February 23, 2011

Obama Condemns Violence in Libya; Somehow Manages to Not Mention Moamar Qadhafi
— Ace

Present.

Weak sauce as far as action:

Obama said his staff will work with the international community to discuss the volatile situation and the administration is "doing everything we can to protect American citizens," calling it his "highest priority."

I love a discussion.

Although I should be fair: I don't think I want tangible American action here. Arabs have enormous chips on their shoulders about the West and like slightly-demented loser little brothers they sort of need to make their own way, even it it's a bit pathetic. American involvement gives them what they most need -- a scapegoat, someone to blame their failures on.

I could be wrong.

On CNN... A guy is saying that Libya, the state, may not survive Qadhafi's ouster; the state may split into tribe-controlled regions.

Does anyone care about this? Is there a single good reason to champion these arbitrary lines and larger-than-needed-or-wanted states which unite tribes that don't want to be under a single authority?

Do we have some sentimentalism about our old maps? Do we fear having to draw new ones?

This expert wasn't necessarily against Libya splitting into smaller states, but his general tone was one of alarm.

I don't get that. Why do we care if Libya splits into seven more homogeneous tribal regions?

Given the huge amount of trouble in this part of the world, and their inability to run functional modern-style governments, shouldn't we be in favor of smaller states?

Oh, right, the dream of multiculturalism. We have to champion multiculturalism not only in our own peaceful country but in barbaric tribal semi-states.

Posted by: Ace at 01:58 PM | Comments (617)
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1 Release the.....ferry.

Posted by: MissTammy at February 23, 2011 01:59 PM (BebB7)

2 Perfect timing.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 23, 2011 02:00 PM (SJ6/3)

3 Did I say "protect"?  I meant "rape and subjugate".

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at February 23, 2011 02:00 PM (c45xH)

4 Holy underwear! Sheriff murdered! Innocent women and children blown to bits! We have to protect our phoney baloney jobs here, gentlemen! We must do something about this immediately! Immediately! Immediately! Harrumph! Harrumph! Harrumph!

Posted by: King Barry I "Piehole" at February 23, 2011 02:00 PM (QKKT0)

5 How are the waffles, Barry?

Posted by: fluffy at February 23, 2011 02:01 PM (SwkdU)

6 CBS via Mark Knoppler reportd  on twitter-

'notice he didnt mention Qadafi by name. WH says they dont want it to get personal'

Yeah wouldnt want to offend Momar on a personal level. Barry wants to keep all his options on the table.

Hey Momar, I like you personally, but it looks bad on tv, you know I have to say these things as President, but please be assured it's nothing personal


Posted by: ginaswo at February 23, 2011 02:01 PM (k1f7N)

7

He should have a new seal to hang on his podium for foreign policy pronouncements.

What's the Latin for "Fuck Me Harder, Mohammed!"?

Posted by: Sharkman at February 23, 2011 02:01 PM (sqNU7)

8 Present!  Present!

Posted by: President Sissypants at February 23, 2011 02:02 PM (c0A3e)

9 As long as muzzies are killing muzzies, I have no problem with his silence.

Posted by: Barbarian at February 23, 2011 02:02 PM (EL+OC)

10 Did the Presidential Seal jump off and run from the podium this time?

Posted by: Cicero at February 23, 2011 02:02 PM (QKKT0)

11 TOTUS acted stupidly.

Posted by: toby928™ at February 23, 2011 02:02 PM (GTbGH)

12 7 Pedicabo me tibi semper magis, Mohammed

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 23, 2011 02:03 PM (SJ6/3)

13 To the Future!

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2011 02:04 PM (yr+62)

14

Tell Moammar it was only business, I always liked him.

Posted by: King Barry I "Piehole" at February 23, 2011 02:04 PM (QKKT0)

15 Pedicabo me tibi semper magis, Mohammed

Should we disturbed that you know this?

Posted by: fluffy at February 23, 2011 02:05 PM (SwkdU)

16

And that article is dated today?

"Dereliction of duty" comes to mind.

Posted by: ErikW at February 23, 2011 02:06 PM (H+suL)

17

He's scared out of his ever-lovin' mind that he'll end up like Jimmy Carter with a year-and-a-half-long hostage crisis that he's got no idea how to navigate.

It probably wouldn't do him any good to say, "I remind Col. Qaddafi that he has obligations under international law to permit American citizens to leave Libya safely, and the United States will hold him personally accountable for their safe passage out of his country."  Given Obama's track record, Qaddafi would take that as a green light to take hostages and call Obama's bluff.

But it's pretty repulsive to see an American President incapable of calling a vicious, murdering dictator a vicious, murdering dictator.

Posted by: stuiec at February 23, 2011 02:06 PM (Di3Im)

18 Tell Moammar it was only business, I always liked him.

Nice.  Which reminds me:  Abe Vigoda - Still Alive

Posted by: toby928™ at February 23, 2011 02:06 PM (GTbGH)

19 War on Terror = overseas contingency operations

Oppressive, sadistic dictator actively killing his people = volatile situation

Republicans trying to cut deficits = cruel torturers of the working man, women, and children

Posted by: FUBAR at February 23, 2011 02:07 PM (McG46)

20 Why?  Why? Why does he not mention Khadaffi?

WTF goes on here?

Posted by: Derak at February 23, 2011 02:07 PM (CjpKH)

21 You guys lighten up on The Won.  Tonight's the Wednesday evening cocktail party.  He's got to kick back and relax.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2011 02:08 PM (UOM48)

22 Work to discuss? How much work is it to discuss something? Just open your big mouth. Idiot. In fact aren't you discussing it now?

Posted by: Rocks at February 23, 2011 02:09 PM (th0op)

23 We should bomb the French embassy.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at February 23, 2011 02:10 PM (c5RQr)

24 I assume TOTUS couldn't render a proper spelling of Ghaddaffi. 

And Buckwheat is dead.   

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 23, 2011 02:10 PM (sIRFM)

25 Maybe I should do some speechifyin?

Posted by: Pieholus Africanus at February 23, 2011 02:10 PM (SJ6/3)

26 Yes, I'm sure Col. Bug Fuck nuts took Barry's week of silence by a non-condemnation condemnation as a sign of strength and made any American trapped in Libya fell all warm and fuzzy. How about this instead. Qadaffy, if one American is so much as scratched I will unleash all of the might of the United States military on you, personally. You won't be able to hide anywhere. We will find you and we will kill you.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2011 02:10 PM (TMB3S)

27 Actually, it probably should be the Arabic for "Fuck Me Harder, Mohammed", since our Muzzie-In-Chief bends that way (five times a day).

Posted by: Sharkman at February 23, 2011 02:10 PM (sqNU7)

28 Qadaffy is only doing his bad things to get attention. So to ignore him shows him he is not getting his way and he will stop. Another brilliant non-move by our 4th dimensional chess playing POTUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Barack Holster Media at February 23, 2011 02:10 PM (H8Ip6)

29 In other comments, President Obama also condemned the actions of some people against those other people during that thing in that place somewhere in Europe during the 1940's.

Posted by: catmman at February 23, 2011 02:10 PM (DTzwU)

30

Where are the links to the Qaddafi "Downfall" videos?

Posted by: stuiec at February 23, 2011 02:11 PM (Di3Im)

31 And set to "Rock Me Amadeus", perhaps? 

Posted by: Sharkman at February 23, 2011 02:11 PM (sqNU7)

32 It is as if Barky wants to see that $10gal/gas.  Ushers in all his hopes for a global governance as the US and western economy tumbles into the morass as well as a green economy that is not profitable until gas hits $7.

I told my lib friends they would be riding bicycles next year.  I didn't want to be right.


Posted by: Derak at February 23, 2011 02:12 PM (CjpKH)

33 Where are we going, and why am I in this hand basket?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2011 02:12 PM (UOM48)

34 Whatever.

Posted by: H. Badger at February 23, 2011 02:13 PM (t60fX)

35

It pains him too much to go after Terrorists and Socialists. 

He WILL NOT go after a Socialist Muslim.

Cloward-Piven by 2015!!!  Go, BHO!

 

Posted by: Q'daffy at February 23, 2011 02:13 PM (d7Px0)

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 23, 2011 02:14 PM (SJ6/3)

37 In other comments, President Obama also condemned the actions of some people against those other people during that thing in that place somewhere in Europe during the 1940's.

Posted by: catmman at February 23, 2011 06:10 PM (DTzwU)

I heard that.  And he saved his sternest condemnation for the group that first used atomic weapons on other groups.

Posted by: FUBAR at February 23, 2011 02:14 PM (McG46)

38

But it's pretty repulsive to see an American President incapable of calling a vicious, murdering dictator a vicious, murdering dictator.

Posted by: stuiec at February 23, 2011 06:06 PM (Di3Im)

Obama might be holding back on the rhetoric because he has a State Dinner lined up to honor Qaddafi as a humanitarian.

Makes as much sense as anything else he does.

 

Posted by: ErikW at February 23, 2011 02:14 PM (H+suL)

39 Come on, the Secretary of State already used her stern voice to scold Libya.  That's smart diplomacy.  Why do you honey badger the President so?

Posted by: Nash Rambler at February 23, 2011 02:14 PM (9IOHF)

40 doing everything we can to protect American citizens You're not lying but that's the problem: you're pansies who can't do anything! At least send a big "Overcharge" button over there...

Posted by: t-bird at February 23, 2011 02:14 PM (FcR7P)

41 I don't think I want tangible American action here.

I don't either but we don't have to pretend we are doing something either. The President should be stating we support peace and freedom. Something that has been in very short supply in the middle east for a long time and we will support anyone who embraces those goals as America defines them.

Posted by: Rocks at February 23, 2011 02:14 PM (th0op)

42

Sign behind Eric Holder's desk:

WHITES ONLY!

Posted by: DOJ at February 23, 2011 02:15 PM (d7Px0)

43 Does anyone care about this? Is there a single good reason to champion these arbitrary lines and larger-than-needed-or-wanted states which unite tribes that don't want to be under a single authority?

This is a big f*cking deal!

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 23, 2011 02:15 PM (H8Ip6)

44 Let the muzzies slaughter each other. Allah knows his own.

Posted by: bigred HO HO HEY HEY HOW MANY JOBS BARACK KILL TODAY? at February 23, 2011 02:15 PM (cX9pO)

45 Can't we all just eat some pudding..?

Posted by: bho at February 23, 2011 02:15 PM (d7Px0)

46 Did he blame that Palin chick yet?

Posted by: Zombie Walter Cronkite at February 23, 2011 02:16 PM (mwn2O)

47 On the upside, new maps will have to be drawn, providing much-needed Pencil Ready jobs.

Posted by: fb at February 23, 2011 02:16 PM (G60Nl)

48 "These actions violate international norms and every standard of common decency. This violence must stop."

Yes, this nugget will change the hearts and minds of the oppressors lickety-split.

"If only we had known."


Posted by: Fritz at February 23, 2011 02:16 PM (/8mBu)

49 While our F-15Es from Lakenheath are on the way to Tripoli, we could bomb Paris...on second thought, I like Paris, particularly the live sex shows (that knocked Jack Ryan out of the race and allowed Obama to win his Senate seat and build up a huge bankroll).  We could do the French a favor and bomb Marseilles. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 23, 2011 02:16 PM (sIRFM)

50 Does anyone care about this?
Yes. It's not a do or die issue but Balkanisation is not good. It increases costs all around and makes it harder to do business. Most of the tribes want independence simply to get their own check from us.

Posted by: Rocks at February 23, 2011 02:17 PM (th0op)

51 do we care if Libya splits into seven more homogeneous tribal regions? One family per oil well and then you've got a lot of people with incentive to resist Caliph-elect Obama.

Posted by: t-bird at February 23, 2011 02:17 PM (FcR7P)

52 I don't think I want tangible American action here.

How come?  Any unrest that affects the world affects the US disproportionately.  We dominate trade and we dominate oil consumption.  We should do what it takes to secure the oil supplies.  For ourselves, and for the whole world, especially the poor people of the world.  See how altruistic?

Posted by: FUBAR at February 23, 2011 02:17 PM (McG46)

53 Susan Estrich.  What an ugly POS.

Posted by: Soona at February 23, 2011 02:18 PM (hypVB)

54

 

Never say never.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 23, 2011 02:18 PM (QMtmy)

Posted by: curious at February 23, 2011 02:18 PM (p302b)

56 "tribe-controlled regions"

That's funny right there.

It's like at some point Libya was NOT made up of tribe-controlled regions. For example it's like moHAMmahr was never beholdin' to some familial self elected leader of a group with claims to a particular heritage/lineage.

Or maybe there isn't a couple of TRIBAL CHIEFTAINS that have already told colonel crazy pants to get out of dodge. I'm sure there isn't one specific tribe-controlled region that RUNS THE OIL business in Libya.

Seriously what was that idiot smokin'?

Posted by: Blacksmith8 at February 23, 2011 02:19 PM (Q1qy3)

57

Caute ut usu porta non ut ferias them exeatis.

Posted by: Stuff Caesar Said, vol I. at February 23, 2011 02:19 PM (QKKT0)

58 So he can lash-out at Mubarak but he will not go after Qadafi-- and all this while people are being murdered.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 23, 2011 02:19 PM (yfJ6g)

59 Susan Estrich.  What an ugly POS.

Posted by: Soona at February 23, 2011 06:18 PM (hypVB)

But she has such a lovely singing voice!

Posted by: ErikW at February 23, 2011 02:19 PM (H+suL)

60 NATO has been thoroughly defanged.  While they interceded to stop Mohammedans being killed in Bosnia/Kosovo, they don't intercede to stop Mohammedans being killed by sand people from Tatooine. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 23, 2011 02:20 PM (sIRFM)

61

Given the huge amount of trouble in this part of the world, and their inability to run functional modern-style governments, shouldn't we be in favor of smaller states?

The international community just went to a lot of effort to assist the southern Sudanese in holding a referendum on splitting off the southern provinces of Sudan into a new independent country.  It passed overwhelmingly.

Recall also that NATO used a lot of military force to midwife the creation of an independent Kosovo -- which had been a province of Serbia proper, not a separate former Yugoslav republic like Slovenia, Bosnia or Croatia.

And of course the granddaddy of all international efforts to create a new statelet is the Palestinian independence program.

Splitting off smaller states from bigger ones isn't always the right answer -- it's what the Aztlan activists want to do with the US Southwest -- but it can be a good thing, if the old national boundaries don't reflect any real shared national identity.

Posted by: stuiec at February 23, 2011 02:20 PM (Di3Im)

62 Libya's Legacy:

Why the overthrow of Qaddafi might matter more than the events in Egypt and Tunisia.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 23, 2011 02:20 PM (c0A3e)

63 I'm all for allowing these Arab states to fall back into the feudalistic tribalism that they sprang from.

It would give them the opportunity of a more proximate target for releasing their aggressions.

And the loss of oil production there would put put force a really uncomfortable "discussion" for Obama on the merits of domestic energy production.

Posted by: krakatoa at February 23, 2011 02:21 PM (a0Jhx)

64 Arabs == "slightly-demented loser little brothers" - I'm so stealing that.


Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 23, 2011 02:21 PM (RJ+Yj)

65 Damn, and i left my green book at home.

Posted by: nine coconuts at February 23, 2011 02:21 PM (DHNp4)

66 Susan Estrich.  What an ugly POS.

Posted by: Soona at February 23, 2011 06:18 PM (hypVB)

But she has such a lovely singing voice!

Posted by: ErikW at February 23, 2011 06:19 PM (H+suL)

First, she had a lot of plastic surgery done.  So she looks a lot better these days.

And second, who else would you want singing the key role in Aristophanes's The Frogs?

Posted by: stuiec at February 23, 2011 02:22 PM (Di3Im)

67 Ace, how would oil be affected if it split? That is important. Or do we not get any from Libya?

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at February 23, 2011 02:22 PM (c5RQr)

68 My cousin does oilfield work, and just recently came back form Libya.  He was in no hurry to ever go back.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at February 23, 2011 02:23 PM (0IPsJ)

69 The only justifiable US military action is to take over some oil fields.

Posted by: Bugler at February 23, 2011 02:23 PM (VXBR1)

70 I say, let 'em break up into a bunch of little "tribe-controlled regions," and then cut a deal with whichever one gets the piece with the oil in it.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at February 23, 2011 02:23 PM (Jdtsu)

71

Q, What's the Latin for "Fuck Me Harder, Mohammed!"?

A. I prefer Arabic, if you please.



Posted by: Mohammed at February 23, 2011 02:24 PM (0IPsJ)

72

American involvement gives them what they most need -- a scapegoat, someone to blame their failures on.

I could be wrong.

You're not wrong.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at February 23, 2011 02:24 PM (w41GQ)

73 You can bring a horse to water but you can fuck a goat.

Posted by: Old Arab Saying at February 23, 2011 02:26 PM (yr+62)

74 68 My cousin does oilfield work, and just recently came back form Libya.  He was in no hurry to ever go back.

My cousin lubes up Lesbians.  Oddly enough, he doesn't find it all that rewarding either.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 23, 2011 02:26 PM (sIRFM)

75 67 Ace, how would oil be affected if it split? That is important. Or do we not get any from Libya?

I don't think we get much, if any, directly from Libya, but Libya provides a good deal of Europe's oil and when their production goes off line, the entire oil pool is affected and the Saudis will be hard pressed to make it up.

Bottom line - 100 dollars might be the new baseline if Libya splits from a civil war. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 23, 2011 02:27 PM (c0A3e)

76 "These actions violate international norms and every standard of common decency. This violence must stop."

Yes, this nugget will change the hearts and minds of the oppressors lickety-split.

"If only we had known."

Posted by: Fritz at February 23, 2011 06:16 PM (/8mBu)

I like how he's telling the violence to stop.  "Stop, Violence!  Stop, I say!"

The violence doesn't have ears.  First rule of statement-making: address your statements to things that have ears, preferably creatures, especially humans, and ideally those humans who can actually do something about what your statement is about..

Posted by: stuiec at February 23, 2011 02:27 PM (Di3Im)

77

Traditionally, we have supported nation-states in this region (even in areas where nation-states didn't make sense) because we want to deal with larger governmental and legal entities for stable, longer-lasting, and easier economic transactions. For example, we don't want to cut an oil deal with eight ethnic groups in Libya. We want to cut a deal with the strong-arm dictator that allows our companies to explore relatively large regions, build and maintain capital, and count on consistent profits without continuous concerns about instability.

 

Posted by: Paper at February 23, 2011 02:27 PM (VoSja)

78 Remember when Russia invaded Georgia? He called for both sides to exercise restraint!

After a few days, he changed his mind to the same position John McCain was saying. "Russia needs to get out of Georgia."

Did anyone expect him to help?

