February 05, 2011
— Geoff Somebody take this President's hands off the wheel immediately. Please. He should never be allowed in a moving vehicle again. Hand the man his Slurpee and put him on his bicycle.
Here is President Barack Obama's thinking on creating a healthy business environment:
“If we make America the best place to do business, businesses should make their mark in America,” the president said. “They should set up shop here, and hire our workers, and pay decent wages, and invest in the future of this nation. That’s their obligation.”Got that? If he improves the business environment, then businesses must change their operations to settle their debt with him. I hate to give him ideas, but this is like saying: "I've upgraded the interstates, so now you have to drive on them, and pay for the upgrades."
Mr. President, first, the US should always have been the best place to do business. You are not giving them a treat - you are finally living up to your obligations. Second, business must do what is right for business. If the business environment you create helps them, then they have a higher likelihood of prospering and growing. But there's no such thing as an "obligation" that requires them to make decisions independent of the business pressures and opportunities they face. They won't operate under such an obligation because they can't - that path leads straight to insolvency.
Third, you can't demand gratitude or a sense of obligation from people when you used their own money to create these benefits. I know, I know, you've heard those words before, and they've never made any sense to you. Spending more is always your solution, because it uses that inexhaustible supply of magic money, limited only by the greed and insensitivity of GOP fatcats.
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But things are always worse than they at first appear with this administration. Look at what he wants to do to help business out:
The national economy, he said, depends on the government making upgrades in education and technology, as well as promoting — and in some cases, helping to advance — groundbreaking business proposals.So. We have this economic system called capitalism, see. It has some faults, but it's built entirely around incentivizing people to work hard and innovate. It's been the most wildly successful motivator for innovation in the world's history, and has been copied by countries worldwide.“Supporting businesses with this kind of 21st century infrastructure and cutting-edge innovation is our responsibility,” the president said. “Our government has an obligation to make sure that America is the best place on earth to do business — that we have the best schools, the best incentives to innovate and the best infrastructure.”
Mr. President, we don't have an incentive problem. We have regulation problems. We have tax problems. We have rising energy and commodity prices. We have an increasingly unfavorable global business environment. We have legislative uncertainties hanging over businesses' heads like the Sword of Damocles.
But we want to make money. We want to do business. We want to innovate so that we can make more money and do more business. We don't need more incentives - incentive is built into the American system and psyche.
And we particularly don't need a ridiculous self-defeating scheme whereby the government encourages innovation via incentives funded by taxation, which stifles innovation.
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Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at February 05, 2011 08:41 AM (fy8R6)
Leave businesses alone!!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 08:43 AM (UOM48)
Not to defend Chicago -- which is innately indefensible -- but it didn't "produce" Osama Obama.
It enabled him.
The Mohammedan Mouthpiece (ours, that is) was "produced" by shiftless lefty parents, a Communist "uncle," Indonesia, Islam and a worldwide band of crooks and traitors.
Chicago could be saved and rehabilitated. The same can't be said for the Traitor-in-Chief.
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 08:44 AM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: USA at February 05, 2011 08:45 AM (YZISw)
Its a devious set up where the complaints are funneled to attorneys ready to TAKE UP THEIR CAUSE. In other words, sue the shit out of poor unsuspecting employers.
No one can tell me that this asshole president doesn't want to destroy capitalism.
Posted by: bedlam at February 05, 2011 08:46 AM (zt0Lg)
This is so incredibly sad.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 05, 2011 08:46 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: Beaver Cleaver at February 05, 2011 08:46 AM (pRKLf)
Sorry, doesn't work that way.
Posted by: tarpon at February 05, 2011 08:47 AM (g0QB8)
Posted by: Lt. Obama at February 05, 2011 08:48 AM (FUozQ)
Posted by: garrett at February 05, 2011 08:49 AM (g11gl)
Posted by: Osama Obama at February 05, 2011 08:50 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Obama Thulsa Doom at February 05, 2011 08:50 AM (4Va0W)
Posted by: Jeff Immelt at February 05, 2011 08:51 AM (vdfwz)
Wow... did Jeff Imhelt vet this speech??? Is this the new tact...
Because once a Government starts talking "obligations", the will soon legislate a penalty for NOT meeting that "obligation".
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 05, 2011 08:51 AM (AdK6a)
And so incredibly predictable. Liberals have always viewed business as piggy banks that they should be able to raid at will.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 05, 2011 08:51 AM (C9Oua)
"So. We have this economic system called capitalism, see. It has some faults, but it's built entirely around incentivizing people to work hard and innovate."
Racist.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 05, 2011 08:52 AM (A/oSU)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 05, 2011 08:52 AM (eOXTH)
Posted by: King Barry I at February 05, 2011 08:52 AM (vdfwz)
Posted by: ss396 at February 05, 2011 08:53 AM (IfigT)
Posted by: Godzilla at February 05, 2011 08:53 AM (SJ6/3)
Posted by: Obama Longshanks at February 05, 2011 08:54 AM (4Va0W)
Invest in rails dudes and dudettes. And, in small vessel lines that will shuttle goods to and from the Gulf Coast ports.
They will not be bringing the plants back here.
Thanks, Norma Rae.
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 08:54 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: In before the troll at February 05, 2011 08:54 AM (vdfwz)
I am so sick of these people.
Posted by: navybrat at February 05, 2011 08:55 AM (IZvfe)
Posted by: Wesley Mouch at February 05, 2011 08:56 AM (nsRBU)
Another time, another place, another despot, persons such as the CEOs of the businesses that do not comply with the edict "It is your obligation to hire" would be rounded up and dealt with, terminally.
Are we so blind that we cannot see where the Obama regime is leading us?
G.d help us.
Posted by: Kryppic at February 05, 2011 08:57 AM (m3buo)
And I am getting thinner by the day.
Posted by: The Thread at February 05, 2011 08:57 AM (xdHzq)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 05, 2011 12:51 PM (C9Oua)
Yes. What I find really sad, though, is that people still treat Obama as if he even had half a brain. This is why I said that the GOP should not have attended the Shit On The Union speech. They have to start acting as if Obama is an idiot - which he obviously is. They made the same mistake by attending his asinine ObamaCare zombification summit - which was the start to the 7th life of the bill and helped get it eventually shoved through.
When are people in public leadership positions going to treat the Indonesian Imbecile as the imbecile he is? He's an idiot. The guy talks about "profit and earnings ratios" and then lectures Wall Street and America about our financial system? WTF? And no one bothers to point this out and explain that only the dimmest of bulbs would lend any credibility to the blatherings of such a pea-brain. This is what really gets me.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 05, 2011 08:58 AM (N49h9)
Oh, and he said he will veto any bill that curtails the EPA
Fake a run up the middle, always go to the left
Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2011 08:58 AM (vdfwz)
If we make America the best place to do business, businesses should make their mark in America,” the president said. “They should set up shop here, and hire our workers, and pay decent wages, and invest in the future of this nation. That’s their obligation.”
*gasp*...truly, truly soaring and inspirational
...and it makes me moist
Posted by: Peggy Drunkbeforenoonan at February 05, 2011 08:58 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: toby928™: Free nickless the still-banned (99.174.64.43) at February 05, 2011 08:58 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: sTevo at February 05, 2011 08:59 AM (VMcEw)
Posted by: dagny at February 05, 2011 08:59 AM (6HG/9)
Posted by: curious at February 05, 2011 09:01 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 05, 2011 09:02 AM (xdHzq)
The laptops are good for learning sexual positions that look good on camera. Could be considered "career training" for the female high school students.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 05, 2011 09:05 AM (ElYV9)
Well, I've got things working out well in Egypt. On to motivating businesses. Is there anything I can't do?
Am I awesome, or what?
Posted by: Osama Obama at February 05, 2011 09:06 AM (UOM48)
What do you suppose the settlers of the West did to educate their children?
Sweet, sweet tax money and union labor! That's how!
Laura Ingalls would never have learned to read and write without the benefit of D.C. dictating the curriculum.
How about the mountain folk like the Waltons? How would they ever have survived without fresh fruits and yogurt in their school lunchrooms?
This nation was founded on union labor and government subsidies!
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 09:06 AM (piMMO)
This below is very similar to the crap about "helping military families". It's creating a gov't job to supposedly help military spouses get jobs. Guess who that will benefit most? I'll go find some of my favorite quotes from that Presidental Report that has failed to make me feel warmth and support from Mrs. Obama.
Look at what he wants to do to help business out:
The national economy, he said, depends on the government making upgrades in education and technology, as well as promoting — and in some cases, helping to advance — groundbreaking business proposals.
Posted by: Mama AJ at February 05, 2011 09:07 AM (XdlcF)
Mercury poisoning. Could explain some things.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 05, 2011 09:08 AM (ElYV9)
The laptops are good for learning sexual positions that look good on camera. Could be considered "career training" for the female high school students.
Heh! x 2
Posted by: beedubya at February 05, 2011 09:10 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 09:10 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: White House Dept. of Slogans and Seals at February 05, 2011 09:12 AM (YZISw)
Feel the gov't jobs love!
...
By making our court systems more responsive to the unique needs of Veterans and families.
2.
Ensure excellence in military childrenÂ’s education and their development,
2.1.
By improving the quality of the educational experience;
2.2.
By reducing negative impacts of frequent relocations and absences; and
2.3.
By encouraging the healthy development of military children.
3.
Develop career and educational opportunities for military spouses,
3.1.
By increasing opportunities for Federal careers;
3.2.
By increasing opportunities for private-sector careers;
With vague goals like that, how can they fail?
Link to pdf file.
Posted by: Mama AJ at February 05, 2011 09:12 AM (XdlcF)
Amen. The marginal difference in compensation between a shitty teacher and a great one does little to attract real teaching talent to stay in the profession. The difference from a student's perspective is profound. Can be a difference in a year, or more, in testing levels.
Yet the lefties, and the unions that own them, will raise holy hell any time you suggest that more competition should be added to the profession.
Posted by: Dave S. at February 05, 2011 09:13 AM (UvR6d)
Is it wrong that I wish Godzilla would appear on the National Mall for a little comic relief? Maybe he could peak in at Barky and Moochelle during their Super Bowl party tomorrow. I'll be Moochelle will be serving fat-free chips and dips. Or not.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 09:13 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Barry O at February 05, 2011 09:13 AM (YRt4D)
Posted by: Sparky at February 05, 2011 09:15 AM (MNYI+)
This program doesn't have a chance of succeeding without a catchy slogan.
How about:
"American Business Knows There's No Such Thing as a Free Reach-Around. Bend over. Pay up."
Nah. Find eight words for this acronym:
BEND OVER 4 FREE CASH
Posted by: Mama AJ...double the 2x4 double the fun at February 05, 2011 09:15 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: Barry O at February 05, 2011 09:15 AM (YRt4D)
Posted by: Babyface Ofuckstick at February 05, 2011 09:16 AM (yQWNf)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 05, 2011 09:16 AM (TMB3S)
Posted by: navybrat at February 05, 2011 09:17 AM (IZvfe)
The mayor of Milwaukee is bringing about 20 pounds of sausage to the party, just in case she accidentally practices what she preaches.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 05, 2011 09:18 AM (ElYV9)
Posted by: Lions at February 05, 2011 09:18 AM (wg2Is)
I'd be willing to contribute funding myself.
Posted by: ontherocks at February 05, 2011 09:18 AM (HBqDo)
The Coast Guard said they are working with several agencies to investigate."
Posted by: curious at February 05, 2011 09:18 AM (p302b)
Invest ... you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means
Posted by: Inigo Montoya at February 05, 2011 09:19 AM (vdfwz)
They view the private sector as something the government created, not the other way around.
Posted by: nickless the still-banned (99.174.64.43) at February 05, 2011 09:19 AM (qdtoY)
Posted by: nickless the still-banned (99.174.64.43) at February 05, 2011 09:20 AM (qdtoY)
40 or so hours before Monday morning and I have two analysis' to finish for work, two chapters to read for school, and assignment due, and two quizzes to prepare for and my house looks and smells like a herd of cattle ran through here.
So, what do I do this morning? I kill two hours at AoS.
Priorities.
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 09:20 AM (piMMO)
He should be scared too, along with any other business owner.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 05, 2011 09:21 AM (C9Oua)
Posted by: Inigo Montoya at February 05, 2011 09:21 AM (vdfwz)
The Botox Banshee
You're face isn't moving so I can't tell if you're happy or sad.
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 09:22 AM (piMMO)
In an unprecedented and controversial move, the White House has launched a new program at the Department of Labor which will refer workers who have complaints about their bosses to a toll free number at the American Bar Association, where they can get a lawyer to work on their case on a contingency fee basis.
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 05, 2011 09:23 AM (tvs2p)
Posted by: USA at February 05, 2011 09:23 AM (YZISw)
And? What's the NUMBER?
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 09:24 AM (piMMO)
Who wants to buy some Vanilla Waivers?
Posted by: King Barry I at February 05, 2011 09:24 AM (vdfwz)
Posted by: Tammie Faye Obama at February 05, 2011 09:24 AM (VXBR1)
O. M. G.
The White House in a statement says this is “a new effort between the federal government and private bar to assist complainants” who may need help with “worker rights.” In a statement, the ABA calls this new alliance “unprecedented.”
But will this create more lawsuits against companies? Will it stymie job creation at the very companies the President says he needs to help lower the high unemployment rate, including small businesses? Will this new program simply make it easier for lawyers to get business they may have garnered anyway?
And since Vice President Joe Biden says the lawyers will be working on a contingency fee basis, and not pro bono, doesn't that pretty much guarantee that the lawyers will be more apt to earn those fees via lawsuits against businesses?
<speechless>
Posted by: Mama AJ at February 05, 2011 09:26 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 09:28 AM (UOM48)
everyone needs a couple of hours for mental health. Dems take whole days off and call them "mental health days"
Posted by: curious at February 05, 2011 09:28 AM (p302b)
Now you damn capitalists are supposed obligated to risk donate your capital in Barry's over-regulated, over taxed environment.
This is your obligation to the state Saint Obama, making him look good like a Marxist God.
He forgot to say pretty please.
Posted by: bill at February 05, 2011 09:28 AM (VGEci)
And? What's the NUMBER?
I take that back.
You were serious?!
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 09:28 AM (piMMO)
Whatever happened to the concept that if you don't like your job here, you are free to find one somewhere else?
Oh, I forgot that out imperial overlords have endowed us with the right to happiness!
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 05, 2011 09:28 AM (DCpHZ)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 05, 2011 09:30 AM (8jQbF)
That's right, that's THEIR obligation. My obligation is to kill every business that doesn't benefit ME, and I paid good money for this guy to follow my orders.
Don't give me any shit about Petrobas getting all the offshore drilling business in Brazil with the ban. I spend my money and donate here, don't I? You don't see ME hanging out in France all the time. Although I would if they'd just drop that petty conviction on my insider trading.
Posted by: George Soros at February 05, 2011 09:30 AM (vdfwz)
One more reason to hate these sleazy lawyers. And I thought I was already as full of hatred as possible.
Posted by: NC Ref at February 05, 2011 09:31 AM (/izg2)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 09:32 AM (UOM48)
Speaking of Moochelle..
I just threw up in my mouth...and onto the table...and the carpet...and on the dog
Posted by: beedubya at February 05, 2011 09:32 AM (AnTyA)
Bono can pay for his own damn lawyer
Posted by: Joe the Biden at February 05, 2011 09:33 AM (vdfwz)
Posted by: dagny at February 05, 2011 09:34 AM (6HG/9)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 09:34 AM (UOM48)
“If we make America the best place to do business, businesses should make their mark in America,” the president said. “They should set up shop here, and hire our workers, and pay decent wages, and invest in the future of this nation. That’s their obligation.”
Here's the rest of his statment.
