1
 Hey Fritz, double-posting is supposed to be an Ewok job.

2 I sort of agree but I strongly disagree that the Rs have "sente" right now. You don't get that by default.

3 It not just the Republicans. If the facade continues to slip, Dem rivals will be emboldened. No serious contender will move unless they think that he is wounded, and that they can convince donors of that. I think that the news about donations from hedge fund managers is most telling. And if a leftist rival emerges (Nader for example), then his base is split and I think that he will certainly lose.

4 Trump is a picador.

5 I won't be convince until he releases the DD 214!

Oh wait- are we talking about John Kerry?

6 It's sort of hard to be a pristine cool and detached zen master when one must come down off one's throne to wrestle in the mud with a pig like Trump.

Wherever he is today, the "Punching Down!" guy is snickering.

7 It's old.

8

Beck & Co. are convinced that Obi-Won Nairobi was all-too-gleeful to do this because it will be a major distraction from Helicopter Ben's afternoon presser on da Fed. 

Dang, this is such a relief.  It was so hard to keep all these doubts rolling around in my melon as well as the knowledge that my country is being dismantled before my eyes, and no one in the opposing party seems to have a problem with it/any fight in them.

9 And another losing point for Obama is that there is a large percentage of American idiots who thought Obama had already released the long form birth certificate who are now thinking, "Obama just now released it?  What an asshole!"

10 Let's not forget who started this birth certificate kerfuffle: Hillary Clinton. Her people opened this can of worms during the 2008 primary. Barack was just too stupid or arrogant to address it back then. Maybe because he wanted some of his Muslim allies to think he was a Kenyan, even though he knew he wasn't.

11 In retrospect, B.O. looks petulant and foolish because of this. That is how this will play out. He saw the tide was turning on the character issue, and was forced to cut his losses. The irony is that this will only enflame the character issue to his detriment. For the first time since his election, I am feeling good about the political course of this country.

12 The reason he's releasing right now may also have to do with the new legislations in states like Arizona that candidates for President have to present their birth certificate.

13 This release by Obama suggests the Republicans have sente right now.

Nope. This means that Trump is taking charge. The Republican leadership is still doing what it does best and being the Democrats b**ch. They are still caving on everything from the debt ceiling to gas prices.  

14 If the Republicans have the wit and cojones

Sorry, I don't speak spanish.

15 Sente?  What the hell am I supposed to do with that?

16 Someone needs to ask the question why he spent so much money hiding this.

17 While the birther issue is presumably at rest, this is an opportunity for the Republicans to further extend the challenge to the legitimacy of the administration. In fact, it presents a rather credible pivot ala "Of course most of us discounted this absurd issue of birth legitimacy, but the real crisis of legitimacy over X remains unanswered by this President and his administration."

Shifting the focus by issue and to the administration (and ultimately the progressives overall) is key for the next election, particularly if further inroads are to be made in Congressional and state elections. The American populace, particularly the independents, are highly sensitive to issues of legitimacy which the Left effectively utilized in 2000 per "Selected, Not Elected!" Gore/Lieberman complaints. Much of their strategy was out of Carl Schmitt's Weimar era analysis (Crisis of Parlimentary Democracy, 1926) on the critical role of identity in the formation of representative democratic legitimacy. Curiously, the German progressives appropriated Schmitt's analysis and destroyed the Weimar government with attacks on its international, "non-German" identity (much of which was unfortunately accurate, though one should argue that no government other than the most fascist would ever pass such a test). The Left attempted this again with Bush in 2000, and it appears Trump is stoking the same fire in his populist efforts.

It's probably pragmatic to recognize what Schmitt identifies is not a prescription, but an accurate description of a political reality. Given Obama's Globalist, Communist, Black Liberation Theology, and Islamic affiliations (and his inane habit of bowing before every foreign dignitary, even the counter clerk at the local Chinese take-out), he's presented an incredibly large target for the utilization of this technique.

18

How fucking weird that anyone would think this is a repudiation of the right. Bumbles thought that he didn't have to follow the rules. Turns out he does. Interesting that "African" is a race.

I also didn't realize that his mother was only 18 which means she got knocked up by an 24 year old african when she was close to 17. That's sorta, well, gross.