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 02:28 PM (/G5LI)

79 I don't think I want tangible American action here.

We now have good evidence that sick F* ordered the Pan Am strike.
We can't do worse than we already have.
He has already murdered US civilians from his ivory tower.
I see no good reason not to install some extra half inch ventilation in his cranium, then maybe the follow on will be a little more respectful, and maybe the protesters *might* appreciate the help.


Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 23, 2011 02:28 PM (0q2P7)

80 I would say a breakup is a good thing, as long as the pieces are small enough. Maybe molecular sized. Certainly nothing bigger than a in3 or so.

Posted by: nine coconuts at February 23, 2011 02:28 PM (DHNp4)

81

And second, who else would you want singing the key role in Aristophanes's The Frogs?

Posted by: stuiec at February 23, 2011 06:22 PM (Di3Im)

I don't know, ask Monty.

The fuck is this, Greek Play Wednesdays?

Posted by: ErikW at February 23, 2011 02:28 PM (H+suL)

82 Let me be clear.  What I will not stand for is a Democratic Honduras.

Posted by: Barack Obama at February 23, 2011 02:29 PM (yr+62)

83 Flapjackmaka - I assume you mean the price of oil.

You already see some of the effect of conflict. It isn't like we pick and choose whom we buy oil from.

We buy much of our oil from OPEC, of which Libya is a member. If one producer drops off and others can't compensate for the supply deficiency, prices go up.

If Libya dissolved into smaller states, I would presume they would sign their own contracts with OPEC. So long as the production quotas were met, there shouldn't be any large impact on prices.

However, I think it is pretty obvious that the infrastructure would pretty quickly fall apart due to inter-tribal quarreling & just the general lack expertise in maintaining production.



Posted by: krakatoa at February 23, 2011 02:29 PM (a0Jhx)

84 Moamar Qaddafi? Never heard of him.

[And I am disappointed in you morons. 75 comments in and this is the first Gibson comment?]

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at February 23, 2011 02:30 PM (LH6ir)

85 I don't think we get much, if any, directly from Libya, but Libya provides a good deal of Europe's oil and when their production goes off line, the entire oil pool is affected and the Saudis will be hard pressed to make it up.

Bottom line - 100 dollars might be the new baseline if Libya splits from a civil war. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 23, 2011 06:27 PM (c0A3e)

Splitting up Libya and giving each region incentives to profit from oil development in its own territory will likely cause Libyan oil exports to boom.  There currently isn't much incentive for Libyans as a people to care about oil exports because Qaddafi rips off all the profits.

Plus the new regional oil development corporations might prefer to do business with US exploration and production companies because BP was so deeply in bed with Moammar.

Posted by: stuiec at February 23, 2011 02:31 PM (Di3Im)

86

The process of creating all of the fractured pieces into individual countries and trying to deal with oil wealth and other natural resources is the recipe for another Sudan.

Posted by: Paper at February 23, 2011 02:31 PM (VoSja)

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 23, 2011 02:32 PM (SJ6/3)

88 75 Kratos -

Not just that, *would* they?  After all, they can comfortably watch oil prices rise and just throw up their hands and say "we just don't have the resources to ramp up production!  And what can *we* do about Libya?"  $100 might be a low baseline - we still got issues, what with Iran moving through the Suez Canal.  How long before that starts messing with oil supply to Europe?

the sinner,

Patrick

Posted by: Patrick at February 23, 2011 02:32 PM (lBWBq)

89

we would be better off in the middle east if we adopted a policy of never supporting dictators, that doesn't mean we have to support hostile islamic theocracies.

that leaves one middle-eastern country to support... you know which one.

we drill our own oil and let the ragheads rot in the sand, they will be begging us for food in no time.

Posted by: Sgt. Batguano at February 23, 2011 02:33 PM (ehKDD)

90 stuiec: "I remind Col. Qaddafi that he has obligations under international law..."

Heh. "Law." Even an international one which Obama would consider divine if it damaged the U.S. Now that's funny at at least two levels. Like Charlie Gibson, neither man ever heard of it.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 23, 2011 02:33 PM (swuwV)

91 I just love how all of Daffy's cronies are resigning and beating feet. Dude, they can hear it, the music has stopped, and they don't want to be the last guy standing with Daffy when the gate comes down.

Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 23, 2011 02:33 PM (0q2P7)

92 >>> Ace, how would oil be affected if it split? That is important. Or do we not get any from Libya? Oil is fungible so it doesn't matter if we get it directly from them or not. It's still all part of the global supply and influences global scarcity and prices. I don't think that matters to us. It probably matters a lot to the British, who have some kind of investment in Libya thanks to BP.

Posted by: ace at February 23, 2011 02:33 PM (nj1bB)

93 There is a lot more to this story.

Why couldn't we land a plane to evacuate?
Why weren't we more prepared a lot sooner?
Did other countries refuse to lend us nearby assets, maybe in payback for being treated like shit?
Did the whole admin. just forget about this issues and then suddenly remember Carter and Iran and say "oh shit"?

And what americans is he evacuating? Who does business with Libya besides the oil companies and code pink?

Posted by: nine coconuts at February 23, 2011 02:34 PM (DHNp4)

94 Ace,

Tribalism was the norm for many years, and the rise of Islamist power is correlated with oil revenue and the creation of these unnatural Arab states.

Any fracturing of the idea of a pan-Arab Africa or ME is a good thing for the world, because unifying 500 tribes behind global domination through Jihad will be much more difficult than unifying a few countries that are controlled by the typical Arab despot.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 23, 2011 02:34 PM (LH6ir)

95

There won't be incentives to invest if there is not political stability. There are a large number of ethnic groups and tribal loyalties, but there are not clearly demarcated areas where these separate groups live. Nearly half of the country's population is concentrated in or within 20 miles of the three largest cities.

Posted by: Paper at February 23, 2011 02:35 PM (VoSja)

96 some kind of investment in Libya

Locke*COUGH*rbie

Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 23, 2011 02:35 PM (0q2P7)

97 Obama is probably following the instructions of the Saudi king.  Remember, he told Obama not to humiliate Mubarak. Of course, this was after Obama had already humiliated Mubarak, but he changed his tone after that.  So, maybe Obama figures he'll piss off the Saudi king again if dares speak the name of Qadhafi.

Posted by: sillyme at February 23, 2011 02:35 PM (+zLTj)

98 I would say that there is no problem with them splitting up into tribal regions, except that they will war over which tribe gets the oil wells, which doesn't really bother me, except for oil won't be produced for years, which doesn't bother me since its their oil, except for gas prices, which wouldn't bother me if WE COULD JUST DRILL OUR OWN DAMN OIL, except prez odipstick makes sure we don't, which is what bothers me.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 23, 2011 02:35 PM (xdHzq)

99 toby928™: "Which reminds me: Abe Vigoda - Still Alive"

Too bad about Jeff Goldblum, though.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 23, 2011 02:35 PM (swuwV)

100 I don't buy Rocks notion of balkanization being bad for business as it increases costs. There isn't much business going on in Libya with any consequence to us except oil production. Same with 90% of Arab and Muslim countries. These countries are all much more troublesome than they are helpful. Anything that makes it harder for one chieftain to become powerful and project power abroad is better for us.

Posted by: ace at February 23, 2011 02:35 PM (nj1bB)

101

Ace ,

 

The number 1 reason to keep it as one state, resources.

The oil is only in certain regions. countless wars will be fought over those resources. It is easier if they are sharing them in one state.

 

 

Posted by: Ben at February 23, 2011 02:36 PM (DKV43)

102 Why couldn't we land a plane to evacuate? O
Why weren't we more prepared a lot sooner? O
Did other countries refuse to lend us nearby assets, maybe in payback for being treated like shit? O
Did the whole admin. just forget about this issues and then suddenly remember Carter and Iran and say "oh shit"? O

Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 23, 2011 02:36 PM (0q2P7)

103

Anyone else get the feeling that maybe we're not looking at another Carter, that we need a Reagan to fix the problems.  And in actuality we're looking at another John Adams, and we need a Jefferson to stop the muslim pirates.

 

Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2011 02:36 PM (oVQFe)

104 #85  Splitting up Libya and giving each region incentives to profit from oil development in its own territory will likely cause Libyan oil exports to boom.  There currently isn't much incentive for Libyans as a people to care about oil exports because Qaddafi rips off all the profits.

Good point.  Let's hope for this scenario then, as it would be beneficial for everyone. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 23, 2011 02:36 PM (c0A3e)

105 I'm still waiting for the Gipper to plant a tomahawk in K-daffy's ass, - 'cause you know, dubya did it for his daddy.

Posted by: Fritz, channeling an MBM meme at February 23, 2011 02:36 PM (/8mBu)

106 At this point, I only want to see as little violence as possible.  Except I want to see as painful as possible a death for The Colonel....

Posted by: ParisParamus at February 23, 2011 02:37 PM (aOpxx)

107 Charlie Gibson?  I don't give a shit.

Posted by: Honey Badger at February 23, 2011 02:37 PM (9IOHF)

108 Charlie Rangel and Susan Estrich Sing the Hits!


Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 02:37 PM (cK4d/)

109

American involvement gives them what they most need -- a scapegoat, someone to blame their failures on.

I could be wrong.

You're not wrong.

 

I think the main problem is that we couldn't even if we wanted to.  Our military is almost at it's end with the deployments we're involved in now.  The blame for that can be shared by both sides of the aisle.

Posted by: Soona at February 23, 2011 02:39 PM (hypVB)

110

Splitting up Libya and giving each region incentives to profit from oil development in its own territory will likely cause Libyan oil exports to boom.  There currently isn't much incentive for Libyans as a people to care about oil exports because Qaddafi rips off all the profits.

Plus the new regional oil development corporations might prefer to do business with US exploration and production companies because BP was so deeply in bed with Moammar.

I think this is possible, but you're thinking like Westerners. We're dealing with tribal Arabs who will no longer have Quadaffi's hard boot up their ass to dissuade them from settling centuries worth of grievances with the other tribes....plus, they will all probably start fighting over the oil, too. They just don't act like we do.

Posted by: MissTammy at February 23, 2011 02:39 PM (BebB7)

111 Obama issues a nuanced condemnation for the idea of violence without mentioning the man ordering human slaughter in Libya. Obama owes Qadhafi, the Muslim world bundling financier during his '08 primary elections. Even with Qadhafi in the outs, it would be extremely bad Islamic form for Obama to bite the hand that fed him. Not that Obama won't toss Qadhafi under the bus. But Present Obama's in no hurry since Qadhafi bitterly promises to take down as many as possible as he "martyrs" Libya. Welcome Guantanamo released prisoner heading the Jihadist emirate on the Libyan Mediterranean coast.


Posted by: El Presidenté at February 23, 2011 02:40 PM (H+LJc)

112 >>>The number 1 reason to keep it as one state, resources. The oil is only in certain regions. countless wars will be fought over those resources. It is easier if they are sharing them in one state. Wouldn't you guess that more war = higher costs = more oil needing to be pumped? I just don't see the reason for a rooting interest in a fucked-up state that doesn't exist except on paper.

Posted by: ace at February 23, 2011 02:40 PM (nj1bB)

113 Hahahahaha THIS:

7

He should have a new seal to hang on his podium for foreign policy pronouncements.

What's the Latin for "Fuck Me Harder, Mohammed!"?


Posted by: Sock Puppet 5000 at February 23, 2011 02:40 PM (W58PC)

114 Libya used to be 3 separate Italian colonies, so it might become those again

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at February 23, 2011 02:41 PM (UqKQV)

115 101

Ace ,

 

The number 1 reason to keep it as one state, resources.

The oil is only in certain regions. countless wars will be fought over those resources. It is easier if they are sharing them in one state.

 

 

Posted by: Ben at February 23, 2011 06:36 PM (DKV43)

 

and they will still fight over it endlessly, let them fight it out then the fighting will be done.

individuals can share if they so choose, nations, countries, tribes, clans don't do sharing so well, they fight until there is a clear winner and a clear loser, then the fight is settled, if they aren't allowed to fight the hatred and anomosity just goes on, and on, and on.

Posted by: Sgt. Batguano at February 23, 2011 02:41 PM (ehKDD)

116 Libya -- This week's Highest Priority of the Week Previous HPotw winners: ObamaCare, jobs, the economy, our standing in the world, education...

Posted by: 29Victor at February 23, 2011 02:41 PM (ES9R7)

117 These countries are all much more troublesome than they are helpful. Anything that makes it harder for one chieftain to become powerful and project power abroad is better for us.

Dude the big GOD must be laughing his arse off. He turns irony up to 11 and sticks one of the most perfect naturally occurring fuels and resources right under the feet of one of the most technologically backwards combative cultures, then grabs a bucket of pop-corn.


Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 23, 2011 02:41 PM (0q2P7)

118 I said earlier maybe we should be buying oil.  I mean some are saying $220 a barrel isn't going to seem like a lot.  But at $150 a barrel it has been shown that our economy gets real stressed. 

Posted by: curious at February 23, 2011 02:42 PM (p302b)

119

#107

you go Honey Badger!

Posted by: Sgt. Batguano at February 23, 2011 02:42 PM (ehKDD)

120 Why couldn't we land a plane to evacuate?

Airstrips bombed.

Posted by: El Presidenté at February 23, 2011 02:42 PM (H+LJc)

121 >>>I think the main problem is that we couldn't even if we wanted to Well I tend to think that airpower-wise we could manage it. It's not like Libya's own airpower would take long to destroy. But I don't think I'd advise it either way. Whatever happens, they will look for scapegoats and patrons from whom they demand money.

Posted by: ace at February 23, 2011 02:42 PM (nj1bB)

122 Does anyone think George Clooney will give half a shit what happens to any of these people as long as there is a Democrat in the White House?

In 2013, every limp dick in Hollywood will be demanding a humanitarian mission to Libya.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 02:43 PM (cK4d/)

123 Wouldn't you guess that more war = higher costs = more oil needing to be pumped?

Not if they fight with long pointy sticks.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 23, 2011 02:44 PM (xdHzq)

124 Unless there is some colonial force or influence from the West, don't look for progress from any of these events in the region.  The best we can hope for in that situation is entropy, the second worst is outright chaos, and the absolute worst is outright evil (The Islamic State).

The arrested culture of the Middle East is won't fix itself.  The best it can arrange for itself is being conquered by one strongman for a while.

Posted by: nickless at February 23, 2011 02:44 PM (MMC8r)

125 The focus on Europe is slightly misplaced I think. The world's second largest consumer of oil is China, second only to us. And their demand is spiking as China modernizes. Currently, China gets almost 60% of their oil from the middle east and Africa and that includes Iran. China has been very active in the middle east and their two way trade has been exploding in recent years. There is going to be a huge leadership vacuum and chaos in the middle east for the foreseeable future. Anybody who thinks China is not going to take this opportunity to increase their influence in this vital region is kidding themselves. And Barry Obama is leading our effort. Anyone feel confident?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2011 02:44 PM (TMB3S)

126 >>>However, I think it is pretty obvious that the infrastructure would pretty quickly fall apart due to inter-tribal quarreling & just the general lack expertise in maintaining production. Why do you assume they'd be any worse at it than a larger state?

Posted by: ace at February 23, 2011 02:44 PM (nj1bB)

127 121 >>>I think the main problem is that we couldn't even if we wanted to

Well I tend to think that airpower-wise we could manage it. It's not like Libya's own airpower would take long to destroy.

But I don't think I'd advise it either way. Whatever happens, they will look for scapegoats and patrons from whom they demand money.

Posted by: ace at February 23, 2011 06:42 PM (nj1bB)

 

yep, we drop one bomb, we pay for everything!

we can't afford it.

Posted by: Sgt. Batguano at February 23, 2011 02:44 PM (ehKDD)

128 122 Does anyone think George Clooney will give half a shit what happens to any of these people as long as there is a Democrat in the White House?

In 2013, every limp dick in Hollywood will be demanding a humanitarian mission to Libya.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 06:43 PM (cK4d/)

Yeah, the raging about the plight in Darfur seems to be completely gone right now.

Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2011 02:45 PM (oVQFe)

129

The asswipe can spout off every damn day on Egypt, but it takes him this long to say absofuckinglutely nothing, primarily because he's a feckless coward.  The SOB doesn't give a shit about anything here or abroad unless it benefits him politically, so when he does say something his words are calculated on that alone. 

WTF, indeed.

Posted by: Steph at February 23, 2011 02:45 PM (AkdC5)

130

The fragmented state idea might work, but there are many challenges.

Take the Sudan. Most of the oil is in Southern Sudan, but the port is in Northern Sudan. This means that both parts have to work together in order to bring oil to market. This is probably a good thing long-term for Northern and Southern Sudan.

Will Libya be the same way? I don't know, but I don't think so. How would the country break up? Most of the population lives in or near the three largest cities on the Mediterrean coast anyways, so the breakup of most of the rest of the region only matters for resource reasons anyways.

Posted by: Paper at February 23, 2011 02:45 PM (VoSja)

131

The process of creating all of the fractured pieces into individual countries and trying to deal with oil wealth and other natural resources is the recipe for another Sudan.

Posted by: Paper at February 23, 2011 06:31 PM (VoSja)

But the current process in Sudan is the decomposition of the country into smaller independent countries, because the larger conglomeration couldn't hold together in a stable fashion.

Iraq is a better example of a country that would be excessively difficult to split up.  For starters, giving the Kurdish north independence would inflame Turkey and Iran by making it appear that their own Kurdish provinces deserved independence.

Posted by: stuiec at February 23, 2011 02:45 PM (Di3Im)

132

RE oil companies: "Libya is one of the worldÂ’s biggest oil producers and has the largest proven oil reserves in the whole of Africa. Eni, ItalyÂ’s largest natural gas and oil company, is the biggest oil company operating in Libya, where it has at least six contracts alongside the Libyan state oil company."

Shell and Exxon-Mobil are among the other companies that have and are drilling in Libya.

 

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 23, 2011 02:46 PM (yfJ6g)

133 I don't get that. Why do we care if Libya splits into seven more homogeneous tribal regions?

That argument should apply as well to why it mattered whether Iraq post-Hussein split into three or so ethnic/cultural regions. It isn't as if keeping Iraq "united" has taught them to get along or to function responsibly as one amalgamated population, despite being spoon fed with a decade of training and bribes.

Posted by: El Presidenté at February 23, 2011 02:46 PM (H+LJc)

134
Well I tend to think that airpower-wise we could manage it. It's not like Libya's own airpower would take long to destroy.

You're gonna bomb Malta?!

Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2011 02:46 PM (VuLos)

135 "Whatever happens, they will look for scapegoats and patrons from whom they demand money." -- Ace

Regardless of what we do this situation is going to cost us money. The price of oil has increased by 10% already. How about if the calculus becomes a simple: Keep the oil flowing to the best of our ability, as long as no Americans get killed."