"But the operative word in that first sentence is "if." I have no intention of doing anything to help American business in any way. In fact, if you believe anything I say, then you're stupid enough to start a business which I can regulate or tax out of existence. It's what I do. In case you haven't noticed, I've called businesspeople in this country every bad name I can think of and accused them of every evil under the sun, just like I was taught to do. Look at the illegal moratorium on drilling for an example. Jeez, you people are stupid.
Now, watch this drive..."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 05, 2011 09:34 AM (b6qrg)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 05, 2011 09:34 AM (8jQbF)
I know -we should install a supply line filled with private industry profits (evil!) -- and have it delivered to Unions. Watch as economy implodes.
oh wait - we're already on that track. oh well. Next, genius democrats must promise to raise taxes back to Clinton era excess. Call is "fair". Watch as economy implodes.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at February 05, 2011 09:35 AM (0fzsA)
I'd go take a brisk walk to calm down, but global warming is making it miserably cold here.
It's slush-ville here, so I think I'll go teach the kids about healthy competition by beating them at Mario Kart Wii.
Posted by: Mama AJ, who'll just do anything FOR THE CHILDREN at February 05, 2011 09:36 AM (XdlcF)
Obama Said to Fault Spy AgenciesÂ’ Mideast Forecasting
Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2011 09:37 AM (vdfwz)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 05, 2011 09:37 AM (ElYV9)
Funny. It used to be, and they did. Then what happened?
Posted by: Steve Skubinna at February 05, 2011 09:37 AM (/3g5y)
Posted by: For the Children at February 05, 2011 09:38 AM (8jQbF)
Good luck with that Barry!
Canada's conservative Prime Minister Harper on the other hand is going to lower the corporate tax rate to 15%. Wonder how that's going to work out.
Posted by: Canadian Infidel at February 05, 2011 09:38 AM (GKQDR)
And since Vice President Joe Biden says the lawyers will be working on a contingency fee basis, and not pro bono, doesn't that pretty much guarantee that the lawyers will be more apt to earn those fees via lawsuits against businesses?
<speechless>
Posted by: Mama AJ at February 05, 2011 01:26 PM (XdlcF)
I think that may be in response to this story:As jury cases decline, so does art of trial lawyers
NASHVILLE — Lawyers Bob Walker and John Branham remember a time when they would argue multiple trials in a week — if not a day.
These days they're lucky to have more than one trial a year.
The trend of settling disputes through alternative means rather than going through a jury trial has been going on for about two decades and continued last year, according to recently released court statistics.
Avoiding trials saves litigants time and money — a big selling point, particularly for risk-averse businesses in tough economic times. But many lawyers worry that grizzled trial veterans such as Branham and Walker are an endangered species and that the jury trial is vanishing.
Her inability to participate in the trials she loved was a key reason Nancy Jones left Bass Berry & Sims' office in 2007 to lead the Tennessee Board of Professional Responsibility.
"What it really boiled down to is, when you wake up in the morning, and you haven't had a trial in nine years, can you look at yourself in the mirror and call yourself a trial lawyer?" she said.
U.S. District courts had 5,325 civil and criminal jury trials in 2008, down from 6,839 in 2000 and 9,844 in 1990. Tennessee jury trials in state civil courts were down by 1,000 from 2000 to 384.
[ . . . ]
"We take pro bono matters to get lawyers experience," said Bob Mendes president of the Nashville Bar Association.
Posted by: Ed Anger at February 05, 2011 09:38 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Michelle Obama's stretch pants at February 05, 2011 09:40 AM (AnTyA)
1. Stupid
2. Deliberately trying to wreck the capitalist system
Maybe Fox News could do a poll on this.
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 05, 2011 01:34 PM (8jQbF)
In precedent fuckstick's case 1 and 2 aren't mutually exclusive.
Posted by: ontherocks at February 05, 2011 09:40 AM (HBqDo)
1. Stupid
2. Deliberately trying to wreck the capitalist system
Maybe Fox News could do a poll on this.
I'm going to go with #2 for the win, Alex.
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 09:40 AM (piMMO)
I'd really like to know just how many businesses The Vapid One® sued in his job as a communist community organizer? Is Chicago better off or worse off as a result of his "work"?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 05, 2011 09:41 AM (b6qrg)
52%ers elected the least qualified, most corrupt, least intelligent douchebag in recent memory (well, at least since Jimmuh).
Also, Jugears is a lousy golfer, can't bowl, rides a girl's bike with a goofy helmet, probably can't shoot hoops worth a damn either, and his wife is his beard.
And I'm beginning to actually wonder about the birth certificate stuff.....
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 09:41 AM (UOM48)
But first they will blow me.
That’s their obligation.”
Posted by: Dang at February 05, 2011 09:41 AM (TXKVh)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 05, 2011 09:42 AM (8jQbF)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 09:42 AM (UOM48)
Maybe Fox News could do a poll on this. Posted by: nerdygirl at February 05, 2011 01:34 PM
Get the sandwiches ready and get the knob turners in here!
Then watch me cry as everyone screams and I ask why mommy and daddy can't play nice and solve all the problems in the world
Posted by: Frank Luntz at February 05, 2011 09:42 AM (vdfwz)
He's not trying to be pro-business at all. He's trying to start a new meme: "the evil businesses have an (patriotic) obligation to do set up shop here...if they do not, then they are the enemy", and he has thrown another bone to his lapdogs in education as well (Bill would be proud) plus did another rah-rah for green tech.
This isn't an example of his stupidity; this is an example of his malevolence -- the media will start to run with this in the coming months as spring time hiring I believe will not be good as was hoped for after the elections.
He isn't triangulating; he's just using weasel words to fool people into thinking he is.
What happens when all three branches of the government, the military, the media, the clergy, business, and the institutes of learning all become debased and irrevelent in the eyes of the public? We have already balkanized ourselves, made our culture and its roots irrevalent and debased...where do the people (and by that I mean the majority of average people) turn to when all the supports have been kicked out, especially when times get really hard?
This is purposeful and toxic -- and it's unfortunately, succeeding by quite a bit.
Posted by: unknown jane at February 05, 2011 09:43 AM (5/yRG)
Posted by: For the Children at February 05, 2011 09:43 AM (8jQbF)
It's slush-ville here, so I think I'll go teach the kids about healthy competition by beating them at Mario Kart Wii.
They beat me because Rainbow Road makes me barf.
Posted by: dagny at February 05, 2011 09:44 AM (6HG/9)
But first they will blow me.
That’s their obligation.”
Posted by: Dang at February 05, 2011 01:41 PM
Although overplayed, this phrase fits so well what Obama said that I hereby nominate it as the THREAD WINNER
Posted by: Mel Gibson at February 05, 2011 09:45 AM (vdfwz)
"We take pro bono matters to get lawyers experience," said Bob Mendes president of the Nashville Bar Association.
Ed, that reminds me of the WORST complaint ever about Operation Streamline--that silly program of actually throwing people in jail for being here illegally. Someone complained that the gov't lawyers just had to keep filing the same kind of paperwork thousands of time and so weren't getting experience doing other types of work.
Posted by: Mama AJ at February 05, 2011 09:45 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: unknown jane at February 05, 2011 01:43 PM (5/yRG)
Divide the ranks of your enemy, and you will conquer them. It's time-tested and proven to work. The progs have understood this since their inception. That's why you never, ever hear any unifying rhetoric from the left.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 05, 2011 09:46 AM (b6qrg)
You know that all of the fond Ronald Reagan remembrances this weekend are driving Barky nuts. Probably Jimmah Cartah too.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 05, 2011 09:47 AM (yQWNf)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 05, 2011 09:48 AM (8jQbF)
OK... so the question becomes, besides Blogs, and a few on Fox, who will call him on his blatant falsehoods, mistatements, and outright anti American rhetoric?
Has the Government learned that it CAN tell a BIG lie, and never be held accountable for it?
Think Global Warming. Even though the data has been prooven to be falsified, the press still reports it as if its a fact, and most people still belive.
Like the Unemployment figures yesterday, where the "renormed" the population, thus making a Win for the President, even though we did not make any more real jobs.
Or the Inflation Numbers... which if we used the Metrics used in the 80's, would be 7.8%...
Has the Government learned that it CAN lie to us, and get away with it?
(and to be fair, WMDs in Iraq... no one lost their job over that one...).
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 05, 2011 09:50 AM (AdK6a)
Posted by: stuiec at February 05, 2011 09:50 AM (EjyHt)
"They should set up shop here"
Yeah, they should, its their obligation of course, just like RationCare should work, after all its indivdual's obligation to get used to less choices, more costs.
Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at February 05, 2011 09:50 AM (ACkhT)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 05, 2011 09:52 AM (8jQbF)
Posted by: Spike at February 05, 2011 09:52 AM (WLxeI)
I....I'm speechless. And I have a headache.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 09:53 AM (UOM48)
People dependent on welfare or minimum wage jobs will always hold business in contempt. They can't grasp that their own lack of skills, timliness, attitude, dress, grammar, record, habits, has anything to do with their earning potential. They resent having to show up to a job on time everyday. They resent having to do work while they are there. It's as serf mentality and it's pervasive.
Obama and his type show up and act like they are the liberators; he will personally ensure that you are taken care of and not only that, the businesses and coporations and the rich will have to stop profiting and give it to you. It's a story as old as man. Obama is just Boss Tweed, except this time there is no one to stop him.
Posted by: dagny at February 05, 2011 09:54 AM (6HG/9)
Interesting, the economy is terrible, we've been told Chinese steel is the steel, not US Steel, yet, they have shifts 7 days a week. I wonder where the truth really lies.
Posted by: curious at February 05, 2011 09:54 AM (p302b)
Obama has instructed the CDC to stop reporting abortion statistics too. Now there will be no record of "before Obamacare" and "after Obamacare".
Makes you feel all warm inside.
Posted by: dagny at February 05, 2011 09:55 AM (6HG/9)
(and to be fair, WMDs in Iraq... no one lost their job over that one...).
There were WMD's in Iraq. The Iraqis had time to move them all to Syria while George Bush was delivering the longest telegraphed punch in recorded history.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 05, 2011 09:55 AM (yQWNf)
I....I'm speechless. And I have a headache.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 01:53 PM (UOM4
Didn't we have a thread on that a couple of days ago?
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 05, 2011 09:56 AM (AdK6a)
The only thing democrats do is motivate job loss, insecurity, and employers to pick up shop and move somewhere less hostile.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at February 05, 2011 09:56 AM (0fzsA)
Posted by: curious at February 05, 2011 09:56 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 09:57 AM (UOM48)
There were WMD's in Iraq. The Iraqis had time to move them all to Syria while George Bush was delivering the longest telegraphed punch in recorded history.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 05, 2011 01:55 PM (yQWNf)
Real or not...
Either someone should have lost their job for not publicly finding them...
or...
Someone should have lost their job for them not being real.
Either way... someone major should have been can'd.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 05, 2011 09:58 AM (AdK6a)
Posted by: dagny at February 05, 2011 09:58 AM (6HG/9)
Posted by: Dan at February 05, 2011 09:59 AM (mXBxH)
Posted by: curious at February 05, 2011 01:28 PM (p302b)
I guess that makes the days they work "mental illness days."
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 10:00 AM (bxiXv)
I guess that makes the days they work "mental illness days."
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 02:00 PM
Liberalism is, by definition, a mental illness.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 05, 2011 10:01 AM (yQWNf)
OT
""Fathom the odd hypocrisy that the government wants every citizen to prove that they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens."
Posted by: Ben Stein at February 05, 2011 10:01 AM (iB8CW)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 05, 2011 10:02 AM (8jQbF)
Either someone should have lost their job for not publicly finding them...
So we should have invaded Syria? Of course we'd have to give them 6 months warning too. I guess it is conceivable that they would run out of places to hide them.
Posted by: dagny at February 05, 2011 10:05 AM (6HG/9)
Real or not...
Either someone should have lost their job for not publicly finding them...
or...
Someone should have lost their job for them not being real.
Either way... someone major should have been can'd.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 05, 2011 01:58 PM (AdK6a)
I'm getting sick of this horse shit.
We found the WMDs, just not all of them (the rest were hauled away when we moved in, according to captured intel, the generals responsible).
The fucking UN whined at us publicly because we hauled tons and tons of the shit out of there and didn't give it to ElBaradei so he could give it to the fucking Iranians.
The admin pointed it out at the time, but the fucking MFM and the fucking Democrats have been lying about it ever since. If you can figure out a way to fire the MFM and the Democrats for being a bunch of lying fucksticks, please let us all know.
Until then, for the love of God, please, PLEASE stop cooperating with the lying assholes. You're gonna give me a fucking aneurysm.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 10:05 AM (bxiXv)
There were WMD's in Iraq. The Iraqis had time to move them all to Syria while George Bush was delivering the longest telegraphed punch in recorded history.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 05, 2011 01:55 PM (yQWNf)
Of course, being in Syria, they weren't in position to be used against American troops. So there's an upside to that.
Posted by: stuiec at February 05, 2011 10:07 AM (EjyHt)
Georges Sada, the head of the Iraqi Air Force while Saddam was still in power, published a book titled "Saddam's Secrets" which made this claim. I haven't read the book yet.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 05, 2011 10:07 AM (C9Oua)
So we should have invaded Syria? Of course we'd have to give them 6 months warning too. I guess it is conceivable that they would run out of places to hide them.
Posted by: dagny at February 05, 2011 02:05 PM
I like the Israeli approach. See a threat. Take it out. Let the world weep and wail. They weren't gonna be for you anyway so fuck 'em.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 05, 2011 10:07 AM (yQWNf)
Posted by: Spike at February 05, 2011 10:08 AM (WLxeI)
2. Deliberately trying to wreck the capitalist system
Interesting question, but same effect. Cause unimportant. Same solution tho', thwart every anti-capitalist tendency of the Tool-In-Chief.
Posted by: dogfish at February 05, 2011 10:09 AM (N2yhW)
Posted by: keninnorcal at February 05, 2011 10:10 AM (57BYM)
It enabled nurtured him.
That's why he keeps Chicago around him at all times; Ayers probably more than we know, Jarrett, Daley, Emmanuel and Axelrod. He tried to move the DNC and he Olympics there, because it was he crucible from which he sprang forth. Frank Marshall Davis made sure Obama knew the Who's Who of Hyde Park, and Thomas Ayers putt Obama in touch with young William as soon as Juggy was out of Occidental. Ayers helped get him into Columbia, and Percy Sutton said Khalid al-Mansour paid Obama's way through Harvard. Without his transcript's, the only person who could verify that (besides Obama) now sits on the Supreme Court.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 05, 2011 10:10 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 05, 2011 10:11 AM (mHQ7T)
HOLY.FUCKING.SHIT!!!.....sorry if that offends anyone, but....
It's no coincidence that Al Baradei showed up in Cairo only two days after the uprising began and was immediately named a negotiator by the Muslim Brotherhood. In fact, he had been waiting in the wings for quite a while.He's on the board of an organization headed by George Soros and Zbigniew Brzezinski called International Crisis Group. Brzezinski is the same man who supervised the fall of the Shah of Iran in 1979
and...
Update: Clarice Feldman writes:
The ICG site has now updated his membership as a board member.Mohamed El Baradei
Mr. ElBaradei suspended his membership from the Board of Crisis Group concurrent with his January 2011 return to Egypt.Posted by: beedubya at February 05, 2011 10:13 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: 7 Chinese Spammers at February 05, 2011 10:13 AM (hCQG5)
Until then, for the love of God, please, PLEASE stop cooperating with the lying assholes. You're gonna give me a fucking aneurysm.
I'm going to start keeping a list of things that people on the right buy from the left. I'd like to laminate it but new things keep cropping up. This week it's been "beck's ratings are plummeting" and "egyptian democracy protestors".
Posted by: dagny at February 05, 2011 10:14 AM (6HG/9)
Someone should have lost their job for them not being real.
