June 22, 2011
— Ace Allah finds a little silver lining here for Obama-- the public is getting even more patient, not less, when it comes to expecting positive results on the economy in Obama's first term. (This gets reported as "the first two years" for some reason; I have mentioned it to Allah, and he says the quirk in wording is in the poll itself.)
I suppose.
I'd be curious to know if that question was asked about previous presidents, like, say Bush. What I'm suggesting is that the question immediately, by design, asks people to re-evaluate whether or not they feel they have the right to ask for results, or are just being crankypants.
The sort of "are you being a little bitch or what?" nature of the question may mean that the re-elect figure is closer to right whereas these numbers are people just saying, "oh, of course, it's totally unfair of me to expect this guy to perform as he promised, my bad."
But either way: The Republican Party has to begin assigning blame here. Constantly. Effectively. Almost robotically.
To the extent the public gives Obama a pass -- which could result in his reelection -- it's because his opposition isn't hammering him on his own culpability here.
If the opposition permits the President to say "It's not my fault, these things just happen," then the public will believe that, and Obama will be reelected.
A.B.A.B.
A-- Always
B--Be
A--Assigning
B-Blame
Always be assigning blame. Always be assigning blame.
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Posted by: AE at June 22, 2011 03:22 PM (YYjeh)
Posted by: flapjackmaka at June 22, 2011 03:22 PM (gElkm)
Posted by: Comrade Godwin's law at June 22, 2011 03:24 PM (KOAYS)
A.B.A.B.
A-- Always
B--Be
A--Assigning
B-Blame
Always be assigning blame. Always be assigning blame.Hahahahaha. That's funny.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 22, 2011 03:25 PM (QgI7g)
Posted by: joeindc44 at June 22, 2011 03:26 PM (QxSug)
"You're not a racist, are you?"
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 22, 2011 03:26 PM (0vDuM)
More patient... give me a break.
Every time people look at these polls, they say things like "What is the economy is recovering? What if ______?" trying to talk themselves into a scenario where the media spin is true.
Occam's Razor.
The media is lying to protect their God King. The polls are skewed to keep the media spin alive. The economy will stay crappy. Voters are going to still be cranky. Obama loses to Generic Republican in a landslide.
Anything else is a low probability scenario.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 22, 2011 03:28 PM (cSkZ5)
Posted by: mike at June 22, 2011 03:29 PM (KsI1l)
Posted by: SFGoth at June 22, 2011 03:29 PM (dZ756)
Posted by: David Mamet at June 22, 2011 03:30 PM (SwkdU)
Posted by: joeindc44 at June 22, 2011 03:31 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: t-bird at June 22, 2011 03:31 PM (2EEmX)
Posted by: joeindc44 at June 22, 2011 03:31 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Jon Huntsman, Smart Guy at June 22, 2011 03:33 PM (wOaLi)
The Republican Party has to begin assigning blame here. Constantly. Effectively. Almost robotically.
As they say on Sundays, this is the key to the game.
We must connect Obama the man to Obama's failed policies. For some odd reason there exists a disconnect between Obama and his fuckups.
Posted by: leftover soothsayers at June 22, 2011 03:33 PM (QuTMi)
Was Weiner a weak lead? Do you think these people are coming in here to get out of the rain? They are begging you to give you their vote. Are you man enough to take it?
Posted by: Alec Baldwin, RNC chair at June 22, 2011 03:33 PM (SwkdU)
Posted by: Donna at June 22, 2011 03:33 PM (bdE9c)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 22, 2011 07:26 PM (0vDuM)
I was just thinking about this and had a wonderful revelation.
GOP Congressional candidates will still be able to campaign against Pelosi.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 22, 2011 03:34 PM (73tyQ)
Anyone foolish enough to be patient with Kamikaze Precedent Zero will deserve to live with the resulting cascading disaster.
Posted by: ontherocks at June 22, 2011 03:34 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Jollyroger at June 22, 2011 03:35 PM (VjNxi)
Posted by: The Captain of the Titanic at June 22, 2011 03:36 PM (2EEmX)
Posted by: Donna at June 22, 2011 03:36 PM (bdE9c)
Posted by: joeindc44 at June 22, 2011 03:36 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Blake from downtown at June 22, 2011 03:36 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Barky O'Jugears, Not So Good Wiith The Math at June 22, 2011 03:38 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: guy who worked for Alec Baldwin in real life at June 22, 2011 03:38 PM (BARAe)
Posted by: Ricky Roma Christie at June 22, 2011 03:39 PM (so1xa)
Once Obama loses a relatively few individuals who others look to as "trend setters" or who tend to have the most influence on others, the entire thing collapses. Then it no longer becomes "cool" to be an Obama fan.