We have always been accused of starting wars for oil, even though that is bullshit. Maybe this time we should work on self-interest, and nothing else?

And yes, this will never come to pass. I ain't stupid.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 23, 2011 02:46 PM (LH6ir)

136 Regarding the fracturing of Libya, that may be right, but if Saudi falls it will definitely be true.

It'll be every prince for himself.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 02:46 PM (T0NGe)

137 Does anyone think George Clooney will give half a shit what happens to any of these people as long as there is a Democrat in the White House?

I believe Mr Clooney is on record saying that Bush was very helpful with Darfur, far more than than Obambi. On Stewart's or Mahr's show, no less.

Posted by: MissTammy at February 23, 2011 02:47 PM (BebB7)

138 This expert wasn't necessarily against Libya splitting into smaller states, but his general tone was one of alarm. I don't get that. Why do we care if Libya splits into seven more homogeneous tribal regions? Given the huge amount of trouble in this part of the world, and their inability to run functional modern-style governments, shouldn't we be in favor of smaller states? Smaller states are one thing. Tribal areas is another. We're not talking about Czechoslovakia splitting into the Czech Republic and Slovakia. The more apt comparison is Libya changing into a big Somalia - with lots of oil. Think of Somali warlords. Now think of WELL FINANCED Somali warlords just a short hop from Southern Europe.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at February 23, 2011 02:47 PM (rQ2EG)

139

Do we have some sentimentalism about our old maps? Do we fear having to draw new ones?

Yes and Yes. See Oil.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 23, 2011 02:48 PM (ujg0T)

140 The arrested culture of the Middle East is won't fix itself.  The best it can arrange for itself is being conquered by one strongman for a while.

Posted by: nickless at February 23, 2011 06:44 PM (MMC8r)

 

Sometimes I think that the old colonial system wasn't all that bad.

Posted by: Soona at February 23, 2011 02:48 PM (hypVB)

141 That argument should apply as well to why it mattered whether Iraq post-Hussein split into three or so ethnic/cultural regions. It isn't as if keeping Iraq "united" has taught them to get along or to function responsibly as one amalgamated population, despite being spoon fed with a decade of training and bribes.

Posted by: El Presidenté at February 23, 2011 06:46 PM (H+LJc)

In Iraq's case, the splitting would have been a disaster.  The tripartition people talked about would result in a Shia region that would have been a proxy for Iran and Turkey would have done some nasty stuff to the Kurds.

For Libya, I don't think that this holds. None of its neighbors will use it as a proxy and we might be able to get a look inside and see some WMD-related stuff still there.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 02:50 PM (T0NGe)

142

Iraq is a better example of a country that would be excessively difficult to split up.  For starters, giving the Kurdish north independence would inflame Turkey and Iran by making it appear that their own Kurdish provinces deserved independence.

Posted by: stuiec at February 23, 2011 06:45 PM (Di3Im)

You say this like it's a bad thing. That is a fine idea. It will keep the Turks occupied, it will put tremendous pressure on the Iranians, who probably couldn't handle it, and it would make the Kurds a bit more pro-American.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 23, 2011 02:50 PM (LH6ir)

143 Sure hope all those oil engineers are out of there. They will be very tempting targets.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 02:50 PM (cK4d/)

144 what does james joseph think about this?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 23, 2011 02:50 PM (eOXTH)

145

Is there a single good reason to champion these arbitrary lines and larger-than-needed-or-wanted states which unite tribes that don't want to be under a single authority?

...

Given the huge amount of trouble in this part of the world, and their inability to run functional modern-style governments, shouldn't we be in favor of smaller states?

There is a danger of one or more of these tribes degenerating into tribalism, nd potentially extremely Islamic tribalism; see Somalia, Afghanistan, maybe Yemen, Sudan.  Islamic tribes would likely receive all sorts of political support from the MoBro and the Saudis, and maybe money, advisors on how to handle their oil wealth, ...... fighters, like we see in the remains of Yugoslavia.

This is right in the backyard of Europe.  Whether this will serve the current European governments and leftists (it should put a real knobbed plug in Greece, due to proximity), it will cause instability in the region.

Italy (proximity & length of coastline) is in real danger.  Spain, southern Fwance and Greece (and Greece has a larger islamic alien internal problem and a much larger quasi-islamic neighbor with whom they've had a multi-century blood feud) are about a step behind.

There is something to be said for stepping in, and keeping the car keys out of the hands of the locals.

But helping to whack Moammar & friends, then waiting and seeing how things turn out might be better.  Libya is much more accessable than Afghanistan, and the Euros are much more likely to be willing to go back in.

Posted by: Arbalest at February 23, 2011 02:51 PM (jpLPD)

146 Joe Biden: "This is a big f*cking deal!"

Speaking of Joe, where ya been, buddy? Surely you have some spellbinding insights to regale us with besides your favorite flavored ice cream. You are the international affairs expert.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 23, 2011 02:51 PM (swuwV)

147 Why don't we just take over the oil fields? Kick all the ragheads out and apply a 10-mile lethal force exclusion zone. Pump and ship the oil out, and let the Arabs revert to their primitive goat-shagging ways. Arabs would need the oil if they could produce enough engineers, electricians etc to run a town on 1950s technology, but these jobs are done by foreign labour everywhere in the Arab world, most of whom would leave.

Posted by: Fortunata at February 23, 2011 02:51 PM (90H1N)

148 46 Did he blame that Palin chick yet?

Posted by: Zombie Walter Cronkite at February 23, 2011 06:16 PM (mwn2O)


That's what this place is for. Toonces is a busy guy ya know.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd at February 23, 2011 02:51 PM (eCAn3)

149 Now think of WELL FINANCED Somali warlords just a short hop from Southern Europe.--

I fapped.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 02:51 PM (cK4d/)

150 138
This expert wasn't necessarily against Libya splitting into smaller states, but his general tone was one of alarm.

I don't get that. Why do we care if Libya splits into seven more homogeneous tribal regions?

Given the huge amount of trouble in this part of the world, and their inability to run functional modern-style governments, shouldn't we be in favor of smaller states?


Smaller states are one thing. Tribal areas is another. We're not talking about Czechoslovakia splitting into the Czech Republic and Slovakia. The more apt comparison is Libya changing into a big Somalia - with lots of oil. Think of Somali warlords. Now think of WELL FINANCED Somali warlords just a short hop from Southern Europe.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at February 23, 2011 06:47 PM (rQ2EG)

 

there is a solution to that problem... they mess with us we kill them, we don't arrest them, we don't try them, we don't pay for any damage done, we don't apologize, we don't ask for permission, they fuck with us, we kill them, we go home. end of problem.

Posted by: Sgt. Batguano at February 23, 2011 02:52 PM (ehKDD)

151

For Libya, I don't think that this holds. None of its neighbors will use it as a proxy and we might be able to get a look inside and see some WMD-related stuff still there.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 06:50 PM (T0NGe)

Maybe not eye it as a proxy, but to take it back to the Iraq analogy, could they see the splintered portions of Libya with its oil and decide that they will play the Saddam to its Kuwait?

Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2011 02:52 PM (oVQFe)

152

Sometimes I think that the old colonial system wasn't all that bad.

Posted by: Soona at February 23, 2011 06:48 PM (hypVB)


India wouldn't be where it is today without the British.  And China learned one helluva lot from the Brits in Hong Kong.

And we were a colony, too, so there's probably a limit to how long that good influence can last before you start electing self-loathing commie imbeciles.

Posted by: nickless at February 23, 2011 02:53 PM (MMC8r)

153  Sure hope all those oil engineers are out of there. They will be very tempting targets.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 06:50 PM (cK4d/)

 

Are you talking about Libya or the Gulf of Mexico?

Posted by: Soona at February 23, 2011 02:53 PM (hypVB)

154 So the EU countries started pulling when the trouble started and moved more quickly starting Monday. While the EU has been holding teleconferences and meetings about the issue, Obama has been doing what exactly? Seriously, the socialist pansy EU is more focused on this than the Obama Administration.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 23, 2011 02:53 PM (yfJ6g)

155 Both. Now that we have Hamas in Mexico.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 02:54 PM (cK4d/)

156

You say this like it's a bad thing. That is a fine idea. It will keep the Turks occupied, it will put tremendous pressure on the Iranians, who probably couldn't handle it, and it would make the Kurds a bit more pro-American Dead.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 23, 2011 06:50 PM (LH6ir)

FTFY

Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2011 02:54 PM (oVQFe)

157

Do we have some sentimentalism about our old maps?

I don't know about the maps, but they were waving the Libyan flag an awful lot at the Daytona 500 this weekend.

Posted by: FireHorse at February 23, 2011 02:54 PM (k3RPu)

158 Think of Somali warlords. Now think of WELL FINANCED Somali warlords just a short hop from Southern Europe.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at February 23, 2011 06:47 PM (rQ2EG)

Yeah, but if it's as chaotic as is suggested, they won't be able to operate wells without sabotage.

Ultimately, it'd be like having 3 little Qadaffys except with a lot less power each.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 02:55 PM (T0NGe)

159

They invented the "Red Phone" so the USSR and USA could communicate in a crisis.

Why can't we invent a "Present Button" Barak Huisain Obama can push to effectively communicate to the American people in a crisis?

MFM can lede with story "BHO pushed the Present Button 2 times today.........

Posted by: Jake_in_Idaho at February 23, 2011 02:55 PM (vrDK+)

160

>>>The number 1 reason to keep it as one state, resources.

The oil is only in certain regions. countless wars will be fought over those resources. It is easier if they are sharing them in one state.

Wouldn't you guess that more war = higher costs = more oil needing to be pumped?

I just don't see the reason for a rooting interest in a fucked-up state that doesn't exist except on paper.

I would think more war in that region would result in less oil being produced. I'm not sure how you would think war would result in more oil being produced.

 

Don't get me wrong. I'm in no way sentimental about a state that came into in existence in 1911 after Italy picked off three large regions from a dying Ottoman Empire and turned them into a colonial state.

It's a small country, i think 5 or 6 million people. I don't think its ridiculous to try to keep it as one quasi-unified state, or to hope that it remains so. 

Splitting it up not only increases the likelihood of wars between the freshly split up nations over resources, but also weakens them and make them targets for neighbors. What's to stop Egypt from annexing the oil rich east region

I have no attachement to Libya as a state, but I just don't see the overwhelming advantages of multiple independent states

Posted by: Ben at February 23, 2011 02:55 PM (DKV43)

161 155 Both. Now that we have Hamas in Mexico.

I think you mean Hezbollah. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 23, 2011 02:55 PM (HswlH)

162 "I was annoyed before. Now I'm Tripoli annoyed." ---Barack Obama

Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at February 23, 2011 02:56 PM (KB8P5)

163 Depending on who ends up with Egypt, it's a very short hop over to the oilfields of Libya from the Egyptian border.

Posted by: MissTammy at February 23, 2011 02:56 PM (BebB7)

164

 there is a solution to that problem... they mess with us we kill them, we don't arrest them, we don't try them, we don't pay for any damage done, we don't apologize, we don't ask for permission, they fuck with us, we kill them, we go home. end of problem.

Posted by: Sgt. Batguano at February 23, 2011 06:52 PM (ehKDD)

...To the shores of Tripoli....

See, its not shaping up to be a Carter Reagan situation.  We're looking at Adams Jefferson.

Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2011 02:56 PM (oVQFe)

165
You meanies need to understand that Michelle believes the fat-free lunch program is more important than a simple genocide in Libya.  Barack got the message and will continue morphing into a preening pussy.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at February 23, 2011 02:56 PM (ZHsNw)

166
You know what's most funny?

All during the campaign in 2008 all we heard was how Joe Biden was a foreign policy expert.

More than two years into Obama's term, not ONCE has Joe Biden done anything remarkable or memorable in our foreign policy affairs.

It's almost as if Biden's expertise was just a bunch of horseshit being peddled by Obama, Joe, and the media.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 23, 2011 02:57 PM (g73jP)

167

So Libya may split into less artifical areas, SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA TO ME.

When can we split and get rid of the Socialist States?

Posted by: T Partier at February 23, 2011 02:57 PM (PX/Jf)

168 That's what they want you to think, Kratos.

Coffee pots! From space!

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 02:57 PM (cK4d/)

169

was Lybia part of the Barbary Coast?

Maybe the USMC can add another verse to thier song

Posted by: Jake_in_Idaho at February 23, 2011 02:57 PM (vrDK+)

170 I don't buy Rocks notion of balkanization being bad for business as it increases costs. There isn't much business going on in Libya with any consequence to us except oil production. Same with 90% of Arab and Muslim countries. These countries are all much more troublesome than they are helpful. Anything that makes it harder for one chieftain to become powerful and project power abroad is better for us.

Posted by: ace at February 23, 2011 06:35 PM (nj1bB)


Ace, I'm thinking more in terms of us, or the people we buy from, selling to them rather than the other way around. business around the world is mostly a matter of greasing palms. The more dinky countries you have the more palms to grease. In many cases the sole purpose of home rule is get get on the grease list. Never mind we need an entire embassy and staff for each and each gets their own support from us. Combining things lower costs. And there will be a lot of business to be done in Libya if it opens up. Nothing major has been done as far as infrastructure in 40 years and America is a leading player in that field.


The 90% thing isn't true either. An awful lot of American engineers, etc are involved in their building even if they are working for multi-nationals. The same with computer systems, etc.

Posted by: Rocks at February 23, 2011 02:58 PM (th0op)

171 The only thing we care about, IMO, when it comes to Libya potentially breaking into tribal states is the same thing we worry about now: oil.  Which tribal state would get the majority of the oil?  Would they start warring with each other to get MORE oil?  If so, what would that do to the stability (or instability) of oil prices? 

That's just my two cents.

Posted by: MWR at February 23, 2011 02:58 PM (CA2NO)

172 Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2011 06:54 PM (oVQFe)

By the Turks? Maybe not. Partition Northern Iraq and arm the Kurds, with the proviso that they stay out of Turkish affairs. Hell, it may not work, but I like the idea of tweaking the Turks and the Iranians in one fell swoop.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 23, 2011 02:58 PM (LH6ir)

173

I'm with Honey Badger on this, I don't give a shit what they do as long as we aren't involved.

If oil does stay high and Libyia decides to drink their oil rather than sell it then maybe Americans will wake up and put pressure on the dems to develop our own resources.

Posted by: robtr at February 23, 2011 02:58 PM (hVDig)

174 Screw embassies. Send the fuckers an iPhone and tell them to call.


Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 02:59 PM (cK4d/)

175 if I was prez, first, you would all have a flat tax, you're welcome, but I digress, I would say:  We will deal with the Libya that emerges from this conflict, in the meantime, we are giving permits to drill to all comers. Govt bonus money to whoever drills into that massive volcano in Yellowstone.   Thank you, now watch this drive.

I don't think I'll get elected on the Old Faithful Drilling Platform.  so you're boned.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 23, 2011 02:59 PM (xdHzq)

176 The only message we need to hammer home in the ME is that we will come down like a hammer on anyone hurting Americans there.  Anyone.  Including bullshit 'allies'.  Everyone there should be fearful of American response to any actions against Americans.  They understand violence, power, and vengeance.  Give them what they understand.  Simplify the calculus for them.

Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at February 23, 2011 03:00 PM (8grkz)

177

"I was annoyed before. Now I'm Tripoli annoyed."

---Barack Obama

 

Oh, that Barak!  Such a wonderful sense of humor in such trying times.

Posted by: Andrea Mitchell at February 23, 2011 03:00 PM (hypVB)

178 All during the campaign in 2008 all we heard was how Joe Biden was a foreign policy expert.
Super Joe?
Delusions of Grandeur Joe?
Miracle Healer Joe? (In the name of the almighty I bid you stand up Chuck!)
Courageous said something pithy and witty to Bush that no one heard Joe?

Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 23, 2011 03:02 PM (0q2P7)

179 Al Qaeda needed a new state. Now we'll have one. Somalia isn't working out like we hoped and Iraq is downright dangerous. Afghanistan is old and busted and the goats are filthy cheating whores.

Posted by: Zombie bin Laden at February 23, 2011 03:02 PM (cK4d/)

180 Posted by: MissTammy at February 23, 2011 06:56 PM (BebB7)

And Egypt needs oil, and a place to practice with those M1A1 Abrams and F16s.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 23, 2011 03:04 PM (LH6ir)

181 176 The only message we need to hammer home in the ME is that we will come down like a hammer on anyone hurting Americans there.  Anyone.  Including bullshit 'allies'.  Everyone there should be fearful of American response to any actions against Americans.  They understand violence, power, and vengeance.  Give them what they understand.  Simplify the calculus for them.

Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at February 23, 2011 07:00 PM (8grkz)

 

this is true, but it ain't happening

 

see story: 4 Americans, Pirates from a few days ago

Posted by: Jake_in_Idaho at February 23, 2011 03:05 PM (vrDK+)

182

 Combining things lower costs. And there will be a lot of business to be done in Libya if it opens up. Nothing major has been done as far as infrastructure in 40 years and America is a leading player in that field.

 

But how would this affect Moochelle's children?

 

 

Posted by: Soona at February 23, 2011 03:05 PM (hypVB)

183 The big problem, IMHO, is that the population of the country isn't very big and that splitting it up along tribal lines will leave the tribes in the east, where the oil fields are, very vulnerable to Egypt pulling a snatch-and-grab.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 23, 2011 03:07 PM (AFlF9)

184 Aren't barack and mooamar cousins or something?

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 23, 2011 03:07 PM (xdHzq)

185 Obama wouldn't piss if his pants were on fire for fear of offending his zipper.

He reminds me of the Don Knotts character who stayed all night in the haunted house. Can't remember his name.


Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 03:08 PM (cK4d/)

186 President Luther Heggs

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 03:09 PM (cK4d/)

187

So Col Daffy is pals with LouisFarrakanRevwrightchicagomafia?

Sure looks like it?

Tell me again how Barky isn't just a plant by the islamomarxists?

Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 03:09 PM (In1re)

188

Chris Matthew panned Obama's response here:

“This statement could have been put out by the first President Bush. It has the aspect of an Arabist statement. I shouldn’t be too strong here, but it doesn’t have any dignity. I mean — Ronald Reagan — to his credit, said ‘evil empire’ before the fall of the wall.”

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 23, 2011 03:10 PM (yfJ6g)

189 Geez!  With all the crap that's going on, it's a wonder I get any time to work on my short game.  It's bad enough I had to miss the ski vacation with the girls, but this is ridiculous.  I can't believe Axelrod's making me give a press conference over a little country like Libya!

Posted by: Barry Sotero at February 23, 2011 03:10 PM (ihSHD)

190 He reminds me of the Don Knotts character who stayed all night in the haunted house. Can't remember his name.


Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 07:08 PM (cK4d/)

 

Mr. Chicken.  No jokes, please.

