, with funding from many sources, including MoveOn.org and the Service Employees International Union (SEIU)."
Posted by: Miss'80s at December 06, 2011 04:49 PM (d6QMz)
But, maybe that's not so bad? Because you know what happens when the commies take over? The first thing they do is shoot all the lawyers! And if they miss any of you, I'll do it myself. Now let's see if we can get this small-brained preznit to change his mind!
Posted by: Larry The Liquidator at December 06, 2011 04:50 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 06, 2011 04:52 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at December 06, 2011 04:52 PM (azHfB)
The conservatives make up 40% of the nation.There is another 40% of the country that is independant. There is a remainder that is liberal.
Now, if you think about the productive within the country, say the 53% that actually pay federal taxation, consider how many of those are actual taxpayers, that are not part of the public work force.
What would happen if the conservatives actually went Galt? Think about it, the socialists in our midst have been attempting to destroy our system. What if we helped them? Has ANYONE ever actually broached the idea?
Ann Barnhardt has stated that she is done feeding the system. I have broached the topic.
What say you Ace commenters?
Posted by: David Kramer at December 06, 2011 04:54 PM (OkW7e)
Posted by: The Probability of Miracles ePub at December 06, 2011 04:55 PM (RT/8X)
Congress will easily override his veto if it comes to that.
Posted by: Miss'80s at December 06, 2011 04:55 PM (d6QMz)
Amen, how dare he criticize us!?11@@?!1
RINO!
Posted by: joeindc44 - the one true conservative at December 06, 2011 08:47 PM (QxSug)
You did read the rest of my comment?
Posted by: David Kramer at December 06, 2011 04:56 PM (OkW7e)
How to survive through those years? I did a lot of crafts, learned to cook some recipes, watched a lot of soap operas, and gave up on paying attention to politics. It was a very depressing time.
The real turnaround in public thinking came, unbelievably, from the US Hockey Team's win over the Soviets at the Olypics in Lake Placid. It was really a booster to a country totally demoralized. Then Reagan came along, and I was at the polling place at 6AM to vote for him. I still thought of myself as a democrat, but I hated Carter so much I decided that Reagan couldn't be any worse, and at least he was optimistic and loved the country and wouldn't be an embarrassment.
Haven't voted for a single dem since 1980. Never will.
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 06, 2011 04:56 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: The Probability of Miracles ePub at December 06, 2011 04:56 PM (RT/8X)
You know, Morris Dees did some good work back in the day, getting rid of a potential American SA.
Now I'd like to see him cruise the gay bars and universities and root out the SS.
Posted by: KirkCameronLeftMeBehind at December 06, 2011 04:57 PM (iZ6fL)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at December 06, 2011 04:58 PM (Te1S8)
The guy whose economics have destroyed two million jobs is claiming the economics that created twenty million jobs don't work.
Pretty much.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 06, 2011 04:59 PM (O7ksG)
Posted by: Larry the Liquidator at December 06, 2011 04:59 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Big Mo at December 06, 2011 05:00 PM (MkaSC)
Who is John Galt?
Posted by: John Galt at December 06, 2011 08:58 PM (/ALRr)
Maybe not go Galt, but let us say that all conservatives just refuse to do any business with any leftists and refuse to do business with the government? If we do not give the government the capital, would we have the ability to just avoid the problem of the general economy?
By the way, I bought the DVD the other day, I thought that it was frelling awesome!
Posted by: David Kramer at December 06, 2011 05:01 PM (OkW7e)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 06, 2011 05:02 PM (p7SSh)
I like this hotair quote:
"But, on the whole, the president was pretty transparent about his belief that big government makes everything better. The speech reads like a compelling essay in defense of government interference in free markets at every level. Read it and youÂ’ll wonder why weÂ’re not rushing to increase unemployment benefits, hike taxes, tighten regulations and expand government programs. But then youÂ’ll remember the presidentÂ’s own advice: If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is."
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 06, 2011 05:03 PM (O7ksG)
Posted by: The Guv at December 06, 2011 05:03 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Racefan at December 06, 2011 05:03 PM (vqDgb)
Posted by: Ben at December 06, 2011 08:27 PM (UvdzB)
They need to be careful in that control room, Ewoks love to chew on exposed wiring.
