December 12, 2011
— Ace That'll work.
Video below. Obama says "We have asked for it back [emphasis actually in the original; he stresses that word].... We'll see how the Iranians respond."
“No one returns the symbol of aggression to the party that sought secret and vital intelligence related to the national security of a country,” Salami said.
That sounds different in the original Persian, though.
Reportedly, Obama was presented with three plans to recover and/or (more likely) destroy the drone, but he rejected them all.
Because he felt this could be "perceived" as an act of war. Um, it's our property. It landed, I'm guessing, in open space (odds are -- the world is mostly open space).
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Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at December 12, 2011 11:16 AM (DjKAG)
Not as badly as he does, but then, he IS a Stuttering Clusterf*** of a Miserable Failure, after all.
Posted by: DarkLord© for Prez! at December 12, 2011 11:16 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at December 12, 2011 11:17 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 12, 2011 11:18 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: kathysaysso at December 12, 2011 11:18 AM (ZtwUX)
Posted by: mpfs at December 12, 2011 11:18 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: kbdabear at December 12, 2011 11:18 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Barry O at December 12, 2011 11:18 AM (4Kl5M)
Posted by: Andy at December 12, 2011 11:19 AM (5Rurq)
Posted by: kathysaysso at December 12, 2011 11:19 AM (ZtwUX)
I'm demoralized and embarassed to be an American today.
On the other hand, I am continually amazed at the ingenious new ways that Obama finds, every single fucking day, to demoralize and embarass America.
Posted by: Truman North at December 12, 2011 11:19 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Pooter Hound at December 12, 2011 11:19 AM (ELPgk)
How 'bout "Come on guys, gimme back my toy airplane. Please? If you don't, I'll get into some real trouble."
Posted by: CUS at December 12, 2011 11:20 AM (84pE9)
Posted by: EC at December 12, 2011 11:20 AM (GQ8sn)
Using that logic, Iran supplying advanced IEDs to the insurgency in Iraq was an act of war.
Posted by: BUTCH at December 12, 2011 11:20 AM (0APJ3)
Watch this. I can sum up Obama's 60 Minutes interview in one sentence:
Obama: I'm not God...but I'm the next best thing.
Posted by: soothsayer at December 12, 2011 11:21 AM (sqkOB)
So, what is the opposite of the "Gutsy Call" meme that was endlessly pushed by the MFM when Obama personally killed bin Ladin? It has to be something that makes Obama look good while acknowledging that his balls are clearly in Michelle's purse on this issue.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 12, 2011 11:22 AM (wMsKw)
Obama, the Scut Farkus of bullies.
Posted by: mpfs at December 12, 2011 11:22 AM (iYbLN)
This whole RQ-170 mess is mind-fucking to me. I've heard around my time at SAIS that the low-observable project proceeding the Tier-II+/III- split was divided in the late-1990s because they wanted a better mapping between the system and the air defense capability of the nation being observed. At that time they were looking at protocols for F-117A bombing of a downed wreckage. These options should have been ready to go.
This just exemplifies the apologetic and weak leadership and foreign policy of Barack Obama.
Stop fucking apologizing, you can almost hear him -- "Well, it did land on their ground by mistake..."
Posted by: Uriah Heep at December 12, 2011 11:23 AM (447Af)
And Beck wants to give us another four of this muttering dangerous fuck.
Fantastic.
Posted by: laceyunderalls wears a Team Breitbart shirt at December 12, 2011 11:23 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 12, 2011 11:24 AM (FCGsy)
I just watched that again for the 11ty7th time last night on VHS.
Posted by: EC at December 12, 2011 11:24 AM (GQ8sn)
It is still his MO of voting present. He can still say 'hey, I tried'.
Posted by: CUS at December 12, 2011 11:24 AM (84pE9)
MAAAAAAHHHHHH !!!! Iran won't gimme back my plane, it's not FAIR !!!!!
Posted by: King Barry the Grownup at December 12, 2011 11:24 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Roy at December 12, 2011 11:25 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2011 11:25 AM (YdQQY)
Well, I could perceive Obama's comments and actions as evidence that he's been huffing glue.