19

Trump was good for something, he made ODumbass sweat.  I like that....a lot.  Don't let up on anything, he will break.  Trump proved he will break.

20 I think O released his long form certificate, because he really doesn;t want to release his transcripts, university funding and his passport applications...his Indonesian citizenship?

21 In the immortal words of Adm. Josh Painter: "A Russian doesn't take a dump without a plan, son."

Likewise our JEF doesn't do ANYTHING that doesn't contribute to either the exercise of the perks of his office or the maintenance of his hold on them.  How this supports one or the other (or both) of these goals we'll soon see.

22 I think that Obama and his campaign managers are very worried. Poll numbers are dropping.

“As a friend noted on Facebook, Obama’s popularity is falling so fast that Kenyans are now claiming Obama was born in the United States.”

23 OT/ That sand flea at #1 gets more obnoxious by the hour.

>>>If the Republicans have the wit and cojones to see and exploit it (a questionable proposition), they have a tremendous opportunity here to maintain that advantage by pressing Obama hard on a specific issue, forcing him to respond to that issue, and then moving on to an entirely different issue.

You better start practicing hyperventilation techniques if you're planning on holding your breath for that.

24 I didn't see Obama's presser. Did he manage to look Presidential, after 2+ years in office, explaining that he was born in the U.S? How embarrassing. For those that think that this wasn't a major low point in his Presidency, think again...

25 Sente?  Not too sure I got that.  But scent - hell yeah.  Scotch,  cigarettes,  Old Spice® and just a hint of Pepper Jack cheese.

26 Notice that he released it within hours of Trump asking for transcripts.

27 Watch the other hand folks, the fed gives their presser this afternoon.....

28 Hate to get all Freepy, but where are annotation pages for the adoption and name change back to Barack.  Not all states include name changes in their birth records; but adoptions should be. 

Does Hawaii completely separate their registrar from the birth records?

29 words of Adm. Josh Painter: "A Russian doesn't take a dump without a plan, son."

If Obama was a Russian, he would die of constipation.

30 This is why Trump is doing good in the polls. It's because he actually fights for things and amazingly when you actually fight you sometimes win.

It's too bad that this is confusing to all you establishment types that think that repeatedly giving the democrats everything they want will somehow lead to victory.

31 He wants Trump to stop digging.

32 not to be a pedantic dick, but who is Ryan Paul?

33 I hope Trump comes out and says "It is a good start, see that wasn't so hard, where's the rest ..."

34 I want to see Chrissy Matthews before and after videos on this.  Claiming Obama had released the certificate years ago and now claiming that he released the certificate this week.  George Orwell will be spinning in his grave.

35 I fully expected at least one candidate to utter this during the coming campaign Â…
“I’ll be releasing that in tandem with Barack Obama’s long form birth certificate”

36
Trump has dinged Obama more in the last month than the entire GOP has in the last 3 years...

yet some of you want him to go away.

37 stolen without permission from a comment at Zero Hedge, because I can't express myself any better than this:

"The point is nothing they do is coincidence.  IT's a psyops mindfuck if you ask me.  They put a gun to our head, stole trillions and we have proof of where it went.  Now they are about to do it again!  Then all of a sudden we get this garbage about a piece of paper on the day of the fed meeting and discussions about the debt limit???  What the fuck is more important?  People don't give a shit about giving their money away to vampire scum but now they care about a little piece of paper?"

'zactly.

38 omg idiot on msnbc just called barack's father, an immigrant....... omg

39 Trump has dinged Obama more in the last month than the entire GOP has in the last 3 years...

yet some of you want him to go away.



Of course the Establishment types want him to go away. He would disrupt their super duper plan of winning by repeatedly refusing to fight for anything.

40 I think they picked now to release the birth certificate because Trump had started asking about his _college_ records and they needed something to distract from that.

41
All non-Americans, no matter where they live in the world, are immigrants, to white liberal elites.

42 He's still a bastard child

43 So, this proves he isn't even a citizen, let alone a natural born citizen(?) Since his mother was too young to confer her citizenship to him, therefore his father's citizenship (Kenyan) defaults to him. Hmm.

