Posted by: Captain Hate at June 14, 2011 07:39 AM (conHb)

I did not have sex with that organization..the job's council.

AND ANOTHER THING!

I get tired of seeing Jack Welch pontificate on how wonderful he is and how knowledgeable he is and how people should listen to him.

Neutron Jack.  The buildings are still there, but the people are gone.  GE has become the paradigm for late 20th century/early 21st century Crony Capitalism.

They take over small to medium sized successful companies and run them into the ground by driving out the old-time employees that know the customers and products and promote younger, cheaper people that are being fast - tracked to "management" (which is all they really care about), while customer service goes into the toilet.  They have done this to numerous companies in the last ten year that I know of.

So fuck that Welch guy and Immelt, too.  GE should be broken up in to a lot of parts and the Top Management should be exiled to Boogerglob, Yugoslavia.  (I know, Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore- it's a JOKE!)

Posted by: ParisParamusInBrooklyn

Oh, there is nothing deceptive about it - it's just depraved.  I presently work for a very large  "French" corporation, and the ridiculous business-political antics they go through are hilarious.

Posted by: Vic at June 14, 2011 08:15 AM (M9Ie6)

Thought we already had a name for this--the Chicago Way!

Posted by: Case at June 14, 2011 08:19 AM (0K+Kw)

we need a president who understands that if government would just get out of business' way, and turn the economy loose, a lot of our problems would solve themselves

you can't keep taking money out of the economy in taxes- that money has a way of disappearing down a hole in Washington DC

_{LIFE LIBERTY PROPERTY}

> I've never understood why people use the term crony capitalism when what they are talking about is fascism.

they read it on Daily Kos, and feel it makes them sound smart

Posted by: Speaker Cryin John at June 14, 2011 08:24 AM (fsJbX)

You may not like Romneycare--I'm not sure I do--but it's nothing more than an extra income tax that eliminates healthcare welfare--DEAL WITH IT.

you can't keep taking money out of the economy in taxes- that money has a way of disappearing down a hole in Washington DC

_{LIFE LIBERTY PROPERTY}

Posted by: Jones at June 14, 2011 08:43 AM (8sCoq)

Governmanagement can only skim a percentage from the funds that pass through its hands and use it to feather its own nest.  It is absolutely useless except as a formal mechanism for redistribution of wealth.

Private business management is also mostly useless, but at least (for small enough to fail industries) they are accountable and if they screw up the bottom line enough they go bankrupt and/or lose their jobs.

More training for government jobs--that's the way to go.

Posted by: Pecos Bill at June 14, 2011 08:58 AM (j84s0)

Indeed.  Almost as much as that useless f*ck Crosby and his "zero defects" mantra.  Six Sigma has led to more BS number-cooking than can be imagined.  Sadly, to keep my career going, I have to pretend to drink that cool aid. 

Central Planning , crony capitalism and socialsim are forms of corrutpion.

MIAMI, Fla. -- A low-dollar fundraiser here Monday felt like a throwback to the 2008 campaign.

There was the same old soundtrack – including "City of Blinding Lights" by U2, the president’s 2008 anthem -- the enthusiastic organizers and the abundant appeals for supporters to rally behind President Obama.

The one missing element? Overflowing crowds.

Granted, it was a fundraiser, not a free rally. But the empty seats were hard to miss.

The top level of the 2,200-seat concert hall at the Adrienne Arsht Center for Performing Arts was entirely empty, as were the seats along the side of the second and third levels.

"The expectation was 900," a Democratic official said, and more than 980 tickets were sold.

Empty seats are racist

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 14, 2011 09:06 AM (1Jaio)

But they will be EEOC engineers, so the plan is still working.

EoJ

As a former QC engineer for an Aerospace company, I have to say SPC is quite valuable when used by people who understand it. It has been my experience that company management wants to hear that "out of control" processes are a people problem, not that they are going to have to spend 6 million dollars to replace their worn out junk machinery which is incapable of maintaining control within +/- 3 sigma, much less 6.