Posted by: garrett at December 06, 2011 05:04 PM (fEfoG)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at December 06, 2011 08:58 PM (Te1S
I am also proud of Precedent Obama, he is setting the example for everyone in the next 50 years to never.......ever......ever to emulate.
Posted by: David Kramer at December 06, 2011 05:04 PM (OkW7e)
Posted by: izoneguy at December 06, 2011 05:05 PM (i6Neb)
Posted by: Buck O. Phive at December 06, 2011 05:07 PM (R2ShP)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 06, 2011 09:02 PM (p7SSh)]
I have a bad feeling that Obama is JUST LIKE Roosevelt. I have been in arguments with those that think the New Deal President was a divine individual that had to steal from everyone to support the system. I can see the current system doing the same thing. Seizing anything that they can to keep the system going.
Posted by: David Kramer at December 06, 2011 05:08 PM (OkW7e)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at December 06, 2011 05:09 PM (Te1S8)
Posted by: barry potus at December 06, 2011 05:11 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at December 06, 2011 05:12 PM (AZGON)
since I skipped the first 400 comments...
It would appear that BHO ripped off the mask today.
To Infinity and Beyond!!
I am Socialist Mannnnn!!!
Posted by: jake at December 06, 2011 05:13 PM (Sdl9x)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at December 06, 2011 05:13 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: blue star at December 06, 2011 05:14 PM (wMV/W)
Posted by: Pretty Little Liars 10: Ruthless epub at December 06, 2011 05:15 PM (/Xfyg)
Posted by: blue star at December 06, 2011 09:14 PM (wMV/W)
Go back to earlier version of Firefox. I have an earlier version and it works fine. With my newer computer with Windows 7 I was having all kinds of problems with Firefox, switched to an older version and everything works fine.
Posted by: David Kramer at December 06, 2011 05:16 PM (OkW7e)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at December 06, 2011 05:17 PM (vQfJ3)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 06, 2011 05:18 PM (FIE/L)
We’ve had two perfect “experiments” in Communism vs Capitalism. The West/East Germany divide and the North/South Korea divide. No significant differences in populations or resources. The only difference is/was the ruling ideologies.
any guess to these almost perfect case studdies?
Posted by: jake at December 06, 2011 05:19 PM (Sdl9x)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at December 06, 2011 09:09 PM (Te1S
God Bless ya. life must be tuff for you.
Posted by: Racefan at December 06, 2011 05:19 PM (vqDgb)
We’ve had two perfect “experiments” in Communism vs Capitalism. The West/East Germany divide and the North/South Korea divide. No significant differences in populations or resources. The only difference is/was the ruling ideologies.
any guess to these almost perfect case studdies?
Posted by: jake at December 06, 2011 09:19 PM (Sdl9x)
Yeah, but they did not have the WON!
Posted by: David Kramer at December 06, 2011 05:20 PM (OkW7e)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at December 06, 2011 09:09 PM (Te1S
God Bless ya. life must be tuff for you.
Posted by: Racefan at December 06, 2011 09:19 PM (vqDgb)
Life is hard. Life is extremely hard when you are an idiot.
Posted by: David Kramer at December 06, 2011 05:21 PM (OkW7e)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 06, 2011 05:23 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at December 06, 2011 09:09 PM
hey babe, I quit
There is no way I'm going into the jungle on your legs and bikini line after not seeing me for the last 5 months
ps, your pits stink too!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein's razor at December 06, 2011 05:23 PM (Sdl9x)
But somehow they think the USA will be the nation that finally gets communism right. Why? Well, because we're Americans!
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at December 06, 2011 05:24 PM (vQfJ3)
Posted by: garrett at December 06, 2011 05:25 PM (fEfoG)
Posted by: A Conflict of Interest AudioBook at December 06, 2011 05:29 PM (7cL99)
Posted by: David Kramer at December 06, 2011 08:54 PM (OkW7e)
Weekly. At least.
Yep, I just got screwed on a restaurant I built in New Mexico. 60 days just came and went for my bill. Just reached the general and he told me I have to wait because the owner is not paying him. The owner has paid all the subs down in NM but because I am a sub of the General, I have to wait. Now the General is telling me the owner is giving the General crap about his bill. I subbed as the site superintendant. If it was not for me, that thing would have taken an extra 3-4 weeks to open.
Man, I spent 7 weeks 7 days/wk and 12-14 hr days building that thing. If that owner is a dem I am putting a lien on that building tomorrow!