And Beck wants to give us another four of this muttering dangerous fuck.
To be fair, Beck succeeded in his main goal, which was to get us to talk about Beck. I'm fairly certain everything else is secondary to that for him.
Posted by: alexthechick at December 12, 2011 11:26 AM (VtjlW)
But you have to ask me NICELY
You see Barry, I don't mind the bullets and the blood, but what I want is for you to stand there in that faggoty white golf shirt and show me some fuckin' COURTESY
You gotta ask me nicely!
Posted by: Col Nathan Jessup at December 12, 2011 11:27 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at December 12, 2011 11:27 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Little Barry Jr. at December 12, 2011 11:27 AM (eVoe9)
I have lol'd so many times today on this damn website my boss keeps giving me the eye. You know that look, guys. Quit being so damn funny.
Posted by: laceyunderalls wears a Team Breitbart shirt at December 12, 2011 11:27 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: joeindc44 - the one true conservative at December 12, 2011 11:28 AM (QxSug)
Posted by: nevergiveup at December 12, 2011 11:28 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Waygu Barry at December 12, 2011 11:28 AM (u/RSM)
iowahawkblog Breaking: President orders Navy SEALs to Hallmark store to locate perfect "Love to Have My Drone Back" card
Posted by: laceyunderalls wears a Team Breitbart shirt at December 12, 2011 11:28 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at December 12, 2011 11:28 AM (AZGON)
Is it as long as it takes to task two Tomahawks? What about 18 holes at Andrews?
Posted by: Uriah Heep at December 12, 2011 11:29 AM (447Af)
Posted by: Joffen at December 12, 2011 11:29 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at December 12, 2011 11:29 AM (UU0OF)
The smartest thing Iran could do would be to actually send it back.
Thus increasing the likelihood of the reelection of the Iran-friendliest US President they'll ever get.
Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at December 12, 2011 11:29 AM (SCcgT)
Posted by: kbdabear at December 12, 2011 11:29 AM (Y+DPZ)
Thanks.
P.S. You are the bestest CinC we've had in years!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 12, 2011 11:30 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at December 12, 2011 11:30 AM (AZGON)
Fantastic.
If the Beck camp and the Breitbart camp will not learn to get along, we will lose.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at December 12, 2011 11:30 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 12, 2011 11:30 AM (8y9MW)
I presume that it did not get lost and wander in Iran. So how many overflights do you think we're doing these days?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at December 12, 2011 11:30 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Joffen at December 12, 2011 11:30 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: chillin the most for Perry at December 12, 2011 11:31 AM (6IV8T)
Posted by: nevergiveup at December 12, 2011 11:31 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Second Look at Bob Dole Committee at December 12, 2011 11:31 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: willow at December 12, 2011 11:31 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at December 12, 2011 11:31 AM (AZGON)
on can hope
at least its remake might fail.
Posted by: willow at December 12, 2011 11:32 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: cicerokid at December 12, 2011 11:32 AM (FP6bs)
What about 18 holes at Andrews?
With President 3 Putt? Far less time than 18 holes.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 12, 2011 11:32 AM (8y9MW)
By the way.
Iran claims that they've cracked all the technological secrets that the drone possesses. Obviously that is a bit of hyperbole, but there are probably dozens of Russian and Chinese engineers looking over the drone as we type, analyzing the component design and looking to incorporate the RQ-130's features into their own surveillance aircraft.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 12, 2011 11:33 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at December 12, 2011 11:33 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at December 12, 2011 11:33 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: ace at December 12, 2011 11:33 AM (nj1bB)
Those towel-headed idiots couldn't reverse engineer an I-Pod.
Posted by: Clarence at December 12, 2011 11:33 AM (z0HdK)
Posted by: Countrysquire for Perry at December 12, 2011 11:33 AM (1hLHC)
rented fingers.
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at December 12, 2011 03:31 PM (AZGON)
No, hes the type who would, to proove how tough he is, tell someone ELSE to hold their hand over the flame... as long as he did not have to watch, and had plausible deniability... and maybe a Czar to actualy do the telling...