QP4 in the Air Farce

Get all the tech workers to rewrite and correct the repair procedures and then have the line supervisor pull out the rewrite and insert the original procedure.

Pass out bonus to line supervisor.

Fore!

Two guys watching a F111 taking off at the old McClellan AFB

1st guy: After all we do to those aircraft it's a miracle they can still fly.

2nd guy:

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 14, 2011 09:24 AM (tf9Ne)

Exactly.

The evil Republicans aren't just going to throw grandma over the cliff!

Hmmmm...

Having any panel chaired by the Chairman of GE... who through crony relationships and 'special' deals managed to pay NO Fed Business taxes last year?

Yeah... thats full of Tigers Blood... I mean... win man..

June 14 (Bloomberg) -- Sales at retailers fell less than forecast in May, showing American consumers were overcoming elevated gasoline costs.

The 0.2 percent decrease followed a 0.3 percent April gain that was smaller than previously estimated, Commerce Department figures showed today in Washington.

Oh Yeah!!! The decline is less than estimate!!! We are out of the ditch!! No bumps in the road!!! The golden age is here!!!

Posted by: chemjeff at June 14, 2011 07:58 AM (PPoON)

I would buy a Ford, they did not take any bailout money EVAH!,

Government suing a state bacuse a company wants to locate there: SOCIALISM.

Government forcing out a CEO and the taking control of the stock: SOCIALISM

Government

The 0.2 percent decrease followed a 0.3 percent April gain that was smaller than previously estimated

Certainly forecasts of rising Chocolate Rations can't be far behind, Comrade!

My next car will be a Ford.  Hopefully, most of it will be built in the USA.

Thought I was buying American when I bought my Chrysler, but later found out it was built in Mexico.

did it come with a free kilo hidden in the manifold?

REFUGIO, Texas (AP) — Investigators said a man has died while in the act of raping an elderly South Texas woman.

The Refugio County Sheriff's Office identified the man as 53-year-old Isabel Chavelo Gutierrez. Sheriff's Sgt. Gary Wright said the incident happened June 2 after he rode two miles by bicycle from his home to that of his 77-year-old victim in the tiny coastal community of Tivoli.

Wright said the 5'-7", 230-to-250 pound man sneaked into the woman's house and raped her at knifepoint.

During the assault, he said he wasn't feeling well, rolled over, and died.

Gutierrez' body was sent to the Nueces County medical examiner in Corpus Christi for autopsy.

Gutierrez was a registered sexual offender on parole from a sentence for aggravated sexual assault and indecency with a child.

I think I remember reading something by Mises on the income tax that is relevant to this topic

(this is from memory, so not entirely accurate)

There are three groups of people who support the income tax, one was politicians, one was socialist minded academics, and the third was the extremely wealthy business owners, who having already acheived their success wanted to prevent competition and dump the increasing costs of employing people onto the government(healthcare, pensions, etc)

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 14, 2011 09:52 AM (lbo6/)

Statistics are difficult to apply to subjective characteristics. It is much better suited to repetitive processes that have a set of specifications to adhere to. I know the consultents disagree, but a machine is much less likely than a person to have a hangover and tell you to get boned.

There are three groups of people who support the income tax, one was politicians, one was socialist minded academics, and the third was the extremely wealthy business owners, who having already acheived their success wanted to prevent competition and dump the increasing costs of employing people onto the government(healthcare, pensions, etc)

Posted by: Ben at June 14, 2011 09:57 AM (wuv1c)

Also, explains the H1B visa program, making stock options plans onerous to administer, accounting rules that make any initiative publishable, open borders and AA

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 14, 2011 09:31 AM (i6RpT)

What could he say? It was amazing. 

One of the Colonel's sons was busted by the AP's smoking dope behind the shops. He lost his job...no jail time.