Posted by: The Chicken at February 23, 2011 03:11 PM (hypVB)

191 A 44 yo b horror movie?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 23, 2011 03:12 PM (SJ6/3)

192 I say we send George Peppard to Tobruk!  He'll get this sorted out right quick.

Posted by: stuiec at February 23, 2011 03:13 PM (Di3Im)

193 Ghost and Mr. Chicken is one of Honey Badger's favorites. He eats snakes and popcorn to it.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 03:13 PM (cK4d/)

194 Chrissie Matthews still beating the 'Bush 1 = Wimp' meme?  The guy who actually, you know, wasn't a colossal fuckup community organizer and pretty effective in foreign policy?

I hope Chrissie's tingling leg falls right the fuck off.

Posted by: nickless at February 23, 2011 03:14 PM (MMC8r)

195 And they used Bon Ami!

Posted by: Another great line from 'Ghost and Mr. Chicken' at February 23, 2011 03:15 PM (MMC8r)

196 Didn't Bush 1 do some whupping on some Arab ass at one point?


Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 03:15 PM (cK4d/)

197

Chris Matthew panned Obama's response here:

“This statement could have been put out by the first President Bush. It has the aspect of an Arabist statement. I shouldn’t be too strong here, but it doesn’t have any dignity. I mean — Ronald Reagan — to his credit, said ‘evil empire’ before the fall of the wall.”

 

Heh!  That's ironic in light of the fact Chris Matthews recently had a meltdown over Ronaldus Maximus being named the greatest president.  heh!

Posted by: Barry Sotero at February 23, 2011 03:15 PM (ihSHD)

198 All during the campaign in 2008 all we heard was how Joe Biden was a foreign policy expert.
Super Joe?
Delusions of Grandeur Joe?
Miracle Healer Joe? (In the name of the almighty I bid you stand up Chuck!)
Courageous said something pithy and witty to Bush that no one heard Joe?

Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 23, 2011 07:02 PM (0q2P7)

How about Us and the French Kicked Hezbollah Out of Lebanon Joe (that's the one that showed up to the debate with Sarah Palin)?

Posted by: stuiec at February 23, 2011 03:15 PM (Di3Im)

199

Icky sock!

Oh, and old tingles never die, they just don't make it as far up the leg...

Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 03:16 PM (ihSHD)

200 I'd love for someone in the press corpse to yell "give 'em Hell Luther!" when Bumbles is up at the podium.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 03:16 PM (cK4d/)

201

Jeremiah Wright, Farrkhan and Momo are all big buddies. One degree of separation, too close to home. Wouldn't be prudent. 

That's why.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 23, 2011 03:16 PM (DffuX)

Posted by: nickless at February 23, 2011 03:16 PM (MMC8r)

203 Hey, Moammar! Bet you felafel. Have you Benghazi lately?

Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at February 23, 2011 03:16 PM (KB8P5)

204 so wait, Sarah Palin said on her facebook page or something that he should come out and say something and so he did?

wow, that sarah palin has a lot of power...

Posted by: curious at February 23, 2011 03:17 PM (p302b)

205

Ahmadinejad: Everyone should allow their people to talk

Someone's worried about their job. Never mind that he would do the same thing in this situation....

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 23, 2011 03:17 PM (yfJ6g)

206 The tripartition people talked about would result in a Shia region that would have been a proxy for Iran and Turkey would have done some nasty stuff to the Kurds.

As one unit, all of Iraq functions as an Iranian proxy-alliance now given democracy and majority rule. How's them apples.

And were the US to have occupied the Kurdish new nation while building it these past 10 years into the only realistic US ally out of Iraq's population, Christians being annihilated so they no longer "count", Turkey most assuredly would not have done some nasty stuff.

Posted by: El Presidenté at February 23, 2011 03:18 PM (H+LJc)

207 202 President Luther Obama's address on the Lybian Issue.

Posted by: nickless at February 23, 2011 07:16 PM (MMC8r)


Doesn't his address on the Lesbian issue belong in the other thread?

Posted by: emily latella at February 23, 2011 03:18 PM (p302b)

208 Wow, that link in #202 is more apt than I thought.

I always said Barry looked like a black Don Knotts.

Posted by: nickless at February 23, 2011 03:18 PM (MMC8r)

209 If Libya undergoes tribal fission, Egypt will swoop in, and take up all the eastern oil rich areas, and the rest of what was Libya becomes the next failed state.  Kdaffi Duck has already laid the groundwork for this de-evolution, now we get to sit back and watch as Saddam II goes all crashy-burny, and the rest of the world is left to deal with the aftermath.

But, that's how some dictators prefer to go.   Evidence enough, IMO, that he should have suffered an arranged 'accident' long ago.

Posted by: DngrMse at February 23, 2011 03:20 PM (ML/Te)

210 Everyone should remember his best buddies, Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan visit Khadiffi regularly.  Could it be that Obamas is caught between a rock and a hard place?

Posted by: BarbaraS at February 23, 2011 03:21 PM (baw5A)

211 Not to be one of those truther people, but things like this are why people think he's a closet Muslim.  Or at least, very deferential to them.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 23, 2011 03:21 PM (JEGFt)

212 "Sec. State Clinton urges Americans to leave Libya immediately - NBC News

Posted by: emily latella at February 23, 2011 03:21 PM (p302b)

213 >>In 2010, trade between China and Libya grew to $6.6 billion, a rise of 27 percent compared with 2009. China's exports to Libya grew by 3 percent, while its imports from Libya grew by 42 percent, reflecting oil purchases. http://tinyurl.com/45pnne6 One of the things China has been doing in Libya lately is building a railroad for a few billion dollars. Not high speed but still that's gotta chafe Captain Amtrak. China also gets about 7% of their oil from Sudan and has been arming the militia there for years. China has been incredibly aggressive in pursuing oil around the world and is happily gobbling up areas we abandon. They aren't nearly as encumbered by pesky things like human rights. We can keep pretending these areas aren't important to us but they are both economically and strategically.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2011 03:21 PM (TMB3S)

214

Little Mitchy Daniels is trying to walk back his statements from yesterday.

..whadda fuckin' weasel (all apologies to cousin Honey Badger)

The maintenance dept. at the capitol building will be working all night tonight to replace all the melted phone lines

Posted by: beedubya at February 23, 2011 03:22 PM (AnTyA)

215 204 so wait, Sarah Palin said on her facebook page or something that he should come out and say something and so he did?

wow, that sarah palin has a lot of power...

 

She posted it 21hrs ago, though I don't think he necessarily reacted because of her. SecState Clinton can't exactly be happy with him right now and I'm sure the EU is seething because they're about to be hit by high prices. So he's been/being pushed by just about everyone right now.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 23, 2011 03:23 PM (yfJ6g)

216 O/T:  Aw look you can have your wedding and honeymoon in the same place now:  "Hawaii's governor signs civil unions into law, granting gay couples same rights as marriage - AP" via twitter breaking news

Posted by: emily latella at February 23, 2011 03:23 PM (p302b)

217 So how many days has it been since all this has been going on with nary a peep from our Community Organizer in chief?  And then when he does finally open his pie-hole, it's a weaksauce statement.  He still hasn't condemned the violence against the protestors in Iran either, has he?  But look how fast he came out against Governor Walker in WI!  He's provided ground support for the protestors in WI.  He won't even have Susan Rice go to the UN and demand that they remove Libya from the Human Rights Council.  I really loathe this tiny little man.

Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 03:23 PM (ihSHD)

218 Mitch Daniels will mccain now that his conservative mask has fallen off. No point in acting now.


McCain / Daniels 2012: Give Obama another 4 Years!

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 03:25 PM (cK4d/)

219 I so can see why Anderson was so stressing about this cause look, the ferry still hasn't been able to leave.  Aw, heck can't they just send in the US navy to get the Americans? :  " Weather delays ferry carrying US citizens out of Libya - NBC News

Posted by: emily latella at February 23, 2011 03:25 PM (p302b)

220

"Sec. State Clinton urges Americans to leave Libya immediately - NBC News

Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 03:25 PM (ihSHD)

221 Hawaii's ghey anyway. See America first.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 03:26 PM (cK4d/)

222 Birds of a feather Flocking the A-rab nations Gas is gonna spike

Posted by: sTevo at February 23, 2011 03:26 PM (zPfoL)

223 Clinton urges Americans to leave Libya Yeah, great idea. Thanks.

Posted by: The Hostages at February 23, 2011 03:26 PM (FcR7P)

224 199 Oh, and old tingles never die, they just don't make it as far up the leg...

He'll regain any lost love when O brings out the pillars and columns and promises to cure the world of its ills. But it's always good to hear him feeling disappointed because Dear Leader did a lousy job.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 23, 2011 03:26 PM (yfJ6g)

225 So how many days has it been since all this has been going on with nary a peep from our Community Organizer in chief?  And then when he does finally open his pie-hole, it's a weaksauce statement.

How long did it take after the Gulf Oil Spill?  Guy folds under pressure.  Thank God he doesn't have a high-pressure job.  /snark

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 23, 2011 03:27 PM (JEGFt)

226 ABCNews Breaking Story:

Hillary Clinton also urged all residents of Pompeii to make every effort to get out of the path of the erupting volcano.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 03:27 PM (cK4d/)

227 214 Little Mitchy Daniels is trying to walk back his statements from yesterday.

..whadda fuckin' weasel (all apologies to cousin Honey Badger)

The maintenance dept. at the capitol building will be working all night tonight to replace all the melted phone lines

 

Still? He did 5 walkbacks yesterday and he didn't mention anything about emergency issues until #3. No dice, Mitch.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 23, 2011 03:28 PM (yfJ6g)

228 *nine days later...* Present!

Posted by: Barry, Large and In Charge at February 23, 2011 03:28 PM (FcR7P)

229 I'm focused like a frickin' laser beam on this crisis!

Posted by: Dr. Barry Evil at February 23, 2011 03:29 PM (JEGFt)

Posted by: emily latella at February 23, 2011 03:29 PM (p302b)

231 Remain calm!  All is well!

Posted by: Mallomar Kadaffy at February 23, 2011 03:29 PM (JEGFt)

232 OMG I can't get rid of this sock.  I change it and it comes back when it posts!

Posted by: emily latella at February 23, 2011 03:29 PM (p302b)

233 Hillary warns New Zealand of danger of earthquake

Posted by: ABCNews at February 23, 2011 03:30 PM (FcR7P)

234 Also, don't know if this was covered earlier, but there is union unrest in Idaho. More here.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 23, 2011 03:30 PM (yfJ6g)

235

Poker games in the oval office with cigars, expensive Arabian liquor and belly dancers. Momo, Barry, Larry, Jerry.

M-B-L-G, be sittin' in a tree

T-e-r-r-or-i-s-t 

Posted by: Meremortal at February 23, 2011 03:32 PM (DffuX)

236 Bedouin season! Berber season!

Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at February 23, 2011 03:33 PM (KB8P5)

237 Is there any connection between Palin aide Mansour, and the Mansour who owns Barrack Hussein Obama?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 23, 2011 03:33 PM (SJ6/3)

238 Headline, 9-1-39: Hillary suggests Jews flee Germany.

Posted by: ABC News at February 23, 2011 03:33 PM (JEGFt)

239 Uh, them there union f*cks might want to be careful in certain parts of Idaho. They be armed more heavily than your average Madisonite.

Posted by: MissTammy at February 23, 2011 03:33 PM (BebB7)

Posted by: curious at February 23, 2011 03:34 PM (p302b)

241 237 Is there any connection between Palin aide Mansour, and the Mansour who owns Barrack Hussein Obama?

I think that's Manservant.  He has a lot of those to sneak him cigarettes and chocolate.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 23, 2011 03:34 PM (JEGFt)

242 Hey, about now would be a good time for John McCain to start yelling "Drill Baby, Drill!"--Remember that?  Ahh, good times.

Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 03:35 PM (ihSHD)

243 Palin will be going to India in March to give a keynote address.  The topic will be her "Vision of America".  I'm sure they'll find that different from Obama's vision.  http://tinyurl.com/4uz6l4h

Posted by: NDfan at February 23, 2011 03:35 PM (V+woP)

244 Hillary now telling Noah to get aboard the ark.

Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 03:35 PM (ihSHD)

245 Pretty sure Obama's vision of America makes Road Warrior look like a Disney movie.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 03:36 PM (cK4d/)

246 Hillary just informed Berliners to get over to the west side of town.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 23, 2011 03:36 PM (JEGFt)

247

It's clear that Libya needs high speed rail and salad bars

and collective bargaining

Posted by: BDJ at February 23, 2011 03:37 PM (cUNcx)

248 Hillary warns Lincoln not to go to the play.

Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 03:37 PM (ihSHD)

249 Hillary Clinton attempted to radio the Hindenburg today, warning them that hydrogen is a very volatile gas.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 03:37 PM (cK4d/)

250 In Idaho? And nobody's in a strtetcher yet?

Posted by: USS Diversity at February 23, 2011 03:37 PM (DLxD/)

Posted by: curious at February 23, 2011 03:37 PM (p302b)

252 More mush from the wimp.

Posted by: joh at February 23, 2011 03:38 PM (JEvSn)

253 Dr. Khalid al Mansour bought Obama into school and everywhere else.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 23, 2011 03:39 PM (SJ6/3)

254 245 Pretty sure Obama's vision of America makes Road Warrior look like a Disney movie.

As long as we don't have to see Moo-chelle in assless chaps.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 23, 2011 03:39 PM (JEGFt)

255 Hillary is trying to alert Pearl Harbor, warning them of a massive, impending attack.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 23, 2011 03:39 PM (HswlH)

256 254 Dr. Khalid al Mansour bought Obama into school and everywhere else.

So the good doctor owns him like Siegfried owns Roy?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 23, 2011 03:40 PM (JEGFt)

257 Pretty sure Obama's vision of America makes Road Warrior look like a Disney movie.

2081......

Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 23, 2011 03:40 PM (0q2P7)

258 Like Peabody owns Sherman.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 03:41 PM (cK4d/)

259 Attention, General Washington: Hessians are fortifying in Trenton, New Jersey!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 23, 2011 03:41 PM (JEGFt)

260 So, World War IV:  Forecast the sides....

So far I have us against Canada, North Korea and maybe somewhere islandy like the Comoros.

Because those three places are the only thing I can make any sense of lately.  Therefore, they must die.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 23, 2011 03:41 PM (7utQ2)

261

"Evil Empire"

"Axis of Evil"

"Volatile Situation"

Sigh...

Posted by: Max Entropy at February 23, 2011 03:41 PM (lH6z9)

262 258 Like Peabody owns Sherman.

Like Paula owns Simon.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 23, 2011 03:42 PM (JEGFt)

263
Who Said It In 2008?

"As far as ANWR is concerned, I don't want to drill in the Grand Canyon, and I don't want to drill in the Everglades. This is one of the most pristine and beautiful parts of the world. We need to find more sources of energy, but we also need to protect our natural resources."

a) Barack Obama
b) Hillary Clinton
c) George Bush
d) John "Popeye" McCain


Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 23, 2011 03:42 PM (g73jP)

264

There is going to be a huge leadership vacuum and chaos in the middle east for the foreseeable future. Anybody who thinks China is not going to take this opportunity to increase their influence in this vital region is kidding themselves.


And the response? Go ahead and take it. "Catch, motherfuckers." Right now the Chinese, Russians, and everyone else on the planet is laughing at the dumb Americans who exhaust themselves to get their oil to the market.

Posted by: MlR at February 23, 2011 03:42 PM (8PvvL)

265 Someone needs to introduce Ace to Tabitha Hale; maybe she will wear a tri-cornered hat for him? http://tinyurl.com/5uecrft

Posted by: Jean at February 23, 2011 03:42 PM (CPefM)

266 fire BAD

Posted by: SecState Hillary Clinton at February 23, 2011 03:42 PM (cUNcx)

267 Her cankleness is every bit as bad a SECSTATE as Obsama is prez, but it's all relative.

Posted by: USS Diversity at February 23, 2011 03:42 PM (DLxD/)

268 I would like for all the Moose-limb states to break up into tribal regions and wage perpetual war on each other. It would keep their asses too busy to fuck the rest of the world up. In fact, we should encourage it.

Posted by: maddogg at February 23, 2011 03:43 PM (JxMqJ)

269

A while back, Southpark had a great episode with "Captain Hindsight".  Hillary could be his Girl Wonder.  She'll need to pass on the lycra outfit, however.

Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 03:43 PM (ihSHD)

270 You have to admit, Hillary did warn us about our dumb fuck president.

Posted by: robtr at February 23, 2011 03:43 PM (hVDig)

271 Mr.  Pussy-dent.

Posted by: Dang at February 23, 2011 03:43 PM (TXKVh)

272 from a larger for pol point of view, EU, esp UK and Italy are EXTREMELY dependent upon Libyan oil. So if Libyan oil output drops due to internicine strife aka civil war tribal land splits, EU will turn to.....Russia? for more gas and oil right. and tight supplies all around mean China moves farther into S America for its own supply which I think we may want to be aware of as SAmerica is sorta unstable in some areas..coughcough Hugo..

so it strengthens Russia, Venezuela and leaves fewer barrels for the rest driving up price and it weakens our EU allies such as they are

all bad IMO

Posted by: ginaswo at February 23, 2011 03:43 PM (k1f7N)

273 MSDNC:

Hillary Clinton sent a diplomatic courier to Thermopylae today, warning King Leonidas of a secret path which leads to the rear of the Spartan position. No word yet of the Spartan king's response.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 03:43 PM (cK4d/)

274 So far I have us against Canada, North Korea and maybe somewhere islandy like the Comoros.

The Vatican.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 23, 2011 03:43 PM (JEGFt)

275 Also, don't know if this was covered earlier, but there is union unrest in Idaho. More here.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 23, 2011 07:30 PM (yfJ6g)

 

I am so so glad that OK is already a right-to-work state.  It has precluded so many of the problems that these states are experiencing now.

Posted by: Soona at February 23, 2011 03:43 PM (hypVB)

276

OT: Reid tells Boehner to shove both a short-term extension and the full CR up where the sun doesn't shine

 

Boehner's last statement before the update: "We will move a short-term [resolution] that cuts spending, and that it's up to Senator Reid to tell Americans what -- if anything -- he's willing to cut," Boehner spokesperson Michael Steel said. "At this point, the House has done its work by passing a [spending resolution], and the Senate has done nothing."

Well, Boehner? What are you going to do now?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 23, 2011 03:44 PM (yfJ6g)

277 Obama isn't all that interested because he looked at the map and thought it said labia.

Posted by: Nash Rambler at February 23, 2011 03:44 PM (9IOHF)

278 Captain Hindsight was great.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 23, 2011 03:45 PM (SJ6/3)

279 Boehner spokesperson Michael Steel said.

That's Steel without the "e," right?  I thought we showed Steele the door . . . or the sewer.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 23, 2011 03:46 PM (JEGFt)

280 The Vatican.

I'm kinda hoping we can get the Pope on our side.  Talk him into growing a beard and we've got ringer for Gandalf.  That would scare the crap out of the Norks.