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 12, 2011 11:33 AM (NtXW4)
Posted by: nickless at December 12, 2011 11:34 AM (q5F99)
Posted by: laceyunderalls wears a Team Breitbart shirt at December 12, 2011 11:34 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at December 12, 2011 11:34 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Joffen at December 12, 2011 11:35 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 12, 2011 11:35 AM (XE2Oo)
i was so uninformed!
Posted by: willow at December 12, 2011 11:35 AM (h+qn8)
Thanks. I just ate a cupcake and it now wants to eject.
Posted by: CUS at December 12, 2011 11:35 AM (84pE9)
Q: How dickless do you have to be to stand up there and tell us you asked for it back, like that was actually taking action?
A: Pretty much 100% dickless.
Posted by: sherlock at December 12, 2011 11:36 AM (8ra42)
Posted by: NC Ref at December 12, 2011 11:36 AM (WCQp7)
Posted by: toby928© at December 12, 2011 11:36 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Clarence at December 12, 2011 03:33 PM (z0HdK)
The Iranians probably can't, but the Russians and Chinese can.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 12, 2011 11:36 AM (9hSKh)
I tried this ploy with Monica, Linda Tripp and the Blue Dress.
It didn't work out quite the way I had planned.
Posted by: Bill Clinton at December 12, 2011 11:36 AM (G649a)
I will say it does give us the opportunity to do IED drones. Ooops you captured another one of our splooody drones, sorry about your sciency guys going to meet allah.
Posted by: that nicholas12345 guy at December 12, 2011 11:37 AM (JYheX)
Posted by: Joffen at December 12, 2011 11:37 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: Countrysquire for Perry at December 12, 2011 11:37 AM (1hLHC)
Which, he points out, makes the whole "We won't go in because they might view it as an act of war" angle moot.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 12, 2011 11:37 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Mitt Rombley at December 12, 2011 11:38 AM (evdj2)
I do believe he is a bumbling fool, I also believe he wants America to fail and wants Islam to succeed.
Posted by: Fire with Fire at December 12, 2011 11:38 AM (lcwvr)
Posted by: Romberg at December 12, 2011 11:38 AM (Xufvv)
Posted by: Clarence at December 12, 2011 11:38 AM (z0HdK)
Posted by: Roy at December 12, 2011 11:38 AM (VndSC)
Clarence,
Get back under the stairs. Now.
Posted by: soothsayer at December 12, 2011 03:35 PM (sqkOB)
Just remember Clarence was the inspiration for Empire of Jeff's rant about breeding a master race of white conservatives like his dick was a pez dispenser or however it goes.
Posted by: buzzion at December 12, 2011 11:39 AM (GULKT)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at December 12, 2011 11:39 AM (kqGWM)
That's hilarious. Even better would be the response (from someone on the scene) "No. It looks like there's about 30 of you (being generous). I think we can handle it."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 12, 2011 11:39 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 12, 2011 11:40 AM (9hSKh)
Betch my line is bigger!
Posted by: Paris Hilton at December 12, 2011 11:40 AM (84pE9)
Posted by: Countrysquire for Perry at December 12, 2011 03:37 PM (1hLHC)
Who is "us", you palefaced, wad-jerking, basement-dwelling, blow-up-doll-humping, weed-smoking, rage-inducing bag of fail?
Posted by: Tonto, in a mood at December 12, 2011 11:43 AM (RD7QR)
I have a thought.
Is there any conceivable chance that Obama pulling out of Iraq will cause Iran to fill the void? Then.... we can attack Iran with "just" cause?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 12, 2011 11:43 AM (LyOUH)
Posted by: nevergiveup at December 12, 2011 11:45 AM (i6RpT)
Under whose Presidency? BHO? Yeah, right.
Maybe under a Republican- maybe. But the nation is still war-weary, and that would be a pretty tough sell right now.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 12, 2011 11:45 AM (8y9MW)
Bumpkis, wasn't it?
Posted by: toby928© at December 12, 2011 11:46 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: THE CAPS LOCK BUTTON at December 12, 2011 11:46 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Barely Scrotero at December 12, 2011 11:46 AM (4136b)
The Western, Secularist, Capitalist model is a pure winner.
fuck the entire Middle East - leave those assholes in the sand.