A couple of the precious metal platers used their secured plating facility to set up a crank lab. They got twenty years to think about it. (this was late 1980's).

Some moron dropped an oxygen bottle into a pit. Of course it didn't have a cap on it. It ended up in the parking lot.

fun times...on Uncle Sam's dime.

I have an American Express Card and I regret it. I try not to use it.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 14, 2011 10:05 AM (vL0Nv)

JEF can quit. We can try out Sheriff Joe!

Posted by: chemjeff at June 14, 2011 10:07 AM (PPoON)

Your credit score will take a hit if you do. 

And WTF is up with being on parole after sexual assault of a child?

  Early release from existence would be more appropriate.

Your credit score will take a hit if you do. 

Who cares?  

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama says the notion that he's too calm or unemotional about people's economic hardship is "nonsense."

Obama says he'll ultimately be judged on his performance, including whether he's helped small business get access to capital or helped community colleges provide the right job training.

If he's judged on his performance the bastard will be out of a job in 2013. And how is it the job of the president to get companies capital or job training at community colleges?

Who cares?  

Posted by: garrett at June 14, 2011 10:13 AM (x5W3N)

Not you I guess.

Obama says he'll ultimately be judged on his performance, including whether he's helped small business get access to capital or helped community colleges provide the right job training.

So he'll be as effective as the average volunteer at the information counter in the County Courthouse?

Awwww.  IsnÂ’t that sweet?  Barry says his daughters are totally down with him completing his job of utter destruction of America.

132 - Garrett - those scores at looked at by potential employers, and are also used to calculate insurance premiums.  Even when opening a bank account, or trying to rent an apartment.

Also, landlords often do credit checks if you're renting. If you have a low score they may ask for twice the security deposit they normally do.

I hate the way the credit system is rigged, but unforutnately we all have to play the game.

I don't understand how canceling a creditcard can be bad for your credit, but for whatever reason they powers that be have decided that it is.

For businesses that cater to clientele that will take their business elsewhere if you don't accept Amex, you can't afford NOT to accept it.

So every customer has to subsidize their fees through higher prices, or get rid of Amex.

I was always under the impression that Amex was best for international travel.

Also, i've always thought that merchants should put up signs in their store that say if you pay cash you get a 1% discount or whatever half of the rate charged by the Credit card company.

So if Visa charges 2% then you offer a 1% discount for cash purchased.

Garrett - those scores at looked at by potential employers, and are also used to calculate insurance premiums.  Even when opening a bank account, or trying to rent an apartment.

People act as though all of this this is mechanistic, though...and it is for Insurance Premiums and Loans. 

The other examples are non issues.  Employers?, Renters? 

 You have to be pretty pathetic to be judged ineligible by your Credit Score, alone...

perhaps living in rural america has colored my impression of this.  I have found that a modicum of exposition does wonders when the question of the actual Credit Score comes into play.   

I don't understand how canceling a creditcard can be bad for your credit, but for whatever reason they powers that be have decided that it is.

Posted by: Ben at June 14, 2011 10:25 AM (wuv1c)

Because your available credit decreases which lowers your credit score.  Outstanding debt to available credit ratio increases.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 14, 2011 09:49 AM (lbo6/)

Actually, I was directed to your pic last night from one of the ladies here who emailed me with the subject line "Bwa-Ha-Ha..check out the douchebag"

..that's verbatim

True story

26 Thought we already had a name for this--the Chicago Way!

Last week here on AoSHQ there was a link to the WSJ, detailing exactly what the CW really means.  Income taxes were raised in Illinois (retroactively!!!) back in January.  So far, the increase in the corporate tax increase has brought in an additional $300 million.

BUT, the greedy slobs who run Illinois have, in that same time period, given away $250 million to big corporations that have threatened to move out of the state, and take their jobs with them.

So not even six months into the new, higher tax regime, and the Chicago Way is exposed for all to see.  If you are a little guy, a nobody, you get stomped on and your wallet stolen so that the big guys can take your stuff.