44

except it still doesn't matter if he was born in the lincoln bedroom of the white house HIS FATHER was NOT an AMERICAN CITIZEN

 

DUAL CITIZEN AT BEST...NOT "natural born Citizen" under Article II

45 Wherever he is today, the "Punching Down!" guy is snickering.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at April 27, 2011 11:03 AM (oDMwn)

Exactly, Obama looks weak and scared today. He is playing Trump's and maybe the GOP's game. He can't get inside their loop because success for his agenda depends on the American people not caring and being totally stupid.  Gas prices and food prices remind them every day of his failed policies.

46
Every time someone on our side scrapes a little veneer off Obama, the sighing and whining begins, and the wishes for them to "shut up and go away" commence.

Joe Wilson
Ann Coulter
Glenn Beck
Rush Limbaugh
Donald Trump
John McCain  heh

47 And I see that Ace already covered that angle in his post.

48

plus he was adopted by the second Indonesian father...

 

how does that work???

49
oops, forgot Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann

50

The most important thing tom me is how Obama responded. He blamed the media for distracting him from budget issues and had a little hissy fit-- all this despite the fact that he created this issue. Not only is he reinforcing his reputation as thin-skinned and willing to constantly shift blame, he also can't stop acting like the jerk he is. His legendary cool persona has once again been exposed as a fraud. So whether the BC is authentic or not, the entire situation reflects poorly on him.

51 OT - Some WI protest fallout

From the Wisconsin State Journal:

UW doctors face penalties for writing sick notes for protesters

LINK  (h/t HA)

52 Never cared a whit about his birth certificate, and still don't. Lets see his academic transcripts.

53

This makes Obama look like a vindictive jackass.  These questions have been ciruclating since his inauguration, if not before.  He could have quashed them years ago by simply releasing a piece of paper that he apparently had all along.  So why didn't he?

Because he's a conniving little turd who thought he could score politically as long as the issue stayed alive.  When it started to burn him, he makes the document public.

I don't suppose that many in the mushy middle will view this as the conduct of a statesman.  They'll see it as Nixonian, the act of a petty little man.  This won't help keep the independents on his side, even if it thrills the Obamessiah True Believers.

54 49

plus he was adopted by the second Indonesian father...

 

how does that work???

_______________

That's why we need to see the college transcripts. 

55 Actually, I'm a little disappointed the birth certificate turned up. Now it's just a matter of DNA and bad parenting rather than a hideous mistake of science gone horribly wrong...

56

How many will continue to believe that he wasn't born in the U.S.? Why was this an issue in the first place? Yes, it's important whether or not someone is constitutionally able to serve, but do we really think that this particular person is the big problem?

BO is a symptom of a disease. The problem is US… We have a HUGE segment of our population who thinks that someone owes them something. That “someone” is typically someone with a tax-paying job.

There is a core belief among many that if you have money, itÂ’s because you somehow took advantage, were given unfair advantage, or somehow defrauded others. This is especially true if youÂ’re white, Christian, and conservative.

THAT is the problem. The only thing this world owes you is fair wages for the labor you perform or a fair price for the goods youÂ’re selling. Fair means the price you negotiated before you began the work or sold the item. If someone who looks like me was a prick to someone who looked like you 150 years ago, deal with it. Go get a job.

57

 

Why does it list the race of his father as African? I wasn't aware that African was a race,just asking.

58 54

This makes Obama look like a vindictive jackass.  These questions have been ciruclating since his inauguration, if not before.  He could have quashed them years ago by simply releasing a piece of paper that he apparently had all along.  So why didn't he?

And a Navy officer who questioned his BC languishes in prison, because his pathetic CiC is a bastard.

59 #19 Obama's dad was a graduate student; his mom was a college freshman. This isn't news. More to the point, I don't think you can really hold any of this against Obama, per se, since he had nothing to do with his parents relationship at that time. Its really irrelevant. This is also why I think the records that matter are his college transcripts, since they go right to the heart of Obama's "brilliance". If indeed Obama had awesome grades at Columbia and Harvard, he shouldn't be ashamed to release them for all to see. If he doesn't have them, it raises significant question about the nature of his ascent. In other words, how much of it was based on his own talent and abilities, and how much on external influence and/or racial factors. I predict that Obama will not release his academic records; certainly not prior to the 2012 election.