Posted by: Clarence at December 12, 2011 11:47 AM (z0HdK)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at December 12, 2011 11:47 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Barely Scrotero and Bill at December 12, 2011 03:46 PM (4136b)
Posted by: willow at December 12, 2011 11:48 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: B. Hussein Obama at December 12, 2011 11:48 AM (AZGON)
Clinton had a window of opportunity to lay down some JDAM's before any civilians or Serb militia got to the wreckage, but he passed on it. Fast forward a decade or two, and the Chinese have their brand new stealth fighter.
Posted by: EC at December 12, 2011 11:48 AM (GQ8sn)
Salami said.
I didn't know salami was sentient. I apologize for all the sandwiches I made out of you.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2011 11:48 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: willow at December 12, 2011 11:48 AM (h+qn8)
A few things:
1) Haven't we been kinda in a warmish state of unpleasantness with Iran since 1979 anyway?
2) Didn't Barely O say while campaigning in 2008 that Iran was just a little country, nothing to be afraid of?
3) Barely O should also have asked them again if they would please stop making those nuclear bomb thingies, too. When it's convenient for them, that is.
Posted by: Marmo at December 12, 2011 11:49 AM (InrkQ)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 12, 2011 11:49 AM (i0App)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at December 12, 2011 11:49 AM (URxdy)
I offered to trade them an Official Red Ryder Carbine-Action Two-Hundred-Shot Range Model Air Rifle with a compass in the stock but they wouldn't go for it.
Posted by: Prez Ostupid at December 12, 2011 11:50 AM (JYheX)
Remember, according to Democrats the Statute of Limitations on "being at war" with someone runs out way before 30 years. Somewhere on the order of (based on their arguments regarding Iraq) 10. On the outside.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 12, 2011 11:50 AM (8y9MW)
Bumpkis, wasn't it?
Clinton had a chance to off OBL. The strike aircraft were on the carrier ready to be catapulted, all they needed was a 'go' from Mr Bill. He had to wait untio he finished his round of golf.
By then, it was too late. Kinda what SCOAMF was hoping would happen in the missing 16 hours it took him to 'sleep on it'.
Posted by: Paris Hilton at December 12, 2011 11:50 AM (84pE9)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 12, 2011 03:49 PM (i0App)
You misunderstand, the Iranians liked them so much they wanted the embassy staff to stay longer. The blindfolds were just to keep them warm.
Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at December 12, 2011 11:51 AM (RD7QR)
I would think having the drone in Iran in the first place might have been ....?
Posted by: willow at December 12, 2011 11:51 AM (h+qn8)
I offered to trade them an Official Red Ryder Carbine-Action Two-Hundred-Shot Range Model Air Rifle with a compass in the stock but they wouldn't go for it.
Posted by: Prez Ostupid at December 12, 2011 03:50 PM (JYheX)
Should have gone with the iPod preloaded with his speeches. That wins 'em over every time.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2011 11:51 AM (v+QvA)
Posted by: Barely Scrotero at December 12, 2011 11:52 AM (4136b)
Posted by: willow at December 12, 2011 11:52 AM (h+qn8)
Should have gone with the iPod preloaded with his speeches. That wins 'em over every time.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2011 03:51 PM (v+QvA)
Maybe our codes won't work on their DVD players.
Posted by: robtr at December 12, 2011 11:52 AM (MtwBb)
Posted by: willow at December 12, 2011 11:53 AM (h+qn8)
Too steep. I think we should offer Joe Biden, which is a better trade for intelligence values.
Posted by: jwb7605 at December 12, 2011 11:53 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: Greg at December 12, 2011 11:54 AM (6Mfih)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at December 12, 2011 11:54 AM (71LDo)
Posted by: B. Hussein Obama at December 12, 2011 11:54 AM (AZGON)
Dinnerjackoffdingdon - " Get the f*uck of my lawn!"
Obama - "Oh, ok."
Posted by: jwm at December 12, 2011 11:56 AM (0oYHO)
Here's my plan:
Build a bunch of flying bombs that look like drones.