Either way... someone major should have been can'd.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 05, 2011 01:58 PM (AdK6a)
Actually, the Iraq invasion led to a greater discovery of WMDs than anyone had even imagined. It was only because of that invasion, which sacred the arabs shitless (until they found out that Bush wouldn't really fight like it was a real war) and caused Libya to give in and puke up its whole WMD effort, which led directly to the inner workings of the AQ Khan network and allowed us to finally shut that down (for the most part). The AQ Khan network was far more important WMD than any stockpile that was supposed to be in Iraq, and was broken as a direct result of the Iraq invasion.
As to Iraq, itself, they were given so much time that it is amazing there was anything left in that country.
Lastly, there was never a question that Iraq held WMD. We knew that from the first gulf war. We got lucky and found out about Iraq's bio-weapons program because their Hussein's son-in-law ran away and spilled his guts to us. Other than that, we would have had no idea.
At the time that Clinton allowed the inspectors to be pushed around and kicked out of Iraq, there were WMDs, which is the last piece of actual data that anyone had. When we finally went back, Hussein claimed that those WMDs had been destroyed but for which there was no paperwork and no trace. Any reasonable person would continue to assume that they were there and that more were being planned (as per the bio-weapons program that the son-in-law informed us about, even after we had beaten the crap out of Iraq and they signed a cease-fire - whicha was, itself, nothing but a joke).
No one needed to apologize for anything about Iraq, except those who stopped us from finishing the job during the first gulf war and those who let their Hussein push us around after he suffered one of the most humiliating military defeats in all of recorded history.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 05, 2011 10:14 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: curious at February 05, 2011 10:15 AM (p302b)
Maybe Obama is to U.S., as the Muslim brotherhood is to Egypt. (our problems are different, but his ploy has similarities)
promise to provide for the "oppressed" poor
the rich/powerful are greedy and are the problem
Tea party/regular Egyptians .. peaceful grass roots protests
Far left nuts/Muslim Brotherhood ... organized violence (Ayers/union knee-cappers)
Obama/media matters America/capitalism is the devil
Muslim brotherhood America/capitalism is the devil
Posted by: bill at February 05, 2011 10:15 AM (VGEci)
Posted by: curious at February 05, 2011 10:17 AM (p302b)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 05, 2011 10:17 AM (8jQbF)
Obama imposes economic sharia law .... submit and donate to him, or face his economic reg's, health care burdens, and high taxes.
Obey him and get his rewards ... eg. unions, GE, special groups
Posted by: bill at February 05, 2011 10:18 AM (VGEci)
I'm going to start keeping a list of things that people on the right buy from the left
I like Flo and all...but the guy that runs Progressive is an Obama butt licker
Posted by: beedubya at February 05, 2011 10:19 AM (AnTyA)
I'm inclined to put a hefty boot to his ass and tell the son of a bitch to walk to wherever he's going.
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 05, 2011 10:20 AM (nD3Pg)
"If anyone saw it, what did he say?"
Told that the adminstration shouldn't openly tell Egypt what to do. Apparently the fraud in chief cannot figure out that real diplomacy is not done in public and openly.
Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at February 05, 2011 10:21 AM (ACkhT)
He's on the board of an organization headed by George Soros and Zbigniew Brzezinski called International Crisis Group. Brzezinski is the same man who supervised the fall of the Shah of Iran in 1979
Posted by: beedubya at February 05, 2011 02:13 PM (AnTyA)
I had missed the Soros connection earlier, probably from Conspiracy Fatigue, until that article Soros wrote backing the MoBro.
Say what you want about the man, he consistently gets behind anything that attacks freedom and self-determination and foists pain and suffering on the world.
Almost brings a tear to the eye of another Bond Villain.
Mind you, I hope Bond gets him. Competition is good, but there are limits.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 10:21 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Russ Feingold at February 05, 2011 10:22 AM (ElYV9)
Posted by: USA at February 05, 2011 10:23 AM (YZISw)
Posted by: Tammie Faye Obama at February 05, 2011 10:25 AM (VXBR1)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 05, 2011 10:26 AM (C9Oua)
I feel as though the administration went to communication school in the Middle East as they seem to communicate in much the same way.
Posted by: curious at February 05, 2011 10:27 AM (p302b)
No. Just bombed the living shit out of them - which would have precluded the last Lebanon War and Hezbollah's takeover of Lebanon. Powell was wrong (as usual) with his "If you break it, you own it," idiocy. We have no obligations to a nation that makes itself enough of a threat to us and our interests that we have to spend blood and treasure to go deal with them. That's their problem.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 05, 2011 10:28 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: curious at February 05, 2011 10:28 AM (p302b)
You know that all of the fond Ronald Reagan remembrances this weekend are driving Barky nuts. Probably Jimmah Cartah too.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 05, 2011 01:47 PMHaven't you followed the "Obama IS Reagan" narrative being spun by the MBM? Why, aren't you listening to Young Ron telling us how daddy would have hated Palin and loved Obama, that the Chocolate God is really pop's heir?
The speechwriter who wrote the 1987 Wall Speech was telling Laura Ingram that the Left never got Reagan and never will. They think of watching his speeches as watching a magician, thinking of you can spot his tricks you can duplicate them. They could never conceive that Reagan was speaking from the heart, and that he truly held his convictions in his heart. To the lefties, including his flesh and blood, he couldn't have REALLY believed what he was saying in his speeches, he just knew the tricks to sway the rubes.
Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2011 10:28 AM (vdfwz)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 05, 2011 10:31 AM (8jQbF)
Why hello corporatism...
Posted by: 18-1 at February 05, 2011 10:31 AM (bgcml)
Communicating in the same way meaning that both parties have no problem lying about whatever is convenient as long as it furthers their cause.
Posted by: NC Ref at February 05, 2011 10:32 AM (/izg2)
Turning in my fellow Jews to their executioners has been my meal ticket since I was 14. Always go with your best pitch, I always say ...
Posted by: George Soros at February 05, 2011 10:32 AM (vdfwz)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 05, 2011 10:33 AM (8jQbF)
Posted by: Krazy Kat at February 05, 2011 10:33 AM (oNphh)
Posted by: Damiano at February 05, 2011 10:33 AM (3nrx7)
Looks like part of the headline was cut off...it should read, "Obama Tries His Hand at Motivating Businesses To Shutter US Subsidiaries."
The motivational posters write themselves.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 05, 2011 10:34 AM (81qtQ)
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 10:35 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2011 02:28 PM (vdfwz)
That was a great interview. I have to say that Laura has gotten much, much better when she subs for O'Reilly. I love watching the show with her. I also have to say that I have gained some grudging respect for O'Reilly for bringing Laura on, still ... not enough to counter his asinine butt-kissing and maverocity, but some. After she made that remark about "I know that you have an interview with Obama coming up ..." O'Reilly blew a gasket on that one, but he kept bringing her back to air a true conservative view.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 05, 2011 10:35 AM (N49h9)
I'm going to start keeping a list of things that people on the right buy from the left
I like Flo and all...but the guy that runs Progressive is an Obama butt licker
Posted by: beedubya at February 05, 2011 02:19 PM (AnTyA)
You know I meant "buy into"......not "purchase", right?
I had missed the Soros connection earlier, probably from Conspiracy Fatigue, until that article Soros wrote backing the MoBro.
I hear you. I've thought the whole time that the protestors were backed by the usual bad guys but the entire media blitz has been the opposite. Info finally coming in.
Posted by: dagny at February 05, 2011 10:37 AM (6HG/9)
well also the rumors and different things emanating from different folks in the same administration so you have to guess what they are thinking, what they actually want or believe. If you have different people saying different things then, in the end, you can always claim you were right. It's actually very clever. But, no one knows who your friends really are, if any, and who you really are supporting.
In foreign affairs and domestic affairs alike. Which is why business isn't buying what's being sold, but they just aren't saying they aren't buying but their actions are going to speak louder than their words, smiles and pats on the back.
Posted by: curious at February 05, 2011 10:37 AM (p302b)
Until then, for the love of God, please, PLEASE stop cooperating with the lying assholes. You're gonna give me a fucking aneurysm.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 02:05 PM (bxiXv)
Thank you for making my point for me.
The ORIGIONAL point, was that the US Government, and Politicians can and do get away with telling Lies all the time... and no one calls them on it in any meaninful way..
This situation illustrates my point perfectly.
The "reason" Bush used to invade Iraq the second time, WAS WMDs ( at least the reason he sold to the American people).
Now... either there WERE WMDs there which we, through incompetence, let get away... or there were not signifiant amounts there... either way the PUBLIC does not know.
Just like with Global Warming... where we KNOW the Data was falsified... yet the media, and Government continue to propogate that same suspect data... and are not laughed at in public and dismissed.
Just like the Unemployment numbers... or inflation numbers... where one side, or the other, is flat out telling lies.... and yet getting away with it.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 05, 2011 10:38 AM (AdK6a)
Posted by: real joe at February 05, 2011 10:38 AM (w7Lv+)
Big Obama donor quits envoy job amid criticism
WASHINGTON (AP) — As a supporter of presidential candidate Barack Obama, Cynthia Stroum was a superstar whose financial backing of the campaign landed her a plum diplomatic posting in Europe.
As America's ambassador to Luxembourg, the wealthy Seattle-based businesswoman was a disaster.
Posted by: George Soros at February 05, 2011 10:39 AM (vdfwz)
Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2011 02:28 PM (vdfwz)
Ever hear the expression "a thief believes that everybody steals?"
That applies to Democrats in spades. They constantly treat everyone else as if they're all playing disingenuous political games. I can't tell you how many times I've tried to get past the inane assumptions behind leftist thinking, there's no way to convince them that you sincerely hold a principle because the concept is alien to them, in large part.
There are exceptions, but the vast majority of the leftis I've dealt with both clearly lie (often to your face about your own beliefs), and assume everyone else lies.
I've often said, if they were 5% of the population they'd be ignored or treated as mental defectives, but because there are so many of them we have to treat them like adults or destroy society - and treating them like adults is destroying society and legitimizing their madness.
We just have no method to cope with mass dishonesty, we can't cope.
The whole fallout from the mass murder in Tucson was an example of millions of people advancing a transparently inane argument in lockstep. How do you actually cope with that?
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 10:41 AM (bxiXv)
she just said what everyone is saying and thinking. People have noticed how fox has been walking on eggs, fearing the interview will be pulled. And then they have the audacity to run that pompous BO/BO love fest commercial advertising it as "the interview everyone will be talking about". I don't think he realized that he embarrassed himself in the last interview. No one wants to see a pandering old fool and a word parser.
Posted by: curious at February 05, 2011 10:41 AM (p302b)
Yep. Execs will make a big pr deal about loving BO and give him his tribute so the MFM can parrot his awesomeness, but actual investment in additional labor to increase production...or start new businesses...won't happen soon.
Posted by: NC Ref at February 05, 2011 10:43 AM (/izg2)
Posted by: Damiano at February 05, 2011 10:44 AM (3nrx7)
Posted by: curious at February 05, 2011 10:45 AM (p302b)
Now... either there WERE WMDs there which we, through incompetence, let get away... or there were not signifiant amounts there... either way the PUBLIC does not know.
The non-stupid Public does know. You want to fire someone because the libral media insisted that "bush lied-people died"? Who the fuck is responsible for that? The LEFT.
Another example, The Supreme court decision in Bush v. Gore was 7-2. The remedy they imposed was 5-4. How many people do you think know that? It's the truth, it's a fact, it was reported that way initially but the media ran with the 5-4 and the LEFT still insists it was a close decision, stolen by the partisan conservatives on the court.
I don't know what you can do about the lefty media and republicans should do a better job defending themselves BUT when they do they get attacked for that too. (Sarah Palin inserts herself).
Posted by: dagny at February 05, 2011 10:47 AM (6HG/9)
How many cars with the Government Motors nameplates are made in Mexico, Canada, or are rebadged Korean cars? Fiat is the main owner of Chrysler now.
BMW, Honda, Toyota, and Volkswagen all have large assembly plants in America, but the problem King Barry has is that they insist on making them in states that aren't run by the fatasses in the UAW
His pet corporation GE no doubt has the lions share of their manufacturing outside the US no matter what their idiot commercials try to tell us
You know those awesome miracle solar panels that are going to lead the way with the bazillions of Green Jobs? Just this past week a MA based company making the panels announced they're shutting down a plant and heading offshore. A few months ago a CA company announced that they're only going to do the finishing here, the main manufacturing will be done in China
But I can confidently assume they're getting the Big Innovation Bucks from DC
Posted by: kbdbabear at February 05, 2011 10:49 AM (vdfwz)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 05, 2011 10:53 AM (8jQbF)
Thank you for making my point for me.
The ORIGIONAL point, was that the US Government, and Politicians can and do get away with telling Lies all the time... and no one calls them on it in any meaninful way..
This situation illustrates my point perfectly.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 05, 2011 02:38 PM (AdK6a)I'm sorry if I'm coming across as hostile, I'm just so God-damned sick of fighting the same God-damned dishonest narrative over and over and fucking over again.
1) There were something like 29 stated reasons for the invasion. There was some redundancy in the list. You push one as if it were the only one, which is ANOTHER part of the fucking leftist lie machine.
2) You have completely ignored everything we've said to correct your bullshit about the "either there were none or we missed them" bullshit, ANOTHER part of the fucking leftist lie machine.
3) You CONTINUE to complain to the people who are pointing out the lies that we're not pointing out the lies. What the fuck do you want? I know, I'll just take over the fucking world and FORCE everyone to tell the truth. With fucking magic.
Why don't you go complain to fucking CNN? Why are you bitching at us because we can't fix the whole fucking world for you?
I mean, you make an assertion based on the false narrative of the left, we correct you with details, and you come back with a rebuttal based on the SAME original false narrative?I didn't make your point for you, YOU can't even make your point.
One of the main purposes of places like this blog is to point out the lies of the lie machine. We do it EVERY DAY, and then you come here and complain that we're not doing WHAT WE DO EVERY DAY.
It makes no sense!
Oh, it's because we haven't magically fixed the world completely for you. Well, fine, you can have your money back.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 10:53 AM (bxiXv)
I know I'm preaching to the choir to addressing business obligations but here goes anyway. Business has one primary obligation, earn a profit. Social employee and environmental concerns are a luxury only afforded by profit. The government can provide infrastructure that makes for a healthy business environment with roads, power and an educated work force but beyond that most regulation tends to destroy that enviornment. Some regulation is good. I don't want asbestos fibers floating around work or lead in the paint of the crib and toys my kid chews on but we have obviously gone way past that point.
Regulation needs inspectors and enforcers. Inspector and enforcers need to be paid. Paying them means more taxes and fines. Yada, yada, yada...
Posted by: Ohio Dan at February 05, 2011 10:54 AM (EH4cc)
"The transition to democracy will only work if it is deliberate, inclusive, and transparent,"
Ahh, we've got a pot/kettle disconnect here, boss... What's that? Oh OK, transition only? Nevermind.
Posted by: White House More Perfect Union Commune-ity Corpse at February 05, 2011 10:55 AM (rkXw+)
Posted by: NortonPete at February 05, 2011 10:57 AM (fVuwW)
Posted by: Yankee Mechanic at February 05, 2011 10:58 AM (G5qLy)
Put it on a screenplay with a lot of fast paced chatter, and watch the Oscar nominations roll in while you're proclaimed a genius
Posted by: Aaron Sorkin at February 05, 2011 11:00 AM (vdfwz)
Another example, The Supreme court decision in Bush v. Gore was 7-2. The remedy they imposed was 5-4. How many people do you think know that? It's the truth, it's a fact, it was reported that way initially but the media ran with the 5-4 and the LEFT still insists it was a close decision, stolen by the partisan conservatives on the court.