60 9 And another losing point for Obama is that there is a large percentage of American idiots who thought Obama had already released the long form birth certificate who are now thinking, "Obama just now released it?  What an asshole!"

 

Does this mean the 9 MSNBC/AOL articles I read that claimed Obama had already released his birthcirteficate weren't factually correct?

Nooooo! They don't make mistakes like that!....EVAH!

61

Trump has Triumphed again, and the Obama camp exits victorious. He has stolen the thunder, done what no other Republican candidate could do, and now looks stronger than ever. A hard act to follow for any of the field of Republican candidates.

When the rest of you finally realize that Trump is a Democrat in disguise weakening the Republican bid to unseat POTUS, you may even start to see how Obama is playing to Teh Donald. No question Trump is the candidate of choice for the DNC.

I said earlier this Birth Certificate issue was a trap, and sure enough, there is nothing there to match the prerelease speculation. Nothing! And as Teh Donald rages on about the rest of the suppressed info, like transcripts and records, the Obama team will let the balloon expand, then burst it with the release of more info. Another Trap!

All of this is a planned distraction from the issues. Argue those.

Jobs, unemployment, deficits, debt ceiling, inflation, war(s), corruption, Obamacare, smaller government, less regulation, fewer laws, fairer taxes and foreign aid/policy.  

62 #45 Sorry, but by law and precedent, if you're born in the USA you're a natural born citizen (period). The citizenship of your parents doesn't matter. Maybe it *should* matter, but that's a whole other argument.

63 As of right now I'm voting for Trump. The man gets results while the rest of the GOP wets its pants and worries about being called raaaaaaacist.I will change my mind if I see a similar display of gonads from another GOP candidate but we all know that will not happen.

64

Get A Mirror-- Or A Plan (NRO)

"The Complainer-in-Chief just hijacked the airwaves for another moment of presidential petulance:

'Two weeks ago when the Republican House had put forward a budget that will have huge consequences potentially to the country. And when I gave a speech about my budget and how I felt that we needed to invest in education, in infrastructure, in making sure that we had a strong safety net for our seniors even as we were closing the deficit.

During that entire week the dominant news story wasnÂ’t abut these huge monumental choices that we going to have to make as a nation. It was about my birth certificate.'"

So I'm supposed to feel sorry for him for creating a distraction not only once but twice with this issue because he's so petty and such a failure of a president.

65 It was Hillary Clinton's campaign that started this whole thing. And how fucking hard was it for Bambi to just release this shit that his own party was asking for four years ago?

66 mister money now that's some multi layered conspiracy..........

67 But his foreskin! Cut or uncut!?

68 obama is trump's b*tch

69 #31 Trump pulled this off mainly because (at least for the moment) he has the attention of the media. Being loud and obnoxious can work. . .under certain circumstances. The reason he does, is probably because they think he's damaging to Republican interests in the coming election. An interesting irony, no? How long Trump can stay in the spotlight remains to be seen (he is, at the very least, a master of self-promotion), but to put it politely I think he's going to have some trouble securing Republican primary wins, and even if he is as serious as he claims to be, I can't see him winning the nomination.

70 i am proud of President Obama for releasing this record. So proud. Now all of you numb-nuts can sit down and shup because he is a natural born citizen of the US !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

71 And a Navy officer who questioned his BC languishes in prison, because his pathetic CiC is a bastard.

That would make a great ad.

As CiC it is Obamas job to protect our troops. Yet he let this Navy officer go to prison because Obama would not release his long form BC for over 2 years.

72 63#45 Sorry, but by law and precedent, if you're born in the USA you're a natural born citizen (period). The citizenship of your parents doesn't matter. Maybe it *should* matter, but that's a whole other argument.

Posted by: looking closely at April 27, 2011 11:35 AM (YpVHs)

Sorry... your opinion is the popular one, but incorrect.

Minor v. Happersett – wherein the Supreme Court stated:

The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their [88 U.S. 162, 168] parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts.

 

If the Supreme Court can have 'doubts' as to this class... then it seems its an open question.

73

Did you guys see the letter from O's attorney to the health department lady? Spoon fed the desired response.  Check the blog at whitehouse dot gov.