Fly them over Iran wheres they are downed.
Wait until the get trucked to a military base.
Detonate.
Lolz!
Posted by: Dick Cheney's not-as-evil Twin. at December 12, 2011 11:57 AM (TDzmd)
See, this is one of the things that make me so made at our political establishment. Iran is not a great power. Obama had that right when he said that Iran is a little country. Their tyranny exists because we let it. Iran can't even refine enough gasoline to run their cars. They exist by our sufferance, and I think we have suffered enough thank you very much.
Knock out all their power plants, declare a blockade, seize their oil and wealth everywhere within out reach, air drop weapons into the countryside for anyone who wants to make trouble.
We need not every set a boot on their dirt to reduce them to irrelevancy.
They've given plenty enough casus belli to do any and all of these.
Posted by: toby928© at December 12, 2011 11:57 AM (GTbGH)
I would think that in most cases (probably including this one) you should really make sure you blow the thing up. The argument that it would be an act of war is beyond inane. Just flying the thing within their borders was already an act of war.
On the bright side, the hard part of making stealthy aircraft is the producibility. Even if you know exactly where every single molecule is in it's design, the question becomes "Can you make it?" For Iran (and maybe every other country), the answer is almost certainly "no".
And once you get past "Can you make it?" you move onto the even bigger challenge: "Can you make it cheaply enough for it to be worth it?"
Posted by: Optimizer at December 12, 2011 11:58 AM (As94z)
Posted by: Wall-E at December 12, 2011 12:00 PM (48wze)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at December 12, 2011 12:03 PM (ijjAe)
Posted by: HeftyJo at December 12, 2011 12:09 PM (1oE9r)
But, just to be safe, we should probably not try to get our toy back, 'cause we don't want to get them mad or anything.
Yeah, that's right. I'm tuff. If you don't think so, go ask Osama bin Laden how tuff I am!
Posted by: L'il Barry at December 12, 2011 12:10 PM (gCa4h)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at December 12, 2011 12:10 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: Barrack Obama at December 12, 2011 12:11 PM (H50jQ)
Posted by: West at December 12, 2011 12:11 PM (1Rgee)
Posted by: An Observation at December 12, 2011 12:12 PM (ylhEn)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 12, 2011 12:12 PM (sHY5w)
Me too, TrumanNorth. Me too.
On the other hand, I am continually amazed at the ingenious new ways that Obama finds, every single fucking day, to demoralize and embarass America.
They know us too well. ....They know that this is what makes people turn off the news and go get busy with something to get their mind off of it, just to keep their sanity.
Posted by: wheatie.....aka ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at December 12, 2011 12:19 PM (HvKWW)
Posted by: Sheriff Joe Biden at December 12, 2011 12:21 PM (DrWcr)
Mullahs: No.
Obama: Why not?
Mullahs: Finders keepers losers weepers.
Obama: Oh, so you are referencing international law and dictated by the U.N. I am sorry for even bringing this up, America is a horrible country and I send you my sincere apologies.
Mullahs: Don't do it again.
Obama: I promise we won't.
Mullahs: And now, you will blow us.
Obama: Well of course I will!
Posted by: shibumi at December 12, 2011 12:21 PM (z63Tr)
Obama: Well of course I will!
Posted by: shibumi at December 12, 2011 04:21 PM (z63Tr)
I told you! I TOLD you!!
Posted by: Larry Sinclair at December 12, 2011 12:23 PM (DrWcr)
News flash: The "act of war" was committed already - thirty-two years ago.
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at December 12, 2011 12:23 PM (1rHeD)
Too bad he didn't ask for it back in Klingon. Roughly translated, it works out as: I'll rip your throat out, kill your women, and eat your children. And then I'm coming for my drone.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at December 12, 2011 12:24 PM (1hM1d)
Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2011 12:29 PM (7WJOC)
Posted by: Prindle at December 12, 2011 12:31 PM (2Ynt1)
Posted by: Barry the Buckstop at December 12, 2011 12:46 PM (KOQBP)
Posted by: Buffalobob at December 12, 2011 12:56 PM (GwH6h)
Posted by: We the People of the United States of America at December 12, 2011 12:59 PM (l0mYf)
The next US president has the heavy handed task of saving America from the Democrats. Reversing what the Democrats and Obama have done to the economy will take many generations to undo.Foreign policy is further down the list. I would lock all the little SOBs into a cage,toss in a loaded gun, and hope the smartest and most reasonable person comes out alive.