Posted by: dagny at February 05, 2011 02:47 PM (6HG/9)
Worse, they always say "Bush went to court..." GORE went to court and asked the Florida Supreme Court to change election law after the vote, they agreed and Bush then asked the Federal Supreme Court to rule on it, and they said "Oh, Hell No" 7-2. Then the remedy was more controversial, thus the 5-4 vote, because of fairly obvious partisan reasons.
The point is that GORE tried to get the courts to hand him the election when the voters didn't, and the Fed Supremes said NO.
The same Gore that tried to block military votes. And who lost every official recount.
And the left still chants "Selected not elected!" and "Stole the election!"
BECAUSE THEY LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING.
And I'm supposed to stop that with my keyboard. Amazing power I must have.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 11:01 AM (bxiXv)
And some of them go back as far as UN Resolutions 678, 687 from the early '90s. We didn't invade Iraq in 2003, we liberated Kuwait in 1991 and it took like 20 damn years to finally make Hussein's surrender stick.
Posted by: NC Ref at February 05, 2011 11:01 AM (/izg2)
Posted by: Bawney Fwank at February 05, 2011 11:02 AM (VXBR1)
Posted by: Palerider at February 05, 2011 11:04 AM (m+nIW)
Posted by: Kanye West, Austin Powers Villain at February 05, 2011 11:05 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by:Krazy Kat at February 05, 2011 02:33 PM (oNphh)
Dear God that is such a great rant on one of the most deserving cocksucking recipients in existence. In electing the purple-lipped dumbass we still dodged a bullet by not electing the fuckheaded Maverick who never tires of stabbing conservatives in the back when he doesn't need their vote. Palin should've shitcanned any feeling of loyalty and not endorsed that senile prick, which probably wouldn't have made any difference but still....
What kind of fucking country do we have that I'd rather have Mubarak leading it than either of the 2008 presidential candidates?
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 05, 2011 11:06 AM (eh+ki)
There were WMDs in Iraq; we did recover some of the components and more importantly we uncovered Saddam's connections to international terrorist groups...a lot of the stuff did get moved (and believe it or not, we kept track of that too).
However, a lot of this stuff was either classified information that couldn't be disclosed without consequences or the media did a bang up job of repressing it (perhaps because it is biased????). Also, there were other, legitimate reasons for invading Iraq -- again, they would fall under classified information and/or involved really wonkish explanations that the general public would likely have had a hard time wrapping their heads around -- even if the media was inclined to report fairly on it. However, that does not mean that Bush's administrations did the best job of prosecuting the war or conveying the importance of the same -- I think that failed to some degree.
It's rather like the situation of business, labor, the whole rigamarole -- businesses are getting the shaft (and the workers as a result), but businesses aren't exactly lily pure either.
Oh well.
Posted by: unknown jane at February 05, 2011 11:07 AM (5/yRG)
Posted by: curious at February 05, 2011 01:56 PM
All oppressed muslims and undocumented hot dog vendors may apply for waivers on the DHS web site. Just print it out and show it to any SEIU security volunteer or TSA employee
Posted by: Janet Big Sis Napolitano at February 05, 2011 11:07 AM (vdfwz)
Posted by: Kanye West, Austin Powers Villain at February 05, 2011 03:05 PM
I'd lock out political channels and let her watch entertainment fluff so I could enjoy poking her in the squeakhole
Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2011 11:10 AM (vdfwz)
Posted by: Remembering American at February 05, 2011 11:10 AM (iB8CW)
Posted by: Economics Teacher at February 05, 2011 11:12 AM (iB8CW)
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 02:53 PM (bxiXv)
Wow.... simmer down.... geeezzzz
Did I want YOU to come up with a solution? or was it a general observation.
As to "correcting" me... I've been reading reports from BOTH sides for years, so please spare me your outrage... as someone who HAS followed this story on and off for years... you are coming off like a Truther in your outrage.
My mind if open on the question, becaue I DON'T know, and have not seen definitive proof either way on the subject. I've seen everything from Books from Iraqi Generals, to UN reports, to US Army reports, to Congress rambling, and now YOUR opinon on it... still have not found anything definitive enough to make up my mind on that subject.
But the broader point is that I think the Government is getting more blatant in their attempts to mislead... that they are not even seriously trying to hide their lies anymore, but just trusting the media and pundits to blindly follow and spout their "story".
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 05, 2011 11:12 AM (AdK6a)
Posted by: NC Ref at February 05, 2011 03:01 PM
I have always considered one of Bush 41's biggest mistakes -- maybe the biggest -- to have been listening to the America-hating wusses in the UN and cutting Hussein a break at the end of that war. We had the resources, had the military power, and had Saddam on the run. A few more days (albeit at the cost of one or two CNN "reporters" holed up in Baghdad, maybe) and he would have been gone.
Re-establishing a believable deterrent is always harder than keeping it going. Look at the way the Norks and Vietnamese Communists tremble before us today....
Thanks largely to 41's waffling, we'll probably be frittering away our treasure -- especially human treasure -- in the ME for another 20 years at least.
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 11:13 AM (Ulu3i)
You know, I almost *want* to think he's just a dunder-headed figurehead, that we elected Chauncey Gardner and not an embittered, entitled saboteur.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 11:13 AM (bxiXv)
McCain is the embodiment of the early morning riser. The one who shows up to work at 0700 Monday morning and walks office to office spouting off about what a wonderful day it is. You can appreciate his sunny disposition while wanting to give him a swirly at the same time.
When you've been a POW in Vietnam, I guess every day seems better than the last.
Not every day is better than the last. Not every person is capable of change. Not every policy is well-intended. And not every President is in it for the betterment of his country.
Sometimes, John, Mondays suck, assholes enjoy being assholes, policy screws discriminately and sometimes Presidents do and truly care for their own best interest first.
He's way past old enough that these facts should be apparent however he's never quite grasped the whole "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me" rule. And, if he's incapable of it the kind folks of Arizona need to wake the fuck up and let him go out into pasture and stare at the sunsets and pick wildflowers.
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 11:14 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 05, 2011 11:14 AM (XBM1t)
Business owners like us know pretty well how this all works out in RealityLand, but we're constantly under the lash of kleptocrats and idiots who have the gall to call us stupid, greedy, evil, etc.
It seems pretty clear that businesses will remain hunkered down like closed barnacles until this commie administration has been completely neutered.
Posted by: lauraw at February 05, 2011 11:15 AM (DbybK)
Posted by: nevergiveup at February 05, 2011 11:15 AM (yoOuQ)
And I'm supposed to stop that with my keyboard. Amazing power I must have.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 03:01 PM (bxiXv)
Hmmm.. please point out where I posted that I thought YOU could fix this? Vice my intent which was to lead to the point that they are getting more blatant? And throwing the question out for discussion?
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 05, 2011 11:16 AM (AdK6a)
Posted by: USS Diversity at February 05, 2011 11:17 AM (DLxD/)
Never fear! Nappy's happy band of taxpayer-supported elves have found time while preparing for the inevitable attack of the Drunken Super Bowel Fans to issue a report saying it's not the terrorists coming from Mexico we need to worry about, it's those coming from Canada!
Actually, I worry most about the terrorists flying on government jets, but that's just me....
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 11:18 AM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: journolist at February 05, 2011 11:18 AM (iHfo1)
Posted by: Bawney Fwank at February 05, 2011 11:18 AM (VXBR1)
If i remember right, it was Colin Powell who talked Bush 41 into backing down at without removing Saddam. I think it was in a book Powell wrote where he said he thought the world would see the removal of Saddam as America being a bully and it would tarnish the the otherwise great victory they had up to that point, his words, not mine. That idiotic reasoning is why i never hopped onto the Powell bandwagon and he's only gotten worse since then.
Posted by: booger at February 05, 2011 11:18 AM (9RFH1)
Guess who's not watching the Stupid Bowl?
Guess who doesn't give two shits from a rat's ass about the game?
Posted by: Air Lingus Soothsayer at February 05, 2011 11:19 AM (uFokq)
Posted by: nevergiveup at February 05, 2011 03:15 PM (yoOuQ)
I've heard that's the justification but don't buy it. Seems to me the stadium's owner, the city/county the stadium it's located in, the blimp companies (Black Sunday reference), and the NFL should be able to handle their event w/out the Feds coming in and requiring metal detectors and pat downs.
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 05, 2011 11:21 AM (XBM1t)
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 03:13 PM (Ulu3i)
20 years at least, I'll bet the over on that one. When I do have what I call "The Conversation" with a liberal about the Iraq situation, when I can get them to stop hyperventilating and spewing crap like "no blood for oil" and actually walk them through the whole deal starting from Iraq's 1990 invasion, they get it. Its only happened twice though.
Posted by: NC Ref at February 05, 2011 11:23 AM (/izg2)
Posted by: booger at February 05, 2011 03:18 PM
GHWB could have said no to Gen'l Bootlicker. In fact, he should have said "fuck, no, you fool!"
A president is supposed to have bigger ones than his subordinates. That's why the spectacle of Osama Obama being led around by his nose by terrorists, traitors and totalitarians is so repugnant.
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 11:23 AM (Ulu3i)
Guess who's not watching the Stupid Bowl?
Hosni Mubarack!
Posted by: USS Diversity at February 05, 2011 11:23 AM (DLxD/)
Posted by: Air Lingus Soothsayer at February 05, 2011 03:19 PM
Me, I'll be watching Puppy Bowl VII.
Only because the Kitteh Bowl isn't being televised, you understand.
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 11:25 AM (Ulu3i)
Oh yeah, i'm not absolving Bush the elder, just pointing out Powells part.
Posted by: booger at February 05, 2011 11:26 AM (9RFH1)
I've heard that's the justification but don't buy it. Seems to me the stadium's owner, the city/county the stadium it's located in, the blimp companies (Black Sunday reference), and the NFL should be able to handle their event w/out the Feds coming in and requiring metal detectors and pat downs.
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 05, 2011 03:21 PM (XBM1t)
It's interstate commerce. The teams are from different states. The Feds, therefore, have full power over every aspect of it. Now, shut up. You're interstate commercing right now, which means that we have full control over everything you do. Don't make us come over there!
Posted by: The Feral Government at February 05, 2011 11:27 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: t-bird at February 05, 2011 11:27 AM (FcR7P)
Hell, he keeps bowing and presenting it!
Posted by: NC Ref at February 05, 2011 11:27 AM (/izg2)
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 03:23 PM (Ulu3i)
Every time I see Poppy Bush on television I want to vomit. He's as useless and embarrassing as Carter to me.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 05, 2011 11:27 AM (eh+ki)
Guess what the objects are in this pic.
(do not click if you're squeamish. it's not bad-bad, but it's kinda graphic in a medical sorta way)
Posted by: Air Lingus Soothsayer at February 05, 2011 11:27 AM (uFokq)
Posted by: Air Lingus Soothsayer at February 05, 2011 03:26 PM
Worshipfully, I hope.
Don't wanna piss off Ceiling Cat!
Kthxbai.
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 11:27 AM (Ulu3i)
Sure do wish there was a Kitteh Bowl. I'd stay home with a bowl of popcorn.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 11:28 AM (UOM48)
Osama Obama's Dangling Courage Units?
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 11:29 AM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: booger at February 05, 2011 03:18 PM (9RFH1)
Yeah because it's critical in a WAR to act civilized, lest the others sipping slurpees from the sidelines think ill of you. Like any of the UN countries that always vote in opposition to the US would change their ways due to the US's restraint.
They're gonna see you as a bully no matter what you do, Powell, so you might as well have a good time doing it. Clear the battlefield and level the homelands that gave rise to the conflict. The US can demonstrate its benevolence to the survivors, if any, during reconstruction.
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 05, 2011 11:32 AM (XBM1t)
At the risk of having to turn in my True Conservative Card, I'm afraid I think a few minutes of O'Reilly sucking the Mohammedan Mouthpieces's (ours, that is) toes and trying to constantly change the topic back to himself will be as laughable to libs as it will be to anyone who can think rationally.
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 11:32 AM (Ulu3i)
Sure do wish there was a Kitteh Bowl. I'd stay home with a bowl of popcorn.
Posted by: Gerald Bravlofski at February 05, 2011 11:32 AM (g11gl)
Posted by: Krazy Kat at February 05, 2011 11:33 AM (oNphh)
Unless I am mistaken, aren't kittehs the halftime show?
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 11:35 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: fixerupper at February 05, 2011 11:35 AM (ffV1/)
Falafel Boy is always so hesitant to even mildly criticize Barky. Probably hoping for an invite to the WH Super Bowl party. What a squish.
I really wish Bill would retire. Laura Ingraham is so much better.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 11:36 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Governor Patterson at February 05, 2011 11:36 AM (g11gl)
As to "correcting" me... I've been reading reports from BOTH sides for years, so please spare me your outrage... as someone who HAS followed this story on and off for years... you are coming off like a Truther in your outrage.
My mind if open on the question, becaue I DON'T know, and have not seen definitive proof either way on the subject. I've seen everything from Books from Iraqi Generals, to UN reports, to US Army reports, to Congress rambling, and now YOUR opinon on it... still have not found anything definitive enough to make up my mind on that subject.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 05, 2011 03:12 PM (AdK6a)If you actually bothered to do any research, you'd know your original assertions and the leftist tropes are outright lies, you'd know how many tons we recovered from Iraq and brought here and how many we destroyed, because we reported that repeatedly and the UN filed a formal protest when we removed what we took.
You'd know that it wasn't one source but dozens including documentation from the collapsed regime and other nations in the region, our own intelligence-gathering and that of our allies. You'd know that Iraq USED checmical weapons in battle and against civilians, so the question of whether they had WMDs or not is completely disingenuous.
If you truly don't believe anybody, then you frankly have nothing to say on the damned subject, so stop complaining because you're not going to accept anybody's words anyway. Why are you here at all? You've had plenty of time in the last several years to do your damned homework and you didn't, you get an 'F' and you have to repeat the class.
If you really didn't know you would be easily able to find out, but your confusion isn't the result of ignorance because you could have fixed that already.
Maybe if you ask nice the Army will let you dig around in some of the masses of chemically-loaded artillery shells and 55-gallon drums of Sarin and blistering agents we recovered. Or maybe you can just consider counter-claims from Daily Kos to be equivalent and keep your mind open.
And don't dare come here repeating lies about Bush selling the gulf war based only on WMDs or that there never were any and then stinkin' call ME a TRUTHER. That's not only fucking insulting, it's hypocritical.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 11:37 AM (bxiXv)
Considering how in debt we are as a nation and our damaged relationships with our allies, I am already leary of anyone who will be seeking the office which leads our government in 2012.
If the next elected POTUS is not a strong enough person (politcally and personally), should their sanity be tested?
I mean, think about it: who in their right mind would seek to follow Obama, facing deficits and our adversaries, unless it was someone who truly believed in the United States, her citizens, and her laws.
Or, is it like being the headline act on a bill of local acts -- the next POTUS will look good next to this POTUS?
Posted by: elspeth at February 05, 2011 11:37 AM (iB8CW)
I think that was coined by progressoverpeace, a former commenter here (and, from what I recall, one pretty smart dude).
I keep meaning to steal it. Now that I've absorbed Ace's "MBM," I'll work on it again.
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 11:37 AM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: RushBabe at February 05, 2011 11:38 AM (urYpw)
I really wish Bill would retire.
The folks need me. nameandtownnameandtownnameandtownnameandtown
Posted by: Shill O'Really at February 05, 2011 11:39 AM (DLxD/)
It's all about everything *except* the game.
It's about Rothlisberger. It's about Obama. It's about Jennifer Lopez.
And it's about friggin commercials.
Posted by: Air Lingus Soothsayer at February 05, 2011 11:39 AM (uFokq)
Posted by: Sarah Palin at February 05, 2011 11:40 AM (iB8CW)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 03:36 PM
I'd go for that! In fact, I'd like for her to give an occasional few minutes per week to O'Reilly, so she could use that tongue of hers to skoosh him like a bug.