I was always under the impression that Amex was best for international travel.

Posted by: Ben at June 14, 2011 10:30 AM (wuv1c)

The first time I went to France I thought I'd be smart and take advantage of Triple-A's free American Express traveler's checks for members and get them in franc denominations.  Trouble was most places didn't know WTF they were.  Most of 'em took Visa though....

Because your available credit decreases which lowers your credit score.  Outstanding debt to available credit ratio increases.

Really?

So if I have 2 credit cards with 4,000 dollar limits and I close one, then have the remaining credit card's limit moved to 8,000 dollars, my credit score wouldn't be effected?

Because my credit and debt ratio would remain the same would it not?

Because your available credit decreases which lowers your credit score.  Outstanding debt to available credit ratio increases.

So, ask for those Credit Line Increases and watch your scores go up!

So if I have 2 credit cards with 4,000 dollar limits and I close one, then have the remaining credit card's limit moved to 8,000 dollars, my credit score wouldn't be effected?

Because my credit and debt ratio would remain the same would it not?

Posted by: Ben at June 14, 2011 10:37 AM (wuv1c)

Well yeah....but you threw in upping the remaining CC's limit to equal the original available credit. 

  Outstanding debt to available credit ratio increases.

...of course, you could also try paying off some outstanding debt to make up the difference.

...of course, you could also try paying off some outstanding debt to make up the difference.

Posted by: garrett at June 14, 2011 10:42 AM (x5W3N)

Or having no debt...

Posted by: Tami at June 14, 2011 10:40 AM (X6akg)

Oh, I was jsut pointing out how the structure of the Credit Score game is rigged to take advantage of the american consumer.

...and by american consumer, I mean 'Person of Wal-Mart'.

Or having no debt...

I am this close to realizing the dream.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 14, 2011 10:42 AM (PPoON)

Teh AWESOME HASH! Chemjeff

Joe Scarborough,  Â“Holy cripes!  IÂ’m as creepy as the rest of the MFM assholes!”

Creepier, Joe.  Way creepier.

No matter how impressive your resume, or how good your "expositon," (which employers know is 90% bullshit,) the credit score is a "fact" that is very telling.

If you can't overcome your credit score with a personal interview, your credit score is not the problem.

147: Ben in my state it is illegal to charge different prices to different customers for the same product and the lawyers have stretched that to mean businesses cannot offer discounts for cash payment. OTOH most chains can offer a discount for 'club members' by signing up and letting them track your buying habits by swiping their card with every purchase. Its almost as archaic as the water laws.

Really?  What state?

I worked at a few jobs in highschool and college where the owners would give discounts for cash purchases, but i don't think they advertised it. Maybe they weren't following the letter of the law.

It's insane all the regulations on business. I'd be willing to bet it we got rid of 50% of restrictions on business, that we'd be back to 5% unemployment in one or two years.   The states keep making it harder and harder to make money and employ people and then they yell at us and blame us for not making more money and employing more people.

Thanks EoJ, I'll check that out. I've never really looking into FICO scores and the like because I've been fortunate to not have debt problems.

Well yeah....but you threw in upping the remaining CC's limit to equal the original available credit. 

No i realize that, but it didn't occur to me until just now I could do that.

I thought you got penalized for cancelling a card simply because you cancelled a card.

I didn't realize it was based on some rational reason about a debt to credit ratio.

135 -

I work with one vendor who offers a 3% reduction if you write a check. I guess they would rather give it back to me than pay the credit card fees.

Also funny-- there's anther local business I know of (a restaurant) and they accept cash and local checks only. This restaurant is run by a pack of left-wing democrats.

It's insane all the regulations on business. I'd be willing to bet it we got rid of 50% of restrictions on business, that we'd be back to 5% unemployment in one or two years.   The states keep making it harder and harder to make money and employ people and then they yell at us and blame us for not making more money and employing more people.