(from Ms. Corley)

"Waiver of the Department's policy in this instance would allow my client to make a certified copy of his original birth certificate publicly available and would also relieve the burden currently being placed on the Department of Health by the numerous inquiries it recieves from the media and others relating to my client's birth record."

So, that spoon fed resonse is then written back in letter from the Director of Health, Ms. Loretta J. Fuddy, ACSW, MPH.  But in a totally passive agressive way.  She just HAD to say "Such inquiries have been disruptive to staff operation and have strained State resources."

Don't be such a duddy, Ms. Fuddy.

74 #63 1968+

75

phoenixgirl

Trump is Trump. He says he is a really smart guy, then lets Obama play him like a ukelele. No conspiracy, perhaps just the old marxist concept of the useful idiot.

As Carville once said, "It's the economy, stupid"

Bad economy = Bad for the Incumbant

Distraction from bad economy = Good for the incumbant.

 

76 Why didn't he produce it when the Ltc was going to jail? What was that about? Asshole.

77 Try to stay on the same page, morons and moronettes:

"This shouldn't hurt Trump too much."

78 #58 If you're specifically referring to race, it probably would have been fair to categorize Obama's dad as "Negro" or (worse) "Negroid", though even in the 1960s those terms were politically incorrect. I think "African" was actually probably in use then. Today "Black" is probably the medical term of choice, but its not clear to me that that term was in common medical use in 1961.

79 There must be another story breaking today that will be damaging to Obama. This could be a diversion of another story about to hit sometime today??

80 Republicans won't use this to their advantage because they're kinda stupid and are till walking around on eggshells trying not to break them for some reason.

81 80There must be another story breaking today that will be damaging to Obama. This could be a diversion of another story about to hit sometime today??

Posted by: George Marshall at April 27, 2011 11:47 AM (48wze)

Bernake giving a Press Conference as head of the Fed... having to answer questions could get reallllyyyyy sticky.

82 The name of the person most responsible for this controversy dragging on is Barack Obama.  I don't think it will be lost on people that there wasn't even a good reason to keep it private.  He was just doing it because he's a dick.

83 Posted by: Romeo13 at April 27, 2011 11:43 AM (NtXW4)

Too bad that case was about voting rights, not actual citizenship.

I mean, seriously, is it too much to ask folks to cite things that actually pertain to what they're arguing about?

84 About time. Now, let's have a look at those college transcripts.

85 (And worse, about women's voting rights.  Pertinent citation FAIL!)

86

Another Edition of Questions the Press Could Ask!

Mr. President, you noted that questions regarding your birth certificate which began during the 2008 campaign are trivial and a distraction. Because this distraction about trivia has been festering now for three years and because by virtue of Hawaiian law you are the only one allowed to solve this distraction, why didn't you do this years ago?

87

lol - Andrew Sullivan is so embarrassed for his dear leader, that he has become incoherent.

Obama lose, indeed.

88 #1: Yeah, I looked at the site -- there was nothing here -- wrote my posted -- posted it -- looked at the site -- and there was Ace's post and (big blog etiquette breach) I had posted <i>above</i> him.

#4: Great analogy; wish I had thought of it.

#9-12: Good points, all. (Actually, all the comments are up to the usual AOSHQ standards.)
 
#38: Sigh. Senility in one as young as I is so tragic. Correction made (but not obscured).

As for Trump -- Trump is (IMHO) a godsend for the GOP. He has nothing really to lose, he's having great fun, and I don't think he really intends to be a serious candidate -- the MSM would give him a vigorous, relentless vetting (as they have always refused to do with Obama), and I think they would uncover a lot of stuff that Trump doesn't want uncovered (or, at least, that would sink his candidacy and GOP prospects for 2012 with it). But in the meantime, he's got a great public platform and is giving Obama the treatment that most media outlets give Republicans. The danger is that he would indeed become the GOP nominee -- and if you don't think that could happen, I have two words for you: John McCain. Or: Bob Dole. ..fritz..

89 55 49

plus he was adopted by the second Indonesian father...

 how does that work???

.............

Lacey told us awhile back that she knows about this kind of law......... she might know.

