May 19, 2011
— Ace I'm making up the 10 years part, as I don't know that exactly. It will probably happen sooner than that.
The conventional number on this is the year 2024 -- that's when the system goes bankrupt, based on CBO projections. But as we learned with ObamaCare, the CBO is required by law to assume patently unrealistic scenarios in their projections... making CBO projections chiefly a strong prediction of what won't happen because it can't happen.
When you dump such silly assumptions, Medicare goes bankrupt well early of 2024. Says who?
Says the Board of Trustees of Medicare.
In past reports, and again this year, the Board of Trustees has emphasized the strong likelihood that actual Part B expenditures will exceed the projections under current law due to further legislative action to avoid substantial reductions in the Medicare physician fee schedule. While the Part B projections in this report are reasonable in their portrayal of future costs under current law, they are not reasonable as an indication of actual future costs. Current law would require a physician fee reduction of an estimated 29.4 percent on January 1, 2012—an implausible expectation.
That's the Doc Fix, I think. If suddenly all the past-due cuts in doctors' fees (building up, unexecuted) since 1995 were suddenly put into effect, sure, we could get all the way to 2024... but if we did that, seniors would have a very hard time finding a doctor at all.
Obama calls for across the board cuts in Medicare -- oddly, no one in the media wants to talk about him cutting, on paper, a trillion or more from Medicare.
He is cutting that by fiat, not by any smart mechanism, and he's taking a "meat axe" to the program, as Democrats said of Republicans' proposed automatic percentage-reduction cuts in spending. He's not suggesting any sort of way to get more with less; he's just saying "We're going to spend a trillion less on this. Period."
Now the only way that is typically undertaken is for Medicare to simply reimburse providers less. But Medicare already reimburses providers less. Obama, and the Democrats, and any fan of the current system, are currently voting for even sharper cuts in provider reimbursements.
Good luck getting anything treated when you're simply not able to pay what the market demands.
Without major changes in health care delivery systems, the prices paid by Medicare for health services [under the cuts required in the new law] are very likely to fall increasingly short of the costs of providing these services. By the end of the long-range projection period, Medicare prices for hospital, skilled nursing facility, home health, hospice, ambulatory surgical center, diagnostic laboratory, and many other services would be less than half of their level under the prior law. Medicare prices would be considerably below the current relative level of Medicaid prices, which have already led to access problems for Medicaid enrollees, and far below the levels paid by private health insurance. Well before that point, Congress would have to intervene to prevent the withdrawal of providers from the Medicare market and the severe problems with beneficiary access to care that would result. Overriding the productivity adjustments, as Congress has done repeatedly in the case of physician payment rates, would lead to far higher costs for Medicare in the long range than those projected under current law.
This is simply rationing. And this is, simply, pushing granny off the cliff.
This is what happens when one refuses to address problems. When one keeps putting them off because one don't wish to confront them. The situation builds and builds into true disaster. A disaster that could have been averted at any time, but for one's failure to realistically examine one's situation and act.
More at the link. I just stole the material Yuval Levin quoted.
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or pushing grandma off the cliff.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 19, 2011 02:48 PM (IXLvN)
Nice.
Posted by: speedster1 at May 19, 2011 02:48 PM (yeM7r)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 19, 2011 02:50 PM (IXLvN)
Ryan's plan gives us a way out of this, but if we stick with the status quo via these goofy year-to-year "fixes" it will crash and it will crash hard.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 19, 2011 02:52 PM (7utQ2)
Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2011 02:54 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: RushBabe at May 19, 2011 02:55 PM (Ew27I)
Posted by: Cheri Lynn Herman Daniels at May 19, 2011 02:55 PM (le5qc)
The government is 14 trillion in debt, I think it is safe to say that medicare is already bankrupt and has been so for years.
Posted by: Darth Randall at May 19, 2011 02:56 PM (O/onO)
Posted by: the Charlie Daniels of the torque wrench at May 19, 2011 02:57 PM (le5qc)
Heck, I'd wager that- right up until doctors really do start opting out of Medicare in droves- that first part would be impossible no matter how skilled an orator one is.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 19, 2011 02:58 PM (8y9MW)
He will wait an appropriate time (the media has to gear up with stories about poor grandma not being able to get treatments) and then call out the Republicans for not increasing taxes; thereby pushing Grandma off the cliff.
If Boehner, Ryan & Co. do not get ahead of this we are boned.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at May 19, 2011 02:59 PM (/U/Mr)
Posted by: TexasJew at May 19, 2011 03:00 PM (L8Let)
It's all about trajectory....
Spock explains trajectory...
SPOCK
Doctor, that asteroid is almost as large as your earth's moon. Far enough away, the angle necessary to divert it enough to avoid destruction is minute, but as the asteroid approaches this planet, the angle becomes so great that even the power of a star ship
McCoy
The devil with an asteroid! It won't get here for two months!
SPOCK
If we arrive at the deflection point in time,it may not get here at all.
McCoy
What about Jim?
SPOCK
Once the asteroid has been diverted, we'll resume the search.
McCoy
That may be hours from now. He may be injured or dying.
SPOCK
Doctor, assume this is the planet we're on.
This is the approaching asteroid.
If we don't get to that deflection point in time, it will become physically impossible to divert this asteroid. In that case, everyone on this planet will die, including the captain.