Also funny-- there's anther local business I know of (a restaurant) and they accept cash and local checks only. This restaurant is run by a pack of left-wing democrats.

Yeah, there are a lot of restuarants in the area here that are cash only establishments.

Also funny-- there's anther local business I know of (a restaurant) and they accept cash and local checks only. This restaurant is run by a pack of left-wing democrats.

 you are such a charmer, you'll do just great even with a negative credit score.  Go ahead and screw it up. 

Seriously?  

lan sing...lansing.  Michigan.   Methinks I see the problem.

My first thought - guess they are trying to avoid the fee. My second (and much more cynical) thought........I wonder how much I can launder before I trigger an IRS audit.

exactly. Most cash only places, at least in my area, tend to use hand written receipts, not computer generated ones.

So i'm guessing they report having less income than they actually do and there is not way to disprove it.

I'm willing to bet they write off a lot of their unreported sales as spoilage and write it off

Also funny-- there's anther local business I know of (a restaurant) and they accept cash and local checks only. This restaurant is run by a pack of left-wing democrats.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at June 14, 2011 11:01 AM (0fzsA)

If you leave a large enough "tip" do they slip a bag of weed into your doggie-bag?

not even close. You fell for it -

Oooh, ya' got me! 

My intertubes, they burn for the blushing...

Posted by: toby928™ at June 14, 2011 11:09 AM (GTbGH)

Duke Nukem

Great news!!!  ThereÂ’s a one percent chance weÂ’re not boned!

Great news!!!  ThereÂ’s a one percent chance weÂ’re not boned!

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 14, 2011 11:11 AM (jx2j9)

That's all I need, I'm all converting all my gold to stock on NASDAQ!

Posted by: toby928™ at June 14, 2011 11:19 AM (GTbGH)

It was way oversold, correcting back up...

I can't take on second more of the Caey Anthony story...it's a fucking casualty vampire orgy.

June 14 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama today makes the first official presidential stop in Puerto Rico in a half- century with a message aimed more at an audience on the U.S. mainland.

“It’s almost a coming-out party on the growing importance of Puerto Ricans and the Puerto Rican population in the United States,” said Dario Moreno, professor of political science at Florida International University in Miami. “I think the visit will certainly help Obama in Florida.”

With the U.S. recovery still unsteady and a jobless rate forecast by the administration to be an average of 8.6 percent in 2012, the Republican candidates vying for the partyÂ’s nomination are making ObamaÂ’s stewardship of the economy a main theme of their campaigns. Obama is girding for a close election contest, and Hispanic voters may provide crucial support in winning the electoral votes of states that are narrowly divided.

Judge him on his performance and political pandering

Posted by: toby928™ at June 14, 2011 11:22 AM (GTbGH)

I was speaking about the short-term trend. Yes, it is over-bought but investors very rarely dump everything at once. It will sell-off then panic-buy, sell-off then panic-buy until it reaches a bottom.

I can't take on second more of the Caey Anthony story...it's a fucking casualty vampire orgy.

I don't get it. Why has it been a story for 3 years? CNNHN only plays Casey Anthony related stories for the past few years.

Is there something special about the case? I mean its sad that a mother murdered her daughter, but that happens almost every day in this country(and other countries).

Why is this one such a big deal?

fascism with a friendly face?

Who is working on this?

Top men!

go government

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 14, 2011 11:29 AM (eOXTH)

My good lady, I understand the common people. Why yesterday I had a 2-minute conversation with my gardener when the gate to the compound was stuck. Nice man, Ernesto or Juan or Miguel, one of those names...

If you have a brand new Escalade towing your boat, the IRS might not believe that you only cleared $40,000.

That's why you buy it used.  With cash. 

Then register and dock the boat in Rhode Island.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 14, 2011 11:33 AM (GTbGH)

Bingo!

Why is this one such a big deal?