90 80 There must be another story breaking today that will be damaging to Obama. This could be a diversion of another story about to hit sometime today??

He and Moochelle are jetting up to Chi-town for a softball interview with Orca Winfrey, then off to a fundraiser in NYC.

'Cause he's busy with important "stuff" and all.

91

"So Mr. President, with this distraction behind you, do you think your handicap will improve?"

92
The timing of the release was beautiful and it backfired perfectly on Team Obama.

They expected Donald to stutter and stammer at his presser in NH, but instead Donald says: Finally!

 

93

Posted by: looking closely at April 27, 2011 11:47 AM (YpVHs)

Kind of interesting to me that the Birth Cert was signed by Mom 3 days after the birth, and by the Doc 4 days after the birth...

Aug 4, 1961 was a Thursday... so born Thurs. evening, then a three day stay for Mom and birthcert signed on discharge? Then Doc signed it on Monday?

Seems a bit sloppy...

94

BO is a symptom of a disease. The problem is US… We have a HUGE segment of our population who thinks that someone owes them something. That “someone” is typically someone with a tax-paying job.

About 25 million of the US you are referring to are illegal alians whom Jimmy Carter TOLD were deserving of Social Security and all the other benefits of our society if only they would break in and join us.

95 2 I sort of agree but I strongly disagree that the Rs have "sente" right now. You don't get that by default.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 27, 2011 11:00 AM (SB0V2)

No? So is zerO going to run on his record? I guess not, since that certainly wouldn't give him "sente", just heartburn.

96 "So Mr. President, now that the distraction of three years of daily briefings, agency ruminations and congressional hearings on the birth certificate issue are effectively over, can you do your job?"

97

The birther issue is exhausting. I am glad he released it.  You know what - good for lord untouchable.

98

Politico confirms Patrick Poole's (PJM) report that DOJ nixed CAIR prosecution. 

"Bush did it too!"   Once again showing the consistent support Obama has for Bush policies.  

99 I mean, seriously, is it too much to ask folks to cite things that actually pertain to what they're arguing about?

Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord© at April 27, 2011 11:51 AM (GBXon)

Hmmm.... so the Supreme Court, talking about what a Natural Born Citizen is, after a LONG discussion of it in the case, does not PERTAIN to the question of what a Natural Born Citizen is? Or even if that Definition is in DOUBT?

Interesting that the Supremes had doubts... yet you wish to dismiss the question altogether...

Hmmmm.... lets see... Supreme Court vs. Dark Lord....

100 Next issue, the drilling moratorium and gas prices.

101 Article 2 snip:
"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

Read one way, any naturalized citizen is eligible as long as the age req is met. Read another way, only a natural born citizen is eligible now and naturalized citizens who'd lived in country for 14 years or those simply born in country prior to the publishing of the Constitution were eligible back when there was a lack of actual natural born citizens since the US was a brand new country.

A natural born citizen is a legal term with a long history. Goes all the way back to the Westphalen nation state deal. A natural born citizen is one who was born to a father that was born to a particular country on that country's soil.

The natural born citizen requirement was to preclude the existence of loyalties to other peoples in other places that may compromise a leader in his decisions.

But, now that the First Amendment has been reread and remeaned to cover allegiance to an armed enemy during a time of war, who knows what means what anymore.

102

Here is my birth certificate, now please pay attention to me destroying the country

Respectfully,

zerO

103 Romeo13, Read the f---ing syllabus.  The case was about whether States could effectively establish voting as not an intrinsic right of citizens, in specific reference to women.  Go ahead, read it, since you're making such a show of citing it in this case.  It has nothing to do with whether or not a given case--in the specific example cited, women of the state of Missouri--are citizens.

Or continue to beclown yourself, as is your right.

104 64 As of right now I'm voting for Trump. The man gets results while the rest of the GOP wets its pants and worries about being called raaaaaaacist.I will change my mind if I see a similar display of gonads from another GOP candidate but we all know that will not happen.

Posted by: schizoid at April 27, 2011 11:37 AM (B8U/R)

This is what I'm afraid of.... ppl picking Trump for this reason. I agree #76 that this is a trap, Trump is a trojan horse.

105 Or continue to beclown yourself, as is your right.

Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord© at April 27, 2011 12:11 PM (GBXon)

Interesting... read the case myself...