Posted by: David Kramer at December 06, 2011 05:32 PM (OkW7e)
I do the first one now. I do the second one as much as possible.
Always cracks me up when people start to say that "they were talking to their lefty friends."
What lefty friends? Don't have any. Don't want any. Don't need/want the drama.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2011 05:33 PM (/ALRr)
@339 :-D Pitch perfect.
Posted by: The Law Abiding American at December 06, 2011 05:36 PM (NBj0d)
It's easy to think that Americans voted for this POS of a president. But the truth is that they were SOLD this POS in disguise. The entire campaign for POTUS was a masquarade that was gift wrapped with tinsel and bows by the leftist media that thought they knew what was in our best interest and felt ENTITLED to whatever liberties they needed to take to sell us their bill of goods. Well it's not even midnight and the mask has fallen off.
Folks it's time to focus our goals as conservatives. We no longer simply need to recapture the White House and Congress. It's now imperative that we also expose the media for the crimes they've committed and trace the money back to it's roots. George Soros and all his little minions needs to be revealed to the public along with their ambitions and intentions. I have NO doubt that Americans ( not the illegals but true American Citizens) will be outraged and motivated to action IF and WHEN the media are revealed for the pretentious and foolish part they have played in this crime against democracy.
For all the debate about among us about which of the Conservative Candidates would be best to confront Obama, I think any one of the top 4 candidates could do the job. Just as Jimmy Carter set the stage for what was the success of the Reagan years, Obama has taken the world so far left that virtually ANY of the top 4 conservatives will come across as a true leader stepping into the vacuum left by our current POS POTUS. This speech was his biggest mistake to date. To actually reveal his intentions after so slyly misleading the majority of the public for so long may be the best news we've had since the sillyness called ObamaCare was passed by Congress.
Posted by: MrObvious at December 06, 2011 05:38 PM (t4++D)
I do the first one now. I do the second one as much as possible.
Always cracks me up when people start to say that "they were talking to their lefty friends."
What lefty friends? Don't have any. Don't want any. Don't need/want the drama.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2011 09:33 PM (/ALRr)
Hehehehehehehe, I have never had a lefty friend. EVER. Just read a Pajamas article about talking with leftists. Even the leftists in my family now are beginning to see the light. Funny thing, my family is VERY religious, I use to ask them how they could sell their soul, now I just ask them if they enjoy heat. LOL!
Posted by: David Kramer at December 06, 2011 05:38 PM (OkW7e)
Remember, Obama hates capitalism and capitalists. So, that means he is a marxist. That proves we have been right ALL ALONG!
Posted by: David Kramer at December 06, 2011 05:42 PM (OkW7e)
Posted by: Death Comes to Pemberley ePub at December 06, 2011 05:50 PM (MOnEB)
Hellooooo, let MrObvious handle that stuff will ya?
Posted by: ontherocks at December 06, 2011 05:54 PM (HBqDo)
LISTEN UP: Socialism IS trickle-down economics. Trickle-down is the selling point of socialism. The name of the game is redistribution, from the rich to the poor. Socialism can only work as long as the population of the rich can engineer enough production to sustain the poor. The rich make piles of money which is then "trickled-down" to the poor.
A socialist who does not believe in his heart of hearts firmly, if he knows this or not, in trickle-down is a socialist who does not exist.
The entire attack on "trickle-down" is a sham. They know it's true. They are premised on that truth.
Laugh at them.
Posted by: Cowboy at December 06, 2011 06:08 PM (So+7G)
Posted by: melanerpes at December 06, 2011 06:14 PM (jfobK)
"in a lengthy address that aides said he largely wrote himself".
Even his speechwriters are sick of taking the hit for this asshole.
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 06, 2011 06:46 PM (XouHj)
Posted by: I am the walrus, goo-goo-ga-joo at December 06, 2011 06:47 PM (ndp2I)
Posted by: WeAreLegion at December 06, 2011 10:49
True-dat! WTF does this sucker of cock know about work?
I mean he loves work, he could watch his caddy work humpin' his clubs all day.
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 06, 2011 06:53 PM (XouHj)
"Mad Max Marxism"
Calling Slublog, Paging Mr. Slublog, please pick up the Jedi mind thinker and run w/this.