(Yes, I think this is how we are currently formulating our foreign policy.)

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 23, 2011 03:46 PM (7utQ2)

281 Hillary is trying to alert Pearl Harbor, warning them of a massive, impending attack.

I'm calling bullshit. If she's calling them, she's demanding that they not over-react to any sort of Glenn Beck racist conspiracy theories on the Japanese .

Posted by: MissTammy at February 23, 2011 03:47 PM (BebB7)

282 >> 150 138 ...I don't get that. Why do we care if Libya splits into seven more homogeneous tribal regions? > Smaller states are one thing. Tribal areas is another. We're not talking about Czechoslovakia splitting into the Czech Republic and Slovakia. The more apt comparison is Libya changing into a big Somalia - with lots of oil. Think of Somali warlords. Now think of WELL FINANCED Somali warlords just a short hop from Southern Europe. Posted by: Comrade Arthur there is a solution to that problem... they mess with us we kill them, ... Posted by: Sgt. Batguano Not saying your proposed solution wouldn't work BUT do you think the present adminstration would enact it? And if you don't think they would, then you have to allow that the Tribal Regions Formerly Know As Libya would be very dangerous.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at February 23, 2011 03:48 PM (rQ2EG)

283 Someone needs to introduce Ace to Tabitha Hale; maybe she will wear a tri-cornered hat for him? http://tinyurl.com/5uecrft

Posted by: Jean at February 23, 2011 07:42 PM (CPefM)

 

Oh my!  I'd like to hit her too. 

Posted by: Soona at February 23, 2011 03:48 PM (hypVB)

284 I blame Spudnik. 

Posted by: Cynthia at February 23, 2011 03:49 PM (lhhNH)

285

Well, Boehner? What are you going to do now?

They haven't thought that far ahead.

or..

"Gee, we hadn't figured on the Democrats flatly rejecting our budget cuts. Shucks, now what do we do?"

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 23, 2011 03:49 PM (UQjUb)

286 Think of Somali warlords. Now think of WELL FINANCED Somali warlords just a short hop from Southern Europe.

You pretty much just described the United Arab Emirates.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 23, 2011 03:49 PM (7utQ2)

287 So far I have us against Canada, North Korea and maybe somewhere islandy like the Comoros.
Be fair, Circa. If we get a Conservative majority government up here and our Red Tory [RINOs] aren't calling the shots, we may be helping to liberate you from a third Obama term. (He can just ignore the law, can't he, because it's clearly unconstitutional to term limit him?) ;^)

Posted by: andycanuck at February 23, 2011 03:49 PM (7H/n0)

288 I'm kinda hoping we can get the Pope on our side.  Talk him into growing a beard and we've got ringer for Gandalf.  That would scare the crap out of the Norks.

Give him a staff that lights up.  I'm in!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 23, 2011 03:50 PM (JEGFt)

289

279 Boehner spokesperson Michael Steel said.

That's Steel without the "e," right?  I thought we showed Steele the door . . . or the sewer.

Yes, completely different man.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 23, 2011 03:50 PM (yfJ6g)

290 Yes, completely different man.

(Cue sigh of relief.)

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 23, 2011 03:51 PM (JEGFt)

291

OT:

Oklahoma House committee approves repeal of collective bargaining rights for city government workers - Oklahoman http://bit.ly/e9J4xb

Posted by: Meremortal at February 23, 2011 03:51 PM (DffuX)

292 Be fair, Circa.

OK, ok.  Just a few JDAMS on Prince Edward Island.  It's not even really a province.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 23, 2011 03:51 PM (7utQ2)

293

2/23/11

Caesar,

    Watch your back around Brutus.

         -Hillary

Posted by: Leaked State Department Communique at February 23, 2011 03:52 PM (yr+62)

294 I don't give a shit.

Posted by: Barack Badger at February 23, 2011 03:52 PM (lH6z9)

295 The reason Obama and the MSM haven't demand that Qadhafi step down yet is because Qadhafi didn't post a shirtless photograph.

Posted by: USA at February 23, 2011 03:54 PM (YZISw)

Posted by: andycanuck at February 23, 2011 03:54 PM (7H/n0)

297 Hey, Pericles.


Might want to get that cough looked at.

Cheers,

H.C.

Posted by: Capt. Hillary, Serbian Airborne at February 23, 2011 03:55 PM (cK4d/)

298 292 Beware the Link at 292. It got me a Norton warning.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 23, 2011 03:55 PM (SJ6/3)

299 The potatoes. The potatoes.

Posted by: colonel kurtz at February 23, 2011 03:55 PM (7H/n0)

300 It's a good thing we ramped up domestic oil production and cleared the regulatory hurdles for nuke plants.  Now we don't have to worry about Libya's oil.

Posted by: FUBAR at February 23, 2011 03:56 PM (McG46)

301


there is a solution to that problem... they mess with us we kill them, ...
Posted by: Sgt. Batguano


Not saying your proposed solution wouldn't work BUT do you think the present adminstration would enact it? And if you don't think they would, then you have to allow that the Tribal Regions Formerly Know As Libya would be very dangerous. [excerpted]

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at February 23, 2011 07:48 PM (rQ2EG)

Obama will be long gone before the jihadis get anything put together. I'll take the chance. Let 'em split. It will take them a long time to put anything together, and we'll be watching. Time is our friend.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 23, 2011 03:56 PM (DffuX)

302 Comrade Arthur - looks like Seymore Hersh's poaching on my Knights of Malta shtick might not be too far fetched.

Posted by: Jean at February 23, 2011 03:56 PM (CPefM)

303 286 They haven't thought that far ahead.

or..

"Gee, we hadn't figured on the Democrats flatly rejecting our budget cuts. Shucks, now what do we do?"

Boehner said he wasn't going to accept anything with funding a current levels. This is not an issue involving baselines, savings, who gets to cut what, or any of that; he gave Reid two chances. Reid has not only said no, he's also said he'll introduce legislation to fund the govt for 30days and add new spending. It's time for he and Cantor to stop taunting and either shut it down or float CRs involving cuts.  

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 23, 2011 03:56 PM (yfJ6g)

304

India wouldn't be where it is today without the British.  And China learned one helluva lot from the Brits in Hong Kong.

And we were a colony, too, so there's probably a limit to how long that good influence can last before you start electing self-loathing commie imbeciles.

CoughNelsonMandelacough

Posted by: Barack Badger at February 23, 2011 03:56 PM (lH6z9)

305

Oklahoma House committee approves repeal of collective bargaining rights for city government workers - Oklahoman http://bit.ly/e9J4xb

 

It's really nice to have a repub governor and repub majorities in both houses too.

Posted by: Soona at February 23, 2011 03:57 PM (hypVB)

306 Col. Travis:

Lots and lots of Mexicans heading your way.

Love,

Hill

Posted by: Capt. Hillary, Serbian Airborne at February 23, 2011 03:59 PM (cK4d/)

307

Boehner said he wasn't going to accept anything with funding a current levels. This is not an issue involving baselines, savings, who gets to cut what, or any of that; he gave Reid two chances. Reid has not only said no, he's also said he'll introduce legislation to fund the govt for 30days and add new spending. It's time for he and Cantor to stop taunting and either shut it down or float CRs involving cuts.

 

Right now a government shutdown would be a blessing. 

Posted by: Soona at February 23, 2011 03:59 PM (hypVB)

308 I don't get that. Why do we care if Libya splits into seven more homogeneous tribal regions?

The problem is some of those regions will have oil, and some won't.  They'll all be too small to defend themselves from oil-hungry foreigners (like the Egyptians, for instance).

If Libya splits into seven statelets we'll be revisiting the situation every six or seven years.  "Why are these people always at war?".  It'll be Somalia with oil.

Posted by: Ace's liver at February 23, 2011 04:00 PM (XIXhw)

309 Shut it down. Shut it all down.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 04:00 PM (cK4d/)

310 Not only was it lame, it took several days for the Assclown in Chief to come up with this.

Election Day 2012 can't come soon enough.

Posted by: logprof at February 23, 2011 04:01 PM (lAeU1)

311 It's a good thing we ramped up domestic oil production and cleared the regulatory hurdles for nuke plants.  Now we don't have to worry about Libya's oil.   Posted by: FUBAR

Knowing the GOP, they're probably scrambling to put together a coherent oil sound bite for the next election. And most of them will still screw it up with passes at 'alternuhtive enurgee' or 'greenhowz eemisshunz.'

Posted by: goldbricker esq at February 23, 2011 04:02 PM (S59+B)

312 Hey, maybe the Fakestinians can move to The Artist Country Formerly Known as Libya and shut the hell up. Let's see if they trash the oil fields as fast as they trashed the greenhouses.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 04:02 PM (cK4d/)

313 "functional modern-style governments"

An oxymoron.

Posted by: Northwesterner at February 23, 2011 04:03 PM (/Ft4q)

314

1963:  You might want reconsider the convertable top Jack.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 23, 2011 04:03 PM (yQWNf)

315 For those just tuning in:

Middle East is one giant.

Mallomar Qadaffi has a bitchin' coordinated hat, umbrella and pickup truck set.

Democrats run away.

Union thugs hit girls.

Massachusetts congressional types incite violence and keep ears as souvenirs (I may be mixing that up a little).

Advocating for the policies of Franklin Delano Roosevelt--four-term Democrat President makes one JUST LIKE HITLERtm.

Bad bank loans....still there, but enjoying the buffet at Sizzler.

Jay Leno is still not funny.

The federal government has not had an actual budget since the Franklin Pierce administration, but we still will somehow borrow the gross domestic product of Italy this year anyway.

The President of the United States enjoys pretending to coach girls basketball.

And the Cubs will not win the World Series.


Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 23, 2011 04:03 PM (7utQ2)

316

Election Day 2012 can't come soon enough.

Why, logprof? What do you think will happen then?

Posted by: USS Diversity at February 23, 2011 04:04 PM (DLxD/)

Posted by: curious at February 23, 2011 04:04 PM (p302b)

318 The Middle East thing should have been [insert your favorite term for fecal matter here].

Or perhaps I meant one giant tire fire.

Talk amongst yourselves.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 23, 2011 04:05 PM (7utQ2)

319 For those just tuning in:

Middle East is one giant.  Posted by: Circa

"Giant what?"

"Forget it, he's on a roll."

Posted by: goldbricker esq at February 23, 2011 04:05 PM (S59+B)

320

Right now a government shutdown would be a blessing. 

Posted by: Soona at February 23, 2011 07:59 PM (hypVB) 

Remember when the government was shut down in 95 and the MFM said the republicans lost that argument?

Let's review what we lost, after the government was shut down Clinton immediately changed his tune and started helping to balance the budget. That continued until he left office. He did win re election but we ran Bob V. Dole  and Perot was still siphoning votes. Clinton didn't break 50% in the election.

If that's losing I am all for it.

Posted by: robtr at February 23, 2011 04:05 PM (hVDig)

321 I'm getting sick of seeing this "I'm coming home, tell the world I'm coming home" commercial at the knick game.

Posted by: curious at February 23, 2011 04:05 PM (p302b)

322 Col. Travis:

Lots and lots of Mexicans heading your way.

Love,

Hill

I'm going to hell for laughing at that, aren't I?

Posted by: Retread at February 23, 2011 04:07 PM (okCHU)

323 Election Day 2012 can't come soon enough.

Posted by: logprof at February 23, 2011 08:01 PM (lAeU1)

 

The only thing that's going to hold this nation together until 2012 is a handfull of conservative governors.  If they fail, I'm afraid 2012 will be too late.  The bus is at the edge of the cliff now. 

Posted by: Soona at February 23, 2011 04:07 PM (hypVB)

324
O/T
You are driving along a narrow two lane road with a NO PASSING sign posted, with double lines, and come upon a bicycle rider. Do you follow this slow-moving bicycle rider for the next 21 miles, or do you break the law and pass? Which is the correct choice?

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at February 23, 2011 04:07 PM (ZHsNw)

325 D choice?o you follow this slow-moving bicycle rider for the next 21 miles, or do you break the law and pass? Which is the correct  Posted by: Fish the Impaler

Hah!

Posted by: goldbricker esq at February 23, 2011 04:08 PM (S59+B)

326 " Do you follow this slow-moving bicycle rider for the next 21 miles, or do you break the law and pass?"

Yes

Posted by: Northwesterner at February 23, 2011 04:08 PM (/Ft4q)

327 Bad bank loans....still there, but enjoying the buffet at Sizzler.

Just tuning in. Thanks for the nutshell.

Posted by: fluffy at February 23, 2011 04:09 PM (SwkdU)

328 #325 "NO PASSING" usually refers to automobiles and other motorized, standard vehicular traffic.

Posted by: Arbalest at February 23, 2011 04:10 PM (jpLPD)

329 Do you follow this slow-moving bicycle rider for the next 21 miles, or do you break the law and pass? Which is the correct choice?

Sorry, I need to know if I am driving the General Lee, because if so, I can just fly over the bicycle.  As well as any hayseed law enforcement types that may be nearby plotting to GIT me.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 23, 2011 04:10 PM (7utQ2)

330 O/T
You are driving along a narrow two lane road with a NO PASSING sign posted, with double lines, and come upon a
bicycle rider. Do you follow this slow-moving bicycle rider for the next 21 miles, or do you break the law and pass? Which is the correct choice?

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at February 23, 2011 08:07 PM (ZHsNw)

RON PAUL!

Posted by: Ron Paul at February 23, 2011 04:11 PM (yQWNf)

331 Posted by: Fish the Impaler at February 23, 2011 08:07 PM (ZHsNw)

the bicycle rider acknowledges that you are there and slows down and moves as far to the shoulder as possible so you can safely pass them and remain in your lane, thus not breaking the law.

Posted by: curious at February 23, 2011 04:11 PM (p302b)

332 P.S.  Capuano was Mayor of Somerville when I lived there.  Opportunistic POS who parlayed that office into his House seat.

Posted by: logprof at February 23, 2011 04:11 PM (wZoXd)

333 RON PAUL!

That comment deemed officially funny by the Official Board of Funny Shit.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 23, 2011 04:12 PM (7utQ2)

334 Trick question. Is there someone in the passenger seat with a baseball bat?

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 23, 2011 04:12 PM (xMT+4)

335
I want to see Cantor go all AND JUSTICE FOR ALL on Reid's droopy old ass.

"I'm out of order? YOU'RE out of order! This whole court is out of order!"

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 23, 2011 04:13 PM (UQjUb)

336

... but you'll be lucky to go more than 1 mile without a collision following THAT cyclist ...

Bunk ... Bunk ... Bunk ... Bunk ...

Posted by: Arbalest at February 23, 2011 04:13 PM (jpLPD)

337 "They counted on America to be passive - they counted RIGHT."

(Obama's version of Ronald Reagan)

Posted by: Rich C at February 23, 2011 04:13 PM (pvmNf)

338 Oh, and about my link above-- Boehner told Dingy Harry he could have his little 2wk extension to think about the $61B CR if he passed a measly $4B in cuts. So, no, he didn't cut the CR down to $4B; they are two separate measures and Reid is being asked to pass both.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 23, 2011 04:14 PM (yfJ6g)

339
And I want FISH to change his name to Fish, the Chevy Impala.

Are you Fish Fish, by the way?


Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 23, 2011 04:14 PM (g73jP)

340
the bicycle rider acknowledges that you are there and slows down and moves as far to the shoulder as possible so you can safely pass them and remain in your lane, thus not breaking the law.

Posted by: curious at February 23, 2011 08:11 PM (p302b)

I prefer she continue her blocking move so I will not break the law.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at February 23, 2011 04:14 PM (ZHsNw)

341
I mean are you Fish from Florida?

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 23, 2011 04:14 PM (UQjUb)

342 #325

I A-Team convert my car with a hydraulic bicycle pick-up arm and flamethrower.

Using full montage and music, of course.

Also shoot 4,000 rounds from a chrome Mini-14 and never hit anything.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 04:16 PM (cK4d/)

343
I mean are you Fish from Florida?

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 23, 2011 08:14 PM (UQjUb)

Juno Beach, Florida with Allen West representing in Congress.  Oh yea!

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at February 23, 2011 04:17 PM (ZHsNw)

344 299 292 Beware the Link at 292. It got me a Norton warning.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 23, 2011 07:55 PM (SJ6/3)

Whoa, sorry about that. I didn't go there, just pulled it off the Breaking Tweets.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 23, 2011 04:18 PM (DffuX)

345 This is the same guy who said that the murder of Neda Agha-Soltan was "unjust". 

What do you expect, a beer summit between Milhouse and Qaddafi?

Posted by: NarcoSuperHero at February 23, 2011 04:18 PM (pJjbR)

346
I remember one of our first encounters, Fish.

A couple of years we were pissed off at Congress and I suggested we all send a piece of fish to a Congressman. Okay, not one of my netter ideas, but anyway...

you said, "What are you saying, man?!?"


Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 23, 2011 04:19 PM (g73jP)

347

You are driving along a narrow two lane road with a NO PASSING sign posted, with double lines, and come upon a bicycle rider. Do you follow this slow-moving bicycle rider for the next 21 miles, or do you break the law and pass? Which is the correct choice?

Is this a trick question?

Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 04:20 PM (In1re)

348
Good times here at the Moron Coral meeting and greeting like minded patriots, excepting Palin Steele, Christoph, etc.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at February 23, 2011 04:21 PM (ZHsNw)

349

My my, a republican circle jerk.

First you whine that the president is silent, then you whine that he spoke up.  Amazing!!

I guess listening to Glen Beck did destroy all of your brain cells.

Posted by: Ihaterethugs at February 23, 2011 04:22 PM (pYurd)

350 Now that's a pony-tailed bicyclist I could really get behind.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 04:23 PM (cK4d/)

351 I can easily steer with one hand for 21 miles

Posted by: jcjimi at February 23, 2011 04:23 PM (ay6+/)

352 Hey! Looks like pYurd wants to be in the center this time!

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 04:23 PM (cK4d/)

353 Obama has not said any thing about Libya because Qadaffi is his brother in law!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Henry James at February 23, 2011 04:24 PM (zVOB7)

354

Is this a trick question?

Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 08:20 PM (In1re)

Actually, I was concerned about her safety, and would be forced to ride the 21 miles behind her protecting her ASS-ETS.


Posted by: Fish the Impaler at February 23, 2011 04:24 PM (ZHsNw)

355 Student kills instructor during security-guard class at LA vocational school - LA Times http://lat.ms/gUj1x1

Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 04:24 PM (In1re)

356

Oh my, oil's going up, oil's going up, buy gold, buy gold!!!!