Posted by: befuddled at December 12, 2011 01:03 PM (xJU23)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at December 12, 2011 04:24 PM (1hM1d)
LOL!
Posted by: Tammy al' Thor, causing talk and suspicion... at December 12, 2011 01:04 PM (SsG4J)
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Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 12, 2011 03:06 PM (9eDbm)
Take a look at this footage - Jennifer is talking about the source - and they use the term "tethered"?
Thanks for the video. Jen Griffin hits exactly on the point: after an accident like this you need to start thinking in terms of minimax: minimize the maximum possible loss.
Right now, the loss is huge as Jen said. They have the physical computers, sensor packages, I/O and data-link hardware -- which means they (ie. Russia, China) have unlimited time to work at gaining access to the systems via side-channel attacks around our encryption and other security protocols. All systems have flaws, they are strong head-on, but given time and perseverence a team will discover flaws and go around. The key is not giving them the opportunity.
They have the airframe, they can study everything and the design choices down to why they used the RADAR screen over the intake verse an S-curve baffle as on the B2. What frequencies the screen's openings and materials are optimized to deflect, etc. Ugh...
A special ops raid removes everything, but there is large risk if our men die or are captured. The optimal at this point is to retask a a Tomahawk or CALCM raid and destroy the airframe; they will get material samples, but it's a risk free strategy. The fact that Obama passed on this demonstrates, IMHO, just how much of an apologist fuck-up he is.
I sincerely hope a Romney or Perry talks about this at the up coming debate. Mitt entitled his book, No Apology. Knock that fucker out.
Posted by: Uriah Heep at December 12, 2011 04:39 PM (447Af)
Thanks for the video. Jen Griffin hits exactly on the point: after an accident like this you need to start thinking in terms of minimax: minimize the maximum possible loss.
Right now, the loss is huge as Jen said. They have the physical computers, sensor packages, I/O and data-link hardware -- which means they (ie. Russia, China) have unlimited time to work at gaining access to the systems via side-channel attacks around our encryption and other security protocols. All systems have flaws, they are strong head-on, but given time and perseverence a team will discover flaws and go around. The key is not giving them the opportunity.
They have the airframe, they can study everything and the design choices down to why they used the RADAR screen over the intake verse an S-curve baffle as on the B2. What frequencies the screen's openings and materials are optimized to deflect, etc. Ugh...
A special ops raid removes everything, but there is large risk if our men die or are captured. The optimal at this point is to retask a a Tomahawk or CALCM raid and destroy the airframe; they will get material samples, but it's a risk free strategy. The fact that Obama passed on this demonstrates, IMHO, just how much of an apologist fuck-up he is.
I sincerely hope a Romney or Perry talks about this at the up coming debate. Mitt entitled his book, No Apology. Knock that fucker out.
Posted by: Uriah Heep at December 12, 2011 04:40 PM (447Af)
The real significance of the lost drone is that the US is serious about reconnoitering Iran in detail, probably to find its nuclear installations and defenses. The decision to violate Iranian territory and possibly lose a piece of top secret hardware is a Very Big Decision. The USA does not make such decisions casually. The President has to sign off on that.
It's a sign that the US is seriously considering war against Iran.
It's naive of Obama to ask for our drone back. You didn't see Eisenhower asking for Francis Gary Power's U-2 back from the Soviets. OF COURSE they're gonna keep it. Castro didn't give back Major Rudolf Anderson's U-2 when it was shot down during the Cuban Missile Crisis. At the very least, the drone will be displayed in a propaganda museum. More likely, it will be traded to Russia and China for much needed technical support for their atom bomb program.
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It cannot be said enough. Obama is a SCOAMF.
And a pussy too.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2011 11:15 AM (sbV1u)