(Sorry for the mixed metaphor.)
As long as she doesn't start calling everyone by their last names and slobbering over Dennis Miller, it's all good.
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 11:41 AM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 03:37 PM (bxiXv)
Isn't it enough for the Lefties that Iraq was a State Sponser of Terrorism?
Hussein (their's -not ours) was a Personal Sponser as well. He PAID Pali families, encouraging them to commit acts of terror, of Suicide Bombers.
...don't get me started on his affronts to the UN...
Posted by: Governor Patterson at February 05, 2011 11:42 AM (g11gl)
Posted by: Air Lingus Soothsayer at February 05, 2011 03:39 PM
Lemme know when it's all about kittehs and I'll be there.
In the meantime, I'll give the TV a rest until next Sunday....
Daytona 500, you know.
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 11:43 AM (Ulu3i)
Hi guys!
What are we talking about?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 05, 2011 03:40 PM (mo4o3)
Kittehs, Puppy Bowls, Iraq WMDs, and how Obama isn't creating an environment for businesses to grow, much as he's trying to act like it. Up next...bacon?
Typical day.
Posted by: NC Ref at February 05, 2011 11:44 AM (/izg2)
Yeah, I thought they looked a little big to be from the Mohammedan Mouthpiece (ours, that is).
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 11:45 AM (Ulu3i)
The first may have just been lazy, but the second was disingenuous. Maybe you think everyone's the same and we're all a bunch of liars, but in that case why even talk to us? You'd be wasting your time (and ours).
All things are not equal, the WMDs were not the only or even the main reason we invaded, we did recover WMDs, and the left and the MFM (but I repeat myself) have been lying consistently about it.
And it really doesn't even take that much homework to figure it out. I'd give you the links but you think everybody's lying so what would be the point?
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 11:45 AM (bxiXv)
or run by terrorists, so the other arguments wouldn't suffice
Posted by: justin cord at February 05, 2011 11:48 AM (2C3OH)
Posted by: sifty at February 05, 2011 11:50 AM (oEV9E)
Daytona 500, you know.
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 03:43 PM (Ulu3i)
Bud Shootout next sunday. The 500 is on the 20th, two weeks til then.
Posted by: PoconoJoe at February 05, 2011 11:51 AM (c4FgZ)
Oh commercials?
The funniest one I've seen in some time.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 05, 2011 03:44 PM (mo4o3)
Sure, it's all fun and games until Dad forgets to set the parking brake and leaves the car in a forward gear.
Posted by: stuiec at February 05, 2011 11:52 AM (EjyHt)
Posted by: justin cord at February 05, 2011 03:48 PM (2C3OH)
I still can't figure out why they never put forth the logical and correct assertion that Saddam Hussein had been in violation of his surrender agreement since 30 days after he signed it, and under international law we had every right...and responsibility...to remove him from the Earth office.
Posted by: NC Ref at February 05, 2011 11:52 AM (/izg2)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at February 05, 2011 11:53 AM (EH4cc)
It fucking sets me off because it's so damned inane. Some people can be buried up to the neck in evidence and they still hem and haw that it just *might* not be so.
Yes, people lie. Yes, it's frustrating. But with a little effort, you can find out what happened most of the time.
Which is the ultimate irony to the blogfight I just got myself into. You want to know why the lies are so brazen and nobody seems to be able to stop it? Ask yourself why you think we went to war over WMDs and you don't know whether we found any.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 11:53 AM (bxiXv)
Bud Shootout next sunday. The 500 is on the 20th, two weeks til then.
Posted by: PoconoJoe at February 05, 2011 03:51 PM (c4FgZ)
I'm wrong, Bud Shootout next SATURDAY.
Posted by: PoconoJoe at February 05, 2011 11:53 AM (c4FgZ)
I don't know what's more frightening: Osama Obama's "I don't give a shit" look or the perception that Joltin' Joe Biden is actually puttin' him some learnin'.
That those two fuck-ups could get into the White House as anything but floor-sweepers is Our National Shame.
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 11:54 AM (Ulu3i)
I think every person who denies we found WMD in Iraq should be presented with one of those nice artillery shells the fellas dug up over there. The ones with Sarin all over them.
Just as a nice safe non-threatening paperweight for their desk to remind them of the death of their meme.
Posted by: sifty at February 05, 2011 11:54 AM (oEV9E)
Posted by: sifty at February 05, 2011 03:50 PM (oEV9E)
(sifty hates black people)
Posted by: Kanye West, Austin Powers Villain at February 05, 2011 11:55 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at February 05, 2011 11:55 AM (EH4cc)
I'm wrong, Bud Shootout next SATURDAY.
Posted by: PoconoJoe at February 05, 2011 03:53 PMYou're right. Speed Week starts next week, the 500 in two weeks.
But fuck you, anyway. I want the season to start TODAY.
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 11:55 AM (Ulu3i)
Every time Jugears opens his piehole, he affirms that he knows absolutely nothing about business. His history prior to his political career was filled with rabble-rousing and efforts to convince people that businesses are evil and filled with greedy fat-cats who do nothing but exploit "workers" (a decidedly communist term that he still uses today instead of the capitalist term "employee"). Nothing has changed for this asshole, except now he is in a position to inflict his twisted views of capitalism upon those he hates, which is the rest of us. And make no mistake, he and his prog cronies hate this country and everyone who lives in it. Why else would he want everyone's utility bills to "necessarily skyrocket?"
Hell, any one of us Morons with a raging hangover could run a business better than he could. I hope that some of the idiot 52%'ers will wake up to the horrible mistake they made and that all of us are paying for in the form of lost jobs and the wasting of America.
We are well and truly fucked.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 05, 2011 11:56 AM (b6qrg)
My ten-year old Lhasa Apso and faithful friend Biscuit died this morning, more or less instantly following heart failure.
When we found Biscuit as a puppy he already had heart worms, and he was probably lucky to survive the treatment required to get rid of them. His heart, however, had likely been permanently damaged in the process.
He also had pneumonia a couple of time over the past few years. Though we didnÂ’t know it at the time, his diminished cardiovascular system was probably responsible for the severity of those bouts.
He hadnÂ’t been breathing right lately, and was due for an
appointment with a canine cardiologist on Monday. When I dropped him off at the vets for cremation this morning they said there is no way he could have survived the treatment regiment required to
improve his breathing. The cause of
death was chronic cardiopulmonary failure secondary to disease and infection. In short, his heart was dying the day we found him.
Biscuit died the way he lived – resting on his blanket on
the bed in front of the fireplace with my wife, though I have no doubt that in his mind he was defending the house and protecting his family. Fortunately, in the few moments we had with him before he passed, we got the chance
to tell him we loved him and that he was a good dog. With all my heart I hope he passed easily and hearing our voices.
It is said that Lhasas were bred to be sentinel dogs, alert, friendly, funny, intelligent little creatures that grow very attached to their families. Biscuit certainly was all that.
In the end, it is best that he went quickly and quietly, and with everything he loved all around him. Biscuit was indeed the sentinel of our house, and we will miss him very much.
Things won't be the same around here without him.
Posted by: Bust of Churchill / Blacksheep at February 05, 2011 11:56 AM (yWuYv)
Posted by: garret
Please explain.
Is this part of the list for Sunday ONT? Are there rules?
Posted by: someone who wants to get on the Sunday ONT list at February 05, 2011 11:56 AM (iB8CW)
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 03:37 PM (Ulu3i)
I'm really pissed off he was banned or decided to leave because I share your opinion of his impact on the level of discussion here.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 05, 2011 11:57 AM (eh+ki)
I don't know what's more disturbing in that pic. Barry's middle finger (again) and showing the soles of his shoes (again), the nitwit sitting next to him, or
all the beige. The freaking Oval Office looks like someone from K-Mart decorated it. That coffee table. The cheap-looking wooden bowl full of apples.
Oy.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 11:57 AM (UOM48)
And I'm pretty sure a bunch of us have!!!
Posted by: NC Ref at February 05, 2011 11:58 AM (/izg2)
I still can't figure out why they never put forth the logical and correct assertion that Saddam Hussein had been in violation of his surrender agreement since 30 days after he signed it, and under international law we had every right...and responsibility...to remove him from the Earth office.
Posted by: NC Ref at February 05, 2011 03:52 PM (/izg2)
Every fucking day, but does anyone remember? Nooooo.
Now they say it never happened.
Dude, they OPENED with that point, and made it repeatedly. I saw it happen. You can look up the transcripts.
I think the Bush Administration's second-term motto must have been "Why do we bother?"
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 11:58 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: USS Diversity at February 05, 2011 11:59 AM (DLxD/)
Saddam's Dangerous Friends
The Bush Administration failed the PR battle wrt to Iraq War by not publicizing these findings to the maximum extent possible.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 05, 2011 11:59 AM (C9Oua)
(sifty hates black people is a racist) FIFY
Posted by: rooter at February 05, 2011 11:59 AM (iB8CW)
{{{hugs}}}
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 12:01 PM (UOM48)
Here's a site with some great people who'll help you through it
www.aplb.org
Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2011 12:02 PM (vdfwz)
Posted by: Bust of Churchill / Blacksheep at February 05, 2011 03:56 PM (yWuYv)
I'm sorry for your loss. The kittehs and puppehs become like family members...and even closer sometimes. My kitteh was with me for 25 years when I lost her. Thanks for sharing your stories.
Posted by: NC Ref at February 05, 2011 12:02 PM (/izg2)
I had a Blind NY Governor attached to a post that I meant to remove him from.
...otherwise known as sockfail.
Posted by: garrett at February 05, 2011 12:02 PM (g11gl)
Things won't be the same around here without him.
Posted by: Bust of Churchill / Blacksheep at February 05, 2011 03:56 PMWith all the terrible shit in the world demanding our attention, we sometimes forget that animals are honest and faithful, that they care about us and stay loyal without bribes -- except small, fun bribes -- and preferential treatment.
They never ask much, and give more than they take.
I feel for you. I've been fortunate to have some fine dogs and cats, and still miss every one.
Remember this: for all the happiness he gave you, you gave him more.
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 12:03 PM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 03:55 PM (Ulu3i)
Problem is that sometimes the Shootout and twin 150's are better than the big race.
Posted by: PoconoJoe at February 05, 2011 12:03 PM (c4FgZ)
Things won't be the same around here without him.
Posted by: Bust of Churchill / Blacksheep at February 05, 2011 03:56 PM (yWuYv)
Damit, you made me cry.
'Specially since I had heart failure and it was mistaken for Pneumonia, I can empathize with he poor guy.
I'm glad he had you to take care of him.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 12:04 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: sifty at February 05, 2011 12:04 PM (oEV9E)
Posted by: Bust of Churchill / Blacksheep at February 05, 2011 03:56 PM (yWuYv)
I'd write more but the screen is a little blurry. So sorry for your loss. Long live Biscuit.
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 05, 2011 12:06 PM (XBM1t)
Gonna have to change God-parents now.
Posted by: sifty at February 05, 2011 04:03 PM (oEV9E)
It's okay, you can change parties to Democrat, then you can be a racist and no one will dare say anything about it.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 12:06 PM (bxiXv)
Gotcha. Well the fact the the world doesn't know this (or has conveniently chosen to forget) is exactly the PR failure you just mentioned. Aiding an enemy of this country is treason...did the MFM commit treason by deliberately obfuscating what should have been a clear-cut situation, thereby enabling Saddam Hussein for 20+ years?
Posted by: NC Ref at February 05, 2011 12:06 PM (/izg2)
Bust of Churchhill.
Be glad that you were such a good friend to your pup and remember him well. It's a horrible thing to lose a pet. My heart goes out to you.
Posted by: garrett at February 05, 2011 12:06 PM (g11gl)
It is said that Lhasas were bred to be sentinel dogs, alert, friendly, funny, intelligent little creatures that grow very attached to their families. Biscuit certainly was all that.
In the end, it is best that he went quickly and quietly, and with everything he loved all around him. Biscuit was indeed the sentinel of our house, and we will miss him very much.
Things won't be the same around here without him.
Posted by: Bust of Churchill / Blacksheep at February 05, 2011 03:56 PM (yWuYv)
My condolences to you. I've never had a Lhasa (I'm an Airedale person) but from what I can tell they're great dogs. At least Biscuit died at home surrounded by his family. An Airedale female, Emma, was rescued by our family as damaged goods. After a few years with us she stopped eating one day and started wasting away; I took her to the vets where they were going to do exploratory surgery and as soon as they put her under her heart just stopped. I still hate myself for not doing the right thing and putting her down with the people she loved with her; instead of feeling abandoned surrounded by strangers.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 05, 2011 12:06 PM (eh+ki)
Here is President Barack Obama's thinking on creating a healthy business environment: “If we make America the best place to do business, businesses should make their mark in America,” the president said. “They should set up shop here, and hire our workers, and pay decent wages, and invest in the future of this nation. That’s their obligation.”
Absolutely infuriating. This poseur has never had to make payroll or sweat out a paycheck a single say in his adult life, and he thinks he's qualified to dictate what businesses are obliged to do? I am so sick and tired of this statist, fascist prick I could puke on Moo-chelle's $540 sneakers.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 05, 2011 12:07 PM (OrJBb)
Posted by: NC Ref at February 05, 2011 04:02 PM
25 years? Man, that's wonderful. I've had two that made it to 18, and I thought that was pretty damn good for kittehs.
My Maltese puppeh lived 17 years (we think, as the vet said she was 11 when we rescued her).
Frankly, I wish they all lived longer than we do.
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 12:07 PM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: sifty at February 05, 2011 12:07 PM (oEV9E)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 05, 2011 12:07 PM (b6qrg)
His family said all their son talked about was how much he loved that dog. They asked for the dog, and were surprised when they were allowed to have him.
They live on a 100 acre ranch in S. Texas. Eli is home with them now, and will live out his days with their family. And they'll have their son's buddy who was with him as he died.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 12:07 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Bust of Churchill / Blacksheep at February 05, 2011 03:56 PM
You will meet again one day at Rainbow Bridge.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 05, 2011 12:07 PM (yQWNf)
Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2011 12:07 PM (uUYOW)
Posted by: 4rc at February 05, 2011 12:07 PM (YyoCO)
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 03:55 PM (Ulu3i)
Problem is that sometimes the Shootout and twin 150's are better than the big race.
Posted by: PoconoJoe at February 05, 2011 04:03 PM (c4FgZ)
Especially if Jimmie Johnson takes the lead.
Posted by: buzzion at February 05, 2011 12:09 PM (oVQFe)
Things won't be the same around here without him.
Posted by: Bust of Churchill / Blacksheep at February 05, 2011 03:56 PMAny of us who've had to bring home an empty carrier, see the empty dish, or see the empty spot they loved to sleep know the pain of the loss.
Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2011 12:10 PM (vdfwz)
Posted by: PoconoJoe at February 05, 2011 12:10 PM (c4FgZ)
Yeah mine was amazing. Someone dropped her in my yard when I was 10 years old ("please Mom can I keep her???") and then 20 years later, every time we had to go to the vet, she'd get patched up and come on home. She finally passed on when I was 35, having been with me for most of my life.
Posted by: NC Ref at February 05, 2011 12:11 PM (/izg2)
Especially if Jimmie Johnson takes the lead.
Posted by: buzzion at February 05, 2011 04:09 PM (oVQFe)
You had to mention that name.
Posted by: PoconoJoe at February 05, 2011 12:11 PM (c4FgZ)
Posted by: NC Ref at February 05, 2011 04:06 PM (/izg2)
That was Kratos that mentioned the PR failure, credit where credit etc.
Personally I think that it's not exactly a "PR failure" when the near enemy wins a victory, i.e. gets away with another lie. It's just not the right term, it was a MBM propaganda victory maybe.