So quoting a Supreme Court Justice, stating, in ANY venue, that there are doubts as to what a "Natural Born Citizen' is... is beclowning myself???

'I' did not say it.... THEY did.... but please try to continue to make this about me.... its amusing...

106

Every time someone on our side scrapes a little veneer off Obama, the sighing and whining begins, and the wishes for them to "shut up and go away" commence.

Joe Wilson
Ann Coulter
Glenn Beck
Rush Limbaugh
Donald Trump
John McCain heh

Don't lump me and Rush in this, 'cause we don't say this. We're Great Americans,® especially me.  Donald Trump?

107 You're Not a Great American®!  I am! 

108 106 If you read the docs, please explain where specifically it says that the argument is about who is a citizen, rather than what the intrinsic rights and privileges of a citizen are, other than to establish that the subjects in question are, in fact, citizens.

In other words...I don't think you've actually read the thing.

109

Obama just released this juicy tidbit too!!

Bon appetit fellas!!

 

"Underground" (by Barack Obama)

Barack Obama wrote this poem as an undergraduate:

Underground

Under water grottos, caverns
Filled with apes
That eat figs.
Stepping on the figs
That the apes
Eat, they crunch.
The apes howl, bare
Their fangs, dance,
Tumble in the
Rushing water,
Musty, wet pelts
Glistening in the blue.

– Barack Obama

110

Red herring all the way. The real dirt is contained in the college records which will show fraudulent aid received by Obama by claiming he was a foreign student. The release of the bc is an attempt to put a stop to any investigations of Obama's background.

And it's probably going to work.

Let's see what Trump does now.

111 So this release of the birth certificate is troubling- it apparently establishes ohblahblah as a US citizen. Given how jawdroppingly stooopit that assclown is, it shows our education system to be in shambles.

This is our pinhead moment, people.

112 All of this is a planned distraction from the issues. Argue those. Jobs, unemployment, deficits, debt ceiling, inflation, war(s), corruption, Obamacare, smaller government, less regulation, fewer laws, fairer taxes and foreign aid/policy. Posted by: MisterMoney at April 27, 2011 11:35 AM (wN82N) That's why I think the GOP's best hope is Huntsman. He accepted the position as ambassador to China and showed an attitude of cooperation. He resigned early, because he disagreed with Obama's foreign policy. This is as good as Hillary primarying Obama. Huntsman is also exempt from the race card, a powerful weapon with independents and something the Democrats are looking forward to deploying. But in order to gain the Republican base's trust and avoid being defined as to Romney's left, Huntsman will have to run on his record, and it's good enough to take traditional votes from the Dems and demoralize their base. Obama is counting on a candidate he can paint as an extremist. Trump is supposed to lead our guys in that direction.

113 eems a bit sloppy... Posted by: Romeo13 at April 27, 2011 11:57 AM (NtXW4) Dude, they're on Hawaiian time. Spark up a blunt.

114 Huntsman can also compete with Obama's fundraising. If he gets' Barbour's talent (McCain people, and he was Maverick's campaign co-chair), you have a very strong candidate for the general.

115 I always love his "we must focus on our problems and not revile our enemies as we find common ground to move forward" speech which is usually delivered immediately before going all partisan and labeling his opponents "extremists" and "racists"....

116 Come on, guys. The only reason we're seeing this document now is because the "people" Trump sent to Hawaii... is actually Dick Cheney, now working as a private Dick.

After joylessly killing his way into the registrar's office, he fatally fisted Dr. Onaka, and wore the good doctor like a glove, stamping the certificate himself. Results!

117

fritz,

It's interesting to see the varied opinions on this, how people can see the same event and walk away with entirely different opinions.  Trump just got a huge boost in my opinion.  Rush Limbaugh seems to agree too, he's talking right now about how Trump is the absolute only candidate taking it [the fight] to Obama.  The callers are all agreeing it's a victory for Trump.  Many of them don't like Trump, but nonetheless see it as a victory for him.

We have not heard the last of Trump by a long shot.

118 It's a victory because Obama couldn't wait until next Spring to gut whoever was still running with this.   He would much rather run on his record of birth than his record as president. 