You rethugs suck.  Do you realize big oil is run by your party?

Posted by: Ihaterethugs at February 23, 2011 04:25 PM (pYurd)

357

Posted by: Ihaterethugs at February 23, 2011 08:22 PM (pYurd)

Ha Ha your crowd's time is coming, piece of shit.

Posted by: USS Diversity at February 23, 2011 04:25 PM (DLxD/)

358 My biggest concern while following her would be where I could find some walnuts I could watch her crack.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 04:26 PM (cK4d/)

359 Tricky troll on aisle 350.  He thinks we're all Republicans and is hatin' on us.

Posted by: Northwesterner at February 23, 2011 04:26 PM (/Ft4q)

360 What do you expect, a beer summit between Milhouse and Qaddafi?

Now you've done it. 

We're about to be subjected to a two-hour rant about how he never drinks, but it was fine for Dean Martin to do so and how come you kids never participate in the People's Committees with all the money he spent on those Nerf basketball goals after the time the Israelis tired to kill him with a sea urchin, but he escaped through a window into Sadat's Mediterranean bungalow and he had this fantastic orange shag carpet all the way up the walls and the joints of those walls were so tight that they are good analogy for how Libya sticks together under his leadership and no, the Serbian thugs behind him did not just shoot that guy it's a CIA trick using CGI technology that the Jews stole out of his Benghazi house that you ingrateful pricks burned Monday.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 23, 2011 04:26 PM (7utQ2)

361 My my, a republican circle jerk.

**smooch**

C'mere, Sweet buns.

Posted by: fluffy at February 23, 2011 04:26 PM (SwkdU)

362
Posted by: Ihaterethugs at February 23, 2011 08:22 PM (pYurd)

(pYurd)  (oTurd)

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at February 23, 2011 04:27 PM (ZHsNw)

363 Pssst. The troll doesn' t know BP bought Barky. Shhhhh!

Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 04:27 PM (In1re)

364 #350  Oh,  looky!  It only took 350 posts for them to come up with something for the trolls to say!

Ihaterethugs,  here's a clue.  He came out today,  but he STILL DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING.   Even Chris Matthews trashed his statement!

Now go back to your spider hole in the basement.

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 23, 2011 04:28 PM (Fo83G)

365 Ihaterethugs

Hey. Stupid. Get some new material. Jon Stewart circa 2005 won't cut it here.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 04:28 PM (cK4d/)

366 364 Pssst. The troll doesn' t know BP bought Barky. Shhhhh!

*yells at troll, just to get things interesting*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2011 04:29 PM (UOM48)

367
Yea, sometimes I hate you republicans too, but then I leave the liberal fart cloud and kiss and make up.  Smoochie smooch!

Posted by: Bob Beckel, Democrat Strategist at February 23, 2011 04:29 PM (ZHsNw)

368 357

Oh my, oil's going up, oil's going up, buy gold, buy gold!!!!

You rethugs suck.  Do you realize big oil is run by your party?

*yawn*  /Ahem, do you know who BP has invested in?  His first name starts with a B and end with "arack".

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 23, 2011 04:29 PM (HswlH)

369

So why did we not evacuate the US Embassy when the shit hit the fan? Obama may be facing dead US citizens or hostages. So, will he blame Bush, Cheney, Boehnor, Reagan for his Fuck up? What about Hilderbeast WTF is she doing? We would be better off with the Three Stoogies running the US Government !!!

Posted by: Frank Gordan at February 23, 2011 04:29 PM (zVOB7)

370 Does that "Pssst" or "Shhhhh!" come with air in the ear?

Posted by: Northwesterner at February 23, 2011 04:29 PM (/Ft4q)

371 "Turkey, with 25,000 nationals in Libya, launches the biggest evacuation operation in its history - Al Jazeera

"The only people remaining on streets of Tripoli are police, soldiers and mercenaries, a resident tells BBC Arabic

"Israeli PM Netanyahu authorizes entry of 300 Palestinians from Libya to Palestinian Authority - YnetNews "

via twitter breaking news, link on drudge

Posted by: curious at February 23, 2011 04:29 PM (p302b)

372 Pssst. The troll doesn' t know BP bought Barky. Shhhhh!

Don't tell GE. They think they have an exclusive.

Posted by: fluffy at February 23, 2011 04:30 PM (SwkdU)

373
this troll is stupid

The Republican party doesn't run big oil.

Big Oil runs the Republican party.

Get your shit straight, dummy.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 23, 2011 04:31 PM (UQjUb)

374 350

My my, a republican circle jerk.

First you whine that the president is silent, then you whine that he spoke up.  Amazing!!

I guess listening to Glen Beck did destroy all of your brain cells.

Posted by: Ihaterethugs at February 23, 2011 08:22 PM (pYurd) 


Paging Ihaterethugs on the white courtesy phone......Need you to get a message to your friend Jon Stewart.  My attorney, Allah Fuckbar will be in touch, regarding my injuries in Madison.



Posted by: the camel at February 23, 2011 04:31 PM (UOM48)

375 I guess listening to Glen Beck did destroy all of your brain cells.

We're currently constructing a graven image of Beck (in gold, of course).  Also, when we your guy puts together three coherent policy thoughts in a row, please let us know.  We'd like to capture the moment for posterity.  Or put it on a plaque for Chuck Heston to find after the monkeys take over next year.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 23, 2011 04:31 PM (7utQ2)

376

BP is an English company, they can't buy shit.  Try Shell and the other big companies, you shitbags are all owned like slaves.

I pity you!!

Posted by: Ihaterethugs at February 23, 2011 04:31 PM (pYurd)

377 Posted by: Ihaterethugs at February 23, 2011 08:25 PM (pYurd)

It's just terrified because Big Union that runs his party is about to be decimated and drained dry.

Posted by: MissTammy at February 23, 2011 04:32 PM (BebB7)

378 Are the Turks using a fairy too?

Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 04:32 PM (In1re)

379
This entire Libya thing is the result of the Halliburton/Cheney cabal creating hate and discontent among the peaceful people of the middle east.

Posted by: Liberal Buffoon at February 23, 2011 04:32 PM (ZHsNw)

380

In the end, there will be only....

 

Is this the end?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at February 23, 2011 04:33 PM (sJTmU)

381

Let me ID a few clues that might have set you straight...

"Supposedly"...see, that shows doubt, a lack of faith in the information and/or the person who originally said it.

Here's the big clue I didn't believe it...

"NOT SURE HOW MUCH I BELIEVE THAT". (I made it bigger since you seemed to miss it the first time). See, that sentence there is almost, not totally but almost, the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you seem to think it means. 

Hope that helps.

Posted by: DrewM. at February 23, 2011 04:47 PM (HicGG)

Drew, try some Midol--and maybe being less hyper-defensive.   Mountain, molehill, etc

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at February 23, 2011 04:34 PM (UqKQV)

382 Yeah, but which tribal sub-states get the oil?  Wouldn't that make it easy for Egypt to just invade and take them all over?

Posted by: JASmius at February 23, 2011 04:34 PM (LMHcg)

383 Try Shell and the other big companies

Shell is Dutch, Monkey Nuts.

Posted by: fluffy at February 23, 2011 04:34 PM (SwkdU)

384 Now he's saying slaves are shitbags.  Racist!  But this is something I could pick-up on...

Posted by: Northwesterner at February 23, 2011 04:34 PM (/Ft4q)

385 BP is an English company huh?


Hmmm. What time are you due at the methadone clinic for middle school losers?


Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 04:34 PM (cK4d/)

386 BP is an English company, they can't buy shit.  Try Shell

 It doesn't understand that Shell is Dutch.

Posted by: MissTammy at February 23, 2011 04:35 PM (BebB7)

387

LOL

How does Obama know he's hit rock bottom?

http://yfrog.com/h52obqkj

 

Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 04:35 PM (In1re)

388 381 Is this the end?

Probably not the end, but maybe the end of the beginning. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 23, 2011 04:36 PM (HswlH)

389 You guys think so small.
Big Oil runs " The Planet "
Mongo only pawn in game of life.

Posted by: El Presidenté at February 23, 2011 04:36 PM (H+LJc)

390 Experiment in troll mental capacity (#4,704A):

Givens:

1.  Republicans run big oil.

2.  Democratic administration imposes deepwater drilling moratorium.

Prove:

1.  Prices decline if cosine is greater that square root of the gap distance in Joe Biden's plugs.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 23, 2011 04:36 PM (7utQ2)

391
Factoid for trolls:

The majority of oil exported from Africa comes from Zamunda, and King Jaffe Joffer is a great friend of the United States. 

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at February 23, 2011 04:37 PM (ZHsNw)

392 troll:

BP is 39% US owned according to the BP website as of Dec. 31, 2009.

Also, FOAD.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 04:37 PM (cK4d/)

393  It doesn't understand that Shell is Dutch.

Yep. Liz and cousin Bea own all that North Sea Crude and 30%+ of the rest

Posted by: El Presidenté at February 23, 2011 04:38 PM (H+LJc)

394 It doesn't understand that Shell is Dutch.

You Southerners are so polite.

Posted by: fluffy at February 23, 2011 04:39 PM (SwkdU)

395 If Big Oil can run the world, it can find your bunny ass.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 04:39 PM (cK4d/)

396 This entire Libya thing is the result of the Halliburton/Cheney cabal creating hate and discontent among the peaceful people of the middle east.

The Israeli/Palestinian question is clearly to blame for centuries of tribal strife in Libya.  The Jews, they are crafty.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 23, 2011 04:39 PM (7utQ2)

397 Okay, which one of you M&Ms shoved a Honey Badger up Ihaterethugs' butthole sideways?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at February 23, 2011 04:39 PM (6yyVB)

398
Aunt Zetuni owns ExxonMobil.



Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 23, 2011 04:40 PM (UQjUb)

399 395 It doesn't understand that Shell is Dutch.

You Southerners are so polite.

Posted by: fluffy at February 23, 2011 08:39 PM (SwkdU)


Bless our hearts.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2011 04:40 PM (UOM48)

400 361 That's funny...but you didn't make it long enough.

Posted by: unknown jane at February 23, 2011 04:40 PM (5/yRG)

401

April 1865:  Our American Cousin?  Really Abe? Isn't there any better play to go see?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 23, 2011 04:40 PM (yQWNf)

402 I hate the Dutch.

Posted by: Nigel Powers at February 23, 2011 04:40 PM (cK4d/)

403 Is this the end?

You ever been to a movie that was bad...and it seemed that it would never end but it just all the sudden did and you went.. What!? I sat through the entire thing for this!

Posted by: El Presidenté at February 23, 2011 04:41 PM (H+LJc)

404  The Israeli/Palestinian question is Sarah Pain and George W Bush, but mostly Sarah Palin are clearly to blame for centuries of tribal strife in Libya

FIFY

Posted by: MissTammy at February 23, 2011 04:41 PM (BebB7)

405 White House Clowns http://tinyurl.com/4t3d8bx

Posted by: USA at February 23, 2011 04:41 PM (YZISw)

406
while we're proving to internet trolls we're not bigots, Obama's illegal Aunt Zetuni  is fleecing the taxpayers.


Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 23, 2011 04:41 PM (UQjUb)

407 This is why they gave a Nobel to Pres..ent Obama

Posted by: Freddie Mercury at February 23, 2011 04:42 PM (tvs2p)

408 That's funny...but you didn't make it long enough.

Channeling crazy is hard.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 23, 2011 04:42 PM (7utQ2)

409 It doesn't know what a mult-national corportion is.

Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 04:42 PM (In1re)

410 I hate the Dutch.

We're not so fond of you, Limey.

Posted by: Goldmember at February 23, 2011 04:42 PM (SwkdU)

411 Aunt Zetuni just lies there.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 04:42 PM (cK4d/)

412 I'm kinda hoping we can get the Pope on our side.  Talk him into growing a beard and we've got ringer for Gandalf.  That would scare the crap out of the Norks.

(Yes, I think this is how we are currently formulating our foreign policy.)

Um... I'm pretty sure you're over-estimating Mrs. Clinton and her merry gang.

And, in the same stance, underestimating J.R.R. Tolkien.

Posted by: shibumi at February 23, 2011 04:42 PM (OKZrE)

413 398 Okay, which one of you M&Ms shoved a Honey Badger up Ihaterethugs' butthole sideways?

Libtard bunghole not tasty.  Other than that, I don't give a shit.  Or a fuck.

Posted by: Honey Badger at February 23, 2011 04:43 PM (UOM48)

414
Aunt Zetuni just lies there.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 08:42 PM (cK4d/)

Is auntie into head?

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at February 23, 2011 04:44 PM (ZHsNw)

415
Aunt Zetuni just lies there.

wow I just had major deja vu

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 23, 2011 04:44 PM (UQjUb)

416 It doesn't know what a mult-national corportion is.

It rubs the lotion on the skin and gets back under the fucking stairs.

Posted by: Jame Gumb at February 23, 2011 04:45 PM (SwkdU)

417

Mike Huckabee, Fox News Channel program host and potential Republican presidential candidate, says fellow conservatives have “unfairly” criticized first lady Michelle Obama for her anti-obesity program, acting out of political reflex “rather than out of a thoughtful expression.”

At a Monitor-sponsored meeting with reporters in Washington on Wednesday, the former Arkansas governor said Mrs. Obama’s anti-obesity campaign, called Let’s Move, attracted conservatives’ scorn in part “because she is the one presenting it. And that is why I have been defensive of her.”

This gasbag really needs to STFU.

 

Posted by: Steph at February 23, 2011 04:45 PM (AkdC5)

418 Aunt Zetuni is a union lay. She shows up, lays down, and expects the taxpayers to do all the work.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 04:45 PM (cK4d/)

419

You might reconsider after she take out her teeth.

Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 04:46 PM (In1re)

420

Dear Honey Badger, 

Did you leave any scraappps?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at February 23, 2011 04:47 PM (6yyVB)

421 Aunt Zetuni just lies there.

I'll take sentences that sound like the D-Day message to French underground for $1,200, Alex.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 23, 2011 04:47 PM (7utQ2)

422
Bang!  Bang!  Bang!  Bang!

That's the sound of Huckabee pounding nails into his presidential coffin.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at February 23, 2011 04:47 PM (ZHsNw)

423
Okay, which one of you M&Ms shoved a Honey Badger up Ihaterethugs' butthole sideways?

Shoving not necessary. Said orifice has been made large enough by years of accommodating union thugs and enviro weenies to allow Honey Badger to walk right in, and consume everything in his path, including the brain.

Posted by: MissTammy at February 23, 2011 04:47 PM (BebB7)

424 ....after she take out her teeth.

Both of them?

Posted by: El Presidenté at February 23, 2011 04:47 PM (H+LJc)

425
It doesn't understand that Shell is Dutch.




And here I thought that the Clampetts owned Shell. You learn something new every day.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 23, 2011 04:47 PM (yf5H9)

426 Moamar Quadaffi??Ohhhh, he's the guy who owns the 7-11 across from Katie's Diner.

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 23, 2011 04:48 PM (HF2C9)

427 3:00 am and he forgot to take the call.

Posted by: cvb at February 23, 2011 04:49 PM (Elo4W)

428

Huckabee continues to take brave positions on the important issues of the day like....ummmm.....Michelle Obama's public image and how much he knows about personal fitness.

Posted by: Paper at February 23, 2011 04:50 PM (VoSja)

429 The Clampetts owned CowBell.  Easy mistake.

I'll take Ellie May for the weekend, Alex.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 04:50 PM (cK4d/)

430 And here I thought that the Clampetts owned Shell.

The Clampetts owned OK Oil Company.  And yes, I just frightened myself.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 23, 2011 04:50 PM (7utQ2)

431 Former fat pigs often feel the need to become prophets of slimming.Fuck the Huck.

Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2011 04:51 PM (HF2C9)

432 427 Moamar Quadaffi??Ohhhh, he's the guy who owns the 7-11 across from Katie's Diner.

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 23, 2011 08:48 PM (HF2C9) 


Where the hell has Slow Joe been lately?  Please don't tell me he's been air-dropped into Libya. 



Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2011 04:51 PM (UOM48)

433 Pardon me, Mike Huckabee.

No really.

Pardon me.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 04:52 PM (cK4d/)

434 3:00 am and he forgot to take the call.

Posted by: cvb at February 23, 2011 08:49 PM (Elo4W)

Forgot?  Hell, he is all balled up on the Presibed pissing himself.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 23, 2011 04:52 PM (yQWNf)

435 434 Vacation I believe.

Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2011 04:53 PM (HF2C9)

436 Every time I look at Huckabee I think about denim-collared shirts in size 4X and squirrel meat.

Posted by: Paper at February 23, 2011 04:54 PM (VoSja)

437
My people used to own Anadarko Petroleum, but the white devils came along and stole our land, our oil, and our only beautiful woman, Halle Berry .

Posted by: Ward Churchill, U of Colorado Professor at February 23, 2011 04:54 PM (ZHsNw)

438 Do the Dutch make ovens ?

Posted by: wildwood at February 23, 2011 04:54 PM (VSWPU)

439 Slow Joe is planning the invasion of Liberia right now as we speak.


Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 04:55 PM (cK4d/)

440 Why do we care if Libya splits into seven more homogeneous tribal regions?

We don't, as long as the part that has the oil is controlled by the tribe called: ExxonMobil and defended by the mythical warriors of Xe.

Posted by: Jean at February 23, 2011 04:55 PM (CPefM)

441
440....Big ones that cook corpsemen

Posted by: El Presidenté at February 23, 2011 04:56 PM (H+LJc)

442 Huckabee looked over at Christie and said, "Hey, I was fat first!"

This is after him claiming he invented hunting--after seeing Palin doing that on TV.

No one can out-do the Huck.  And now he'll put all the weight back on to prove it.

Posted by: rdbrewer at February 23, 2011 04:56 PM (HvxI9)

443 #436  Present Ogabe is behaving well at the Wednesday night WH drink and drug fest and has not yet retreated behind the curtains to begin playing with and flicking his poo.  However, after 9:00 PM, all bets are off.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at February 23, 2011 04:56 PM (6yyVB)

444

I'm thinking about making a website that is a "Where Are They Now?" of all the people Huckabee pardoned as governor.

I'm sure the Nobel Prize Winners and Rhodes Scholars will balance out the police shootings and rapes.

Thoughts?

Posted by: Paper at February 23, 2011 04:57 PM (VoSja)

445 Palin thinks she's the only one who can give birth too.  I'll show her.

Posted by: Huckabee at February 23, 2011 04:57 PM (HvxI9)

446 I believe that the Wakandan military will send peace-keepers into Libya to restore order.

Rest easy.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 04:57 PM (cK4d/)

447 Here's a helpful safety tip,  since the union wars are beginning:

Joe Franco, a former Hoffa lieutenant, described the security technique Hoffa taught his officers: "To this day, I still have the habit he drilled into me about getting into a car. I put my right leg in and my left leg stays out, and then I start my car. If the car is rigged and you start your car that way, you have a 50-50 chance of surviving because if it blows up, it will blow you out of the car."