And CNN was explicitly and admitted to helping cover the crimes of Saddam to help their bottom line. "Treason" may not be the right word, but it's the right idea.
I'm over-the-top disgusted with the left's dishonest behavior but there's nothing I can really do to stop it. If I could I would. I have too much to do just keeping everything from falling apart to actually figure out a way to stop the basic human tendency to do whatever it takes to win, including lying, cheating and stealing.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 12:13 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: movie watcher at February 05, 2011 12:13 PM (iB8CW)
It's okay, you can change parties to Democrat, then you can be a racist and no one will dare say anything about it.
Don't I know it!
Those things catch up with you though. Good thing I've got my old buddy Teddy and his racist anti Semitic daddy for company!
Posted by: zombie Robert Byrd at February 05, 2011 12:13 PM (vdfwz)
You had to mention that name.
Posted by: PoconoJoe at February 05, 2011 04:11 PM (c4FgZ)
Yup, needed to suck out all the personality and emotion.
Posted by: buzzion at February 05, 2011 12:13 PM (oVQFe)
I'm so sorry. You wrote a moving tribute to a pup that was clearly part of the family.
I never fail to be overwhelmed at the joy a dog or cat can bring to a family.
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 12:13 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Alex at February 05, 2011 12:14 PM (kwNeL)
Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2011 04:10 PM
Long after my little ones had gotten over the pain of the loss of our first Weimaraner, I experienced guilt over whether I made the right decision to put her down. I can think about it now 5 years out and can still feel palpable sadness. She was a great girl.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 05, 2011 12:14 PM (yQWNf)
Problem is that sometimes the Shootout and twin 150's are better than the big race.
Posted by: PoconoJoe at February 05, 2011 04:03 PMTrue dat, but as a road-racing fan whose appreciation for NASCAR came late -- long and somewhat complicated story -- I like the Shootout and Twin 150s for different reasons.
A good Daytona 500 is almost a ballet, where drafting is everything and it takes great skill to know when to make a move. The shorter races are plain, old-fashioned racin'.
Not saying one is better than the other. I'm there for all.
Okay, so I wish more of the season was run at tracks like Bristol, but that's because the drivers' Big Brass Ones are really on display there.
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 12:15 PM (Ulu3i)
The movie, "Broken Trail" just started on AMC at 4:00. It's a really good movie, long, 4 hours. Robert Duvall is really great in it.
I know a young mealy mouth little lefty twat who says that she just can't watch westerns because: "Everybody's wearing guns in them".
Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2011 12:15 PM (uUYOW)
We found the WMDs, just not all of them (the rest were hauled away when we moved in, according to captured intel, the generals responsible).
The fucking UN whined at us publicly because we hauled tons and tons of the shit out of there and didn't give it to ElBaradei so he could give it to the fucking Iranians.
The admin pointed it out at the time, but the fucking MFM and the fucking Democrats have been lying about it ever since. If you can figure out a way to fire the MFM and the Democrats for being a bunch of lying fucksticks, please let us all know.
Until then, for the love of God, please,
PLEASE stop cooperating with the lying assholes. You're gonna give me a
fucking aneurysm.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 02:05 PM (bxiXv)
Before we disposed of the TONS of yellowcake found in Iraq we were the bad guys because the poor, uneducated ppl were killing themselves by playing with this new toy -- a strange, yellow powder that we left behind as we stormed across the desert..After it was pointed out as a possible source for dirty bombs, yellowcake suddenly became as benign as play sand.
And that reminds me of the depleted uranium anti-tank ammunition. It was a horrible carcinogen during Gulf War I. When it was used in the Kosovo (Clinton's penis) war NPR ran a long piece about how benign it was. When W fought a war using it it suddenly became !!!***TOXIC-TOXIC-TOXIC***!!! again.
And then there was that asshole Jamie Shea constantly showing aerial photographs of thousands of graves shafts *individually* excavated by the Serbs. Multiple tens of thousands were supposedly buried in them. After over a decade, less than 6,000 supposed victims of "ethnic cleansing" (don't get me wrong -- I'm no fan of that ethnic cleansing shit) have been found. And all in mass graves.
The media never investigated this bullshit because they they were 100% behind the war. In fact, it's been called the first media driven war.
NPR even made up a tall tale about why the bodies weren't recovered. They claimed the bodies were cremated in a lead smelting plant. And there was an elaborate plan to bring the bodies to the smelter by closing down roads and using ambulances.
The kicker is --> the conveyor belt into the lead smelting furnace was only two feet wide and the opening was only six inches high. The size for typical crushed ore.
George Soros now owns that lead smelting plant, BTW.
Posted by: Ed Anger at February 05, 2011 12:16 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 04:13 PM (bxiXv)
Yep. Newsletter. And why Evan Thomas wasn't charged with something after admitting CNN broadcast the Hussein government's press releases as fact in order to "maintain access" is part of the problem.
Posted by: NC Ref at February 05, 2011 12:16 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: movie watcher at February 05, 2011 04:13 PM (iB8CW)
I think it's a really good movie. Beautiful scenery and a different story for a western. And, as I said, Duvall is so good.
Posted by: PoconoJoe at February 05, 2011 12:16 PM (c4FgZ)
Posted by: Toonces The Driving Cat
aaawwwww....don't do that to the kittehs
Posted by: cat lover at February 05, 2011 12:16 PM (iB8CW)
A punitive expedition works for me. It's cheaper, too.
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 05, 2011 12:17 PM (nD3Pg)
Posted by: mary sighs at February 05, 2011 12:17 PM (iB8CW)
If we make America the best place to do business...
A tacit admission that under his "leadership" America is not currently the best place to do business.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 05, 2011 12:18 PM (aLiVy)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 04:07 PM (UOM4
You people are doing terrible things to my eyes.
I lost my bestest friend in the whole world ever six years ago and I couldn't do a thing about it and when things like this come up I get all bleary-eyed or worse.
There were a few times he was my only friend and I'll never get over that.
Damit.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 12:18 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Jimmy Stimph at February 05, 2011 12:19 PM (zVOB7)
I only had my Bella (Clark Gable, in formal) for three years and lost him in June. There isn't a single day that goes by that I don't think of him. He was handicapped but you would never have known it from his determination. My mother called him her "little hero" and the neighbor called him an inspiration.
A cat. A hero? An inspiration?
Yep.
God, I do miss that little punkin-head.
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 12:20 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Presdident Fly Guy at February 05, 2011 12:20 PM (HpfhQ)
Posted by: Speller at February 05, 2011 12:22 PM (J74Py)
Any of us who've had to bring home an empty carrier, see the empty dish, or see the empty spot they loved to sleep know the pain of the loss.
Every. Fucking. Day.
It never gets better. You just get more and more used to it.
Posted by: garrett at February 05, 2011 12:24 PM (g11gl)
Yep. Newsletter. And why Evan
Thomas wasn't charged with something after admitting CNN broadcast the
Hussein government's press releases as fact in order to "maintain
access" is part of the problem.
That was actually Eason Jordan, but I second your wish. Hell, I second it for Evan Thomas too for all the dangerous myths and falsehoods he foisted on the public with Newsweak, his nadir proclaiming "We're All Socialists Now" and saying on TV that Barry was "sort of a god"
Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2011 12:26 PM (vdfwz)
Posted by: mary sighs at February 05, 2011 04:17 PM (iB8CW)
"tweezers" Isn't that that website?
Posted by: Lunch bucket Joe Biden at February 05, 2011 12:26 PM (c4FgZ)
I think that was coined by progressoverpeace, a former commenter here (and, from what I recall, one pretty smart dude).
I keep meaning to steal it. Now that I've absorbed Ace's "MBM," I'll work on it again.
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 03:37 PM (Ulu3i)
I'm really pissed off he was
banned or decided to leave because I share your opinion of his impact on
the level of discussion here.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 05, 2011 03:57 PM (eh+ki)
Take a good look at iknowtheleft. If it's not him then that's a world class mimic.
Posted by: ontherocks at February 05, 2011 12:26 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 04:20 PM (piMMO)
Okay, now you've done it, now I can't see and I have to go wipe my face off.
You people keep this up and I'm gonna have to take a "mental health day."
....
I can't, literally can't go into a Pet Smart where they have pet adoptions and if I see someone with a box of kittens in front of a store I have to go to another store or I'll end up with 30 cats.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 12:27 PM (bxiXv)
We had two kittehs who lived to be 18, and had to be put down within three months of each other. Our son had grown up with them. It's been seven years, and I still miss them.
The two we have now are purrfect (I denounce myself). They've filled a void with our kid gone. One of them holds her "arms" up to be picked up and held. She especially loves men, even ones she's never met. It's hilarious to see some guy come over who goes, "Great. Cats. Sigh." and have her want to be held by him.
I really wish they could live forever.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 12:27 PM (UOM48)
Heh. Thanks for correcting me. The brain/memory doesn't always work like I think it should.
Posted by: NC Ref at February 05, 2011 12:29 PM (/izg2)
Three round, large holes in the clouds.
Posted by: momma at February 05, 2011 04:26 PM (penCf)
We see them periodically here in OK, expecially with that kind of cloud layer. No big deal.
Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2011 12:32 PM (uUYOW)
We had two kittehs who lived to be 18, and had to be put down within three months of each other. Our son had grown up with them. It's been seven years, and I still miss them.
On Sept 12, 2008 I had to rush one of the sister cats I had to the vet when she could barely stand up and she was losing weight at a frightening rate. She had cancer of the liver and had to be put to sleep. 24 days later, I had to have her sister put to sleep due to a large malignant tumor in her intestines and rapid weight loss.
A month before my office closed, beginning a long period of unemployment, the economy collapsed, and the Great Pretender was handed the keys to the White House door.
I started becoming a regular here at AoS, my fellow morons have helped me get through a lot of shit
Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2011 12:35 PM (vdfwz)
Take a good look at iknowtheleft. If it's not him then that's a world class mimic.
Posted by: ontherocks at February 05, 2011 04:26 PM (HBqDo)
Yeah I've thought that but didn't want to potentially blow his cover
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 05, 2011 12:35 PM (eh+ki)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 12:39 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 05, 2011 12:40 PM (XBM1t)
Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2011 04:35 PM (vdfwz)
Dude. Me too. And even when i just lurked, knowing what the other morons were doing and thinking gave me a little optimism and laughter when I needed it.
Posted by: NC Ref at February 05, 2011 12:41 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: Speller at February 05, 2011 12:42 PM (J74Py)
God, I do miss that little punkin-head.
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 04:20 PM (piMMO)
Awww... that is so sweet.
Posted by: Timbo at February 05, 2011 12:45 PM (ph9vn)
Posted by: Eliazah Franklin at February 05, 2011 12:45 PM (zVOB7)
I'm waiting for his Cardigan by the Fireplace moment
His puppeteers won't be dumb enough to actually put him in a cardigan, but you know the "America sucks and it's YOUR fault for not appreciating my genius" is coming.
Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2011 12:45 PM (vdfwz)
Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2011 12:46 PM (uUYOW)
Yeah I've thought that but didn't want to potentially blow his cover
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 05, 2011 04:35 PM (eh+ki)
Like a lot of people here, that guy's a rare specimen, thus incapable of true cover.Either way he's a feisty, well informed hoot. Earlier today he blurted "that's what really gets me", as if there only that one thing.
Posted by: ontherocks at February 05, 2011 12:47 PM (HBqDo)
In an unprecedented and controversial move, the White House has launched a new program at the Department of Labor which will refer workers who have complaints about their bosses to a toll free number at the American Bar Association, where they can get a lawyer to work on their case on a contingency fee basis.
Is Barry going to call up to bitch about Soros?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 05, 2011 12:47 PM (aLiVy)
Posted by: Speller at February 05, 2011 04:42 PM (J74Py)
I was kinda thinking more of a Mir moment but well, you know.
Posted by: ErikW at February 05, 2011 12:47 PM (HpfhQ)
Posted by: Speller at February 05, 2011 04:42 PM (J74Py)
I was kinda thinking more of a Mir moment but well, you know.
Posted by: ErikW at February 05, 2011 04:47 PM (HpfhQ)
I was thinking more of a Soyuz 1 moment, but I'm not very charitable about Bammy's policies.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 12:53 PM (bxiXv)
And even when i just lurked, knowing what the other morons were doing and thinking gave me a little optimism and laughter when I needed it.
Snark is good for the soul.
Posted by: Mother Abigail Freemantle at February 05, 2011 12:54 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Bust of Churchill / Blacksheep at February 05, 2011 03:56 PM
Thanks for sharing that.
We got a dog a few months back...Gonzo the Ridiculous. The wife finally relented after after me badgering her for years. She was always a cat woman . Our kitty Doofus is 18 now.
The dog's a rescue mutt...kinda odd looking, but people think she's she some sort of purebred. She has THE most awesome pesonality...and doesn't know a stranger...animal or human.
I have her with me as much as possible. I'm already thinking about how hard it will be when she goes
Posted by: beedubya at February 05, 2011 12:56 PM (AnTyA)
I envy our two kittehs, curled up on our bed, warm and snuggly. And unaware of just how fucked we all are.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 12:56 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 04:56 PM
I really envy them that
Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2011 12:58 PM (vdfwz)
From the Uberstahmpollster, via Tepid Air;
Rasmussen: Bounce gone, strong disapproval back to 40%
Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2011 01:01 PM (vdfwz)
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 04:20 PM (piMMO)
Don't mean to be insensitive..but what the hell was wrong with your cat in that video?
Posted by: beedubya at February 05, 2011 01:02 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2011 05:01 PM
I don't have to fool ALL the people ALL the time, just 51 percent of them
Posted by: King Barry I at February 05, 2011 01:03 PM (vdfwz)
Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2011 01:06 PM (vdfwz)
Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2011 05:06 PM (vdfwz)
I wouldn't say Mark Levin, but I know what you mean.
Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2011 01:10 PM (uUYOW)
Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2011 04:46 PM (uUYOW)
We lost our dog last summer. I put that dog through 3 surgeries because I couldnt put him down. He died after the 3rd surgery.
Its awful. I still cant get rid of his dog food and its been 6 months.
Posted by: Timbo at February 05, 2011 01:12 PM (ph9vn)
Oh they know. They know.
Who do you think planned all this chaos anyway?
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 01:14 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Barry Obama at February 05, 2011 01:14 PM (zVOB7)
Oh they know. They know.
Who do you think planned all this chaos anyway?
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 05:14 PM
wate till wee runz the kampz
Posted by: teh kittehs at February 05, 2011 01:16 PM (vdfwz)
Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2011 05:06 PM (vdfwz)
Based on your comment I had to click the otherwise dormant bookmark and check it out for myself. Malkin adds another eunuch to her harem of mincemeats.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 05, 2011 01:16 PM (eh+ki)
You're not being insensitive to ask, just illiterate (just kidding). He was handicapped by a shrunken cerebellum which reduced his control over his motor functions. His sister died a few days after birth because she couldn't even feed herself. He, however, just refused to give up. Every time the vet said that he would never be able to do something, he learned to do it anyway.
And..when he was wound up, he was just about the fastest cat I ever saw. It was the darnedest thing, he couldn't walk straight but could run like lightning for a short distance.
A sprinter, he.
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 01:18 PM (piMMO)
Oh commercials?
The funniest one I've seen in some time.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 05, 2011 03:44 PM (mo4o3)
It made me laugh- one of the contenders for the best of the Super Bowl [although I haven't seen any other contenders]
Merovign and Ed Anger, thank you for the information you have shared about Iraq today. I appreciate having specifics to add to my arsenal of arguments.
Posted by: Museisluse at February 05, 2011 01:18 PM (u/Nbu)
Don't mean to be insensitive..but what the hell was wrong with your cat in that video?
Posted by: beedubya at February 05, 2011 05:02 PM (AnTyA)
Read the text below the video (you have to hit the chevron button to see it all). It's a congenital balance disorder, I've seen it a few times.