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 06, 2011 06:55 PM (XouHj)
Counterfeiters everywhere had a good laugh over that one.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 06, 2011 07:08 PM (iTXea)
Posted by: A King’s Ransom ePub at December 06, 2011 07:09 PM (wSrXY)
60
It's a good thing you can't use URLs longer than 10 characters in the comments.
BECAUSE THAT MIGHT FUCK UP THE BLOG OR SOMETHING******************************
Jeff, Jeff, Jeff.... we've been complaining about this bit of idiocy for years. Ace says "meh".
The prevailing theory as to why Ace still allows this is that the webmaster has photos of him doing the donkey thing in Tijuana.
Yeah, I know the image that comes to mind doesn't compute, but I understand there are some images floating around the net of Ace doing novel things with pingpong balls and lit cigarettes, too..
Posted by: Mike Czech at December 06, 2011 08:26 PM (ULADD)
"trickle-down economics."
The trickle-down phrase was one of Reagan's.
So Obama calls Reaganomics '12 Voodoo
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 07, 2011 01:58 AM (lpWVn)
"Do it on your own" economy? Really? The image of Obama as a serial arsonist in a field full of dry strawmen is so totally appropriate here. I mean, the SCOAMF might, and I mean might, have a point - IF we're talking about the government of TR's day (federal budget in 1910 - $840M, ALL government spending in 1910 - $2.68B, ALL government spending 8% GDP) - source: http://bit.ly/rWfK7d).
Today, we pretty much have the expansive, cradle-to-grave welfare, do-it-all-for-you government that TR and the rest of the "progressives" envisioned and even moreso among the Euroweenies. How's that working out? Yeah, I know - the "progressive" response to failure is to double- and triple-down on said failure - doesn't mean the insanity of this straw-man can't be pointed-out.
Does anyone in The Stupid Party have the sense (and/or guts) to point that out?
Posted by: DocJ at December 07, 2011 05:30 AM (A5uiv)
Posted by: home improvement at December 07, 2011 05:35 AM (atHvI)
Posted by: Teleprompter at December 07, 2011 07:00 AM (NbmYl)
But he's RIGHT!!
Capitalism has utterly failed to give the lazy, indolent, and stupid La Dolce Vita. It's their 'right' you know. It's 'not fair' you have more. Obviously it's because of racism, sexism, and biggotry against those who just don't have the energy to rise up and go to work day in and day out.
Especially after a long afternoon and night of boozing and ingesting various drugs into their degraded bodies. Bodies degraded because YOU have kept them from those million dollar medical treatments they so richly deserve by being alive (or something).
Posted by: chuck in st paul at December 07, 2011 08:28 AM (EhYdw)
Obama has already give up the idea of getting the working white vote. He is going after the fruitcake vote.
Posted by: burt at December 07, 2011 08:30 AM (OzqQM)
Hey, suckahs...you liked that "Texas" thing, din't you? Heh. Kansas, Alaskas...whatever. MSM's buffing my poll numbers as we speak. I'll be busting 50% by the time I hit the beach next week. Watch and weep.
That, plus the 8.6% U3 I got last week, will be quite the pair of fuzzy dice, nay say pah?
It's a Long March back, but don't doubt me...no sir.
Posted by: 66chevelle at December 07, 2011 08:45 AM (QjSgY)
Posted by: izoneguy at December 07, 2011 09:01 AM (i6Neb)
Posted by: izoneguy at December 07, 2011 09:03 AM (i6Neb)
"Maybe that's cause his wife earned $300K as a worthless advisor to a hospital in a clear cut, yet unexamined, case of patronage, that he has such a negative view of capitalism, cause his success is so worthless, that everyone must be worthless."
That's a good thought. To these people, success is (and in their minds, should be) linked to who in power you know, your political connections, your race and gender bona fides, what school you attended, etc., etc. If you are part of this kulturesmog, you are compensated at a robber baron's pay no matter your qualifications, and are enriched according to how well you play the political/crony capialist game.
Very little is made of applying simple hard work and all the intelligence you have to your chosen field, mastering your "craft" (whatever it may be), and doing all this for many years, working your way up as you go. That is for the plebians.
Posted by: RM at December 07, 2011 09:28 AM (TRsME)
Not a problem. If he's willing to make the case for it, then he should own it.
Tar him with it. Tar him early, and often.
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at December 07, 2011 09:53 AM (1rHeD)
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