McCoy
Can a few more minutes matter, Spock?
SPOCK
In the time it's taken me to explain the problem, the asteroid has moved from here to here. The longer we delay, the less the likelihood of being able to divert it.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at May 19, 2011 03:00 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 19, 2011 06:52 PM (7utQ2)
I'm starting to warm to the idea. It'll discredit liberalism for generations. A little pain now for a lot of gain later.
Posted by: FUBAR at May 19, 2011 03:01 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at May 19, 2011 03:02 PM (QcFbt)
We're broke. Why burden our kids with paying the interest on this forever?
Posted by: TexasJew at May 19, 2011 06:58 PM (L8Let)
Why should they be any different?
Posted by: FUBAR at May 19, 2011 03:03 PM (1fanL)
In my little Canadian corner of the woods, it literally takes MONTHS to get in to see your primary care physician. There's a walk-in clinic for emergencies but the regular doctors don't like you to go there since they lose out on the eventual visit and the dollars. The primary care physicians also have an 'emergency' area for those with colds, flu, etc that need immediate attention.
My mother's friend, in her 70's took 3 months to see her regular doctor just a few weeks ago. They could have been exagerating but not by much.
On the plus side, Canada will probably see many of the doctors that fled to the US come back over the next decade.
Posted by: Stateless Canadian Infidel at May 19, 2011 03:04 PM (GKQDR)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at May 19, 2011 03:10 PM (QcFbt)
On the plus side, Canada will probably see many of the doctors that fled to the US come back over the next decade.
Posted by: Stateless Canadian Infidel at May 19, 2011 07:04 PM (GKQDR)
Probably not. Americans break the rules if they need to.
Posted by: Confused Sicilian at May 19, 2011 03:13 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: Soona at May 19, 2011 03:15 PM (V0K6Q)
Posted by: B. Hussein Obama at May 19, 2011 03:16 PM (ODJgp)
It's all Bush's Boehner's and Ryan's fault.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at May 19, 2011 03:16 PM (/U/Mr)
Posted by: TexasJew at May 19, 2011 03:19 PM (L8Let)
Tornadoes heading my way.
Posted by: Soona at May 19, 2011 07:12 PM (V0K6Q)
You have two options, either seek shelter immediately in a basement or centrally located room on the first floor or go outside and get some kick ass tornado footage!
Posted by: ErikW at May 19, 2011 03:19 PM (X25GY)
You have two options, either seek shelter immediately in a basement or centrally located room on the first floor or go outside and get some kick ass tornado footage!
Posted by: ErikW at May 19, 2011 07:19 PM (X25GY)
Oh yeah. Thanx.
Posted by: Soona at May 19, 2011 03:23 PM (V0K6Q)
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 19, 2011 07:27 PM (c9Ivb)
Aim your house at Nancy Pelosi.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 19, 2011 03:34 PM (z1N6a)
All of these projections are based on when the "trust fund" runs out of money. What are the assets of the trust funds. Special IOUs from the Treasury. The continued funding of Medicare (and SS, etc) depends on Uncle's *current* ability to tax and borrow real money from the bond market. There is no stash of cash.
We're broke now, running $1.6T deficits. 40 cents of every dollar of federal spending is borrowed.
And funding that $1.6T depends on Helicopter Ben's printing (to the tune of half or so, depending on how you figure). Ben seems to indicate he's going to let QE2 end on schedule, but QE3 will soon start. It will have to do to continue to support the enormous deficits.
Posted by: publius at May 19, 2011 03:36 PM (VVB18)
On the bright side, afterward everything will be in color!
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 19, 2011 07:27 PM (c9Ivb)
*sniff* What would I do without all of the moron support.
Posted by: Soona at May 19, 2011 03:37 PM (V0K6Q)
a) Three weeks for an appointment covered under universal care.
b) Pay $50-$195 to be seen today by an independent general practitioner for diagnosis, tests and medication.
I see a similar system in our future here, should Obamacare not be rescinded. Physicians are already reluctant to take Medicare/Medicaid patients due to reimbursement issues. Will the Feds say that ALL people must be seen? What Doctor with half a brain is going to be willing to continue to practice medicine under these circumstances, to not have the freedom to choose how to operate their chosen business?
Posted by: Museisluse at May 19, 2011 03:38 PM (a8aqn)
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at May 19, 2011 04:22 PM (0fzsA)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 19, 2011 04:28 PM (bxiXv)
Sounds like a plan, comrade.
Posted by: toby928™ at May 19, 2011 04:30 PM (GTbGH)
What I REALLY detest is that I cannot bail out of Mediscare and rely just on my medical insurance. If I do that I lose my Social Security benefits. "Ve haf vays to make you comply peasant!" The other "benefit" of Mediscare is that doctors are now constrained to Mediscare limits for seniors regardless of what coverage the patient has.
I am so sick of these arrogant assholes in D.C. Bring on the pitchforks and torches. It's time to storm the castle.
Posted by: chuck in st paul at May 20, 2011 04:24 AM (EhYdw)
Posted by: SDN at May 20, 2011 06:06 AM (b0LKF)
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at May 20, 2011 06:47 AM (vA9ld)
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Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 19, 2011 02:45 PM (IXLvN)