Just imagine going through life constantly severely dizzy. Now imagine the determination it takes to make it like that.
Damit, now I got something in my eye again.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 01:21 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Cleopatra's Cat at February 05, 2011 01:22 PM (piMMO)
Geoff. I got to thinking while driving around in my gas guzzling SUV smoking a ceegar this afternoon. The only "obligation" businesses have are to their investors i.e. stockholders. It is their fiduciary duty to maximize profits within the scope of good-faith and fair dealing.
It is Obama's "obligation" to ensure the proper business environment is in place so investors will maximize their businesses inside the United States in accordance with their fiduciary duties to those that have invested capital.
Posted by: journolist at February 05, 2011 01:22 PM (iHfo1)
Posted by: ya2daup at February 05, 2011 01:23 PM (7YHLb)
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — Police in Kentucky have charged a Pennsylvania man with drunken driving after he blew a .333 on a Breathalyzer test
The arrest report says they smelled alcohol and found an empty bottle of Early Times bourbon.
Hope it wasn't one of my buddies.
Posted by: PoconoJoe at February 05, 2011 01:25 PM (c4FgZ)
I'm so sorry Churchill, I know exactly how hard it is to lose a pet.
Posted by: Tami-unban Nickless (99.174.64.43) at February 05, 2011 01:27 PM (VuLos)
They should, but they won't. A, too many big businesses want a role in influencing government regulations as to rig the game to benefit themselves and drive their competitors out of business. B, Obama, being the man-child he is, would crush businesses that step out of line further under the heel of government regulations.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 05, 2011 01:28 PM (C9Oua)
Based on your comment I had to
click the otherwise dormant bookmark and check it out for myself.
Malkin adds another eunuch to her harem of mincemeats.
To be fair to MM, she sold HA off last year, and it's now owned by Townhall
Posted by: teh kittehs at February 05, 2011 01:34 PM (vdfwz)
Merovign and Ed Anger, thank you for the information you have shared about Iraq today. I appreciate having specifics to add to my arsenal of arguments.
Posted by: Museisluse at February 05, 2011 05:18 PM (u/Nbu)
I'm sorry I didn't provide a lot of links but I'm tired today. A lot of my old archived links are dead. American Thinker did a lot of research and have some link-heavy articles. You can track them down easily and bookmark some links (I hate tinyURL anyway, those are my excuses and I'm sticking to them). I used to have the UN declaration complaining that we removed the WMDs instead of letting them have them linked (at the UN's site) but the link is dead now.
The leftist strategy works, just keep telling lies until people are too tired to correct you and declare victory.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 01:36 PM (bxiXv)
Damit, now I got something in my eye again.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 05:21 PM (bxiXv)
Dang.. me too.
Posted by: Timbo at February 05, 2011 01:37 PM (ph9vn)
This thread is old and worn out. I know it's the weekend, but sheesh. I'll check back later.
Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2011 01:37 PM (ktzGw)
Things won't be the same around here without him.
Posted by: Bust of Churchill / Blacksheep at February 05, 2011 03:56 PM
I'm so sorry. We lost our beloved golden retriever, Bud, on Christmas Eve several years ago. I cried like a baby, and I'm not ashamed to admit it. I still think about him every day.
I hope this helps:
Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge.
When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge.
There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together.
There is plenty of food, water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable.
All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor; those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by.
The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing; they each miss someone very special to them, who had to be left behind.
They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent; His eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to run from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster.
You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart.
Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together....
Author unknown...
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 05, 2011 01:41 PM (aLiVy)
Author unknown...
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 05, 2011 05:41 PM (aLiVy)
There is a rainbow bridge website that you can post a tribute to your pet.
Its pretty sweet.
Posted by: Timbo at February 05, 2011 01:44 PM (ph9vn)
Posted by: teh kittehs at February 05, 2011 05:34 PM (vdfwz)
Good point; my bad. I'll hold fire the next time she does something to piss me off which shouldn't take too long.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 05, 2011 01:49 PM (eh+ki)
[Laughter]
Â…because the spores in the South Atlantic Ocean, you know, were. Look, everything is, itÂ’s a religion. In a religion, everything is explicable. In science, you can actually deny or falsify a proposition with evidence. You find me a single piece of evidence that Al Gore would ever admit would contradict global warming and IÂ’ll be surprised.
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 05, 2011 01:49 PM (tvs2p)
A word to the wise...if Dave shows up wanting to wager on the Super Bowl.
...don't do it.
He saw it last week so he already knows how it turns out
Posted by: beedubya at February 05, 2011 01:53 PM (AnTyA)
Dang.. me too.
One of the many reasons I dig AoSHQ is that the commentariat seems largely composed of kitteh- and puppeh-owners. Even when someone brings sad news (Whatever) or says something that really resonates with me (like Merovign, I can't get near a pet adoption without picking out 30 kittehs and/or tearing up) I somehow feel comfortable here.
Does more to keep me happy than lesbian prOn and Valu-Rite.
BTW: Isn't "Jazz Shaw" some tight buddyroo of "Poppin' Fresh?" I remember the "Captain" linking to him even more than he did to David Frum, and I think he did some time in the TepidAir Groan Room before hitting the Big Time.
Sic Semper Squishus.
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 01:54 PM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: Socratease at February 05, 2011 01:58 PM (C4vAK)
Posted by: MrScribbler's Proctologist at February 05, 2011 01:58 PM (p6fOG)
Wonder Lab is laying her head on my lap as I type this. We've been owned by her for 3 years now--a very strict but loving dog.
Anyway, just wished to say it's been my experience that humans could take lessons in friendship and loyalty from dogs
Plus most are smarter than politicians.....
Posted by: irongrampa at February 05, 2011 02:01 PM (ud5dN)
I still cant get rid of his dog food and its been 6 months.
It was the opposite for me--couldn't bear looking at the half-empty sack of 'crunchies' and the cans...Her (old and nearly toothless) Majesty's favorite treats...
None of my cat-owner friends wanted the smelly canned food or plain clay litter, but the animal shelter gladly accepted all that was left.
Posted by: Stillwater at February 05, 2011 02:01 PM (0GpN4)
Author unknown...
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 05, 2011 05:41 PM (aLiVy)
Damn you Jay! I thought I was going to get through this thread without pulling out the copy that sits with my kitteh.
*wipes away tears*
Thanks.
Posted by: NC Ref at February 05, 2011 02:01 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: Stillwater at February 05, 2011 06:01 PM (0GpN4)
I should take it all there.
Ugh.
Posted by: Timbo at February 05, 2011 02:15 PM (ph9vn)
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 05:54 PM (Ulu3i)
Its a good group of morons.
Posted by: Timbo at February 05, 2011 02:18 PM (ph9vn)
Posted by: Stillwater at February 05, 2011 06:01 PM (0GpN4)
I should take it all there.
Ugh.
That's what I did when my last kitteh passed away. It hurt, a lot, but there was a little consolation in knowing other kittehs would eat.
I did, however, keep his scratching post, toys and food bowls around the place for a couple of years.
Still miss the little guy.
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 02:19 PM (Ulu3i)
Sorry for your loss, Timbo. It's tough to let go, and not having their "stuff" around can increase that indescribable emptiness.
Take your time & try to take heart. Maybe you'll find a new friend at the shelter?
Posted by: Stillwater at February 05, 2011 02:20 PM (0GpN4)
Anderson Cooper tweeted that he's leaving Egypt.
I guess it wasn't as fabulous as he thought it would be
Posted by: beedubya at February 05, 2011 02:22 PM (AnTyA)
Last fall a mother and 4 kittens took up squatter's rights in an old, delapidated house on the back of our property. When the kits started coming out to play, I started to sneak them food on the sly.[We can barely afford the 2 strays that adopted us, one cat and one dog, now best friends btw and I didn't want to hear hubby grumble.]
Then came the cold and snow. So I snuck out back and stapled plastic over the doors and windows and made myself crawl in and not be a scaredy-cat of going through the floor, to feed them. Once a week I make the trek.
Now the snow is waist deep in some places. 2 weeks ago they predicted 50 below windchills and I knew my old bones wouldn't make it out there, so I filled 2 dishpans with food and made a cathouse and then dragged it all out there and pushed it and me in to the frigid house.
Today, after many nights of worrying if my kittens survived I stumbled out there and what did I see, but, my favorite kitten sitting on an old tire with a look on her/his face that plainly said where the he!! have you been! I didn't see the others but they are all very skittish. If one survived, then they all did.
Animals .... God's gift to humans ; )
Posted by: Carolyn at February 05, 2011 02:22 PM (NYjsM)
Posted by: USA at February 05, 2011 02:23 PM (YZISw)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 02:26 PM (BPptn)
Maybe someone could try his hand at motivating a new thread?
We just re-purposed this one, because we all knew that Obama Tries His Hand at Motivating Businesses was destined to die young. Like so many pets.....
Posted by: Stillwater at February 05, 2011 02:29 PM (0GpN4)
As long as you're not planning to insult our animal friends by comparing them the Mohammedan Mouthpiece, git it on, Sooth....
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 02:29 PM (Ulu3i)
Let's face it: without animals -- primarily dogs and cats -- this thread is as dead as a "Poppin' Fresh" poll dissection....
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 02:31 PM (Ulu3i)
Univ. of Georgia's UGA VIII died yesterday of lymphoma. Only nine months old.
Ga. Tech fan here, but I'm sad for the Seiler family who've owned all the Ugas. They've been breeding the dogs for years.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 02:33 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 02:33 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 02:34 PM (BPptn)
Animals .... God's gift to humans ; )
Posted by: Carolyn at February 05, 2011 06:22 PM (NYjsM)
You're a good person, Carolyn.
Posted by: Tami-unban Nickless (99.174.64.43) at February 05, 2011 02:34 PM (VuLos)
I can't believe Daley let obama make these idiotic comments. I thought obama was finally getting some adult supervision. I guess not.
The CoC should laugh him out of the room.
Posted by: carolina at February 05, 2011 02:35 PM (FXiHS)
Zephyrhills did the same thing but then went back and added a more solid ring around the middle which helped. Now, they've added these teensy little bottle caps that you can barely unscrew.
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 02:35 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 05, 2011 02:36 PM (eh+ki)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 02:36 PM (BPptn)
Who are you kidding. You know he'd be there even if he'd named the dog Bob.
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 02:37 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 02:37 PM (5ql/p)
It's barely one thread! Ridiculous.
No! I can never get them on straight. They fixed the thin bottle thing and then screwed up the cap.
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 02:39 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 02:39 PM (UOM48)
Yeah but you know what they say about Satan loving to fuck with people's minds.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 05, 2011 02:40 PM (eh+ki)
If Andy Rooney ever goes off on bottled water, you'll be able to sue him for plagiarism.
You know what pisses me off? Those cheesy little plastic boxes baked goods are sold in.
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 02:40 PM (Ulu3i)
This should make up for it.
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 06:33 PM (piMMO)
You're KILLING me over here.
I just want to hug and cuddle that cat until I can't stand it anymore, which is never.
But your Bella and my Ash are gone now.
BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
I know, we try to remember the good things.
Bella did a 180 in about 1 frame of video there.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 02:41 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 02:41 PM (5ql/p)
The rest of the world already has.
I really have trouble accepting that obama's handlers let him say something this stupid. I'm still amazed.
Posted by: carolina at February 05, 2011 02:41 PM (FXiHS)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 02:42 PM (5ql/p)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 02:42 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 06:34 PM (BPptn)
The new, environmentally-friendly dribble glass.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 02:43 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 02:43 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 02:43 PM (5ql/p)
The Twilight Zone - The Hunt
(Be sure you have a handkerchief handy.)
Posted by: stuiec at February 05, 2011 02:44 PM (EjyHt)
I wish the entire CoC would stand up, turn their backs on Barry, and walk out of the room.
I don't know how they will be able to keep a straight face....... or avoid showing their utter disgust. I bet Daley gets an earful.
Posted by: carolina at February 05, 2011 02:44 PM (FXiHS)
Whoa.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 02:44 PM (UOM48)
Yep.Not bad.
What I really miss from Pepperidge Farm, however, is their cornmeal pancake mix.
It was the best!
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 02:44 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 05, 2011 06:36 PM (eh+ki)
What, are you kidding? Kennedy was probably declared "employee of the month" when he got there.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 02:44 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 02:44 PM (5ql/p)
Don't know about Entemann's (I'm on a restricted budget here, not having access to Obama's Stash) but the local markets sell cookies in transparent boxes that flatten under the weight of, say, a small package of kitchen sponges.
And they have little tabs on the edge that require a strong pull to open. End result: cookies -- albeit cheap, on-sale ones -- flying across the room.
My kittehs would have enjoyed that. They liked cookies.
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 02:45 PM (Ulu3i)
On the bright side what with me banning domestic oil exploration, I've got gas over $3 now. That will help the economy.
Posted by: B. H. Obama at February 05, 2011 02:46 PM (srmf8)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 02:46 PM (5ql/p)
Google anything on Sandra Lee, especially at Bravo's Television Without Pity. Those shrikes over there are as funny as the moronettes here.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 02:46 PM (UOM48)
How is everyone lovin' America on RR's Birthday, do y'all think it's time to impeach this treasonist cockholster?
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at February 05, 2011 02:46 PM (B6aeI)
Ok, ON-topic:
“If we wanted to make America the best place to do business, businesses should make their mark in congress would pass legislation that actually helped America,” the president precedent said. “They should set up shop here, and hire our workers, and pay decent wages, and invest in the future of this nation. That’s their obligation.”
There. Fix'd.
Posted by: Stillwater at February 05, 2011 02:47 PM (0GpN4)
Later.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 02:49 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at February 05, 2011 02:49 PM (B6aeI)
Ever tried Sweet Sue chicken and dumplings?
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 02:49 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 02:49 PM (5ql/p)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 06:46 PM (5ql/p)
Hey, after out shoveling snow in about 0 degree weather, nothing like some hot Dinty Moore Stew!
Posted by: HH at February 05, 2011 02:50 PM (6oDXl)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 02:50 PM (BPptn)
What I'd like better: “If we wanted to make America the best place to do business, businesses should make their mark in congress would pass repeal legislation that actually helped hurts America,” the president resigning precedent said before posting bail. “They should set up shop here, and hire our workers, and pay decent wages, and invest in the future of this nation. That’s their obligation.”
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 02:51 PM (Ulu3i)
It's so close to homemade it would be difficult to justify the extra effort.
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 02:51 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 06:43 PM (piMMO)
Pitch black. The name was from a book I was reading when I found Ash, as a kitten, with an injured foot, hiding between discarded layers of insulation in the snow.
None of the neighbors in that rural area had any idea where he came from.
I think he was thrown out of a car and made it a few hundred yards up the hill in the snow to my house. Or one of my neighbors was lying, which is not too far-fetched.
Either way, that's how he found me.
The full name was Ashtaroth Underfoot (because he was always underfoot - I got used to it). He suffered total kidney failure 5 years later... and the vet scratched his head for years when he talked about how Ash survived. Lived 9 more years. He said the kidneys started working again "like magic."
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 02:51 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: dagny at February 05, 2011 02:54 PM (6HG/9)
Anderson Cooper tweeted that he's leaving Egypt.
I guess it wasn't as fabulous as he thought it would be
Posted by: beedubya at February 05, 2011 06:22 PM (AnTyA)
You'd think the dipshit would have gotten a clue after spending his 20's-30's in Chechnya getting shot at.
Posted by: buzzion at February 05, 2011 02:54 PM (oVQFe)
If it's the hot Hormel chili, yeah. That's good stuff, especially with some Tabasco dribbled in.
The regular stuff, not so much.
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 02:54 PM (Ulu3i)
I can't get near a pet adoption without picking out 30 kittehs and/or tearing up
I can't go back to Pet Smart because they have kittens! That's where we got our Lucy and now I can't shop there.