It all happens fairly quickly, too. His support can fall completely off the cliff in a period of only a month. Judging from the size of he drop in the Gallup poll yesterday, we might be seeing the start of that.
A lot of data is mined searching for those people. You might say that is one of the purposes of Facebook. Search those people out and begin to influence them. That is why when you play something like Farmville or accept a "heart" from someone, the application wants to access your friends list. It is very easy to identify who the key people. Influence those few hundred key people, and you can influence millions.
Harvesting people's friends lists is one of the primary revenue streams for Facebook. Marketing companies kill for that kind of information.
Posted by: crosspatch at June 22, 2011 03:40 PM (ZbLJZ)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 22, 2011 03:40 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: Blake from downtown at June 22, 2011 03:40 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Craig Huey (the guy running against Janice Hahn) at June 22, 2011 03:40 PM (2p0e3)
I thought we were being too hard on Huntsman. But the more I learn about him and the more I hear him, the more I do not want him around.
Posted by: leftover soothsayers at June 22, 2011 03:41 PM (ltdkg)
"You can't expect poor Obama to fix in two years what Booooosh took eight to destroy!"
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 22, 2011 03:41 PM (0vDuM)
I see nothing in his job performance to recommend a contract extension. This is an analogy that can work with the average ordinary non-political-obsessed voter.
Posted by: mama winger at June 22, 2011 03:41 PM (R9bQ9)
Posted by: sifty at June 22, 2011 03:42 PM (BARAe)
Posted by: rplat at June 22, 2011 03:42 PM (4vq8i)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at June 22, 2011 03:43 PM (VidfH)
Posted by: Blake from downtown at June 22, 2011 03:43 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: joeindc44 at June 22, 2011 03:43 PM (QxSug)
poor crosspatch is still in the barrel?
I've always pretty much agreed with all his previous comments, too.
Posted by: leftover soothsayers at June 22, 2011 03:43 PM (QuTMi)
Posted by: America's collective asshole, thanks to idiot voters at June 22, 2011 03:43 PM (B60j2)
Posted by: crosspatch at June 22, 2011 07:40 PM
These are the new leads. These are the Facebook leads. And to you they're gold, and you don't get them. Why? Because to give them to you would be throwing them away. They're for blamers.
Posted by: Blake from Downtown at June 22, 2011 03:44 PM (so1xa)
Posted by: ontherocks at June 22, 2011 03:45 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Rodent Anxiety Front at June 22, 2011 03:45 PM (lgw0N)
Posted by: The Chicken at June 22, 2011 03:45 PM (AZGON)
>>Always be assigning blame. Always be assigning blame.
Ace is the one who swears too much in the comments.
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 22, 2011 03:45 PM (XdlcF)
RCP Average Direction of the Country
Right Track 29.5% / Wrong track 63.7%
The results of Barry's policies -34.2 spread
Toast, and yes, I'm going to be that guy.
Posted by: toby928™ at June 22, 2011 03:46 PM (GTbGH)
What I don't understand is how the Democrats and Obama used TARP against McCain and the Republicans in 2008, but now use it to take credit for "pulling the economy from the brink" of depression.
That's some damn good political jujitsu.
Posted by: leftover soothsayers at June 22, 2011 03:46 PM (ibo8U)
Posted by: Rodent Anxiety Front at June 22, 2011 07:45 PM (lgw0N)
Oh, sure. He won't be the nominee of the Republican party...
Posted by: John Anderson (c. 1980) at June 22, 2011 03:46 PM (73tyQ)
His numbers are tanking only because the retards who voted for Obama haven't figured out who to call "The Next George Bush" yet.
Posted by: Damiano at June 22, 2011 03:47 PM (3nrx7)
Our family gave Hairy Reed $25K, but this is no indication we're for Senator Reed or the progressive agenda. We just like Hairy.
Posted by: John Huntsman, Sr. at June 22, 2011 03:48 PM (cwFVA)
Posted by: Blake from downtown at June 22, 2011 03:48 PM (AZGON)
Americans have a short atten
Hey, celebrity nipple sighting!
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 22, 2011 03:48 PM (0vDuM)
That's some damn good political jujitsu.