The Corpse of a young white girl is too irresistible for the likes of Geraldo, Greta, Nancy Grace and the rest of them. 

Playing 'find the corpse' is how they get warmed up for the courtroom drama.

It's disgusting.

Posted by: Vic at June 14, 2011 11:31 AM (M9Ie6)

I'm not so sure about that.  My bank card, debit/credit, only offers reward points if I use it as a credit card, which I assume means they get higher fees from the merchants on credit than on a debit transaction. 

I have noticed that sometimes the tip I leave on the bill is not included in the amount debited from my acct.  I assume the restaurant pays the server out of cash for the tip to avoid higher fees.

The Corpse of a young white girl is too irresistible for the likes of Geraldo, Greta, Nancy Grace and the rest of them. 

Playing 'find the corpse' is how they get warmed up for the courtroom drama.

It's disgusting.

I understand that, but why this case?

This happens all the time. Why have they latched on and spent two years talking about this specific case on a daily basis?

What is the appeal in this specific instance?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 14, 2011 11:35 AM (eOXTH)

We'll be talking Capri's before you know it.

Another Republican throws his hat into the ring:

What is the appeal in this specific instance?

the Milf factor?

Another Republican throws his hat into the ring:

Former Utah Gov. Huntsman will announce he's running for president next week, sources tell AP

The only guy I wouldn't vote for. Fortunately, I think his chances of winning the nomination are about the same as Santorum's.

I understand that, but why this case?

This happens all the time. Why have they latched on and spent two years talking about this specific case on a daily basis?

What is the appeal in this specific instance?

Posted by: Ben at June 14, 2011 11:40 AM (wuv1c)

I don't want to go all Fox Mulder on this, but I think the Anthony case may be the "shiny penny" that the MSM has been using to (try to) divert attention from how horribly inept the Obama administration has been.

Great sidebar article about Obamacare echoing Atlas Shrugged.

Yeah, I just reread the book last month, it's pretty scary how accurate Rand was in many ways.

In the past few months I put up one written by a doctor who used an excerpt from AS to make a point about what kind of Doctor's Obamacare will produce.

Casey Anthony is hot. shame she's a nutter.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 14, 2011 11:53 AM

EoJ, THIS is why we love you. In a manly, non-ghey way.  lol

EoJ, THIS is why we love you. In a manly, non-ghey way.  lol

Posted by: todler at June 14, 2011 11:56 AM (fPOY0)

Thing is...Jeffy would love it if you loved him in the other way

Standard fare for WI Dems, it seems.

No new thread yet?  *pout*

Anyhoo, this is quite an interesting article that has nothing whatsoever to do with Obama's Jobs Council, but DOES have everything to do with violence, and I know that will appeal to the M&Ms.  It's a great indictment of stupidity and the problem of living a sheltered life, as evidenced by the Slutwalks and the Libya conflict, and it expresses quite clearly what I've never been able to articulate.

Violence Always Escalates

"...Another problem is that you may engage in violence only to find that your opponent has a much higher threshold for it than you do. But even if he doesnÂ’t itÂ’s very easy to find yourself in a situation in which everyone wouldÂ’ve been much better off if youÂ’d just avoided the fight altogether..."

(H/T Five Feet of Fury)

Posted by: Jean at June 14, 2011 12:17 PM (WkuV6)

Not a cash tip....a tip written in on the bill.

This thread is seven greased weasels fighting in a bag of cat shit crazy.

I am a not a fucking Weasel!

Posted by: Obama at June 14, 2011 12:31 PM (sqkOB)

First one is up.

In any case, these guys are responsible for QE2 and the philosophy behind it: the thought that businesses are holding back on hiring and expansion because there's not enough money in the system. That's just ignorant.

The reason businesses are holding back is uncertainty and the fear of how expensive the Government Health Insurance Takeover Act will be.

#36

More specifically, AmEx Optima account...I ran hundreds of thousands through the gold card and the optima platinum over the years...Never late!