We want to get a dog. Gotta get the fence fixed, but I should be able to do that next month or so.
But I worry about getting a dog from a shelter, because they aren't always the nice friendly breed they are supposed to be...that and I believe that a dog should go for at least one walk a day, but that will be more difficult with my husband overseas. Yes, I can drag the kids with me, or send the oldest, but I'm just not sure...
Posted by: Mama AJ, OverThinker at February 05, 2011 02:55 PM (XdlcF)
Posted by: texette at February 05, 2011 02:55 PM (8sD9j)
Posted by: dagny at February 05, 2011 02:55 PM (6HG/9)
Posted by: journolist at February 05, 2011 02:56 PM (iHfo1)
Barack Obama: As American as Apple Pie and Ronald Reagan
There is a little sticker on his yellow back that say Made in China.
Posted by: sTevo at February 05, 2011 02:56 PM (VMcEw)
Thank you, Tami.
I also have a little abandoned doe? that comes every night at dusk for a bite to eat. I'll be in BIG trouble if the rest of the 200+ herd, that's in town trying to find food, hears about me. Hope those darn kittens didn't spread the word that I'm a push-over.
Posted by: Carolyn at February 05, 2011 02:57 PM (NYjsM)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at February 05, 2011 02:57 PM (B6aeI)
Posted by: USA at February 05, 2011 02:57 PM (YZISw)
Posted by: dagny at February 05, 2011 02:57 PM (6HG/9)
Dinty Morres' Chicken and Dumplings.
Just like Grandma made. If she was cooking for several million people of course...
Posted by: HH at February 05, 2011 02:57 PM (6oDXl)
“If we wanted to make America the best place to do business, businesses should make their mark in congress would pass repeal legislation that actually helped hurts America,” the president resigning convicted precedent said before posting bail. as he was escorted to prison. “They should set up shop here, and hire our workers, and pay decent wages, and invest in the future of this nation. "That’s their obligation.”
Re-fix'd. Heh.
Posted by: Stillwater at February 05, 2011 02:57 PM (0GpN4)
Don't you mean Kenya, dude?
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 02:58 PM (Ulu3i)
And, your last vid of Bella made me cry again. She sure was fast, though.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 02:58 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 02:58 PM (/ebqR)
In my humble opinion, I think that Obama ...
... I don't know what to think. I've been playing Asteroids all day.
Posted by: FireHorse at February 05, 2011 02:59 PM (sWynj)
Wow!
I'm going to take a shot that it was the power of prayer.
When you go through something like that with a pet you are bonded with them for life.
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 02:59 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 03:00 PM (Ulu3i)
They will do that, you know.
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 03:00 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: USA at February 05, 2011 03:00 PM (YZISw)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at February 05, 2011 03:00 PM (B6aeI)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 03:01 PM (/ebqR)
You'd think the dipshit would have gotten a clue after spending his 20's-30's in Chechnya getting shot at.
Don't you just love how journalists like Anderson Cooper are making what is happening in Egypt all about themselves?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 05, 2011 03:01 PM (C9Oua)
Posted by: Oklahoman at February 05, 2011 03:02 PM (mEzhr)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 03:02 PM (/ebqR)
If it has run of the backyard, it will get exercise chasing squirrels. It's the companionship they need and I know you would never be one of those folks who simply dumps the poor creature in the backyard and forgets about it. So, you'll make a wonderful new mom to some grateful pound puppy.
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 03:03 PM (piMMO)
If the Red Chinese want to build Obama One, I'm down with that.
For our next real president, though, we'll need a real American helicopter.
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 03:03 PM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: Carolyn at February 05, 2011 06:57 PM (NYjsM)
Lol! Yeah, you could be in big trouble.
Posted by: Tami-unban Nickless (99.174.64.43) at February 05, 2011 03:04 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 03:04 PM (/ebqR)
My vote goes to the deli at Walmart. Great pizza and great prices.
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 03:04 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: dagny at February 05, 2011 06:55 PM (6HG/9)
I doubt I finished anything, people who hold absurd positions don't get there by reason, and you know what they say about positions not arrived at by reason.
I guess I just needed to blow off some steam. I used to have about a hundred links on the subject I would post in online arguments, but not a SINGLE idiot ever addressed anything substantive once I posted them, they'd either go somewhere else with the same argument, or say it was all propaganda (yeah, the UN propagandizes for the US), or just change the subject.
If you don't know by now that we had dozens of other reasons for pursuing that campaign and we recovered WMDs as part of it, you never will, because it ain't because of a lack of facts.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 03:04 PM (bxiXv)
Her surgery to save her could have added a wing to the vet's hospital, but eight years later she's beautiful, healthy, happy and feisty. Weighs about six pounds, and occasionally whips her sixteen lb. "little" adopted sister (from PetSmart).
Whenever we get to talk to our boy, he wants to know how his "babies" are. I think he misses them as much (or more) than us.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 03:05 PM (UOM48)
What the hell is wrong with people!
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 03:06 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: USA at February 05, 2011 03:07 PM (YZISw)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at February 05, 2011 03:07 PM (B6aeI)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 03:08 PM (waTiq)
it's damn good -- well worth the on-sale price of $6-7.
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 07:01 PM (/ebqR)
Now you got my dauber up, as Coach Tressel would say (and whatever the hell that means.)
DiGiorno's is by far the worst pizza of any kind, any where. If I want a giant disk of chewy dough with pizza flavoring, I'll go with DiGiorno's.
If I have to go frozen, I go Red Baron. Thinnish crust, decent amount of toppings although it used to be heavier on the sauce and topping some years ago.
Posted by: ErikW at February 05, 2011 03:08 PM (HpfhQ)
I'm going to take a shot that it was the power of prayer.
When you go through something like that with a pet you are bonded with them for life.
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 06:59 PM (piMMO)
The doc said the pets often don't remember people right away after something that traumatic, they brough him out and as soon as he saw me he twisted in the lady's arms and extended both front paws at me with a "help! get me out of here!" look on his face. He landed on my left shoulder and wouldn't let go, even when we got in the car.
After that he always wanted to be on my left shoulder.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 03:08 PM (bxiXv)
I know you would never be one of those folks who simply dumps the poor creature in the backyard and forgets about it. So, you'll make a wonderful new mom to some grateful pound puppy.
Ah, crap, now I have to do it.
Posted by: Mama AJ, who just has something in her eye at February 05, 2011 03:08 PM (XdlcF)
Posted by: sTevo at February 05, 2011 03:09 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 03:11 PM (waTiq)
The doc said the pets often don't remember people right away after something that traumatic, they brough him out and as soon as he saw me he twisted in the lady's arms and extended both front paws at me with a "help! get me out of here!" look on his face. He landed on my left shoulder and wouldn't let go, even when we got in the car.
After that he always wanted to be on my left shoulder.Great.Now I'm the one tearing up.
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 03:11 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: TexasJew at February 05, 2011 03:11 PM (MyBL2)
Brace yourself:
A few years ago, our kid was riding with our youth pastor on a highway, and he called me hysterical. Someone was throwing tiny kittens out their car window onto the highway, and they were either bouncing, injured off the highway, or being run over. I screamed, "Get off the phone with me and call 911!!"
Then we had a case of a redneck, angry guy in the country who had a beef with his neighbor's dogs. So while the neighbor and her four year old grandson were in the front yard playing with the dogs, the bastard pulled up in his car, called the dogs over, and tossed a little kitten out, which they killed in front of the little boy. The douche was charged with animal cruelty. The grandmother said her little grandson wanted them to take the kitten to the vet "to get it put back together again."
I imagine Satan is warming up the bleachers about now.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 03:11 PM (UOM48)
Ah, crap, now I have to do it.
Posted by: Mama AJ, who just has something in her eye at February 05, 2011 07:08 PM*loud applause from the Moron Herd*
Posted by: MrScribbler©, wanting Nickless released from his prison at February 05, 2011 03:12 PM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 03:12 PM (waTiq)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at February 05, 2011 03:12 PM (B6aeI)
Posted by: Mama AJ at February 05, 2011 07:11 PM (XdlcF)
OMG! How can you NOT adopt a dog named Booger!? Too cute!
Posted by: Tami-unban Nickless (99.174.64.43) at February 05, 2011 03:13 PM (VuLos)
What the hell is wrong with people!
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 07:06 PM (piMMO)
When my daughter was at the vet a few months ago, someone brought in some kittens that had been left in a paper bag in a Wal-Mart parking lot. A car had hit the bag and one kitten was killed. My daughter, of course, took home one of the survivors. Soft touch, she is, like her parents.
Posted by: stuiec at February 05, 2011 03:13 PM (EjyHt)
Great.Now I'm the one tearing up.
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 07:11 PM (piMMO)
Sorry.
Melancholy loves company.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 03:14 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 05, 2011 03:14 PM (c1oyg)
Welcome home,Booger A.J.!
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 03:14 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 03:14 PM (/ebqR)
Posted by: Uncle Jed at February 05, 2011 03:14 PM (vXwmy)
Posted by: Whatever at February 05, 2011 03:15 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 05, 2011 07:11 PM (waTiq)
I hadn't considered that. What's the secret? Get to fessin' up, man!
I do like a good quick pie.
Posted by: ErikW at February 05, 2011 03:17 PM (HpfhQ)
I've had a couple of horses who were as smart and affectionate as any other pets I've owned.
The French eat horse meat.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 03:19 PM (UOM48)
Abused animals are one thing. But as a neighbor once told me, that cats, or specally kittens, use the "wet cat routine".
When I questioned her about it, she stated that cats get wet, and then come crying to your door. At first I didn't believe it, although I've known people who in fact have taken in cats because of that reason.
And then one day I saw it. Pissing down rain, cat just walks into it, stands there for about a minute, then suddenly hauls ass up to someones' apartment door crying like it's just been beaten.
And I'm thinking, you little creep! "Wet cat routine", indeed.
Posted by: HH at February 05, 2011 03:21 PM (6oDXl)
I hadn't considered that. What's the secret? Get to fessin' up, man!
Cook the pizza right on the oven rack, don't put a pan under it. Can get a little messy with cheese dripping off, but much better crust.
Posted by: NC Ref at February 05, 2011 03:21 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 07:04 PM (bxiXv)
That meme is infuriating enough but it happens all the time with even little things. I kept seeing people commenting on how Beck's ratings were plunging. Since that seemed a little too comfortable for Soros I started looking at it. Yeah, there are about a bazillion google hits for that ----started by Media Matters----who led the boycott on Beck esp after his expose on spooky dude. Finally found a site, which I don't remember and would have to find again, that showed the ratings. It's bull. And I don't really give a shit--it's just an example.
That's just a small example, it's everywhere about everything. The left puts out constant propaganda, most of which is just false, some of it just edited or manipulated. The old ones--wmds, iran contra, sandinistas, jesse helms, tet offensive, mccarthy, etc.
It's making me nuts and cynical as hell
Posted by: dagny at February 05, 2011 03:21 PM (6HG/9)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2011 07:11 PM (UOM4
I heard a story from a friend of a friend once, you know, apocryphal, about a POS like that that was a terror in a smallish town. Killed a bunch of pets. Got caught and was basically fined and let go. Did it again in front of a bunch of kids.
Left town suddenly a day later. Didn't leave a forwarding address. Funny enough, left all his stuff behind, too.
Now, I don't want anybody to draw any rash conclusions from this, but I can sure understand how someone like that would be encouraged, vigorously, to leave. And never come back.
Vigorously.
I'm sure it was just a story.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 03:22 PM (bxiXv)
One last animal story to inspire...
A few summers ago some local tots lead a matted, little stray to my doorstep. It was obviously in a bad way, hungry and lonely and appeared to have been discarded for weeks or even months. Where on Earth did this poor little hobo come from? My guess....a farm house had been moved into town a few days prior to the dog wandering the streets, so I figured he'd been holed up in it out on the farm and then made the move with the house.
I took him to a local vet. After a bath and clipping, it was discovered that he was a purebred cocker spaniel. He is still living happily ever after with a senior lady that adopted him.
Even at my lowest moments I have to buck-up, because if kittens and dogs and deer can have the strength and determination to keep going, then so can I.
Posted by: Carolyn at February 05, 2011 03:23 PM (NYjsM)
Posted by: Jake Scott at February 05, 2011 03:26 PM (zVOB7)
It's making me nuts and cynical as hell
Posted by: dagny at February 05, 2011 07:21 PM (6HG/9)
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt, wore it out.
I used to try to understand where people are coming from, sympathize and try to correct the error in thinking. It just almost never works because the error is foundational, if that makes sense.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 03:26 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 05, 2011 03:35 PM (bxiXv)
Jane .... humans think I'm cranky, but, the animals never complain, well not out loud at least!
O/T I enjoy hearing/reading about your son, Jane. Sometimes I speed-read the posting names just for updates ; )
Posted by: Carolyn at February 05, 2011 03:42 PM (NYjsM)
Posted by: sexypig at February 05, 2011 04:11 PM (UmEOs)
Understand I'm not speaking for myself,I'd be on a plane somewhere 365 days a year if I could manage it. But Americans generally don't like being forced to confront the outside world. We have quite a large country of our own and if we find it cramped there's always Canada (America Lite).
Americans want to spend their days working. We like working. We like coming up with crazy plans and turning them into billion dollar businesses. If we're not working we want to hang out with family. We don't like thinking about politics, we're not the French. We don't like having to learn the differences between Shia and Sunni because, quite frankly, we don't give a damn. We just want to work and hang out.
From time to time Americans are forced to recognize the existence of some other piece of the world: Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq. We resent being forced to do so. We didn't really know these places existed, didn't care, and don't wish to be irritated by them because we have work to do.
So we fall back on simple, direct solutions to ease the irritation: nuke 'em all. Nuke 'em all, and then get back to work. It's not that we harbor particular malice toward one country or another, one religion or another. What we harbor is indifference. If you threaten our indifference by forcing us to pay attention to you and your intractable foreign problems we may have to blow something up just so you'll go away. There is, after all, money to be made, and work to be done, and family to be hung out with.
We're busy: don't make us kill you.
I grant that in some cases it's our own government's actions that force us into the position of having to learn where Fallujah is (answer: who cares?) but that doesn't alter our underlying sense that the whole world should just stop bothering us and let us get back to work.
Said by M. TakhallusPosted by: redc1c4 at February 05, 2011 04:38 PM (d1FhN)
Nuke 'em all is our default solution, really? lol bullshit.
Posted by: KG at February 05, 2011 05:03 PM (2k/Dg)
Posted by: Tantor at February 05, 2011 05:08 PM (8zaKP)
“Supporting businesses with this kind of 21st century infrastructure and cutting-edge innovation is our responsibility,” the president said. “Our government has an obligation to make sure that America is the best place on earth to do business — that we have the best schools, the best incentives to innovate and the best infrastructure.”
Dude - I can hear the trains in the distance! They're coming fast!
Has anyone read "Dreams from my Father"? Was there something in there about wanting a train set and not getting it?
Posted by: Penultimatum at February 05, 2011 06:25 PM (FGFdh)
1. Stupid
2. Deliberately trying to wreck the capitalist system
Maybe Fox News could do a poll on this.
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 05, 2011 01:34 PM (8jQbF)
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I don't know why anyone still wonders this. Stupid and evil often go hand in hand.
In fact, I could make the case that being evil is in itself stupid.
Posted by: Alana at February 05, 2011 07:20 PM (/N/wg)
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at February 06, 2011 11:27 AM (vA9ld)
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His whole "plan" is to pick winners, and losers, by Government Fiat.
Crony Capitalism... and Centraly planned Economies... think Mussolini...
I really do not think Obama knows anything about history. Remember that he spent his young years in Indonesia, then his High School years getting High in Hawaii... he does not have a clue as what has worked historicaly, and what has failed.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 05, 2011 08:40 AM (AdK6a)