Posted by: leftover soothsayers at June 22, 2011 07:46 PM
I call it "Pretzel Logic"
Posted by: Steeley Dan at June 22, 2011 03:48 PM (ZUWaD)
and we need to keep mentioning the Misery Index
Misery. Misery. Misery. Obama. Obama. Obama.
Obama is all about sustainability and the new green economy. The only thing sustainable about Obama is high unemployment, high gas prices, and anemic GDP growth expansion.
Posted by: leftover soothsayers at June 22, 2011 03:49 PM (4Ejxg)
@14: "Obama loses to Generic Republican in a landslide."
Maybe so, but he isn't running against Generic Republican. He's running against To Be Chosen From The Cavalcade Of Lame. And the GOP are past masters at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
Posted by: Alexander Dane as Dr. Lazarus at June 22, 2011 03:50 PM (xy9wk)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 22, 2011 07:41 PM (0vDuM)
Odumdum couldn't fix a picture of his kids to the goddamm refrigerator door if you gave him 10 years and a bucket of rubber cement.
Posted by: ontherocks at June 22, 2011 03:50 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: joeindc44 at June 22, 2011 03:50 PM (QxSug)
Well, all you complaining republican's need to understand I never got a Lewinsky in the Oral Orifice.
Posted by: Barky Obama, Gods Gift to America at June 22, 2011 03:50 PM (cwFVA)
He's the Manchurianest!
He's Manchurifico!
Just log into votesplit/fuckrepubs2012.com to find out more!
Posted by: totally legit candidacy, inc. at June 22, 2011 03:51 PM (BARAe)
Posted by: ace at June 22, 2011 03:51 PM (nj1bB)
After Novemeber 5th, 2008 TARP was awesome and bailouts were the best thing since air conditioning.
Posted by: leftover soothsayers at June 22, 2011 03:52 PM (/OSN/)
Or how they all voted for the Patriot Act, then used it to paint Bush as a threat to civil liberties.
Democrats are closers.
Posted by: sandy burger at June 22, 2011 03:52 PM (XyoGP)
Nothing President Obama has said or done is his fault. The residual effect of Bush is what drives Congress and this economy.
Posted by: Jay Carney, White House Anal Orator at June 22, 2011 03:53 PM (cwFVA)
Posted by: twiceblessedmom at June 22, 2011 03:53 PM (HjxoE)
Posted by: B. Hussein Obama at June 22, 2011 03:54 PM (AZGON)
Bush will be the new vandal.
Posted by: sifty at June 22, 2011 03:54 PM (BARAe)
- Imagine the surge in demand for golf caddies once he no longer pretends to be working occasionally.
- Demand for new golf balls to replace lost ones will exponentially skyrocket
- Surge in demand for any golf club that promises to improve your swing and reduce your score
Posted by: Damiano at June 22, 2011 03:54 PM (3nrx7)
High speed rail is the answer to mass transportation in the future. Deniers of HSR are the same people who deny Global Baloney. Shame on you.
Posted by: Joe Biden at June 22, 2011 03:54 PM (cwFVA)
Posted by: Barack's inner monologue at June 22, 2011 03:55 PM (B60j2)
Dear Mr. Huntsman
Please note this Cease and Desist order. You may no longer use our Copyrighted name of the Huntsman, who all know was Weapon XII of the Weapon X program.
We also note your apparent use of the SuperHuman power of Nanite based Human control which you seem to be using on the MSM and Pundits which we also invented during the Weapon X Program.
Cordialy;
Legal Team, SHIELD
Posted by: Justice Dept. Legal Team at June 22, 2011 03:56 PM (NtXW4)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 22, 2011 03:56 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: Me-Biden at June 22, 2011 07:53 PM (ZUWaD)
My dad told me to be a Jesuit monk warrior assassin, but no, I had to become an engineer. I'm a retard.
Posted by: Rodent Anxiety Front at June 22, 2011 03:56 PM (lgw0N)
Posted by: Blake at June 22, 2011 03:57 PM (XyoGP)
yeah, that's right, too
And they voted to extend the so-called Bush tax cuts. NOW they're screaming for ta hikes and saying the Republicans are the party of tax cuts for millionaires!
Posted by: leftover soothsayers at June 22, 2011 03:57 PM (uHw7p)
So when you adjust for the goofy numbers, the medicare numbers fall within margin of error.
The other stuff is a bit too touchy feely, don't see where it is worth commenting on.
Oh, and obama sucks cock.
And the depression is Obama's fault.
And the deficit is obama's fault.
And the malaise is obama's fault.