Posted by: Miss Marple at February 23, 2011 04:59 PM (Fo83G)

448 Defense of DOMA dropped today. Huckabee opens his jowly gob.

Coincidence?

I think the RINOs must have got marching orders.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 04:59 PM (cK4d/)

449

His, "highest priority" yet, Obama was in I believe Ohio yesterday "having fun" in break out sessions with business folks.  Brainstorming about our economy.  Meanwhile the banking system is in a state of collapse, we have U6 real unemployment of 22 percent, a 14T debt, a 2012 fiscal budget with a 1T deficit, 100 T in unfunded liabilities and a currency that is tanking with a fed who is engaged in QE 2 purchasing nearly 1T of T bills from banks with fake money, with an IMF and world stage poised to replace the dollar as the reserve currency.

With the middle east stoked for a complete meltdown in addition to Obama injecting inflammatory rhetoric with domestic unions who are acting now in violence.

Yeah, things are working out fine.

Posted by: Journolist at February 23, 2011 04:59 PM (iHfo1)

450 Where the hell has Slow Joe been lately?  Please don't tell me he's been air-dropped into Libya. 

Tripoli... shit; I'm still only in Tripoli... Every time I think I'm gonna wake up back in the desert.

Posted by: Sherrif Joe at February 23, 2011 05:00 PM (nIoiW)

451 Paul Atreides just emerged from the Libyan Desert riding a giant worm.  Does that mean anything?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 23, 2011 05:00 PM (7utQ2)

452 451:

Perfect time for the Dems to get everyone fighting over where people stick their junk.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 05:01 PM (cK4d/)

453

Union protesters have really showed their asses today.   First, a thug beats up on Tabitha Hale, then they catch another one screaming, "You're a bad Jew!   Bad Jew!"

I'm about to overdose on popcorn.

Posted by: Steph at February 23, 2011 05:01 PM (AkdC5)

454 His, "highest priority" yet, Obama was in I believe Ohio yesterday "having fun" in break out sessions with business folks.

That's "The Tech Belt" to you, hater.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 23, 2011 05:01 PM (7utQ2)

455 Paul Atreides just emerged from the Libyan Desert riding a giant worm.  Does that mean anything?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 23, 2011 09:00 PM (7utQ2)

Beetlejuice.... Beetlejuice.... Beetlejuice!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 23, 2011 05:02 PM (yQWNf)

456

I am so sorry I am such a shitty precendent.  I love Marx, Che, and Mohammed and I think about how I can help my union masters while lying to you.  Please love me long time so I will not have the burden of loving myself, by myself.

Gotta run, got some poo flickin' to do as it's 9:02.

Posted by: Barry Insane at February 23, 2011 05:02 PM (6yyVB)

457
we need a Cash for Clunkers Despots program

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 23, 2011 05:02 PM (UQjUb)

458

I'm too damn tired to give a shit about these crappy third worlds toliets.  Let them break up and kill each other instead of us.  For the most part they can't even wipe their own asses properly.

Solution:  Drill for oil and natural gas at home.  What a fucking novel concept!

Posted by: mpfs at February 23, 2011 05:02 PM (iqMB8)

459
452 Bwahahahahahaah.... unhhh..... Bwahahahahahaah

Posted by: El Presidenté at February 23, 2011 05:03 PM (H+LJc)

460 Solution:  Drill for oil and natural gas at home.  What a fucking novel concept!

That will not work.

Posted by: The Eco-tard Democrats at February 23, 2011 05:04 PM (OKZrE)

461

Folks. laminate your copies of the constitution. It may eventually be deemed, 'subversive' by this administration.  After all, it speaks of a creator and inalienable rights conferred by a creator. You may also want to laminate the declaration of independence and your bibles too. 

Hyerbolic?  Perhaps but did you ever think we'd have a socialist in the WH who is OK with partial birth abortions and leaving out references to God when reciting our founding documents?   

Posted by: Journolist at February 23, 2011 05:04 PM (iHfo1)

462 to the american people: you can dere-lique! my balls

Posted by: Barack Obama at February 23, 2011 05:05 PM (6QOyl)

463

#463

...did you ever think we'd have a socialist in the WH who is OK with partial birth abortions and leaving out references to God when reciting our founding documents? 

We've had plenty; he is just the first to be open about it.

Posted by: Paper at February 23, 2011 05:06 PM (VoSja)

464

And for those who want to nit pick, the constitution was forerunned by the declaration and was built upon inferred rights emanating from the Creator.

There.

Posted by: Journolist at February 23, 2011 05:06 PM (iHfo1)

465 Would the break up of Libya result a DOMA like system? I'd hate to think that a gay marriage performed in one tribal government would not be recognized by another.

Posted by: Paper at February 23, 2011 05:08 PM (VoSja)

466 Back to another big topic.  Wisconsin.

NPR having fun doing a little happy-face story about some pizza outfit in Madison doing lots of deliveries to the union supporters camped out there, and how others, supporters all, from far afield, wanting to know how they can get some of the same pizza.

Just a comfy little radio story, a vignette, to make everyone feel good about this "sit-in." 

Tea party gathering = violent racist scum.

Union thugs gathering = boy scout jamboree

Can't we pull the plug on NPR?

Posted by: I-wuz-too-hip-now-I'm-just-cynical at February 23, 2011 05:08 PM (4sQwu)

467 I condemn violets.

Posted by: wildwood at February 23, 2011 05:08 PM (VSWPU)

468 Sheriff Joe: Could we, uh... talk to Colonel Qadhafi?

Journalist: Hey, man, you don't talk to the Colonel. You listen to him. The man's enlarged my mind. He's a poet warrior in the classic sense. I mean sometimes he'll... uh... well, you'll say "hello" to him, right? And he'll just walk right by you. He won't even notice you. And suddenly he'll grab you, and he'll throw you in a corner, and he'll say, "Do you know that 'if' is the middle word in life? If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you, if you can trust yourself when all men doubt you"... I mean I'm... no, I can't... I'm a little man, I'm a little man, he's... he's a great man! I should have been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across floors of silent seas...

Posted by: Sherriff Joe at February 23, 2011 05:08 PM (nIoiW)

469 I'm running to the store.  Anyone want anything?

Posted by: Journolist at February 23, 2011 05:10 PM (iHfo1)

470 It's Wednesday night at the White House. That's celebrity stroke-off night. Who is Obama fellating tonight instead of doing his job? Anybody get the guest list?

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 05:11 PM (cK4d/)

471 Hey gang, Huckabee is just being coy about running for president.

Hope this helps.

Posted by: SOS Hillary at February 23, 2011 05:12 PM (/8mBu)

472 Obama/Biden: The horror.....the horror....

Posted by: USS Diversity at February 23, 2011 05:12 PM (DLxD/)

473
471  See if they have any of the "New Competent Leaders" we're out of.

Posted by: El Presidenté at February 23, 2011 05:12 PM (H+LJc)

474

The Clampetts owned OK Oil Company.  And yes, I just frightened myself.

You should be scared.

I'll take Jethro for 30 minutes, Alex.

Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 05:13 PM (In1re)

475 I'm running to the store.  Anyone want anything?

Posted by: Journolist at February 23, 2011 09:10 PM (iHfo1)

 

Yo yo yo hey slick.  Could you pick me up a carton of Kools and a nice twist top wine please. 

Posted by: B+rry ODumbass at February 23, 2011 05:14 PM (yQWNf)

476 What's the word?  Thunderbird.

Posted by: wildwood at February 23, 2011 05:14 PM (VSWPU)

477 What's the price? 50 twice.

Posted by: USS Diversity at February 23, 2011 05:15 PM (DLxD/)

478
Posted by: Ihaterethugs at February 23, 2011 08:22 PM (pYurd)

Hey cocksucker, there's that little thing called supply that your favorite scumbag in chief seems to want to deprive those oil companies of, so his foreign buddies like Soros can cash in on and fuck over the American people also.

It's called economics asshole.......

Posted by: crowsting at February 23, 2011 05:15 PM (1DPxx)

479 TJ Swan.  Mellow days, easy nights.

Posted by: wildwood at February 23, 2011 05:17 PM (VSWPU)

480 I tried to watch Frank Lutz's focus group on Hannity. Then I got annoyed.

Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 05:17 PM (In1re)

481 Begun, the union wars have

Posted by: Yoga at February 23, 2011 05:17 PM (HvxI9)

482 Slide me some Mogan David up in a  paper bag, yo.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 05:17 PM (cK4d/)

483 449 Here's a helpful safety tip,  since the union wars are beginning:

Joe Franco, a former Hoffa lieutenant, described the security technique Hoffa taught his officers: "To this day, I still have the habit he drilled into me about getting into a car. I put my right leg in and my left leg stays out, and then I start my car. If the car is rigged and you start your car that way, you have a 50-50 chance of surviving because if it blows up, it will blow you out of the car."

Lovely.  Reminds me of the stories my mom has told of growing up in a union household in the 50s and 60s.

My personal favorite is the one about the guy up the street whose house was bombed because his brother testified against Jimmy Hoffa and the Teamsters thought he might be hiding out there.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 23, 2011 05:18 PM (b8JnP)

484 It's hard to spell Moamar Qadhafi, so I didn't have it on my screen. Thus, jugs didn't say it.

Posted by: TOTUS at February 23, 2011 05:18 PM (jGXQI)

485
My my, a republican circle jerk
.

Lemme guess...you're jealous because you didn't get invited to be pivot man...

Posted by: antisocialist at February 23, 2011 05:18 PM (Rwudm)

486

You have to see this billboard

 

Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 05:19 PM (In1re)

487 I was going to the worst place in the world and I didn't even know it yet. Weeks away and hundreds of miles up a sand river that snaked through Lybia like a main circuit cable plugged straight into Qadhafi. It was no accident that I got to be the caretaker of Colonel Homo Hair Qadhafi's  memory any more than being back in Tripoli was an accident. There is no way to tell his story without telling my own. And if his story really is a confession, then so is mine.....

Posted by: Joe "Injun Accent" Biden at February 23, 2011 05:19 PM (H+LJc)

488 Can we send Rev Wright to Libya as a Presidential envoy?  or at least start the rumor so the White House has to deny it?

Posted by: Jean at February 23, 2011 05:21 PM (CPefM)

489 467 Would the break up of Libya result a DOMA like system? I'd hate to think that a gay man-camel marriage performed in one tribal government would not be recognized by another.

Posted by: Paper at February 23, 2011 09:08 PM (VoSja)

FIFY

Posted by: logprof at February 23, 2011 05:22 PM (wZoXd)

490 He always wears that UN puke blue tie. I wonder if he is a global Marxist.

Posted by: Leatherneck at February 23, 2011 05:22 PM (hVt9h)

491 Why do we care if Libya splits into seven more homogeneous tribal regions?

Possibly because it's hard enough to keep track of one crazy-ass fuckin' dictator, let alone seven of 'em...

Posted by: antisocialist at February 23, 2011 05:23 PM (Rwudm)

492 [cleaned-up]

Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2011 05:23 PM (HF2C9)

493 dagny- lmao!  I would take the peanut man right now over the POS we are stuck with.

Posted by: jewells45 at February 23, 2011 05:23 PM (Z71Vg)

494

BP is an English company, they can't buy shit.  Try Shell and the other big companies, you shitbags are all owned like slaves.

I pity you!!

Posted by: Ihaterethugs at February 23, 2011 08:31 PM (pYurd)

--Bwahaha!  Dumbass troll asserts (falsely) that BP has no influence as a British company, then cites a Dutch oil company!


Begone lame troll.

Posted by: logprof at February 23, 2011 05:25 PM (lAeU1)

495 I still have Obama ahead of Wilson; but the race to the bottom is tightening.

Posted by: Jean at February 23, 2011 05:26 PM (CPefM)

496 "I don't think I want tangible American action here."

August 2, 1964, Gulf of Tonkin Incident.

January 27, 1973, Paris Peace Accords signed, 8 years and 7 months later. 

October 7, 2001, Invasion of Afghanistan

February 23, 2011,  9 years, 4 months and no end in sight.  


Just saying ...

Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN at February 23, 2011 05:26 PM (ZTn9N)

497 Wilson was Satan incarnate

Posted by: Joe at February 23, 2011 05:27 PM (H+LJc)

498 Is there anyway to tell if a troll is really an libidiot or a gov't employee/computer program?

Posted by: momma at February 23, 2011 05:29 PM (penCf)

499 494 Huh?What was wrong with that??

Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2011 05:29 PM (HF2C9)

500 Do you have a point, Admiral?

Just asking.

Posted by: fluffy at February 23, 2011 05:30 PM (SwkdU)

501 494 Huh?What was wrong with that??

Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2011 09:29 PM (HF2C9)

I missed it steevy.  Could you retype it?

Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2011 05:31 PM (VuLos)

502 Obama's lip color has nothing to do with his race.It's been noted before that his lips are bluish/purplish.

Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2011 05:31 PM (HF2C9)

503 Speaking of trolls, did we confirm that "Cain's Pizzeria" is the ol' palin stelle/donkeyhotay/troll-who-laughs-about-miscarriages?

Posted by: logprof at February 23, 2011 05:31 PM (wZoXd)

504 Sheriff Joe: Could we, uh... talk to Colonel Qadhafi?

GET AWAY FROM MY TRUCK!!!  You smudged it, it's just like that MacArthur's Park song that was popular during the second year of our glorious revolution which is record for shortest convergence between decadent infidel American music and Islamic paradise revolutions--top that, Assad!  I would kill for some good cheese, you just can't get it any more and I think that all my hats are too tight and it's screwing with my sense of taste so I'm going to replace all of them with these loose-fitting burlap feed sacks that I found at a flea market in Tobruk last Tuesday before all the coke-headed teenagers started whining about the batteries on their iPods dying and how come we didn't buy the maintenance guarantee at Best Buy, well it's all just a scam to fund this conspiracy in favor of sea salt and it makes my skin breakout and then my bodyguards look at me funny which was the problem with King Idris, he looked at everybody funny and so I told him to just get his stuff and leave, but not to touch my blue suede shoes, tent and apple sauce dish that Reagan broke in 1986 in addition to my daughter before I could even have her circumcised which is a glorious reminder of proud tribal heritage.....HEY, DO YOU WANT TO BE SOMALIA, HUH?  CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GET ME A GLASS OF SAN PELLIGRINO?  The bubbles set off the beads on the side of my colonel insignias that are designed to match the look in Saddam's eyes when they pulled him out of that spider-hole and that's not going to happen to me because I will personally pull the molars from my enemies mouths unless they have already lost them which is the style in Palestine where everyone is happy that I send them care packages of Bath and Body Works products, but not the vanilla-scented stuff...I eat that on my pancakes.

Posted by: Your Pal Moammar at February 23, 2011 05:31 PM (7utQ2)

505 [[cleaned-up]]

Posted by: wildwood at February 23, 2011 05:31 PM (VSWPU)

506 WTF is going on?

Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2011 05:32 PM (HF2C9)

507

You have to see this billboard

 

Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 09:19 PM (In1re)

--There was a whole thread about it some time last year.  It was certified to be legit, not a Photoshop.

Posted by: logprof at February 23, 2011 05:33 PM (lAeU1)

508 [[cleaned-up]]

Posted by: wildwood at February 23, 2011 05:33 PM (VSWPU)

Posted by: momma at February 23, 2011 05:33 PM (penCf)

510
504 And what is with the strange makeup for national television?

Posted by: Beto at February 23, 2011 05:34 PM (H+LJc)

511 <redacted>

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 23, 2011 05:34 PM (yQWNf)

513

You Obama haters are still here crying?

Go figure, none of you have jobs.  Might be why you hate the unions so much.

Posted by: Ihaterethugs at February 23, 2011 05:35 PM (pYurd)

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 23, 2011 05:35 PM (b8JnP)

515 Tore up

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 05:36 PM (cK4d/)

Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2011 05:36 PM (VuLos)

517 516 Yeah,most people work at 9:30 pm Einstein.

Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2011 05:36 PM (HF2C9)

518 From momma's linky:

Sources say that because Obama was largely paying her own way, she insisted on the final say.

Uh huh.  Right.  "Largely."

Posted by: logprof at February 23, 2011 05:37 PM (lAeU1)

519 Not everyone can work for Axelrod, pyurd.

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 05:38 PM (cK4d/)

520 [Thought of, but not posted]

Posted by: USS Diversity at February 23, 2011 05:38 PM (DLxD/)

Posted by: curious at February 23, 2011 05:38 PM (p302b)

522 Whether Libya "Balkanizes" or not it, I think, is utterly out of our hands.  I don't see anyone, the U.S. alone or with anyone else, going in to stabilize things, oil or no. Who has the money for that?  We're broke already!  And OMG it would be a WAR FOR OIL !!!eleventy!!! Our one and only position vis-a-vis ANYTHING going on in that part of the world should be ENERGY INDEPENDENCE.  Drill Baby Drill from Alaska to the Gulf of Mexico from sea to shining sea and everywhere in-between.  THIS is the ONLY way we extricate ourselves from the endless drama of the OPEC states, their petty dictators and their insane religion.  Let them eat their oil.  Why this is not obvious to everyone in political office is beyond my ken.

Posted by: Syracuse1989 at February 23, 2011 05:38 PM (Q6ZUl)

523 Want to know what Christchurch is like after the earthquake?

Read this: (from New Zeal)

Notes From a Disaster Zone

Posted by: momma at February 23, 2011 05:38 PM (penCf)

524

You Obama haters are still here crying?

Go figure, none of you have jobs.  Might be why you hate the unions so much.

Posted by: Ihaterethugs at February 23, 2011 09:35 PM (pYurd)

--Just because you have to man the chicken fryer on the evening shift doesn't mean we have to.

Posted by: logprof at February 23, 2011 05:38 PM (lAeU1)

525 Uh huh.  Right.  "Largely."

Posted by: logprof at February 23, 2011 09:37 PM (lAeU1)

Seems like the appropriate word to use.

Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2011 05:38 PM (VuLos)

526 Do I care if libya splits up? Can we grab the oil parts? But hey I never knew that Obama's outreach to the Muslim World meant setting fire to the entire Middle East. See I misunderstood what he said in Cairo 2 years back.

Posted by: nevergiveup at February 23, 2011 05:39 PM (7wmOW)

527 [detrolled]

Posted by: wildwood at February 23, 2011 05:39 PM (VSWPU)

528 I don't understand the Middle East. If Qadhafi were in a True Grit movie heÂ’d be shot in the first scene.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at February 23, 2011 05:39 PM (EiH7n)

529

sock puppet OFF

sorry, needed vengence for falling for one bad a few weeks ago

but i'm still a democrat so please, continue the beating

and before you clowns start....Da Bears were robbed!!!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 23, 2011 05:39 PM (pYurd)

530

You Obama haters are still here crying?