119

grimmy @ 102--right on point

 

you see John Jay wrote to George Washington specifically about "natural born" citizen status as being above a mere citizen because you naturally tended to follow the loyalties of your father's citizenship and they didn't want the office of President to have any problems with that...or you might have someone send the bust of Churchill back to the fkg colonialists who gave that to you, or something

120 12 The reason he's releasing right now may also have to do with the new legislations in states like Arizona that candidates for President have to present their birth certificate.

Posted by: CanaDave at April 27, 2011 11:06 AM (6FX+Y)

You mean the legislation that Jan Brewer vetoed? 

Oh yeah, he's real scared of a law that doesn't exist because it was struck down by a lily-livered governor.

No, he played his long game and came up short.  He's just an arrogant ass who wanted to prove that he was above everyone else.

121 Of course the release of the birth certificate hurts Obama, because now there's proof he's not the Messiah, as God remains the only person without a birth certificate

122

1) It does not deflate Trump's candidacy at all. If anything, it shows the kind of clout Trump carries with the public. I would say it significantly strengthens it.

2) Yes, the other candidates had an uncomfortable time about this thing, and it should make it a lot easier for them now. That being said, Trump took care of this where they could not.

3) Yes, stress at the Obama camp. But Obama himself told us his reason, and he's arrogant and narcissistic enough to tell us - Trump was getting more and more positive press than he was. It's as simple as that.

123 If anything, it shows the kind of clout Trump carries with the public. 50% of the public opposes Trump for president. He's worse than Christine O'Donnell.

124

I would say that Obarky is wagging the dog but that might endanger the Portuguese Water Dog in residence. 

No doubt, in addition to falling poll numbers and the Trumping he was taking, the BC release was a move to deflect his peoples from what Bernanke has to say on the sinking economy. The emperor's chronic use of Air Force One for his wrist flapping to Oprah (Chicago) and $35K fundraisers (NYC) today is his much more serious bidness. Once again, introducing The UnPrecedented. At least he is not bombing aspirin factories in the Sudan, although I long for those Clinton days of yore.

Barky also had a chance to lift his regal chin and scold those who were silly and wasting time on the serious stuff. Has he mentioned Texas buring from one end to the other? Or the states who have had loss of life and destruction from the tornadoes in the Midwest and South? Oh, yeah, those are flyover states. Heaven knows he would blame it on climate change anyway. Syria in meltdown...whatever. Bad, bad peoples to waste time on silly BC! I don't listen to him due to the hypnotizing and irritating 's' sounds, as well as the nasolabial mole twitching on his yellowish face, so maybe he mentioned some of his 57 states in need of federal aid and the rest of the world news he is so busy working on (sort of like OJ looking for Nicole's murderer on golf courses).

Friday we lucky Floridians will host The Wons on another taxpaid AF1 trip: to pose with Gabby and watch the shuttle lift off after the Royal Wedding they were not invited to.

125 Just to be clear-
Does this mean that AoSHQ is OFFICIALLY not in line with the whole
"Barry Dunham is NOT qualified to become President rif"?

I'd like a somewhat legible answer from someone in authority around here.

126 As far as I'm concerned if you can split a log with your cock you are qualified to be president. If you can't then get a better cock or a worse log.

127 Underground Under water grottos, caverns Filled with apes That eat figs. Stepping on the figs That the apes Eat, they crunch. The apes howl, bare Their fangs, dance, Tumble in the Rushing water, Musty, wet pelts Glistening in the blue. Then those apes Finally awake. Anger stings them, So they stare you down They Vote you the fuck OUT So you call them racists. Will they still Flinch? The underground will be a long time recovering from all that fig crushing. Stupid apes. Voted for the hope Now stuck with the change That can't Be drowned So easily with tea served four years too late. Lazy little Non-vigilant Apes. Too late to howl. You are now Changed. Chained. With fluid chains Surrounded. Almost Drowned perhaps, In yawning blue depths Of merciless debt. Crushed figs, Tired limbs, Burning lungs thrashing heart, must somehow fight that hungry pull That seeks To draw them Down where there is no hope at all for figs or apes. It almost makes you want to laugh at them. once tristing now struggling clinging failing ebbing raging fading Underground.