This assclown sucks so bad, it's as if crosspatch's words became animate and took over our government.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast, resident poll internals troll. at June 22, 2011 03:57 PM (XyjRQ)
Posted by: Me-Biden at June 22, 2011 03:58 PM (ZUWaD)
Posted by: Be Good, Be Gone at June 22, 2011 03:58 PM (jEEpE)
But... but .. the leads are WEAK!
The leads are weak? YOU'RE WEAK. I've been in this White House two years.
You think this is abuse? You think this is abuse, you cocksucker? If you can't take this abuse, how are you gonna take the abuse you get when you're driving an ACORN van full of winos who just shit themselves to the polls?
I can go out there with the birth certificate you've got and make myself 270 electoral votes. Tonight! In two hours! Can you? CAN YOU?
ABAB - get mad you sons of bitches.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 22, 2011 03:58 PM (lGFXF)
funny how all of a sudden someguyisms are in vogue
he was right all along, though
gotta get tough with these shitbird Democrats or you'll lose
Posted by: leftover soothsayers at June 22, 2011 04:00 PM (qsz6h)
Posted by: Me-Biden at June 22, 2011 07:58 PM (ZUWaD)
They are all punctuation nazis.
Posted by: Rodent Anxiety Front at June 22, 2011 04:00 PM (lgw0N)
Posted by: Blake from downtown at June 22, 2011 04:00 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: jones at June 22, 2011 04:01 PM (uOEAO)
Posted by: Blake from downtown at June 22, 2011 04:03 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Blame at June 22, 2011 04:03 PM (aibIg)
@21: "I guess Great Depression 2.0 isn't enough for most voters."
People don't believe we're in one. There aren't breadlines and hoovervilles this time around, the gummint is doling out money, banks aren't foreclosing as fast, etc.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at June 22, 2011 04:03 PM (xy9wk)
Posted by: jones at June 22, 2011 08:01 PM
If Hilldebeast wants it, I recommend he stay away from Rock Creek Park...
Posted by: KZnextzone at June 22, 2011 04:04 PM (ZUWaD)
Half the unemployment.
One-third the gas prices.
One-quarter the debt.
Miss me yet, bitches?
Posted by: George W. Bush at June 22, 2011 04:04 PM (73tyQ)
Ahem.
Posted by: Jon Huntsman at June 22, 2011 04:05 PM (73tyQ)
I am so pleased the draw down isn't politically motivated, and Obama believes in his heart-of-hearts this is the perfect time to withdraw.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at June 22, 2011 04:05 PM (cwFVA)
Posted by: KZnextzone at June 22, 2011 04:07 PM (ZUWaD)
@41: "I wish you'd be more patient. We're going as fast as we can."
Oh, I say, Captain Smith...you know, if you opened the watertight doors, more pumps would have access to the water flooding in to the hull, so we could pump out more, faster. Save thousands of souls and a rather valuable bit of machinery, old bean.
Posted by: Bruce Ismay IS Prezidizzle Obizzle at June 22, 2011 04:08 PM (xy9wk)
Posted by: George W. Bush at June 22, 2011 08:04 PM (73tyQ)
Not really, you were the same sell-out Ivy Leaguer as your dad.
I miss Reagan. You are no Reagan.
Posted by: Rodent Anxiety Front at June 22, 2011 04:08 PM (lgw0N)
@80: "RCP Average Direction of the Country
Right Track 29.5% / Wrong track 63.7%"
Isn't the real takeaway from that poll that 30% of the country are either booger-eatin' morons, or actively want the destruction of the nation? It's a lot like the BBC poll where they trumpeted "84% of our muslim immigrants don't want to slaughter us!" Nice, but sorta missed the important part.
Posted by: Bruce Ismay IS Prezidizzle Obizzle at June 22, 2011 04:13 PM (xy9wk)
Posted by: Blake at June 22, 2011 04:13 PM (XaqaA)
I read stuff like this and it makes me yearn for poll tests. Maybe a little basic economics and civics.
Posted by: Facepalm at June 22, 2011 04:32 PM (u+8qs)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at June 22, 2011 07:43 PM (VidfH)
Same poll was taken here with the same result.
Posted by: Evil ATM out to take your job and your women. at June 22, 2011 07:47 PM (qjUnn)
Same here. No Preference Falsification in this house. I'm sensing a trend.
Posted by: S.J. Tilden at June 22, 2011 04:33 PM (u+8qs)
Posted by: t-bird at June 22, 2011 05:20 PM (2EEmX)
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