Go figure, none of you have jobs.  Might be why you hate the unions so much.

Oh, we have jobs, child; real jobs, with computers and internet access and  everything....not workin' the fry machine like you.


Posted by: MissTammy at February 23, 2011 05:39 PM (BebB7)

531 [thought crime removed]

Posted by: [cleaned up] at February 23, 2011 05:39 PM (H+LJc)

532 Yeah,most people work at 9:30 pm Einstein.

Lazy bastard! Picking peanuts out of poop is a 24 hour gig.

Posted by: eyeh8tugs at February 23, 2011 05:39 PM (SwkdU)

533 Go figure, none of you have jobs.  Might be why you hate the unions so much.

Please tell me what to do wise one.

In the meantime, I'll be over here hating unions so much.

Posted by: Your Pal Moammar at February 23, 2011 05:39 PM (7utQ2)

534 Ameircaaaa Fuck ya!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jake_in_Idaho at February 23, 2011 05:40 PM (BLb4+)

535 532 You do that so well,it comes natural to ya.

Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2011 05:41 PM (HF2C9)

536

You Obama haters are still here crying?

Go figure, none of you have jobs.  Might be why you hate the unions so much.

Posted by: Ihaterethugs at February 23, 2011 09:35 PM (pYurd)

You still cleaning toilets with your tounge paying those sweet union dues to your masters?

Posted by: robtr at February 23, 2011 05:41 PM (hVDig)

537 logprof:

I liked this:

Vice President Joe Biden spent the Presidents Day weekend in the Florida Keys.
...

The first lady's stop in Vail created quite a buzz around town.

One savvy commenter asked if this was a bi-partisan vacation, since Aspen usually gets the Democrats and Vail gets the Republicans.

A few wished them well, while many asked how much all this was costing America's taxpayers.

Posted by: momma at February 23, 2011 05:41 PM (penCf)

538 Da Bears were robbed!!!!!

Fuck them

Posted by: 1985 Patriots at February 23, 2011 05:41 PM (SwkdU)

539 [lobotomized]

Posted by: wildwood at February 23, 2011 05:41 PM (VSWPU)

540 [[cleaned-up then burned]]

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 23, 2011 05:42 PM (1fB+3)

541 Whether Libya "Balkanizes" or not it, I think, is utterly out of our hands.

Ever notice how anything the Brits engineer falls apart after a while?
Cars, motorcycles, boats, guns...toady countries.... the list is long

Posted by: [cleaned up] at February 23, 2011 05:43 PM (H+LJc)

542 Hey anybody one of those 10 online identities the BHO administration contracted for to sway the peeps programatically?

Posted by: Jake_in_Idaho at February 23, 2011 05:43 PM (BLb4+)

543 [   ]

Posted by: wildwood at February 23, 2011 05:43 PM (VSWPU)

544 <Sent to detention and then bed without supper>

Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 05:43 PM (cK4d/)

545

and before you clowns start....Da Bears were robbed!!!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 23, 2011 09:39 PM (pYurd)

Honey Badger don't give a shit

Posted by: robtr at February 23, 2011 05:43 PM (hVDig)

546 Lazy bastard! Picking peanuts out of poop is a 24 hour gig.

Especially when you factor in eating all the peanuts afterward, but it's my favorite part of the job.

Posted by: ihaterethugs at February 23, 2011 05:43 PM (BebB7)

547 Sock off

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 23, 2011 05:43 PM (7utQ2)

548

sock puppet OFF

sorry, needed vengence for falling for one bad a few weeks ago

but i'm still a democrat so please, continue the beating

and before you clowns start....Da Bears were robbed!!!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 23, 2011 09:39 PM (pYurd)

--You ass!

Oh, and they were robbed when they traded for Jay Cutler, if that's what you mean.

Posted by: logprof at February 23, 2011 05:43 PM (wZoXd)

549 Its the rights fault

Posted by: ass at February 23, 2011 05:43 PM (CSizx)

550 Need to stop touching myself here: http://moisturepoints.blogspot.com/

Posted by: M. Points at February 23, 2011 05:45 PM (VOG7N)

551 Look at Obama run in slow motion.

Posted by: Randall at February 23, 2011 05:45 PM (cK4d/)

552

553 Oh, and they were robbed when they traded for Jay Cutler, if that's what you mean.

yep, and when they got that idiot lovie

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 23, 2011 05:45 PM (pYurd)

553 I SUCK

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 23, 2011 05:45 PM (CSizx)

554 A few wished them well, while many asked how much all this was costing America's taxpayers.

Posted by: momma at February 23, 2011 09:41 PM (penCf)

--Hey everyone;s gotta sacrifice!  Maybe Michelle originally wanted to go to Tahiti, so I guess she's doing her part, right?

Posted by: logprof at February 23, 2011 05:45 PM (wZoXd)

555 Let's just hope the ones that still speak Italian will have the oil fields.

No doubt they will have the babes.

A fucking sink hole which we could erase in 20 minutes.

Balls? No one has them anymore.

Posted by: Kemp at February 23, 2011 05:45 PM (JpFM9)

556

557  all that or my choice of sport teams just sucks

denial, a river that flows through chicago....

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 23, 2011 05:46 PM (pYurd)

557 Its the rights fault

Yeah, we have too many.

In other news, we have a serious apostrophe gap in this country and I will not stand for it any longer.  Someone get Mike Huckabee on the phone.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 23, 2011 05:46 PM (7utQ2)

558 [de-balled]

Posted by: wildwood at February 23, 2011 05:46 PM (VSWPU)

559 Don't hear much about the NZ disaster..they must be too anglo saxon to worry about.

Posted by: USS Diversity at February 23, 2011 05:46 PM (DLxD/)

560 I am the doctor of spanking my own monkey

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 23, 2011 05:46 PM (CSizx)

561

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 23, 2011 09:39 PM (pTurd)

I'm glad when I picture you I see the long haired pollywog pic you posted.

Scheming Hippy!

 

Posted by: KZnextzone at February 23, 2011 05:46 PM (ZUWaD)

562 am I the only one that read "Obama condoms" as the title?

Posted by: Vercingetorix at February 23, 2011 05:47 PM (UExmo)

563 Balls? No one has them anymore.

George Washington had four

Posted by: [cleaned up] at February 23, 2011 05:47 PM (H+LJc)

564 Posted by: robtr at February 23, 2011 09:41 PM (hVDig)


Sure he does but he does get 2 fifteen minutes breaks.

Posted by: dogfish at February 23, 2011 05:47 PM (N2yhW)

565 Are you kidding, she wanted to go skiing in the Alps. They said, "No, Moo-shelle, the Spain vacation pissed people off so you have to go american." After throwing a couch through a window and stomping her size 15 feet, she finally relented because she had heard Colorado had world-famous barbeque.

Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 05:48 PM (In1re)

566 564 Yup,insufficient melanin levels.

Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2011 05:48 PM (HF2C9)

567 am I the only one that read "Obama condoms" as the title?

Yes, Verc.  But that's what makes you special.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 23, 2011 05:48 PM (7utQ2)

568 I am the master of my own spanker

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 23, 2011 05:48 PM (CSizx)

569
567...Headlines are a dyslexic's playground.

Posted by: [cleaned up] at February 23, 2011 05:48 PM (H+LJc)

570 Any of you metro sexual thugs looking for a good time and a hot hot country? Call 1-900-Qadhafi.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at February 23, 2011 05:49 PM (EiH7n)

571 I am a cunning linguist.

Posted by: wildwood at February 23, 2011 05:49 PM (VSWPU)

572 567 Do they make them that small?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 23, 2011 05:50 PM (SJ6/3)

573 We are a band of cunning runts

Posted by: The Leprechauns at February 23, 2011 05:50 PM (H+LJc)

574 I'm doing the best I can, I'm just not that bright.

Posted by: President Hussein at February 23, 2011 05:50 PM (1fB+3)

575 567 am I the only one that read "Obama condoms" as the title?

If only Obama's father had used them. 

Posted by: Y-not at February 23, 2011 05:51 PM (pW2o8)

576 We are all master debaters.

Posted by: wildwood at February 23, 2011 05:51 PM (VSWPU)

577 568 Balls? No one has them anymore.

George Washington had four

I am thinking he is dead, but since I went to public schools I not be being sure, did he march with Martin Luther King?   or is he the one next to Obama on that rock out west?

Posted by: Kemp at February 23, 2011 05:51 PM (JpFM9)

578 ONT!!

Posted by: The Leprechauns at February 23, 2011 05:52 PM (H+LJc)

579 What's with all these redacted posts?  They're a nuisance.

Posted by: logprof at February 23, 2011 05:52 PM (wZoXd)

580 You mean this wasn't the ONT ?

Posted by: wildwood at February 23, 2011 05:52 PM (VSWPU)

581 V lives

Posted by: xrgt at February 23, 2011 05:52 PM (HafxF)

582 Libyans:  "We just want to live like human beings."

Precedent B+ Hussein: "Like human beings?  $100/year ought to do you.  I recommend it for my own family.  Those cardboard boxes are really nice, this time of year."

Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 23, 2011 05:52 PM (N49h9)

583 Fortunately, she's too stupid to know to go to Utah for skiing.  We are spared. 

Posted by: Y-not at February 23, 2011 05:53 PM (pW2o8)

584 Matthews Accuses Huckabee of Wanting to Commit Genocide, Says Limbaugh & Beck 'Ethnically Disdain' O http://tiny.ly/Frut

Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 05:53 PM (In1re)

585 I like dudes. And blow.

Posted by: President Hussein at February 23, 2011 05:53 PM (1fB+3)

586 [[[cleaned-up]]]

Posted by: wildwood at February 23, 2011 05:53 PM (VSWPU)

587 We are a band of cunning runts Posted by: The Leprechauns What's the difference between a circus act and cheerleaders? One is a lot of cunning stunts and the other is a bunch of stunning cu,,, wait, telephone.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at February 23, 2011 05:54 PM (EiH7n)

588 I love my own bile

Posted by: Dr Spooge at February 23, 2011 05:54 PM (HafxF)

589 Evening all!  I had a nice day today.  'Hope you all did, as well. 

Also, when are we going to declare Arhooley Day?  I'm picturing parades, clowns (hobos, natch), and fireworks. 

Posted by: Y-not at February 23, 2011 05:54 PM (pW2o8)

590 Wingerds, your God is not real

Posted by: Kilgore at February 23, 2011 05:57 PM (HafxF)

591 Ok, quite please. I'm watching tv.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at February 23, 2011 06:00 PM (EiH7n)

592 Call 1-900-Qadhafi.

I already did this and got nothing but prank calls from some old lady in Kansas asking if I still had the olive green refrigerator and stove for sale and I haven;t sold anything to anyone since I conned Chavez into giving me three thousand bucks for a set of Mason jars that were left over from the move into that smaller tent that I meditate in five times a day for an hour or so after prayers, but the new mullah is such a bore that I picked up the Quran audio book read by Ruth Buzzi after I realized that a set of Bose headphones would look great on me if I wrapped them in aluminum foil and wore them across my neck and not on top of my head, it's the kind of style that we need to encourage more in our older population who are less interested in burning things and more interested in Spirograph designs from the early days of the Revolution and no one holds the Israelis accountable for their horrific embargo of the little blue pins that hold the Spirograph plastic things in place and securing the Spirograph plastic things in place is just the kind of guidance that I have given Libya, the African Union, the United Nations Human Rights Commission and the website designers for that one guy who's in all those Franch movies, no the other guy, no you know the guy I'm talking about, yes HIM.  DEATH TO ISRAEL.  AND CAN SOMEONE PLEASE CLOSE THAT VENT, MY SINUSES ARE BEGINNING TO THROB.

Posted by: Your Pal Moammar at February 23, 2011 06:03 PM (7utQ2)

593 Michelle Obama has a nice plump and round ass........... Compared to JABBA THE HUTT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Frank Gordan at February 23, 2011 06:03 PM (zVOB7)

594 Obama has not said anything about Libya becasue he does not want insult his family.........

Posted by: Jammie Glandon at February 23, 2011 06:04 PM (zVOB7)

595

Damn, where's an open thread when you need one!?

Go to PowerLine and read about the political protection racket the Center for American Progress is running.  Jesse J. done learnt them well!  Pisses me off that WalMart seems to be playing along in this case - just bought a mighty fine laptop from them, at a great price.

How can I quickly check on contributions from a legitimate business to a racketeering outfit like CFAP?  I hate to punish a good enterprise, but dammit, they are enabling corruption of the political system of my country, and if they haven't got the nads to fight it, they are no friends of mine!

Posted by: sherlock at February 23, 2011 06:05 PM (thr9V)

Posted by: curious at February 23, 2011 06:05 PM (p302b)

597 586 V lives

Posted by: xrgt at February 23, 2011 09:52 PM (HafxF)

--Shhh, I missed it last night.  No spoilers!

Posted by: logprof at February 23, 2011 06:08 PM (lAeU1)

599 What's the Latin for "Fuck Me Harder, Mohammed!"? Pedica me Mohamadus.

Posted by: cheshirecat at February 23, 2011 06:25 PM (falUA)

600 Pedica me durior Mohamadus!

Posted by: cheshirecat at February 23, 2011 06:33 PM (falUA)

601 Sorry, third time's the charm: Pedica me durior Mahometus!

Posted by: cheshirecat at February 23, 2011 06:34 PM (falUA)

602 Pedicabo me tibi semper magis, Mohammed Should we disturbed that you know this? That's a little long winded, though. My example is shorter and more succinct.

Posted by: cheshirecat at February 23, 2011 06:35 PM (falUA)

603 And second, who else would you want singing the key role in Aristophanes's The Frogs? Well, Nathan Lane already had his shot at it.

Posted by: cheshirecat at February 23, 2011 06:38 PM (falUA)

604 I'm reallylike the cut of Mummar's jib. And the way he manhandles those reich wing teabaggers is awesome. hell. I might even go to Texas and set some oil wells on fire too!

Posted by: B+rry Ob+owmao at February 23, 2011 06:40 PM (c9iUg)

605 Both. Now that we have Hamas in Mexico. I think you mean Hezbollah. Tomato, tomahto.

Posted by: cheshirecat at February 23, 2011 06:43 PM (falUA)

606 Fox news now reports that Rev. Wright and Col Daffy are long time chums!

Posted by: navybrat at February 23, 2011 06:45 PM (zQZbg)

607 Is  Momar Moving to Berkley with the " GITMO Guys" or the CAIR Folks in DC ? Both are his Freinds..

Posted by: DW Pepper at February 23, 2011 07:09 PM (LYD6R)

608 <blockquote>Does anyone care about this? Is there a single good reason to champion these arbitrary lines and larger-than-needed-or-wanted states which unite tribes that don't want to be under a single authority?</blockquote>

Yes.

One rabidly anti-Israel nation with a vote in the UN security council will become six rabidly anti-Israel nation with a vote in the UN security council.

Posted by: Scott at February 23, 2011 07:29 PM (ACWui)

609 stuiec at February 23, 2011 06:06 PM (Di3Im)

He may just have set us up for a hostage crisis, or worse, deliberately. 

After hearing BuraqÂ’s speech, and hearing that the ferry that we hired to evacuate the embassy staff and hundreds to thousands of American nationals who were ordered to get out had not arrived; I started looking for what forces we have available in case we had to rescue them. If what I found is true, our entire current force in the Mediterranean consists of one (1) destroyer. I knew that we sent a carrier [ENTERPRISE] through Suez a week or so ago, but we usually are rotating ships around and have at least one CVBG either in the Med or close enough to get there in a hurry. Both of our CVBGÂ’s in the area are in the Arabian Sea now.

We do not have a single MEU in the area, the KEARSARGE group being near Bahrain. Let alone an MEF. The nearest MEU is the 22nd which is working up for deployment near Camp Lejeune. I do not know where it is in the working up cycle, but they are 15 days steaming from the Gulf of Sidra if they leave today. The carrier TRUMAN CVN-75 is just back in Norfolk after squadron quals, but transferred her munitions to CVN-76 GEORGE H.W. BUSH which is just starting work up for her first deployment.

We do not have any options at all to project naval or marine power in the Med right now; be it rescue or dealing with the Iranian targets in the Med. None. The entire southern rim of the Med has been in an uproar for several weeks. It is not like a crisis here is a surprise. Our Navy is used to being on standby for such, and usually would have a force within a reasonable steaming distance leaning forward in case they were needed.

Someone had to order deployments to leave us in this situation. I do not think it was anyone in a Navy uniform. I am blaming the National Command Authority. Any bloodshed or hostages are on his head.

Subotai Bahadur

Posted by: Subotai Bahadur at February 23, 2011 07:31 PM (iZJDE)

610 The Rev. Wright-Libya story made the rounds on the web during the 2008 elections, but the MSM was in a coma then, as now. Trevor Loudon at New Zeal probably has stacks of material on the connection. But a simple bing search would probably turn up all sorts of material. What a freaking mess...

Posted by: aine at February 23, 2011 08:02 PM (OX0iu)

611 Obama condems the violence in LIBYA but nothibg about the BLACK PANTHERS and their intimadating voters

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at February 23, 2011 08:15 PM (vA9ld)

612 Maybe he wants to be leader of the caliphate? What else explains his strange behavior as reader of the 57 states.

Posted by: tarpon at February 23, 2011 10:56 PM (g0QB8)

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Posted by: NHLJersey at February 24, 2011 12:15 AM (+yYdw)

614 Why do we care if Libya splits into seven more homogeneous tribal regions? Guess you can look at like that, essentially Qadhafi has run Libya like a tribal area and he is the head chief. If we get out of the way the will just kill each other. So I suppose it is an option. All the oil is to the East, so if the lines in the map change the other regions will not have profits from the oil. Now you can say lets draw up a compromise and split the profits between regions. These people are Bedouins Qadhafi son is right. Libya is not Egypt(not really Arabs) , Tunisia(Berbers)... um not sure how to say it nicely but the LIbyians are not considered very bright. Probably better if they keep it one country.

Posted by: lions at February 24, 2011 05:06 AM (/vDzc)

615
Why do we care if Libya splits into seven more homogeneous tribal regions?


I guess we don't, except that Egypt has not much oil or gas, and Libya has much of both. If Libya fragments, that oil and gas becomes a tempting target for...acquistion. Other than that, I got nothing.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at February 24, 2011 05:31 AM (1hM1d)

616

Impressive Ace.  You're one of a very few journalists or bloggers to get Qadhafi's name right.

I know.   I was once an Arabic linguist in the military.  I know exactly what those squiggles mean and how they should be rendered in English.  And Mu'amar's squiggles is most properly rendered as Qadhafi.

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